6L90 Torque Converter Install in an 6L80 Transmission - Silverado Sierra Tahoe Suburban Yukon

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  • In this video we show how to install a 6L90 torque converter in the 6L80 transmission in my 2014 Silverado.
    The 6L90 torque converter was used in some 5th gen ZL1 Camaros and some CTS-Vs.
    I made this swap because of the well documented issues with the 6L80 torque converters failing, and damaging the transmission by clogging the pump with debris.
    We did locate the following article which indicates that the 6L90 torque converters may be prone to the same issue but we will see how this one holds up over time.
    www.sonnax.com/tech_resources...
    The 6L80 transmission is used across the lineup of GM vehicles including but not limited to: Chevy
    SS, Silverado, Tahoe, Suburban, Yukon, Sierra, and more.
    NOTE: you will need to add additional fluid once the torque converter is installed.
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    ⚠️Try anything shown in this video at your own risk ⚠️
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    Associated Videos - AFM DOD Delete Series
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    See how to Unbolt the Torque Converter from the Flex Plate Here and disconnect the transmission from the bell housing here:
    DOD Delete Engine Removal: • AFM DOD Delete Part 3 ...
    See how to properly torque the torque converter and transmission here:
    Reinstalling Engine: • AFM DOD Delete Part 6 ...
    If the transmission is stuck to your motor, watch this video:
    • Transmission Stuck to ...
    Full DOD delete series below:
    Part 1 - Baseline Dyno: • AFM Delete Part 1 - Wh...
    Part 2 - What Parts Do You Need • AFM DOD Delete Part 2 ...
    Part 3 - Engine Removal: • AFM DOD Delete Part 3 ...
    Part 4 - Engine TearDown: • AFM DOD Delete Part 4 ...
    Part 5 - Installing New Parts: • AFM DOD Delete Part 5 ...
    5A - Cam Phaser Install: • AFM DOD Delete - How t...
    5B - Trunnion Upgrade: • How To Upgrade GM Trun...
    5C - Lashing HP Fuel Pump: • How To Properly Lash H...
    5D - Injector Seals • High Pressure Fuel Inj...
    Part 6 - Reinstalling Engine: • AFM DOD Delete Part 6 ...
    Part 7 - Tuning and Dyno Run:
    Part 8 - Installing Intake Manifold, TB, and Air Intake:
    Part 9 - Tuning and Final Dyno Run:
    Epilogue AFM/Delete Gone Wrong :
    Terrible Noises: • Terrible Engine Noises...
    Time for a New Motor: • DOD / AFM Delete Gone ...
    GPI Saves the Day: • AFM Delete GONE WRONG ...
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  • @silversled123
    @silversled123 3 роки тому +9

    Really nice to see you guys getting the truck back together after all this time.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 роки тому

      Getting there! Definitely took a lot longer than planned

  • @mattyamaha27
    @mattyamaha27 Рік тому +9

    Your DOD delete video series and other videos related to that truck have helped greatly. Thank you for taking time to make helpful content

  • @D2O2
    @D2O2 3 роки тому +11

    Confirmed! My TCC failed with 108k on the clock in my '17. Went with a reman trans. It is my belief that the AFM operation makes the TCC work much harder and thus reduces its already short life.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 роки тому

      Seems like I got mine swapped out just in time!

    • @javiersernan9310
      @javiersernan9310 2 роки тому +2

      You should have replaced the Front Seal as well!

    • @ronwilson5476
      @ronwilson5476 15 днів тому

      I believe that as well. Also contributes to the known cylinder misfire due to stuck lifter issue. I bought a $60 device to plug in the OBD port that disables the AFM and man does it ever respond better.

  • @GorolGronu
    @GorolGronu 3 роки тому +9

    Love your videos man. I plan to do the same DOD/AFM delete to my truck by following along your videos. Definitely going to look into a torque converter swap now too

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 роки тому +1

      Awesome! Glad they have been helpful!!

    • @russellschroeder990
      @russellschroeder990 2 роки тому +2

      After seeing this video me too. I’m pulling my 5.3 in a few months and I will definitely be replacing that torque converter while the motor is out.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  2 роки тому +1

      Definitely a good idea. If you want even stronger, go with a billet converter.

    • @jaredgreen2235
      @jaredgreen2235 2 роки тому

      @@TheSundaeDrive where did you get the converter

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  2 роки тому

      I have a link in the description but I got it through my local dealership

  • @danielrankin4906
    @danielrankin4906 8 місяців тому +4

    Thank u for the video. About to do my first converter change. Went out at about 160k miles. Gonna use the amsoil as well.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  8 місяців тому

      Glad it helped! Good luck with the swap

  • @trinitygraphics1824
    @trinitygraphics1824 Рік тому +6

    Great video. I had that same issue of transmission shudder in my 2017 Sierra at 30K miles. The dealer replaced the fluid. It happened again at 57K miles and this time they replaced the torque converter. I was glad I purchased the 100K power train warranty when I bought the truck, I have 10 months left on it!

    • @420_Logan
      @420_Logan 11 місяців тому

      lol this comment was exactly 10 months ago. Hopefully you are having no issues

  • @mlriggins
    @mlriggins 3 роки тому +34

    Great video and information. My TC failed at 82K miles and shredded my transmission. Fortunately for me my 2014 was still under its 100k mile powertrain warranty so I had it repaired for free though it took two and a half weeks. My transmission was so trashed I actually got a new one and not a reman. I also got the upgraded TC installed as well at no cost to me.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 роки тому +7

      Always nice when the warranty comes through!

    • @andresneira9745
      @andresneira9745 3 роки тому +1

      Which truck have 6l90 or every truck have 6l80. Thank you

    • @utrocker7
      @utrocker7 2 роки тому +2

      im at 113K miles on my 2016 Sierra and i think my TC and tans are toast, I was able to get a trans off a 2018 silverado LT with 5K miles on it (same 6L80 trans). The truck was totaled but trans still good. planning on doing the swap in a week. my questions are: do you think any programming/relearn is required for the whole trans swap? secondly, while its down should i upgrade the torque converter or just use the OEM?

    • @mlriggins
      @mlriggins 2 роки тому +1

      @@utrocker7 I would definitely upgrade the TC. That's what caused my trans to fail. As for the programming, my guess is it will need to be reprogrammed or at least a relearn for sure.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  2 роки тому +1

      I agree with Michael

  • @DeathrashWhiplash
    @DeathrashWhiplash 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent video sir, very valuable footage to have access to.

  • @millibarman
    @millibarman Рік тому +4

    Great video! Thanks for this solution. My 6L80 blew at 138,000. Thanks GM 👊

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Рік тому

      That stinks 😔

    • @shootpse88
      @shootpse88 Рік тому

      My 6l90 in a 2017 2500 grenaded at 80k,cost me 5800 for a complete new tranny

    • @jwhmerica504
      @jwhmerica504 Місяць тому

      I’m at 150k on the stock trans. 😬

  • @donaldhenderson3495
    @donaldhenderson3495 Рік тому

    Thanks Cliff, this is great information to know.

  • @FloridaFrank2010
    @FloridaFrank2010 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for this video - have a 6L90E in mine, but mileage is quite low so far.
    Am surprised you didn't change out the front main seal of the transmission - it's right there, and super cheap and convenient at that stage =)

    • @OscyJack-
      @OscyJack- 10 місяців тому

      Generally you don't mess with rear mains unless they're leaking. Better off keeping it sealed because it's hard to get a good seal replacing it.
      We do that with Allison builds. If the rear main is good, it stays

    • @imapcfreak
      @imapcfreak 10 місяців тому

      @TheSundaeDrive what do you think?

  • @domeniccaruso2528
    @domeniccaruso2528 Рік тому +2

    Awesome video I wish I’ve seen this a few months back bc my trans took a shit

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Рік тому

      Glad to help! Hopefully it will help prevent another failure for you!

  • @FormulaBoat
    @FormulaBoat Рік тому +5

    The ZL1 converter has a dual disc lockup clutch, and should have a slightly higher stall speed. Pop a new seal in the front of your trans since you are there! Pack the seal lip with grease, apply some lube to the torque converter shaft OD, and let er' rip. Thanks for the vid.

  • @imapcfreak
    @imapcfreak 10 місяців тому +1

    @The Sundae Drive, thank you very much for this & your other instructional videos, very helpful!! I have a 6L80 transmission in my 2010 Chevy Avalanche 5.3L, but my TC hasn't failed yet (~130K). Questions: 1) Do you know how much of a different a billet makes - and is your answer based on what you're driving/towing, or overall longevity? 2) RockAuto suggests for me: TC Remfg. B85JMBX (Standard), HDB85JMBX (Heavy-Duty Billet), or B85JMBXF (Flanged Hub). I was considering one of those, but after referring to your 6L80/6L90 article, sounds like I probably shouldn't consider those for replacements? 3) I saw another guy suggests getting a L6-80 (made for Corvette C5) - did you ever look into that? (I'm basically wondering what sold you on the GM 6L90 (24242552)? Thanks!!

  • @iancoleman4697
    @iancoleman4697 Рік тому +4

    I got 195,099 miles out of mine. But it went full self destruct within 15 miles…. Started to feel a little bit of a slip.. then started up a pretty good grade and it literally started screaming, and I lost all but 1 st gear. Luckily I was only a few miles from home and limped into the driveway… replacing it with an updated L6-80 C-5… apparently this is a better option for replacement.

    • @imapcfreak
      @imapcfreak 10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the info - what brand of TC did you get for your L6-80/C5? If you could post the link, that would be awesome. Thx!

  • @boobaboopi8414
    @boobaboopi8414 7 місяців тому +4

    These models gm trucks have these common problem of torque converter getting shot. They have a design flaw for the torque converter. Our 2018 chevy silverado torque converter went out at 120k miles. We chose to rebuilt it. The transmission specialist shop replaced it with an aftermarket redesigned torque convertor and also installed a separate cooler just for the transmission to extend the life of the tranny because these gm models also have these problem of overheating tranny fluid. Hopefully this fixes the problem. Listen to Scotty Kilmer and get a Toyota. Our 2006 Toyota camry has 370k miles with the original engine and tranny.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  7 місяців тому +1

      They definitely don't make them like they used to. Do you know what tc the shop installed?

    • @boobaboopi8414
      @boobaboopi8414 7 місяців тому +1

      @@TheSundaeDrive Yea and I don't know which TC they installed.

  • @mattorta
    @mattorta Рік тому +4

    My 6L90 TQ from a 2017 Silverado HD 6.0, lasted 75,000 miles. I hope your upgrade last longer than mine did.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Рік тому +2

      Good to know that it failed that early. I am planning to swap to a billet converter around 200K miles which would be around 92K miles total. Sitting at 136K roughly right now but maybe I will change it earlier.

    • @shootpse88
      @shootpse88 Рік тому

      My TC in 2017 2500 with 80k grenaded the tranny dropped 5800 for new trans

  • @bigredracer7848
    @bigredracer7848 3 роки тому +1

    147👍's up thanks again for taking us all along with you
    how much torque and horsepower is lost going through the 4L80E transfer case in 410 truck rear end before the power gets to the ground that is a growing question I'd like to know

  • @jordanv5400
    @jordanv5400 Рік тому +4

    great video, do you know what the difference in the stall speeds are between the 2?

  • @michaelforeman6386
    @michaelforeman6386 3 роки тому +2

    My torque coverter failed right after you did this video and destroyed my transmission ☹️. Cost me $5k for a reman. My truck is at 163k miles though.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 роки тому +1

      Aww man, that stinks. You made it pretty far on the stock one atleast. Seems like it should almost be standard 100K mile maintenance item

  • @yogisingh2504
    @yogisingh2504 3 роки тому +21

    The common problem with these transmission is the failure of the main pressure regulator valve in the pump, which drops the line pressure on these unit. In the early model the output shaft had a design where it also cleaned the fluids by catching debris with centrifugal force as you drove the vehicle around. Early unit use to go up to 200k miles with very little service. Then gm change the design of the out put shaft and more metal shaving (practical's) from the planetary sets started to float around in the fluid. So it is paramount to change the fluid on these units every 25 to 30k miles. Changing fluids on these units will help prolong the life of these tranny. Please do a complete transmission fluid service as you are installing a brand new Converter. Hope this helps and most likely you have done the oil change on it.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 роки тому +2

      Frequent fluid and filter changes are a must for sure! I plan to service it every 30K miles as you suggested 👍

    • @davidouradnik7925
      @davidouradnik7925 11 місяців тому

      Would a pump pressure regulator not throw a code and a dash light? I have the shudder but no codes whatsoever.

    • @yogisingh2504
      @yogisingh2504 11 місяців тому +1

      @@davidouradnik7925 No it does not set a code for a worn pressure regulator valve. Most of the time it will pick up a clutch pack is slipping code or solonied performance.

  • @kennithlibby
    @kennithlibby Місяць тому

    my truck is at 180k still no failures knock on wood, 2014 5.3 420hp with tune and running e 85- just did a transmission fluid change and didn't see any metal on the magnet really. looked pretty clean compared to what iv seen. but looking into maybe changing the converter while everything is still working as it should

  • @vikkleo
    @vikkleo 2 роки тому +1

    Have seen the the stl010 Sure-Cool bypass just installed mine keeps your Trans cooler

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  2 роки тому

      Haven't looked into it yet. Planning to do the new GM TSB for the thermostat

  • @Coletrain0128
    @Coletrain0128 11 місяців тому +1

    Did you ever find the conversion flex plate to allow for 6 bolts? Thanks!

  • @michaelcrossman6951
    @michaelcrossman6951 11 місяців тому

    My 2016 6l80 went bad at 110.000 the welds cause the converter to warp so i put a billet converter in it plus a rebuild its works like a champ now i have a fuel leak at top of the gas tank it needs a fuel pump and line

  • @nathanielbarraza760
    @nathanielbarraza760 3 роки тому +1

    Ask for high carbon clutches because even though that converter is a dual clutch it’s carbon fiber which frays (clogs the lines) use raybestos

  • @michaelbowers7542
    @michaelbowers7542 2 роки тому +1

    Looking to add a stage 3 cam to my 2014 5.3l 1500 z71 (6l80e), I need help choosing the right stall for the stage 3 cam (219/231) (.630/.630)

  • @wiskyd
    @wiskyd 5 місяців тому

    Always replace the o-ring on the splined shaft, you should also have the transmission tuned to not allow TCC clutch to slip so much. I use Hptuners and bluecat software. And dont ever buy a reman converter unless you want to do the job twice.

  • @macclaindemarm
    @macclaindemarm 2 роки тому

    Is it abnormal for a break In Period to occur after a transmission rebuild and an upgraded torque converter? I am having shudder and rough shifts that has gotten better, but still occurs 200 miles after the new tc.

  • @MrLuckylilly
    @MrLuckylilly Рік тому +2

    I also flipped the pill in the thermostat

  • @leonwilsoniii
    @leonwilsoniii 3 роки тому +1

    ... ZL1/CSTV.. could just got a regular truck 6l90 3 bolt torque convertor. granted I have a ZL1/CTSV 6l90e torque conveter from CDS in my truck.

  • @20tea
    @20tea 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the information! Got an 07 Yukon Denali at 181k. Transmission is acting up a bit and suspecting the torque converter is on the way out. Going to install a billet TC from Circle D and replace a rear main seal. Wish me luck!

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  2 роки тому

      Good idea! Best of luck with it!

    • @brandon367011
      @brandon367011 2 роки тому

      did it work

    • @20tea
      @20tea 2 роки тому +3

      @@brandon367011 Yeah, both worked great. The leak was primarily the rear main seal, but also a leak in the plenium cover. The new torque conver also workes great! The old converter was not holding well and rumors say that a high mileage TC could ruin a transmission by sending material into the transmission. I'm pretty happy with the results.

    • @brandon367011
      @brandon367011 2 роки тому

      @@20tea good dead ! I have a 17 Silverado on 35 with only 51k miles and isn’t my daily driver but I should change the TC anyway from a 6l80 to a 6l90 ?

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  2 роки тому +1

      I would recommend a bullet converter. They normally will last until around 100-120K unless you tow a lot. It could fail earlier but not typically

  • @joshsilvers3937
    @joshsilvers3937 Рік тому

    Will this swap also include 4l80e in the 90's/ early 2000 obs silverados

  • @johnjestis7704
    @johnjestis7704 3 роки тому +5

    Should replace the green turbine shaft seal also.

  • @doozer3297
    @doozer3297 6 місяців тому

    If you replace the torque converter, do you have to get the ecm and tcm reprogrammed?

  • @MrLuckylilly
    @MrLuckylilly Рік тому

    I have a 2014 V6 silverado, is the converter also failing? I installed a drain plug in the tranny and dump it twice a year minimum

  • @joeinmi8671
    @joeinmi8671 2 роки тому +1

    IDK how much the factory gm converter is, but you can find aftermarket billet cover stock stall single disc lock-up converters now for around $500. I went with a unit sold by trans star. Iirc these units are made by a company out of ohio and sold through trans star.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  2 роки тому +1

      Good to know! I think this ran me around 400 or so but it's been awhile.

  • @edgarmontoya4763
    @edgarmontoya4763 Рік тому

    What's the bolt pattern for the 6l80 converter

  • @fitbymoses8880
    @fitbymoses8880 2 роки тому +1

    Just got my truck back yesterday mine failed at 71000 miles luckily I was still a few days away from my warranty expiring.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  2 роки тому

      You are lucky! I would pre-emptively change it before it happens again. Normally they last 80-120K from what I've seen. If you tow a low you'll probably be on the lower end of that range.

  • @tobyarceneaux5683
    @tobyarceneaux5683 Рік тому

    can you tell me if this 6l90 converter will work for a 2019 4.3 4x4 silverado

  • @OldSolidSnake
    @OldSolidSnake 6 місяців тому

    Well, is the 6L90 working? I'm in need of replacing mine, and I need the info on the converter you bought, please! Can you tell me which one you bought? Thanks!

  • @lowbudgetbob1155
    @lowbudgetbob1155 Рік тому +1

    So you didn't bother to replace the seal and o-ring?

  • @anthonymacneil2279
    @anthonymacneil2279 3 роки тому +4

    Appreciate all your video's and the care and details you take. Do you have any knowledge on the 8spd? There's many that have issues vibration/shudder and TQ replacement. My 17 HC with 6.2L has the 8spd, but I have yet to experience anything. Also I use Amsoil since bought new in 2017, from front to back.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks for that feedback! Unfortunately I do not have experience with the 8 speed. I do know there are a lot of shuddering issues and various Service Bulletins out for them. I've heard that changing you something like Amsoil usually helps. If you dealer is able to detect the shudder they have a flush procedure they are supposed to do for free from what I understand. I think you probably have avoided the issues by swapping to Amsoil

    • @rvogel317
      @rvogel317 3 роки тому +4

      Gm tech of 15 years, we just flush the 8 speeds with mobile 1 hplv now, works awesome, on the 6 speeds, it depends on the amount of metal in pan, small typical metal we flush with dex 6, large
      Abnormal We replace converter, and will I lnspect pump and pump housing, also sometimes the tecm gets metal that busts through the screen and into valve body,. If ur 8 speed shutters “ it can be pretty voilent, go up hill at steady speed of 35mph with trans well warmed up, if you have the shutter, you’ll feel it.

    • @trinitygraphics1824
      @trinitygraphics1824 Рік тому

      I have a 17 Sierra with the 8 speed and the 6.2. Had the violent shudder at 30k and the dealer did a fluid swap and flush. 3 years and 27K more miles it came back but was worse with shudder, noise and slippage. The dealer replaced the torque converter this time, fluid swap and flush. They didn’t see any metal in the pan, so they didn’t do a full rebuild. So far so good this time. September of 2022.

  • @billgatesc1072
    @billgatesc1072 2 місяці тому

    when you got done do you have a converter lock-up issue? i did the swap and now at 40 mph rpms jump from 1000 1200 and back to 1000 every sec. put my truck converter back in and it was ok.
    so i had the dealer parts warranty it and the 2nd on does the same.

  • @tylercrawford4946
    @tylercrawford4946 11 днів тому

    I have a bullet converter I’m installing into my 6L80. The bell housing is rubbing on initial install. Once it’s mounted to the engine will it then slide far enough away that the bell housing won’t rub?

  • @two4twentysam
    @two4twentysam Рік тому +2

    As I sit at the dealer watching this video. 130k. Just started feeling some irregularities. Dealer is doing some diagnostics for me. The tech mentioned tc failures. Will know more shortly. Ive watched a few videos and they all seam to be well done. Feel like I’ll be watching more soon. 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Рік тому

      Best of luck with it!

    • @two4twentysam
      @two4twentysam Рік тому +1

      @@TheSundaeDrive worst news. Tc failure, transmission failing. Got a quote. I think I’m going to call and make arrangements tomorrow. Just a bit out of my capabilities. Enjoy watching your videos though.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Рік тому

      @@two4twentysam sorry to hear that :( make sure if you plan to keep the truck you get a billet torque converter otherwise it will just fail again

  • @choklo187
    @choklo187 Рік тому

    Can I put a 6l90 on a 2012 silverado 4x4 is it better and is it a direct fit? My 6l80 is burnt ima buy a new tranny but if a 6l90 fits I will get it please reply

  • @jakeguerrette3295
    @jakeguerrette3295 Рік тому

    Can you post the link for the torque converter? Thank you!!!

  • @bigbeast103
    @bigbeast103 5 місяців тому

    You mentioned there shouldn't be any tuning required. Is that true?

  • @garrettharmon8633
    @garrettharmon8633 11 місяців тому

    Hey guys, I’m new here.
    I have a 2005 Chevy 2500HD and am swapping transmissions on it now. I have a 4L80E transmission and didn’t know if I could put this on the 4L80 or what I could do to make it better?

  • @adalbertovalencia4433
    @adalbertovalencia4433 Рік тому

    No problem with the 6l90e torque converter on a 6l80e???

  • @gdtruckern7632
    @gdtruckern7632 6 місяців тому

    I have a 2018 gmc sierra 1500 with a 8L90 and wanted to do a change out with a new torque converter. Who has the NEW torque converter and what is the part number if anyone knows ? I do not want to just put in the same converter that has the same failer problem. Thanks.

  • @YourUncle8501
    @YourUncle8501 Рік тому +1

    The TC just went on my '15 chevy express 3500 van with 6L90 at 121K. Wish I knew about this problem so I could replace it before failure

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Рік тому

      That stinks 😔 definitely recommend going with a billet transmission for the rebuild.

  • @shawnbeaver6882
    @shawnbeaver6882 2 роки тому

    Will this work in a 16 Silverado 5.3 4x4???

  • @jaimeperez833
    @jaimeperez833 2 роки тому

    Good luck

  • @kevinlegg1437
    @kevinlegg1437 3 роки тому +1

    Can you give us a update on how the paint on the chassis has held up .Thanks.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 роки тому

      I definitely plan to 👍👍 just have to get around to pulling the bed off again

  • @BadAssEngineering
    @BadAssEngineering 3 роки тому

    Does the transmission retain the Lock Up after swapping the Torque converter? The clutch-like feeling that engages after 40mph to be able to drive at low RPMs without the Converter Slipping

    • @mxmang
      @mxmang 2 роки тому

      Of course

  • @AndrewKellman
    @AndrewKellman 3 роки тому +1

    My 2015 Silverado had this issue at 55k miles. It was still under warranty but the whole transmission had to be rebuilt. It got debris and wouldn't move once that debris clogged it up. If I let the truck sit for awhile then start it, it would move for a few minutes but then it would stop. All fixed under warranty though.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 роки тому

      that stinks man - you were fortunate it occurred while under warranty. Can't believe it failed with such low mileage - most of the failures we have heard about were at 80K and above.

    • @AndrewKellman
      @AndrewKellman 3 роки тому +2

      @@TheSundaeDrive i believe it was the torque converter at least. It's been a few years. I'd have to find the report from the dealer but I know it said they found debris that was clogging it up. The truck is at 85k now and I haven't had any issues!

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 роки тому

      It probably was

    • @jamesyork6023
      @jamesyork6023 3 роки тому +1

      My 2015 is doing it, just turned 50k. What makes no sense to me is that I purposely had the truck tuned by Diablew to prevent (delay) any future transmission issues. Didn’t really start doing it until after I tuned it and driving it on the interstate more instead of short back road trips. I’m thinking of doing a flush/filter since it’s probably never had one done. But I have a feeling I’m going to be doing a converter here soon. 🤨 tempted to go ahead and fork over the money to do a proper DOD delete with a small cam and a 6l90 converter since I like the stock stall for any future towing needs/keeping torque down low in the power band for my larger all terrain tires. Also thinking of putting an aux cooler and a deeper pan on it to help save the trans.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 роки тому +1

      My thoughts exactly. Preventative maintenance is key with these trucks.

  • @arturo2637
    @arturo2637 10 днів тому

    I have a 2015 Chevrolet Silverado V6 4.3 and I been told to replace the torque converter but I was told to get a heavy duty torque converter what do you recommend?

  • @351cleavland
    @351cleavland 2 роки тому +3

    I am curious that since the 6l90 converter is heavier, more mass, does it affect revving quickness or milagage??
    It would be nice to hear from people who have done this mod and not just speculation, Thanks!

    • @TTURKI
      @TTURKI Рік тому

      Did you know any new infos ?

    • @TheLouisianan
      @TheLouisianan Рік тому +1

      Old comment, but my dad's 2012 just got a new 6L90 after his transmission died at 187k. It mostly drives the same in terms of "quickness", but the transmission feels a lot heavier when it shifts which honestly is better than the sloppy feeling of the 6L80s. My dad likes it more than when it was stock.

  • @shaunanichols8509
    @shaunanichols8509 Рік тому +1

    Canadian here so it's in kms but I got 280,000 out of mine but it needs done now !

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Рік тому

      That's a lot! I do plan to go billet before I hit 80K miles on this new tc. Just to be safe.

  • @jonathanbellows113
    @jonathanbellows113 Рік тому +1

    I’ve got a two-part question is there anything you can do to prolong your torque converter/transmissions lifecycle? Also, is there any upgraded tour converters that you can install instead of the AC Delco one?
    I have a 2018 Chevy Silverado Z 71 4 x 4

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Рік тому

      Yes, a billet tc would be the way to go. And frequent filter and fluid change. I recommend every 30k miles as well as a cooler thermostat

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Рік тому

      Change the fluid more often if you tow a lot

  • @robertthibodeaux4435
    @robertthibodeaux4435 3 роки тому +1

    Instead of hoping that the 90 torque C holds up, might as well put a good after market converter like a circle D and be done and have piece of mind! Thx for the videos!

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 роки тому +1

      Great point! I actually spoke to them tho and they did not have any with a low stall like factory. they said going with 6L90 was best for my application

    • @jeremymardlin5381
      @jeremymardlin5381 2 роки тому

      That is strange. They did have a low stall truck dual disk one in March of 2020.

  • @user-ut1ce4qb8m
    @user-ut1ce4qb8m 12 днів тому

    What is the stock stall of the 6l80 vs 6l90 - you mention this is practically a bolt-on replacement - no tuned needed- is this 100% accurate and is the only difference between the 2 tc is the beefer internals?

  • @nicholasdirenzo7711
    @nicholasdirenzo7711 2 роки тому +2

    Have you done a video on the thermal bypass to keep these things cooler ?

  • @jessiejennings397
    @jessiejennings397 10 місяців тому

    Do you believe this will work in my 2017 6L80?

  • @Fishermanjuice22
    @Fishermanjuice22 3 роки тому +7

    In the last 2 weeks, my 2014 GMC Sierra sle (131k miles) with the 5.3L started to shift in and out a bit randomly, also occasionally makes a rumble strip feeling at highway speeds when going up hills with just a bit of throttle applied. I just had the dealership do a transmission flush and it is better but not fixed. Dealership said it could just be the torque converter but recommended a full transmission replacement anyways at $5,200 and change. I’m considering my options. I’m handy and have tools, but more carpenter than mechanic. Do I try to save the $1,000 and drop the transmission and replace torque converter to see if it works before spending $5,200 on a replacement?

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 роки тому

      If the flush made it better in my opinion there is a good chance the transmission is ok and the torque converter may be starting to disintegrate and clog the lines. To me it's worth a shot because the torque converter will need to be replaced regardless. Is the transmission slipping at all? The sooner you replace it, the better chance you have of saving it if that is the issue. That is just my opinion tho as it is hard to know for sure without opening it up

    • @Fishermanjuice22
      @Fishermanjuice22 3 роки тому

      I haven’t noticed it slipping at all. How difficult is it to replace? Easier to pull the tranny out to get at it or the motor? I think the dealer was thinking that if replacing the torque converter, may as well switch the tranny too since it would be out.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 роки тому

      Easier to pull the transmission for sure. If you are doing the labor I'd only do the transfer case. A good shop can probably do it in 6 hours or less I would imagine. I've never pulled the trans myself so not positive.

    • @benalbright4617
      @benalbright4617 2 роки тому +2

      @Fishermanjuice22 do you mean the rps fluctuating a few hundred rpms up and down whe the torque converter is locking up?

    • @jeremymardlin5381
      @jeremymardlin5381 2 роки тому +4

      The thing like rumble strips is the torque converter clutch starting to fail. It is random slippage of the clutch that shakes the torque converter. It is commonly referred to as torque converter shudder.

  • @PNW_z71
    @PNW_z71 28 днів тому

    Can you provide part number of the 6L90 torque converter you used? There’s a lot of interchangeable parts I’m seeing between 80 and 90

  • @omarmoran5541
    @omarmoran5541 3 роки тому

    Did your truck have any symptoms? My 6l80 is currently leaking heavily from the vent tube, wondering if this can be the cause

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 роки тому

      Mine did not. I changed it to be safe. I'm not sure if that could be a symptom. Honestly, if you are over 100K miles I would just change the torque converter to be safe

  • @davidv3348
    @davidv3348 3 роки тому +1

    nice vid again when will your truck be back on the road'??!!

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 роки тому +2

      It's actually been back on the road. Have a coolant issue I'm trying to solve tho. We'll have an update soon.

  • @sempergumby8734
    @sempergumby8734 22 дні тому

    The 6l80e torque converter is constantly slipping that's why they fail. Get the 80 tuned to only lock in 5th and 6th. Raise the pressure and they are good

  • @BIGDOGPGHPA
    @BIGDOGPGHPA 10 місяців тому +3

    my 6l90 converter blew up at 102000 miles went with the billet converter with the rebuild

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  10 місяців тому

      Good to know! I plan to swap it out around 200K for a billet. Which one did you go with?

  • @Ashkatchit
    @Ashkatchit Рік тому

    dose 6L90 fit 4.3 3rd gen Silverado 6L80 is dog water my tranny was at 240 fml

  • @str8blastn_HTX
    @str8blastn_HTX Рік тому +1

    How is that 6l90 torque converter holding up. I have a 2013 Silverado with 160,000 mi. When I shifted into gear and hold the brake I can feel the torque converter. I meant off the break and for 2 seconds it's still there but after that it's gone. I thought it was the brakes but I turned and put new brake pads. It's a very light Rumble in the brake pedal but I'm pretty sure it's the torque converter. The reason why is because I had a LS that the transmission was jacked up wrong and it needed a new torque converter. And it feels like the same Rumble you never forget. What's your thoughts

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Рік тому

      No issues with my 6l90 transmissions so far. I have about 22K miles on it. I do plant to change it out when I hit 200K miles (90K on the converter) to a billet just to be safe.

  • @albertgreen4907
    @albertgreen4907 Рік тому +1

    Is there a GM part number for the 6L90 torque converter? I have 2 I'm looking at one is gm10405 vs gm10403??? Thanks!!

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Рік тому

      It is listed in the description under the parts section :)

  • @dudebud72
    @dudebud72 Рік тому

    My first transmission failed in my 16’ Denali at 32,000 miles and now at 58,000 finally did a service on the tranny and the torque converter is crap in the new replacement:

  • @helifixer206
    @helifixer206 2 роки тому +4

    Be careful when you tighten the fill and drain plugs, they are tapered plugs and if you over tighten them you can crack the transfer case at the holes.... Lesson learned the hard way, don't make my mistake!!

  • @dallasasher6878
    @dallasasher6878 22 години тому

    I’m at 290k miles and just now having issues hoping this fix the issues I have

  • @shawng7902
    @shawng7902 Рік тому

    Im wandering after install how long it took before the front seal to start leaking. And that o-ring in the unput shaft for lock up. They are usually junk.

  • @shawnmcclure7282
    @shawnmcclure7282 2 роки тому +1

    In my opinion anytime a transmission comes apart for issues might as well rebuild/build and upgrade

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  2 роки тому +1

      Always a good idea for sure! My transmission is lasting with the new tc so far. 128K miles issue free.

  • @slalomking
    @slalomking Рік тому

    What is the price of this 90 converter ?

  • @stewboy5490
    @stewboy5490 2 роки тому

    Does anyone have experience with a high pitch whining coming from transmission area? Happen in P,N,R,D. Some research points to transmission pump wearing but noise happens on and off, depending on the day. Fluid change? Filter change? Or complete rehaul of trans pump and TC?

    • @APutnam6022
      @APutnam6022 2 роки тому

      Whining noise is usually fluid cavitation in the pump. By that point the pump is wasted

  • @rileylodrigue9203
    @rileylodrigue9203 Місяць тому

    Can you put link for the torque converter

  • @RayBeato
    @RayBeato 2 роки тому +1

    what is the best torque converter for Yukon XL 2WD 2015 to buy?? the OEM or the aftermarket ones??? appreciate your feedback regards

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  2 роки тому

      Aftermarket for sure. Just need to find one that has a good stall rating for your application. I haven't looked into aftermarket options too much yet tho but I will when I start getting near 200K miles in a few years

    • @shootfirst408
      @shootfirst408 Рік тому

      I have a 2015 suburban what torque converter did you wind up going with? Thx

  • @kismofer1
    @kismofer1 2 роки тому

    where can I get this part mind is a 2014 silverado with 6 speed 4l80 thanks awesome information 👍

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  2 роки тому

      I linked to one on Amazon but might be sold out. I purchased through my local dealer.

  • @carmenrobertogb59
    @carmenrobertogb59 4 місяці тому

    fuking amazing & great video BRO....

  • @andrewr022488
    @andrewr022488 Рік тому +1

    Does anyone know if this issue is exclusive to the 14+ pickups or if the 2010-13 6l80e equipped pickups have similar problems?

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Рік тому +1

      Not sure but maybe someone else will weigh in

    • @jon41302
      @jon41302 Рік тому

      My 2011 Silverado had the torque converter go out and trash the trans at 105k. My 2017 Tahoe had the same issue at 75k. I drove the Silverado way harder than the Tahoe so... I'd say yes.

  • @fishman80
    @fishman80 8 місяців тому

    the 6l90 is prone as well. Billet only if u want bomb proof and fluid changes every 40-45k regardless of any magic trans fluid.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  6 місяців тому +1

      Billet is definitely a better option. And I try to change the fluid every 30K roughly to be safe. Which billet did you go with?

    • @fishman80
      @fishman80 6 місяців тому

      @@TheSundaeDrive “Circle D”

  • @shawnbeaver6882
    @shawnbeaver6882 2 роки тому +1

    Gonna have to do my torque converter!!! Any issues with the 6l90 converter????

  • @danielguerra626
    @danielguerra626 2 роки тому +1

    Where did you buy the Conversion Flex Plate?

  • @sethriley27
    @sethriley27 3 роки тому

    I’m wondering if I should do this swap at 53k miles just to be safe. Will this converter add hp? Thanks for the detailed videos bro!

    • @gmpartsguy9614
      @gmpartsguy9614 3 роки тому +2

      No. Torque converters don't add horsepower. Just adding a more durable and reliable torque converter.

    • @robertcoiley2999
      @robertcoiley2999 3 роки тому

      Did you end up doing a swap? I have a 16’ with 54k and was thinking about the same thing

    • @jeremymardlin5381
      @jeremymardlin5381 2 роки тому

      If you haven't already changed the torque converter I would di it as soon as possible. By the time you can tell it is getting bad it likely has started to damage the pump in the transmission already.

  • @ImaLoneWolfintheWoods
    @ImaLoneWolfintheWoods 3 роки тому +1

    How is this torque converter holding up for you still??? Am wanting to swsp out the shitty torque converter in my 2015 silverado 6spd. And think this may be the one I want

  • @ryanamey5024
    @ryanamey5024 11 місяців тому +2

    How has this held up so far? Looking to replace the TC in my truck as I’m getting some noises

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  11 місяців тому +2

      No issues at all. Billet is better option tho if you can find one you like.

    • @ryanamey5024
      @ryanamey5024 11 місяців тому

      @@TheSundaeDrive over twice the price for anything billet that I’ve seen. Any specific reason for going billet over the 6l90 like towing for example? Unless you’re aware of a billet close to the $400 mark

  • @bendino9016
    @bendino9016 2 роки тому +4

    2011 6l80 with 215k miles. no issues so far. fluid changes every 50k miles or so.

    • @hectorgonzalez5030
      @hectorgonzalez5030 2 роки тому +1

      I've been changing it each 50k as well, no issues yet

    • @johnserrano9689
      @johnserrano9689 2 роки тому +3

      I bought my 11 Sierra LC9 from an elderly local Guy who's a life long GM buyer. He babied the truck as youd expect with all services at the dealership I bought her from. Making the records as easy as it gets for me. I'm a builder so I'm hard on the truck but that's why we buy trucks right? We have the heaviest available package for the 03' year in the 2500hd 6.0 for the severe pulls/loads and she's bulletproof.
      However!! 3 years ago I pulled out 6'-10' dump trailer with my half ton! Just to get 3 yards of 3/4" gravel for my own house needed for a walk way. Told the guy out in the local yard what I wanted he said no problem so I figure great I'm heading in to pay as he knew his shit and how to properly load......I come out of the office and he says you're all set man the 3yrads of gravels loaded I said thanks and see you around....
      Fckn guy didn't know that the new Bobcat wasn't equipped with the same half yard bucket oh no it had a yard bucket so his SIX FULL BUCKETS almost filled our dump trailer so I'm looking at it like WTF!?? I double checked that's only 3 yards man you're sure and he replied ya man I've been doing this almost as long as youve been alive, what's wrong....so I go back to me truck fire her up and put it in 4wd full on as both axles on the dump were showing a load to put it mildly. The 11' HALF TON! in tow haul got that load moving very easy, but I have no electric brake control in the truck as we have a real full on work horse for that lol and stopping that load was very hard. Knowing something is way off I pulled it to the shop and hooked the work truck to her. It was 6 yards at 3000 pounds plus the dump about 2000 pounds the truck pulled up some long steady grades to get to the shop. So that is legitimately 20,000 pounds my HALF TON was forced to pull and to stop! Honestly she impressed me so much easily pulling the load I was double guessing that old timer way overloaded it, but trying to stop that load took every skill I had so I knew it was over.
      At the shop I rolled the mesh cover up and inspected the load myself closely this time. I was extremely pissed off as one clear look even a city boy could tell that's way more than 3 fckn yards man. Had no choice but to pull her to the shop once I left. Between being very disappointed with myself for trusting the old timer down there so much as it is ultimately my responsibility for what I pull with my truck, yet at the same time I, along with all the guys there were absolutely blown away the half ton Sierra pulled that 20,000 plus pound load so easily. They all witnessed me completely stop on the slight grade so a couple trucks could move outta my way, then have to get all that weight rolling again and it did make all 8 cylinders work but she had power to spare! The 2500hd equipped with the heaviest possible setup/package even offered by GM actually had abit harder time getting the load moving even with 4.11 ring&pinion....but the random dumps brakes made all the difference so I decided to pull her all the way home a half hr drive purely uphill by taking all the back roads going slow an easy allowing anyone behind me to pass.
      That load was thousands of pounds above even the HD work truck built for it capacity, but the way that 11' LC9 with the 6L80 and 3.52 (I can't remember exact ratio but close enough) ring& pinion pulled that load making it so effortlessly even the Ford guys with diesel were the first to say that's beyond impressive.
      Absolutely STUPID! A combination of mistakes/stupidity lead to that. I am telling the truth entirely and ya it's embarrassing as it gets to admit that even tho I know better I STILL pulled off that drop dead stupid move, yet the truck took it.
      That gravel was moist as hell but doesn't hold water like sand, still the 3000 pounds per yard is a conservative figure, and there was a full 6 yards in that 1ton dump (rated to haul 4 tons itself)
      That's pushing as hard as a guy can to break his truck or have problems of some sort, yet our trucks stepped up, took that ass whippin and just carried on. I definitely got LUCKY and would never allow it to happen again, but the fact remains that the 2011 Sierra 1500 LC9-6L80 3.52 R&P pulled over 20,000LBs off the fckn hitch (rated 10,000LBs max) mostly uphill.
      Well done GM👍🇺🇸👍🇺🇸🤯

    • @bendino9016
      @bendino9016 2 роки тому

      @@johnserrano9689 3.42 rear end likely. i have the same powertrain you described, and have only towed about 4000 lbs. it did it without any issue, but thats hardly much considering the tongue weight was probably 400-500 lbs. otherwise it gets daily'd, has done about 20k miles a year all its life. gravel roads, minnesota salty winters. rusty but trusty thus far.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  2 роки тому

      That's crazy, I accidentally told about 13K lbs with my 14 5.3 and it was good just couldn't go above 45-50mph

    • @johnserrano9689
      @johnserrano9689 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheSundaeDrive it's crazy what we do at times, but the fact we know better in the first place is the funny part in the end. If we damage our trucks being that stupid then we man up, complain as we're lowering the tranny down and out but after a week or 2 we laugh.
      The times we get LUCKY we also know enough that it's nothing to brag about lol
      I love the 78' GM trucks as an example, but a 78 half ton had no chance of pulling that 20,000lb trailer man let's face it a dam 3/4 ton of the era would be extremely sketchy. But our new trucks we curse out when say a tank pressure sensor goes bad dropping that 5volt circuit putting the truck in limp mode, the truck screaming at us turn off engine immediately as there's no oil pressure! But we know there is. So we gotta hook up the volt meter to the battery ground, other terminal to the grey wire on the MAP sensor watching the meter as we unplug 1 sensor at a time until the 5 volts comes back......but at the end of the day they really have come incredibly far. Fckn 1500 now is equal if not stronger than the old 3/4's an there on up
      I guess it's the beauty of such a competitive market 👍🇺🇸

  • @swampbunny7944
    @swampbunny7944 Рік тому +1

    What stall speed should I use for my torque converter ? Complete stock 2015 Chevy Silverado z71

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Рік тому +1

      You should stay with the stock stall then most likely. Talk to the shop you are buying the torque converter from and they will be able to provide more insight. Circle d makes good torque converters from what I have heard.

    • @swampbunny7944
      @swampbunny7944 Рік тому

      @@TheSundaeDrive thank you

  • @gmpartsguy9614
    @gmpartsguy9614 3 роки тому +3

    Not sure how the ZL1/CTS-V 6L90 converter holds up (haven't seen any get replaced at work yet) but the 6L90 HD truck converters seem to the same crap as the 6L80 truck ones. We've put converters or worse in plenty 2014-2018 model year trucks. Sad. 07-13 trucks I don't think we've done all of one or two of them at most.

    • @andresneira9745
      @andresneira9745 3 роки тому

      Frend do you think that changeing fluid transmission by mobil 1. Helps? I know a los about it. Thank you

    • @gmpartsguy9614
      @gmpartsguy9614 3 роки тому +1

      @@andresneira9745 Are you talking the Mobil 1 HP fluid? That's only for the 8 speed transmissions. The 6 speed just run any good Dexron 6 ATF so GM, Amsoil, Mobil, etc. Dexron 6 for the 6 speeds, Mobil LV ATF HP Blue Label for 8 speed.

    • @gmpartsguy9614
      @gmpartsguy9614 3 роки тому +1

      @@andresneira9745 Changing it will put fresh fluid in which will replace and replenish the additives used to regulate clutch slippage so changing it is still good to do. Every 40-50K, especially if you tow.

    • @andresneira9745
      @andresneira9745 3 роки тому

      Yeah my trasmisión is 8 speed so i will change for mobil 1 because my transmission Shakes some times

    • @andresneira9745
      @andresneira9745 3 роки тому

      I went to chevrolet and they wanet put the factory but i heard that in other chevrolet they put mobil 1. So has 2 diferentes mobil 1?? My truck is a silverado 2017. 5.3 8 speed

  • @Kogaion78
    @Kogaion78 9 місяців тому

    how fast is 6l90 in auto ???...........how about 8l90 ???......thx..........just curious....

  • @tylerc5077
    @tylerc5077 2 роки тому +1

    where did you get the 6l90 torque converter??

  • @utvuae3661
    @utvuae3661 10 місяців тому

    6L90 will fit in my 2015 silverado . what other convertor can fit ?? please help

  • @tranwrx
    @tranwrx 2 роки тому +1

    What's the part number # for 6speed 2015 GMC Sierra 1500 5.3L 4x4.. please help

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  2 роки тому

      I have the 6l90 torque converter linked in the description 24242552: amzn.to/3oSVMuk