Man, oh man, after flying professionally in Alaska for 18 years, where winter-dramas like this were almost daily occurrences, it's a real pleasure to be retired and sitting down here in relatively-warmer Eastern Oregon -- even in mid-November! . . . counting my blessings with an attitude of gratitude.
If you've decided to live in that type of climate, and you don't understand that there will sometimes be delays, in receiving your food and supplies from vintage aircraft, that have to operate in -40F degree temperatures,,then you shouldn't have moved there in the first place. These mechanics, pilots, loading crews,and managers,, are miracle workers.
I had the good fortune of flying on one of those aircraft once. That was back in the 80's in the Philippines where it was used for island hopping. It vibrated so badly that to this day I'm still loosing teeth. Such fond memories. I would love to fly in one again.
Wow, these people are amazing. When I was young in Northern MN I used to work on my snowmobile outside in bad conditions, but nothing like that! Most people fortunately will never know what -40 and some wind feels like, but I do.
Wow how long has WONDER been back, I thought they d gone for good, I've really missed their documentaries. Great I'm elated to find this channel again.
im thankful for these brave men, god bless you all, you deserve a nice pay check, love from ukraine, nepedivka village! god bless you! i love their accent too
i know how these guys feel about the cold. I worked for a company installing alarm systems and sattelite dishes. We got a call for a dish install in the bay of fundy. It was minus 48 not including the wind coming off the bay. For what was usually a half hour job (yes we were fast and Happy to do the job) It took us almost 6 hours we had to keep switching off to climb the ladder onto the roof turn one of the 6 bolts around 3 times and had to get off the roof and go in the customers trailer. That was the coldest i have ever been and i live in canada
well when people see this episode they will understand how much effort it takes to run a business like this but buffalo's air frieght needs better backup for delivering
@Pandacat 666 New planes and training cost a lot and when you have to fly toilet paper to thoose towns profit margins are tight. Usually thoose airlines are getting paid by the government to fly there because no one wants to do it. Also you can't find newer small cargo planes that can land on thoose airstrips.
@Pandacat 666 these aircraft are rugged and well suited for the task at hand. they are tail draggers which is better on these surfaces. a possible replacement is a basler BT67, which is a re-engined and remanufactured C47/DC3. the problem is they are uber expensive.
@Pandacat 666 that's a stupid remark from someone who has never been around radial aircraft engines. they have skills associated with working on them too. why do they use them? they are affordable, they do the job well, and they are very rugged. the DC3/C47 is legendary, a modern replacement is the same air-frame converted to turbo prop. very expensive. look up basler. mikey o'brien goes into the economics of their operation in a video on "plane saves". a basler is a million dollar aircraft
Yeah. The conflict between profit and good safety margins is a bit scary too. A lot of accidents are caused by cost cutting on repairs and maintenance. With lots of staff stressed to the point of quitting, Buffalo Airways seems to have more than enough pressure to cut corners on safety. Alaska Air flight 261 is a good example and Wonder has an episode about it. Nearly all Wonder episodes involve people dying except this one. Maybe Wonder anticipates a plane crash in Northern Canada involving an air transport service like the one in this episode. If Buffalo Airways has a crash in the next few years, Wonder will be more ready than ever now.
Seems Mike isn't a very good manager. That backup plane should always be primed and ready to go in the cold Xmas season. That's what has caused the biggest problem
Mike is immature and I don't think he really wants to be there. Its because of the family thing he would be ridiculed by the rest of the family if he wasn't. You can tell by his plodding no urgency and smirking face that he just goes with the flow.
I’m an automotive technician and shop owner in upstate ny. I think it’s bad when it’s 20 degrees Fahrenheit and snowing. I don’t so much as want to walk outside to get another car to pull into the shop, I don’t even want to go outside to get the mail and these boys like chuck are replacing an engine outside in colder weather then im ever dealing with. If someone wanted me to install an engine outside in the cold I would have to be making some incredible amount of money im talking hundreds of dollars per hour maybe more. I would want to leave the plane there until it was warmer outside I just couldn’t see putting anyone through that. What I would do is make a big tent for situations like this so the guys get out of the elements a bit kinda surprised they don’t have something like that it’s just insane to be doing work in cold like that. Obviously they would need to use a different heat source as you can’t have the guys breathing in the fumes from the heaters they use but that’s not a big deal
Watching this again Chuck Should have took the engine off before the new engine came.. he bitched it took 4 days to get the new engine but he waited until the new engine came to remove the old engine? What a waste of time
I think the people in the small town should calm down about their Christmas presents and plan ahead for planes breaking down. Buy a huge bag of rice, some potatoes, oil, frozen veg and meat, etc. They choose to live in a place where they are dependent on these planes, so it's on them to take responsibility for that.
Poor TXW :( It was nice to see her fly in this episode. (For those that don't know, TXW had a forced landing a few years ago and was damaged beyond repair. No one killed)
Please please make more shows for us all of your fans to watch I miss them so much I have seen every one you all maded please make more love your shows. Please
and I am back again :) I didn't get any notification about you reply in my comment lol it was like 5 days back but I am super happy that you noticed my comment.
It must be ridiculously expensive to live that far North. How do people pay for all that air transportation up there? Ship, train, and truck are all far cheaper and available in the more densely populated parts of Canada.
@@petterderter6354 while true. The reason why the company itself doesn't is "it can't". The plane to upgrade to doesn't exist. The reason? There's not enough money to make a newer plane that meets all the minimum requirements to replace the older ones.
@@6th_Army - Then it sounds like eventually there just won't be any way for transporting food and supplies, except maybe my dog sled. It was said in the beginning of this program, when the parts are gone, no more planes.
@@6th_Army That's not particularly true, there are other aircraft capable of servicing these routes, I believe ATR-72s, Hercs and Q400s aren't uncommon up there. From what I've read I'm guessing Buffalo just has a good cost structure, little to no payments on aircraft, only expense to fly is O&M, hell they even save on ground crew by making pilots do that work. They likely undercut pretty heavily on contracts.
It looks like I found another Brooks, pilot. It seems to run in our family tree. Uncles were pilots ,Dad was a pilot and so am I. I personally prefer a warmer climate. Captain Robert K. Morgan Brooks. LAKE LA-4-200. Beaufort , SC. Love to Fly. A1.
Fantastic show . Wouldn’t Buffalo be better getting more modern planes to reduce the number of down hours due to engine break downs ? These veteran planes seem to be costing $$$ to run too , wonderful as they are to see still flying , parts soon won’t be available. Love and admiration from Australia
Modern planes are going to cost millions each. Buffalo probably doesn't have the money. I do wonder why they don't use their Electras for this. Maybe the northern airports can't handle the big jets?
@@georgegonzalez2476 i think the Electra’s cost too much to run unless it’s a huge job with good profit margain . The ideal plane for these guys would be the Hercules
It's Not really anymore Expensive to Run these Aircraft... You have to have Mechanics Regardless of the Age of the Aircraft,,, and although the Parts may be Harder to find... They are Likely relatively Cheap compared to Modern Aircraft,, PLUS Buffalo has Their own Bone Yard...
Pilots concerns for an unscheduled overnight - will there be entertainment and nightlife. Engineers concern for an unscheduled overnight - will I have a bed and something to eat.
while watching this video one of my pc mouse broke so i got another brokin one that i liked more and since i was at a scene with chuck i remembered how in one episode he hit the engine and it started working apparently it works for pc mouses to
Bull****. People in the north stock up on food that's been delivered by truck long before winter starts and never have to rely on super expensive supplies delivered by air.
at 24-00 if my started telling me its my fault i would start walking why didnt he encourage they were all in the same boat he wants to learn to back off and help not criticise.hes been doing it to long and had pushed his staff past a point of bothering if he dont watch out hope he reads this and takes a look from the outside as to what hes doing.
At 4:24 Scott's imitation of the C-46 engine start up is spot on. When you love the sounds that airplanes make, you are a true avgeek!
Man, oh man, after flying professionally in Alaska for 18 years, where winter-dramas like this were almost daily occurrences, it's a real pleasure to be retired and sitting down here in relatively-warmer Eastern Oregon -- even in mid-November! . . . counting my blessings with an attitude of gratitude.
I like that”attitude of gratitude”. I just retired after 38 years of flying corporate but grew up around old round motor airplanes in Chino Ca.
If you've decided to live in that type of climate, and you don't understand that there will sometimes be delays, in receiving your food and supplies from vintage aircraft, that have to operate in -40F degree temperatures,,then you shouldn't have moved there in the first place. These mechanics, pilots, loading crews,and managers,, are miracle workers.
@@just10NU At minus 40 degrees both Fahrenheit and Celsius are the same.
Most of the populations of those small villages didn’t “move” there; they are indigenous to the area and their families have lived there forever.
Agree.
I had the good fortune of flying on one of those aircraft once. That was back in the 80's in the Philippines where it was used for island hopping. It vibrated so badly that to this day I'm still loosing teeth. Such fond memories. I would love to fly in one again.
4:24 is the best impression of a radial engine starting up I've ever heard
Hilarious ! 😀😀
I remember when I saw Scott doing this the first time i died of laughter 🤣
Wow, these people are amazing. When I was young in Northern MN I used to work on my snowmobile outside in bad conditions, but nothing like that!
Most people fortunately will never know what -40 and some wind feels like, but I do.
17:32 "I'm a professional alcoholic" best thing I've ever heard
I not sure how I went from a Crime Investigation binge to Aviation Investigation binge XD
Strangely its all I been watching lately I don't know why !
4:23 was by far the best impersonation of an engine start ever.
And best reason to fly 🎉
Brave men to fly these old planes and in that cold, yikes... Real tough dudes, heroes to those towns people.
Absolutely!!!!!
Those old planes are the only ones that can handle that cold
“All you have to do is get it up”.
Chuck 😂😂😂😂
Wow how long has WONDER been back, I thought they d gone for good, I've really missed their documentaries. Great I'm elated to find this channel again.
Be honest, you randomly found this channel and now you are addicted to watching these videos
So true
Yes...
Nope. Did not happen.
You're right and It was a decent recommendation from youtube
I didnt found randomly i had searched for i shouldnt be alive which was broadcasted on discovery
Buffalo is an airline we don't know much about in Canada but it's a unusual airline just to say the least
The plane that saved buffalo 😳
im thankful for these brave men, god bless you all, you deserve a nice pay check, love from ukraine, nepedivka village! god bless you! i love their accent too
Interesting since a lot of Ukrainians immigrated to Canada.
@@inovakovsky one day i wish to visit canada! came to usa in '96 in Newark NJ and left back home once things got wild there!
I miss this series. I wish they could have made more episodes.
Why did they stop?
i know how these guys feel about the cold. I worked for a company installing alarm systems and sattelite dishes. We got a call for a dish install in the bay of fundy. It was minus 48 not including the wind coming off the bay. For what was usually a half hour job (yes we were fast and Happy to do the job) It took us almost 6 hours we had to keep switching off to climb the ladder onto the roof turn one of the 6 bolts around 3 times and had to get off the roof and go in the customers trailer. That was the coldest i have ever been and i live in canada
was it a good paying job? was it worth it? i couldnt. im so cold natured. youre a tough one.
I've watched so much from this channel that in my dreams, I've dreamt of purchasing a plane.
well when people see this episode they will understand how much effort it takes to run a business like this but buffalo's air frieght needs better backup for delivering
@Pandacat 666 New planes and training cost a lot and when you have to fly toilet paper to thoose towns profit margins are tight. Usually thoose airlines are getting paid by the government to fly there because no one wants to do it. Also you can't find newer small cargo planes that can land on thoose airstrips.
at least they have Electra right now. this is too good to hear😂
@Pandacat 666 these aircraft are rugged and well suited for the task at hand. they are tail draggers which is better on these surfaces. a possible replacement is a basler BT67, which is a re-engined and remanufactured C47/DC3. the problem is they are uber expensive.
@Pandacat 666 not to mention the conditions these things are operated in. a brand new airplane would have issues
@Pandacat 666 that's a stupid remark from someone who has never been around radial aircraft engines. they have skills associated with working on them too.
why do they use them? they are affordable, they do the job well, and they are very rugged. the DC3/C47 is legendary, a modern replacement is the same air-frame converted to turbo prop. very expensive. look up basler.
mikey o'brien goes into the economics of their operation in a video on "plane saves". a basler is a million dollar aircraft
I hope Chuck is doing now stand up comic, he is hilarius 🤣🤣🤣 👏👏👏, he ´ ll get rich.
Couldn't pay me to live that far north
Who doesn't want Chuck at the table at a family Christmas 😊!
I didn't have a problem in the world until I started watching this, now I'm in the bath with a toster.
Love Ice pilots buffalo Joe is an Aviation legend absolutely love this show. More please👍✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈👍😊
Chuck the mechanic certainly earns his pay!
Gotta be Scary flying that ole plane, especially when they're always taking it apart and putting it back together due to the cold.
Yeah. The conflict between profit and good safety margins is a bit scary too. A lot of accidents are caused by cost cutting on repairs and maintenance. With lots of staff stressed to the point of quitting, Buffalo Airways seems to have more than enough pressure to cut corners on safety. Alaska Air flight 261 is a good example and Wonder has an episode about it. Nearly all Wonder episodes involve people dying except this one. Maybe Wonder anticipates a plane crash in Northern Canada involving an air transport service like the one in this episode. If Buffalo Airways has a crash in the next few years, Wonder will be more ready than ever now.
I regularely jumped out from a about 60 year old plane (Utva 66), I was happy never to have to land in it hahah
@@IARRCSim yea, I've watched all those videos on wonder, another reason why I haven't ever flown lol
My dad would travel to Yellowknife and every other weekend in tiny planes like this for his job. Jesus.
How those ppl can complain about the delay of their food delivery, when willingly live there, and it's December!
Agreed! Seems like a very risky choice to live in such an area!
I love these videos! Great work. Thanks!🙏
please post more ice pilots episodes i love this show
Combination of ice road truckers and orange county choppers.
The most impressive thing in this episode is that old f150 pulling the airplane….IN REVERSE
Ford owners looking smug.
Great story, reminds me of my time way up north. Thanks
Watching from Uganda 🇺🇬 kampala
i love uganda! from ukraine
@@tbcvirginia3387 Cool
I need waraji bro
@@smartmoneyinstitution9279 Hahahahaha I hv one bottle 🍾 left only
It’s a shame that Kelly died so young 🥲 R. I. P.
🇺🇸Grandpa🇺🇸
Working on an engine in the deep freeze without a hanger seems just plain wrong .
idk kinda reminds me of the Military lol
Tough people! Wow!
They couldn't pay me enough to work in those conditions.
@@bmacd2112 Also, these isolated communities are expensive to live AF.
@@inovakovsky Actually theyre not, at all.
RIP Kelly
beaucoup de courage pour des conditions " hors normes " Félicitations ...
Seems Mike isn't a very good manager. That backup plane should always be primed and ready to go in the cold Xmas season. That's what has caused the biggest problem
Mike is immature and I don't think he really wants to be there. Its because of the family thing he would be ridiculed by the rest of the family if he wasn't. You can tell by his plodding no urgency and smirking face that he just goes with the flow.
I’m an automotive technician and shop owner in upstate ny. I think it’s bad when it’s 20 degrees Fahrenheit and snowing. I don’t so much as want to walk outside to get another car to pull into the shop, I don’t even want to go outside to get the mail and these boys like chuck are replacing an engine outside in colder weather then im ever dealing with. If someone wanted me to install an engine outside in the cold I would have to be making some incredible amount of money im talking hundreds of dollars per hour maybe more. I would want to leave the plane there until it was warmer outside I just couldn’t see putting anyone through that. What I would do is make a big tent for situations like this so the guys get out of the elements a bit kinda surprised they don’t have something like that it’s just insane to be doing work in cold like that. Obviously they would need to use a different heat source as you can’t have the guys breathing in the fumes from the heaters they use but that’s not a big deal
Watching this again Chuck
Should have took the engine off before the new engine came.. he bitched it took 4 days to get the new engine but he waited until the new engine came to remove the old engine? What a waste of time
i like these series
Watching from Philippines...thumbs up Ice pilots.... 👍👍👍👍
I think the people in the small town should calm down about their Christmas presents and plan ahead for planes breaking down. Buy a huge bag of rice, some potatoes, oil, frozen veg and meat, etc. They choose to live in a place where they are dependent on these planes, so it's on them to take responsibility for that.
that...is what 'adults' do
In that kind of cold you're hands hurt, and I do mean HURT!
These mechanics are seriously hardcore
The big, bad issue with programmes such as this, is the way they keep repeating stuff. It really grinds my gears!
How do they live that harsh life?!!Great people!
Let’s hope they get at least some good days without all the problems.
Poor TXW :( It was nice to see her fly in this episode.
(For those that don't know, TXW had a forced landing a few years ago and was damaged beyond repair. No one killed)
The turbo prop one?
You mean the Elektra right? I always thought they got her back
Please please make more shows for us all of your fans to watch I miss them so much I have seen every one you all maded please make more love your shows. Please
Keep up harvesting seals out of Yellowknife “Great Slave”! I love Stink-Flipper!
Love this show thank u upload
How do you not love Scott?? 😀
Thank you for sharing
Many flights on the L-188, Adak, on Reeve and P-3 VP-SOSUS. Great memories.
My new show to binge
Thank you for posting this show :)
god bless these brave men flying.. dangerous
and I am back again :)
I didn't get any notification about you reply in my comment lol it was like 5 days back but I am super happy that you noticed my comment.
Cargo comp any up here in Anchorage Alaska EverettsAir Cargo still flies a pair of C-46s and they also have 1 or 2 used to deliver fuel
Versions or descendents of the Electra are being used now by by Canadian forces as the Aurora.
It must be ridiculously expensive to live that far North. How do people pay for all that air transportation up there? Ship, train, and truck are all far cheaper and available in the more densely populated parts of Canada.
I ask myself the same thing when I watch stuff like this and the Australian outback truckers.
So Nice WORK
So proud of you !
My favorite channel ❤️
ayy i like these
Also why dont they upgrade to newer aircraft
one word money
@@petterderter6354 while true. The reason why the company itself doesn't is "it can't". The plane to upgrade to doesn't exist. The reason? There's not enough money to make a newer plane that meets all the minimum requirements to replace the older ones.
@@6th_Army - Then it sounds like eventually there just won't be any way for transporting food and supplies, except maybe my dog sled. It was said in the beginning of this program, when the parts are gone, no more planes.
@@CanYouRememberWhen Yeqj, that's the unfortunate truth.
@@6th_Army That's not particularly true, there are other aircraft capable of servicing these routes, I believe ATR-72s, Hercs and Q400s aren't uncommon up there. From what I've read I'm guessing Buffalo just has a good cost structure, little to no payments on aircraft, only expense to fly is O&M, hell they even save on ground crew by making pilots do that work. They likely undercut pretty heavily on contracts.
RIP Kelly Jurasevich, what a beautiful soul
She died?
Sounds like someone woth the right tools could make a small proffet manufacturing parts for these old work horses.
14:51 CAT!!!!
Chuck is a riot, “ I’m gonna turn gay”
Next episode will get uploaded?
Buffalo has the best employees ever!
It looks like I found another Brooks, pilot. It seems to run in our family tree. Uncles were pilots ,Dad was a pilot and so am I.
I personally prefer a warmer climate. Captain Robert K. Morgan Brooks. LAKE LA-4-200. Beaufort , SC. Love to Fly. A1.
4:24 I couldn't have said it better myself.
I think they have C-130 Hercules now. Great plane.
Fantastic show . Wouldn’t Buffalo be better getting more modern planes to reduce the number of down hours due to engine break downs ? These veteran planes seem to be costing $$$ to run too , wonderful as they are to see still flying , parts soon won’t be available. Love and admiration from Australia
Modern planes are going to cost millions each. Buffalo probably doesn't have the money. I do wonder why they don't use their Electras for this. Maybe the northern airports can't handle the big jets?
@@georgegonzalez2476 i think the Electra’s cost too much to run unless it’s a huge job with good profit margain . The ideal plane for these guys would be the Hercules
@@richardgodber8369 Mickey has a video about why they don’t have a hercules
It's Not really anymore Expensive to Run these Aircraft... You have to have Mechanics Regardless of the Age of the Aircraft,,, and although the Parts may be Harder to find... They are Likely relatively Cheap compared to Modern Aircraft,, PLUS Buffalo has Their own Bone Yard...
What about investing a bit in easy to install electric de-icing/heater systems...??
Pilots concerns for an unscheduled overnight - will there be entertainment and nightlife.
Engineers concern for an unscheduled overnight - will I have a bed and something to eat.
while watching this video one of my pc mouse broke so i got another brokin one that i liked more and since i was at a scene with chuck i remembered how in one episode he hit the engine and it started working apparently it works for pc mouses to
Excellent videos 👌👌👌👌
It made my Day
BA should really contact the USAF to acquire a few C-130's from their reserve yards
A C-130 can’t land on most of the landing strips Buffalo delivers to, but the C-46 can. That’s the catch.
Runninig ancient aircraft in what must be the harshest conditions on the planet - no wonder these things are breaking down so often.
Bull****. People in the north stock up on food that's been delivered by truck long before winter starts and never have to rely on super expensive supplies delivered by air.
There few roads. Look up ice road truckers.
So you think this whole video is fake? Because you know better? Even though you don't?
So what are they delivering to? Father bloody Christmas?
You guys are awesome
looks like a band of alcos running an old aircraft from jankyard :D mechanic is filled from sunset till dawn i bet :D :D
Chuck is too funny. But I did get to giggle likes good Catholic girl. Lol
This belongs to the mechanic 👑
Love how they get trhe gear upop at 10 m above the runway haha
Wow! They got balls! Not me!
Just ridiculous living conditions.
Brave! They need drone technology for sure.
dont be daft that would mean Buffalo having to step into the future and they clearly have no plans to do that cos it would mean progression.
What do they do, at the four isolated communities? Or, why are they there, mining or something?
Bufalo needs a new C130 but it operates with a very old C46.
I wanna know what broke in the engine... 🤔
Yep
I wonder is Buffalo still using the C-46's for the Mackenzie Valley run
I see some P3's in the background, fly them!!
The Electra is flown by the Canadian Forces as the CP 140 and the US as the P3
Just a fun fact
at 24-00 if my started telling me its my fault i would start walking why didnt he encourage they were all in the same boat he wants to learn to back off and help not criticise.hes been doing it to long and had pushed his staff past a point of bothering if he dont watch out
hope he reads this and takes a look from the outside as to what hes doing.
Im sure he will take advice from someone who can't spell, has no experience in the industry, and has no idea what they're talking about.
Kelly died in 2017