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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- The Accabadora or ’Lady of Kind Death’ was a woman in Sardinian culture who performed an ancient form of euthanasia, an act of mercy for the terminally ill in order to put an end to their suffering. It was a ritual of Sardinian tradition with roots going back into the mists of time, but carried out as recently as the 1960s. Kept concealed and out of sight of the Roman Catholic culture that considered her a murderer, the Femmina Accabadora is a legendary figure - as alive in the popular mind as the vampires of Transylvania.
In this film, we hear from eye witnesses who break the code of silence still in place to this day. We learn where and how they lived and how they were perceived by the community at large. We’ll see how the rite itself was carried out. An immersion inside a culture that is thousands of years old and a relationship with death that is as natural as life itself.
Director: Fabrizio Galatea
My goodness, what a beautiful & well made documentary. I’m looking forward to learning more about the acabadoras reading , “The Shawl”.
Thank you so much for sharing this with us.
Tried to find this book and all I could find was a WWII Jewish story with that title
Sentivo mia madre malata terminale chiedere a Dio di tagliare quel debole filo che la teneva in vita..i suoi lamenti di notte,le urla,l ho vista sparire piano piano,condumarsi come una candela.Lucida fino all ultimo respiro.L ho vista fatta di morfina e lei odiava i farmaci . .per favore, attaccamento alla vita se la vita vale la pena di essere vissuta,se puoi alzarti dal letto,lavarti,uscire, mangiare,mettere la lavatrice, annaffiare le tue amate piante.Non è vita se soffri come una bestia.certo la morte fa fatica ad essere acettata ma a volte è segno di amore lasciare andare via chi ami.
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Very interesting. Who wants to lie and suffer? NOONE. Thank you for this documentary.
You don't know. Our western culture fears suffering/death without facing these issues.
Omg, never known of this practice, but highly recommend it to end the suffering of the terminally ill.
Midwife of the beginning, midwife of the end - they deliver. And they are everywhere.
Very beautiful documentary. A couple of friends from Sardinia mentioned about the "S'accabadora" and told me that there was one of these ladies not far from their village.
There is just so much pain a person can withstand. It’s a individual and deeply personal choice. What I feel about this is of no consequence.
My grandfather was Sardinian, I was amazed and in awe at grandfathers mother how she helped to heal people with herbal remedies and and praying and massaging the affected area of the body. Persons receiving these treatments felt better. Now that a I am older , I feel these people are mystical , Sardinia is very mystical land and many people retain these arts since ancient days. Some call it pagan and that’s there option. When a person dying it is a detriment time between their God and themselves and I am not going to judge this. Been at my sister in laws house she decided to die at home it was a very hard to see her slip away from this mortal life and in pain. Only when you are witness to this you realize that we are powerless to change anything that was happening. She did die and you felt her peace no more pain . She now at the place she chose from this mortal life.
marystagno - modliła się? czy raczej odprawiala mantrę?
She CHOSE?
@@vikianettepittscydell3723 you must have compassion for those you love.
Wonderfully eye-opening documentary! As a believer in ethical suicide and a believer in ending someone's life if they are suffering, I truly enjoyed this doc. Thank you!
Here in the UK the hospice my mother died in of throat cancer, they used the Liverpool pathway to end her suffering. Basically they removed all nourishment from her or water, kept her deeply sedated and semi conscious, until her heart gave out. To be honest, it was all horrific for me, as she lasted 10 days like this (they expected her to die in three days). It haunts me to this day, witnessing her deterioration, but at least when she actually died it was a relief for her, and to those witnessing her determination to hang onto life - that at last she was not suffering any longer. The Chinese have a saying which is one of wishing you well… it is ‘May your death be sudden’. We put dogs and cats down to alleviate their suffering and they are gone in seconds, not days.
My daughters father was put on that pathway, here in Ireland. The only thing is, he lived! Thankfully another consultant looked at him and realised he had a severe infection in his liver! Once he was given antibiotics, he started the long road to recovery. He's now back in his apartment, very much alive.
@Death at Intervals I think you will find all you need to know if you google Liverpool Pathway for the Dying UK. Their emphasis is on care not putting down, but I feel that their care in this regard is to precisely walk the thin line between the two. Also, I fear it could possibly be mishandled, human nature and ‘care’ being what it is! Also I was shocked to hear that here in UK, older patients being admitted to hospital are automatically labelled as DNR (do not resuscitate) - certainly as an older person myself I would want to be consulted and able to make my own choice on the matter!
And how do you know she was relieved when she died? What means did you have to know that ...?
@@angry1631 Wow! Thank God for that consultant!
@@Dhruv_Dogra Because she smiled before dying and looked so peaceful.
Wat an amazing story! These Sardinian women, the Accabadoras, anticipated by hundreds of years what modern medicine is just now arriving at: medical aid in dying. The Catholic Church was and is, as always, opposed. Which explains why they had to remain a quiet, secret organization.
The Catholic Church hierarchy doesn’t support the compassion of “medical assistance for dying” to allow people to choose a painless death at their time of need.
Mother Teresa would tell the dying in her care that their pain was just “kisses from god.”
One thing the C.C. does support is their many many paedophile Priests and their other child molesting people in their Church hierarchy, like archbishop George Pell, for one of tens of thousands of examples, but that’s another, much different and bigger story.
Sounds like murder to me God decides when it's our time to die
@@hilarybromley3064 You may be just one bad death of a loved one away from coming around to favor medical aid in dying.
God invites us to exercise choice in union with Him, as we think necessary.
Catholic Church is a disgrace
Feels so human . And so autarcic. À village lives naturally with this theme, Not willing to subdue to the religious authorities. This touches me, because it means free spirit.
The different dialaects and pronounciations of their language is a beautiful thing . Some more mainstrean some more closed ❤
Sono di Cagliari, sono nata in quella stessa clinica, clinica Aresu. Mio padre, Alfredo Santolisier (noto artista metafisico) conosceva queste persone perché era membro del circolo "de sos poetas" di Castello, frequentata dai maggiori esponenti della società di quell'epoca, e discorreva con me di quelle questioni.
Ora ho 60 anni, quanti ricordi mi sono tornati alla mente...
A most interesting documentary. Fascinating!
Really interesting and thoughtfu, apart from the priest who looks like he's never had a day's illness in his life claiming it's all made up.
How lovely the Italian language is. ❤️
the old lady speak a very tight dialect.
Greetings from Ireland God gives life and only he can take it. ☘️
That is not Italian, sardinian is not a dialect but a different language
@@donato_donato il sardo è considerata una lingua a tutti gli effetti.
@@lorenafagioli9840 certamente, infatti è quello che ho scritto
A fascinating story, beautifully crafted.
Bien interesante , incluso la música de fondo y la tranquilidad de las personas hablando me relajo mucho .
Happens in hospitals EVERY DAY, if there’s intractable pain as a consequence of a terminal illness, or great difficulty breathing on account of terminal illness, then morphine is given until that patient has no signs or symptoms of pain or difficulty breathing. Sometimes, the amount of morphine (or whatever opiate is given) will cause a more rapid end of life. So be it.
Amen 🙏
It's not exactly the same because the goal is to ease the pain not to kill someone. And also morphine not always leads to quicker death, sometimes can make you live longer because strong pain is very destructive for organism by itself.
Yo detesto la cultura del sufrimiento ,y más asco me dan quienes quieren imponerla a los demás . Todavía tengo en mi mente los alaridos de sufrimiento de mi pobre abuela . Benditas sean las personas misericordiosas que ayudan a morir en paz y sin dolor al enfermo . La cultura del sufrimiento es cruel
El idioma de Sardinia tienes mucha palabras espanolas como "acabadora" 😉
mariaferrero- jakie życie taka śmierć. Pamiętaj o tym. Jedna obecność przy jednej śmierci nie dowodzi niczego. Zbyt szybko wyciągasz błędne wnioski.
@@magdalenamazur2461 No entiendo lo que me dices . Saludos
It should be given as an option to all people suffering from end of life sickness so no one has to suffer.
I've looked after my dying mother and mother in law. It's an extremely heartbreaking experience to hear them screaming in pain. I also did voluntary work in a care home in Italy for 2 years, so ive seen my fare share of suffering before death. But through it all i never heard one person cry out for their father before death. But" MAMMA " i frequently heard whilst in pain and for hours on end before death. Yet i cannot condone euthanasia.
Rural Ireland in the last century had “the mourners”, women paid to lie out the dead, cry and mourn. They were midwives and healers by day. Who knows what they might have done by night if required.
This doc would have had a different tone without the scary music.
Em Portugal chamava -se Alma Grande.
un grazie al professor Saba,perchè esiste ancora la Pietas.Un grazie a tutte le acabadoras coraggiose ed umane che hanno voluto fare un regalo bellissimo ai sofferenti e a Dio che sa che,se lo raggiungiamo un giorno prima attraverso il dolce sogno,nulla togliamo all'economia del creato.Anzi....
Un documental muy interesante!! La eutanasia la decide el enfermo o la persona en plena facultades. Que coraje de estas mujeres, en una época donde faltaba de todo, incluso la educación y ellas ya sabían como..., eran respetadas y hacían lo que pocos nos atreverianos a hacer por un ser querido sufriendo por una enfermedad que no tiene vuelta atrás. Todo esto debería hacernos pensar que decidir en vida y salud que ante estos casos se nos aplique la eutanasia y que nada ni nadie, ni las leyes ni la religión, nos lo puedan prohibir, es algo a lo que como seres humanos tenemos derecho y no a tener que padecer de dolor y sufrimiento para acabar muriendo irremediablemente debido a una enfermedad terminal o a vivir como vegetales el resto de nuestras vidas
@@luisasabinaredondo1674 en el Medio Evo la llamavan brujas y la iglesia catolica las mataron todas 😭
@@luisasabinaredondo1674- odwaga Tych kobiet? Przecież to czarownice!
@@magdalenamazur2461 o español o italiano no hablo ni entiendo otros idiomas
@@magdalenamazur2461😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I lived in Italy for 7 years and had never heard of this. A few days ago my daughter came across this. Very interesting indeed
La Sardegna è geograficamente vicina all'Italia, ma in realtà è un piccolo continente a sé stante.
There is living life and there is existing
Excellent documentary! Thanks
Excelente documental. Gracias
Beautiful documentary. I’m all for this. I should have the right to end my life of suffering. If there isn’t quality of life and just existing why continue to suffer.
That was a fantastic Documentary, I throughly enjoyed it.
The priest spoke with such subtle arrogance. Yes, his people can have an extremely strong will to live -- and STILL be ready for death when the time comes. He says HE would say "pull the plug" when the time comes as though he KNOWS he would say that. What an arrogant assumption, that he's almost godlike himself and knows exactly what death feels like as though he's been there. I found the smile perpetual smile on his face as he spoke to be both condescending and arrogant. If he and the Church wanted to make sure no Accabadora ever helped anyone, all they ever had to do was always make sure THEY were in the room comforting people near death. They weren't there, though, were they?
Subtle ( and not to subtle) arrogance is what they do best!
Je suis bien d'accord avec vous...
Beautiful documentary❤
white captions without a a text backdrop? when are people going to stop doing this? much of the text disappears in the white or black areas of the video, making the film frustratingly incomprehensible. stop it!
In Greece the women also do this in southern Greece and it’s cal Miroloyia , I would think this is from the times of Ancient Greece
Before the development of modern medicine, many people were dying of diseases that we now see as mild, and their death was long and painful so having a tradition like les dames de la douce mort is possible
Very interesting. Thank you
Ok in those days they didnt have the pain relief we have today.
Pain relief does not work in some terrible illnesses. My daughter suffered an awful awful end. We are kinder to animals. Euthanasia by choice is a brave decision.
@@anitastanley8986 The same goes for my father who suffered with Bone Cancer. The pain meds can’t keep up in certain times. He died in 2008, eight years before we got MAID ( medical assistance in death)
If you think pain relief always works you are sadly mistaken
Such a beautiful film. I loved every minute of it. Thank you for sharing
Grazie per questo video
"a matter of seconds" - I'm not sure garrotting is that quick.
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I cannot stand to see people in severe pain, so if there was something I could give them to help them go to sleep without anymore agony I probably would. Not to kill them directly, but to ease them through to the end. This is what happens with morphine used for terminal patients. 🙏
If you have reached the end of your life with no hope of an ending to your suffering, then death comes as a welcome friend
I think I'd rather be suffocated with a pillow than hit in the head with a hammer. Seems they used the same method you'd use on livestock if you don't have a gun.
I would prefer to slip away with the gentle poppy elixir.
Fascinating
Mesmerising documentary, thank you
Thank you for the video. I am from there (Sardinia). To be honest, if you ask a 90-year-old Sardinian about the “Accabadora” most of them have never heard about that. Yes, there were women (sometimes even men) who were healers, used to practice rites with crosses, like in other places of Italy. And I even knew one, even my grandmother knew a lot of them. But this story of the “acabadora” is much much less known. And even those fews elder who confirmed report it in a strange way. Maybe it is an elegant way to say that the family decided to kill him or her.
End their suffering.
Le donne sono da sempre il motore del mondo..
No veo que es lo misterioso de este asunto!
Acaso no es lo que llaman Eutanasia en era moderna?
C est exactement çà.
The Church really caused so much damage, it's time we return to the good old ways of compassion and freedom and wisdom. I hope those priests will face the worst experience at the time of their death.
paramadevi- następna głupia komentatorka. Wyżywasz się na księżach nie widząc dokąd zmierza Twoja dusza😅 prosto do piekła😊😊😊
@@magdalenamazur2461 translate please. If you were able to read and understand my comment in English, you should be able to have the courtesy of responding in the same language.
@@paramadevi3218 you speak of compassion but you yourself wish the worst to others. Why is dat? 🙄
@@mariamontis6922 wishing those priests to experience what they need in order to learn to behave better and stop causing real damage to others is true compassion. It's like a surgical operation to remove a tumor.
Enabling criminals to continue to cause unnecessary damage to innocent people is certainly not compassion.
Si augura a nessuno e sono convinta che tutti più o meno preferiremo non vedere soffrire nessuno per giorni e giorni , è un'esperienza straziante che ti segna per sempre , è in quei momenti che la morte ci apparirebbe come la grande consolatrice,dunque non dire che il buio non fa paura se non sei mai stato nell'oscurità
Every nation on Earth has a tried-and-true tradition of folk medicine that Doctors fear.
Our saints suffered a lot before death, either thru debilitating illnesses or torture, I never heard them asking for death, rather they offered their sufferings for the salvation of souls. But then, that’s why they are saints . . . They took not the easy way out but accepted the sufferings as part of the path to holiness.
For what???
You weren't THERE to hear them ask for ANYTHING AT ALL so who are you???
Indeed. Tremendous ethical and spiritual problems with killing oneself and others.
Not all of us want to be saints
I don’t need you to make that decision for me. It’s just not your place.
Stoics advocated for rationale suicide e.g when seneca chose suicide over suffering
Amazing show
How do you know people are not choosing suicide because of poor health care, poverty, financial stress? You do not.
Meraviglioso documento grazie
I spent years on the Island of Sardinia onboard a ship,,,, it was a Homeport,,, I would love to go live there.
Then do it before it's too late.
Humane in my opinion.
The easy way out is rarely the best way. The death process is deeply spiritual and only the wise women of the world should know when to apply it. It should be taboo, because if it was super mainstream, it would become a weapon. How many elderly parents would be pushed into this by their money grubbing selfish children? Keep valuing narcissism, and then expect things like this to actually work lol.
Utterly fascinating.
Tanti anni fa ho letto un libro che si intitolava "l' accabadora" e raccontava di una vecchina che aveva in uso questa pratica. Sapere di questa realtà, forse crudele, mi lasciò perplessa, perché pensai che e' un rituale molto duro e quindi non so quanto umano
Liberare dalle sofferenze quando non c'è più speranza? Certo credo sia difficile. Ma è una scelta che, se non riuscissi a fare da sola perché non posso più esprimermi, vorrei che qualcuno facesse per me...
Temos o livre arbítrio, mas arcamos com as conseqüências de nossas escolhas. Nao há como fugir...
Se c'è una testimonianza, come puo uno parlare di credenza? La gioia di vivere è la gioia di morire. Chi non sa per cosa valesse la pena di morir non conosce nemmeno una ragion valida per vivere. La credenza non centra e la donna fa sempre ció che é inevitabile. É inevitabile la nascita quanto la morte. Chi lo ignora non ha capito la vita. E appunto i maschi non comprendono, i maschi ignorano due tematiche fondamentali che sono svelati solo davanti agli occhi delle donne
Yo también me iré un veinte de febrero si la divinidad no me ha llevado antes.
2:13 does anyone know where I can find that chorus? Im doing a project which envolve the Abbacadora's story, and I wanted to incorporate that beautiful chant
Roberto had a sweet death RIP.
I think there have allways been this sort of thing in England wher the gp actually cared about his people and families, and the same goes for midwives, in the olden days , I think it wasn’t talked about , and there wasn’t so much regular on administrating drugs . I think it came from a compassionate place and may have been abused but I think it was done out of a good place , nothing to do with god , or the Catholic church
Ich habe eine große Sympathie mit diesem Arzt! Solche Menschen brauchen wir!!Dieser Priester ist die Arroganz in Person!
Der Arzt ist kein Mörder ,ganz im Gegenteil....
Bonjour Marion Maier ...non le pretre n est pas arrogant ...ce qu il dit est juste .....il dit une vérité que vous avez simplement du mal à accepter ! Dieu donne la vie ...Dieu seul l a reprend .
@@jenesaispas....1446ich verneine dein Argument nicht! Ja Gott gibt Leben und Gott nimmt Leben ,doch sehe ich darin ein Gnadenakt darin ,einem Menschen zu erlösen .Zu erlösen in unglaublichem Pein Leid Schmerz , unendliche Schmerzen!
Gerade heut zutage sollte dies ein Thema sein ,der Mensch liegt an Schläuchen und Maschinen nur das er lebt .!! Für Geld!
Ich habe Respekt für jeden Arzt der einem Menschen von Qualen erleichtert ! Dieser Arzt in der Doku ist ein Arzt wie er sein sollte und Gott ist gütig er wird's verstehen!
marionmaler- to Ty jesteś uosobieniem arogancji
@@magdalenamazur2461das Kompliment gebe ich zurück!Du bist die Ignoranz in Person und was machst du wenn du einmal so schwer erkrankt bist ?Kein Opiat ,nichts hilft und du unter grausamsten Bedingungen sterben wirst ,es aber Monate lang dein Siechtum geht? Jaja ,du wirst es geduldig ertragen
@@jenesaispas....1446 Je suis d'acord avec vous.
They are issues with which humans have always struggled from some innuit who to save others left the very old to die on the ice to these ladies in Sardinia. Indeed my father, a British doctor, with consent of someone who used to work for him, at her request and that of her husband, hastened her imminent death and asked us to do the same for him when the time came (not that we needed to and I am not sure that I would - commit murder, interfere with nature - not my believe or style but I understand it). I support the UK's current law - that it is illegal. To change the law is too risky.
Grazie.
Excelente!
Bien por cinforosa por hacer que esas personas no sufrieran más de lo que sufrían , yo siempre es estado de acuerdo con la eutanasia,debe de ser obligatorio en todo él mundo 🌎
La parola "obligatorio" fa paura quanto la morte.
This documentary need better editing, many minutes spent repeating the same information and it is unnecessary lengthy and boring.
You've never in contact with Mediterranean cultures, have you? This is how they talk, repeating the same thing over and over. At first I thought that they repeated things to me because I was a foreigner, but during nearly 30 years here I know this is how they talk to each other as well. You learn patience quickly here.
I don’t think it’s an issue with Mediterranean cultures, it’s that we are asking about personal experiences, therefore they have ti be detailed and at length
The finishers….😢❤
Suffering can be vicarious if offered and united with the suffering of Christ. Vicarious means that it has salvific grace/effect for others. I believe that only God can take life. This practice verges on selfishness on the part of the caregivers and immediate relatives, actually they are not serving for the one who suffered but it is a way to answer their inadequacy to handle pains and to face the reality of suffering - which is actually a part of life.
So are we talking about merciful asphyxiation?
Quando la pietà umama ancora aveva valore...
Now I know where the first INFJ door slam was borne by.
Those old Sicilian ladies had that down to an art
Not Sicilian -Sardinian.
What is INFJ?
Whatever you guys the way that lady slammed that door was all she wrote
haha. I had to rewatch that scene a few times. That was everything!
Per favore non sconvolga l'assetto geografico dei continenti.
34:55 SHE WORE THE SHIRT LOL
Opioids do improve quality of life…
tanx for subtitele farsi
A lot of story comes from the witnesses.
Si chiama accabadora, in Sardegna, forse, ce ne sono ancora. 🇮🇹
At the first glance I thought they are Iranian ladies. I am surprised when Christians are surprised about woman dressing code in Islam, it is what their nuns wear and what Mary peace be upon her wore.
La Sardegna è una società tra le più antiche del mondo non deve sorprendere che abbiano ancora in uso un abbigliamento che ora si usa solo nellle zone prettamente islamiche ,e un'isola che e stata a lungo lontano dalle mode occidentali pervquanto sia in occidente mantiene ancora usi e costumi di una civilta pre industriale
Ce n’est pas soutitrer en français comme le titre dit😢
Dr Shipman.. Hold my beer. 😂 Give them morphine now
Bellissima terstimonianza.
I was shocked by this video l couldn't bear to watch all of it Italy like Ireland is a Catholic country. God is the giver of life and only he can take it.
You and your religious followers have never been able to prove that a god even exists, so until you can do this, why should someone be forced to suffer before they die, when someone can just end the suffering. That kind of suffering serves no purpose and it causes the whole family extreme stress.
Here in Canada, since 2016, we have MAID, medically assistance in dying. This is the type of thing you should see in an enlightened, compassionate, civilized society.
Ireland is NOT a Catholic county, surely enough graves have been found in septic tanks even for the likes of you.
For those that believe no explanation is necessary to those that do not believe no explanation is possible.
Cadê as legendas em Português???
Looks like my retirement plan is clear then
Aucun sous titrage en français !!!
Oh la la, quel drame
La sofferenza può essere vicaria se offerti e uniti con la sofferenza di Cristo. Vicario e vicaria ha grazia salvifica/ effetto per gli altri. Credo che quello solo Dio può togliere la vita. Questa pratica rasenta sull'egoismo la parte di badante efamiliari stretti, in realtà non stanno servendo per chi ha sofferto ma è un modo per rispondere la loro inadeguatezza per gestire i dolori e per affrontare la realtà di sofferenza - quale una parte della vita.
This is wrong.... people playing G9d...
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La prima e l'ultima libertà.
Hi
Homicide.
Many people from Sardinia say that these women never actually existed. Their legend was born because for such a long time, their island was practically cut off from the rest of Italy. No one knows whether there is any truth about it.
they lie to protect her