I also have this, it's 20 years old this year. It was a gift from my office mates when I resigned. It lost one screw driver bit though. Overall, this is one of my favorites SAK !
My original SAK, (and I still have it and it's in great condition) is a Swiss Champion C bought it new in 1984. 40 years old and still in great condition. I don't carry it as much these days, I mostly carry a Tinker Deluxe. I too work in the tech industry, Network Admin, great tool in the server room.
Literally did a video on my Super Tinker last night. It's my wife's gardening tool. My Swiss Champ has been my work EDC for about seven years now. It is not an exaggeration to say it is my third hand.
I just ordered one of these, now I'm even more excited for it to come lol. Also this is the first time I've heard of someone else mention Nightwish, I used to be a big fan! If you like Nightwish, I also highly recommend Epica, they have some great songs and I think they even did some collabs with Nightwish.
Hello, new friend! This might be one of the few Victorinox that has removable, lose able components, but it is CRAZY handy for smaller electronics, like PCs, kids toys, and hobby radio. I have this one and the 41/L, which is more of a Frankenstein combo of the Cybertool and Swiss Champ. Nightwish is the shit. My favorite band, hands down. I returned to it this past year, decades after I first started listening to them, and I still get chills and tears with some songs (read: Ghost Love Score). Cheers to a Nightwish fan. 🍻 Epica was a Pandora suggestion, and I liked their stuff too. Also, Kamelot, more "Lincoln Park" - ish style of Nightwish. Hey man, enjoy that Cybertool. Let me know what you think. 👍
Oh. And your profile Pic is of a helmeted man. What's your ride? I have a Honda ST1100 in the garage, just resurrected it a week ago after three years of storage. 🏍️
Nice, I actually just got back into riding today, its an Indian Scout bobber sixty. also in response to your other reply. YES! Nightwish has some beautiful songs and I forgot just how good they are! My cyber tool is coming today so Ill let you know once I get some use in.@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic
I have a Ranger from 1989. First knife, first multitool. 10 year old me was instantly MacGyver (at least in my head). Currently carry one of the new 'Companion'. Just put some titanium scales on it, looks great now.
My original SAK was a Wenger, that developed floppy blade syndrome so I bought a slide lock Victorinox. Then years later I found a Champ at a Pawn shop which has been fantastic 👍 As an Electronics Tech however a Cybertool would be my dream EDC. They are unfortunately crazy expensive in my country ☹️
I have tried one Wenger, and they just did not seem to have the quality of the Victorinox. Especially the scissors. The Cybertool is very nice, especially for electronics tinkering or career paths, but the price they command even on the used market here in America makes ebay the only place to pick one up at a "reasonable" price.
That was a very good day for me. Nightwish was doing their "Once" tour, and while I much prefer the older albums, Once had some amazing songs (Once, and Ghost Love Score). Nice to see a fellow Nightwish enjoyer! 🍻
Hi, driving friend! I have the M and L (medium and large) versions, with there being four models in total. Very handy for the PC or tech oriented user. 👍
Nice video and also a nice choice of SAK! But there is a mistake about the weight I guess. According to Victorinox it is 153 grams. Except that situation, that's a very informative video and quality content!
My oldest Victorinox is 80s Handyman with no hook. My grandpa gave it to me several years ago and it wasn’t used before. I only added plus scales to it)
40+ years old, and still working, I imagine. Thanks for the story. 🤓 I bought a Spartan on camo for my son, before he was born, while in Germany. When he is of age, he will get a tool that will help him adapt his world to him.
See, I can't tell if you are joking or not, but the scaler may be in the top five used tool on my SChamp. I do miss it on the CTool. See my Short on how the Scaler isn't useless. Lol
I miss the fish scaler too... on both... my Cybertools M and L. I carry a Swisschamp for that reason and sometimes the Cybertool M. The Cybertool L it's inside its box
17 year old model but had the update I see. My 1992 Huntsman used a screw to keep the scissor blades together - kept coming loose and that knife was retired many years ago. Used a basic (no scale tools) knife which had functional scissors and cork screw - both musts! This will be replaced with the Cyber 34 - has all I need
Interesting. Was it a Wenger? I don't think I have seen a screw holding the scissors together. I have three Huntsman on the house and vehicles. Probably the most handy SAK for the size. 👍 Would recommend the 34 or 41. I have both and love them both.
when I opened mine up and saw it appeared to have been riveted for the pliers and scissors, I was actually a little disappointed. a screw can be tightened if it loosens but a rivet is a bit tougher to get tighter
As an generalist tool I agree, but the Cybertool is designed for urban repair & maintenance, whereas the saw/file is a Bushcraft/grooming/mechanical tool.
Oldest I have is Champion C from circa -86, but do not carry it anymore, for same reasons as you but also because it's big and there's no need for such tool nowadays. It stays mostly in home locker for in-house use and for edc it's now classic sd or minichamp alox.
My first Vic was a GAK not an SAK, the old issue model, which I bought in Germany too, whilst stationed there in the British Army, in Herford NRW. I carried that for about 5 years after, 3 of them as a civvy, but lost it - oddly in Germany although I was living in Austria by then - at the 1996 Love Parade dance music festival in Berlin, I think psychoactive substances may have contributed to the loss. My next Vic wasn't until 3 years ago, when I bought a Hiker as it had a similar toolset, and basically the same toolset as the current GAK and Swiss military issue Soldier 08 model, but in a smaller package. SInce then I've bought another 9, the most recent acquisition being the Swisschamp. SAKs are my preferred drug of choice now.
Oh sure, it was the PSYCHOACTIVE DRUG'S fault. Excuses excuses. Lol Its hard to go wrong. They have such a wide variety of toolsets, with barely any deviation in precision and quality, with 100+ years experience, for very reasonable prices to boot? Everyone should have one.
So basically the cyber tool here is just a bit tool added to a tinker deluxe. Lol that’s crazy. Especially considering that the bottle opener and hook both can do the same thing using a socket
Yes, on board, 4 and 5mm nut driver, 8 hits, smaller form factor, longer reach, ball detention retention. But yes, I carry a 1/4 socket and have tried the adapter on the bottle opener. It works, but this is more elegant and further, narrorer reaching. 👍
I had a model 41, but I got rid of it at one time and now I regret it. Previously, she seemed uncomfortable to me, but now I understand what advantages I lost with her ...
I bought this one, then scored a second one for $25 on ebay (I know, right?). Then I bought the L/41 and it is my "not at work EDC". I put emerald green scales on it. 💚
I also have Forester and Centurion of 2000 year of manufacturing. They are also given by my grandpa. The Ceturion used to be my EDC knife for years (2000 - 2010). I didn’t even know what is EDC then 😂
Funny, how now "EDC" is a marketable thing, when humans have had to carry objects like stone knives, belts, and staffs, for hundreds if not thousands of years. We really do like to think we are special.
In what way would you say they are conservative? Seems to me they make a wide variety of makes and models, and now even do watches/luggage/kitchen tools/ect. Of course...they did cancel like 21 models this year... 🤔
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic They are conservative in that they do not want to introduce new tools, according to the times. Let's say: a bottle opener, could already cooperate with a can opener (which they already did a long time ago)
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic The same Phillips screwdriver could have been made under the 1/4 standard or as Gerber did, and now everyone repeats this, but not Victorinox.
@@arvidlindstrom6294 Well, we see here they introduced a fantastic driver and bit drawer on this model. Which was...released....two decades ago... Lol. I think it would be an easy win to replace the corkscrew with a 4mm bit driver. I kinda want to cut a CS off and have someone tack weld a 4mm driver in its place.
your cybertool m34 is in a massive way better shape than mine.bought it in 2000......should check the nearest vicotrinox deler , seed if i can get some parts again and realign some as well...comapred to yours, mine seem from the WW1.
Sounds like your has more "character" than mine. 👍 You could try Victorinox's lifetime warranty repair, send it in and they should replace the scales, scale tools, and sharpen/lube it. Or, ebay has any color scale you'd want.
@@Brentw182 Hello Friend! I EDC the Swiss Champ, which is maybe 1mm thinner than the Cybertool L. The CTL has the possibility of loosing a bit, which makes it something I'm not willing to risk for the benefit of the company I work for's benefit. I beleive there are 8 or 9 available bits, but it comes with four.
@@Brentw182 As far as "too large to pocket edc", I'd say no, with the caveat that if you find a way to prevent it from going to the bottom of your pocket, then you can carry it. This could be a clip, like I added to my Swiss Champ, or the $20 swissqlip, or lanyard. If it gets to the bottom of your pocket, I find it want to turn horizontally and it gets intrusive.
My understanding is they were discontinued a while ago, maybe ten years. Amazon has them for a premium, but I find them on ebay used at more affordable prices. What do you think of it so far? 🤓
Good report. You can buy the scale tools on ebay, or, send it in to Victorinox and they will replace them and clean/oil your tool up for you. Given the age, you should include a note saying you do NOT want a replacement knife, just fix up your old one, due to sentimental reasons.
They are kinda low key amazing. I don't doubt the plier based multitools are capable, but they keep getting rotated out of my EDC, because the Victorinox pliers just seem to do what I need them to.
I don't think it is useless, but the Internet does. I find plenty of uses for it, and would much rather have a useful price of metal there than a.....non...useful... piece... Also good for snapping zipties by overotating them until failure, assuming you can get the hook under them.
I also have this, it's 20 years old this year. It was a gift from my office mates when I resigned. It lost one screw driver bit though. Overall, this is one of my favorites SAK !
A great gift! Very unique and handy. Your mates must have held you in high regard. 🫡
just got one as a gift from my parents. no idea the model was this old!
Victorinox sell new bits individually.
My original SAK, (and I still have it and it's in great condition) is a Swiss Champion C bought it new in 1984. 40 years old and still in great condition. I don't carry it as much these days, I mostly carry a Tinker Deluxe. I too work in the tech industry, Network Admin, great tool in the server room.
Literally did a video on my Super Tinker last night. It's my wife's gardening tool. My Swiss Champ has been my work EDC for about seven years now. It is not an exaggeration to say it is my third hand.
I just ordered one of these, now I'm even more excited for it to come lol. Also this is the first time I've heard of someone else mention Nightwish, I used to be a big fan! If you like Nightwish, I also highly recommend Epica, they have some great songs and I think they even did some collabs with Nightwish.
Hello, new friend!
This might be one of the few Victorinox that has removable, lose able components, but it is CRAZY handy for smaller electronics, like PCs, kids toys, and hobby radio. I have this one and the 41/L, which is more of a Frankenstein combo of the Cybertool and Swiss Champ.
Nightwish is the shit. My favorite band, hands down. I returned to it this past year, decades after I first started listening to them, and I still get chills and tears with some songs (read: Ghost Love Score). Cheers to a Nightwish fan. 🍻
Epica was a Pandora suggestion, and I liked their stuff too. Also, Kamelot, more "Lincoln Park" - ish style of Nightwish.
Hey man, enjoy that Cybertool. Let me know what you think. 👍
Oh. And your profile Pic is of a helmeted man. What's your ride? I have a Honda ST1100 in the garage, just resurrected it a week ago after three years of storage. 🏍️
Nice, I actually just got back into riding today, its an Indian Scout bobber sixty. also in response to your other reply. YES! Nightwish has some beautiful songs and I forgot just how good they are! My cyber tool is coming today so Ill let you know once I get some use in.@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic
Very nice!! The nut driver is awesome.
Handy, for PCs. Won't take too much torque. Genius integration into a bit driver.
I have a Ranger from 1989. First knife, first multitool. 10 year old me was instantly MacGyver (at least in my head).
Currently carry one of the new 'Companion'. Just put some titanium scales on it, looks great now.
Nice. I believe I have the ranger as well, with the scissors/saw/file? They are so handy and affordable compared to Leatherman's offerings. 👍
My original SAK was a Wenger, that developed floppy blade syndrome so I bought a slide lock Victorinox. Then years later I found a Champ at a Pawn shop which has been fantastic 👍
As an Electronics Tech however a Cybertool would be my dream EDC. They are unfortunately crazy expensive in my country ☹️
I have tried one Wenger, and they just did not seem to have the quality of the Victorinox. Especially the scissors.
The Cybertool is very nice, especially for electronics tinkering or career paths, but the price they command even on the used market here in America makes ebay the only place to pick one up at a "reasonable" price.
Victorinox and nightwish in 1 day. Must been an awesome day!
That was a very good day for me. Nightwish was doing their "Once" tour, and while I much prefer the older albums, Once had some amazing songs (Once, and Ghost Love Score). Nice to see a fellow Nightwish enjoyer! 🍻
Built and worked on a lot of PCs... Didn't know what I was missing!
Hi, driving friend!
I have the M and L (medium and large) versions, with there being four models in total. Very handy for the PC or tech oriented user. 👍
Nice video and also a nice choice of SAK! But there is a mistake about the weight I guess. According to Victorinox it is 153 grams. Except that situation, that's a very informative video and quality content!
Thanks for the compliments, I'm a new channel and feedback is appreciated. 👍
My oldest Victorinox is 80s Handyman with no hook. My grandpa gave it to me several years ago and it wasn’t used before. I only added plus scales to it)
40+ years old, and still working, I imagine. Thanks for the story. 🤓 I bought a Spartan on camo for my son, before he was born, while in Germany. When he is of age, he will get a tool that will help him adapt his world to him.
I see a Cybertool in my future. It’s a really innovative SAK compared to the Swisschamp. But I hate to give up my fish scaler😅.
See, I can't tell if you are joking or not, but the scaler may be in the top five used tool on my SChamp. I do miss it on the CTool. See my Short on how the Scaler isn't useless. Lol
I miss the fish scaler too... on both... my Cybertools M and L. I carry a Swisschamp for that reason and sometimes the Cybertool M. The Cybertool L it's inside its box
17 year old model but had the update I see. My 1992 Huntsman used a screw to keep the scissor blades together - kept coming loose and that knife was retired many years ago. Used a basic (no scale tools) knife which had functional scissors and cork screw - both musts! This will be replaced with the Cyber 34 - has all I need
Interesting. Was it a Wenger? I don't think I have seen a screw holding the scissors together.
I have three Huntsman on the house and vehicles. Probably the most handy SAK for the size. 👍
Would recommend the 34 or 41. I have both and love them both.
when I opened mine up and saw it appeared to have been riveted for the pliers and scissors, I was actually a little disappointed. a screw can be tightened if it loosens but a rivet is a bit tougher to get tighter
I prefer the Cybertool L as it has the saw and the file which gives it a bit more versatility.
Oh yes, I have one of those as well. 🤓👍 Video to be made....eventually... The used prices on Cybertools is crazy currently.
As an generalist tool I agree, but the Cybertool is designed for urban repair & maintenance, whereas the saw/file is a Bushcraft/grooming/mechanical tool.
Oldest I have is Champion C from circa -86, but do not carry it anymore, for same reasons as you but also because it's big and there's no need for such tool nowadays. It stays mostly in home locker for in-house use and for edc it's now classic sd or minichamp alox.
@@Big_J The Champion....is that the Swiss Champ without the pliers? Or the big 111mm?
My first Vic was a GAK not an SAK, the old issue model, which I bought in Germany too, whilst stationed there in the British Army, in Herford NRW. I carried that for about 5 years after, 3 of them as a civvy, but lost it - oddly in Germany although I was living in Austria by then - at the 1996 Love Parade dance music festival in Berlin, I think psychoactive substances may have contributed to the loss. My next Vic wasn't until 3 years ago, when I bought a Hiker as it had a similar toolset, and basically the same toolset as the current GAK and Swiss military issue Soldier 08 model, but in a smaller package. SInce then I've bought another 9, the most recent acquisition being the Swisschamp. SAKs are my preferred drug of choice now.
Oh sure, it was the PSYCHOACTIVE DRUG'S fault. Excuses excuses. Lol
Its hard to go wrong. They have such a wide variety of toolsets, with barely any deviation in precision and quality, with 100+ years experience, for very reasonable prices to boot? Everyone should have one.
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic Yep one or two but not everyone should have 10 or 11...
@@simonh6371 Not everyone. Only most of everyone. 😃
So basically the cyber tool here is just a bit tool added to a tinker deluxe. Lol that’s crazy. Especially considering that the bottle opener and hook both can do the same thing using a socket
Yes, on board, 4 and 5mm nut driver, 8 hits, smaller form factor, longer reach, ball detention retention. But yes, I carry a 1/4 socket and have tried the adapter on the bottle opener. It works, but this is more elegant and further, narrorer reaching. 👍
I had a model 41, but I got rid of it at one time and now I regret it. Previously, she seemed uncomfortable to me, but now I understand what advantages I lost with her ...
I bought this one, then scored a second one for $25 on ebay (I know, right?). Then I bought the L/41 and it is my "not at work EDC". I put emerald green scales on it. 💚
I also have Forester and Centurion of 2000 year of manufacturing. They are also given by my grandpa. The Ceturion used to be my EDC knife for years (2000 - 2010). I didn’t even know what is EDC then 😂
Funny, how now "EDC" is a marketable thing, when humans have had to carry objects like stone knives, belts, and staffs, for hundreds if not thousands of years. We really do like to think we are special.
Great review! You confirm that Victorinox is one of the best multifunctional tools. The only thing I don't like about them is their conservatism...
In what way would you say they are conservative? Seems to me they make a wide variety of makes and models, and now even do watches/luggage/kitchen tools/ect.
Of course...they did cancel like 21 models this year... 🤔
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic They are conservative in that they do not want to introduce new tools, according to the times. Let's say: a bottle opener, could already cooperate with a can opener (which they already did a long time ago)
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic The same Phillips screwdriver could have been made under the 1/4 standard or as Gerber did, and now everyone repeats this, but not Victorinox.
@@arvidlindstrom6294 Well, we see here they introduced a fantastic driver and bit drawer on this model. Which was...released....two decades ago... Lol. I think it would be an easy win to replace the corkscrew with a 4mm bit driver. I kinda want to cut a CS off and have someone tack weld a 4mm driver in its place.
your cybertool m34 is in a massive way better shape than mine.bought it in 2000......should check the nearest vicotrinox deler , seed if i can get some parts again and realign some as well...comapred to yours, mine seem from the WW1.
Sounds like your has more "character" than mine. 👍 You could try Victorinox's lifetime warranty repair, send it in and they should replace the scales, scale tools, and sharpen/lube it. Or, ebay has any color scale you'd want.
What do you EDC now? Are there still 9 different bits for these? It seems they only come with four. Is the Large version too big to pocket EDC?
@@Brentw182 Hello Friend!
I EDC the Swiss Champ, which is maybe 1mm thinner than the Cybertool L. The CTL has the possibility of loosing a bit, which makes it something I'm not willing to risk for the benefit of the company I work for's benefit.
I beleive there are 8 or 9 available bits, but it comes with four.
@@Brentw182 As far as "too large to pocket edc", I'd say no, with the caveat that if you find a way to prevent it from going to the bottom of your pocket, then you can carry it. This could be a clip, like I added to my Swiss Champ, or the $20 swissqlip, or lanyard. If it gets to the bottom of your pocket, I find it want to turn horizontally and it gets intrusive.
I just bought one of these, I think they discontinued it since I can't find it on the website
My understanding is they were discontinued a while ago, maybe ten years. Amazon has them for a premium, but I find them on ebay used at more affordable prices. What do you think of it so far? 🤓
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic I need to get it in the mail. I bought it for $80 New supposedly
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic just made a video of my initial reaction. It’s not good at all but yeah
@@Boymoder420 The KNIFE isn't good, or the video? Your first few will be....enlightening. It gets easier with practice.
My original swiss army knife is over 30 years old. Missing the tweezers and toothpick and the scales are very worn. But otherwise it's fine
Good report. You can buy the scale tools on ebay, or, send it in to Victorinox and they will replace them and clean/oil your tool up for you. Given the age, you should include a note saying you do NOT want a replacement knife, just fix up your old one, due to sentimental reasons.
more knives need the pliers 👍
They are kinda low key amazing. I don't doubt the plier based multitools are capable, but they keep getting rotated out of my EDC, because the Victorinox pliers just seem to do what I need them to.
The parcel hook isn’t the most useless tool as if can be used to pull and tighten cables. Think outside the box man.
I don't think it is useless, but the Internet does. I find plenty of uses for it, and would much rather have a useful price of metal there than a.....non...useful...
piece... Also good for snapping zipties by overotating them until failure, assuming you can get the hook under them.
You should get the XLT for a precious Victorinox to admire and not use.
I'd rather make this month's mortgage payment. That HAS to be like storing a VHS cassette in your pocket.