Good to know they “beefed up” the gaskets and manifold bolts for the 6.4… And my 2020 Power Wagon sounds the exact same from day 1 (injectors on these trucks are loud also). Can’t wait for your comparison vid.
I recommend if you have a Ram Hemi 5.7 or 6.4 to Upgrade the oil pump. Idling these trucks for long periods of time is not good for the rear lifters and Cam. This is because they don't have enough oil pressure at Idle RPM causing the infamous "Hemi tick". Hellcat oil pumps and High Performance oil pumps from Melling is a great recommendation.
Excellent Video and a big THANK YOU! as I took my new 2002 Ram 2500 6.4L Hemi to three different dealerships over past week as I was certain there was something wrong. Had exact same sound as your video and it does go away after the engine gets warmed up. Very high pitch, hollow aluminum like ticking sound at start up. Last about 2-4 min. All thee Ram techs told me it takes about 3-5 min for the oil to lubricate the entire big block Hemi engine and this is NOT the "Hemi Tick" or manifold exhaust leak. My truck had 4 miles on it as I was first and only test drive at dealership and I did not hear it as sales person did a remote start from inside the dealership and let it run before we I test drove it. Makes total sense now.
Good informative post. I have a 2018 Challenger R/T that sounds very much like this...a subtle metallic-type noise but not quite the typical exhaust leak. Dead quiet when listening from the top side other than normal injector noises. Used full 5W-20 synth from 1K every ~3500 miles. The only time it does a cold start lifter rattle is if I run it from cold start and shut down before the oil temp reaches 130. 100% of my restarts after that will rattle for a few seconds.
that metallic whistling, dragging a tin can on the ground sound. When I first brought home my 2021 ram 2500 I was so turned off by the noise that I almost didnt want to drive the truck. I've gotten used to it but I think its definitely much noisier than it should be. Otherwise I've loved the truck for the last year
I think the ticking you're hearing down low is being generated/amplified by that particular exhaust. The same hemi 5.7 is used in 2018 ram and 2022 ram 5th gens, but the 5th gens have different exhaust and definitely louder tick under the truck right from the factory. Just comparing my brand new 5th gen to another family members brand new 4th gen classic.
I mean potentially! it does seem like the fifth gen 6.4's do have an odd metallic sounding exhaust under the truck. my 4th gen ram was a little ticky but didn't have sound this truck does. Nothing wrong either way just thought it was interesting!
My PW sound just like yours doesnt bother me a bit! My old 5.7 had the manifold bolts break causing a leak but was a cheapish fix. Got my truck back same day. u are correct the knock was loudest w cold engine.
@@GettysGarage My neighbor just bought a Ford 7.3 gasser and it sounds so much nicer than my 2020 6.4L goes better too at least mine uses more gas lol.
The "mechanical squeeky resonance" you are hearing on start up is the catalytic converters warming up to temp. Then when the truck is warm you will be hearing the incredibly loud injector noise from the higher performance injectors on these engines. You are not hearing lifter noise on these engines at all, they are roller hydraulic lifters. Maybe a little rocker noise on an engine with some miles on it, but not lifter noise. I am a regional MOPAR tech rep with Chrysler 30+ years experience. The 6.4L hemi is superior to the 5.7 in just about every way. The 5.7 is really just a SUV duty engine not meant for severe service like the 6.4L truck engine.
Hey, I’ve noticed an “intermittent” noise on my 6.4 scat pack. Most prominent at idle from a cold start. I’ve got a video if you wouldn’t mind taking the time to listen?
By your description it sounds like your exhaust manifolds are not sealing when the engine is cold then seal when they have come up to temp. Always shut off your EDS when the engine is cold so that the cylinders heat up uniformly. @@Avery5B
I’ve gotta 5.7 hemi it doesn’t make any ticking noise… but about a year ago I had the manifold bolts to break… it’s the Chinese steel they made the bolts from that caused that… but if that lifter noise gets louder I’d definitely check it out… you don’t want it to jack up your cam… thanks for your videos buddy…
I just had the gaskets and bolts replaced on my '13 Power Wagon 5.7 L. I can attest that my truck went from very quiet to ticking on start-up. Once the truck warmed up, it got quiet again. I left it that way for a while and it got slowly worse. Think I even lost some ponies from it. 4 bolts were broken. 1 bolt broke at the outside edge of the manifold, so there was something to bite onto to remove. The other 3 broke off at the block, requiring hex nut be rosette welded to the ends, so they could be removed safely. The new hardware is stainless, so hopefully it holds up better.
Well good news is the 6.4's come with stainless and it shocks me they haven't done that with the 5.7's lol its a very common issue. Not the worst issue, but still annoying
I’ve owned many trucks over the years and they all have had there own unique sound. The Hemi is no different. I bought a new 1993 Mazda B2600i pickup.I was sure there was something wrong with the engine because it had a very loud ticking noise. I was assured it was normal. At 330,000 miles, it needed all new seals so I sold it. As far as I know, it’s still going. Don’t be fooled by all the hype about the Hemi tick. This is one really tough engine.
Exactly, the more I learn about these hemi engines the more I realize how strong they are. I was guilty at first believing the tick hype but I think its not as common as they say.
I bought a new 2022 Dodge Challenger R/T 5.7L Hemi June 2022 - my husband and I spent 10 years saving for our dream car. I noticed there was a ticking noise from the engine which I thought was the "HEMI tick." It was a slight ticking noise at cold start coming from the passenger side and then after a few seconds it would stop ticking. In August, 2022, we had put 2000 miles on the car and we were on a weekend road trip. The engine started to make loud noises and started shaking. Then the engine and electrical light turned. Then suddenly, the motor stalled and shut off while in motion on the highway going 80 mph!!!! 😳 😱 🤬 My husband had to drive by using strange maneuvers, putting in N with brakes and pumping the gas, when it idled it would shut off. Had to do this all the way to the dealer since the tow truck would have been late by an hour and the service department would have been closed. The dealer said it was a cylinder 5 misfire - which ended up a valve dropping and cracking the cylinder - they had to change the long block and the intake manifold, due to catastrophic damage. One of the techs insinuated it was the MDS system that closes 4 valves at highway speed to reduce fuel consumption. Till this date, the car is still at the dealer, which is an hour away from our house. I found out there is a class action lawsuit against FCA due to the 5.7 and 6.4 HEMI that are not supercharged, having issues with the MDS engines stalling issues which report from NHTSA of the same thing happening to people on the highway, which is a huge safety issue, especially while driving at highway speeds. I didn’t know about the Class Action because it wasn’t showing up on the Internet until late June once a complaint was filed. If I would’ve known I would’ve not purchased a car. This is my daily driver and my husband and I are seriously scared for my safety. Dodge doesn't want to do a buyback and I am having to get an attorney involved because it is not reasonable a new car has these issues. I hope this helps your viewers and beware about buying any HEMI products!!!!
My 6.4 Hemi in a 2022 Ram 2500 sounds exactly like that. I feel like some of the noise is the heat shields over the exhaust manifolds. They are made of very thin metal.
I run rockblokz mud flaps. You can order Extra wide ones. I think that could really help with those little rocks. I don't know an extreme amount about the 6.4. I do want a 3500 dually with one. Maybe on day. I owned an 04 And 08 5.7 Hemi Dually. Wouldn't win races pulling trailers especially being detuned to 330hp in that application but rock solid reliable. Great videos. Look forward to the next.
Ya man the research I've done so far on the 6.4 is showing that these engines are no joke. Built to last which is nice to see! And ya I think I need some bigger flaps
I have heard, but never tested, that if you change fuel injectors, you can get rid of that really tinny, metallic tick. I wonder if that is true or folk law. Just a thought. Love the videos, keep them rolling!
I just bought a 2019 6.4 an I was shocked when it said use 0w40 oil seems really thin for my liking the 40w oil good but just seems to thin with 0w. I'm old school an have raced an built engins most of my life an have used 10w40 Quaker state or 20w50 with stp for added zinc an have never had a failure issues of any kind. So when I did oil in the 6.4 I used mobil 1 040 with stp synthetic an it made a tone of difference in the engine noise so smooth an quiet now. I think that's why the lifers are failing they need more lubrication. I have a 05 5.4 triton all original with 320'000 miles on it an I use Quaker state 530 an stp that's all it's had put in it an it runs smooth an quiet. So the proof is in the puddin
Lucky for my son's 2016 1500 5.7 it's been two exhaust manifold leaks .. my other son's 2017 1500 5.7 is fine.. my 2014 6.4 is same as ours .. avoid long idle time use only the synthetic oil the truck came with. Use Wolverine heating pads on the oil pans due living above the 55th. Which helps with less idle time.
I put 140,000 miles on my 2012 5.7 and now 20,000 miles on my 2022 6.4. Never heard a 'tick' yet. Regular oil changes an no extended idling and I doubt you'll hear the 'tick' on your Hemi either.
I was living on Vancouver island for the last couple years and yes rust is much less of an issue. I remember getting my ram 1500 safetied coming from Ontario and it was oil sprayed twice a year and the mechanic couldn't believe how much oil was under it just to prevent rust.
@@GettysGaragesame thing here! My brother is a mechanic back on PEI (where I am from) and his first time out west, he couldn't believe how clean rigs are here.
I put on the factory ram side steps the flat wide ones they save a lot of road trash from hitting the paint Had them on my 14 ram 230000 km later no surface rust drove every winter must have in my opinion
They do but I'm always worried they actually gather road crap. Either way I think bigger mud flaps may help lol eventually I'll probably through some rock slider on this truck and that will probably help!
Bought a 2023 Rebel with the 6.4 and did not hear this noise when I test drove it and bought it. 2 days later I started it up and swore I had a loose belt. I absolutely hate that my truck sounds THIS BAD at startup. I wish I never bought it but can't afford the depreciation hit I would take selling it this soon.
Not really, MDS system is rarely on in this truck and I talked to some dodge mechanics at the dealer for a good amount of time about yhis issue and they swear that the MDS issue is not the issue. Obviously, it can fail but I'm not worried.
Yes, I wonder if the idle “shake” is related to the active harmonic dampers on the new frame. My 2016 PW didn’t have this. Not really a problem, reminds on an old 1971 big block Chevy I used to own.
Just bought a brand new 300s with a 5.7 and have been going crazy looking for an exhaust leak, I've put it on a lift. You're video brings me some peace of mind. However I have noticed it seems to be slightly louder in the driver side exhaust. for rust in Illinois I soak down my underbody with Fluid Film before winter..
those hemi's do love their exhaust leaks. but I have a 5.7 in my old ram 1500 and I was never sure if I was hearing a tick or exhaust leak or if I was imagining the whole thing and the engine was fine lol
@@colbiecolbie6979 hey I just picked up my 22 pw did the aforementioned exhaust bolt in and react well with the sensors and stuff? I’m not looking for piles of noise or anything, like you, just don’t like the big box in the wheel well!
@@mtbxc3rocks yes. Absolutely,i installed myself with had tools , very easy. Leave everything somewhat loose ,adjust to your liking ,tighten it up done. Note : i did it before i drove it in winter conditions. So everthing came apart easy. I dont winter drive it still looks new. Only other thing i did was a k and n filter. No cold air , just filter.
I used Royal Purple, and it's not that it went away completely but it did quiet down quite a bit. Don't ask me why or how, but around the 500km to 1000km mark it quieted down
thanks!!!! have you tested the lucas UPPER CYLINDER LUBRICANT? this really silences almost 50% of the noise, i really dont know why or how this work, this worked on my ram 2500 5.7
100% worth, I'm going to go with air lift and they have cool bags that go in the coils and just add some payload ability. Maybe like 200 bucks. And can take like 1500 lbs of payload
I just recently got my classic ram.. Is it a good idea to put the truck in neutral when im at red lights. Will it save a little bit of fuel. Can i put it in neutral while moving?? Thanks
Redline 0w-40’and srt filter will help save the hemi . I dumped the factory fill at 1000 miles and went right to redline . Changed it again at 5k and 5k oil changeds since then . My 21 power wagon is alot quieter than most 6.4’s I’ve seen . Currently at 14k and love the truck
@@michaellarrick8881 there is a app called gas manager . I’ve kept track since day one . Mileage is the same as the day I bought it . Today it has a s&b intake , magnaflow exhaust and 35’s . Corrected speedometer with alpha obd2
Recently I just bought a 2019 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi it has a small tick but it doesn't bother me I was running 87 octane I didn't realize that the 5.7 Hemi required 89 octane so far the engine does runs smoother and seem to be little quieter.
mehh, I mean I ran 87 in my old 2017 ram 1500. When towing I would put in 94 but other then that the regular fuel seemed to be fine. I did read that they recommend 89 but I didn't
I have a 2020 PW and i can't turn off a/c. If i push the a/c button it turn off but i can hear the compressor ticking every 10-15 secs which is my other concern. Why cant i turn it off fully??? The vents are not in defrost position. Does Yours do this too? Thank you
I’ve been searching for the cause of that pinging metallic sound for over a year on my 2021 and can’t get a straight answer from anyone. Please let us know if you find out what it is. I will add that over the past year I have heard it stop completely three times but comes back on the next start up. Puzzling to say the least.
I think someone mentioned it has to do with the injectors on this engine. I've noticed when driving very slow the sound goes away and then once stopped again it comes back. which would be consistent with injector sounds. either way apparently it's completely normal!
another commenter is a 30 year mopar mechanic and he said its the cat warming up. Then once the cat is warmed you hear the high flow injectors. Makes sense, but I dont know for sure
I think it might have to do with all the hemi engines having pushrods and not overhead cams. The 7.3 Ford motor also makes a similar ticking noise as well.
Hey My 2019 sounds the same as most others. But do you get that once in a while get the puff of blue smoke? I heard it is also prevalent in new Hemi’s.
Check out Reignited-Cycle and Automotive, he does a full video on hemi tick and has some great info on 6.4 hemi in 2500 trucks. Headers for power wagons are stupid expensive but may be the best alternative. Nice wagon btw
I did both exhaust manifolds, had multiple broken studs and my truck still ticks similiar to that, it seems to be on the driver side, been worried about the hemi tick but it doesnt seem to be getting worse or louder that I can notice for the past 6 months
My 2020 POWER WAGON 6.4 HEMI HAD THE LIFTER TICK BUT I'VE RAN MID GRADE FUEL PRETTY CONSISTENT OCASIONAL HI GRADE FUEL AND THE (TICK) IS OR HAS STOPED SO A HIGHER OCTANE FUEL CURED THE TICK
I wonder about putting the rubber seal that comes with aftermarket fender flares, i just put them on my sister in-law's Tacoma and was thinking about doing it to my PW.
You can try doing ppf just on the side rear. Some people like to get a clear bra which is ppf to just protect the front of the vehicle since that wear most of the scratches happen. In your case you can do just do rear sides so that it’s cost effective. Ppf on an entire truck can be pretty expensive. Ceramic pro is also an option.
More lifter issues on these 6.4s than the 5.7s. Oh well that's what the warranty is for I suppose. Real nice truck here. I've run the magic bottle solution for a few oil changes, quiets up the 5.7 a bit. Liqui Moly Ceratec you can get it off Amazon. 117k km on my 5.7 here now and kicked it out of a dealer to a private shop now. Should try 3M automotive film under those fender flares and mudguards. My mudguards with all that frozen slush hanging off them and vibrating actually ate through the clear and paint right down to the metal. Chrysler Canada had me pay a good faith warranty deductible 200 bucks for the auto body shop to fix it up. Pretty sure they knew they would not make the corrosion warranty and they would have paid more down the road. Anyways auto body shop put the film underneath the mud guards at my request.
Side steps/running boards might help, believe it or not, they catch a lot that the flaps don't. You can get offroad styled ones too, you don't have to get the city slicker style.
@@GettysGarage I run the 75A sliders and live in Montana were roads are bad too. I have the HD mopar mud flaps and those combined with the sliders have not had an issue in two winters.
I run bulletproof wheel to wheel steps they are a rock slider style step . Full coverage not salt/ mud comes up . The rocks will wear away at the paint but so will the flares themselves on an old truck I took the flares off then linex’d the spot and reinstalled . Can get a spray can for like 20-30$ from Canadian tire .
Running boards would help with keeping stones and sand away from the box and cils. But you got like that look. I always have running boards. I’m 54 and always had better success from stone chips and rusting. While other trucks that don’t have them seems to chip and rust more. My thoughts.
100% they do keep the rock and road grim down but that's also what I was hoping these mud flaps would do lol. I probably need bigger flaps but they all ran for 500 bucks. expensive things!
I had an 18 2500 6.4 Hemi, was a good truck, but the the Hemi only has 400 ft lbs of torque, where the 6.7 Cummins has 900 ft lbs, and it makes a huge difference when towing
I traded in my 2018 Ram 2500 6.4 on a 2021 Ford F-350 7.3. I haven’t looked back since & luv the 7.3! The fact that you recommend not idling a work truck engine is acknowledging a design flaw! Work trucks are supposed to idle in the field especially doing work !
I agree, we have several ford 6.2s that spend more than half their lives idling on job sites. The 7.3 in my personal truck seems good so far. The 10 speed can be a little wonky but otherwise all is well.
If what you said is true..I’m putting a supercharger on my truck..lol..I have. 2016 2500 and change my oil every 7500 miles..not kilometers..Mobil 1 0w-40 and not a tick to be heard..and Mobil 1 filter also..
it seems like that's just the normal sound of the 6.4. but premium fuel eh, unfortunately my pockets aren't that deep. I do however always run premium when towing, figured it's worth when the engine is working hard lol
@@GettysGarage I usually burn through 120 gallons of diesel, and up to $1k in gas per month so it all becomes a blur.😂 I was misfiring on the 6.4, and my boss on his 5.7 on regular. I changed my plugs, and we both went premium.
I heard just the opposite of what you said..trunk engines can’t take the boost like the car engine ..that’s why the car engine has a super charger on it..the bottom end of engines are different..example..truck engine has 2 bolt mains on bottom end and car has 4 bolt mains..that’s why they take the boost of a supercharger..this is what I heard..I have never take a Hemi engine apart..so don’t shoot the messenger..lol
Love how you and Sky at Reignited had the same type of video. Check him out as you are on the right track with “The HEMI tick” - ua-cam.com/users/13motorsports I have the 5.7 and Im always worried about it and listening to its ticks. I had to change out 1-2 exhaust manifold bolts but otherwise I’m good with 78k miles.
dont understand people buying a 3/4 ton with a 6.4 gas engine when youd pay the same money for a 6.7 cummins better gas milage and more power and can pull alot more and will run alot lot longer 6.4 is great in the durangos and challengers tho
Good to know they “beefed up” the gaskets and manifold bolts for the 6.4… And my 2020 Power Wagon sounds the exact same from day 1 (injectors on these trucks are loud also). Can’t wait for your comparison vid.
Wednesday this week I'll be dropping my comparison video between the 5.7 and 6.4! there are some pretty big differences.
@@GettysGarage I wonder if you watch this and let me know if this is a lifter tick... ua-cam.com/video/2ICnxl1LpB8/v-deo.html
I recommend if you have a Ram Hemi 5.7 or 6.4 to Upgrade the oil pump. Idling these trucks for long periods of time is not good for the rear lifters and Cam. This is because they don't have enough oil pressure at Idle RPM causing the infamous "Hemi tick". Hellcat oil pumps and High Performance oil pumps from Melling is a great recommendation.
Yep that and Johnson 2356 lifters with the hv pump works
Excellent Video and a big THANK YOU! as I took my new 2002 Ram 2500 6.4L Hemi to three different dealerships over past week as I was certain there was something wrong. Had exact same sound as your video and it does go away after the engine gets warmed up. Very high pitch, hollow aluminum like ticking sound at start up. Last about 2-4 min. All thee Ram techs told me it takes about 3-5 min for the oil to lubricate the entire big block Hemi engine and this is NOT the "Hemi Tick" or manifold exhaust leak. My truck had 4 miles on it as I was first and only test drive at dealership and I did not hear it as sales person did a remote start from inside the dealership and let it run before we I test drove it. Makes total sense now.
Great video i actually like how 6.4L HEMI perfectly sounds old school !!!
Good informative post. I have a 2018 Challenger R/T that sounds very much like this...a subtle metallic-type noise but not quite the typical exhaust leak. Dead quiet when listening from the top side other than normal injector noises. Used full 5W-20 synth from 1K every ~3500 miles. The only time it does a cold start lifter rattle is if I run it from cold start and shut down before the oil temp reaches 130. 100% of my restarts after that will rattle for a few seconds.
that metallic whistling, dragging a tin can on the ground sound. When I first brought home my 2021 ram 2500 I was so turned off by the noise that I almost didnt want to drive the truck. I've gotten used to it but I think its definitely much noisier than it should be. Otherwise I've loved the truck for the last year
I think the ticking you're hearing down low is being generated/amplified by that particular exhaust. The same hemi 5.7 is used in 2018 ram and 2022 ram 5th gens, but the 5th gens have different exhaust and definitely louder tick under the truck right from the factory. Just comparing my brand new 5th gen to another family members brand new 4th gen classic.
I mean potentially! it does seem like the fifth gen 6.4's do have an odd metallic sounding exhaust under the truck. my 4th gen ram was a little ticky but didn't have sound this truck does. Nothing wrong either way just thought it was interesting!
Happy I came by this video. Yea engine bey sounds great but inside that wheel well... that sound had me going
I just bought a new PowerWagon, I love it. Keep the info coming my man.
Awesome trucks eh! I love it
I watched your video months before, which was good. But now I’m having second thoughts about Ram all together
they aren't bad trucks, the hemi is a good engine, not perfect but will serve you very well
My PW sound just like yours doesnt bother me a bit! My old 5.7 had the manifold bolts break causing a leak but was a cheapish fix. Got my truck back same day. u are correct the knock was loudest w cold engine.
cant wait for the 6.4 comparison vid👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I wouldn't say the sound bugs me, it's just more noticeable then my old 4th gen 5.7. I lucked out with my 5.7, never had manifolds leak!
think of it as character. Like a diesel
Good video. How about comparing the 6.4 with the Ford 7.3 gas engine currently offered in the super duty?
Would Love to do that review! I'm hoping to head to the ford dealership and see if they let me review it. Heard good things about the 7.3
@@GettysGarage My neighbor just bought a Ford 7.3 gasser and it sounds so much nicer than my 2020 6.4L goes better too at least mine uses more gas lol.
The "mechanical squeeky resonance" you are hearing on start up is the catalytic converters warming up to temp. Then when the truck is warm you will be hearing the incredibly loud injector noise from the higher performance injectors on these engines. You are not hearing lifter noise on these engines at all, they are roller hydraulic lifters. Maybe a little rocker noise on an engine with some miles on it, but not lifter noise. I am a regional MOPAR tech rep with Chrysler 30+ years experience. The 6.4L hemi is superior to the 5.7 in just about every way. The 5.7 is really just a SUV duty engine not meant for severe service like the 6.4L truck engine.
Wow ! Do you have a channel ?
Hey, I’ve noticed an “intermittent” noise on my 6.4 scat pack. Most prominent at idle from a cold start. I’ve got a video if you wouldn’t mind taking the time to listen?
By your description it sounds like your exhaust manifolds are not sealing when the engine is cold then seal when they have come up to temp. Always shut off your EDS when the engine is cold so that the cylinders heat up uniformly. @@Avery5B
What if change the cat, will the noise stop?
I’ve gotta 5.7 hemi it doesn’t make any ticking noise… but about a year ago I had the manifold bolts to break… it’s the Chinese steel they made the bolts from that caused that… but if that lifter noise gets louder I’d definitely check it out… you don’t want it to jack up your cam… thanks for your videos buddy…
The fender flares I have aren’t factory but they came with a rubber gasket between the fender flares and the truck of that helps
I just had the gaskets and bolts replaced on my '13 Power Wagon 5.7 L. I can attest that my truck went from very quiet to ticking on start-up. Once the truck warmed up, it got quiet again. I left it that way for a while and it got slowly worse. Think I even lost some ponies from it. 4 bolts were broken. 1 bolt broke at the outside edge of the manifold, so there was something to bite onto to remove. The other 3 broke off at the block, requiring hex nut be rosette welded to the ends, so they could be removed safely. The new hardware is stainless, so hopefully it holds up better.
Well good news is the 6.4's come with stainless and it shocks me they haven't done that with the 5.7's lol its a very common issue. Not the worst issue, but still annoying
Had that same issue at 79,000 km on my 14 5.7.
Had the dealer replace it (Menzies) and I've got the tick again now at 147,000 km
To prevent rust, I apply a product called fluid film to the entire under carriage and inside the wheel wells.
i just got a can of black spraypaint
Wouldn’t all the dust and road shit stick to it? 🤔
@@coltendixon2416 - I just sprayed my new 2023 PW 2 days ago with Fluid Film. Came out nice!
I’ve owned many trucks over the years and they all have had there own unique sound. The Hemi is no different. I bought a new 1993 Mazda B2600i pickup.I was sure there was something wrong with the engine because it had a very loud ticking noise. I was assured it was normal. At 330,000 miles, it needed all new seals so I sold it. As far as I know, it’s still going. Don’t be fooled by all the hype about the Hemi tick. This is one really tough engine.
Exactly, the more I learn about these hemi engines the more I realize how strong they are. I was guilty at first believing the tick hype but I think its not as common as they say.
nice...love the hemi information videos i have a 2018 PW and i had a 2016 ram 1500 that had an exhaust leak which is how i found your channel 👍
I bought a new 2022 Dodge Challenger R/T 5.7L Hemi June 2022 - my husband and I spent 10 years saving for our dream car. I noticed there was a ticking noise from the engine which I thought was the "HEMI tick." It was a slight ticking noise at cold start coming from the passenger side and then after a few seconds it would stop ticking.
In August, 2022, we had put 2000 miles on the car and we were on a weekend road trip.
The engine started to make loud noises and started shaking. Then the engine and electrical light turned. Then suddenly, the motor stalled and shut off while in motion on the highway going 80 mph!!!! 😳 😱 🤬
My husband had to drive by using strange maneuvers, putting in N with brakes and pumping the gas, when it idled it would shut off. Had to do this all the way to the dealer since the tow truck would have been late by an hour and the service department would have been closed.
The dealer said it was a cylinder 5 misfire - which ended up a valve dropping and cracking the cylinder - they had to change the long block and the intake manifold, due to catastrophic damage.
One of the techs insinuated it was the MDS system that closes 4 valves at highway speed to reduce fuel consumption.
Till this date, the car is still at the dealer, which is an hour away from our house.
I found out there is a class action lawsuit against FCA due to the 5.7 and 6.4 HEMI that are not supercharged, having issues with the MDS engines stalling issues which report from NHTSA of the same thing happening to people on the highway, which is a huge safety issue, especially while driving at highway speeds.
I didn’t know about the Class Action because it wasn’t showing up on the Internet until late June once a complaint was filed. If I would’ve known I would’ve not purchased a car.
This is my daily driver and my husband and I are seriously scared for my safety. Dodge doesn't want to do a buyback and I am having to get an attorney involved because it is not reasonable a new car has these issues.
I hope this helps your viewers and beware about buying any HEMI products!!!!
My 6.4 Hemi in a 2022 Ram 2500 sounds exactly like that. I feel like some of the noise is the heat shields over the exhaust manifolds. They are made of very thin metal.
I run rockblokz mud flaps. You can order Extra wide ones. I think that could really help with those little rocks. I don't know an extreme amount about the 6.4. I do want a 3500 dually with one. Maybe on day. I owned an 04 And 08 5.7 Hemi Dually. Wouldn't win races pulling trailers especially being detuned to 330hp in that application but rock solid reliable.
Great videos. Look forward to the next.
Ya man the research I've done so far on the 6.4 is showing that these engines are no joke. Built to last which is nice to see! And ya I think I need some bigger flaps
I have heard, but never tested, that if you change fuel injectors, you can get rid of that really tinny, metallic tick. I wonder if that is true or folk law. Just a thought. Love the videos, keep them rolling!
potentially! I'll have to look into that. obviously nothing is wrong with the truck but it does sound rather loud lol
@@GettysGarage the truck is Awesome!
I just bought a 2019 6.4 an I was shocked when it said use 0w40 oil seems really thin for my liking the 40w oil good but just seems to thin with 0w. I'm old school an have raced an built engins most of my life an have used 10w40 Quaker state or 20w50 with stp for added zinc an have never had a failure issues of any kind. So when I did oil in the 6.4 I used mobil 1 040 with stp synthetic an it made a tone of difference in the engine noise so smooth an quiet now. I think that's why the lifers are failing they need more lubrication. I have a 05 5.4 triton all original with 320'000 miles on it an I use Quaker state 530 an stp that's all it's had put in it an it runs smooth an quiet. So the proof is in the puddin
Mine makes that tick sound too, but one thing that concerns me is sometimes it will make a loud hum when the rpm’s get to about 1.5
Something similar with my 2019 charger scat. Low freq tick as the RPMs rise. Last month of my warranty. Still spooked
Lucky for my son's 2016 1500 5.7 it's been two exhaust manifold leaks .. my other son's 2017 1500 5.7 is fine.. my 2014 6.4 is same as ours .. avoid long idle time use only the synthetic oil the truck came with. Use Wolverine heating pads on the oil pans due living above the 55th. Which helps with less idle time.
Some guys say to lessen the rocker / lifter noise in the semi you go from 5W20 to 2W30 oil. What do you think??
I put 140,000 miles on my 2012 5.7 and now 20,000 miles on my 2022 6.4. Never heard a 'tick' yet. Regular oil changes an no extended idling and I doubt you'll hear the 'tick' on your Hemi either.
Man, I don't miss all the salt and the rust that accompanies it. Western Canada has so much less rust. I couldn't believe it when I moved here.
I was living on Vancouver island for the last couple years and yes rust is much less of an issue. I remember getting my ram 1500 safetied coming from Ontario and it was oil sprayed twice a year and the mechanic couldn't believe how much oil was under it just to prevent rust.
@@GettysGaragesame thing here! My brother is a mechanic back on PEI (where I am from) and his first time out west, he couldn't believe how clean rigs are here.
I put on the factory ram side steps the flat wide ones they save a lot of road trash from hitting the paint
Had them on my 14 ram 230000 km later no surface rust drove every winter must have in my opinion
They do but I'm always worried they actually gather road crap. Either way I think bigger mud flaps may help lol eventually I'll probably through some rock slider on this truck and that will probably help!
Bought a 2023 Rebel with the 6.4 and did not hear this noise when I test drove it and bought it. 2 days later I started it up and swore I had a loose belt. I absolutely hate that my truck sounds THIS BAD at startup. I wish I never bought it but can't afford the depreciation hit I would take selling it this soon.
Any concerns with the MDS system?
Not really, MDS system is rarely on in this truck and I talked to some dodge mechanics at the dealer for a good amount of time about yhis issue and they swear that the MDS issue is not the issue. Obviously, it can fail but I'm not worried.
Question
Oil .. what type of oil should we use ?
I have 3500 6.4 hemi .. 0w40 oil .
Does your Power Wagon have an almost imperceptible engine "wobble" not quite a rough idle when you start it cold?
Yes, I wonder if the idle “shake” is related to the active harmonic dampers on the new frame. My 2016 PW didn’t have this. Not really a problem, reminds on an old 1971 big block Chevy I used to own.
Just bought a brand new 300s with a 5.7 and have been going crazy looking for an exhaust leak, I've put it on a lift. You're video brings me some peace of mind. However I have noticed it seems to be slightly louder in the driver side exhaust.
for rust in Illinois I soak down my underbody with Fluid Film before winter..
those hemi's do love their exhaust leaks. but I have a 5.7 in my old ram 1500 and I was never sure if I was hearing a tick or exhaust leak or if I was imagining the whole thing and the engine was fine lol
I put a cat back magnaflow on my 2017 pw. Hated that square resonator in the wheel well. Nice sound very mild. Looks good
Awesome man. I don't know what i want to do with the exhaust yet lol I wanted to do a muffler delete like my 1500 but idk might be a little too loud.
That resonator drove me crazy. The magnaflow has a smaller round one in a location where you cant see it.
Do you know of a permanent way to disable the mds ?
@@colbiecolbie6979 hey I just picked up my 22 pw did the aforementioned exhaust bolt in and react well with the sensors and stuff? I’m not looking for piles of noise or anything, like you, just don’t like the big box in the wheel well!
@@mtbxc3rocks yes. Absolutely,i installed myself with had tools , very easy. Leave everything somewhat loose ,adjust to your liking ,tighten it up done.
Note : i did it before i drove it in winter conditions. So everthing came apart easy. I dont winter drive it still looks new. Only other thing i did was a k and n filter. No cold air , just filter.
I used Royal Purple, and it's not that it went away completely but it did quiet down quite a bit. Don't ask me why or how, but around the 500km to 1000km mark it quieted down
thanks!!!! have you tested the lucas UPPER CYLINDER LUBRICANT? this really silences almost 50% of the noise, i really dont know why or how this work, this worked on my ram 2500 5.7
What are your thoughts on adding aftermarket airbags in the rear to help with towing?
100% worth, I'm going to go with air lift and they have cool bags that go in the coils and just add some payload ability. Maybe like 200 bucks. And can take like 1500 lbs of payload
@@GettysGarage that would make a killer video.
Airbags are a must , best 300 I’ve spent . Make sure you run cradles so the bags don’t limit your off road flexibility
I put Daystar cradles with loadlifter 5000 bags. Also put a left over Firestone air pump in.
Best thing I ever did to my 2020 power wagon.
Mine sounds identical to that but it does it all the time, can’t figure out what it is, any idea??
Runs /drives fine
I just recently got my classic ram..
Is it a good idea to put the truck in neutral when im at red lights. Will it save a little bit of fuel.
Can i put it in neutral while moving??
Thanks
Redline 0w-40’and srt filter will help save the hemi . I dumped the factory fill at 1000 miles and went right to redline . Changed it again at 5k and 5k oil changeds since then . My 21 power wagon is alot quieter than most 6.4’s I’ve seen . Currently at 14k and love the truck
Really? That’s interesting. Fuel economy improve at all?
@@michaellarrick8881 there is a app called gas manager . I’ve kept track since day one . Mileage is the same as the day I bought it . Today it has a s&b intake , magnaflow exhaust and 35’s . Corrected speedometer with alpha obd2
Recently I just bought a 2019 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi it has a small tick but it doesn't bother me I was running 87 octane I didn't realize that the 5.7 Hemi required 89 octane so far the engine does runs smoother and seem to be little quieter.
mehh, I mean I ran 87 in my old 2017 ram 1500. When towing I would put in 94 but other then that the regular fuel seemed to be fine. I did read that they recommend 89 but I didn't
I think alot of the noise comes from the cats, looks like thin wall metal, my 22 doesn't quiet down till it warms up
I have a 2020 PW and i can't turn off a/c. If i push the a/c button it turn off but i can hear the compressor ticking every 10-15 secs which is my other concern. Why cant i turn it off fully??? The vents are not in defrost position. Does Yours do this too? Thank you
I’ve been searching for the cause of that pinging metallic sound for over a year on my 2021 and can’t get a straight answer from anyone. Please let us know if you find out what it is. I will add that over the past year I have heard it stop completely three times but comes back on the next start up. Puzzling to say the least.
I think someone mentioned it has to do with the injectors on this engine. I've noticed when driving very slow the sound goes away and then once stopped again it comes back. which would be consistent with injector sounds. either way apparently it's completely normal!
another commenter is a 30 year mopar mechanic and he said its the cat warming up. Then once the cat is warmed you hear the high flow injectors. Makes sense, but I dont know for sure
I’ve grown to love the normal ticking noises that come from the Hemi’s. Especially the 6.4 in the Power Wagon, and 6.2 in the TRX.
interesting how the 6.2's have that same ticking lol
I think it might have to do with all the hemi engines having pushrods and not overhead cams. The 7.3 Ford motor also makes a similar ticking noise as well.
Mine is actually a lifter ) rocker arm . Not a injector tick or exhaust leak
If they are so different then how is a cam swap from 6.4 to 5.7 possible?
My 6.4 doesn’t have exhaust manifold leak but the heat shield rattles lol
It’s all good. My new power wagon sounds the same with 3k miles on it and has since day one
Try running boards for limiting spray onto rear
I have a 2016 Power Wagon that sounds exactly the same, and it has not changed for 43,000 miles.
Apparently it's something to do with the fuel ejection system making that odd metallic exhaust note. that's what i"ve heard anyways!
Hey My 2019 sounds the same as most others. But do you get that once in a while get the puff of blue smoke? I heard it is also prevalent in new Hemi’s.
I did when it was really cold. like -30
Check out Reignited-Cycle and Automotive, he does a full video on hemi tick and has some great info on 6.4 hemi in 2500 trucks. Headers for power wagons are stupid expensive but may be the best alternative. Nice wagon btw
How bad are rust issues with all the salt and snow?
nvm, you stated it is the death of any truck right as I posted that
I did both exhaust manifolds, had multiple broken studs and my truck still ticks similiar to that, it seems to be on the driver side, been worried about the hemi tick but it doesnt seem to be getting worse or louder that I can notice for the past 6 months
Did you do a scan ?
What about a 6.2L Hellcat, it has exactly same sound.
My 2020 POWER WAGON 6.4 HEMI HAD THE LIFTER TICK
BUT I'VE RAN MID GRADE FUEL PRETTY CONSISTENT OCASIONAL HI GRADE FUEL AND THE (TICK) IS OR HAS STOPED
SO A HIGHER OCTANE FUEL CURED THE TICK
I wonder about putting the rubber seal that comes with aftermarket fender flares, i just put them on my sister in-law's Tacoma and was thinking about doing it to my PW.
exactly, I just need something to keep out the small little rocks lol
You can try doing ppf just on the side rear. Some people like to get a clear bra which is ppf to just protect the front of the vehicle since that wear most of the scratches happen. In your case you can do just do rear sides so that it’s cost effective. Ppf on an entire truck can be pretty expensive. Ceramic pro is also an option.
I was honestly thinking about wrapping the truck but that could also be a good option! Thank you
I have a 2021 f350 6.2, they tick too. A lot of engines to you should hear how loud viper engines tick
good old viper v10's. would love to get my hands on one lol
On my 5.7, Mobil 1 full syn oil and Mobil 1 filter seemed to eliminate any tick. And I change it once a year which is 6000 miles for me.
I use Pennzoil full synthetic and no issue so far.
I also use mobile 1 oil. good stuff and seems to always be on sale which is nice! drove my 5.7 hemi over 100k with only mobile 1, no issues at all
all good stuff, any main brand synthetic should be good decent oil.
More lifter issues on these 6.4s than the 5.7s. Oh well that's what the warranty is for I suppose. Real nice truck here. I've run the magic bottle solution for a few oil changes, quiets up the 5.7 a bit. Liqui Moly Ceratec you can get it off Amazon. 117k km on my 5.7 here now and kicked it out of a dealer to a private shop now. Should try 3M automotive film under those fender flares and mudguards. My mudguards with all that frozen slush hanging off them and vibrating actually ate through the clear and paint right down to the metal. Chrysler Canada had me pay a good faith warranty deductible 200 bucks for the auto body shop to fix it up. Pretty sure they knew they would not make the corrosion warranty and they would have paid more down the road. Anyways auto body shop put the film underneath the mud guards at my request.
Side steps/running boards might help, believe it or not, they catch a lot that the flaps don't. You can get offroad styled ones too, you don't have to get the city slicker style.
a lot of people are saying that! Maybe I need bigger flaps to catch more. or like you said get some off road style side steps!
@@GettysGarage I run the 75A sliders and live in Montana were roads are bad too. I have the HD mopar mud flaps and those combined with the sliders have not had an issue in two winters.
I run bulletproof wheel to wheel steps they are a rock slider style step . Full coverage not salt/ mud comes up . The rocks will wear away at the paint but so will the flares themselves on an old truck I took the flares off then linex’d the spot and reinstalled . Can get a spray can for like 20-30$ from Canadian tire .
Running boards would help with keeping stones and sand away from the box and cils. But you got like that look. I always have running boards. I’m 54 and always had better success from stone chips and rusting. While other trucks that don’t have them seems to chip and rust more. My thoughts.
100% they do keep the rock and road grim down but that's also what I was hoping these mud flaps would do lol. I probably need bigger flaps but they all ran for 500 bucks. expensive things!
Ahhh, the video I've been looking for. 👍
I had an 18 2500 6.4 Hemi, was a good truck, but the the Hemi only has 400 ft lbs of torque, where the 6.7 Cummins has 900 ft lbs, and it makes a huge difference when towing
12v Cummins made 400 tq and no one had an issue with it 🤣
430 torque..
What’s your thoughts on a oil catch can?
Havent really looked into it. Why would you want an oil catch can.
I heard the oil catch can is good for the truck.. but I personally haven’t done my research
I enjoyed this video my 🇨🇦 friend. Love the truck and your input. 👏👏👏
Thank you for the support!
What year did Ram switch lifter suppliers?
2016
I traded in my 2018 Ram 2500 6.4 on a 2021 Ford F-350 7.3. I haven’t looked back since & luv the 7.3! The fact that you recommend not idling a work truck engine is acknowledging a design flaw! Work trucks are supposed to idle in the field especially doing work !
I agree, we have several ford 6.2s that spend more than half their lives idling on job sites. The 7.3 in my personal truck seems good so far. The 10 speed can be a little wonky but otherwise all is well.
How’s the 7.3 working out ? I hear that are all exploding
My 2004 57 HEMI has 182000 miles on it and still going strong
All domestic V-8s are bad for manifold bolts breaking at fire wall
If what you said is true..I’m putting a supercharger on my truck..lol..I have. 2016 2500 and change my oil every 7500 miles..not kilometers..Mobil 1 0w-40 and not a tick to be heard..and Mobil 1 filter also..
Great information great video
My 2017 6.4 @ 89k miles, does this until I drive off. Premium fuel, and 5k oil changes.
it seems like that's just the normal sound of the 6.4. but premium fuel eh, unfortunately my pockets aren't that deep. I do however always run premium when towing, figured it's worth when the engine is working hard lol
@@GettysGarage I usually burn through 120 gallons of diesel, and up to $1k in gas per month so it all becomes a blur.😂 I was misfiring on the 6.4, and my boss on his 5.7 on regular. I changed my plugs, and we both went premium.
@@GettysGarage premium fuel is what the manual states to use
My 2020 power wagon made that noise from day 3 of ownership
Need some AMSOIL Z-Rod oil.
Lifter tick will go away since the lifter could prime back up but its no guarantee
I heard just the opposite of what you said..trunk engines can’t take the boost like the car engine ..that’s why the car engine has a super charger on it..the bottom end of engines are different..example..truck engine has 2 bolt mains on bottom end and car has 4 bolt mains..that’s why they take the boost of a supercharger..this is what I heard..I have never take a Hemi engine apart..so don’t shoot the messenger..lol
6.2 has same problem in fords
Which truck has less problems Ram 6.4 or 6.2 F250 ?
I like the sound personally. Sounds similar to a diesel.
Clear silicone those flares..
Sounds normal ta me - At least it not ticking - Driving 30mph is idling ☹️
Love how you and Sky at Reignited had the same type of video. Check him out as you are on the right track with “The HEMI tick” - ua-cam.com/users/13motorsports I have the 5.7 and Im always worried about it and listening to its ticks. I had to change out 1-2 exhaust manifold bolts but otherwise I’m good with 78k miles.
If my truck played jingle bells it’d be gone
I've had 3 hemi's they all sound like that make me mad dodge can't fix that noise
Use Brad Penn oil
next time!
Its so dry where i come from that flair up of.mud all over your truck is a badge of honor :):) if you were to have it round here
Sounds like a squeak on the video
dont understand people buying a 3/4 ton with a 6.4 gas engine when youd pay the same money for a 6.7 cummins better gas milage and more power and can pull alot more and will run alot lot longer 6.4 is great in the durangos and challengers tho
Diesel is $10k more than the hemi all day long...
@@waynedaniels7091 14k in canada lol
@@GettysGarage definitely!! 😅
Diesel in a ram 2500 or 3500 is $9,500 to $12,000 more, depending on which cummins you get young guns
Change oil😅
He keeps talking about how good the ram vehicles are & it's now with a lifter noise, Mopar junk
okay Allan
Geez Allan.
Hows ur 2002 F-150 running?
Hemi's are garbage
Sure .
You need to take a woman or a gay guy to help you pick out a good looking set of eye glasses.