How to set up a Mayflash Wii Sensor Bar on a PC and configure Area 51, Jurassic Park, Terminator 2, House of the Dead 2 & 3, Ghost Squad, and Mad Dog McCree.
The fact you said TERMINATOR 2 was not a lightgun game but glorified joystick was proof you know what you're talking about. Most arcade games sans Duck Hunt or Time Crisis are guns larping as joysticks. Good video worthy of my reconfiging wi-motes and not forking out for a $100 Sinden to "fix" an issue with simple input options on MAME missed by some other youtubers. As another idea a third-party Mayflash (clone) can be found on AliExpress for 16% of an official one for more inflation busting/budgeting tips.
I don't know if I would say most are joystick games, but definitely several are. Mayflash is already a 3rd party solution but I assume there are some Chinese companies that cloned the Mayflash. This is hard enough to get working without trying to save a few bucks and getting flakey hardware, so I'd stick with Mayflash for now.
no dude, T2 literally used an analog joystick, same as revolution x. nowhere in mame for those games will you see an option for a lightgun, because they never used one.
I can’t believe I found this video - can’t wait to try this - thank you. This vid just popped up into my feed. After spending $300 (nothing but 100% failure) on Siden (got my money back) - looking forward to making this work. Thanks again.
Thank you so much for your tutorial! Now I can play all arcade games I have with the Wiimote! For me, the easiest methode to configure X and Y was: X: Slowly move from center to Right. And Y: Slowly move from center to UP! It worked without any issues! It has been great fun!
You can get pretty close to 1 to 1 with a wiimote if you mount a IR light on either side of the screen dead center. I use two usb wiibars and cover 1 light on each.
do you know how to connect wiimote past the pin code bluetooth setting i dont have any bars just bluetooth and wiimote using for mame launchbox light gun games. i have previously got it to work for clone hero but this time i cant get past the pin :/ @@Beansteak
These are definitely a nice option. In some cases you might need to jump through hoops to add the white border they need to operate, but a good choice. Also I did not go this route because of the cost of their guns and the delay in shipping at the time I started building this.
@@texashomearcadeservices4714 those sinden guns do seem to be the best option as of right now but i kind of feel like they are a bit overpriced imo. Especially with the delayed shipping.
Dolphinbar works on a Mac running MAMEUI but it will only support one WiiMote at a time, not two, even if you use two Dolphinbars and 2 WiiMotes on Mode 2. MAME sees both WiiMotes as one mouse no matter what.
Super excited here, just got my mayflash, found this video set it up, and working great for operaiton wolf. Would have ben confusing setup wthout your guide. SUrprosed how ood the aiming is whithout needing to cvcalibrate anything. is there calibraiton option so I could have a lower default? meaning, i gotta aim a bit too much UP to be in center, hand strain. I want my hand straigh forward ot be acting like center.
This has been really helpful, thanks for posting. Have you had much luck with 3do games? I really want to get Space Pirates working nicely. Ive had a bit of luck with the Opera (4do) core in RetroArch, but its not excellent. Anyway, really great work, subscribed :)
3DO is something on my to do list because they do have a lot of the American Laser games on there. My first attempt did not yield many results, but I haven't yet spent a lot of time with it.
Thanks this is great. Is there any way to get a Wiimote working in LaunchBox? Starting the game from within LaunchBox won't let me configure the controls properly.
Congratulations for the content. Can you help about configuration Mame for two wiimotes as ligth gun (with two or one mayflash bar - I have two), for 2 player's game. It will by amazing. Tks friend!
how do with usb sensor bar not mayflash? i have one original of my wii and another usb i used in PC and mame only recognize my mouse but not my wiimote (i use touchmote and work well in others emulators
Just a FYI folk this wont work unless you have the actual mayflash bar itself, it wont work with standard sensor bars that only have infrared LED's. It must be the kind where the wiimote can sync too it. I tried to get this to work without the mayflash bar and it cannot detect the inputs properly.
So I was able to hook up my Wii mote to mame, for Jurassic park when I set up my Wii mote it moves uncontrollably I can’t see to set up the Wii mote calibration correctly even thought I did everything you said. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Also when the Wii mote is just on the screen it’s flickering a lot and stuttering is there any way to fix this?
You can use a Wii IR bar if you have another Bluetooth adapter to pair your WiiMote to, but it will not give you the hardware button to change the mode like the Mayflash bar gives you. If that allows you to work in keyboard and mouse mode you might be ok, but I am not sure. If your PC doesn’t already have Bluetooth I would just get the Mayflash bar which serves both purposes and is designed to work with WiiMotes. No guarantees on how well it will work with cheaper options.
I can't get two wiimotes to sync to the bar in mode 2. I can use them in mode 3 but it doesn't recognize movement. Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
I use two Mayflash bars in order to get 2 guns working in mode 2. You only need one bar for the IR sensors so I hide it inside the cab. But it still uses the second bar for the Bluetooth connection.
It depends on the mode you have the Mayflash bar set to. With the mouse/keyboard mode 3 (which I prefer so I don't have to switch back and forth), you cannot remap some of the buttons because they are hard coded to keyboard keys like volume or escape.
We're working on a new lightgun shooter and haven't tested it on wii motes yet. I'm really curious. Any interest in trying out our demo and letting us know how it goes?
@@moleratdigitalart6324 I can't commit to a specific date, let alone in 3 days if that is what you mean. I will look into the public beta. Does it have 4:3 mode? That is the ratio of my arcade screen.
Not really it just uses the two IR transmitters in the sensor bar to know how much you moved the Wiimote. If you used two it may actually confuse the Wiimote because it is only expecting 2 IR signals not 4. I have seen other videos where folks have used other IR transmitters or even candles so that is possible if you don't like your results and want to experiment.
You need a way to connect your 2nd WiiMote to your PC by bluetooth, so you can try using some other bluetooth adapter, however I am not sure how you control which mode your WiiMote operates in without an adapter designed specifically for WiiMote devices, which the Dolphin bar is. For me it just wasn't worth the hassle to save maybe $10, so I just got a second Dolphin bar. However the WiiMotes only need one sensor bar to provide the IR light so only 1 needs to be mounted on the front of your cabinet/monitor.
@@J0SHUAKANEI was able to connect both wiimotes to one dolphinbar in mode 4. In mame, I'm able map all my buttons besides the x/y gun movement on the guns. Only way I can map x/y is if I click sync button on the dolphin, sync led starts flashing, I quickly map x/y, but just a few seconds later, sync blink led will turn off, the both controllers won't respond with x/y anymore. It feels like it disconnects. Help pls?
If you purchase the Mayflash sensor bar which I show the box for at the beginning, the driver for that will enable the WiiMotes. You can then set the mode to use them as a mouse and keyboard or to use them as WiiMotes only with the Dolphin emulator. I did show in the video how to use the mouse mode which is what is needed to work in MAME.
Yes I am using Hyperspin. If your WiiMotes are in mouse mode, you can use them to operate the Hyperspin front end. I believe + maps to the enter key, - maps to Escape, and the cursor keys work as you would expect.
I got it to work but the pointer always point back to the center of screen. If I move the pointer to shoot it will center back again. I don't know if I did something wrong. I use coinops but could not find the device mapping screen.
I have question - where i get virtua cop 3 working with mame - i download some b version and two files missing.I download version a and wont run - bad rom...
I can’t tell you how helpful this video was. Thank you so much! 😊
The fact you said TERMINATOR 2 was not a lightgun game but glorified joystick was proof you know what you're talking about. Most arcade games sans Duck Hunt or Time Crisis are guns larping as joysticks. Good video worthy of my reconfiging wi-motes and not forking out for a $100 Sinden to "fix" an issue with simple input options on MAME missed by some other youtubers. As another idea a third-party Mayflash (clone) can be found on AliExpress for 16% of an official one for more inflation busting/budgeting tips.
I don't know if I would say most are joystick games, but definitely several are. Mayflash is already a 3rd party solution but I assume there are some Chinese companies that cloned the Mayflash. This is hard enough to get working without trying to save a few bucks and getting flakey hardware, so I'd stick with Mayflash for now.
no dude, T2 literally used an analog joystick, same as revolution x. nowhere in mame for those games will you see an option for a lightgun, because they never used one.
I can’t believe I found this video - can’t wait to try this - thank you. This vid just popped up into my feed. After spending $300 (nothing but 100% failure) on Siden (got my money back) - looking forward to making this work. Thanks again.
dude your a legend!! i was struggling with wimote, glad to have operation wolf working , now to start building the cab with real OPW guns
Thank you so much for your tutorial! Now I can play all arcade games I have with the Wiimote! For me, the easiest methode to configure X and Y was: X: Slowly move from center to Right. And Y: Slowly move from center to UP! It worked without any issues! It has been great fun!
thank you for taking the time to help people out. Much appreciated
You helped me too . I drove myself sick before this lol.
You can always make your config file read-only after you set everything up so you don't have to re-map again.
Hi, tell me how please, I need it
My man thank you I was wondering why some games didn't work I figured was analog games but was not sure witch setting to fiddle with.
You can get pretty close to 1 to 1 with a wiimote if you mount a IR light on either side of the screen dead center. I use two usb wiibars and cover 1 light on each.
When you say 1:1 do you mean it actually hits where you aim on the screen rather than how the wiimote works? Thanks
@@eazyrat it's not 1:1 obviously but it is the closest you will get to the wiimote feeling as such.
do you know how to connect wiimote past the pin code bluetooth setting i dont have any bars just bluetooth and wiimote using for mame launchbox light gun games. i have previously got it to work for clone hero but this time i cant get past the pin :/
@@Beansteak
@@tacogirl6909 connecting them like that is extremely unreliable. I bought a Mayflash Dolphinbar and it saved me hours of headaches and disconnects.
Bro this is Hella smart. I dig this idea
Sinden LightGuns all day. Never looking back
These are definitely a nice option. In some cases you might need to jump through hoops to add the white border they need to operate, but a good choice. Also I did not go this route because of the cost of their guns and the delay in shipping at the time I started building this.
@@texashomearcadeservices4714 those sinden guns do seem to be the best option as of right now but i kind of feel like they are a bit overpriced imo. Especially with the delayed shipping.
Don't work on CRT TV no nop, these games are for CRTs and locks a lot better on there
You are a hero. What a great tutorial thank you
Dolphinbar works on a Mac running MAMEUI but it will only support one WiiMote at a time, not two, even if you use two Dolphinbars and 2 WiiMotes on Mode 2. MAME sees both WiiMotes as one mouse no matter what.
Any idea why my mame only picks up my controller in the menu but as soon as i go into a game it no longer picks up the sight ? All other buttons work?
Super excited here, just got my mayflash, found this video set it up, and working great for operaiton wolf. Would have ben confusing setup wthout your guide. SUrprosed how ood the aiming is whithout needing to cvcalibrate anything. is there calibraiton option so I could have a lower default? meaning, i gotta aim a bit too much UP to be in center, hand strain. I want my hand straigh forward ot be acting like center.
This has been really helpful, thanks for posting. Have you had much luck with 3do games? I really want to get Space Pirates working nicely. Ive had a bit of luck with the Opera (4do) core in RetroArch, but its not excellent. Anyway, really great work, subscribed :)
3DO is something on my to do list because they do have a lot of the American Laser games on there. My first attempt did not yield many results, but I haven't yet spent a lot of time with it.
Thanks this is great. Is there any way to get a Wiimote working in LaunchBox? Starting the game from within LaunchBox won't let me configure the controls properly.
thanks you saved my day :D
Is the aiming actually that lagy or is it just look that way in the video?
I've found aiming with wiimotes is generally very laggy, even on the wii.
Congratulations for the content. Can you help about configuration Mame for two wiimotes as ligth gun (with two or one mayflash bar - I have two), for 2 player's game. It will by amazing. Tks friend!
Do you know to get it to work on the Wii
how do with usb sensor bar not mayflash? i have one original of my wii and another usb i used in PC and mame only recognize my mouse but not my wiimote (i use touchmote and work well in others emulators
Just a FYI folk this wont work unless you have the actual mayflash bar itself, it wont work with standard sensor bars that only have infrared LED's. It must be the kind where the wiimote can sync too it. I tried to get this to work without the mayflash bar and it cannot detect the inputs properly.
Awesome, thanks a lot!
Does the gun shoot where you aim or is it wii style aiming? Thanks
So I was able to hook up my Wii mote to mame, for Jurassic park when I set up my Wii mote it moves uncontrollably I can’t see to set up the Wii mote calibration correctly even thought I did everything you said. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Also when the Wii mote is just on the screen it’s flickering a lot and stuttering is there any way to fix this?
Kinda late but dooesnt work too close to screen. Also get some more ir lights on the two corners of the screen.
a usb wii barr is all i need? or the dolphin expensive one? thanks
You can use a Wii IR bar if you have another Bluetooth adapter to pair your WiiMote to, but it will not give you the hardware button to change the mode like the Mayflash bar gives you. If that allows you to work in keyboard and mouse mode you might be ok, but I am not sure. If your PC doesn’t already have Bluetooth I would just get the Mayflash bar which serves both purposes and is designed to work with WiiMotes. No guarantees on how well it will work with cheaper options.
I can't get two wiimotes to sync to the bar in mode 2. I can use them in mode 3 but it doesn't recognize movement. Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
I use two Mayflash bars in order to get 2 guns working in mode 2. You only need one bar for the IR sensors so I hide it inside the cab. But it still uses the second bar for the Bluetooth connection.
use mode 4 & touchmote to connect up to 4 wiimotes to mame with a single dolphin bar
Great video. Thank you
When I try to map buttons 1 and 2 there is a volume bar that is controlled with these and the buttons do not map...
It depends on the mode you have the Mayflash bar set to. With the mouse/keyboard mode 3 (which I prefer so I don't have to switch back and forth), you cannot remap some of the buttons because they are hard coded to keyboard keys like volume or escape.
Thank you for this video. Can you please let me know where you got the Area 51 rom that works on the Mame 0.235 emulator?
It was from an old ROM set I had, either 0.138 or 0.146, and was the R3000 Atari ROM. I believe the combo A51/MaxForce ROM had some issues.
You are awesome!!
We're working on a new lightgun shooter and haven't tested it on wii motes yet. I'm really curious. Any interest in trying out our demo and letting us know how it goes?
Sounds fun, let me know how to try it out!
@@texashomearcadeservices4714 if you're into it and can commit to doing a video by the 29th we could also send you access to our closed beta.
@@moleratdigitalart6324 I can't commit to a specific date, let alone in 3 days if that is what you mean. I will look into the public beta. Does it have 4:3 mode? That is the ratio of my arcade screen.
@@texashomearcadeservices4714 The current demo has only been tested on 16:9 and wider.
@@texashomearcadeservices4714 Sorry we didn't contact you earlier in the Kickstarter campaign. I only came across your video this weekend.
Have you tried 4 wiimotes for 4 player light gun games? or 2 wiimotes plus 2 other light guns from another brand?
I have not tried more than 2
If u have a bigger tv like 55inch do u need two sensor bars.
Not really it just uses the two IR transmitters in the sensor bar to know how much you moved the Wiimote. If you used two it may actually confuse the Wiimote because it is only expecting 2 IR signals not 4. I have seen other videos where folks have used other IR transmitters or even candles so that is possible if you don't like your results and want to experiment.
@texashomearcadeservices4714 I tried to do this with a regular dolphin Wii bar. But not this kind.
não tem como deixar a mira invisível?
You can hide the crosshairs but then it is very hard to see where you are aiming the Wiimote so I prefer them to be on.
Great video! Do you know if this will work on a raspberry pi computer running Mame with Emulation Station? Thanks.
Yes it will. Pi3 pi4 for sure
A Pi can play some light gun games, but a lot of the ones I was interested in did not work well on a Pi4 (like Area51, it was too choppy).
Do you need two dolphin bars for 2 player in mame..or would one bar and one using Touchmote work?
You need a way to connect your 2nd WiiMote to your PC by bluetooth, so you can try using some other bluetooth adapter, however I am not sure how you control which mode your WiiMote operates in without an adapter designed specifically for WiiMote devices, which the Dolphin bar is. For me it just wasn't worth the hassle to save maybe $10, so I just got a second Dolphin bar. However the WiiMotes only need one sensor bar to provide the IR light so only 1 needs to be mounted on the front of your cabinet/monitor.
you can indeed connect up to 4 wiimotes to mame with touchmote & a single dolphin bar in mode 4
@@J0SHUAKANEI was able to connect both wiimotes to one dolphinbar in mode 4. In mame, I'm able map all my buttons besides the x/y gun movement on the guns.
Only way I can map x/y is if I click sync button on the dolphin, sync led starts flashing, I quickly map x/y, but just a few seconds later, sync blink led will turn off, the both controllers won't respond with x/y anymore.
It feels like it disconnects. Help pls?
what about a ps4 controller? i've been playing house of the dead on dolphin using a ps4 controller with motion, do you think it can work with mame?
I have not yet tried this. A move controller might work in theory, but I doubt the regular PS4 controller would be a suitable light gun alternative.
Thanks man
but how does the PC recognize the Wii remotes. You skipped over how to connect to PC so Mame can recognize they are there
If you purchase the Mayflash sensor bar which I show the box for at the beginning, the driver for that will enable the WiiMotes. You can then set the mode to use them as a mouse and keyboard or to use them as WiiMotes only with the Dolphin emulator. I did show in the video how to use the mouse mode which is what is needed to work in MAME.
Is this a hyperspin build?
I have a hyperspin pc ...will this work with wii motes?
Yes I am using Hyperspin. If your WiiMotes are in mouse mode, you can use them to operate the Hyperspin front end. I believe + maps to the enter key, - maps to Escape, and the cursor keys work as you would expect.
What key did you hit to add coins from keyboard?
I forget the default value but it might be the number 1. The tab menu lets you remap these as you see fit.
THANK YOU.
I got it to work but the pointer always point back to the center of screen. If I move the pointer to shoot it will center back again. I don't know if I did something wrong. I use coinops but could not find the device mapping screen.
I have not seen this issue. You can launch Mame directly outside of CoinOps to change device mapping settings.
I find running the game thru a front end messed up the configuration. The best bet is to run standalone
Window mode is impossibile to use.
That aim is hella off. Is there not a way to make that more accurately?
Cool thx.
I have question - where i get virtua cop 3 working with mame - i download some b version and two files missing.I download version a and wont run - bad rom...