Turn an Old PC Into a High-End Amiga with AmiKit X
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
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AmiKit X is a highly configured environment that runs on top of the classic AmigaOS and brings a high-end Amiga experience to your PC, Mac or Raspberry Pi. I test it out on a old PC and the Raspberry Pi 400.
AmiKit website: www.amikit.amiga.sk/
Get Amiga OS and Kickstart ROMS: www.amikit.amiga.sk/getamigaos
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▬ Contents of this video ▬
00:00 - Introduction to AmiKit
03:05 - Installing on Windows
05:06 - AmiKit X Tour
08:30 - Rabbit Hole
10:10 - AmiKit X Config
14:19 - Audio Applications
15:05 - Internet Applications
18:36 - Games and Demos
19:40 - Skillshare Sponsor Spot
20:55 - Amikit X on Raspberry Pi 400
Sources used in this video (with permission or under fair use):
THEA500 Mini (English): • THEA500 Mini (English)
NEW Raspberry Pi 400: a computer in a keyboard: • NEW Raspberry Pi 400: ...
AmiKit X (trailer#1): • AmiKit X (trailer#1)
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I'll never do this but it was fun watching you do it. Brings back memories of my Amiga 1000 back in the 80s.
Thanks so much Dan! I've got an older PC that needs something to do!
Wow Dan - I tested the Amiga emulation using your guide. Brilliant.
I had the 4000/40 back in ‘95. $4000 Canadian dollars!
Using in for Lightwave animation. It was fun to use. I sold it to a fellow down in the U.S. (I am Canadian) as he wanted it for doing imbedded programs. He was thrilled to get it for $700 US$.
Great video Dan. Interesting topic.
Thank you Dan for an excellent video! Thumb Up & Subscribed!!!
If you are a fan of Amiga, this is probably the best time to live in. I emulate my old Amiga 1200T (saved all my stuff to my back then PC FTP-server) using WinUAE. I also have a Vampire V4-Standalone for ApolloOS, a Sam460 and AmigaONE X5000 for AmigaOS 4.x. Earlier today I installed a Creative Soundblaster Audigy FX in the X5000 and it works perfectly, thanks to a developer who wrote drivers for that and some other cards using the same audio-chip.
Great days to be an Amiga fan!
I can't recall one piece of software from my Amiga days (I owed a 500, a 2000, and a 3000/040. I still have the 3000) that I'm interested in these days.
@@phillipzx3754 Even though I feel exactly the same way about the amiga, I don't feel that way at all about an earlier computer the Atari 800. It's not about whether Atariwriter, or the Print Shop is still a useful application program, and it's not even about whether Donkey Kong is still fun to play (although it is still fun to play). It's about what the computer represented then, and still represents today for humanity, that is a chance to create things that didn't exist before, to automate what was tedious, to do more than we were previously capable of doing. And this view of computers, which some people don't have any more - was the norm, it was the culture, really coming out of 1960's hacker culture at MIT and other schools. It's good to revisit, to remember where we came from, what we dreamed of, what we thought was possible, especially in light of the fact that we live in the most amazing of times now, in 2024. Much of what we dreamed them, is now taking place today. And to be 11 years old and be on the cusp of the revolution and to be in your 50's and employed to work on it - it's just amazing to be alive man. But agreed, the Amiga is garbage. Whoops, don't say that in this forum, for gosh sakes. Anyway, for some people the Amiga represented these possibilities, but for me the Amiga was a fun machine I had for a while, but doesn't hold such esteem in my history.
I've never gotten my hands on an Amiga, but I've been fascinated with them and the scene around them for a while. Seeing as how pricey an actual Amiga is, that Raspberry Pi solution seems to be a nice and reasonable way to try it out. Thanks!
You don't want the original hardware. I had an Amiga 500, and just watching this reminds me of all the configuration troubles. I would literally have to spend the DAY to get an modem working for example. I would never want to return to the bad old days.
The machine was impressive for its time, but Windows and Mac were only a couple years behind. By the time that 2000 rolled around, any OS was superior, including Linux.
@@fuzzywzhe I beg to differ. I had my old Amiga 1200 up and running in very short time with an SD-card as my harddrive connected to the internal IDE port. Back in the days I had days and months of trouble with this because I couldn't find a harddrive that wasn't too power hungry. I have a PCMCIA 3Com network card connected with the Easynet/AMITcp package. I can even swap that one out for a CF card adapter to transfer files to and from my PC that way if I want. And I am looking into getting a Gotek drive configured as an external DF1:
@@obbekjaer Well, the Amiga for its time was well ahead of the competitors but it's a primitive system compared to to today. I wouldn't want to go back to it. I was recently forced to reinstall my OS (linux) due to a failing SDD, I know this wouldn't have been as seamless 30 years ago.
The rest of your writing is beyond me, and be impressed. I'm trained as a VLSI chip designer. Believe me, the worst architecture won.
It was interesting 30 years ago to see leaps and bounds ahead in technology, those days are over.
I didn’t even know Amiga OS and the worldwide Amiga community was a thing! Thanks so much for posting this video, it was really informative yet also brought back good memories of when I used to play games at lunchtimes with my friend at school who used to have an Amiga.
Thank you for this. Never knew it existed. Just bought the supercombo. I already use Amiga Forever.
Well done! Excellent presentation!
I love the Pi version. I purchased it the day it released
You beauty... another video lined up and downloaded waiting to be watched when I get the beers in. 🍻
I love seeing a version where Amiga can run on a new system with a new variation/version of the GUI / OS. Thanks
Underneath, it's still the same old Amiga OS, with all it's flaws and idiosyncrasies. It's just that Workbench has been replaced with DOpus 5.x, although you can still use versions of Workbench 3.x instead. It's like an old Granny wearing a miniskirt, high heels and too much makeup... the closer you look, the more wrinkles you see. 😉
@@another3997 Seems part of the problem is that Amiga has an identity problem, and with no central authority (no Commodore) it can get worse.
That little keyboard based PI system is pretty awesome!
Then you'll like to know it's the only Pi version of which there's some stock left at some stores at the reasonable original price. Well, that's true at the moment of writing this, it will not last long, one can presume.
My memory of my old Amiga (which I loved), I think, is far better than the experience today would be like. Much as I applaud the efforts to keep the scene alive, I think I will keep my golden memories intact.
Good to see people still enjoying using an Amiga today.
I share the same exact sentiments! Much as I've thought to do an Amiga emulator, I can't find a single use case for it besides nostalgia.
Like watching clash of the titans. Better left as a memory.
@@machinimaaquinix3178 I understand what you mean and I understand very well the place that it comes from, its rational to an extent, but do you worry sometimes that too much emphasis is given to... justifying using something based on use case as opposed to just fun or enjoyability? Computers are tools, I understand that, but they're also interactive art, they're functional tools for work but also machines that are partly meant to facilitate joy and instill wonder, to impart a sense of fun and satisfaction in interacting with something with a very well thought out user experience. I used to struggle with justifying why I wanted an old IBM ThinkPad that was designed in the Windows 95 era, what legitimate use could I have for something like that in the modern age? Well, there's two main arguments, the first of which is I enjoy writing via typing, and if can support a word processor of any kind (they all can), then if I enjoy interacting with a given OS and a given keyboard, which in the case of a laptop is unchangeable without lots of effort in most cases, that already justifies it for me personally. I'd rather write my short stories in a Win9x interface running on old hardware because I like the mental framework that environment puts me in. Reason number 2 came later, which is the realization that my own subjective enjoyment of something WAS a legitimate use case, one of the best ones imaginable.
@@DissonanceEngineer It was fun when you were young, but doing this now, as a 50+ year old is just a waste of precious time. Better spend it on grandchildren and things you can STILL do without peeing in your pants.
@@clarkglare35 Yeah, let's a be a bunch of old farts who sit on the porch watching the traffic pass by.
Superb review thanks !
Thanks for the video Dan. I must say out of all the ‘modern’ variants that use emulation, this seems to be the best. I would love to see some applications running in the environment. How does it handle the applications from different Amiga OS generations?
So what you're saying is, this video isn't for you? Or sounds like it.
Thank you for the video!
Just looks amazing.
Definitely getting a Pi400 to get back into a proper Amiga emulation session. I have Amiga forever and other emulators, but it's just not the same than having a dedicated PC for the os.
I miss my Amiga, cool seeing this video...
nice to hear i have amiga forever to i should try this
Good work, my friend.
beautiful version of amiga desktop, thanks for review
i bought the amiga forever back in the days when i still was working with and on my amiga .. i cant figure out where i endup putting it .. it propably sits in some box deep within the years of moving house operation that took place .. having said that i feel totaly confortable using illegal aquired copys of the rom files... i somehow feel its still like .. i already bought them not to mention that i have something close to 200 amiga games original packaged so .. i sleep just fine having a pirated version.. even tho the amiga days are long past and gone for me watching your videos always brings back a fuzzy positive feeling of better days .. up to now deluxepaint was capable of doing things that photoshop cant even to till this day i often miss the efficiency of the amiga a damn shame how it all went down .. just imagine what we could have had ... computer that actualy do what the users want them to do .. :D
very cool thank you!!
Amikit XE is I think nearly the best option for a next gen high end cheap easy setup Amiga experience, I kinda wish a bit more work was done on the OS side so it knows its on emulated hardware and maybe support better graphics cards via these features.
I've been playing with Shapeshifter and Balistik II this afternoon, and even with an old PC emulating a fast Amiga, it's still possible to play some top 90s MAC games on it.
so you take an old PC put this software on it...and you have a amiga desktop then you put shapeshifter and you have a Mac...and all environments are shared in terms of availability at any one given time. Love it.
no such thing as Top Mac games.
@@godslayer1415 says a man who lacks culture.
PC native Mac emulation would be far better and faster, rather than using Shapeshifter. SS is old and has many limitations. YOU can still run both emulators at the same time on a modern PC.
@@godslayer1415Myst
Great video and gives me a tonne of ideas. How does Amikit handle things like Word Processing and email?
Awesome vid !
Dom System One is the insaine amiga collection, next to Chris Edwards Pimiga. There a ton of custom emupacks.
Lovely ideal!
I bought DOpus for my PC, works great on Windows 11. Love it WAY more than any other file explorer on Windows. And since I never did buy it back in the day I felt I needed to.
I've been a user of DOpus since the Amiga days (now on Windows). Best file explorer/manager on ANY system.
@@RobertTempleton64 I do agree 100%. Loved it back on The Amiga and can't live without it on the PC. It seems on Windows 11 it just got less useful.
@@RobertTempleton64 Ditto that, loved it on the Amiga and now on PC
Very expensive ....
DOpus wasn't an average file manager. On the Amiga it was system within the system. It could be customized to use external commandline tools to do virtually everything including open all sorts of files, play music, movies, decompress all sorts of archives. It only depended on user's creativity. I can't imagine using Amiga without DOpus. It was essential tool for me.
I enjoy your very informative videos Dan.. AmiKit X do i need the full version of Amiga Forever or just the Amber Essential s? I am a bit confused.I am just getting in to the Amiga not just the games the whole exsparance .I can,t wait for a full sized Amiga to come out.Keep up the good work Dan.
I had and Amiga500 in early 1990's. I miss it. Especially a game i had with a ball that should go through a lavel /$with/without ice
I would really liked if you had opened the video explaining why and to what someone would want to use this kit. Since i didn't know this OS, I got a little confused at first if there was a pratical use for it or if that was more of a nostalgic thing. But I liked the video either way... thanks for putting it together.
I had an old C64 and LOVED it and spent HOURS programming it, never had an Amiga
Brings back memories of when I had one.
I think I came across an earlier version of this software bundled into Amiga Forever. At the time I was both impressed and annoyed that I really liked the desktop environment, but I couldn't find a way to have it load up as the default and run all my programs through it. For a minute I thought the Pi version might be able to do the job (since with Linux you can generally use whatever DE software you like) but it seems to run on top of an existing one like the Windows version. One particular question comes to mind: with the PiStorm units that boost the speed and the resolution of the original Amiga hardware, would you be able to run Amigakit as a Workbench replacement natively?
I've never used an Amiga, and was born after its heyday, but it's always fascinated me how ahead of its time it was, and this looks like an awesome project.
How was the Amiga "ahead of its time"? It had a CPU from 1979. Blitters had existed before, pre-emptive multitasking had been in previous systems, GUIs and WIMP desktops had already been done. I can't think of a single Amiga feature which hadn't already been a feature of something else.
@@cloerenjackson3699 It took mainstream systems nearly 10 years to catch up, PCs weren't any where near until the mid nineties, stop been a bell3nd and learn the subject you're trying to talk about. All you are showing is your ignorance of the subject matter.
@@cloerenjackson3699 For a personal PC it was in fact ahead of its time, especially in the graphic and sound departments compared to IBM PC's. It could also multi-task with as little 512 megs of ram, try that today.
@@cloerenjackson3699 When released in 1985 it was years ahead of the IBM PC in graphics and sound capability with custom chips designed specifically for the Amiga.
@@billpii6314 You meant 512 kilobytes, not megabytes. The Cray-2 supercomputer also released in 1985 had 1 GB RAM and cost $16 million
that Pi 400 is looking like THE best option for a retro-computing enthusiast to get an Amiga experience in current times, that has a very high degree of athenticity about the experience of it all
There is no best option as people have different needs and expectations. For some it's emulators on PC that you can set up to run games by simply clicking a shortcut, Pis as small emulation boxes, FPGAs (can also be connected to CRT TVs and monitors relatively easy) or real hardware, with the last one being the most expensive option and hard to work around incompatibilities of OCS vs AGA machines without buying multiple systems or expensive upgrades.
You can spend looots of money on Amiga hardware and some people do. While I was interested in getting a real Amiga, one wouldn't be enough for all games and running games like Lionheart or Ambermoon via WinUAE custom configs for each game (loaded via Launchbox shortcuts) works perfectly fine. Can even run it in 15kHz modes like 320x200 on my CRT monitor thanks to custom resolutions (just had to make some like 320x200 @ 140 Hz) for glorious, real scanlines.
Not being able to use my original Amiga games is the only thing I'm sad about. But I also prefer using real hardware, why I'm using my old consoles and Retro PC more often than my MiSTer or emulators. Even using Everdrives feels slightly wrong.
Maybe the nicest, lightweight one, but not the cheapest anymore with the crazy price rise of Pi's. An old PC like the one in the video will cost you like a third of the price.
When I get a bit of spare time, that's what my Pi 400 will have loaded 👍
That’s exactly what I’m rocking. A Pi 400 with Pimiga it’s quite a nostalgic feeling 🤩
Not even close. ARM UAE is well behind Winuae. The performance is terrible in comparison to even throw away pcs. It has no ppc support. It has no 3d acceleration. It has no native code support. No ability to create custom screenmodes. No ability to set the host to custom resolutions and/or refresh rates as the original. Expensive in comparison. And so on and so forth.
Man this looks slick .. very update desktop.
Excellent video.
What setup is recommended for purely enjoying Amiga games?
Watching this video on the original Lenovo Carbon X1 from 2012 using UbuntuDDE. This is used on a DAILY basis. It's amazing what can be done with a lighter OS.
What sources for software are there these days? Back in the day I was quite an Amiga fan. I had a 500, 1000 with a lot of extra ram in a sidecar, two 2000's, all connected sharing a monitor. Flight sim software and role playing were my jam.
Amazing!
I never owned one, the Amstrad CPC6128 was my daily driver and still works. I just wish I could have added a hard drive to it.
Now I’m so used to MacOS and Linux, there’s very little to go back to the Amstrad for.
I appreciate you pointing out that it wouldn't be ideal for gaming. I was going to ask if the emulation overhead introduces any input lag to games of which one would notice it, such as DOOM. But perhaps RabbitHole would work just fine for running games compiled to run on the raspberry pi
He actually said that this is "overkill" if all you want to do is play a few old Amiga games or demos, which is true. You don't need anything this sophisticated just for doing that, and there are free options that will accomplish that for you. But Amikit X will play those games just as well as any other emulated Amiga on Pi or PC. It just happens to have everything but the kitchen sink thrown in to make it in to the 'ultimate' Amiga, for those who want more. Playing Amiga versions of demanding games that already exist on Windows or Linux is rarely going to fulfilling, other than just a technical "look at this" exercise. 😉
great memories Back then in the early 1990s, when compressed executables with Turbo imploder and Powerpacker, later with Disk Expander.. doin' some Music with oktalyzer and playing Games like rodland, superfrog and transplant..
This is the Workbench which I will be using on my real A4000T, BFG9060 and ZZ9000 soon!
Dopus 4 was the first thing I installed on any new Amiga build back in the day, then MagicMenu, then NewIcons or Glowicons, .... Dopus 4 was a coverdisk in AF of CU Amiga I think. I tried and tried with Dopus 5 but couldn't get on with it. What is it like at networking with a real Amiga?
Heh, that's funny: I just tweeted you while you made the PC version video...it showed up when you demonstrated Twitter on the Amiga ;-)
damn i used to dislike amikit, but this looks incredible. amazing video dan, I really love how you are pushing this stuff. I feel like I should have done stuff like this, but no need with Dan doing it very well. Still miss diskmaster tho, Dopus was always a second resort for me :) damn ibrowse is still going! got a key somewhere :) lol no css. we do need to write a good lightweight browser, port of chrome. I wrote a browser for windows once in 23k!.. i wonder if we met on irc, i call it AM-IRC. I just wish I could live in amiga again them days were the best times, but these days im so involved with tinkering in and out of games and apps i need windows for, soon as im in amiga i need to leave to tinker. look great on pi. oh man i miss IconX!.. im almost forgetting it. Thanks for a good viewing mate, I did have high end, in fact I still do, will reboot my towered power amiga in UK soon :))))
Still don't see a reason for it myself. Amiga Forever can do the same thing as this more or less.
@@maxxdahl6062 well i guess its amiga forever supercharged. AF you get a few apps and ppaint but you dont get a tenth of what amikit gives u, and the preconfiguration etc. which can literally take decades to get right.
@@TYNEPUNK I didn't have much trouble at all with configuration myself. Only part I got hung up on was doing an HDD install.
I was just thinking about this. Using an old laptop.
Amikit takes the fun out of intalling Workbench :(
It makes you learn the AmigaOS ways if you install Workbench from scratch using WinUAE followed by any other components you require. Nice to see a kit can be used too for anyone that doesnt have a few hours free to learn
Awesome.
Hi Dan - have you also tried Flower Pot? Is it good? And does it also include Rabbit Hole?
This really is the kitchen sink of bundles. I wish they offered a slim version so we can build up the additions that we want.
Recently tried WinUAE it runs ok.
I've recently purchased the new AtariVCS and have installed Ubuntu on a jump drive on it and used it quite successfully for my various emulation needs. I might try to get a second jump drive set up to boot AmiKit though. I might want to test it with the older free version first to be sure it will work, unless it's considerably harder to set up. Any thoughts?
Yay for Tyrian!!!
Gongrats Dan for promoting emulation, by far the cheapest and easyest way to get into amiga, and possibly the future of amiga computing!
I agree 100%. I'm encouraging people to try out emulation. Amiga emulation nowadays is almost perfect. FS-UAE is my favourite for years now. There's no need of buying super expensive real Amigas unless you want the real thing so badly. Emulators are doing well and they're convenient. You don't have to buy more electronic junk, because it can be done on a computer you already have at home.
I always preferred to set up Amiga manually myself and never used these pre-made ones.
One thing i should test is benchmarking UAE on my AMD Ryzen 9 CPU in Sysinfo or similar.
Could be a 10.000 Mhz 68060..lol
I see MorphOS 3.16 is out Dan. Coincidentally, I have/had 3.15 on a macmini but the last few days I've been playing with Linux PPC distros on the mini. Not satisfied, I'm installing 3.15 again from a burned DVD I made when it was released. Whilst doing all this I'm looking at MorphOS websites and notice 3.16 is out!
If you kill the windows explorer process, would that help you hide windows?
Great video by the way
Awesome
Cheers for the informative video, I'm wondering if there is a way to get the paula 8bit chip as an external sampler via a pi or any other way to just run samples through that and back into my pc?
Yes, Wow!
Great stuff i got the Amiga Forever 9 Value Edition and made a contrabution to the Amikit and all i am gettings pay for upgrades no rom key etc and i have made sure the paths are correct and i have got AF installed. any ideas? or do i just go back to playing on my A500 and leave it at that :D
Hello.
With the audio
Has it been updated to 16 bit ?
For example if I used a programme called Octamed that used original amigo audio at 8 bit would the option be to use 16 bit?
Can I use this to download animations I originally created in Deluxe Paint III in the 90’s? I sold the Amiga ages ago, but I still have a stack of floppies in a box somewhere. Is it just a case of plugging in a usb floppy drive (which I have), or will it require extra steps?
Cool kit, Dan! We want to make one. The Pi400 version look like the ticket!
Th you.
I have been using DO for decades it seems. It is without question the best file manager on any platform, hands down, full stop!!!
What has AWeb done to you ;) Did you test how well that internet browser worked with CSS and modern websites?
Thank you for showing us this new version of AmiKit
Honestly looking at this, I think Pimiga is the better option. If you want 'seamless', Pimiga will boot directly into the Amiga environment - and it's free.
Boots into Scalos - not into Workbench
I wish I could have seen what 1990 programmers could have done with 16 5GHz out of order cores with 72MB cache on the die and 16GB/s memory bandwidth. The closest I can get to that is booting DOS 6.22 on my 3950x and running Doom for DOS.
i still have my old Amiga a1500, including all the original stuff like power supply mouse etc... sadly i have none of the discs... how would you recommend i start with resurrecting it... it's been stored safely in a sturdy plastic crate since the early 2000's, but i don't wanna just power it on without making sure i'm not going to damage it... is there a guide somewhere for someone in my position.... thanks in advance for any reply
From a data preservation statndpoint, you may want to get a crack for WindowBlinds as you can't activate it anymore?
I've got still some Aminet CDs lying around somewhere.
I've had no end of trouble trying to get AmiKit X onto a Mac. Even when I got around the macOS specific issues and got a 3.9 OS CD, it just fails after installation.
To get rid of all the Windows 7 appearance, go to "advanced Setting, Performance, then select Adjust for best performance. It will look a good bit more like the Amiga. (Basic Windows appearance from decades gone by. You can adjust the colors, also, in "Preferences")
I really love the Amiga System. Can they make it open source or sell laptop with 2023 Amiga Software?
It can read from shared drives and usb sticks, utilising usb ports?? It's fully integrated with windows/mac underneath?
And with one of those sweet dual core pentiums. Nice!
I need to the pi version. I have a 400 sitting on the desk here.
I'd love to use my old PC as an Amiga! But when I went looking for the free version to try - I'm either blind or dull as I couldn't find it.. If anyone reading this, can link it.. Thanks.. But besides that - This looks like something I'd more than pay to get as it looks amazing.. Just to be able to live my classic Amiga days, be well worth it !! great vid..
Thank you for this, Going to be adding the Amiga to my 300 gb romset collection, which includes complete libraries of Atari, nes, snes, genesis, gba, ds, psp. Also included are obscure titles and top players choice for psx, gamecube, wii, N64 with romhacks like Smash Remix, and dreamcast. Still in progress; ps2, ps3, and old abandonware pc games ie Blazing Angles pc release. I don't really emulate xbox or xbox 360 as Microsoft already turned my One X into the ultimate emulation machine for that. Of course, I have emulators to run everything. Now I'll welcome the Amiga!
Haven't tried Amikit since version 8, I did like it but found it to be a bit unstable at times. How is the stability nowadays, does it still crash out from time to time?
Which version do you recommend? I have a Raspberry Pi 400 and a good Laptop to chuck this on.
Wasn't there more or less an easier option with Amiga Forever?
Hello. there some way to you extract or tell me where i can find the wallpaper on 12:09?
Piamiga 2 is free on the raspberry pi 4 but this is interesting as well
I used to have an a500 along with the commodore 1084 monitor...
Wow!
I think I will try the free one first. Then if I like it and want it I can pay for one of the new versions. They do have a good selection of packages to choose from and I feel that trying the old one may help decide if I want to pay for it or just go back to Linux or Windows. I never had an Amiga but I had heard they are legendary machines (or were).
00:26 Haha, who didn’t have that exact same wallpaper?
Best thing I can remember is the toaster card in the Amiga.
Dan, any chance of making a tutoorial for Amibian 1.5EE. The only one I can find on YT is in German.