the owen smg is a gun made by a child then left in a shed somewhere before it got found by someone with gov connections who knew australia needed some kind of smg
I'm Brazilian, our police used to be forced to use Taurus guns, and i think you were wrong about them, proper garbage would be better at shooting than a Taurus manufactured gun.
There needs to be a mod called "Mike's Dream Gun." It's a Pancor Jackhammer with a ton of holes in it, and the moment he fires it, the gun just explodes
@@michaelt1931 unfortunately, I would need to rewatch all of the New Vegas videos to discern all of the gun mods they use, but you SHOULD be able to find them on the Nexus.
Id give the series a try. That actually have some pretty interesting conversations, not just about guns, but life in the military as well. Its really interesting to listen to.
Quick correction on the L96A1, it wasn't three guys in a shed, it was four guys and one girl in a shed. The fact that they managed to pull that stunt off was nothing short of a miracle.
@@GeneralKenobiSIYE It's more like an episode of It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia. A paraphrase of my third favorite scene from S4E2, with critical levels of cringe: "Oh my god I just realized something. Frank is the muscle." "What?" "The reason that shit hasn't been working out for us is because we are not working with our full crew! I'm the brain, your the looks, Charlie's the wildcard, and Frank is the muscle." "Well what's Dee?" "She's the useless chick!" "Ohh!" "Yeah! You see, we complete it! We all complete the team! Now, if we stick together, we can do anything. Frank, question, did you really submit the rifle to the military?" "Ohho you bet your ass, I convinced them we're a major arms company by renting out a warehouse for a weekend." "Well shit if the government says so we must be a major arms company."
There's also the Barrett M82A1 that was made by a photographer because he wanted to shoot .50 cal guns and there wasn't any commercially available and like said story with the British rifle he worked with a small group in a garage to make it and the rest is history about the legendary .50 cal Anti Material Rifle.
So, one guy knows a lot about guns, and the other guy is capable of holding any conversation, regardless of how much he knows about. It's a delightful dynamic.
@@Sgtassburgler some of what he says is a bit sketch, honestly. From what I understand roller delayed blowback systems don't really cause an increase in recoil - the MP5 is considered an extremely low recoil SMG even by SMG standards, and it uses a roller-delayed blowback system. Wouldn't it be notorious for higher than average recoil if a roller-delayed blowback system really increased recoil? G3 does have a mean recoil but I thought that was because of the caliber rather than the roller-delayed blowback system.
@@VynalDerp Maybe the large caliber effects the roller-delayed blowback system? You know, small calibers are better for that type of system, while larger calibers aren't. Or perhaps it has something to do with weight distribution? I don't really know.
@@chrisb5005 i've shot both an M1A and a PTR (G3 clone) and they recoil the same. In general, roller delayed blowback just means you can have a shorter gun and a light receiver in exchange for a heavy bolt. The increased mass of the reciprocating bolt would theoretically mean you have more muzzle flip, but because the blowback is delayed, the recoil impulse is less and it ends up canceling out, making the PTR a softer shooting rifle with a little bit more muzzle flip. This dude knows a decent amount about guns but the fact that he's sperging over modded assets in a 10-year-old RPG made on the Oblivion engine is pretty annoying.
@@VynalDerp The MP5 is considered a soft recoiling SMG as most other SMGs are of simple blowback design. In a simple blowback system the only thing that keeps the breech closed is the inertia of the bolt ant the strength of the recoil spring, this results in a typically higher bolt speed which in turn increases felt recoil. Delayed blowback rifles, 7.62 nato one in particular, tend to have higher extraction pressures and bolt speeds then gas operated rifles of the same calibre and thus higher felt recoil.
@@staffsgtsarge Yes, but unlike in the video I do not believe a roller-delayed blowback system is the issue, note in the video he says "especially" as if it somehow makes the recoil worse?
Usually the people that are around guns a lot get past the honeymoon phase of guns are the best thing since sliced bread, and treat them more like tools, especially military guys. So, pretty solid
@@Zach_Hazard hey, hey, hey, heyyyy.... Sometimes it's a cheap hole punch. My first gun was an absolute GARBAGE Savage 69 12 gauge. It cost 40$ in 2008, and somebody tried to add a new sight, which they drilled through completely, and which blew off like a teeny tiny rocket the first time I put a slug through it, thus adding a NEW HOLE!!! I also thought it was gonna banana peel when I put magnum 00 buck in, but it somehow survived. I still have it, it's under my laundry... I think...
I recently played an old game that had the Jackhammer as the default shotgun. The first guy I killed who had one got his gun glitched in the ground and I had to leave the area quickly due to the horrible noise it made
Since you covered that I’ll cover the Duplet. It’s a double barrel shotgun from the metro series. It’s the first shotgun you get, and an absolute workhorse for taking down mutants in the early part of the game until you get something like the bicycle gun or the Shambler.
I have to admit, my mind IMMEDIATELY went to PA-Luty's book, homemade expedient firearms, which is a detailed guide sent to the British Gov to prove anyone could build an SMG
"Yeah, this was really more of a formality, we just wanted to make sure you weren't 3 guys in a shed." "HAHAHAHAHA! _Oh my God, we're in so much trouble!"_ This had me literally on my floor because I was laughing so hard.
I really thought of Ian and Karl on Inrange when they said, after the knowledgeable dude was trying to explain the sights on the AN-94, "Yes, it's a weird gun! that's why I picked it up!" and then "weird doesn't always mean better"
"You ever try to kill a plant with a gun its not very effective" -Zach "You cant garden with a shotgun" -James May "Oh yeah? *Bang* Look at that, they have CEASED TO EXIST"-Jeremy Clarkson, using a shotgun to remove weeds circa the early 2000s.
I can imagine this happening in actual Fallout where two dudes are going around killing things and arguing about the guns they loot from the bodies of the raiders and poor sods they happen to come across.
Obligatory comment about how the Pancor Jackhammer was a weapon featured in Fallout 2, so canonically that Pancor Jackhammer has a valid reason to exist in the Fallout universe.
if only pre war american gun companies just waited a bit until they figured out how to make the AA12. then again, the riot shotgun does the exact same thing.
Too bad that Pancor Jackhammer was underpowered when you were able to find it. Unlike winchester city-killker and hk caws shotguns that deal less damage like 3 minimum and 4 max, but you get them earlier and easier.
@@francesco3772 Pancor jackhammer is alot rarer since you have to defeat two enclave troops in new reno or hope to get it in specific random encounter near redding or broken hills or buy it san francisco. But winchester city killer and hk caws are obtained earlier and easier for slightly less damage and less range, but they're obtained when other choices for burst fire rifles are only the ak112 and fn fal which use rare ammo type in that point in the game. While pancor jackhammer has to compete against near endgame weapons.
Congratulations on completely missing the point. He said "I hate it because it's not a real gun and doesn't exist, and everyone always insists on putting it in videogames like it's some kind of mythical god-shotgun" The contention was that it exists in the game in the first place, not the mod.
It's not like he's even the first Russian to do so (see: Nagant revolver and Mosin-Nagant rifle, though how Nagant's name ended up attached to the rifle is a long story)
Too bad y’all didn’t mention how the knarly ass Owen gun was designed. So here y’all go if your interested. Basically there was this kid living in Australia (Owen) and he loved designing guns. So he was 12 and he was like “I’m gonna build a machine gun!”; builds the first Owen Gun and just shoots it and messes around and makes it pretty badass. A few years go by and guess what WW2 starts, he joins the Australian Army and gets shipped off to Africa, leaving his cool machine gun in his garage. Now Australia was having a very large shortage of EVERYTHING in the first years of the war, including rifles, tanks, uniforms, and especially SMGs. They were using only Thompsons and they were going broke buying those so they needed a new home grown design. Basically Owen’s mom is going through her garage and finds a fucking machine gun. She’s like “Hmm maybe I should tell someone” so she calls the Army and they show up and see it and go “Damn, badass”. They put it through trial and boom, new machine gun, cooked up by a 12 year old in his garage. Ends up being the Aussie Army standard SMG until like the 1980s.
Accuracy international just kinda sounds like it’s 3 guys out of a shed. “Hey we need to come up with a name for our company” “I don’t know. Accuracy..... International”
Another interesting fact about the Sten gun, they were dropped, disassembled, all over France for resistance fighters - the reason for that is because they were so easy to assemble, they could fit more in drops.
They also dropped a whole bunch all over northern Italy for partisans and a lot of em got captured by the RSI, you can find pics of a whole platoon of dudes all carrying captured Stens.
at one point you could buy a kit of sheet metal books pre cut in such a way so you just had to punch out and bend the parts to make a fully functioning sten...
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest (but would amuse me a lot) if it was revealed that NCR rangers and Legion decani have these kinds of weapon conversations and arguments regularly.
@@buddyj5VCO That, or they just insult eachothers guns until the one guy walks in with a pancor jackhammer, and that man is promptly shot on sight by everyone at said meeting. Its an elaborate set-up to rid the wastes of pancor jackhammers.
my headcanon is that zach and mike were from the Ncr and the legion respectably and mike just stopped being evil (insert reason here) and got out of the legion, Caesar didn't like it so he putted him on a bounty/marked for death and zach just go out for everyone being incompetent, they meet each other and now they just go on the mojave getting a lot of adventures -someone who just watched from episode 90-now
@@joshuakim5240 This is Fallout. A know-it-all gun nerd would promptly die in an ironic way. Heck, he'd probably be one of those terminal-diary stories, where he died in an ironic way long before you ever got there.
Best part about the Jackhammer is how the inventor never got around to figuring out the magazine system, so to reload you need to dissassemble it to pull the drum out. He never got around to dissassembly either, so you need a screwdriver to get it apart.
The two that were sent in for military testing both did, but the military destroyed both of them in the course of *very extensive* testing. The surviving example was the first prototype.
As someone mentioned, forgotten weapons DID do a video on it and they apparently cycled thousands of rounds without a problem. They destroyed them some other way though...
@@tfwthelsdkicksin6083 Ask any soldier and you'll got a strong negative on that dude. Soldiers the world over are constantly complaining about busted equipment, held together by duct tape and angry mechanics.
It’s another way of saying, minimum acceptable standard. It’s generally just durable enough and reliable enough to get the job down at a reasonable per unit price.
@@mitchwilliamson5552 Most soldiers are pretty rough on their guns, it's definitely not an environment conducive to longevity of the equipment. It's a large part of why the M9 copped such a poor reputation in the US military, most of what they shot were during training on the range so frequently older and heavily used and abused already so more prone to malfunction. Then too it wasn't a 1911 or American and that doesn't go down well with some so they were predisposed to hate it, but then too the 1911 is so ancient as a design it's had plenty of time to have the kinks worked out and mitigated if not fully prevented such as the hammer bite.
"Did the Germans or the Russians invent it?" "...It's an American shotgun." "Oh so it was made by Heckler and Weston?" "No it was made by MOSSBERG! WHERE ARE YOU EVEN GETTING THIS FROM???"
23:49 that, my friend, is a Borz, a Chechnyan homemade SMG based on an Armenian bootleg of the PPSh-41. There's a pretty large amount of variance, as they were homemade or churned out of various independant machine shops for use in the first and second Chechen wars. Also, holy shit I recognized a gun Zach didn't. Most didn't have the fancy knurling on the back, but the one used for reference by the mod-maker in question did. Iirc, it was one used by his father or other family member in the war.
Didn’t the Germans have several variants of the same planes that had a range of different guns/cannons most of which didn’t use a standard ammo type so each ammo type was specific for the model of plane which made just basic logistics a nightmare?
For the first 5 minutes I thought they were just role-playing two soldiers or something like that in fallout NV, then I read the comments and realized they were just two dudes talking about guns, still feels like two soldiers talking while they are on duty
"Standing for words in Russian that I don't understand, PKM is an acronym." Holy shit this guy's great, thank you algorithm for bringing this gem to me
Is something like "pulmeyot kalashnikova moderniziovanny" which translates roughly to klashnikov's machine gun modernised. Mikhail Kalashnikov is the same person who designed the ak 47 and with a team design the pkm. The pkm is basically an ak flipped upside down and made to feed from a belt
@@CruelestChris right translation would be "Automatic rifle of Kalashnikov". "Avtomat" is a word that can be used for any automatic weapon that is not LMG, MG, or a pistol because in gun context it means "anything that is fired from two hands and goes 'pew' rapidly enough"
“Do you hate that guy over there and you want him to be absolutely suppressed for the next 3 1/2 minutes?” I don’t know man, you’d probably want everyone at Fort Polk suppressed.
@Age Restrictions I was actually born there when my dad was an MP in Central America. His 'shift' ended and we moved away before I could remember anything of the place. Tell me then, how bad is my birth place?
@Juni Post trademark is just a registration on the name/branding, so whether it works or not would have nothing to do with it. What you're referring to would probably be patents or copyright.
Pretty much all guns that arent single fire only, stop working after you fill them with dirt and fire one shot. Thing is that AKs are pretty easy to fix and cleanup, 6 steps to disassemble and no special tools required, give them a wash and its good to go again
CdrChaos It's one of life's great mysteries isn't it? Why are we here? I mean, are we the product of some cosmic coincidence, or is there really a God watching everything? You know, with a plan for us and stuff. I don't know, man, but it keeps me up at night.
@@chancellorforrun2330 And Bad Company 2. Although the thing was monstrous in BF3 and I loved it. It's still weird to think that it's meant as a marksman weapon, not an SMG though. At least the Vintorez was. Also the furniture is so gorgeous.
The "Duplet" is a made-from-scraps double-barrel shotgun commonly seen in the Metro games. It's like the fantasy shotgun version of the real-life sten gun for SMGs.
Ok, found this channel about 12 hours ago and as a navy vet, I immediately love these men's stories and began watching for the last 3 hours. Thanks for being awesome guys
@@vincentmercades1687 It's whatever arbitrary system the company came up with. Common themes are year it was designed or put into service, length of the barrel, and caliber, but that doesn't actually mean any company follows this strictly at all.
eh, the actual pancor was REALLY dam useful and theoretically an excellent weapon for what it was designed for. basically a couple guys got back from 'nam and made a gun that did everything they WISHED their gun could do while they were over there ranging from just straight up actually firing when you pull the trigger (you'd be amazed at how many military issue weapons don't do a great job of that even under optimal conditions) to some neat tricks like having an ammo magazine that converts into an antipersonnel landmine. only known downside was being rather on the heavy side since they heavily focused on reliability in the design. in this case only *known* downside is a real qualification though since they only made like, 3, ever. and put all of them through destructive testing, the people who actually did the testing absolutely loved the thing. the only stated reason it wasn't put into full on production is because they didn't think that the people who made it could transition out of the "guys in a garage" stage (literal in their case) and turn into an actual manufacturing company, since this is pretty blatant bullshit theories as to an actual reason abound ranging from plausible to downright silly as tends to be the case with anything that has a big public presence. the "one that exists" is, if I remember correctly, actually a mock-up put together from leftover parts and what was left of the actual prototypes after testing, don't remember if it even shoots but it's definitely not the actual gun that was designed built and tested. oh! right, the reason it gets mentioned EVERYWHERE is because the remaining one ended up in the right person's collection and mock-ups ended up in all sorts of movies, and then in all sorts of videogames once graphics got past the pong stage. it looks a weird mix of futuristc and solid-and-practical that just sorta automatically says "special gun, good special gun" to people.
@@masterzoroark6664 the mechanism for arming it as a mine has no interaction with it's function as a magazine...come to think of it I can't remember how that doodad is stored...I _think_ it's a ring set into the front of the magazine that you transfer over to the back of it, can't remember if that was the mine arming part or something else off the top of my head and I honestly don't want to spend the evening looking this thing up again, last time I let myself go down that rabbit hole I ran into all sorts of made up bullshit in between the little bits of actual information. ^ it's been a media thing far more than it ever got a chance to be a real thing and it really shows, not as bad as trying to look up tesla but still pretty bad. just going off the top of my head aside from the obvious problem of it being heavy it'd probably have some maintainence issues: there's a lot of empty space inside that shell.
@@evernewb2073 Definetly would be a bitch to maintain. Multiple firemode guns with bunch of moving parts or empty spaces are annoying to clean. And that mine thing... this kinda sound complicated, but they might have idea to make it usable by avrage Joe.
I just had a "WTF!? That's kinda cool" moment when I saw the video timeline all chopped up into segments, moused over it and realized that the segments are NAMED for the weapons he's talking about! When was this feature added and why have I not seen ANYONE else use it!?
its something youtube put without telling everybody, like changing the place where were the coments in phone (before the comments were in the very bottom of the recomend, and is in the very top of the recomendation) sorry for my engrish.
i use these gun rants as background noise while i paint my nails and i feel i have to thank you for how well they have been turning out this last two months
"This gun is awesome because [fill in the blank]." "So it's better than all the other guns? Why arent all guns like that then?" "Well because it has disadvantages like [fill in blank]." "So it's not really that great then, is it?" "No, it's not." Yep, that's what firearms philosophy eventually boils down to. Almost every gun is perfect, and shitty, at the same time. There are none that are only perfect, but some that are only shitty.
I don’t know shit about guns, and I never really found the topic interesting until this guy started explaining them. These two are super entertaining in general, though- I feel like their dynamic could make any topic at least mildly amusing.
Americans today: _"There is absolutely no reason to make a light infantry weapon that is in .308 full auto."_ Americans in the 50s: _"Big bullet go boom, or you're a commie."_
" Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary" Karl Marx "I see no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons,” Ronald Reagan
Zach is just your average gun loving American who can probably pick up almost any gun and tell you how it works and who made it. I have an uncle who is a bit like Zach, he knows a lot about guns and he even knows how to build some of them.
@@monkewithagat8733 most Americans I've met (and I live in the South) are nowhere near as knowledgeable about firearms. Most might own a pistol for self defense and never train with it. The percentage of Americans that go out of their way to be sufficiently armed, trained, and educated about all sorts of weapon platforms is quite low compared to the percentage of people that own a gun but aren't really "armed" Does that make sense?
They reminded me of Naked Snake and Sigint codex calls in MGS3 “What are you using now?” “This is a [weapon’s name] [long but intriguing facts about it]”
plus all the weird one like if you somehow manage equip/use the cardboard box as a weapon(somehow) they somehow have lines for it and its not like here is a few quirky lines just to make sure the game dont crash... nope its a full codex call.
Watching these videos it's very apparent that Zach is a well qualified and knowledgeable armorer. However, it's also apparent he's not very good at explaining that knowledge to someone else who just isn't anywhere near his level.
If i wanted to get an old used 12 gauge, id get an 870, if i wanted a new one, id get a 500. If i wanted an old used truck, id get a chevy, if i wanted to get a new one id get a ford. It kinda works like that imo
@@somepersonwhowatchesandhas5198 the fact that Taurus is famous for making shitty, cheap guns while also being a brazilian company(I'm brazilian too) makes me embarrassed
Taurus pt92 is modelled off old m92 designs (when beretta owned the factory) they increased the mag capacity by 2 has parts built for it and only for it and the BOPE has chosen it as it's pistol of choice (and if you go over to hickok45's channel he does a review of it)
@@hop-skip-ouch8798 It's a channel about two guys messing around and riffing off of each other while playing fallout. I definitely recommend it, if you found this interesting!
Some people lack a basic ability to suspend their belief. Even if that's not how something works in real life, you generally can't see the internals-design behind what's in-game. For example, the pancor IS real, and IRL you DO have to take off the entire baseplate to reload it. In most games though the cylinder housing is just designed to open, which would be a quick fix. Too many 'gunsmiths' retooling ARs for a living for creativity or enginuity to exist in entertainment.
@@courier6448 left handed bolt action rifle and 44 magnum with cylinder spinning despite hammer being cocked. Water cooled 200 year old lmg called assault rifle that is futuristic for some reason. Shotgun with drum at the end of the barrel. Lever action rifle reloading 5 rounds every time cuz bug
@@hz883 The "Assault rifle" in particulair peeves me, when you remember previous installments had m4 pattern rifles, and even proper lmgs, so a giant watercooled piece of junk has no place in the universe as a military adopted Assault rifle.
Strangely enough, they made only 3 in existence. Zach found 2 out of three, so when he finds the third and final one, he can melt them down and be rid of the Pancor Jackhammer.
Holes in guns are kinda like vents in a house. it makes it a whole lot better with a few, but if you start putting 200 of them in the house, your gonna freeze to death in the winter, or all the cool air will leave the house in the summer, and now your being evicted from your home due to immense property damage. don't put too many holes in your gun, kids.
Fun fact: Duplet (Дуплет) means doublet, which essentially refers to the double barrel. Most of you probably figured this out already, though, most likely.
as your upstairs neighbor, its been a blast learning from you guys, not much of a lets play guy so its def the content i prefer along with the campfire stories im really hoping for more lol
@@kynto There were some others, I think 2 more? Some of (?) the others were functional and was tested but was later destroyed for reasons idk The one that exists right now is a garage prototype that doesn't have a practical magazine removal
@@kynto check out Forgotten Weapons, they got their hands on one and fully covered it, it’s history, as well as all of the other versions, although I believe theirs only two.
6:08 you mentioned the Beretta brand of guns and helped me epiphany to find a replica model to a gun my late dad and I took apart and refurbished together on the weekends I went to his place. I know you probably won't see this comment; but It means a lot to me since my step-mom is withholding the firearm from me. Thank you so much for using your knowledge.
Yes, I am aware I got some things wrong, but in my defense I was going off my faulty human memory and not consulting references.
Regardless, it was highly entertaining.
the owen smg is a gun made by a child then left in a shed somewhere before it got found by someone with gov connections who knew australia needed some kind of smg
I'm Brazilian, our police used to be forced to use Taurus guns, and i think you were wrong about them, proper garbage would be better at shooting than a Taurus manufactured gun.
@@Chambs_15 good to know even the Brazilians don't like Taurus haha
Watched the video about a week or two ago, if I'm not forgetting things you were mostly right, like 95% of the time
"So I'm going to go on a slight rant about guns"
**Makes a 43 minute rant about guns**
I love Zach
43 minutes my god
@@anotherkilleramongst no
[everyone liked that]
tough on the lips easy on the heart GO BACK
@@anotherkilleramongst *blinks* what
This sounds like a dialogue between two guards or something out of metal gear codec calls.
Hey, Natasha was there on MGS1. You want female Zach, just hit her freq while holding any hun.
You got me in this
Mother fucking mood, this is like Snake geeking out about guns if he were a shitposter.
norska Jesse what the hell are you talking about
Oh god! I just imagined Snake talking to otacon about guns and their history
There needs to be a mod called "Mike's Dream Gun." It's a Pancor Jackhammer with a ton of holes in it, and the moment he fires it, the gun just explodes
Do u kno name of the mod in this vid? That includes making enemy npc’s have modern weapons like he does in the vid?
@@michaelt1931 it's actually a multitude of mods, not just one. They all require the New Weapon Animations mod, though
@@Nextad_ ah, any idea where i can find this list? Or a similar good mod/weapon mod list?
@@michaelt1931 unfortunately, I would need to rewatch all of the New Vegas videos to discern all of the gun mods they use, but you SHOULD be able to find them on the Nexus.
@@michaelt1931 weapons of the new millenia. It's on the nexus.
“Do you have a shotgun with the cheese grater on it?”
You have no idea how much I want to walk into a gun store and ask that question now.
Gun store owner: what
Yup
I have a 12 ga cheese grater, and I desperately want to buy another for the same reason
I wanna ask the gun store owner that question now
I can get you a bean holder, if that'll satisfy ya.
first time I've watched a 43 minute video about New Vegas lol
May allahu bless the ground you step on
Good to see you donut
How’d you you end up here?
I was not expecting to see you here
Has this also been in your recommended videos for like a year?
I've never heard of this guy before, this was just in my recommended.
His enthusiasm for guns is infectious though
Id give the series a try. That actually have some pretty interesting conversations, not just about guns, but life in the military as well. Its really interesting to listen to.
Same here lol
@@atastybeverage8916 what is the series called?
@@kendyer8761 new vegas multiplayer, with a heck of a lot of mods.
Super infectious, i want to hear more and laugh at shenanigans.
Quick correction on the L96A1, it wasn't three guys in a shed, it was four guys and one girl in a shed. The fact that they managed to pull that stunt off was nothing short of a miracle.
Yea fr how did they even explain after the fact, did they get in trouble? Imma have to Google it this shit sounds nutty
Sound like American dream 😂😂😂
@@memesfromdeepspace1075 Which makes it even funnier that it's a British weapon
@@GeneralKenobiSIYE It's more like an episode of It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia. A paraphrase of my third favorite scene from S4E2, with critical levels of cringe:
"Oh my god I just realized something. Frank is the muscle."
"What?"
"The reason that shit hasn't been working out for us is because we are not working with our full crew! I'm the brain, your the looks, Charlie's the wildcard, and Frank is the muscle."
"Well what's Dee?"
"She's the useless chick!"
"Ohh!"
"Yeah! You see, we complete it! We all complete the team! Now, if we stick together, we can do anything. Frank, question, did you really submit the rifle to the military?"
"Ohho you bet your ass, I convinced them we're a major arms company by renting out a warehouse for a weekend."
"Well shit if the government says so we must be a major arms company."
You know, I saw a video about 4 guys and one girl in a shed.
Wasn’t about guns though
Ok but "3 dudes in a shed make the british military's best rifles" sounds like a mash up of horrible histories and monty python
I would pay money to see that
@@epitaph4606 Same
There's also the Barrett M82A1 that was made by a photographer because he wanted to shoot .50 cal guns and there wasn't any commercially available and like said story with the British rifle he worked with a small group in a garage to make it and the rest is history about the legendary .50 cal Anti Material Rifle.
@@JTruong3rd I thought that was the story for the Desert Eagle?
@@atomicspartan131 dont know about the DEagle but this that story is accurate for the Barrett rifle
So, one guy knows a lot about guns, and the other guy is capable of holding any conversation, regardless of how much he knows about. It's a delightful dynamic.
@@Sgtassburgler some of what he says is a bit sketch, honestly. From what I understand roller delayed blowback systems don't really cause an increase in recoil - the MP5 is considered an extremely low recoil SMG even by SMG standards, and it uses a roller-delayed blowback system. Wouldn't it be notorious for higher than average recoil if a roller-delayed blowback system really increased recoil? G3 does have a mean recoil but I thought that was because of the caliber rather than the roller-delayed blowback system.
@@VynalDerp Maybe the large caliber effects the roller-delayed blowback system? You know, small calibers are better for that type of system, while larger calibers aren't. Or perhaps it has something to do with weight distribution? I don't really know.
@@chrisb5005 i've shot both an M1A and a PTR (G3 clone) and they recoil the same. In general, roller delayed blowback just means you can have a shorter gun and a light receiver in exchange for a heavy bolt. The increased mass of the reciprocating bolt would theoretically mean you have more muzzle flip, but because the blowback is delayed, the recoil impulse is less and it ends up canceling out, making the PTR a softer shooting rifle with a little bit more muzzle flip. This dude knows a decent amount about guns but the fact that he's sperging over modded assets in a 10-year-old RPG made on the Oblivion engine is pretty annoying.
@@VynalDerp The MP5 is considered a soft recoiling SMG as most other SMGs are of simple blowback design. In a simple blowback system the only thing that keeps the breech closed is the inertia of the bolt ant the strength of the recoil spring, this results in a typically higher bolt speed which in turn increases felt recoil.
Delayed blowback rifles, 7.62 nato one in particular, tend to have higher extraction pressures and bolt speeds then gas operated rifles of the same calibre and thus higher felt recoil.
@@staffsgtsarge Yes, but unlike in the video I do not believe a roller-delayed blowback system is the issue, note in the video he says "especially" as if it somehow makes the recoil worse?
_"What is with you and wanting to put holes in things?"_ *Said the gun enthusiast*
I just realized that if you boil it down, gun enthusiasts like really expensive hole punching tools.
@@Zach_Hazard or very expensive paper weights.
Usually the people that are around guns a lot get past the honeymoon phase of guns are the best thing since sliced bread, and treat them more like tools, especially military guys. So, pretty solid
@@Zach_Hazard hey, hey, hey, heyyyy.... Sometimes it's a cheap hole punch. My first gun was an absolute GARBAGE Savage 69 12 gauge. It cost 40$ in 2008, and somebody tried to add a new sight, which they drilled through completely, and which blew off like a teeny tiny rocket the first time I put a slug through it, thus adding a NEW HOLE!!! I also thought it was gonna banana peel when I put magnum 00 buck in, but it somehow survived. I still have it, it's under my laundry... I think...
@@superbroadcaster yeah that's not true
37:51 Mike was right.
They just found another Pancor Jackhammer earlier this year. There's 2 of them now!
Now that's epic
NOBODY TELL ZACH!
The Pancor Jackglamour.
Theres three now just checked google
I recently played an old game that had the Jackhammer as the default shotgun. The first guy I killed who had one got his gun glitched in the ground and I had to leave the area quickly due to the horrible noise it made
The living embodiment of:
"You like guns?""Name every gun then!"
*PROCEEDS TO NAME EVERY GUN EVER!*
the like you got
Someone did that on twitter
@@jblockman_59nunyabidnis68 witch part the yoda or that someone got this in twitter
@@ccoccp6640 someone commented the name of every gun ever made on a "oh so you're pro 2nd amendment? Name every gun" post.
@@jblockman_59nunyabidnis68
I am a true 2nd amendment American pennsyltucckey who is always around weapons
(Zach has shared with you dozens of facts about guns, whether you wanted to know them or not.)
Condescension lol
But I did want the gun facts
Until i hear it, i thought i dont want it, but i realized i need this!!! This is best contents next to their campfire stories
i now understand the sub in sub-machine gun
Haha guns go pewpew.
"A laser sight on a pistol that's 80 years old."
Have you ever heard of Resident Evil 4?
Funni
Won two world wars tho
@@hodd. we speakin' bout the 1911 ?
"Got some rare things on sale, stranger."
I was talking about the Red9 but I guess the 1911 works.
"I'm gonna go on a slight rant about guns here"
The trilogy: *2 hours, 21 minutes, and 7 seconds later...*
Tack on another hour and 20 minutes because part 4 is out now.
Yea you might wanna update this comment
So it's *3 hours 43 minutes, and 12 seconds.*
tack on yet another hour and 15 minutes (and eight seconds if we're being specific) because there's a part five now.
theres a new ep
24:00 "It looks like it was made at home"
This is a Borz SMG. Chechen homemade for rebel fighters, so yes. It WAS actually made at home.
@@robertshaffer6312 Hey better than nothing at all.
@@MasterAssasin63 I dunno, empty hands have the element of surprise.
Since you covered that I’ll cover the Duplet. It’s a double barrel shotgun from the metro series. It’s the first shotgun you get, and an absolute workhorse for taking down mutants in the early part of the game until you get something like the bicycle gun or the Shambler.
Don't call them "rebel fighters". They were terrorists.
I have to admit, my mind IMMEDIATELY went to PA-Luty's book, homemade expedient firearms, which is a detailed guide sent to the British Gov to prove anyone could build an SMG
"Yeah, this was really more of a formality, we just wanted to make sure you weren't 3 guys in a shed."
"HAHAHAHAHA! _Oh my God, we're in so much trouble!"_
This had me literally on my floor because I was laughing so hard.
Go check out Forgotten Weapons. That was real deal.
#Ruffle
That tHE JOKE
no it didnt
It sounds even *funnier* if you say those lines with a British accent.
It's like a cliff's notes version of forgotten weapons with more jokes, and a comically uninformed sidekick
I really thought of Ian and Karl on Inrange when they said, after the knowledgeable dude was trying to explain the sights on the AN-94, "Yes, it's a weird gun! that's why I picked it up!"
and then "weird doesn't always mean better"
"You ever try to kill a plant with a gun its not very effective" -Zach
"You cant garden with a shotgun" -James May
"Oh yeah? *Bang* Look at that, they have CEASED TO EXIST"-Jeremy Clarkson, using a shotgun to remove weeds circa the early 2000s.
I can imagine this happening in actual Fallout where two dudes are going around killing things and arguing about the guns they loot from the bodies of the raiders and poor sods they happen to come across.
I'd tag along as a gun guy myself
It sounds like a conversation that two Enclave Remnants would have. Or Brotherhood.
@@glint55581 Alright, nice thought. But that's just how I thought about it.
Two Gunrunner Scavs out in the waste.. Sounds like a good series..
For anyone interested, the “Duplet” is a homemade double barrel shotgun from the Metro series of games
beat me to it
There's some great stuff in the Metro games. I'm personally a fan of the gun made from bicycle parts.
Which gun is madr from bycycle parts ?
@@Matoorsula the shotgun that has like 6-8 shots and you use a "pedal" to shoot it fast.
is it from metro exodus ?
Obligatory comment about how the Pancor Jackhammer was a weapon featured in Fallout 2, so canonically that Pancor Jackhammer has a valid reason to exist in the Fallout universe.
if only pre war american gun companies just waited a bit until they figured out how to make the AA12. then again, the riot shotgun does the exact same thing.
Too bad that Pancor Jackhammer was underpowered when you were able to find it. Unlike winchester city-killker and hk caws shotguns that deal less damage like 3 minimum and 4 max, but you get them earlier and easier.
@@mantassimonis415 the Jackhammer was the only shotgun worth using
@@francesco3772 Pancor jackhammer is alot rarer since you have to defeat two enclave troops in new reno or hope to get it in specific random encounter near redding or broken hills or buy it san francisco. But winchester city killer and hk caws are obtained earlier and easier for slightly less damage and less range, but they're obtained when other choices for burst fire rifles are only the ak112 and fn fal which use rare ammo type in that point in the game. While pancor jackhammer has to compete against near endgame weapons.
Congratulations on completely missing the point.
He said "I hate it because it's not a real gun and doesn't exist, and everyone always insists on putting it in videogames like it's some kind of mythical god-shotgun"
The contention was that it exists in the game in the first place, not the mod.
The L96A1 story always makes me laugh, especially the way Zach says "Oh my God we're in so much trouble" lmao
Same, same
"How vain do you have to name your rifle after yourself"
Mikhail Kalashnikov:
Heckler & Koch, Samuel Colt, Smith & Wesson.
Like I said, surname companies are practically the norm.
@@racer927 I really hope "Bushmaster" was a surname as well
@@ebreshea1337 Oh mr.Bushmaster sounds like a amazing greeting from a butler or something
soviets/russians put the name of the lead desginer(s) in the name of the guns pretty much always.
It's not like he's even the first Russian to do so (see: Nagant revolver and Mosin-Nagant rifle, though how Nagant's name ended up attached to the rifle is a long story)
“Hello”
“True to Caesar”
“True to-different gun”
Murder hobo noises.
Seeing these gun rants make me want nothing more then to have Zach and Mike play Borderlands and hear Zachs comments about the guns and designs.
would he like a JAKOBS Model Weapon or TEDIOR? Cause i know sure as hell he wouldn't like Maliwan or Hyperion weapons
thank you for making me realize how much i need this
Welp now we know what the next 3 series should be lol
@@xatileofmorgon5095 I'd imagine he would like DAHL more then anything
*torgue induced gyrojet flashbacks*
Too bad y’all didn’t mention how the knarly ass Owen gun was designed. So here y’all go if your interested.
Basically there was this kid living in Australia (Owen) and he loved designing guns. So he was 12 and he was like “I’m gonna build a machine gun!”; builds the first Owen Gun and just shoots it and messes around and makes it pretty badass. A few years go by and guess what WW2 starts, he joins the Australian Army and gets shipped off to Africa, leaving his cool machine gun in his garage. Now Australia was having a very large shortage of EVERYTHING in the first years of the war, including rifles, tanks, uniforms, and especially SMGs. They were using only Thompsons and they were going broke buying those so they needed a new home grown design. Basically Owen’s mom is going through her garage and finds a fucking machine gun. She’s like “Hmm maybe I should tell someone” so she calls the Army and they show up and see it and go “Damn, badass”. They put it through trial and boom, new machine gun, cooked up by a 12 year old in his garage. Ends up being the Aussie Army standard SMG until like the 1980s.
Wow! I hope owens family properly compensated for their weapon
@@Vsm426 he received $10,000 in royalties by the military after the war. He unfortunately later died due to gastric ulcer because of his alcoholism.
@@wotwott2319 god what an unfortunate way to go.
Owen gun was last used in Vietnam. Was replaced by F1 9mm smg in 1960s .
At least he died doing what he loved... drinking like every Aussie.
Accuracy international just kinda sounds like it’s 3 guys out of a shed.
“Hey we need to come up with a name for our company”
“I don’t know. Accuracy..... International”
Hey at least they didn't call themselves "Accuracy 3 Guys in a Shed"
Or Accuracy totally-not-three-guys-in-a-shed International.
Accuracy in a shed
They made some Comfort Gel Packs, that I use, so it can't be that bad.
@@natebit8130 underrated comment right here.
Another interesting fact about the Sten gun, they were dropped, disassembled, all over France for resistance fighters - the reason for that is because they were so easy to assemble, they could fit more in drops.
They also dropped a whole bunch all over northern Italy for partisans and a lot of em got captured by the RSI, you can find pics of a whole platoon of dudes all carrying captured Stens.
Better than the US liberators
at one point you could buy a kit of sheet metal books pre cut in such a way so you just had to punch out and bend the parts to make a fully functioning sten...
@@happyjohn354 youd still need a machined bolt and barrel and some knowhow to make the springs
@@Vamutus I'm sure they could include a bolt and some random spring
“There are a total of 400 FAMASs in the US” and they’re all owned by Ian McCullem
Aidan Look I see you are a man of culture as well.
@@meestasqueed5867 may gun jesus bless us all
Nah man, every bullpup rifle is a famas.
@@stevebutters306 no, I think that'd be the Chauchat LMG.
McCollum*
"I'm going to go on a slight rant about guns here"
That is the best possible opening line to a 45 minute video about guns
I love how these conversations feel like actual stories and arguments ppl in the fallout universe would have. Specially the military ones lmao
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest (but would amuse me a lot) if it was revealed that NCR rangers and Legion decani have these kinds of weapon conversations and arguments regularly.
@@joshuakim5240 makes it sound like they respect each other and would argue over this stuff in like secret meetups before battles.
@@buddyj5VCO That, or they just insult eachothers guns until the one guy walks in with a pancor jackhammer, and that man is promptly shot on sight by everyone at said meeting. Its an elaborate set-up to rid the wastes of pancor jackhammers.
my headcanon is that zach and mike were from the Ncr and the legion respectably and mike just stopped being evil (insert reason here) and got out of the legion, Caesar didn't like it so he putted him on a bounty/marked for death and zach just go out for everyone being incompetent, they meet each other and now they just go on the mojave getting a lot of adventures
-someone who just watched from episode 90-now
@@joshuakim5240 This is Fallout. A know-it-all gun nerd would promptly die in an ironic way.
Heck, he'd probably be one of those terminal-diary stories, where he died in an ironic way long before you ever got there.
"How vain do you have to be to name your rifle after yourself?"
All firearm companies: **nervous sweating**
I mean you’re not wrong.
Glock more like cock
Meanwhile german weapons manufacturers are like „G is for Gewehr, K is for Karabiner and P is for Pistole, it makes sense and it’s simple“
Mauser, Arisaka, Lee-Metford, Garand, Johnson, Krag-Jørgensen, Mannlicher, Mosin-Nagant, Lebel, Kalashnikov...
@@PhoenixFire2 Heckler and Koch
Best part about the Jackhammer is how the inventor never got around to figuring out the magazine system, so to reload you need to dissassemble it to pull the drum out.
He never got around to dissassembly either, so you need a screwdriver to get it apart.
i believe the ones he sent to the military for trials did have a way to remove the magazine effectively
I think the one that still exists, and was used by game devs as a reference, was the tool room prototype. The designer kept it as a personal souvenir.
The two that were sent in for military testing both did, but the military destroyed both of them in the course of *very extensive* testing. The surviving example was the first prototype.
See Forgotten weapons vid on it.
As someone mentioned, forgotten weapons DID do a video on it and they apparently cycled thousands of rounds without a problem. They destroyed them some other way though...
Zach: “I’m gonna go on a slight rant about guns here.”
Mike: “no one likes it when you do that!”
Everyone: *Likes it*
Military-grade is the synonym for things that are made by the lowest bidder that can barely get the job done
Not the L96, its still used by Britain and Australia and its just awesome.
I'm sure the technologies the armed forces operate are pretty nice.
@@tfwthelsdkicksin6083 Ask any soldier and you'll got a strong negative on that dude. Soldiers the world over are constantly complaining about busted equipment, held together by duct tape and angry mechanics.
It’s another way of saying, minimum acceptable standard. It’s generally just durable enough and reliable enough to get the job down at a reasonable per unit price.
@@mitchwilliamson5552 Most soldiers are pretty rough on their guns, it's definitely not an environment conducive to longevity of the equipment. It's a large part of why the M9 copped such a poor reputation in the US military, most of what they shot were during training on the range so frequently older and heavily used and abused already so more prone to malfunction. Then too it wasn't a 1911 or American and that doesn't go down well with some so they were predisposed to hate it, but then too the 1911 is so ancient as a design it's had plenty of time to have the kinks worked out and mitigated if not fully prevented such as the hammer bite.
"Ave, true to Ceasar."
True to-
*Different gun.*
"...Why are you looking at me like that profligate? Pro-profliga-OHNO!"
*GIVE* *US* *THAT* *GUN*
"Did the Germans or the Russians invent it?"
"...It's an American shotgun."
"Oh so it was made by Heckler and Weston?"
"No it was made by MOSSBERG!
WHERE ARE YOU EVEN GETTING THIS FROM???"
I have the feeling that Mike turns his ears off at will sometimes.
@LemonLord who hurt you
LemonLord *703 likes
LemonLord you don’t know how the comment section works do you?
LemonLord k
23:49 that, my friend, is a Borz, a Chechnyan homemade SMG based on an Armenian bootleg of the PPSh-41.
There's a pretty large amount of variance, as they were homemade or churned out of various independant machine shops for use in the first and second Chechen wars. Also, holy shit I recognized a gun Zach didn't.
Most didn't have the fancy knurling on the back, but the one used for reference by the mod-maker in question did. Iirc, it was one used by his father or other family member in the war.
I'd also imagine the knurling comes from pipe end fittings, rather than being intentionally made.
"The Emu Slayer"
Fun fact: Emus can take multiple LMG bullets and still run at top speed. In conclusion, be fucking terrified of Emus.
What about 11 pallets of 762x39.
At the end of the great emu war they averaged about 10 lmg bullets per emu
I’ve done multiple reports on both the emu and the ostrich and I’ve concluded we need to utilize them in the military.
One of the people fighting the emus compared them to tanks
Well that's why they needed m2 Browning's
"There are so many different kinds of ammo... Can we standardize please?"
- Every Soldier and Manufacturer in WWI
Mekova France: you know the rules, and so do I...
"You guys are getting guns and ammo?"
-Russian Soldiers, Eastern Front, circa 1914 colorized
At least the Russians will still have their fingers attached to fire the guns. Poor Hans lost all of them to frostbite.
Japanese Army and Navy: "NO!"
Didn’t the Germans have several variants of the same planes that had a range of different guns/cannons most of which didn’t use a standard ammo type so each ammo type was specific for the model of plane which made just basic logistics a nightmare?
For the first 5 minutes I thought they were just role-playing two soldiers or something like that in fallout NV, then I read the comments and realized they were just two dudes talking about guns, still feels like two soldiers talking while they are on duty
No they are real military as well mike the red text was a marine zach the red guy was also in the army as well
they have heavy rvb vibes
@@markpabst8468 Yup lol
"Standing for words in Russian that I don't understand" sounded like the perfect American announcer parody
"Standing for words in Russian that I don't understand, PKM is an acronym."
Holy shit this guy's great, thank you algorithm for bringing this gem to me
Is something like "pulmeyot kalashnikova moderniziovanny" which translates roughly to klashnikov's machine gun modernised. Mikhail Kalashnikov is the same person who designed the ak 47 and with a team design the pkm. The pkm is basically an ak flipped upside down and made to feed from a belt
Sounds right i know AK 47 is automatic Kalashnikov 47 im not in expert in all guns
All praise the mighty Zank
@@Clift.
Avtomat Kalashnikova, which is literally "Kalashnikov's automaton."
@@CruelestChris right translation would be "Automatic rifle of Kalashnikov". "Avtomat" is a word that can be used for any automatic weapon that is not LMG, MG, or a pistol because in gun context it means "anything that is fired from two hands and goes 'pew' rapidly enough"
I could listen for hours to him talk about guns, it's very intresting.
Also very wrong for like 40% of it.
I agree i find weapon history interesting.
same man me too
Same
There very interesting
*empties a whole magazine into the target*
"STOP RESISTING"
*empties another magazine into the target*
Gun gun!
American police in a nutshell
GUN GUN!
Yup
@Skyler Caillouet if they actually said that all the worlds problems would be solved
Zach: "Then the next one that came out was-"
*pauses*
Zach: "Why is there a landmine?"
*explosion*
“Do you hate that guy over there and you want him to be absolutely suppressed for the next 3 1/2 minutes?”
I don’t know man, you’d probably want everyone at Fort Polk suppressed.
Does that nean that he enlisted in the wrong army?
@Age Restrictions I was actually born there when my dad was an MP in Central America. His 'shift' ended and we moved away before I could remember anything of the place. Tell me then, how bad is my birth place?
@Age Restrictions idk man Ft. Polk is definitely the gooch of america, but at least i wont be kidnapped or jumped like in Ft. Hood
"Everyone insists on putting it in games like its some kinda god shotgun"
Or prolly cuz its not trademarked
Yeah, and it's not trademarked because it *doesn't exist.*
@@extenduss
Yeah....it never reached production- which is why its not trademarked
I love conversations where people say the exact thing but still argue.
@@MrHuxley yeah
@Juni Post trademark is just a registration on the name/branding, so whether it works or not would have nothing to do with it. What you're referring to would probably be patents or copyright.
"If you fill an AK-47 with dirt, it doesn't work anymore."
I have learned something today.
Todd: it just works *fills fallout 76 with sand*
Technically, if you fill any firearm with dirt, it won’t work
@@D00000T There are so many AK fanboys out there that'll claim the AK will run with the receiver full of sand, dirt, etc.
that's an AK-47 not an M16, dont mix them up.
Pretty much all guns that arent single fire only, stop working after you fill them with dirt and fire one shot. Thing is that AKs are pretty easy to fix and cleanup, 6 steps to disassemble and no special tools required, give them a wash and its good to go again
New names for .40 S&W:
- I can’t believe it’s not 9mm!
- What, not 10mm?
- “10mm has too much recoil.”
- Thicc 9mm.
.40 short & weak
alternatively *insert sarge's rant from Medal of Honor VR here*
I love the almost RvB level interactions these two have.
Church and Tucker in a nutshell.
Hey. You ever wonder why we’re here?
CdrChaos It's one of life's great mysteries isn't it? Why are we here? I mean, are we the product of some cosmic coincidence, or is there really a God watching everything? You know, with a plan for us and stuff. I don't know, man, but it keeps me up at night.
I KNEW there was a sense of familiarity.
Mtn. Dewmslayer He meant here in this valley. Do you wanna talk?
Proving that gun nerds are in every way like every other kind of nerd
except a lot more deadly
@@dagamer7434 More peaceful in general.
@@dragonstormdipro1013 you tend to be more careful when the thing you're fangasming about can actually kill yeah
@@serencefrostbite3362 And that's why gun nerds are some of the most mature communities in the world and won't give you depression after 30 minutes
I'm not a gun guy, but I like game guns. This comment is A1 accurate 👏.
"The AS-VAL is one of my favorite weapons of all time!!!"
Literally all escape from tarkov players: "Preach brother!!"
And battlefield 3 players
STALKER
GET OUT OF HERE, STALKER!
@@chancellorforrun2330 And Bad Company 2. Although the thing was monstrous in BF3 and I loved it. It's still weird to think that it's meant as a marksman weapon, not an SMG though. At least the Vintorez was. Also the furniture is so gorgeous.
It used to be my weapon of choice in Payday 2 before silencer skills got removed.
"Ak47 filled with dirt will not work"
Brandon Harrera:
"And I took that personally"
The sten: a pipe, another pipe, and a whole lot of hope
Buy the kit today and we'll include your very own angry German horde to make the assembly experience all the more immersive
A couple pipes, a couple springs, and a latch or two.
Fun fact, the sten also doubles as a hand grenade
@@anonymousey7607 and in some conditions, it’s also cheaper than a hand grenade!
Don't forget the spring!
Hope springs eternal!
Mike: Weird is good.
Also Mike like 3 minutes later:
"Weird doesn't mean it's good."
Well... He said weird is cool notgood
Weird is good in and of itself, but does not necessarily produce a good firearm. (You're welcome.)
“We just wanted to make sure you weren’t 3 guys in a shed”
“HAHAHAHAH we’re in so much fucking trouble”
Which gun is that
Guitar Truong AWP
Ok but like, did they actually get in trouble for it though?
brawlgasm56 I’m going to guess No due to the fact that it is a very popular rifle with their military
I love Mike's counterplay with Zach, riling up his rants or serving as a bouncing board.
The "Duplet" is a made-from-scraps double-barrel shotgun commonly seen in the Metro games. It's like the fantasy shotgun version of the real-life sten gun for SMGs.
Yup
Wait till Zach sees the Exodus bastard
Ah yes, the 'angry tube' college of gun design.
Wait till he sees the Minecraft fully auto rifle
@@shreksondonkaycreatorofbru9113 are you talking about the G-11? Cause that thing looks like it would fit right in Minecraft.
Ok, found this channel about 12 hours ago and as a navy vet, I immediately love these men's stories and began watching for the last 3 hours. Thanks for being awesome guys
Thank for your service.
"We just wanted to make sure you weren't three guys in a shed."
“Oh my god, we are in so much trouble!”
Zack: "I'm a bigger fan of the Remington 870 over the Mossberg 500"
Me, a Mossberg 500 owner: "You do realize this means war, right?"
If ANYONE knows about shotguns please tell me what do the numbers at the end of a name
Me a Winchester 1897 fan: mmm yes conflict
@@vincentmercades1687 model designation, there is no universal reason, it's just what the creator decided to call it.
@@vincentmercades1687 It's whatever arbitrary system the company came up with. Common themes are year it was designed or put into service, length of the barrel, and caliber, but that doesn't actually mean any company follows this strictly at all.
Y'all old asses, Benelli baby.
Another really neat thing about the Pancor Jackhammer is that it was instrumental in the Grunt Rebellion of 2045
Wait really?
AND the rebellion of 2187
@@phelpsbutnotmichal9360 nah man, that was the laser variant.
And 2069 the 40mm variant
Don't forget about the 1812 prototype wielded by famous French Pirate *Le Murre...*
"A gun made in a garage by some moron that doesn't know how to put a gun together."
So... the Pancor Jackhammer then?
eh, the actual pancor was REALLY dam useful and theoretically an excellent weapon for what it was designed for. basically a couple guys got back from 'nam and made a gun that did everything they WISHED their gun could do while they were over there ranging from just straight up actually firing when you pull the trigger (you'd be amazed at how many military issue weapons don't do a great job of that even under optimal conditions) to some neat tricks like having an ammo magazine that converts into an antipersonnel landmine. only known downside was being rather on the heavy side since they heavily focused on reliability in the design.
in this case only *known* downside is a real qualification though since they only made like, 3, ever. and put all of them through destructive testing, the people who actually did the testing absolutely loved the thing.
the only stated reason it wasn't put into full on production is because they didn't think that the people who made it could transition out of the "guys in a garage" stage (literal in their case) and turn into an actual manufacturing company, since this is pretty blatant bullshit theories as to an actual reason abound ranging from plausible to downright silly as tends to be the case with anything that has a big public presence.
the "one that exists" is, if I remember correctly, actually a mock-up put together from leftover parts and what was left of the actual prototypes after testing, don't remember if it even shoots but it's definitely not the actual gun that was designed built and tested.
oh! right, the reason it gets mentioned EVERYWHERE is because the remaining one ended up in the right person's collection and mock-ups ended up in all sorts of movies, and then in all sorts of videogames once graphics got past the pong stage. it looks a weird mix of futuristc and solid-and-practical that just sorta automatically says "special gun, good special gun" to people.
@@evernewb2073 knowing about clockwork drum mags this would be the thing people would hate about that gun, if it went to irl production.
I thought that was the Street Sweeper tbh.
@@masterzoroark6664 the mechanism for arming it as a mine has no interaction with it's function as a magazine...come to think of it I can't remember how that doodad is stored...I _think_ it's a ring set into the front of the magazine that you transfer over to the back of it, can't remember if that was the mine arming part or something else off the top of my head and I honestly don't want to spend the evening looking this thing up again, last time I let myself go down that rabbit hole I ran into all sorts of made up bullshit in between the little bits of actual information.
^ it's been a media thing far more than it ever got a chance to be a real thing and it really shows, not as bad as trying to look up tesla but still pretty bad.
just going off the top of my head aside from the obvious problem of it being heavy it'd probably have some maintainence issues: there's a lot of empty space inside that shell.
@@evernewb2073 Definetly would be a bitch to maintain. Multiple firemode guns with bunch of moving parts or empty spaces are annoying to clean. And that mine thing... this kinda sound complicated, but they might have idea to make it usable by avrage Joe.
I just had a "WTF!? That's kinda cool" moment when I saw the video timeline all chopped up into segments, moused over it and realized that the segments are NAMED for the weapons he's talking about! When was this feature added and why have I not seen ANYONE else use it!?
I’ve only ever seen it in a plants vs zombies tier list video. Yeah it’s cool though for sure. ua-cam.com/video/FHa2q_zyDcY/v-deo.html
its something youtube put without telling everybody, like changing the place where were the coments in phone (before the comments were in the very bottom of the recomend, and is in the very top of the recomendation)
sorry for my engrish.
I've only seen some channels use it, mainly league channels though
It’s brand new. They fired Susan Jabberwockee btw.
@@spencernelson1580 THEY WHAT? THIS IS IT, BOYS, WE ARE ON THE VERGE OF GREATNESS!
i use these gun rants as background noise while i paint my nails and i feel i have to thank you for how well they have been turning out this last two months
"Next time you try to weed your front lawn, try using a pistol to do it!"
*The HOA disliked that*
As a guard for an HoA, I would...LOVE...to see this.
"This gun is awesome because [fill in the blank]." "So it's better than all the other guns? Why arent all guns like that then?" "Well because it has disadvantages like [fill in blank]." "So it's not really that great then, is it?" "No, it's not."
Yep, that's what firearms philosophy eventually boils down to. Almost every gun is perfect, and shitty, at the same time. There are none that are only perfect, but some that are only shitty.
That’s pretty beautiful, the way you put that
The M1917 MG is perfect in almost every way imaginable. Best HMG
The colt 1911 and M1 Garand are only perfect.
@@kendyer8761 Boomer take
Except the pancor hackhammer, the mythical shotgun oft our dreams🤣
"Made by Heckler and Coke or Heckler and Koch, however the hell you want to pronounce it"
Me: Heckler and Cock
Thats... actually pretty close
You are so close
I mean, i get the joke, but isn't Heckler and Cough a little closer?
@@erebys21 most precisely it's Heckler & Ko-sound-a-cat-makes-coughing-up-a-fur-ball. 'Cause you know... German ;)
Heckler and cock and ball torture
I don’t know shit about guns, and I never really found the topic interesting until this guy started explaining them. These two are super entertaining in general, though- I feel like their dynamic could make any topic at least mildly amusing.
Finally! We've literally all been waiting for this!
The best part is that there are time stamps on each gun as well
What’s your favorite from the video?
Fun Fact: the Pancor Jackhammer is a conical weapon in the Fallout Universe
*Canonical
It's not a fucking cone
No, the Pancor Jackhammer is Conical, while most other guns are Spherical.
fallout 2
@Trash Person it was already in 2 games: fallout 2 and tactics. i doubt buttfuckesda would add it to the next game, if there is a next game
Americans today:
_"There is absolutely no reason to make a light infantry weapon that is in .308 full auto."_
Americans in the 50s:
_"Big bullet go boom, or you're a commie."_
"So your saying that any automatic weapon with recoil is bad?"
"No, no just .308"
*Looks at M82 with clothes hangar in hand*
"
Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary"
Karl Marx
"I see no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons,”
Ronald Reagan
I think battle rifles are epic anyway.
@@abderu.6947 ain't that reagan quote wrong though?
@@jbetfifty5904 by citizens he meant african americans who wanted equal rights but its the same thing
I cannot describe how valuable it is that you’ve found someone willing to listen to you talk about guns.
"So the Mossberg 590, after 589 failed patent attempts..."
"No!"
That cracked me up.
The one thing Zach and the Mandalorian have in common: that guns are apart of their religion
It is the way
Zach, the Mandalorian, and Doomguy as well.
Zach is just your average gun loving American who can probably pick up almost any gun and tell you how it works and who made it. I have an uncle who is a bit like Zach, he knows a lot about guns and he even knows how to build some of them.
so they are both American?
@@monkewithagat8733 most Americans I've met (and I live in the South) are nowhere near as knowledgeable about firearms. Most might own a pistol for self defense and never train with it. The percentage of Americans that go out of their way to be sufficiently armed, trained, and educated about all sorts of weapon platforms is quite low compared to the percentage of people that own a gun but aren't really "armed"
Does that make sense?
They reminded me of Naked Snake and Sigint codex calls in MGS3
“What are you using now?”
“This is a [weapon’s name] [long but intriguing facts about it]”
I know, right????
I R O N W E L D E D F R A M E
plus all the weird one like if you somehow manage equip/use the cardboard box as a weapon(somehow) they somehow have lines for it and its not like here is a few quirky lines just to make sure the game dont crash... nope its a full codex call.
@@Zack_Wester "A cardboard box? Why are you....."
i am only here to say: nice profile picture, person from the internet with the username of Napawat K
Watching these videos it's very apparent that Zach is a well qualified and knowledgeable armorer. However, it's also apparent he's not very good at explaining that knowledge to someone else who just isn't anywhere near his level.
Gun rivalry/car rivalry is so accurate. Even the insult turning into a misspelling is *chef's kiss*
the fiat joke is a king of the hill reference
If i wanted to get an old used 12 gauge, id get an 870, if i wanted a new one, id get a 500. If i wanted an old used truck, id get a chevy, if i wanted to get a new one id get a ford. It kinda works like that imo
Whenever I'm feeling down, Zach's gun rants always manage to cheer me up
Same
Same thing with me
Even the emperor of mankind likes Zach's gun rants.
If the emperor says it helps then all of mankind must listen to this gospel!!!
"AN L96A1 *ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!*"
The excitement in his voice is almost as funny as his reaction to finding out Mike had the ASVAL.
29:45 The way Zach says "Different gun" is so emotionless that it's actually scary.
i took it as a gunlustful tone
“True to Ca-“ drifts off and looks at revolver
*”Different gun.”*
*cuts to him being murdered
"Aww, IT'S A TAURUS!"
@@somepersonwhowatchesandhas5198 the fact that Taurus is famous for making shitty, cheap guns while also being a brazilian company(I'm brazilian too) makes me embarrassed
Taurus pt92 is modelled off old m92 designs (when beretta owned the factory) they increased the mag capacity by 2 has parts built for it and only for it and the BOPE has chosen it as it's pistol of choice (and if you go over to hickok45's channel he does a review of it)
"Im gonna go on a slight rant about guns here."
43 minute and 48 second video
Imagine a full rant, hours long. I would watch it
@@tashkent561 I'd personally prefer 40-50 minute videos but because it's Zach, we'd have a lot of videos.
@@smartmars603 What is this channel? Genuinely asking.
@@hop-skip-ouch8798 It's a channel about two guys messing around and riffing off of each other while playing fallout.
I definitely recommend it, if you found this interesting!
*Looks at title*
Oh boy, let's take a shot every time he mentions the Pancor Jackhammer
Jack Brownell okay I’ll play. I’ll let you know how it goes 😂
Jack Brownell *slams Jack Daniels bottle on the table*. “Let’s fucking go”
*dies in 5 minutes*
Here’s an even worse one. Take a shot every time Zach talks about a gun he found on the ground or a dead body.
It was fine until like the last ten minutes, oh god, oh fuc-
I have it on good authority that mike knows _exactly_ what a "choke" is.
These guys are filling the Super Best Friends Play-shaped hole in my heart.
One’s always angry and one’s lackadaisical and always laughing…
I’m home :,)
Yeah I get that feeling too with these guys, weird but welcome
its acted
@@SuperMistral99 what!?!?!? No way!!?!?!??! :O
The worst part of being a gun nut is how movies and video games lose immersion so easily because the guns don't make sense in them
Some people lack a basic ability to suspend their belief. Even if that's not how something works in real life, you generally can't see the internals-design behind what's in-game.
For example, the pancor IS real, and IRL you DO have to take off the entire baseplate to reload it. In most games though the cylinder housing is just designed to open, which would be a quick fix.
Too many 'gunsmiths' retooling ARs for a living for creativity or enginuity to exist in entertainment.
*looks at fallout 4 in disgust*
@@courier6448 left handed bolt action rifle and 44 magnum with cylinder spinning despite hammer being cocked. Water cooled 200 year old lmg called assault rifle that is futuristic for some reason. Shotgun with drum at the end of the barrel. Lever action rifle reloading 5 rounds every time cuz bug
@@hz883 Don't forget, most guns in FO4 tend to be made of pipes...
@@hz883 The "Assault rifle" in particulair peeves me, when you remember previous installments had m4 pattern rifles, and even proper lmgs, so a giant watercooled piece of junk has no place in the universe as a military adopted Assault rifle.
Fun Fact: One out of every 5 firearms in circulation today is either an AK-47 or a variant of it.
thank you lord of war
Blame Russia for just deciding it was the penultimate design and making at least 1 AK variant for every possible gun class
Can confirm. I also watched the Ahoy video on the ak.(its a good video watch it)
@@vincenttorrijos9680 *thank Russia for deciding it was the penultimate design and making at least one si variant for every possible gun class
@@vincenttorrijos9680 it kinda is the penultimate design for a select fire intermediate cartridge
I love how he says "That says FIAT you dumbass!" So passionately, he sounds like he actually mad about Chevy owners
Pancor Jackhammer: *"exists"*
Zach: Don't say it. Don't think it.
Strangely enough, they made only 3 in existence. Zach found 2 out of three, so when he finds the third and final one, he can melt them down and be rid of the Pancor Jackhammer.
@@assas1n9000 or mike will go seto kaiba on them and fuse them together into the ultimate Pancor Jackhammer.
But it doesn't exist!
@@kwalityhunter The Mythical Multi-Pancor-Jackhammer
Some Weeb That’s why I said *”exists”*
Holes in guns are kinda like vents in a house. it makes it a whole lot better with a few, but if you start putting 200 of them in the house, your gonna freeze to death in the winter, or all the cool air will leave the house in the summer, and now your being evicted from your home due to immense property damage. don't put too many holes in your gun, kids.
Sound like experience
Same with people . Don't ask how i.know that
"What the hell is a duplet?"
*sad Metro noises*
Sad artyom noises
*Sad demon noises*
@@noble6791 sad beetches noises
Sad cheeki breeki guitar playing
Fun fact: Duplet (Дуплет) means doublet, which essentially refers to the double barrel.
Most of you probably figured this out already, though, most likely.
as your upstairs neighbor, its been a blast learning from you guys, not much of a lets play guy so its def the content i prefer along with the campfire stories im really hoping for more lol
"I'm gonna go on a slight rant about guns here"
Video duration - 43:47
I wonder how mike feels about the owner of the only Pancor Jackhammer being named *Chad*
What's a Pancor Jackhammer and is there really one of it, and exists?
@@kynto There were some others, I think 2 more? Some of (?) the others were functional and was tested but was later destroyed for reasons idk
The one that exists right now is a garage prototype that doesn't have a practical magazine removal
@@kynto check out Forgotten Weapons, they got their hands on one and fully covered it, it’s history, as well as all of the other versions, although I believe theirs only two.
@@ArcturusOTE I believe some got destroyed for movies but I am not too sure on that one.
@@ArcturusOTE There's three of 'em.
0:04 imagine a world were Zach kept his gun rants in his pants. :'(
Ah a world of chaos
that world was destroyed 10 nanoseconds after
What a fucking shit world
I would never get a good nights sleep 😅
6:08 you mentioned the Beretta brand of guns and helped me epiphany to find a replica model to a gun my late dad and I took apart and refurbished together on the weekends I went to his place. I know you probably won't see this comment; but It means a lot to me since my step-mom is withholding the firearm from me. Thank you so much for using your knowledge.