Boutique vs... Keeley D&M Drive / EHX Glove & Soul Food
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Pitting more expensive boutique-style pedals against their cheaper cousins.
First up:
Keeley Electronics D&M Drive ($229.00)*
vs
EHX Glove OD ($67.90) & EHX Soul Food ($78.20)*
So which is better? Is the D&M Drive worth the extra $83 just for order-switching and TRS jacks even though Mick and Dan are the opposite way round to the way they sit on That Pedal Show?
I think so, yes.
Dan's OCD-style Drive side and the EHX Glove are barely separatable by a hair's breadth, I'd say, But Mick's Klon-ish Boost side is smoother, friendlier than the Soul Food, and the Drive side takes the Boost going into it a lot better than the Glove takes the Soul Food.
So if you want a Drive/Boost pedal where (unlike a lot of other ones) the Boost is also a Drive, this might well be the one for you.
Next maybe I'll try it next against the even cheaper Caline versions...
Gear:
Fender Classic Player Jazzmaster (bridge pickup)
EHX 720 looper
Boss Katana 50w amp
mic'd with a Sennheiser e609
into a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2
Recorded in GarageBand, edited in Final Cut Pro X
*Prices May 2018
Absolutely love EHX. They make so many cool pedals in such a budget friendly way, without sounding cheap. And there’s almost always a little twist, making the pedals a joy for tweaking. One of my favourite overdrives is the EHX germanium OD, unique and raw. Don’t see it often, but it sounds so cool to me.
Awesome video! About 20- 25 years ago you didn't have a lot choices. Because of this the boutique style pedals made a lot sense to me. A prime example is Mike Fullers pedals sounded way better then the counter parts (Boss, Digitech etc.). Nowadays I just cant justify it. There's so many cheaper alternatives that sound just as good as boutique. I would rather spend the money and good amp and guitar.
My first two pedals in my chain are a Soul Food going into a Glove, both only just clipping, the SF mostly a clean boost/colour pedal for it's 1000hz bump, the Glove is just slightly dirty going to crunch if you really dig in. Two great tones independently, together you get a slightly dirtier lead boost...and then you kick on a Big Muff...the SF has cut the bass, the Glove has smoothed off the harsh edges and suddenly the Big Muff screams in a most pleasant way.
That's a nice setup. A Soul Food into a Big Muff is definitely a great way to stop the dreaded 'mid scoop' (I'm currently editing a video on this very subject!) but I hadn't thought of putting a Glove in there too.
So that's your guitar to BigMuff into SoulFood into Glove right?
@@rivonvai guitar, soulfood, od glove then Muff, I run the Muff last as it smashes the tone and just works better there for me.
@@thesociophobe8425 great, I have recently got an EHX Germanium4 big muff (2nd hand very cheap :-p ) and use the overdrive section (very transparent imo) of my big muff to boost my glove and it also works just fine! Will try your set up once I get a soul food.
@@rivonvai the Germanium big muff is a completely different beast, it's clipping is nothing like a Big Muff Pi, it definitely doesn't do the big square wave fuzz you get with a pi or Green Russian, and considering it's germanium with bias controls it probably wants to sit first in the pedal chain, most germanium circuits are notorious for wanting guitar level impedance and for not playing nicely with other pedals. The OD Glove is a Marshall in a box pedal, so you're using like the dirty channel on an amp, so it makes sense to run the germanium muff into the glove, a standard big muff pi just smashes your tone so it's hard to run any gain stages after, the pi has coloured your tone so much already. I have a germanium Fuzz Face which only wants to go first, won't play well with other pedals and is extremely temperamental, it's the nature of germanium clipping.
Great videos. Could you leave the script on screen longer?
I think I may have ripped off a Stephen Malkmus song with this loop. It seems very Jicks.
Another excellent vid. Love the presentation and I love your sense of humor. All pedal demo vids should be this good.
Low gain with a Klon-like pedal is fairly easy, it's flat response. What makes them special is they get more mid humped when you crank up the gain unlike an SD1 or screamer that start humped and get flatter. The result is you get tighter the more you crank the pedal, which works insanely well going into a roaring marshall kind of distortion to get a modern tight distortion out of what would otherwise be a bit wooly.
great video. I don't ever go above 9 in soul food for gain, and I like it a lot. for higher gains there are a lot of "better" options. but I do crank the volume knob. nice one thanks.
Excellent demo. All killer. No filler.
Cheers!
The glove is one of the best overdrives that almost nobody knows about. Honestly I like it that way. With the 18v switch enabled it sounds better than most expensive overdrive pedals.
I agree...
absolutely agree. it's even an impressive clean boost. just a very usable pedal, and I came across a used one for 40 bucks.
It's so versatile! It's my main drive pedal and I love it!
Great video! Great comparison, and honest takes on it! Thanks for this!
Where can i find you playing The guitar. Or do you have s album or something cuz i love you style of playing.
ExoticWriting Thanks! And, sadly, nowhere. No albums. Nothing.
The Pedal Bored you Should post yourself just jamming. You have a really Nice way og playing guitar.
ExoticWriting This playlist is the closest I get to that. ua-cam.com/play/PLEprbOBssS2noyDkykgo6oDWkMW-OBUGW.html
The Pedal Bored thanks these are awsome!
I just stumbled upon your channel, love it! Subbed now. Keep it up!
Definitely EHX for me for the price alone and they sound great!!!!!!!
I have the Soul Food and was considering replacing with the D&M Drive. I appreciate this video very much.
Glad to help!
Great video mate! Love these. Also, "But it's my video" lmfao
I agree. Informative and amusing. What more could you want?
Interesting. Thing is, at least where I live, you can buy the D & M for about 10-15 bucks less than the combined cost of the Soul Food and the Glove, saving on space on the board and load on your power supply.
I also think it sounds better, on either side, so…
Makes sense to me! Go for it. (Unless you already have...)
Wow without all the production of the promotional channels, you really see how close these are.
I say! These are some splendid pedals, old chap! A bit of Fry and Laurie ❤️ cheerio!
Toddle pip!
Man, these videos are great, keep em coming!!!
That's very kind of you! Glad you like them. I have about 10 more shot, sitting waiting to be edited, but if I'm honest putting the text on the videos is DULL DULL DULL... I'll get round to it though. I appreciate regular videos from the channels I subscribe to, so I guess I should do the same...
Great comparison! Excellent summary in the description, too.
Thanks! Sometimes I worry that the text is gone too fast in the video, or too small to read, so I try and give a good summary of it that anyone can read too. Good to have it noticed!
The Pedal Bored I always struggle with the same text size/speed worries myself. You seem to have it nailed down!
Just got the Glove twinned it with my soul food through marshall origin 20c superb
Obviously the D&M is a lot more versatile, having 2 separate channels that are stackable (in any order). The Soul Food is a Klon clone that does not have a good low end. But it punches the mids extremely well.
if there was a LOVE button instead of a thumbs up, you would get that purely for the Fry and Laurie books alone!!!
Jamie Buchanan ‘And how do you spell... *drops lighter*?’ ‘It’s as it sounds.’
The Pedal Bored - that sketch the the Hair cut sketch were the funniest things I'd seen on telly in almost ever! "N I P P L hyphen E!"
Already have a soul food and East River Drive, but would love to put a Glove behind them and see what happens. Thanks for doing it that way. I'll be getting a Glove very soon.
Also love that you're A bit of Fry and Laurie fan. It used to be harder for us Americans to get the episodes before youtube. Understanding barman is still my favourite bit.
I typically really enjoy your videos, but I found it hard to keep up with the words this time. Usually don’t have that problem. Also I know it’d been a pain to switch the EHX stuff, but you coulda flipped the switch on the D&M for fun. Also I’d enjoy what you said about the Caline versions.
Yeah, this is one of my earlier videos and the speed of the captions is something I’m a lot more aware of now. Caline Leon and Pegasus would indeed be interesting!
I didn’t even see that this was an older video, it popped into my feed and usually it’s pretty recent videos that do that. I told myself that one of these days I have nothing to do I was going to watch your whole upload history, lol if I had done that I would’ve already seen it and known, lol. Anyway keep up the good work!
Didn't know you were British until you had "A Bit of Fry & Laurie" as props. I thought "What other American likes A Bit of Fry & Laurie besides me?" and then the truth dawned on me :D
CaptPostmod Ah, but I could be just like you...
soul food is thin and harsh in it's gain structure but fine for a cheap pedal.
Great video, awesome sound!!!!!
Great demo, always enjoy them. Your room mic is under serious pressure 🙉
Wan Ducky thanks! I don't use a room mic though, a proper amp mic - the Sennheiser e609.
The Pedal Bored It’s my crappy Sony TV so!! Haha... now play your demos through headphones - much, much better 👍
I prefer the extra clarity [or britleness] of the SF. Easier to tone down.
First time I visited your channel, you nailed the comparison. However I found the shifting skript and its speed very hard to follow.
The weak link is the Soul Food. I have a Zombie Klone by Fredrick Effects and I compared it to the Soul Food. The SF was far more brittle sounding. How about trying the Mosky Klon clone? Could be a cheap video.
East river drive for me
I thought the right side of the DM drive was a tube screamer, not a klon?
According to my research it's Klon-ish, and it certainly seems so. But I'm happy to be told otherwise!
I thought the DM drive was a King of tone and a tubescreamer
Kind of. It's a sort of bespoke dual (but mass-produced, if that makes sense) which aims to capture the elements of Dan and Mick's favourite boosters/drives in each side. Mick's is a kind of Katana/Klon/Tubescreamer hybrid and Dan's is supposed to have a bit of OCD, KOT, Carpe Diem, Plexidrive and whatever else they had in mind when Keeley came up with the design. You could certainly set it up to sound similar to a TS and KOT, respectively.
Do you write all the music you use for the demos ?
Zeta Knight I do, yes.
Pedal Bored, you are probably the most scholarly and well read musician out there next to Neil Peart. Love your literary themes, most of which I don’t understand because I never liked reading anything except Star Wars books, comics and guitar world magazine!
i don’t get the Klon hype.
A W E S O M E !!!
Cool setting. Nicely done but what a shame you aren't using a tube amp. The magic is where a pedal pushes the tubes into saturation. Pushing a digital amp just sounds dull like you're demonstrating here perfectly.
This comes up kind of regularly as a comment, but I don't have a tube amp, I have a solid-state one that I'm perfectly happy with. And unlike a tube amp, I could afford to buy it. A lot of people can't afford a tube amp so they get solid state ones, and like them. Not saying you should, taste is taste, it's all totally subjective anyway. Solid-state/digital amps are designed to mimic that push into saturation, many of us can't tell (or don't mind) the difference. Also, what I'm doing here is a comparison between the pedals so as long as the amp they're going into is the same, I think that's all that really matters. You may not think it shows off the pedals at their best, but at least it makes them sound *equally* dull.
@@ThePedalBored Fair enough, man. But do yourself a favor and try it. Even with a cheap tube amp like a vox ac4 or a Fender Bassbreaker 007, which are very affordable, you'll hear the magnificent interaction of the pedal and the amp. On a solid state you get more fizz. On a tube amp it just gets bigger and better with those pedals. Especially on low watt tube amps with limited head room. That means that the powersection of the tube amp also gets pushed into breakup. And that's where the magic happens.
But your video and setup and purpose is top notch. No criticism.
@@dejongeblondegod sorry if I'm a bit late to the conversation (by a long shot) but the katan is all analog (aside from the effects built in) and it behaves largely like a tube amp.
@@kalani5559 no it does't. I had a Katana for a few months and although it's a decent amp for the price and probably better than same price tube amps. It doesn't compare to a decent tube amp and certainly not in the way it reacts on being pushed by a loud pedal.
@@ThePedalBored If you cant tell the diff between the two you are deaf
Whens the ammoon looper vs. Ehx 720 coming out?
I wouldn't have the first idea how to compare them in a demo video...
@@ThePedalBored run 2 lines out of the guitar(land devices out of Oakland has a 2 channel "mixer" pedal that'd work)1 line into each and compare how well they retain audio quality and other functions and features
I must’ve had a terrible Soul Food, cause it couldn’t hold a candle to my D&M. So much less clarity and low end.
JHS mod to the Soul Food addresses it’s short comings. Would have loved to have heard this demo through a tube amp?
D&M all the way
👍😉🇺🇸❤SOUL FOOD
EHX sound more human and real rather than fad gadgets.I know yr not going through a valve amp.I have both EHX pedals and they hug a valve and hump it.