2000 Club Car DS, Gas - Service, Clean Carb, Adjust Valves
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I recently purchased a 1997 Club Cart DS and plan to change the oil, oil filter, and differential fluid. I downloaded the owners manual as well as the service manual supplement. I am studying those along with watching repair and maintenance videos.
I think your golf cart repair and maintenance videos are the best ones on UA-cam. You show and explain the details of the repairs, which is really helpful. Your camera angles and audio are excellent.
Thank you for your kind words!
Kevin rocks!
This is how you make meaningful content. Continuous shot and no cheesy music.
Spring is always the PITA. Can be done when fully installed. Every owner knows.
Oil leak on passenger side? Older carts…figure 8 o-ring between the oil filter housing and block.
My neighbor is a 77 yr old cancer victim, her CLUB CAR DS sat for 2 years while she had her surgery and went through Chemo and stayed with her kids for a while. She is finally cancer free and she has gotten back in to her home... she tried to drive her golf cart but it wouldnt start...so she called me. 1st thing was that the battery was shot, so 1 replaced it. 2nd thing was to drain the old gas, which i did via syphon, i got out as much as possibly by syphoning, then pulled the fuel line off the carb and turned over the engine to pump out any old gas in the line (this also helped me verify that the fuel pump was working...which it was). 3rd thing was to check spark which looked real good, but i replaced the plug anyway. Next was to replacing the air filter then adding fresh fuel....once all that was done, i tried to start it...but, NO START. Engine has compression, air, spark and fuel...so i pulled the carb to clean it..float and pin looked good and with the exception of a small amount of light debri in the float bowl it looked pretty good, but i went thru the entire carb and made sure every orifice was clean and reinstalled it and tried to start it again...still, no start. I put my hand over the top of the carb and it sucked my hand right down to the carb, i left my hand there for about 20 seconds, then pulled the plug to see if it was wet...it was not wet. Also, if i shoot a quick shot of starting fluid in to the carb throat, it will start for about 5 seconds... but it wont run on its own fuel...or should i say that i suspect that its not getting fuel in to the engine even though i know its getting in to the carb. I know this because i can unscrew the float bowl drain and gas comes out. Ideas? I'm stumped.
Good video! I’ve still got quite a few ds carts to keep running. A couple things to consider; 1. I don’t remove oil pan plugs anymore. I got tired of the mess, crawling on the floor, and most importantly wrench monkeys that over tighten or worse round off the hex. All my oil changes are with a dipstick vacuum now. Just the hand pump type. It takes a few minutes, but there’s plenty of other things to do. I can do 5-7 oil changes before emptying the globe. 2. I’ve had backfire from the linkage bracket on the carb being bent or warped which causes a small air leak. It’s mostly from golfers sticking a club in there to try and get more speed. They also seem to bust the yellow wire off the generator that way too. 3. I like to use a longer 3/8 bolt on the batteries with side terminals and then put a nut on. Bottom out the bolt then tighten the wires with the nut. That way I can get rid of the crappy ring terminals and put on heavy duty lead ones and still have room for other accessory wires. It’s also easier to hook up a charger or load tester. Hard agree about the battery hold downs. They are always buried in dried mud. 4. The fuel filters that came from the factory are serviceable. I hardly ever change filters.
Enjoyed your video. Keep on wrenching!
The fuel filters are serviceable? How do you do that?
Can you show a video on how to tune the carb.
Thank you for this video. I know what my issue is now .
From Florida.
Just bought a 03 ds. My rental flett is precedent efi, so i normally work them..but the ds was for me..thanks for the videos..shes backfiring and drops way down when pedal is floored. Ill replace carb, plug, fuel pump etc..so i know thier good.. dont know much about rev limiter so hopefully no one messed with it.
I had backfire going on , well I finally figured it out . The top of the carb was extremely dirty, I sprayed it down with carb cleaner , let I sit for 5 minutes and hosed the carb off with the hose , sprayed it down with W-40 . Had to let it sit for a hour because I got the magneto wet , oops . But it runs better than ever now . No backfire issues
Great video! I have a 1999 Club Car with hydraulic valves. The compression is only 110. I saw in one of your comments that it should not be lower than 125. The problem I am having is the engine does not want to take the gas without choking. If you pop the air filter open so it can draw air in it runs fine. The carburetor appears to be sucking really hard because it will actually hold the choke button in , then you have to pull it out with your hand. There is no blockage from the choke button to the carburetor. I am confused as to the low compression but the strong suction when choking. Any suggestions would be appreciated. (New carburetor, pump and filters). Thanks Lao
Amsoil and a wix filter in mine worth every penny for the good stuff
Setting the valve lash.... doesn’t the motor have to be in TDC? It seems like that would matter??
That's my thoughts. I never saw him go for TDC...
How can you pull rocker cover off and no go to TDC on compression and check valve clearance.?
Ok I will check them and I get back see if I find out more about it
Hey Kevin, I have a 2000 Club Car DS. I bought it from a guy who's son, 14 year old, got ahold of it and adjusted everything out of whack. When I got it, it would go full blast as soon as you stepped on the accelerator pedal. I took to a friend of a friend who swore he knew how to get it running right and now its really jacked up. When the accelerator pedal is stepped on, it doesn't even want to run, I noticed he had adjusted the accelerator pedal, the governor, and the metal rod connected to the accelerator pedal. Can you tell me how to at least get it where it would run? Thanks man! I wish I lived closer to you, I would just bring it to you. I'm in the midwest. Your help is greatly appreciated, Love your videos.
I just got an ‘02 Carryall for free and I’m going through the carb right now. Main jet was seized so I had to use a screw extractor on it. Got it out but it’s ruined to where I can’t read what size it was. Can’t find any definitive info on what it should be. It’s just a stock Keihin carb.
I hope you can do a video on how to adjust the governor on a ds I think my is a little to slow I haven fine one on here the proper way not just put a zip tie on the little spring
THanks for these videos man. Has helped me out ALOT!
Awesome! I'm glad they help!
any preformance upgrades on gas motors and clutch up grades n the future
Can you do a video on changing rear diff fluid on a DS, around year 2000?
what's the DS stand for?
@@Shanedog76 Dom Saparito, the man that designed it.
FYI proper adjustment for this FE290 is .005 not .006, although I'm sure that's well within tolerance.
You are correct. I always adjust to .006 when the cart has a lot of use. I have seen better results this way.
I believeThe tolerance is .005 to .007 so .006 is actually perfect
How much does a maintenance job like this usually cost? Just trying to get an idea.
I just bought my first golf cart 2004 club cart gas ,would putting premium gas be better than regular thanks
No, use non-ethanol gas if you have access to it. If not, just use 87. These engines don't run any better on anything higher. Its a waste of money.
I have a 90 G2 Yamaha, does mine have mechanical lifters to be adjusted, it runs well, but have never checked that? Thanks for all the great videos 👍
I can't say for sure since I've rarely had to adjust valves on any Yamaha cart. You can remove the valve cover and see if it has any adjuster screws on the rockers. If it does, then they are adjustable. If not, then they are hydraulic lifters.
I have a 2010 and noticed that it only has one fuel filter. The one from the tank to the pump. I see this cart has 2. Is the other one necessary?
My 2000 DS has not worked right in 2 years, it has had a new battery, starter, rev limiter, carburetor, magneto, spark plug and spark plug wire, all new hoses and it still just idles for appx 10 seconds seconds before it kicks in and then it will backfire every 5 or so times I try to get it to pull away, I am at a loss what could be the problem, any ideas would be greatly appreciated
Hi trying to remove my battery for the winter same cart as this can’t get the battery clamp to release
Is it common to have a new belt stretch with in the first two hours of drive time? 2016 ezgo txt
Is it common for the valve seats to fall out keeping the valves from closing?
I forgot to add, it is a Kawasaki engine. sorry I left that out Keviin. Thank You
The air ways for 2000 club ds video please
Kevin can you do a video just doing lifters.. how to identify what you have and adjust them.thanks
Pop the valve cover off. If you have adjuster screws, then you have adjustable valves. If there are no adjusters, then you have hydraulic lifters and automatically adjust with oil pressure. FE120-FE290 engines with adjustments should be .0047" (.12mm).
@@Kevinsgolfcarts thank you.
First of all I would like to say thank you for the videos has helped a lot .Do you have any ideas my 93 Club Car has got oil coming out from the back of the motor. From a little round rubber cap that seems to go up and down with the motor running. what would that be?
i need help with wiring my ezgo 2003 txt golf cart gas make some video about wires and solenoid and connection
I follow the service just like you di and this video
Hi Kevin I had trouble getting the valve cover off because the 2 bolts holding the cover were in a recess that provide very little clearance for my socket to fit over. May I ask if you used a box spanner and if so what size is are the bolts? Many thanks
I got a free club cart ds from work because they were getting rid of it. Its bog really bad going any faster than 2 mph. I cleaned the carb, changed fuel filters, oil change adjusted the valves. Even disconnected the exhaust to see if anything was broken in there and had no luck. Still bogging very poorly any faster than 2mph. The air box was completely removed from some dumbass is there any chance that coule be causing my issue? Any responce will help alot thank you!
Did spark plug as well
Can u do a specific vid of actual carb disassemble n clean?
I have many videos of Club Car carburetor cleanings.
Kevin, great video, but my engine looks like this one until I removed the valve cover. I believe mine has hydraulic lifters as I see no adjustment nuts or bolts. How do I adjust these valves? Thank You.
These valves self-adjust and there's no adjustment needed. The oil pressure from the engine is what keeps them adjusted properly. Make sure your oil is always clean and filter is changed regularly.
please what size washer My cart never had one
Kevin, love your videos. I have a 2001 DS, runs awesome until recently. Starts fine and runs well and every now and then will just eventually die, use the choke to get me home and then next time no problem. New fuel filters this spring as usual, try to run at least 89 octane. what do you think ? Keep up the good work
You can run 87, anything higher that's not ethanol free is a waste of money and does nothing to help the engine run better. You will need to pull the carb and clean it. There is probably debris and water in the bowl.
@@Kevinsgolfcarts thanks for the quick reply and the advice about the octane. Ill be watching your videos on how to clean the carb.
@@iudog5675 I will add to check the fuel pump becUse ours did the same thing . Would run fine around the yard slow speed and if held floored it ran our of fuel and died and would need chock to get going again for a little bit
@@Kevinsgolfcarts Thanks for your response Kevin. The cart is 20 years old, whats your thought on just replacing the carburator ? seems like a pretty simple switch out and the price of new ones are very reasonable I think. any complications of a new carburator to the cart ? Thanks again
@@Kevinsgolfcarts Your thoughts on just replacing the carb ? Just looking around the prices seem to be very reasonable and Im pretty sure I have original carb on it now. What do you think ? and is there anything tricky about replacing one ? Not a good mechanic but with your videos help, Im sure I can do it. Thank you
Thanks Kevin. I changed the carb for a new one, drained the gas, new fuel pump and filter, new spark plug but it still is hard to start when engine is cold and is sluggish in low idle. Sometimes it will backfire. Do you have any ideas?
Make sure all of the gaskets around the intake are good. It doesn't take much of a rip or missing gasket to cause starting issues. By design, these engines don't idle so you may have something else wrong if your engine is idling.
just found this u tube page and was wondering if one can buy the oil filter from a bike dealer or is there one from another manufacturer. I have no dealer within 400 miles from me.
If you have a NAPA or other auto parts store, the NAPA number is 1394. Most auto parts stores should be able to cross-reference this number.
Hi Kevin. When adjusting the valves do you need the pistons at top dead centre?
No. Top dead center serves no purpose for valve adjustment. It will keep pressure on some valves. The valve rocker needs to be loose to properly adjust it. The cam lobe MUST point straight down away from the rocker.
Have the same clubcar and was wondering if you knew why it would all of a sudden lose power when climbing a hill. The drive belt was replaced, we adjusted the governor a little to make it run just a tad faster, new spark plugs gas the works. Any ideas! Thanks
Check compression and make sure its not below 120PSI. Pull the carburetor off and clean it. Make sure the air filter and fuel filters are clean.
Thanks. Air filter and fuel filter are new, carb is cleaned with fresh gas, and the compression reads 135
Wow night and day after the carb cleaning.
Just a little bit of junk will make it run like crap or not at all.
Hey kevin new subscriber here I just PERFORM A SERVICE ON MY CLUB CAR DS 04 NEW Plug adjust the valve clean carburetor new fuel filter drain the gas tank put need fuel and still have the same problem sometimes I get crank but don't star I check the spark is good got good fuel gret videos I hope you can get me a tips maybe am missing something thank you
Javier Reyes is the fuel pump getting fuel to the carburetor? Sounds like it could be a blocked fuel line or weak fuel pump. You can remove the pulser line that comes from the engine to the pump and be sure it's clear. Sometimes it blocks with oil residue and stops the pump from working.
Kevin's Golf Carts thank you for responding
I changed all fuel lines about year ago but I will check them again
Yes I am getting fuel to the carburetor how much I suppose to get a low strim ??
Sometimes run real good no problem
Javier Reyes it should be somewhat steady. It will pulse but you should have a flow. If there's a leak on the supply line, it will pull air and not pump properly, same for the pulsar line. Also check the siphon tube that goes into the tank. Sometimes they fall off into the tank and will not let you get fuel. Open the gas cap and see if it runs. If so then you have a blocked tank vent. You can use a vented gas cap of the tank vent is blocked.
And I think I got the carburetor real clean I have a little backfire and know I don't
Just can get to start a very time but I go over everything
How much oil do they take and is synthetic oil better to use?
About 1.5 US quarts. 10w30 conventional is fine. Synthetic is a waste of money on these engines.
i have a 2009 turf 1 with the 350, runs great just backfires every once in awhile going down hill. would you say it needs cable adjustment or butterfly valve not closing all the way? just had a full service done but dont think they touched the carb. ive never touched a carb on one of these but was thinking of at least draining the bowl from it, any input id appreciate.
Backfiring is usually from a worn drive belt or accelerator cables out of adjustment.
@@Kevinsgolfcarts ok well it just got new belts so il try and adjust the cable. Probably need to loosen it right
To make those adjustments to .006 how do you know where the valve is supposed to be? or get it to where it's supposed to be? I saw a video that says to turn clutch until the piston is at the top of the compression stroke. How will I know that? Thank you in advance.
Should be at top dead center on compression stroke when setting valves.
@@mikenelson1004 what does that mean? how do you know it's in the correct position to measure/adjust? Both lifters all the way up and basically in the same position?
What does adjusting the valves actually do? And when i changed my oil, same model and year, the manual recommended sae 30 for higher temp regions. I live in florida, so i did. Would you recommend 10w30 as a default? Appreciate any feedback
Adjusting the valves keeps the gap between the cam shaft and rocker set correctly. When the gap decreases (gets smaller), it causes the valves to not close completely. This can cause loss of compression and incomplete combustion. When the gap increases (gets bigger), it doesn't allow the valves to open enough. This can have the same effect. This is something that should be performed annually on the 2 cylinder Robin engine. If you use the cart daily and it works hard, I would use 10w30 or 10w40 conventional oil. I typically run 10w30 in all the carts I service, unless they call for synthetic or special oil.
@@Kevinsgolfcarts thank you so much for your response. I changed the oil a couple months ago and put sae 30. Should i wait to put 10w30 or change it asap?
I really like your videos. Very informative. And pretty good angles on the engine and work.
You should be fine running that until your next oil change. Thank you for your kind words! I hope to be back up and running very soon making more videos. Its very slow this time of year.
@@Kevinsgolfcarts do you have an instagram i can follow also?
I do. All of my social media is kevinsgolfcarts, links in the description of all my videos. I'm not very active on social media.
what's the DS stand for???
Dom Saporito
Be nice if you showed us how to tighten the belt instead of looking at your head
I have plenty of other videos with better views. I don't have a professional camera crew to follow me so I do the best that I can.
Gee Kevin you’ve been very quiet on the video line?
When putting the carb back on how do you know the adjustment screws are correct and set right or do you adjust it after it’s running? I’ll be installing a new carburetor and I can’t find how to adjust once it’s done.
There's typically only a mix screw on these carbs. They don't have a Hi or Lo adjustment. They are usually set from the factory and are pretty close. If I completely remove it, I turn them all the way in, and back out 1.5 turns and go from there.
What's up with the shitty ratchet handy Andy? Lol where's the carburetor adjustment?
There are no adjustments on these carbs.