I swear Coch and Dorr seem like the two dudes who would be in a gunfight cracking jokes and yelling at the enemy that they suck while sending rounds. Thanks for the outstanding video, you dudes are epic.
I keep going back to what Coch said is the bigger the bag the more crap you don't need you are going to fill it with. With Cold weather stuff you don't have choice. I like the line you want to leave the water with the water. However if you were doing what Dor was doing and using it as a suitcase then it is perfect. I like the gray man concept that you also talked about. However, knowing what the locals have you can't always find out until you get there. Funny how the Alice Pack still works for all those field ops like jumping and swimming. Somethings just don't change. I love the verity of gear you guys have. I get ideas for gear without have to learn the hard way you guys did. You do a videos on civilian bailout bag for deserts and snow country for what you only need to survive 72 hrs with no support. Great Video!!!
10:24 the previous version before the Mystery Ranch was issued was made by „Bergans of Norway“. Maybe that’s the reason why they called it still bergan. Many thanks for all the Rucksack information.
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I was issued a Bergans of Norway “Bergen” during my time in the Swedish Marines, and while I do not know the complete history of rucksacks it’s not hard to imagine that they made the original if that style. Or at least perfected and popularized it.
The original large packs issued to British troops were by Bergans of Norway. The name stuck and now all large packs are called bergan's its funny seeing the term has migrated across the pond to the US, lol.
The marine bag is the ilbe. Replaced by the filbe because the internal frame is not friendly with body armor. It was designed by arcteryx and made by propper. Sell for 125- 150 ish. The assault pack attaches to the outside via side buckles on the main pack. Holds 125 lbs. Key point is setting your torso length and strap height. Otherwise it will hurt you with weight and distance like any bag. Awesome video.
I used to have an ilbe pack but they’re not meant for tall people and I HATED it! I’m 6’3” and adjusted the torso as tall as it would go, but it was always torture on my shoulders. Couldn’t get the weight to transfer to my hips so I sold it
Thanks for posting these awesome video's. I work in a sporting goods store in Portland OR and I've been getting a lot of questions about "Bug out bags" and I draw a lot on, not only my own brief military experience, but I also re distribute a lot of info I get from video's like these. Thanks again for all you guy's do!!
Please keep up the great content/ training and shared experiences. As a sailor for 8 years and a Sheriff's Deputy for 23 one can always learn something new. Thanks
These were all great bags and rucks! I especially loved the woodland MARPAT ILBE and whatever that AOR1 ruck was. If you guys haven't heard of them yet, check out Crossfire Australia, I own a DG-16. It's my best ruck! Next time they have a sale, or maybe even sooner, I'm going to get they're largest size. Which is 120 liters I believe. The DG-16 I bought is 80 liters. But when you throw a couple of the full size MOLLE 2 sustainment pouches, and the FILBE, or MOLLE 2 hydration pouches, or you can use all sustainment pouches for more storage space. Either way, each pouch probably adds another 10-15 liters of space. So the 80 liter has suited my needs for the most part. But on a week long hunting, camping, or especially cold weather hunting, camping, or worst case scenario combat, you definitely want as much space as possible. If you want to see what the Crossfire Australia rucksacks look like you can check out they're UA-cam channel "Crossfire Australia". They show their rucks and even have some reviews from people testing them. They made them for the Australian military, and have moved some of their production and sales here. Brent0331 on UA-cam did quite a few videos on a few of they're rucks, including the biggest one. So check them out, they are loaded with features, and have the most comfortable rucks to wear with body armor, chest rigs, h harnesses, Rhodesian chest rigs, and even water bladders. Which makes them the best combat rucks for the money in my opinion. You should talk to them, they are really cool. They'd probably even give you a ruck to review. Take care, thanks for the video and knowledge you guys share!!!!😎🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅👊👊
The name Bergen came to be a term in the military as it was adapted from the town named Bergen in Norway as it produced a mountaineering rucksack that was popular amongst outdoorsmen pre WW2. When the British Commandos recruited outdoor adventurers in the UK, they brought this style of pack with them.
I think if you're serious about backpacks (or really any kind of tactical textile gear) you should be serious about learning how use a sewing machine. The ability to not just repair but also customize your backpacks or other gear is a real game changer.
Great video. Brought back so many memories of my own bags and deployments. One of my favorites was my large Alice pack streamed in from 100 feet when my lowering line broke during a jump. Pack and radio survived. MREs in outer packets did not. Lol.
As far as Greyman thing goes, it depends also on your area / community in which ones lives, and travels in. My area Pinellas County Fl. tactical military looking backbacks are the norm, however across the bay in Tampa, it would be out of place. That fickle finger of X factors I guess. I usually carry the radiomans medium ALICE pack with no frame, it doesnt get attention on either side of Tampa Bay. But the way I see it, in bad times one is a target no matter the kind of backpack, just keep clear of crowds at all best possible, ( SERE ) and stick to the shadows.
Hi. I think 'bergen' originates from Norway. It's associated with a Norwegian guy surnamed Bergan. Maybe the Brits got it from the days when they used Norwegian guides for mountain climbing in Europe.
Great vid. Give ‘em one! If I could kill the ILBE Sustainment Ruck and “Assault pack”, then I could move on, but ILBE just keeps going like the day they issued it to me. It wasn’t too terrible for intermediate swim qual, about on par with free diving with the Alice ruck. Arc’Teryx designed, manufactured by Proper. Kelty makes a one for one identical pack. I did crack a Kelty Internal Frame Stay by putting another persons pack on top of mine when I had to, this didn’t happen when I did the same thing with the ILBE Sustainment pack. The FILBE felt better over my Flak. The Alice Ruck just won’t die either, I just put it on different external/ meat pack-out frames these days. Would love to use the Crossfire DG3 with my belt and harness web gear and/or Flak, as it is intended and purpose built for.
We’ve never heard of that one. But that doesn’t mean it wasn’t used in some capacity guys really are the best with brand names, you just get issued this stuff.
I imagine coach looks tactical wherever he goes. I have to wonder, “tactical” is everywhere now, all the outdoor stores sell it. Does that really matter here?
Mystery Ranch makes some great backpacks but i love my USMC ILBE pack. It's bomb proof! Heavy but indestructible and I am typically hard on gear. Ultralight doesn't work for me.
Marine Corps Issue ILBE Pack - Gen 2 Rucksack. And Mystery Ranch Military Surplus AOR1 Desert Camo SATL Backpack Ruck. Both can be found on eBay secondhand it doesn’t look like they’re still in production.
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Who else would love to be a neighbor at a Dorr garage sale? lol. Thanks again guys.
I’d love it,his wallet would love it, my wife would hate it lol
I swear Coch and Dorr seem like the two dudes who would be in a gunfight cracking jokes and yelling at the enemy that they suck while sending rounds. Thanks for the outstanding video, you dudes are epic.
Coch and Dorr! Two of my favorite YT personalities or celebrities! Thank you for the awesome video.
This is our favorite father son combo!
I keep going back to what Coch said is the bigger the bag the more crap you don't need you are going to fill it with. With Cold weather stuff you don't have choice. I like the line you want to leave the water with the water. However if you were doing what Dor was doing and using it as a suitcase then it is perfect. I like the gray man concept that you also talked about. However, knowing what the locals have you can't always find out until you get there. Funny how the Alice Pack still works for all those field ops like jumping and swimming. Somethings just don't change. I love the verity of gear you guys have. I get ideas for gear without have to learn the hard way you guys did. You do a videos on civilian bailout bag for deserts and snow country for what you only need to survive 72 hrs with no support. Great Video!!!
10:24 the previous version before the Mystery Ranch was issued was made by „Bergans of Norway“. Maybe that’s the reason why they called it still bergan.
Many thanks for all the Rucksack information.
I was issued a Bergans of Norway “Bergen” during my time in the Swedish Marines, and while I do not know the complete history of rucksacks it’s not hard to imagine that they made the original if that style. Or at least perfected and popularized it.
The original large packs issued to British troops were by Bergans of Norway. The name stuck and now all large packs are called bergan's its funny seeing the term has migrated across the pond to the US, lol.
The marine bag is the ilbe. Replaced by the filbe because the internal frame is not friendly with body armor. It was designed by arcteryx and made by propper. Sell for 125- 150 ish. The assault pack attaches to the outside via side buckles on the main pack. Holds 125 lbs. Key point is setting your torso length and strap height. Otherwise it will hurt you with weight and distance like any bag. Awesome video.
I used to have an ilbe pack but they’re not meant for tall people and I HATED it! I’m 6’3” and adjusted the torso as tall as it would go, but it was always torture on my shoulders. Couldn’t get the weight to transfer to my hips so I sold it
Thanks for posting these awesome video's. I work in a sporting goods store in Portland OR and I've been getting a lot of questions about "Bug out bags" and I draw a lot on, not only my own brief military experience, but I also re distribute a lot of info I get from video's like these. Thanks again for all you guy's do!!
Coch and Dorr are definitely the best father/son duo on your channel.
Please keep up the great content/ training and shared experiences.
As a sailor for 8 years and a Sheriff's Deputy for 23 one can always learn something new.
Thanks
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These were all great bags and rucks! I especially loved the woodland MARPAT ILBE and whatever that AOR1 ruck was. If you guys haven't heard of them yet, check out Crossfire Australia, I own a DG-16. It's my best ruck! Next time they have a sale, or maybe even sooner, I'm going to get they're largest size. Which is 120 liters I believe. The DG-16 I bought is 80 liters. But when you throw a couple of the full size MOLLE 2 sustainment pouches, and the FILBE, or MOLLE 2 hydration pouches, or you can use all sustainment pouches for more storage space. Either way, each pouch probably adds another 10-15 liters of space. So the 80 liter has suited my needs for the most part. But on a week long hunting, camping, or especially cold weather hunting, camping, or worst case scenario combat, you definitely want as much space as possible. If you want to see what the Crossfire Australia rucksacks look like you can check out they're UA-cam channel "Crossfire Australia". They show their rucks and even have some reviews from people testing them. They made them for the Australian military, and have moved some of their production and sales here. Brent0331 on UA-cam did quite a few videos on a few of they're rucks, including the biggest one. So check them out, they are loaded with features, and have the most comfortable rucks to wear with body armor, chest rigs, h harnesses, Rhodesian chest rigs, and even water bladders. Which makes them the best combat rucks for the money in my opinion. You should talk to them, they are really cool. They'd probably even give you a ruck to review. Take care, thanks for the video and knowledge you guys share!!!!😎🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅👊👊
The name Bergen came to be a term in the military as it was adapted from the town named Bergen in Norway as it produced a mountaineering rucksack that was popular amongst outdoorsmen pre WW2. When the British Commandos recruited outdoor adventurers in the UK, they brought this style of pack with them.
Thanks for the rundown, Uncle Sugar was very good to the Teams.
Extra medium! Shirts, bags, extra medium!
I think if you're serious about backpacks (or really any kind of tactical textile gear) you should be serious about learning how use a sewing machine. The ability to not just repair but also customize your backpacks or other gear is a real game changer.
Back in the early to mid nineties in the UK, I was told they were named 'Bergen' after the Norwegian dude who invented them.
ALICE was my best friend and worse enemy, she carries it all, and gave me pain. 🗽🇺🇲🇺🇸
Have a Lowe Alpine that’s holding up after 20 years. Still love that bag.
I really enjoy how yall present stuff,, serious but funny, just like in the military... get through it with humor.. thanks for another great video...
Great video. Brought back so many memories of my own bags and deployments. One of my favorites was my large Alice pack streamed in from 100 feet when my lowering line broke during a jump. Pack and radio survived. MREs in outer packets did not. Lol.
Your $0.2 is worth a million. Thanks again. ⚓️
As far as Greyman thing goes, it depends also on your area / community in which ones lives, and travels in. My area Pinellas County Fl. tactical military looking backbacks are the norm, however across the bay in Tampa, it would be out of place. That fickle finger of X factors I guess. I usually carry the radiomans medium ALICE pack with no frame, it doesnt get attention on either side of Tampa Bay.
But the way I see it, in bad times one is a target no matter the kind of backpack, just keep clear of crowds at all best possible, ( SERE ) and stick to the shadows.
The MALICE pack was amazing still have mine and I have one of my large Alice that got the TT mod back in like 07
So the UK forces call it a Bergan after the alpine backpacks used in Norway made by Bergan.
I absolutely LOVE the content! Two great warfighters of the times! Keep it up! Could u do a diving video and SERE video please? 😁👍👍🇺🇸
Great content fellas!
Hi. I think 'bergen' originates from Norway. It's associated with a Norwegian guy surnamed Bergan. Maybe the Brits got it from the days when they used Norwegian guides for mountain climbing in Europe.
I tell my guys all the time. compartments are great but to set them up smartly. dont put anything in them that you will need immediately.
27:30 pick things off the loser lmao 🎉
Keep ‘em coming.
Very helpful, enjoyed, thanks
I love your gear videos. It always cracks me up to see thousands of dollars worth of kit with the tags still on, lol.
Great vid. Give ‘em one!
If I could kill the ILBE Sustainment Ruck and “Assault pack”, then I could move on, but ILBE just keeps going like the day they issued it to me. It wasn’t too terrible for intermediate swim qual, about on par with free diving with the Alice ruck. Arc’Teryx designed, manufactured by Proper. Kelty makes a one for one identical pack. I did crack a Kelty Internal Frame Stay by putting another persons pack on top of mine when I had to, this didn’t happen when I did the same thing with the ILBE Sustainment pack. The FILBE felt better over my Flak. The Alice Ruck just won’t die either, I just put it on different external/ meat pack-out frames these days. Would love to use the Crossfire DG3 with my belt and harness web gear and/or Flak, as it is intended and purpose built for.
I’m old school, I have two waxed canvas bucket style that are low visibility waterproof.
Love your work guys.
Dorr's garage must be like a QM's store 😂
Frigging hilarious and informative.
when i wear a shirt like the one Coch had on my friends always ask if my Mrs. knows i am wearing her shiry again... lmao
thank you!
Nice Krag
Lol, Dorr are you giving away any of your rucksacks?
Thanks Coch and Dorr! :) :us
Dorr and Coch, did you or any of your teammates ever use the Becker Patrol Pack?
We’ve never heard of that one. But that doesn’t mean it wasn’t used in some capacity guys really are the best with brand names, you just get issued this stuff.
Comes from Bergen, Norway.
Coch needs a large.
Don’t slam Coch n Dorr… they are a couple of well read in dudes! 🎉Cheers fellas
Love this content. Dorr and Coch are the best.
Still waiting for Dorr’s underwire folding video!!
Need to know how to tactically fold my underwear!! 😂
Coch should re-enlist good man!
I imagine coach looks tactical wherever he goes. I have to wonder, “tactical” is everywhere now, all the outdoor stores sell it. Does that really matter here?
Mystery Ranch makes some great backpacks but i love my USMC ILBE pack. It's bomb proof! Heavy but indestructible and I am typically hard on gear. Ultralight doesn't work for me.
Shoulder straps on those aren't nearly strong enough. Seen plenty of them break on long humps.
Ok about $5000 worth of kit. Nice collection.
Woah amazing
Burgan was the name of the guy who invented them from 🇳🇴
21:50 Can someone be kind enought to link these bags where I can get one please. Thank you.
Marine Corps Issue ILBE Pack - Gen 2 Rucksack.
And Mystery Ranch Military Surplus AOR1 Desert Camo SATL Backpack Ruck. Both can be found on eBay secondhand it doesn’t look like they’re still in production.
Coo beans Delta alpha Delta.
That TT ruck is worth $600
Coch seams quiet on this one.
Jason...
Wanna sell that tactical taylor bag alice pack thats just sitting in your garage?
Is it just me, or does Dorr have a huge head?
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That Krag is the tits...
So pog bases suck lol damn yall be throwing some shade at the Marines huh🤣