I was detained by Indonesian Police for being with an Indonesian woman. Kuta, Lombok.
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
- Today walking around Kuta, Lombok, I talk to Gary who with his wife spends half the year living in Lombok. We discuss the reasons why Gary prefers living here and also chat about how some of us seem to have an innate need to wander or constantly be on the move.
I tell the story of a night on one of my first trips to Indonesia when I joined a local woman at her home after a night at a bar on the backpacker street Jalan Jaksa. After a short time chatting inside her apartment local police officers arrive to inform me I was in trouble as I wasn’t allowed to be inside an Indonesian woman’s home.
I also meet the wife of a local fisherman who explains a little of her life in the fishing village of Kuta, where she comes from, and why her English is so good.
A great walk around Kuta, Lombok.
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No Muslims go to bars.Anyone who goes to the bar is definitely non-Muslim
Your story cracks me up. Ive got a buddy who is about 60 that falls for these scams in foreign countires. I think he finally found a nice family girl in the Philippines
Philippines best for girls...
Is that a Joke? 😂😅😂😅
@@jeanettelebarron3306 Why
I have only come to your channel a couple weeks and enjoy you talking to many people. And your personal stories
Thanks, DM. Grateful for you coming along. Cheers.
Im a 60 yr old NZer, been living in bali for 12 years now. enjoyed listening to your conversation on the beach in lombok, this is why i chose to live here, and i find myself meeting more people of like mind and having similar conversations myself, especially in the last 4 years or so
Yes, I think we all want to be around our tribe,
We had the absolute pleasure to meet and spend a few hours with Wayne yesterday in Kuta Lombok. Couldn't ask to meet a more genuinely interesting guy. Travelling the back roads Keeping it real. Safe travels, Mate, we look forward to sharing the journey.
Pete and Leah.
Hey Pete and Leah. What a pleasure to catch up with you two and spend a good few hours swapping stories from the road and parts of our similar history. There's nothing better for me than talking with people who remember the places from back in the day. Thanks so much and here's hoping our paths cross again sometime soon.
Another great video Wayne. Thank you, And A Happy New Year to you sir.
Hey, Inki. thanks so much. And all the best to you and yours.
SO happy he's discovered Lombok. Hopefully, many more will discover Lombok, skip Bali, and enjoy the wonderful people of Lombok....
Lombok is a great place and worth a visit for sure.
Thanks
So generous of you, Phil. Thanks so very much.
great story and advice.
Thank you for spread the vibes 🎉 be safe
Really enjoyed your story, Wayne
Appreciate it, Tony. Cheers.
Brought back memories of my first stay in Jalan Jaksa in 1982. Some of the best food I’ve eaten in Indonesia was from private homes that opened to the public on different days of the week in the narrow lanes off J. Jaksa.
Good program today!! You are inspiring me. 💥
That's great, David. Cheers.
Great channel ❤❤
Thanks, eldorado.
Thanks for sharing in your adventures 🙏
Thanks, Tommy.
Mate we thought you were dodgy but this is actually a quality stuff. Great editing, research and appropriate and poignant questions to your interviewees. Loved the story of the police and have a similar one myself. Well told too. All the best and look forward to more good content.
Gee thanks, Anthony. Appreciate it. Cheers.
So glad I found your video. You have a great voice and story, sir. And you are in an interesting area of the world that I want to learn more about. New sub!
Hi Chimps. Thanks so much for the sub and taking the time - appreciate it. Cheers.
Nice vlog Wayne. I enjoy your casual strolls and the interaction with locals and tourists alike. I think most of us can relate to the story you told hahaha. Older and wise now hahaha.
Thanks, Phil. Thank goodness we're a bit older and wiser.
haha many years ago in kuta bali a cop pulled me over for no helmet and he hit me up for rp 100,000 ($10) and said stay here, then he went into a mini mart and came back with 4 bintang and we sat in his little police hut on the corner for about 45 mins drinking beer, as soon as they get money out of you, your besties lol
It seems to be like that. :)
Happy NYE mate from NSW Terrigal beach Australia 🇦🇺
Thank you for all the effort to put into these Adventures
Appreciate it, dp. Thank you.
Excellent. Loved your story about the Police and how you were manipulated.
Honestly, with your travels and experience I reckon there would be a book or documentary in the making.
Thank you 🙏
Hi mac, and thanks.
Thanks again Wayne
I also wanted to wish you a Happy and healthy New Year
Thanks, LTV. Hope yours is also a good one. Cheers.
Happy New Year Wayne, God Bless you
Thanks and all the best for 2025.
Adventurous types of people who do not lack an income... Then they see what they want to see and enjoy it with opened heart.
Loved this x
Old war stories. :)
@@fiascodagama1 you have a way with telling stories that is very endearing. Its like reading a good book x
Happy New Year Wayne and all of your subscribers 🎉 really appreciate your stories and glimpses into life 🙏🏻
Thanks, Cherie. All the best for you and yours.
great story
A nomadic life perfectly natural and simplicity and closeness to nature totally wonderful.
It suits some of us, doesn't it?
Enjoyed your cautionary tale. Have to be careful there but these occurrences make life a bit more colourful. I had a very similar experience in Jakarta but mine had a much happier ending haha.
I'm glad you story had a satisfactory conclusion.
Always a pleasure to hear about your travels 👍
Thanks, RB.
You’re always well spoken, polite and respectful. Well done.
Thanks Brett. Appreciate it.
You told that yarn well about the police.Reminds me of the Vietnamese police.They don’t call it a bribe but a ‘tip.’
My experience in Bali with my future wife at the time (now married)
This was 10 years ago. We had decided to get married and I went to her father and the head of our village to ask his permission to marry. Happily for me, they agreed and we made plans to marry on my next trip back. My future wife already had a house, so i came to stay there while we made wedding plans. Things were going well for a couple of days and then we had a load of police turn up and threatened to take me to jail for living together out of wedlock. Of course, they were trying to get a large cash payment to make the problem go away.
The system here is that whoever informs on this kind of thing gets a percentage of the bribe payed to the police, its like a business almost for them. But unfortunately for the local police and the informant we had the approval from the village. We told them to get off our land and find someone else to harass for easy money.
I fully understand the intentions behind the law and agree with it. it's just unfortunate that it gets manipulated sometimes to extort money from foreigners.
I do love Indonesia and the vast majority of the people, but there are a few that let jealousy and greed consume them.
Really appreciate you telling your story, Robert. Thanks.
Another useful insight into life in Indonesia for us Bule that have an interest in this from afar (Australia)
Hi ,bw. Thanks for dropping by.
I've had aimilar experiences with police scams in Laos and Thailand. The key is, under not circumstances, lose your temper.
You're right I think. Losing your temper in Asia rarely aids your cause at all.
In rural Thailand I've found there are 2 types of police road block - the official ones and the unofficial ones.
The fines on the unofficial ones are lower but they can't be strict.
My wife got fined for not wearing a helmet, less than half the people wear helmets but only one had a white husband
Indonesian police: Maximize scare, then offer "solution" for a "donation". Then "best friends". Good old days. Nowadays they are far less jovial.
Sounds like you know the drill.:)
Had some good times in the jungle bars of Jakarta back in my navy days. Having the Navy ID got me out of a similar situation. I guess it wasn't "diplomatically correct" to "accept gratuities"Hey, that lady you interviewed was absolutely delightful! So polite, feminine and beautiful.
It was a good time back then for many reasons, wasn't it?
For your first 2025 coffee....I always look forward to seeing what you've found on your journey ....Great stuff
PS .Happy New Year
Thanks, Phil. all the best to yourself.
It’s always nice to hear from you. I just came across your channel a couple of weeks ago and enjoyed watching your vlogs. Just curious to know what language you speak with the locals there?
I use a little bit of very basic Indonesian language.
Thank you for replying and A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR 2025
Crazy story from yesteryear Wayne. What Gary said was interesting about the West and wanting to stay in Indonesia. I have decided to continue living here in the mountains of Colombia in cool weather away from most folks. Additionally I plan to go abroad for 2-4 months every 2 years or so so I can continue to have the best of both world's. Cheers 😎 Wayne and everyone.
Sounds like a great plan, Eddie. I find returning to the home country for a while keeps the fire burning for travel.
@fiascodagama1 That's the way I'm looking at it Wayne. 😎👍🏻
Selemat Malam, Beautiful Sasak woman with child, so gentle & relaxed. Scary story about being trapped by late night escapade. Traveling is in my blood, as a "army brat" growing up in the US with many different nationalities. It has helped me tremendously traveling solo, especially on buses in Indonesia. Once stayed with a Chinese man I met at a bus station in Madura, who took me traveling in Java to stay with his family. We didn't have an intimate relationship & think as outsiders, we just 'clicked'. Traveling alone & going back to your room can be lonely. Where else can u just show up and be invited immediately to stay with people?
Keep the stories coming! Terima kasih. Happy New Year, 2025!👍💚🌞
Sounds like you've got quite a few stories of your own, Liz. I have known some "army brats" in Australia and many of them have the need to move as well.
@@fiascodagama1 In years and years of travel, it became clear to me that my favorite aspect of travel is the people and the culture itself, especially in Indonesia. Happy New Year! Let us know your celebration!
Welcome to jakarta. In late 90s, fresh from getting my license, I ran a redlight not far from jalan jaksa driving my uncle's car. Police took my uncle's cassettes, because I didnt have enough money for all 4 of them. My uncle was livid that he lost some of his favourite albums. I doubt those crooks even like jazz music 🤣
Very enjoyable yarn thank you
I appreciate you taking the time, be4. Cheers.
If it was Australia the cops wouldnt have been so nice. In Australia when the Cops want to do u they hit u with fake DV & S#xual Assault charges. Costs u $100K to goto trial & prove your innocence. Rather be hassled by indo cops.
Thanks for sharing the story ..good to educate us all in potential scams !
Hi leannes. Good to see you.
It is very interesting how Westerners don't understand the mentality of the locals. Locals are not calm or relaxed they were raised in a culture and system which is very oppressive for the regular person. As a coping mechanism they lower their expectations and slow their life. As an example stop giving your woman money and see how quickly she finds another foreigner to give her money and you become a forgotten history. Lets be honest most Westerners with average or limited means go to these places as a form of economical arbitrage your few dollars just gets you more than in The West. I am not against Westerners going to these places as long as you really understand your true motivation and accept the place for what it is.
Happy New Year to you! I enjoy your adventures and the varied views of Indonesia. I wonder what you think about the safety of older women traveling in Lombok and other areas of Indonesia, compared to Bali, given the cultural differences. Thanks for your entertaining videos.
Hi Pacifica. I think traveling as an older woman alone in Lombok would mostly be fine. The main areas travelers/tourists gravitate toward like Kuta, Sengiggi, the Gilis etc are quite safe . Indonesia on the whole is generally quite safe I feel with the normal safety precautions observed.
@@fiascodagama1 Thanks for your reply. Time for me to dust off the passport and get wandering. All the best 🙂
I'm an older woman who has lived in Indonesia for 25 years. I feel much safer here than in a western country. I have never had a problem with men here but I do dress modestly and don't drink alcohol. If you're hanging out in bars you probably will get chatted up but a polite but clear no does the trick. To generalise....just practice personal safety.
@@linleylefay2287you can’t generalize ‘western countries’. And if you do, the ‘western’ world is so much more respectful to women, than almost all SE Asian countries. Saying this as a European living in SE Asia for more than 20 years.
@@linleylefay2287 Thanks for that advice. Definitely more interested in waterfalls and snorkeling than bars.🙂 Happy New Year to you!
I’m American and married foreign Indonesian girl 12 yrs ago. Don’t believe the negative things. I would done this 100 times if possible. Truly the best women on the planet!!
So if your wife isn't Indonesian you wouldn't marry her? You only marry her cause she's Indonesian?🤨
Great story😂😂 happy new year🎉
Thanks, Mary. And to you.
As a young man in the navy in the late 80’s there are many similar stories where police used locals to entrap sailors with a view to extortion. They were great times visiting Jakarta and Surabaya.
I think instances like these are far less common these days. Indonesia/Jakarta back in the day was a kinda crazy place.
@ I agree, we were blessed to have been young men travelling in the era before terrorism. Of course we visited much smaller ports where tourists would not be seen and the locals would look at us like aliens from another world. Your videos from Lombok are bringing back memories of those days.
Oh dear... what a great tale 😂
Life has some learning experiences for us, doesn't it?
Hope you well and happy in life too🎉
Thank you. All the best for 2025.
I have lived in Lombok for ten years. I moved from the UK and married my local wife 7 years ago. If you match or 'cocok' the place will capture your heart. You title is misleading since this occured in Jakarta in teh past. Due to the ITE Article 11 Calumny laws, one must be careful as to how you describe places and so on. Face saving is enshrined in law. So take care not to cast aspersions on regions or people :D
Thanks for the heads up.
I can accept bad weather or travel delays as part of an overseas adventure however I don't have your capacity to accept overcharging, corruption and theft in my stride. This is why as an Australian, I've avoided Indonesia and similar place where both the public and private sectors seek to extort cash from you. I do enjoy your tales and adventures and unique take on life and what it has to offer.
Hi DeeJay, thanks. Indonesia isn't for everyone it has to be said. Cheers.
I had a funny “shakedown” moment on the beach at Nusa Dua many, many years back. Me and a friend decided to go out on jet skis. Paid the fee and spent probably 45 minutes riding around on the sea. At one point my friend’s jet ski bumped against mine - but there was no speed involved, we were stationery. It was literally just the waves bumping us together. Suddenly the hireshop guys on the beach are shouting and jumping around.
Anyway, when we came in, they claimed there was damage (nothing visible ofc) and wanted to charge us many thousand IR. Well we were at the beach and didn’t have our wallets and our hotel was a good 10 minutes drive away. “No problem” they say “we will take you back to the hotel for you to get the money”.
So we get taken back - get the money, pay them, and off they go. We then sat and not being fully familiar with the exchange rate, worked out exactly how much that adventure had set us back. Turned out the “repair” bill, which came with a free ride back to the hotel, was cheaper than the hotels minibus that took us to the beach originally! 😂
It became a running joke as we explored the area. “Let’s find a cab if we can’t find a jet ski to kick!”.
Anyway - quality upload as usual friend. Safe travels!
Jet ski scams became a very good earn for many at a few locations in Southeast Asia - Thailand had/has its fair share. You might be the only person who came out relatively unscathed from one. Good story.
Great cautionary video not for me personally, but for any young man out there.
Hi Sonia. I don't believe this type of thing happens much anymore but thought it worth recounting.Cheers
The sun is out ! Have a great day Wayne.P.S That story about the police sounds very familiar,I dont think you are the only young fella who that happened to😂
Good to see the sun. :) I'm pretty sure I wasn't the only naive young guy for sure.
You bring me back some great memories about Jln Jaksa in the ninetees 😂. When I got more money Bats became my nightly entertainment spot 😊
Oh boy. Now there's a name I'd forgotten - Bats!
Good travels Wayne 🙏
Thanks Victor.
In 2018 in the town on NE Bali where the ferry goes to Lombok, my 20 year old Filipina GF and I had police barge into our room due to our 40 year age gap. After some questions they left and we continued on towards Flores.
That sounds pretty scary actually
Thanks for this video loved the story about the police.. Have a good New Year 2025 🇦🇺 From Melbourne
Hi Lorraine. Thanks so much. All the best to you and yours.
I remember Jl. Jaksa well, in the '70s just an ordinary street round the corner from my office (Cokroaminoto). Not many bars then, but further into Kota there were massage parlours where liquor and the setup routine were well established. I believe the lift home to safety was usually available after the shakedown - though this is hearsay, of course, not from personal experience🙂.
It was mildly amusing how pally everyone was after the event on the ride home - as if nothing had happened.
What good advice, yes we know that corruption is rife in these countries, India is the same and l was always cautious who l spoke to when l travelled there.
You do have to have a little awareness, it's true.
By the law only first kin can report unmarried couples. That's parents, siblings & spouses.
I didn't know that. Thanks.
@@fiascodagama1 pays to ask- "is us going together going to upset anyone?" & If the answer is yes & that's someone in kin & close by- pass.
@@fiascodagama1 discretion & Valor, an old adage still worthy.
You're talking about the new laws that come into effect in 2025. Habitation between unmarried couples is currently legal. Fiasco's story sounds like it's from a few decades ago. I think Fiasco fell into a honeytrap. Would have been charged with certain 'other' laws. 😂😂
I was going to say that I don’t believe Indonesian Muslim society is part of what I understand as being Eastern culture but maybe I’m wrong?
Yep, Islam is a cancerous ideology and should be banned for its incitement to violence. Unfortunately spread through Asia by war and marriages.
@ronald3921 No. You’re not wrong. Muslim society is middle eastern and North Africa culture. Just as Canadian Muslim society is not part of Canadian culture. And Scottish Muslim society is not part of Scottish culture.
@@robertwilliamson9228+ million Catholic Indonesian 1k Jewish Indonesian 275 million Muslim. My gosh they allow them there and live peacefully?
@@robertwilliamson922 yes that’s what I would say too, but if you google “Eastern Culture” it does include Indonesia and I don’t think it’s only because if Bali. Islam is overlaid on Indonesian culture older than Islam, Islam only became the largest religion in Indonesia by the end of the 16th century
@ronald3921 There's a very strong indonesian culture which is totally different from Middle Eastern culture etc It's intertwined with Islam . The culture is different in different regions.
It's not unusual at all to find a mother wearing hijab and 29 year old daughter wearing a short skirt with her. Weddings are also very different. Alcohol is rare in the home.
To give you an idea look at the differences between Balinese Hindus and Indian hindus
that was brilliant, maybe the police though you'd finish your business with the lady first, then get a taxi back
Haha I’ve worked you out with your “click bait” video titles 😂 I knew that you hadn’t been detained just recently on Lombok. But what a story, scary. I wonder if the police in Jakarta nowadays are still this corrupt. The clip from you telling that story to you chatting with the young woman was brilliant 😊 nice video, thank you
You're onto me, Ronald. :) I don't think these types of things are as common these days.
Same here. At first, I must admit, hello hello, sly dog, there is still life in the old boy.😆😆
Actually recent law allow more ppl to sue if theres a sexual relationship outside of marriage. Before its only husband or wife, but now parents or children can sue. I guess it only apply to indo citizen, but if foreigner sleeps w indonesian they might get sue by member of the nuclear family.
Sure its a controversy but its a middle ground cuz some ppl say now ppl cannot be "raided" by strangers, only their own nuclear family member can.
And most fam won't cuz it cant imprison only 1 party but must be both so their own family member as well.
This to prevent attempt of blackmail and such.
*context : the law finally pass just after cov id pandemy and mon key pox.
Sooo.... clear that what u do in ur privacy affects others especially ppl close to u.
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I heard it could also apply to foreign unmarried couple if their family files a report here but im not sure.
You just picked the wrong women and got scammed. In the early 80's we never had any problems like that.
Young and naive
What year were you arrested? Sorry, Shaken down.
In the early nineties.
It’s illegal to go to a woman’s apartment there?
Cohabitation is illegal if unmarried in Indonesia but people aren't walking around checking on you.
Probably your hotel manager that gave word
That's a possibility.
@fiascodagama1 same thing happened to me in Gili terawangan about 10 years ago. They work together and get a cut. But my case was for lighting fireworks, I had asked the hotel manager the best place to light them, that's why they were waiting. The hotel manager was there aswell saying just give them some money. When they were typing the police report, fireworks turned into bombs. After a while my uncle from Surabaya came and fixed it up. We almost missed our flight 🤣
What do you make of the fact that they knew which hotel you were staying at? Had they been watching you all along? And in that case, perhaps it stands to reason that the girl was in fact not privy to the scam. Just a thought.
Can't be sure of anything of course.
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Ripper story Wayne!
Thanks, tw. Cheers.
Wishing you happy New year 2025🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thank you. I hope yours is a great one also. Cheers.
You'd be pretty disappointed in jalan jaksa these days 😂
I've heard it's a shadow of its former self sadly.
I suspect that scam still happens on occasion ?
Possibly. It was heard to happen back in the day quite regularly.
Better seek authorization man filming, just an advise
I don't understand....... what's soo illegal in that???
Unmarried people weren't/aren't allowed to cohabit.
@@fiascodagama1 Unmarried people shouldn't live together..........what a weird law.
But I guess she knew it, then why didn't she let you know or was it for her to loot money from you which is why she didn't tell you???
@@manujohn99 Yes, it was a money thing.
Indra, Indera is male name.. 🤭
Indira is female name.. a bit rare though
Might have been Indri.
@@fiascodagama1 oh ok that's a woman's name.. although I prefer if she was "Indra", now that would make the story more interesting.. 😉
It was Java.... 🤷♂️
id go to east timor any day over Indonesia,theyre more civilised and friendly😃🙏
We all have our preferences, I guess.
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its trap
Indonesia is the last place on this planet I want to be .
Good to know what you like or don't like, Jim. Many of us love it here.
When I was working in solo one of the chaps meet a young girl in a club took her back to his room sliped him some thing in his drink and robbed him. But mostly I loved my time there with very few problems I used to wander around the campons on my bike I still miss it. And I have not worked there for over 10 years now since I retired.
You gave them so much money that they felt guilty and maybe even afraid that you might actually get into trouble wandering around like that. Can you imagine the shitstorm, especially in those days, if something happened to a western tourist subsequent to an encounter with polisi?
That's a pretty astute observation and one I hadn't considered. Thanks.
How many years ago did the incident you were talking about happen? 40? Lol.
Not quite, but not that far away from it. :)
I have no desire to go to Bali I have met some lovely Indonesian students in Wagga uni after the 1970 ‘s journalist shooting by the military I don’t trust them never have I find Thailand more respectful , and cleaner .
If you have more rainy days and no one to talk with.....you can just tell us the stories of your past travels........😁🤣🕊🙏💙🙏🦋
That's actually a very good idea, Vicko. Thanks
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Cheers.