This guy deserves way more subscribers, watched a bunch of your videos thinking you had 50k+ then realised you on had 1600, I’m sure if you carry on you could get to one of the big ones!
Used the idea of those lowlight settings on the S5ii with real time lut/photo style applied, flat profile, and slight tweaks gave me a great low light image but your settings gave me a good starting point and put me in the ballpark so thanks.
thankyou for this ... bought my s1h a month ago and still havent fail in love in love ..but i see the difference in the color science from my gh5 but thats it .. better colors at night
Hey Dustin, would love your suggestion for using V-Log at 4000 ISO on the S1H/S1 and perhaps your suggestions for the best baseline de-noising settings in Resolve (in case you use Resolve). This video was great, although I would have loved to see more of 2000-4000 ISO range work with low light (and perhaps a faster lens). Thanks for what you do! This is definitely one of the more helpful videos about Low Light options in S1H
I didn't directly test that, but there isn't a huge difference from a technical standpoint from 420 and 422 as long as your shooting 10bit. There might be a tiny bit less color noise at 422 to barely noticeable
Awesome! Thank you for this. Bought the S1 before 2 days as the best fitting hybrid cam in that range; even if i was a little afraid of using the manual focus it works quit good; i prefer a more film-like look anyway and not that total sharp one. Thanks to your video and neat video i get a very clear image now! Do you have some videos for neon light flicker removal too? Best, jens
No problem thank you for watching. S1 is a good choice right now. Planning on doing a video about it soon. Best thing to do for light flicker is adjust your shutter speed/shutter angle until the light flicker goes away.
@@DustinArmstrongPro Thank you, I'll try that! Had long hours of research, but it's a great cam, even though there is a whole lot to learn. You do some awesome stuff here, so again; thank you!
Thank you very much from spain , I'm laughing so much with the intros, especially this one, I thought for a moment that you would not share your gold-secret . Very professional chanel, I wish you all the best. I have a question that makes me feel insecure but here goes. To do a WBalance in low lights ? do you know if it is appropriate to raise the ISO, but then lower it again to record the scene ? it seems that in the "set" mode of the WBalance, when there is low light it does not work.
Appreciate the support🙏. It shouldn't affect WB since ISO is essentially just digitally brightening your image so you should be fine. Don't sweat it. I still ask questions like that all the time! We all gotta figure things out somehow!
Hey Dustin, thank you so much for your videos, they are really helping me better understand the full potential of my S1H. I'm having trouble gauging when grain gets introduced in to my image. Viewing the LCD and my monitor with either the HLog, Vlog assist or just a standard profile, as I push the ISO up the image continues to look crisp on my screen. However when looking back on my footage I notice it starts to break up at a certain point and doesn't reflect what I'm seeing on my monitor. Is there a way to see when grain becomes prominent on my image through the monitor and what my output will be closer to. Thanks
You are correct about HLG. The dynamic range of this color profile is incredible when used properly. I have used it with a ninja V and managed to expose indoor and outdoor with recovered highlights and shadows with no noise at 400 ISO. I have tested it extensively and the fact that your Highlight cutoff is WAY higher than rec 709 you can pull off some amazing things. GREAT video BTW.
Dustin. Would you recommend crushing the sharps and noise reduction all the time? During low light, bright light, contrasty days? Also, what shape S curves do you film with on brighter days. Thanks. Loving the content. Just subscribed.
Personally it's just preference. I like the softer "look" and don't mind the noise. If I do, I just add noise reduction in post. I just use the default curve on brighter days. Appreciate the support
I got one that one off Amazon! I just invested in the tilta cage with top handle. There's a link to that in the description if you want to check it out😁 but that handle I'm using was like 30 bucks I think
Dustin Armstrong if you could put a link in the description with the handle only and I’ll buy it from your link. Just comment back here when you do it and ill buy it right away...
I put 4 options in the description under camera add ons as top handles. I think if you don't like one and you click any of the links, if you search Amazon on the tab that opens and buy something it'll still give me a kick back. Doesn't have to come from the link directly. Least I think that's how it works lol
Even though I have Panasonic g85, this is similar to what I found. Standard is really great for low light plus -2 or even -3 shadows, allows you camera not to struggle. The contrast does not give you extra dynamic range just allows you to see more into the shadows since there is less contrast.
2:16 Actually setting to 0-1023 will limit your dynamic range inside Premiere at least because it cannot handle full range H264/H265 footage natively. Dark and bright areas will be just cut off. You can use the Lut (Premiere Range Fix) to solve the issue ;)
@@DustinArmstrongPro it will just affect how brightness is allocated throughout the usable bit range by the codec. ;) Still working on updates. Will send a new link later today. :)
Great! I have created your photo style. I called it: Dustins low light. I will test it soon. And nice to have confirmed again that HLG performs so good. Which photo style to use when? It all depends on the scenery of course. However, I prefer to keep one photo style for all the scenes and sets in one big project. To use different photo styles means color matching later in post. I use HLG to film performances, where you have bright lights and dark backstage areas or black curtains behind. I use V-LOG if the additional dynamic range is required, most of the time actually but mostly outside during daytime. True, you need enough light for V-LOG. It can get messy very quickly in the midtones otherwise. If you can't avoid it, try to stay at the two native ISO values (lowest in the settings for each photo style. 640 and 4000 for V-LOG). And finally I use Standard or Natural for low budget projects to avoid too much hassle with color correction. You can read them in the ISO settings but here are some more native ISO values: HLG 400 and 2500. CinelikeD 200 and 1250. Standard 100 and 640.
@@DustinArmstrongPro Haha! So true! Coloring is not easy and time consuming. Colors shift so quickly. Even through exposure. Or different camera angles. I am still struggeling to get some of my vlog footage on a satisfying level. But most deliveries are for standard color space anyway. So lets be lazy :)
@@DustinArmstrongPro Thats the benefit of a channel such as this, it attracts a community of users who can all share information and learn together. Well done mate.
The noise reduction can affect image quality, but definitely would be interesting to test and see how it compares to all the other settings. Maybe I will have to do that?
@@DustinArmstrongPro for sure it will be interesting to test the nr impact on image quality ;) Just to know if the différence bettween set in 0 and set in -5. Saying that because today i notice really fast little noise in darks parts of my image while I was only beetween 1000 and 1600 iso (in Flat profil with NR at -5)..
@@DustinArmstrongPro I would Imagine Zeroing it is disabled. I just got the camera a couple weeks back and I was watching your videos (really helpful) to try to get more acquainted with it before I start shooting with it. I came from a 5D MKII with MagicLantern which I know like the back of my hand and I can make it look amazing, but this Panasonic is still a mystery to me. I used to use a "similar" profile on the 5D with Sharp:0, Contrast:-4, Sat:-2 to achieve a flatter look cleaner to grade and less digital looking. So I'm all for removing sharpness, I just worry about degradation. The only reason for the upgrade was low light capability (allowing for smaller units and faster setups) and clients requesting 4k & 6k, even though most of the time, the final output for delivery is just 1080, but it's a hype word so...You gotta have it. Now I can throw in my own Hype words in the mix, like Netflix approved, HDR, and the mighty RAW. But I'm really excited about getting familiar with the camera and these videos are great. I've been busy with work, but I'm looking forward to actually test these settings and the effects on the footage.
Maybe try a few tests at 0 and -5 and see if there's a unpleasant image. Glad they've been helpful! Got more stuff coming soon more specific to the S1H. Hopefully they'll keep helping! Ah yes the ol marketing buzz words 😂
@@DustinArmstrongPro i recently got the s5 and trying to find the best settings, sole purpose for buying the camera is for video of fireworks. i know very little about photography or videography but your videos have been very helpful, thanks
When you're exposing with your Standard Profile in the description, are you over exposing or shooting for +-0? In Vlog I aim to expose 1 to 1 2/3 over exposed.
I expose for middle grey typically which is usually anywhere from -1 to +1 depending on the scene. I don't usually use that as my reference though since it's not extremely accurate
This guy deserves way more subscribers, watched a bunch of your videos thinking you had 50k+ then realised you on had 1600, I’m sure if you carry on you could get to one of the big ones!
Maybe one day😁 you deserve more thumbs up👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Dustin Armstrong Keep it up, loving the content 👌
You know I will🙏
I definitely get the feeling this channel is about to blow up 😻
But only if you come with me
its a good channel
Excellent presentation and explanations -- and great work on profile -- looks great
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Awesome! Thank you for this video❤
You did it the best way by using f/4.5. Great video man.
Thanks man!
Used the idea of those lowlight settings on the S5ii with real time lut/photo style applied, flat profile, and slight tweaks gave me a great low light image but your settings gave me a good starting point and put me in the ballpark so thanks.
Glad it helped!
Very helpful, thank you. A tutorial on how to use vlog in a video editing program would be helpful...
You're welcome! Working on it👍
thankyou for this ... bought my s1h a month ago and still havent fail in love in love ..but i see the difference in the color science from my gh5 but thats it .. better colors at night
No problem! Hope you love it
Doesn’t HLG have inherent noise reduction baked in?
Best youtube outro evr
9000/10 yes
Hey Dustin, would love your suggestion for using V-Log at 4000 ISO on the S1H/S1 and perhaps your suggestions for the best baseline de-noising settings in Resolve (in case you use Resolve). This video was great, although I would have loved to see more of 2000-4000 ISO range work with low light (and perhaps a faster lens). Thanks for what you do! This is definitely one of the more helpful videos about Low Light options in S1H
Great video, Dustin. Really like your stuff!
Thank you! Glad you like it!
High quality content man. When is the next one coming?
Soon. Got one in the works. Been busy
Good job Dustin! I love your videos :)
Thank you🙏 I'm happy you enjoy them!
Hey Dustin - great video. Perfect timing! How did you find the noise when shooting slow motion?
I didn't directly test that, but there isn't a huge difference from a technical standpoint from 420 and 422 as long as your shooting 10bit. There might be a tiny bit less color noise at 422 to barely noticeable
Awesome! Thank you for this. Bought the S1 before 2 days as the best fitting hybrid cam in that range; even if i was a little afraid of using the manual focus it works quit good; i prefer a more film-like look anyway and not that total sharp one. Thanks to your video and neat video i get a very clear image now! Do you have some videos for neon light flicker removal too? Best, jens
No problem thank you for watching. S1 is a good choice right now. Planning on doing a video about it soon. Best thing to do for light flicker is adjust your shutter speed/shutter angle until the light flicker goes away.
@@DustinArmstrongPro Thank you, I'll try that! Had long hours of research, but it's a great cam, even though there is a whole lot to learn. You do some awesome stuff here, so again; thank you!
Thank you very much from spain , I'm laughing so much with the intros, especially this one, I thought for a moment that you would not share your gold-secret . Very professional chanel, I wish you all the best. I have a question that makes me feel insecure but here goes. To do a WBalance in low lights ? do you know if it is appropriate to raise the ISO, but then lower it again to record the scene ? it seems that in the "set" mode of the WBalance, when there is low light it does not work.
Appreciate the support🙏. It shouldn't affect WB since ISO is essentially just digitally brightening your image so you should be fine. Don't sweat it. I still ask questions like that all the time! We all gotta figure things out somehow!
@@DustinArmstrongPro Hi again Dustin ! I keep coming back to this video hehe, what lens are you using, f 1.8 , f4 , .... ?
Hey Dustin, thank you so much for your videos, they are really helping me better understand the full potential of my S1H.
I'm having trouble gauging when grain gets introduced in to my image. Viewing the LCD and my monitor with either the HLog, Vlog assist or just a standard profile, as I push the ISO up the image continues to look crisp on my screen. However when looking back on my footage I notice it starts to break up at a certain point and doesn't reflect what I'm seeing on my monitor. Is there a way to see when grain becomes prominent on my image through the monitor and what my output will be closer to. Thanks
what is the dual iso for natural profile
Same as the Standard I believe
You are correct about HLG. The dynamic range of this color profile is incredible when used properly. I have used it with a ninja V and managed to expose indoor and outdoor with recovered highlights and shadows with no noise at 400 ISO. I have tested it extensively and the fact that your Highlight cutoff is WAY higher than rec 709 you can pull off some amazing things. GREAT video BTW.
Thank you! Yeah I need to try HLG more. I want to try making a video in HDR with HLG and see how it goes.
This was very helpful👍👍👍 could you pls let me how low we can go with IRE value. Did you shoot this video with 0 EV?
0%? I didn't it fluctuated above and below 0 EV. Wasn't paying too much attention to it
Dustin Armstrong thanks a lot!!
Thanks from Italy. Does the S1 work differently?
May not work exactly the same but I’m sure it would be similar
Dustin. Would you recommend crushing the sharps and noise reduction all the time? During low light, bright light, contrasty days? Also, what shape S curves do you film with on brighter days. Thanks. Loving the content. Just subscribed.
Personally it's just preference. I like the softer "look" and don't mind the noise. If I do, I just add noise reduction in post. I just use the default curve on brighter days. Appreciate the support
How does the Lumix S1H compare to the Sony A7S III in low light? I want to see that comparison! ;)👍
We'll have one once my Sony comes. But I think the Sony will win
Hello, the video settings and the description settings are different ... which ones to choose?
Thank you in advance !
The description. Those are the settings from going out the 2nd time
1:06 hold up hold up hold up. Field trip in the office chair is the best.
Hahahaha next video we'll bring it
Hey Dustin, how can I get one of those handle grips for my S1H?
I got one that one off Amazon! I just invested in the tilta cage with top handle. There's a link to that in the description if you want to check it out😁 but that handle I'm using was like 30 bucks I think
Dustin Armstrong if you could put a link in the description with the handle only and I’ll buy it from your link. Just comment back here when you do it and ill buy it right away...
I'll put some options for you there right now! 👍 Thank you!!
I put 4 options in the description under camera add ons as top handles. I think if you don't like one and you click any of the links, if you search Amazon on the tab that opens and buy something it'll still give me a kick back. Doesn't have to come from the link directly. Least I think that's how it works lol
Dustin Armstrong awesome... doing it now. Thanks bro
Even though I have Panasonic g85, this is similar to what I found. Standard is really great for low light plus -2 or even -3 shadows, allows you camera not to struggle. The contrast does not give you extra dynamic range just allows you to see more into the shadows since there is less contrast.
I hope you also made an epic sequence like this to go with your tests? 😂😂😂
@@DustinArmstrongPro yeah impossible
Lol no I believe in you
@@DustinArmstrongPro We will see I might just take you up on that challenge.
Now you're thinking big!
2:16
Actually setting to 0-1023 will limit your dynamic range inside Premiere at least because it cannot handle full range H264/H265 footage natively. Dark and bright areas will be just cut off.
You can use the Lut (Premiere Range Fix) to solve the issue ;)
But in practice, the range setting won't affect dynamic range at all, but used bit depth.
I was actually going to ask what that was for because next video I want to talk about your luts. Really? From what I found and saw I thought it did.
@@DustinArmstrongPro it will just affect how brightness is allocated throughout the usable bit range by the codec. ;)
Still working on updates. Will send a new link later today. :)
@@DennisSchmitz got it. I'll have to clarify in the lut video👍 sweet! I used the blockbuster luts in this video. Tried to expose how you said
Great! I have created your photo style. I called it: Dustins low light. I will test it soon. And nice to have confirmed again that HLG performs so good. Which photo style to use when? It all depends on the scenery of course. However, I prefer to keep one photo style for all the scenes and sets in one big project. To use different photo styles means color matching later in post. I use HLG to film performances, where you have bright lights and dark backstage areas or black curtains behind. I use V-LOG if the additional dynamic range is required, most of the time actually but mostly outside during daytime. True, you need enough light for V-LOG. It can get messy very quickly in the midtones otherwise. If you can't avoid it, try to stay at the two native ISO values (lowest in the settings for each photo style. 640 and 4000 for V-LOG). And finally I use Standard or Natural for low budget projects to avoid too much hassle with color correction. You can read them in the ISO settings but here are some more native ISO values: HLG 400 and 2500. CinelikeD 200 and 1250. Standard 100 and 640.
I thought HLG start at 800 not 400.
Let me know more it goes! Yep you said it exactly how I would. I film most my UA-cam videos with natural because I'm lazy lol
@@puma3100 honestly not sure haven't used HLG enough to know off the top of my head
@@DustinArmstrongPro Haha! So true! Coloring is not easy and time consuming. Colors shift so quickly. Even through exposure. Or different camera angles. I am still struggeling to get some of my vlog footage on a satisfying level. But most deliveries are for standard color space anyway. So lets be lazy :)
Hopefully we have a video coming soon to help with that V-LOG stuff. And by hopefully I mean coming soon.......
Any reason why my S1H only shows these three options... 0-255, 16-235 and 16-255? *UPDATED* You have to be in 10 bit. to get 0-1023.
That makes sense. I've only shot in 8 bit so thanks for letting me know!
@@DustinArmstrongPro Thats the benefit of a channel such as this, it attracts a community of users who can all share information and learn together. Well done mate.
Yes. I learn a lot from you guys!
Why put the noise reduction to -5 ? if we want to cut the noise in low light conditions, we shouldn't put it on +5 instead ? To be more efficient ?
The noise reduction can affect image quality, but definitely would be interesting to test and see how it compares to all the other settings. Maybe I will have to do that?
@@DustinArmstrongPro for sure it will be interesting to test the nr impact on image quality ;)
Just to know if the différence bettween set in 0 and set in -5.
Saying that because today i notice really fast little noise in darks parts of my image while I was only beetween 1000 and 1600 iso (in Flat profil with NR at -5)..
Wouldn't setting sharpness to -5 instead of just Zer0 soften the image/noise digitally baking it instead of just disabling the sharpening effect?
Not sure. How do you disable sharpening? This is the only method I know of, but haven't run into an unpleasant softening look on my footage
@@DustinArmstrongPro I would Imagine Zeroing it is disabled. I just got the camera a couple weeks back and I was watching your videos (really helpful) to try to get more acquainted with it before I start shooting with it.
I came from a 5D MKII with MagicLantern which I know like the back of my hand and I can make it look amazing, but this Panasonic is still a mystery to me.
I used to use a "similar" profile on the 5D with Sharp:0, Contrast:-4, Sat:-2 to achieve a flatter look cleaner to grade and less digital looking. So I'm all for removing sharpness, I just worry about degradation.
The only reason for the upgrade was low light capability (allowing for smaller units and faster setups) and clients requesting 4k & 6k, even though most of the time, the final output for delivery is just 1080, but it's a hype word so...You gotta have it.
Now I can throw in my own Hype words in the mix, like Netflix approved, HDR, and the mighty RAW.
But I'm really excited about getting familiar with the camera and these videos are great. I've been busy with work, but I'm looking forward to actually test these settings and the effects on the footage.
Maybe try a few tests at 0 and -5 and see if there's a unpleasant image.
Glad they've been helpful! Got more stuff coming soon more specific to the S1H. Hopefully they'll keep helping! Ah yes the ol marketing buzz words 😂
why are the settings for your custom profile different in the description than what you say in the video. which is the correct one
Because I tweaked them after I tried those settings. I mention it in the video that I went back out to try and make it better than the standard
@@DustinArmstrongPro thanks, do you think this would be a good profile for firework video
Don’t know you’d have to try!
@@DustinArmstrongPro i recently got the s5 and trying to find the best settings, sole purpose for buying the camera is for video of fireworks. i know very little about photography or videography but your videos have been very helpful, thanks
Somebody really likes Make.Art.Now.
This may or may not have been Josh Yeo inspired 🙃
When you're exposing with your Standard Profile in the description, are you over exposing or shooting for +-0? In Vlog I aim to expose 1 to 1 2/3 over exposed.
I expose for middle grey typically which is usually anywhere from -1 to +1 depending on the scene. I don't usually use that as my reference though since it's not extremely accurate
"no gimbal??
Audience: noooooo
Dustin : no gimbal then..." hahaha lol
Would have been too much work hahaha
@@DustinArmstrongPro its a great tutorial video. I enjoy the video and learn great job!
Which lens did you use?
Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8
The custom LL settings for your 1st attempt are way way off compared to your 2nd LL settings...strange
I mentioned at the end I went back out to try and get a better result than the standard. Not sure how that makes it strange
But autofocus not good
Your profile says Short films, did you know that cinema camera that makes film doesn't have autofocus? Give it a try.
When subject was moving its missing autofocus sir
How can i solve this problem
But sony a7riii good for continuous autofocus
@@ajayjadejavisuals Learn to focus pull like in film industry ;)
Yes not good, but manual focus has its place and can be used as a story telling element
#nogimbal