Strangled by the Formula - Dragon Ball Dissection: Extreme Battle!! The Three Great Super Saiyans

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  • @solaranimations9062
    @solaranimations9062 5 років тому +470

    For thousands of years I have laid dormant, who has disturbed my slumber- oh hey a new mistarefusion video.

  • @jambastion1285
    @jambastion1285 5 років тому +175

    People only remembers this movie because Goku gets his balls crushed which knock him out of his transformation.

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +22

      That and #15. He is awesome.

    • @razkable
      @razkable 5 років тому +15

      i remember it for the memes like is it over?.. not till the fish jumps, its over ...and of course weeklytubeshows boom shaka lah boom boom boom boom green dick is better than blue dick oh shit muther fucka!!!!..ah early youtube was my sanctuary before everyone and their mom got on there and ruined it..those were the days where true nerds got to escape the harsh reality get onto this site and deal with each other rather than the scum of society..

    • @ericbrown6203
      @ericbrown6203 5 років тому +7

      Honestly the whole Ball punch thing was never as memorable on it's own. Goku literally starts dodge #13's stomp then he gets up right after 13 proceeds to not only punch him in the nuts but after 13 beats him up even more. It wasn't memorable aside from memes

  • @deusebroadwater
    @deusebroadwater 5 років тому +202

    My trucker hat

    • @TheHylden
      @TheHylden 5 років тому +6

      He is the "Dude, Mah Truck!" guy.

    • @metal87power
      @metal87power 5 років тому +1

      English dub makes it even worse. Japanise version at least had some dignity.

    • @DigitalWraith
      @DigitalWraith 5 років тому +14

      Vegeta, he stole your do!

    • @King_Luigi
      @King_Luigi 5 років тому +13

      @@DigitalWraith _"I'll kill him!"_

    • @peterang78
      @peterang78 4 роки тому

      metal87power even with its dignity, it still not a good movie.

  • @saiyajedi
    @saiyajedi 5 років тому +109

    The enemies are so interchangeable that Nos. 14 and 15’s designations were switched during production and it didn’t change a single thing.

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +30

      Yea I thought that the moment he mentioned that. Hell I get their numbers wrong. I'm still drawing a blank. What a worthless movie.

    • @G0thLily
      @G0thLily Рік тому

      The same thing happened to Nier and Mello in Death Note and it also didn't change a single thing, I guess that manga is as dumb as DB

  • @piccolo9365
    @piccolo9365 5 років тому +89

    “What about that trucker android?”
    Gero: THAT WAS JUST A PHASE!

  • @TylerCharlesFisher
    @TylerCharlesFisher 5 років тому +271

    I don't blame you for not liking No. 13 as a character. I mean, a spiky-haired brute with a limited vocabulary who is obsessed with killing Goku, curb stomps the rest of the characters, and is then defeated by Goku punching him in the gut just sounds lame! Hopefully we'll never have to see anything like that again.
    ...What?

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +49

      I hope we get another character like 15 though. He is like us watching this movie. He just doesn't give a rat's ass. I can relate to him because of that.

    • @razkable
      @razkable 5 років тому +21

      lol...if you think about it from super 13-movie 13 that's all we get outside of janemba not being overly buff like bojack broly bio broly 13 and hirudegarn are ..smdh...it must have become popular...broly 13 and bojack are literally the same character design ..

    • @darkknight5541
      @darkknight5541 3 роки тому +12

      Well, he did punch Goku in the Dragon Balls. That was funny.

    • @jordancromwell
      @jordancromwell 2 роки тому +2

      Broly had more vocabulary tho?

    • @DavidVillaTorre
      @DavidVillaTorre 2 роки тому +6

      @@jordancromwell only in the first movie. After that his only line is "KAKAROTTO"

  • @Nightshadow998
    @Nightshadow998 5 років тому +40

    It's sad that to me the most memorable part of this movie is
    Picco: Is it over?
    Vegeta; Not till the fish jumps
    Fish Jumps
    Vegeta; Its over

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +6

      That was Funimation taking a jab at the movie. They knew themselves that it sucks.

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 5 років тому +6

      How does a joke mean they thought the movie sucked?

    • @SuperSaiyanGuyver
      @SuperSaiyanGuyver 2 роки тому +3

      I'm old enough to remember Chris Parsos and us bitching about Funi adding dialogue, and this is still a great addition.

    • @deathmetal271
      @deathmetal271 3 місяці тому

      fightingmedialounge519 it meant that this film was so by-the-numbers that the English dub took some liberties with it and it’s ironically why the film has so many memes

    • @androidsenpai1462
      @androidsenpai1462 Місяць тому

      That was an exclusive line to the FUNimation dub; that’s even funnier.

  • @KumaPaws376
    @KumaPaws376 5 років тому +49

    “Androids everywhere” (toy story meme but with Goku & vegeta).

  • @SmashBros2009
    @SmashBros2009 5 років тому +66

    Good evening MistareFusion, I'd tip my hat forya, BUT I LOST IT!

  • @Lexi_Zone
    @Lexi_Zone 5 років тому +145

    Maybe it's set in the timeline the Daizenshuu calls 'History 4'--the one where Trunks got a functional shutdown controller for #17 and #18 and returned to the future, only to get killed by Cell (who then stole his time machine and set the main timeline into motion).
    ...Or Toei doesn't care. രᴗര Yeah, probably that one.

    • @superjetze
      @superjetze 5 років тому +45

      That would be a pretty funny ending to the movie. Trunks going back to the future being like "Bye guys I'm done here" and then just get killed by cell. Run Credits.

    • @mechajay3358
      @mechajay3358 5 років тому +15

      That would've made much more sense, and could've lessened the contradictions this movie had.

    • @theultimatememelord5494
      @theultimatememelord5494 3 роки тому +7

      Heck, I've read a fanfic about the unseen timeline which slots this movie there.

  • @HughAverageHomoMan
    @HughAverageHomoMan 5 років тому +52

    this movie is more of a "the studio ordered us to make this" than an attempt at a real movie

    • @razkable
      @razkable 5 років тому +12

      I feel like with movies 6-7 they realized people don't give a shit about these films so lets just fuck around this year...theres a cheapness to these 2 films that I don't see in other films ...they cut some corners with the budget ...its clear...wonder what horse race they bet on with that laundered money..hope they lost..

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 5 років тому +9

      No, more like" well people clealry at this point know nothing of significance is going to happen in these movies, so let's just focus on the action."

  • @UncannyMegan
    @UncannyMegan 5 років тому +36

    This movie was the first DBZ tape I ever owned. Everything before that had always been rented (or seen on TV). I very vividly remember a neighbor kid leaving halfway through watching the movie because he was bored.

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +7

      I can't blame him/her for that. I would have too.

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +1

      @Sun Wentai 90 That goes for nearly all of them.

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +2

      @Sun Wentai 90 Not in the Funimation in house dub. Their original dub with the Ocean cast was surprisingly good. I only seen the former. I did say most of the movies are bad not all of them.

    • @rjd-kh8et
      @rjd-kh8et 2 роки тому +1

      @@spartanq7781 Funimation made this movie so much more memorable: ua-cam.com/video/KGgetdpkAVI/v-deo.html

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 2 роки тому

      @@rjd-kh8et I saw the dub no they didn't.

  • @maximilianosanchez1106
    @maximilianosanchez1106 5 років тому +51

    Actually Goku "can't create the Genkidama" while being a super saiyan, but he can lunch it. It still doesn't make sense

    • @Fighter_53
      @Fighter_53 Рік тому

      @Ggnkrsfkoqxbk this made me think of Goku trying to eat a Genki-dama

  • @PrimeroJinJusuke
    @PrimeroJinJusuke 5 років тому +32

    Oh, you did notice #15‘s subtle characterization.

    • @061romell
      @061romell 5 років тому +2

      Was he supposed to be a caricature of black men?

    •  4 роки тому +2

      @@061romell I do not see it.

  • @chriscannon8144
    @chriscannon8144 5 років тому +10

    10:04 (Singing) Inspector Goku Woo-hoo!
    Go Goku Go!
    Gero: I'll get you yet, Son!
    Couldn't resist, that part had me rolling.

  • @henryt3301
    @henryt3301 5 років тому +8

    "Does Doctor Gero have more of those giant computers?"
    According to FighterZ, yes.

  • @DJmouchi777
    @DJmouchi777 5 років тому +28

    Only good thing about this movie is 13's signature move. S.S. Deadly Bomber is a really cool name, plus seeing Goku try to dodge a big, red, homing energy ball is funny to me.

  • @TheAzulmagia
    @TheAzulmagia 5 років тому +77

    Why does Toei like making Chi-Chi so over the top in terms of her shrillness? I never understood that.

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +28

      I know that infuriates me so much. Toei completely shat on her. She is so much better in the manga and in Kai.

    • @deeta000
      @deeta000 5 років тому +19

      It’s easy filler material that just became the norm.

    • @Timothan
      @Timothan 5 років тому +2

      it's funni

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +3

      @@Timothan No it was a problem even in the Japanese version.

    • @Timothan
      @Timothan 5 років тому +2

      no i meant that toei think that it's a reliable and funny gag to fall back on lol

  • @Leonix13
    @Leonix13 5 років тому +37

    I would say the formula goes even further in this movie showing that from now on you're ether a saiyan or you get nothing.

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +5

      Yep unfortunately. Is it really that hard for them including Toriyama to have non Sayians relavent again?

    • @Leonix13
      @Leonix13 5 років тому +2

      @@spartanq7781 it's easy, just have to do it.

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +1

      @@Leonix13 Yea I know that was a snarky way of saying that.

    • @Ashelia_Bnargin_Dalmasca
      @Ashelia_Bnargin_Dalmasca 5 років тому +7

      Spartan Q77: But that would require giving non-Saiyans unique abilities and scenarios where they could utilize them which is way harder than going _"LOOK GOKU IS BLUE NOW!! ITS SUPER SPECIAL AWESOME!!! __-BUY MORE DRAGON BALL STUFF-__ "_ .

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +6

      @@Ashelia_Bnargin_Dalmasca The problem is the pendulum has long been pushed against them. The series could have focused on them too. The Earthlings could have gotten something a long time ago but that ship had long past.

  • @sigilbreaker2628
    @sigilbreaker2628 5 років тому +69

    Just a point on how forgettable this one is: I was actually thinking "oh boy, the next MF movie vid will be Broly, can't wait for what he has to say..."
    Literally forgot this one existed.

    • @Acerthorn
      @Acerthorn 5 років тому +9

      You do realize that MistareFusion literally makes that exact joke, verbatim, in the video itself, right?

    • @sigilbreaker2628
      @sigilbreaker2628 5 років тому +13

      @@Acerthorn Believe it or not I posted this comment when I first saw the video, before he got to that point; when he did I couldn't stop laughing.

    • @tarrellwilks6998
      @tarrellwilks6998 5 років тому +3

      He probibally gone do brolly during the cell games. He usually goes in order from events in the series.

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +4

      @@tarrellwilks6998 I think it was a bit before that. These movie timing are so bizzare. Hell this one happened right as Cell became perfect. Which does not fit for obvious reasons.

    • @tarrellwilks6998
      @tarrellwilks6998 5 років тому +3

      @@spartanq7781 yea this one was the worst in terms of placement and quality. None of them have good placement ecept for the cooler revenge one. The dead zone makes a little sense and wrath of the dragon can make sense except for the fact that they try to explain that future trunks gets his sword from tapion. Ugh

  • @brabbit330
    @brabbit330 5 років тому +22

    “PICCOLO HELP!”
    *gets rescued by Piccolo
    “Oh hey it worked!”
    -Gohan in every DBZ movie

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +11

      Spot on. In the next movie it makes the least amount of sense.

  • @numberoono7633
    @numberoono7633 5 років тому +9

    Tfw you binge-watch over 6 years worth of Dragon Ball Dissection within 24 hours... Wish I was joking about binge watching it in less than a day... I actually just did that. Really loved the work so far, see you in another 6 years, so I can watch them when you finish covering Dragon Ball Super.

  • @comoquinquela
    @comoquinquela 5 років тому +7

    Women be shippin' !
    Saiyans be fightin' !
    that's the circle of life.

    • @Ashelia_Bnargin_Dalmasca
      @Ashelia_Bnargin_Dalmasca 5 років тому +6

      You put shipping instead of shopping but it still made sense cause we do be shippin'!

    • @comoquinquela
      @comoquinquela 5 років тому +4

      @@Ashelia_Bnargin_Dalmasca hahaha I didn't realise the typo. I guess also androids be shippin' cause of their Trucker Hat !

  • @bubbanater07
    @bubbanater07 5 років тому +11

    "Look at my trucker hat"

  • @fabledredeyes
    @fabledredeyes 5 років тому +33

    The amazing thing is that you'll get to dissect the original Broly Movie not much after DBS Broly hits the west.
    That's some timing I tell you.
    Edit: Also noteworthy that my only comment for the dissection of "the 3 great super saiyans" movie is not even about it.

  • @RuthlessAggression99
    @RuthlessAggression99 5 років тому +40

    Poor Goku Balls

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +5

      That is one of the few things I remember. It took until TFS for me to realize that happened though. The dub must gave cut it out or I forgotten like the movie itself.

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +3

      @Subnormaloide * That would be Goten. Gotenks is the fusion character.

    • @DarkSlayerZero2000
      @DarkSlayerZero2000 5 років тому +5

      @@spartanq7781 Nah, it was in the dub alright. Best thing in the movie.

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +3

      @@DarkSlayerZero2000 That and #15.

  • @Pooh396
    @Pooh396 5 років тому +20

    To be fair about the pure of heart genkidama in the buu saga that was after goku master ssj which makes him still have his pure of heart in ssj form

    • @MaxIronsThird
      @MaxIronsThird 5 років тому +12

      Goku was only pushing the Genki-dama in the Buu saga.

    • @Palparepa
      @Palparepa 5 років тому

      Also the "pure of heart" for super saiyan, is only to become one, not to stay as one.

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +3

      In the aforementioned scene in this movie says he can't maintain it in Super Sayain. That was why he absorbed it's power. In the Boo arc he has no problem maintaining in Super Sayian form.

  • @EatWave
    @EatWave Рік тому +2

    Toriyama was still probably in his RPG monster designer mindset when he came up with Super Artificial Human 13's look.

  • @matriaxpunk
    @matriaxpunk 5 років тому +66

    "Worst movie of the original run", I see what you did there lol

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +39

      He doesn't want people to say "but Lance you said Resurrection F was the worse." Nice save on his part.

    • @M3rtyville
      @M3rtyville 5 років тому +3

      There is still battle of gods...

    • @bigbangpegasusmaster
      @bigbangpegasusmaster 4 роки тому +10

      M3rtyville
      Nah, BoG (and Broly) were actually pretty great. RoF though................................................ (and the RoF adaptation in Super may very well be the worst arc in the franchise)

    • @rjd-kh8et
      @rjd-kh8et 3 роки тому +2

      @@M3rtyville Lance liked Battle of Gods and (sort of) DBS: Broly.

    • @tylercoon1791
      @tylercoon1791 3 роки тому +1

      @@bigbangpegasusmaster I’d argue that the Black Star Dragonball Saga, the episode’s before Baby came around specifically, were worse, but that might just be me

  • @TheParappa
    @TheParappa 5 років тому +57

    Worst Dragonball movie, hands down. There is just has no plot. Cyborgs show up, fight, bye.
    The only thing I'm impressed with is how much MistareFusion is able to talk about this amount of nothing. Congrats on that.

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +10

      I know right? I can't wait until he tears apart Resurrection F which is even worse. There is a lot to talk about it almost all of it bad.

    • @TheParappa
      @TheParappa 5 років тому +2

      @@spartanq7781 That F movie was just mediocre to me. Kinda shitty but at least it tried. This one here is far worse I think.

    • @M3rtyville
      @M3rtyville 5 років тому +4

      I think Evolution, RoF and BoG are significantly worse.

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +4

      @@M3rtyville I agree and I forgotten about Dragon Ball Evolution. Damn you for reminding me. We don't talk about that.

    • @ThexDynastxQueen
      @ThexDynastxQueen 5 років тому +2

      I judge DBZ movies on how far I can get through them without sighing. Longest movie I went without doing so is Movie 13. Shortest one is tie between the first Cooler movie and Resurrection F where I saw their covers and sighed.
      This one is near the bottom also but is higher because Goku got punched in the balls.

  • @didgeridude8430
    @didgeridude8430 5 років тому +22

    Wow I’ve never seen Fusion so annoyed - even when reviewing Dragonball Super lol.
    One thing not mentioned is I thought the Arctic environment was really unique. I know it’s not much though it’s unique from the barren wastelands Toriyama has put in the manga at this point, so it’s something.

    • @798jeremy
      @798jeremy 5 років тому +1

      Well about Arctic, there's only the 2nd DBZ movie (with Dr. Willo, you know) with this one and the DBS Broly movie which is coming up next (like very soon now, from where we are) that use this kind of environment, precisely...and you're right, it's quite unique and pretty enjoyable about it !

    • @jackhamilton9604
      @jackhamilton9604 5 років тому +1

      Didgeridude if you want to see him annoyed watch his Episode of Bardock and Dragon Ball Minus videos

  • @megamike15
    @megamike15 5 років тому +17

    i remember a fan thoery going around that this movie was an au where the android arc was dealt with much faster then it originally was. and thats why 17,18, 16 and cell are not around.

    • @federicoarmada8775
      @federicoarmada8775 5 років тому +5

      Yes, maybe this in this universe they killed the androids with the control and the Trunks of this movie is the one that gets killed by Cell.

    • @TheHylden
      @TheHylden 5 років тому +4

      And poor Krillin never gets his girlfriend.

    • @TheAzulmagia
      @TheAzulmagia 5 років тому +4

      Wouldn't that mean that Piccolo would be the strongest guy in the film, though? Because he does significantly worse than Goku, who wouldn't have gone into the Time Chamber at this point and would logically be weaker than him.

    • @federicoarmada8775
      @federicoarmada8775 5 років тому +2

      No, wait, if Cell didn't turn up and they didn't find the secret basement, they could not have made the control.

    • @mielthesquid6536
      @mielthesquid6536 5 років тому +2

      They could have beaten them without the remote control, like just destroying them. I think this is possible if it was a timeline without Cell showing up. But you have to ignore power levels in that case, like Vegeta and Trunks didn't go to the time chamber..

  • @ktg619
    @ktg619 5 років тому +3

    MY TRUCKER HAAA....... oh , someone beat me to the punch.

  • @daddyGbaby
    @daddyGbaby 5 років тому +6

    Don't lecture me with your 30 dollar haircut!

    • @razkable
      @razkable 5 років тому +2

      big green dub of that scene: trunks: ''you cant do anything to me, I come from a world of the future, A world that doesnt even exist yet, And you will have no existence in that future world because today goku will destroy you, destiny have so decided and no one can change the destiny!!'' (as he proceeds to attack 13 with his sword and fight for goku)
      Android 13: then why are you even here an why are you attacking me then if gokus fate is to kill me?..this makes no sense

  • @wonder-games3579
    @wonder-games3579 5 років тому +26

    I will say that the Funimation English dub for this movie did impress me in how it made Android 13 interesting through his dialogue (Albeit inaccurate)

    • @Shinobuu__404
      @Shinobuu__404 5 років тому +6

      He's probably the only reason why I still remember that this movie exists. it's still pretty bland in all honesty

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +7

      @@Shinobuu__404 That would be #15. I love that guy

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +9

      @BlobOfClay TFS did that a lot better. Hell they made the movie so much better.

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +4

      @BlobOfClay I know. The Boo arc scene in Kai is irrelevant here.

  • @animefan77
    @animefan77 5 років тому +5

    14:03- So angry that he briefly turns into Vegeta. I wonder if he's that mad for Super 13 for kicking his balls.

  • @solonsaturngaming3727
    @solonsaturngaming3727 3 роки тому +1

    Only great part is when Vegeta says not till the fish jumps *fish jumps* it’s over as man i died laughing way before DBZA was a thing 😂

  • @kainthedragoon8081
    @kainthedragoon8081 2 роки тому +2

    I’m can’t lie if love this movie but for a single reason: The city scene! We never see fighting or destruction in the city and I think this is like one of three times where it takes place

  • @pikachu0Z
    @pikachu0Z 5 років тому +54

    Team four star is the only saving grace about this movie

    • @sigilbreaker2628
      @sigilbreaker2628 5 років тому +11

      About a lot of the movies, honestly.

    • @dimenteon
      @dimenteon 5 років тому +8

      now, where's ma trucker hat?

    • @pikachu0Z
      @pikachu0Z 5 років тому +4

      No agrument there

    • @Blingman121v3
      @Blingman121v3 5 років тому

      Incorrect.

    • @TheAzulmagia
      @TheAzulmagia 5 років тому +8

      Don't forget Goku getting punched in the nuts.

  • @TheBottomTier
    @TheBottomTier 5 років тому +8

    Dragon Ball Dissection is always the DB content I look forward to more than anything else within the fandom. Keep up the great work.

  • @cisnerd_2093
    @cisnerd_2093 5 років тому +6

    "I think it's the worst movie of the ORIGINAL RUN."
    *side eyes RoF"

  • @tiablue9106
    @tiablue9106 5 років тому +18

    Seen this movie about 3 times, I think. I enjoyed it enough every time, mostly for the humor, especially in the Funi dub.
    “Is it over?”
    “Not ‘til the fish jumps. *fish jumps* It’s over”
    Also, Goku getting punched in the groin knocking him out of SSJ...can’t stop watching that scene, it’s too glorious
    (And Krillin was the only completely useless Z-Fighter in the movie, at least to me. Gohan and Piccolo protected Goku from 13 while he was charging the Spirit Bomb)

  • @Pooh396
    @Pooh396 5 років тому +5

    This movie can fit in the unseen timeline

    • @razkable
      @razkable 5 років тому +1

      movies that have their own timelines...2-4, 6-7, 10-12 even though 10 kinda can fit if you don't think too hard as do 1 and 11 if im being honest its nitpicks for why they don't fit...

  • @anotherdude5974
    @anotherdude5974 5 років тому +59

    I always hated this movie, even as a kid but i think you didn't cover a certain topic enough.
    NO. 13'S FINAL FORM LOOKS SO BAD
    I usually like Toriyama's designs, even the most questionable ones, when he designs a character at best their design tells you everything you need to know about that character and at worst it's just a weird design but No. 13... Everything about his final form its just wrong, first of all, he transforms into generic shirtless buff dude making his appearance really boring, then he has Vegeta's hair and no pupils, that literally sounds to me like a rejected Broly design and on top of that the color choice it's just awful, i know close to nothing about color theory but god damn even i know that this guys it's hard to look at, Blue skin, Orange hair and Green pants, who looked at that and said "yeah, that looks good for our bad guy" he stands out in every bad way because with that color scheme compared to the other characters he seems like he doesn't belong here, he feels like a crappy fan character.
    I hope i explained myself because i seriously have been wanting to talk about that for a looooong time, i really, REALLY, hate No. 13's design, he's probably the laziest design Toriyama has ever done.

    • @razkable
      @razkable 5 років тому +6

      hes meant to be a troll I guess?..yeah I liked 13's og design more but hes kinda a fusion of the androids so it makes sense why he looks like a mess

    • @misterbadguy7325
      @misterbadguy7325 3 роки тому +3

      You know what Super Android 13 looks like? He looks like one of those knockoff action figures. He's an army man's legs and a superhero torso with Vegeta's head on it, painted bright blue with orange hair and yellow eyes and some random gray bits. You can _absolutely_ imagine the guy in a box labeled "DRAGON POWER MAN" along with some gun that doesn't fit in his hand and some miscolored picture of Goku stolen from Deviantart and splashed across the front, being sold discounted at Five and Below.

  • @fireboy312002
    @fireboy312002 3 роки тому +3

    I always hate we didn't get a Red Ribbon Army part 2 after king Piccolo but before this and cell. It's sucks this is what the army been left to...sigh

  • @ico128
    @ico128 5 років тому +14

    I personally find 94's Broly sequels the absolute low point of the Z movies. At least 6 and 7 are straightforward about their brainless fighting formula. Movies 10 and 11 both start with a promising premise and character lineup, only for everyone to end up in a brawl against Broly for most of the runtime until the deus ex machina (Goku's ghost/Water) shows up at the end to help finish him off.

    • @798jeremy
      @798jeremy 5 років тому +1

      I agree, I find DBZ movies 10 and 11 much worse than this one and the previous one...!

  • @apostlenik809
    @apostlenik809 Рік тому +2

    Maybe the movie feels like it's on autopilot because it was actually written by Dr. Gero's underground computer

  • @papawedge7396
    @papawedge7396 2 роки тому +5

    This movie was just an excuse for Kikuchi to make some more awesome BGM that endured until the end of DBZ.

    • @gespenst1329
      @gespenst1329 11 місяців тому +1

      Vegeta’s theme making a strong debut with two additional variations afterwards.
      And then the Genki Dama theme.

  • @dreaming_caiman
    @dreaming_caiman 5 років тому +11

    I remember a fan theory that this movie takes place in a alternate timeline and the Future Trunks in this movie is the one who eventually gets killed by Imperfect Cell.

  • @quantran9028
    @quantran9028 5 років тому +5

    Great analysis!

  • @andorchadas7407
    @andorchadas7407 5 років тому +19

    No offence, Lance, but I think that this movie might be so boring that I can't even pay attention to you talking about it

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +5

      I'm impressed he managed to talk about it for so long.

  • @jakewatson2448
    @jakewatson2448 5 років тому +8

    God damn this series is so fantastic. It showcases so many of the problems of these movies and yet it doesn’t affect my enjoyment of them.....also “women be shopping” the best.

  • @mayhewstorm1473
    @mayhewstorm1473 5 років тому +11

    At least DBZA made it really fun lol

    • @razkable
      @razkable 5 років тому +3

      no funimation beat everyone to it with the end credits scene of sabat saying to himself is it over?..not till the fish jumps..its over..lol..classic ..that scene is originally nothing...also weeklytubeshows parody of green dick over blue dick is classic memes of 2008 quality..go watch it now...its on youtube and its glorious dbz before it was easy to make fun of..

  • @TyroneTG3
    @TyroneTG3 5 років тому +3

    "Women be Shoppin!"

  • @xShinigamiRyukuux
    @xShinigamiRyukuux 4 роки тому +1

    The fact that it's so formulaic makes me glad this was my first movie.

  • @TwilightWolf032
    @TwilightWolf032 4 роки тому +1

    12:50 Damn, that took me a second to understand XD

  • @solaranimations9062
    @solaranimations9062 5 років тому +60

    I have to say, though this movie is pretty bad and very formulaic, it had some fantastic fight scenes, choreography wise anyways. The action in this film was great, the setting was unique (yes I know the 2nd Z film was set in the arctic but that was inside a base not actually outside). We get to see a fight from the city and transition to the arctic. The movie satisfied me when I was a child, because I only cared about the action and that's all that I needed. Nowadays I know there's more to a story then that but I still remember and enjoy the action till this day, Goku and 13 fighting underwater, trunks fighting 2 androids at once being out matched, vegeta stepping in and destroying 15 in a glorious one punch clash fashion, trunks doing the classic samurai sword clash against 14, I could go on. Though a lot of these things are very similar to other things in the show and movie. I don't like this movie, but the action is still fun to go back and look at.

    • @vandad13
      @vandad13 5 років тому +1

      I think most of that stuff is kept intact in the abridged version

    • @solaranimations9062
      @solaranimations9062 5 років тому +1

      vandad13 true, except it’s done better and more comedic. If I’m being honest, if I ever want to go back and watch this movie, I’ll just watch the abridged version as it’s much more entertaining.

    • @sigilbreaker2628
      @sigilbreaker2628 5 років тому +4

      I think whether or not this movie is *the* worst Z movie comes down to whether the fact that it has no high points bothers you more than the low points not being as bad as in some later films.
      Like, there's nothing exceptionally dumb in this film like the ending of Cooler 2 or Broly's backstory in the next one (I'd even say the ending is one of the more logical ones out of the Z films). But there's nothing fun either like a billion Coolers or Broly going on a rampage.

    • @solaranimations9062
      @solaranimations9062 5 років тому +5

      Sigilbreaker26 I definitely don’t think this is the worst Z film, far from it. That honor goes to broly’s second coming, with bio broly falling right behind it. Second coming is pointless, and pretty boring. It’s plot is bland and the action is just okay, well animated, but okay. Broly in that film gets pissed on by trunks, and the film has no tension. Also goku ex machina.

    • @sigilbreaker2628
      @sigilbreaker2628 5 років тому +2

      @@solaranimations9062 Doesn't second coming also have Broly not able to kill Videl?

  • @sillygoose2878
    @sillygoose2878 5 років тому +3

    First of your videos I have watched
    You got a new subscriber

  • @samueljackson3512
    @samueljackson3512 5 років тому +4

    Yay! DBD December ftw

  • @Gardetrace
    @Gardetrace 5 років тому +15

    When I was making my CinemaSins video for this movie, I almost couldn't sit through it. It was worse than I remember it. I thought it was stupid how the Saiyans were spending over 20 minutes of the movie getting their asses kicked until they finally decided to go Super Saiyan. Not to mention Androids 14 and 15 leisurely walking through buildings to get to Goku instead of flying to him from the get go. That was nothing but Toei padding out the runtime in this zero plot movie.

    • @ericbrown6203
      @ericbrown6203 5 років тому +5

      I totally agree....Goku and Trunks both threw rocks at their opponents instead of transforming.

  • @extragirth64
    @extragirth64 5 років тому +6

    I really liked the English dub line of Goku commenting on the women shopping, saying it looked like mud wrestling he saw on TV. Not only that but apparently both Gohan and Goku watch women mud wrestle. For some reason this has me laughing my ass off.
    And of course, **dick-punch**

  • @benjaminpeters6729
    @benjaminpeters6729 5 років тому +2

    It's not over until the fish jumps.

  • @vazak11
    @vazak11 5 років тому +1

    Neat vid, I quite liked the designs myself, but yeah 15 is the most fun XD

  • @ericbrown6203
    @ericbrown6203 5 років тому +5

    One other thing that was particularly irksome in this movie compared to others. The whole "I'm not gonna go Super Saiyan until it's serious" my God. This movie is called "The three Great Super Saiyans" but there is barely any action with them at all Trunks gets double teamed by 14 and 15 nearly gets killed multiple times. Until he fights 14 one on one and then FINALLY turns Super Saiyan and we get to see him fight 14 for a total of 14 seconds before 14 dies.
    Goku fights 13 Multiple times in BASE over and over again and nearly gets killed by 13's S.S. Bomb and FINALLY goes Super Saiyan and all we do is see him fire a bunch of ki blasts. We see most of the hand to hand stuff off screen.
    At least with Vegeta, Vegeta only gets beaten around once and then transforms.
    At one point before they transform into Super Saiyans. Goku throws an Ice block at 13 and Trunks does the same to his Androids. Really? You can boost your power 50 fold and you choose to throw rocks? Dumbass.

  • @dvader518
    @dvader518 5 років тому +5

    I think Movies 9 and maybe 13 are the only ones that could conceivably fit in the timeline with little issue.
    I mean sure, Movie 9 (The Bojack one) has Future Trunks in it but that could easily be explained by him wanting to tell everyone in the present (his past) that he defeated the Future Androids and Future Cell only to get involved with the tournament.
    Anyway, I’m guessing both manga and animé versions of History of Trunks is later this month.
    Next year, the Cell Games, Broly, more Cell Games, Hatchyack, even more Cell Games, DBDTV of the Frieza and Garlic Jr. Sagas and Bojack (though this might stretch into 2020).

  • @mikeythegenesaur719
    @mikeythegenesaur719 5 років тому +2

    I, uh... I actually love this one.

  • @chriscannon8144
    @chriscannon8144 5 років тому +3

    0:40 Damn, it's crazy how fast an anime can catch up with a manga like that, even when there are filler arcs and in canon filler. I can also see why old anime like Saint Seiya had a mess of fillers and extended fights.

  • @randomusername3445
    @randomusername3445 5 років тому +2

    I always wrote off Trunks' line as him trying to intimidate 13. I'm cutting him some slack cause it's a cool line.

  • @chrissullivan6572
    @chrissullivan6572 4 роки тому +1

    This is one of my favorite DBZ movies.

  • @tarrellwilks6998
    @tarrellwilks6998 5 років тому +1

    I always enjoy ypur videos man

  • @sumerapaleema610
    @sumerapaleema610 3 роки тому +2

    I have a soft spot for the three androids for some reason. I particularly love 15's dialogue in Raging Blast 2. X3

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 2 роки тому +1

      #15: "Vegeta!"
      Majin Vegeta: "shut up."
      I love Majin Vegeta's quotes in that game.

  • @abbynormal2419
    @abbynormal2419 5 років тому +6

    I'm glad to know that somebody else dislikes this thing about as much as I do. I feel like this one gets a pass, possibly because nobody actually remembers it.

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +5

      That isn't so much a pass. As much as it is a repressed memory. I remember all of the other movies just not this one. I would like to forget about it again. Hell I pretty sure I'm going to.

    • @ThexDynastxQueen
      @ThexDynastxQueen 5 років тому +6

      The only reason I remember it is because the off button for SS was found and Future Trunks was going to bring a sword to a ladies swimsuit competition which just fits my head canon for the boy so perfectly.

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 5 років тому +3

      Proabbly because it delivered what people expected from DBZ movies.

  • @BrianAwesome
    @BrianAwesome 4 роки тому +1

    @MistareFusion, perhaps this movie takes place in the "Unseen Timeline" , where a "Future Cell" never showed up.

  • @Hdubs44
    @Hdubs44 5 років тому +2

    The only thing I remember about this movie was goku getting punched in the dick

  • @gruknarorcishwar-yerhereto8489
    @gruknarorcishwar-yerhereto8489 3 роки тому +1

    I honestly liked this movie as a kid. It was the first dragon ball movie a saw and then the ones after where pretty good

  • @drzal1221
    @drzal1221 3 роки тому +3

    Dont you lecture me with your 30 dollar haircut
    Imo this movie is so bad but the dialogue in the English dub makes it charming

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 2 роки тому +1

      #15 is comedy gold. He's the only saving grace.

  • @Jotari
    @Jotari 3 роки тому +1

    So I'm just spit balling here and I highly doubt I'm the first one to ever come to this conclusion, but the Cell arc establishes four different timelines for Dragon Ball.
    1. The original unaltered time line where Trunks hails from.
    2. The altered timeline that Trunks and Cell travel to that the series follows.
    3. A variation of the first timeline where in Cell kills Trunks.
    4. A hypothetical timeline that the Trunks from timeline 3 was trying to travel back to that was split when Cell travelled back instead.
    In otherwords there is a timeline out there where Trunks still travels back to the present, but Cell doesn't. The androids are, presumably, defeated and Trunks returns to the future, defeats them again and then is killed by Cell, but the original timeline continues on nonetheless. In other words the Trunks in this movie is a younger version of the one Cell from the series later talks about killing (hell Trunks even uses his sword in this movie and in the flashback Cell has of killing him if I remember everything correctly, which lines up so well, though why it was never destroyed fighting 18 in the first place makes no sense).
    So we're looking at a scenario where the androids were defeated (or rendered non hostile) because Future Trunks shows up, but Cell never subsequently shows up. Without Cell to tell them about the underground lab, Gero's computer just sits there with its cell plan another two decades away from completion and has no choice but to activate the earlier models (and fortunately for the heroes he does it within a time frame where Trunks is still hanging around). It actually lines up pretty well. Granted it requires fourth dimensional nerd thinking that the makers of the movie obviously never intended.

  • @blur7491
    @blur7491 Рік тому +1

    Several years late, I know, but I think this is the one case where mostly everyone agrees Funimation did it better.
    Lines such as "IF THE GREAT GOKU CANT HANDLE THE INDIANS, WHY BRING OUT THE CHEF?" and "KID'S HAS BEEN OUT FOR THE SUN FOR WaAaAyYyY tOoOO LONG!" still make me laugh everytime.

  • @ForwardSynthesis
    @ForwardSynthesis 5 років тому +7

    The part about continuity was interesting. The movies don't fit well with the canon story, but how many of the movies can fit into each other's continuity? Is it possible to say there's a movieverse, or is it so convoluted that even each separate movie would practically have to be its own alternative universe?

    • @nousukas
      @nousukas 2 роки тому +1

      There is a video on UA-cam called something like "Why the Dragon ball movies cant't happen".

  • @RokaSoka
    @RokaSoka 5 років тому +1

    I will say that I loved the super saiyan spirit bomb scene and gets me pumped when I go back to rewatch it. Too bad you did not mention that scene.

  • @jiggycalzone8585
    @jiggycalzone8585 Рік тому

    Ya plum done gone dadgum did it now, son!

  • @xExotic
    @xExotic 3 роки тому +1

    Detailed but to the point. Great review!

  • @TheCrossSoldier
    @TheCrossSoldier 5 років тому +6

    You're right in that this movie is incredibly bland. These villains are just so lackluster that it is one of the rare times I largely don't mind their changes in the English dub. At least the English dub version of Android 13 had some amusing lines like, "Don't you lecture me with your $30 hair cut! Goku dies!" I think the only change about Android 13 in the English dub that I didn't like was him calling Goku a "city boy." That's an incredibly inaccurate and nonsensical nickname for Goku.
    Also, while I won't deny that Android 13 has aspects of him that are definitely taken from Cell and is an analogue of him to an extent, it is not to the degree that Cooler is to Freeza or that Janemba is to Majin Buu. Android 13's similarities to Cell really only extend to being created by Dr. Gero and obtaining a more powerful form after absorbing other creations of Dr. Gero. However, Cell is a bug man who can absorb people by impaling his tail into them or cyborgs by opening up his tail and swallowing them whole to get more powerful. Android 13 is a robot who looks like a regular person and becomes more powerful by absorbing parts of other androids into him through his skin. It's not nearly as creepy as Cell's. I think a more accurate comparison for Android 13 would be that he's a malevolent version of Android 16 with a variation of gaining more power by absorption like Cell.
    If you want an example of a character who I feel is a better analogue of Cell, I would point to Ozotto from the video game Dragon Ball V.R.V.S. Ozotto seems to have been based on one of Cell's earlier designs and mixed with Freeza's second form. He even has his own powered up form for fighting. However, instead of a mix between Freeza's true form and Cell's perfect form, Ozotto's powered up form is an inflated version of him with two extra arms making him look more like Cell's self-destruction form. I'm not saying this comparison this perfect, just that I feel Ozotto is better analogue to Cell than Android 13.

  • @devilskind92
    @devilskind92 4 роки тому +1

    It always saddens me when you mention the Genki-Dama music because oh my god ever since I heard it when Goku defeated Majin Boo (yeah, that was the first time I heard it cause somehow I missed the Cell arc everytime it was on tv) it became my absolute favorite piece of Dragon Ball soundtrack. I always get so emotional when I hear it.
    ... Due to nostalgia, I might have a soft spot for the Boo arc even though it's not exactly... good.
    Oh man the dissection of that arc is gonna hurt isn't it?

  • @trainmaster997
    @trainmaster997 4 роки тому +1

    My idea is that this movie could fit into the timeline that trunks came back but cell didn’t appear in

  • @astrostar49
    @astrostar49 5 років тому +6

    Yeah, this movie is just the epitome of the movie series in terms of how formulaic and stale it gets. I've tried to watch it a few times again over the years, but I don't think I can sit down and watch it all the way through again. Funny how No. 17 and 18 are dropped into the start of the film, and never heard from again. I didn't even like Shunsuke Kikuchi's score for this one. Everything sucked. Well, I guess Piccolo trying to go for the body slam was cool, but that's about it. Too bad Toei didn't try harder with these movies.

  • @Thebabybadass101
    @Thebabybadass101 5 років тому

    Lance I worked a long miserable Christmas rush shift today just to come home for some more DBD thank you ❤️

  • @spartanq7781
    @spartanq7781 5 років тому +3

    This movie was tedious as hell to me. That rant of yours was well warranted. I also forgotten about this movie. Now I remember why. The only good part is when the three Super Sayians transform. That and the unique genki dama. I also really love #15. He genuinely makes me laugh. Oh and Goku getting lowed blowed. Man that must of hurt like hell.

    • @M3rtyville
      @M3rtyville 5 років тому +3

      I only remember it because of the "Goku getting punched in the balls" gifs

  • @carly8435
    @carly8435 5 років тому

    Honestly the only reason I remember this movie's existence is because of the "Howdy! I'm Android 13! Look at my trucker hat!" gag from TFS.

  • @darkknight5541
    @darkknight5541 3 роки тому +1

    Gonna be honest, the only reason I remember this movie is because of the "Not until the fish jumps" exchange. Much prefer the Abridged Version, even if it is mostly just jokes.

  • @oddskymikha8185
    @oddskymikha8185 5 років тому

    Oh Thank GOD I finally found you again! Seriously, after binging your videos a while back I forgot to subscribe and you ended up lost in the history tab. Glad to have finally pushed that subscribe button.

  • @Mephistophelolz
    @Mephistophelolz 5 років тому +2

    wen broly

  • @metal87power
    @metal87power 5 років тому +1

    One shouldn't have great expectation from a DB movie. I find them nothing more than a guilty pleasure. Good, flashy, epic fighting scenes, etc. this one also has nice drawings and animation.

  • @andrewoost9048
    @andrewoost9048 2 роки тому

    Maybe its because I haven't seen enough women very shopping jokes to get tired of them, or maybe it's because of how you said it, but I laughed so hard when you brought that up

  • @Irrelevant402
    @Irrelevant402 5 років тому +2

    Oh no! I can't believe a Dragonball Z movie doesn't perfectly fit into the anime! This never happened before!
    But yeah it is formulaic. Even though Lord Slug did more things right...I still prefer to watch this over that. That said I love that spirit bomb music because I love Buu death in the Japanese version so that music has stuck with me.

  • @798jeremy
    @798jeremy 5 років тому +3

    I liked this movie though because it's one of the very few movies Vegeta had a true moment to shine, even for a little while...like killing an android on his own, in this case and yes, just for that, it's one of my favorites, along with the Metal Cooler one (even better again, in my opinion) and the OG Bardock tv special (hands down, my personnal number one, period, besides all the others ever made, even until nowadays), mostly. And a bit less for those with Broly, Bojack, Janemba and Hirudegarn, where Vegeta just became more and more useless by himself...well, at least he served for Gogeta fusion with Goku against Janemba, but yet he almost felt sorry to be even here, which I obviously hate it from him ! So...yep, that's pretty much it about my thoughts. Oh, and I also thought Fukkatsu No F was a better movie than Battle of Gods...

  • @Pokemonleafmon
    @Pokemonleafmon 5 років тому +5

    I remember watching this movie a year back...
    It was boring as dirt

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 5 років тому +2

      Dirt is far more interesting. Dirt has interesting things happening in it. This has nothing to it. So don't insult dirt by putting in in the same level as this movie.

    • @Pokemonleafmon
      @Pokemonleafmon 5 років тому +2

      @@spartanq7781 I'm so sorry. You're right, I really should acknowledge the intricacies of dirt and soil. There is so much life and energy contained within it.
      Im sorry for my sin

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 5 років тому

      You're more insulting the animators, voice actors, and musician's who worked on this by acting like the entire movie was bad when really it was just the story.

    • @Pokemonleafmon
      @Pokemonleafmon 5 років тому

      @@fightingmedialounge519 As a cohesive unit the movie was dull. The fact that the score, acting, and animation were great doesn't change that for me. Depending on the project and situation, even if the rest of it is competent, if the package as a whole is boring, it's boring. There is no reason for me to sugarcoat it.

  • @monfe5532
    @monfe5532 4 роки тому

    I always forget this movie exists. I was talking about dbz movies with friend a few weeks ago and I couldn't remember what movie 7 was to save my life

  • @Xenav14
    @Xenav14 3 роки тому +1

    I've heard some people suggesting this this movie could of been used as a real place for Trunks and Krillian to go back to Gero's lab and find the secret lab, as it would make more sense than Cell just blabbing it all out needlessly for no real reason other than to inform the readers.

  • @quinnblackwood6397
    @quinnblackwood6397 4 роки тому +2

    At least the Funi dub was... funny.