When I was in college . My crush used to avoid me. She knew I loved her. But treated me like a ✋ extra. Later when I joined surgery. She wanted to spend time with me and be closer. She even mocked my relationship with a fellow anesthesiologist who was fat. And fatshamed her. I can't say bad to her but i lost my love for her. Fast forward. The cute chubby girl became my wife and was not so chubby anymore. I told her to loose weight not for I was embarrassed but for health reasons.
Is so true i remember when i was in high school i was like one girl but she was ignoring me, when my professor called me and said i was one of them that was accepted for the apprenticeship. Then that girl sent me a message and then i ignored her but unfortunately bro hypergamy are all women even the anesthesiologist woman probably she would have avoided you if she had known you earlier when you had not succeeded.
It seems like men are casting a wide net and hope to get a fish but women seem to be like snipers and want to take out the one in charge with one shot.
I respectfully disagree, logical good women rather have a good God fearing/loving man of God that is sane, a protector, provider, healthy, kind, mature, safe to be with or nothing at all😎
But also keep in mind that dating sites foster a very specific type of interaction and thus the numbers are dramatized. Unless you think guys hit on 60% of the women they meet
@@crabb9966 if you hold the completely unhinged idea that Tinder = real life, sure. But if you apply any *actual* logic, your assertion terribly unreasonable. Sis.
The most heavily weighted category in the calculation is height. This is followed by a men’s facial attractiveness which is simply a combination of symmetry and geometry of various facial features. Those are the two most heavily weighted categories. Which, is also worth concentrating on. We never seem to talk about that
@@abhinavchauhan7864 Women say acting feminine and cutesy is sexist and gross but they want tall guys so they can "feel feminine". They go straight back into their nature when tall men are around, they submit. God they're such a meme gender; I haven't had a girlfriend in so long now and my mental health has improved massively
Women are pickier about what goes into them. Men are less picky about who they go into. Women also are attracted to different types of men at different stages in their cycle. And a lot of the times it's exact opposite the type of men they are attracted to based off their cycle. To make a statement about what women want is reaching. To to that study you can't just ask women. There are multiple categories that need to be taken into consideration. To make a broad educated guess I can't imagine it being semi reliable. Culture, age, upbringing, environment, time of the month, stage of reproductive cycles, if they have children, previous married.
If you've read most of the profiles on these dating sites, it's abundantly clear that these women are only after attention and not a relationship. I swear they use it as a confidence booster, then get off and go to a club to hookup with some random dirtbag.
@@censortube8838Lol the only reason why they do that on the internet is because they're so intolerable in person that they can't get simps in real life or they're catfishing.
Women have to think about what would happen if she had children with any particular man she's dating and will possibly marry. Would he be able and willing to properly provide for the family or would she have to continue working a job and leave her baby with daycare workers. I had to work when my kids were little because I was young and clueless and married a dusty man, and I can tell you that if I had to do it all over again, the better choice for my children's well-being would have been to be hypergamous and stay home with them and watch over them myself. Daycare workers don't love your kid like you do.
The cost of living on most countries requires a dual income now. To be able to have 1 partner provide requires them to be in the top few percentiles of income, so regardless, most women need to work
It’s almost impossible to put financial responsibility on one partner since living costs have skyrocket. It’s only possible If the partner works in the top percentage
@@JorgeChavez-du5vm No, darling. Nothing was said about being a single welfare recipient. Try to read with comprehension before posting non sequitur replies, my apparently dusty friend.
@@littlenugget293 Sorry, but that's an excuse. My daughter married an initally dusty man who made money as a street-busking musician/singer. When it came time to consider having a baby, he came up with a plan. He went back to school to get his masters to be a licensed clinical social worker. He found work right away with the VA. After a couple of years, he applied for an overseas position as a civilian LCSW working at an Air Force base in Japan. After dealing with red tape, he got the job and relocated to Japan . He took his family there and has steadily worked and also taken continuing education courses and seminars and has increased his salary. He is more than able to support his family on his salary alone. A second baby is on the way. They are out exploring Japan together almost every weekend. Where there is a will, there is a way. If a male isn't man enough to get out there and do whatever he needs to do to support his family without his wife having to work and not be able to stay home with the children, it's my opinion that he isn't ready to father any children. He's got to make it happen with no excuses. Desperate women who just want a male, any male, are also not ready to bring a child into such uncertain circumstances. Imho it's not fair to the child. This is all only possible if both are willing to live within the means of the husband's income.
"Women tend to date men about 4 years older than them." That's very true as the most common age gaps in American marriages are 0-3 years and then 3-5 years with the women being younger. These manosphere channels tell men that if they improve their money in their late 30's and early 40's they can pull women 10-20 years younger than them in their early and mid 20's. But in reality those women are dating men around their own age. They only date much older men if they are extremely wealthy not just average earning.
But lots of very rich guys can and often do date younger women. Most men aren't rich, but a high percentage of the ones who are older, and most women can't attract a rich man for a committed LTR. Hence most cases are women and men nearly the same age.
Or simply they are just afraid of strange men. You underestimate the fear of strangers in women. When I was on dating sites I rarely swiped right. Maybe one person per month or I forget to logon at all because too many swipe lefts when I did. And the reason was I wanted profiles that gave me a safe vibe/felt right. Some ppl were too old, some ppl had opposite beliefs to me, some ppl had abbreviated profiles so I cldnt get enough info about them to judge, some ppl had scary or rude tones in their profile or offensive pictures and saying etc It wasn’t about hypergamy but i safety in my case. Like it’s scary to communicate with someone who says if you are a ho move along. Like there is anybody who calls themselves a ho. It’s a insult from a third party not something someone calls themselves. So that tells me you are someone I want nothing to do with or I don’t feel safe around. Or you have many muscle pics and nothing else no bio no nothing, creepy. Or just pics and very high amounts of money, no other context or voice behind all that. Or you call yrself atheist, that’s just not my thing. Or you smoke or you say I am “very traditional” that makes me think you want to act out 1950s with me which isn’t my thing etc. Point being the swipes or lack thereof may not be what you assume but many reasons like how safe does the person seem. Or is he worth risking meeting a stranger if we are opposites.
@@tanyamilewski5700 Yes, I get what you’re saying but i think it still all ties into hypergamy itself because a woman is still looking for those “superior” traits which signal to her if the guy is good enough to be dated and it will also be through the way he communicates through his profile. So in this case women are checking if the guy is a weirdo or not, they might be rich or look rich but they also have to pass the “is he socially adept?“ criteria which is also part of the hypergamy process so I think it’s included rather than separate.
My point is the degree hypergamy contributes maybe smaller than what is being suggested or what is believed. So it may mislead men as to why only a few get swiped Eg I am not good enough rather than I present as rude. Had you changed a few things on profile Eg removing scary pics or language you wld get a swipe, rather than making more money or some other hierarchy. I think hypergamy is more relevant when a man wants to dominate a woman cz you have to convince you are dominant or earn it. You can’t be less dominant than me but expect to dominate me just because you are owed dominance. for example you can’t be less rich or less successful and expect to tell me what to do all the time Eg what to do with my money or career. Why shd I stop what I was doing which was working and start listening to you just because you are a man? Why not take your own advise first and show the results of that advise. I think online dating is different from that
@@tanyamilewski5700 I get where you are coming from in saying that you think hypergamy is perhaps a lesser degree to what is actually being suggested and it is in fact women looking to be safe because mens online profiles may make them seem creepy or dangerous. However what I’m saying is that, these two things aren’t separate like you are saying, they are still under “hypergamy” because hypergamy isn’t just about looking for the rich successful guy, it’s got other factors as well such as seeing his social status, and if a guy looks scary or creepy then it is a woman’s hypergamy that is making her think that this guy looks like a creep therefore people probably don’t like him or he could not be good for my safety. Basically it doesn’t look like a safe bet to go out with him. Women are always wired to look for the best for them and their offspring and the safety thing you’re talking about still fits under hypergamy. It’s not a separate thing.
Why should I as a Chad trade down for anything below me? It would be an insult to my whole bloodline! It makes no sense - I only mate with stacies 7/10 and up!
Even Pederson can sometimes be a bit sloppy in the definition of hypergamy. The 4% swipe rate is an illustration of the mating selectivity of women, a large part of which is due to hypergamy. But there is a distinction. JP knows what hypergamy is. But it is not best illustrated by the 4% swipe rate. There are more than 4% of those men who are of equal or higher socioeconomic status than those mostly average women.
Do you know what I like how I look up all these newly created words, and every single one of them has explained at the end huh wonder why you have to explain it it’s not like it was just created🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Men and women can be hypergamous, stop this ridiculous generalization. How can you say all women are, what of the women who aren't, where then do you place them.
I just love watching 2 men or just all men in general discussing women. And studies that relate to women. There is automatic bias. Also talking facts even tho it is impossible for men to truly grasp understanding of women, and same for women to men. Talking about other gender is automatic biased to some degree. You can't experience what it is to be a women, what science and biology class as a women. And same for males.
Ok... There's inherently bias. That doesn't equate to... Don't make the effort. Or that the 'findings' are necessarily wrong. This is the clever way... To provide oneself 'An Out'... if you don't like... the implications of the data (?)
@no no no bro doesn’t think hormones affect the brain and cause people to fall in love 😂 Literally every endocrinologist, sociologist, and psychologist disagrees with you lol
When I was in college . My crush used to avoid me. She knew I loved her. But treated me like a ✋ extra.
Later when I joined surgery.
She wanted to spend time with me and be closer.
She even mocked my relationship with a fellow anesthesiologist who was fat. And fatshamed her.
I can't say bad to her but i lost my love for her. Fast forward.
The cute chubby girl became my wife and was not so chubby anymore. I told her to loose weight not for I was embarrassed but for health reasons.
by joined surgery you mean you became a doctor?
@@ExoecistBlue
Of course, you need a Medicine degree to become a surgeon.
@@azar1520 no i thought he got aesthetic surgery
For health reasons...right? 😉
Is so true i remember when i was in high school i was like one girl but she was ignoring me, when my professor called me and said i was one of them that was accepted for the apprenticeship. Then that girl sent me a message and then i ignored her but unfortunately bro hypergamy are all women even the anesthesiologist woman probably she would have avoided you if she had known you earlier when you had not succeeded.
It seems like men are casting a wide net and hope to get a fish but women seem to be like snipers and want to take out the one in charge with one shot.
Perfectly said
This is a perfect way of putting it.
Lol. That used to me. I literally would just swipe and not even really look and see who bites the bait
Because men want to spread their offspring and women want to find the best man they can get.
Women would rather share a "winner" than have a "looser" all to them selfs.
I respectfully disagree, logical good women rather have a good God fearing/loving man of God that is sane, a protector, provider, healthy, kind, mature, safe to be with or nothing at all😎
@@Time4change111only if the man reciprocates that behavior
4%, just wow! Whole time I thought women liked 20% of men.
But also keep in mind that dating sites foster a very specific type of interaction and thus the numbers are dramatized. Unless you think guys hit on 60% of the women they meet
@@maxwellmaxwell3042 with that logic men should go for more than 60 percent irl
@@crabb9966 that doesn’t logically follow but go off sis
@@maxwellmaxwell3042 what is up with you... sis? Yes it follows the same logic. People are more picky on daying apps -> men are less picky irl
@@crabb9966 if you hold the completely unhinged idea that Tinder = real life, sure. But if you apply any *actual* logic, your assertion terribly unreasonable. Sis.
The most heavily weighted category in the calculation is height. This is followed by a men’s facial attractiveness which is simply a combination of symmetry and geometry of various facial features. Those are the two most heavily weighted categories. Which, is also worth concentrating on. We never seem to talk about that
And third must be physique?
Modern Women says they dont need anyone but at the same time they like tall men cause tall men can protect you better.
yes women tend to be with the succesful man to take care of her but she cheats with the handsome men
3rd is status, 4th is bank account, 5th is 🍆 size and 6th is weight/physique
@@abhinavchauhan7864 Women say acting feminine and cutesy is sexist and gross but they want tall guys so they can "feel feminine". They go straight back into their nature when tall men are around, they submit. God they're such a meme gender; I haven't had a girlfriend in so long now and my mental health has improved massively
Just called 40% of the female population unattractive.
Women are pickier about what goes into them. Men are less picky about who they go into. Women also are attracted to different types of men at different stages in their cycle. And a lot of the times it's exact opposite the type of men they are attracted to based off their cycle. To make a statement about what women want is reaching. To to that study you can't just ask women. There are multiple categories that need to be taken into consideration. To make a broad educated guess I can't imagine it being semi reliable. Culture, age, upbringing, environment, time of the month, stage of reproductive cycles, if they have children, previous married.
just increase the amount of inbound alcohol 🤣
Underrated
If you've read most of the profiles on these dating sites, it's abundantly clear that these women are only after attention and not a relationship. I swear they use it as a confidence booster, then get off and go to a club to hookup with some random dirtbag.
The only thing estrogen producers are "picky" about is the bank account figure of the one that they wish to keep.
@@censortube8838Lol the only reason why they do that on the internet is because they're so intolerable in person that they can't get simps in real life or they're catfishing.
Women have to think about what would happen if she had children with any particular man she's dating and will possibly marry. Would he be able and willing to properly provide for the family or would she have to continue working a job and leave her baby with daycare workers. I had to work when my kids were little because I was young and clueless and married a dusty man, and I can tell you that if I had to do it all over again, the better choice for my children's well-being would have been to be hypergamous and stay home with them and watch over them myself. Daycare workers don't love your kid like you do.
The cost of living on most countries requires a dual income now. To be able to have 1 partner provide requires them to be in the top few percentiles of income, so regardless, most women need to work
It’s almost impossible to put financial responsibility on one partner since living costs have skyrocket. It’s only possible If the partner works in the top percentage
Lol you're saying that being a single welfare recipient is a better option when it's been well known to be a much worse choice than the one you made.
@@JorgeChavez-du5vm No, darling. Nothing was said about being a single welfare recipient. Try to read with comprehension before posting non sequitur replies, my apparently dusty friend.
@@littlenugget293 Sorry, but that's an excuse. My daughter married an initally dusty man who made money as a street-busking musician/singer. When it came time to consider having a baby, he came up with a plan. He went back to school to get his masters to be a licensed clinical social worker. He found work right away with the VA. After a couple of years, he applied for an overseas position as a civilian LCSW working at an Air Force base in Japan. After dealing with red tape, he got the job and relocated to Japan . He took his family there and has steadily worked and also taken continuing education courses and seminars and has increased his salary. He is more than able to support his family on his salary alone. A second baby is on the way. They are out exploring Japan together almost every weekend.
Where there is a will, there is a way. If a male isn't man enough to get out there and do whatever he needs to do to support his family without his wife having to work and not be able to stay home with the children, it's my opinion that he isn't ready to father any children. He's got to make it happen with no excuses. Desperate women who just want a male, any male, are also not ready to bring a child into such uncertain circumstances. Imho it's not fair to the child. This is all only possible if both are willing to live within the means of the husband's income.
Women rarely mate across... Almost always up.
Women only swipe right on the top 5% of men.
"Women tend to date men about 4 years older than them." That's very true as the most common age gaps in American marriages are 0-3 years and then 3-5 years with the women being younger. These manosphere channels tell men that if they improve their money in their late 30's and early 40's they can pull women 10-20 years younger than them in their early and mid 20's. But in reality those women are dating men around their own age. They only date much older men if they are extremely wealthy not just average earning.
But lots of very rich guys can and often do date younger women. Most men aren't rich, but a high percentage of the ones who are older, and most women can't attract a rich man for a committed LTR. Hence most cases are women and men nearly the same age.
#Societypressure #culturepressure some people follow the norm. I follow me and aim for my goals
Women date up and men date down
And to secure and improve the future of their progeny
Or simply they are just afraid of strange men. You underestimate the fear of strangers in women. When I was on dating sites I rarely swiped right. Maybe one person per month or I forget to logon at all because too many swipe lefts when I did. And the reason was I wanted profiles that gave me a safe vibe/felt right. Some ppl were too old, some ppl had opposite beliefs to me, some ppl had abbreviated profiles so I cldnt get enough info about them to judge, some ppl had scary or rude tones in their profile or offensive pictures and saying etc It wasn’t about hypergamy but i safety in my case. Like it’s scary to communicate with someone who says if you are a ho move along. Like there is anybody who calls themselves a ho. It’s a insult from a third party not something someone calls themselves. So that tells me you are someone I want nothing to do with or I don’t feel safe around. Or you have many muscle pics and nothing else no bio no nothing, creepy. Or just pics and very high amounts of money, no other context or voice behind all that. Or you call yrself atheist, that’s just not my thing. Or you smoke or you say I am “very traditional” that makes me think you want to act out 1950s with me which isn’t my thing etc.
Point being the swipes or lack thereof may not be what you assume but many reasons like how safe does the person seem. Or is he worth risking meeting a stranger if we are opposites.
So summed up, women are pickier lol
@@WYJAFAK2 but it may not be mostly hypergamy as they suggest but safety from danger
@@tanyamilewski5700 Yes, I get what you’re saying but i think it still all ties into hypergamy itself because a woman is still looking for those “superior” traits which signal to her if the guy is good enough to be dated and it will also be through the way he communicates through his profile. So in this case women are checking if the guy is a weirdo or not, they might be rich or look rich but they also have to pass the “is he socially adept?“ criteria which is also part of the hypergamy process so I think it’s included rather than separate.
My point is the degree hypergamy contributes maybe smaller than what is being suggested or what is believed. So it may mislead men as to why only a few get swiped Eg I am not good enough rather than I present as rude. Had you changed a few things on profile Eg removing scary pics or language you wld get a swipe, rather than making more money or some other hierarchy.
I think hypergamy is more relevant when a man wants to dominate a woman cz you have to convince you are dominant or earn it. You can’t be less dominant than me but expect to dominate me just because you are owed dominance. for example you can’t be less rich or less successful and expect to tell me what to do all the time Eg what to do with my money or career. Why shd I stop what I was doing which was working and start listening to you just because you are a man? Why not take your own advise first and show the results of that advise. I think online dating is different from that
@@tanyamilewski5700 I get where you are coming from in saying that you think hypergamy is perhaps a lesser degree to what is actually being suggested and it is in fact women looking to be safe because mens online profiles may make them seem creepy or dangerous.
However what I’m saying is that, these two things aren’t separate like you are saying, they are still under “hypergamy” because hypergamy isn’t just about looking for the rich successful guy, it’s got other factors as well such as seeing his social status, and if a guy looks scary or creepy then it is a woman’s hypergamy that is making her think that this guy looks like a creep therefore people probably don’t like him or he could not be good for my safety. Basically it doesn’t look like a safe bet to go out with him. Women are always wired to look for the best for them and their offspring and the safety thing you’re talking about still fits under hypergamy. It’s not a separate thing.
They like and swipe right only 4% percent of women that is not across and up is only up women are going only above.
Why should I as a Chad trade down for anything below me? It would be an insult to my whole bloodline! It makes no sense - I only mate with stacies 7/10 and up!
Its not just about looks. As a chad u should date women on the same level as u or higher in terms of success in money status etc
@@managedownside6913 got em he looking at attraction
We must have and financial standards with women not only appearance standards i mean women do that so we have to do the same.
That’s why women have high body counts, they think “chad” will settle with them when they’re 5/10’s they get pump and dumped, rinse and repeat
@@managedownside6913 yup
Divorce, solo parents, entropy its going to hell because science is so reductive.
It's true though
Even Pederson can sometimes be a bit sloppy in the definition of hypergamy. The 4% swipe rate is an illustration of the mating selectivity of women, a large part of which is due to hypergamy. But there is a distinction. JP knows what hypergamy is. But it is not best illustrated by the 4% swipe rate. There are more than 4% of those men who are of equal or higher socioeconomic status than those mostly average women.
well thats need some revenge iam hypergamous from now and on
Do one hypergammy people
1%
Do you know what I like how I look up all these newly created words, and every single one of them has explained at the end huh wonder why you have to explain it it’s not like it was just created🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fatherless Behavior. Sugar Daddies. Trix. Thirst Trap.
Stop coping, it's in their nature.
Make woman programed difrantly.😂😂
Think of the comercal potental.
Beyond cars beyond electronics planes surgary etc.
Plusabile with ge and ai.😂
Men and women can be hypergamous, stop this ridiculous generalization. How can you say all women are, what of the women who aren't, where then do you place them.
I just love watching 2 men or just all men in general discussing women. And studies that relate to women. There is automatic bias. Also talking facts even tho it is impossible for men to truly grasp understanding of women, and same for women to men. Talking about other gender is automatic biased to some degree. You can't experience what it is to be a women, what science and biology class as a women. And same for males.
Is your male to female transition finished yet?
Females are really easy to understand, it’s like a child. Men are men.
Ok... There's inherently bias. That doesn't equate to... Don't make the effort. Or that the 'findings' are necessarily wrong. This is the clever way... To provide oneself 'An Out'... if you don't like... the implications of the data (?)
@no no no bro doesn’t think hormones affect the brain and cause people to fall in love 😂
Literally every endocrinologist, sociologist, and psychologist disagrees with you lol
Bs lol😂 most women are more shallow then men
What hit? Women get alimony , the social state makes sure she wins even if dating up ends up bad
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in other words our ancestors knew best..