I love it. I watched many videos that were not as enlightening as yours. I appreciate that you researched many types of germination and demonstrated them to us. Thank you very much. I had removed my seeds from their shells and was concerned that they were not germinating. I'll attempt the no-soak variant and hopefully get something. Thank you!
@@JolleanSmith I hate seed soaking too, I have lost seeds to it. I know it helps to loosen up shells on most seeds but I found moist soil does the same.
I hadn't really thought of that. That is interesting. I know many people do though, and one thing I know for sure, I am not always right. Probably more wrong than right in fact. Which is why I love garden experiments like this one. Your comment was thought provoking, thank you!
Hi thank you for this! Just a little more data for you, I recently tried 10 moringa seeds all nicked and none of them germinated (none soaked). That's why I'm looking at moringa seed generation videos! I'm definitely going to try no nick.
@@JolleanSmith So alternatively we can not crack open that outter coating at all, to avoid accidental nicking of the actual seed? Because I'm sure in the process of cracking open that outter coating (as others have recommended) I've nicked more than a few of my precious seeds and maybe that's why they're not sprouting!
@BlueSkySanctuaryBaja so you can do it but what I found was that is was not necessary. Lots of places instruct you to nick the seed but I am all about find the easiest and most effective way. And in this case it was just putting them in the soil as is.
Going to try the direct sow into regular potting mix method for sure. I am still waiting after 2+ weeks after the soak + nick method so at this point, it's safe to assume nothing is coming out of that! Thank you for your video.
Yea they have pretty consistently appeared for me 12-14 days after planting. Make sure you keep the next batch evenly moist. In a warm place. I had indirect sun. I did not use a heat mat. Let me know how you make out.
I love garden experiments! I have a little ‘greenhouse’ in my spare bathroom (shelves, lights and heat mats) and I’ve been trying seeds with light and heat and without one or the other just to see what works to make things quicker and easier in the future. Simple is good. It has been cold, I’ve been wondering how your greenhouse was doing. It kept temps in the 70’s? How about our freezing nights we’ve had? I hope you keep us up to date with the moringa, including how to use it. I’ve heard of it, but really don’t know much about it.
It is funny how sometimes we complicate simple procedures that really could be simple. I have some video filmed with a semi update on the video and the cold nights. Spoiler alert, it's not going 100% amazingly well. Not terrible but I actually did better last year in that AOSOM Greenhouse. I am not sure if it is the plastic we have chosen or if it is the change in heating methods. But stay tuned, that video is coming soon. I will definitely share more on the Moringa. I plan to dry it and make smoothies mixes for the farmers market. Long ways away from that, but that is the vision. Hope you are well! Thanks for being here.
nice video,,,, have currently planted some seeds with 50% germination by nicking the husk (no soak)... interesting to see the 'no nick' being the most successful. I will re-adjust and see how that goes. Thanks.
Rather simple isn’t it? This started from me googling the best method and finding every method different and none of them the simplest. I had to see for myself. Sometimes we complicate things. Thanks for commenting and watching.
Thank You so much for this awesome video! I have moringa growing from cuttings and I also have a whole pod of seeds that I was gonna plant and was confused by all the methods. I will definitely just plant them straight like any other seed. Really appreciated your video! ❤
Now my seeds are OLD, like around 10 years old. I soaked half in the shell and planted. It hasn't been 2 weeks yet so still waiting. I removed the seed from the shell and soaked. So far, I have some mold growing in those pots. Maybe moringa is like hatching chicks or helping a butterfly emerge from the cocoon. If you help them, they will emerge damaged. They need to have the strength to break free. Thanks for sharing your video.
That’s neat thinking Lula. Maybe so! Bakers Creeks Seeds usually has these seeds if you need new ones. I like their seeds. Thanks so much for watching.
Good question, thank you. This will depend on how hot your environment is. I kept them evenly moist. Not soggy. I think one time they dried out on me and they did fine but I was pretty consistent at keeping them moist.
I 'no soak' Moringa. Getting germination is not the problem. Getting the plants to survive the summer is the challenge. Heat waves, tornadoes, Japanese beetles, ground hogs, and falling trees are the things holding my Moringa back. 3rd summer trying and after getting four started I am down to one (this season).
In my initial test I committed a lot of plant murder. I killed quite a few Dwarf Moringa's. But I have one that I have babied. I never seem to keep it perfectly green, it always seems to have a few yellow leaves but it is taller than me and has lived through all the seasons. I gave one to friends and they had it out all winter so it died back but then returned in the spring. So best advice I can give you is to keep it well watered in the summer. Part shade can help. Greenhouse or in the house in freezes. I have had no pests on mine but I don't think we have any Japanese Beetles here. They sound annoying I am sorry. Good luck!
@@trishiadaniel7437 no grow light just sunlight from a window. No heat mat either. Room temperature. I just started a new batch recently outside and they came up with a little bit of morning sun and mostly all shade on the porch. So amount of light seems to have no impact until after germinating.
GARDENING ON THE CHEAP: Use an old heating pad for a heat mat. Use desk lamps with a grow light bulb for a grow light. Need more seeds? I bought a 7 OUNCE bag of moringa seeds at an Indian Market near me for FOUR BUCKS. They all sprout just fine.
I'm waiting for some to germinate now. Thanks for the info, I'm gonna put some more in using the no soak method. I do have a question. Did you moisten the soil during the germination period or just rely on the initial bit at the time of planting?
I continued to water during the germination stage. I think I had to maybe once. But they were germinated inside the house and not in the wind or direct sun. This can impact how much watering you might need to do. If I had done them in the greenhouse, I am sure more watering would be needed. Good luck on your seeds!
Very well done test as to nicked seeds and in soaked seeds etc for germination of this power house plant! Thank you. 😊 I want to grow moringa too, but I don’t have a yard. Do you think I could grow it indoors? I know it’s not a small plant though. Wait! I suddenly thought of asking you this: Does dwarf mean it’s a smaller plant and not a tree like it normally is? Confused.
It is a Dwarf Moringa! They grow smaller than regular Moringa trees 6-8 feet is their size vs 30 feet of a regular Moringa. Still a pretty big indoor plant though! I will have to bring mine inside once the frost hits. It will need a sunny window or some UV lighting. They are not at all frost tolerant. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching.
I saw a comment where someone said they always cut the tree down to 3 foot and it grows back, also it can b E grown indoors and apparently needs to Be mulched well in cold weather , also they said don’t over water, water like a cactus, and it needs a lot of root room. Good luck
I am glad that works for you! On multiple attempts that hasn’t worked for us and if not removing it from the shell works for us I like to stick to the less work option 😁 but I 100% support doing what works for you and brings you joy! Happy gardening.
Wow. I got a 1000 seed bag from Amazon and I did the no soak/no nicked method on 50 seeds that have been going for 16 days now and I have yet to get any results. This is crazy that yours germinated so fast. I have watered them every day, but made sure not to over do it. That’s strange that none of mine have germinated. And my seeds looked healthy.
I am so sorry to hear that. I don’t have a lot of trust in seeds from Amazon but it all depends on your supplier. I have done more batches and continued to have the same results. I think my last batch 1 seed did not germinate. But the success rate has continued to be high. This is how I do them: Direct in soil. Keep them consistently moist. In a window with some sunlight. Inside the house with average temperatures and no heat mat. 14 days they show up. You could try a heat mat to see if it helps maybe. But I didn’t need one.
@@JolleanSmith ok, I hope they are just taking them time. I hope to see something in the next week. Thanks for testing it out in your vid. That was very helpful.
No, I spent some time before planting, researching seed germinating methods and as I began to find so many I reduced it to the most common and just planting them straight up (which wasn't that common). In the end I am glad I did not use their method as it would have been unnecessary time but also might have been interesting to see their success rate. So good question, but in the end I did not.
I just kept them consistently moist but not soggy from day of planting. It will depend how fast your soil dries out in your area as to how often you water. Ad the plant gets bigger it doesn’t like to be overwatered.
@@brentbarajas let me know how you do. I planted a new batch for this spring and I am waiting on them now. Remember to give them at least 15 days and keep them relatively warm. I did not use a heat mat but I would bet that would help germination.
No, these seeds were sprouted in the house near a bright window mostly. I may have placed them in the greenhouse on a warm day for a few hours but that was it. Majority of their time was inside.
Ok so I just filed a video to follow up on mine and I too have the same problem. Spoiler… my theory is overwatering. These are drought tolerant plants that don’t like wet roots. Soil quality makes a difference. Get soil with less peat moss or none.
Great comment Robert. So I had no clue how to grow Moringa from seed. I watched a lot of videos and read up on it. I was amazed by how many ways people said to do it. Nicking the seed was one of them that came up a few times. I know nicking the seed can speed up some germination, but you are right why bother, nature doesn’t require it. But I had no clue, I just like testing stuff out.
@@robertwilkinson8115 I may not always have it straight either but I do try to test what I can to come to a reasonable conclusion. Thanks for watching and commenting. Happy gardening.
Vous pouvez les faire germer maintenant. Je ne vis pas dans un climat où je peux les mettre en terre. Mon Moringa nain vivra dans un pot et devra venir dans la serre l'hiver.
I just got some moringa seeds! The instructions said to soak for 8 to 12 hours. I fell asleep and wound up soaking them for over 12 hours. Hopefully they will terminate. It was only 4 seeds from the pack, I will plant more today and not soak them.
Yea mine said to soak too. It’s not that soaking won’t work, just that it is not necessary based on my test, so my guess is you will be AOK! Hope so. Thanks for commenting.
Le nain Moringa mesure 8 à 10 pieds de haut. Le Moringa ordinaire atteint 30 à 40 pieds de haut. Je ne peux pas planter mon Moringa dans le sol ici dans le Sud, Zone 8b. Mais dans la zone 9 - 11, vous pourriez planter après le dernier gel, je pense. J'espère que cela pourra aider.
I kept them moist. I didn’t allow them to dry out. In the first three months they need good moisture, after that they shift to a more natural water schedule which can have more drying out.
I see thanks so much. If you could help me with one last question. I live in the high Amazon region in Peru. I have some lands at 1900 meter above sea lv. It has a micro climate of 18 degrees c to 25. In your opinion would moringa thrive in this conditions. I can grow coffee, grapes, chirimoya no problem it’s my first try with moringa. Thanks for the help.
@@192lalo I don’t know enough about Peru to give you too much advice. In a quick search, I do see that there is people growing actual Moringa trees (these seeds were for dwarf trees) in the coastal areas of Peru. Looks like a variety called Moringa Oleifera. If you don’t have a freeze your chances are likely good. But if you are subject to frost and freeze your trees will need to be protected. But I would say spend some time with Google researching it and or plant some and give a few a go, to test it out. That is always the best way to tell, it it makes it the year then add more! Hope that helps.
I have watched many videos on planting moranga seeds and to my surprise no one tells you how to water them after you plant the seed :( Do you water them every day, once a week, what's to much and what's not enough?
I just kept them moist. Not soggy, not dry. This will depend on your temperature they are kept in. In a greenhouse it might be everyday. In my case I did it in a low light window with a somewhat humid atmosphere so it was every couple of days. Hope that helps!
Bakers Creek Seeds is where I got mine and they do ship internationally. My trees have not produced seeds yet so hopefully that helps! www.rareseeds.com/moringa-dwarf
Happy that worked! My thing with the soak is that it is an extra step that is not needed. I have to manage my time carefully so I like to go through as few steps as possible. If you have the time to soak and it works, then awesome. Always do what works best for you! Have fun growing them.
@@JolleanSmith I soaked some and planted others unsoaked, and almost all came up in both groups. I didn't nick any. I am still soaking them, since it takes little time or effort. I soak most seeds. I also bought 10 Moringa seeds for $5 from Baker Creek. But the 7 ounces of seeds for $4 from the Indian Market is a real winner.
Tried my luck with Moringa for several years. The seeds grow very fast but the critical point is, when the little trees reach 30-40 cm height. Without any change on the plants in location or watering, the leaves start to have white dots and white sections. The result is, that the tree loose leaves, somehow it looks like it's too dry. It always starts with a portion of leaves then is grows. At the end, the little tree stands without leaves and simple dies. I tried to cut off the splices with white spots, remove entire sections, while the tree grow new branches, it ends in the same result. White spots on the leaves, dry up and fall from the tree. I am in Eeast europe Area, maybe this is the reason. I just don't understand, why it grows so fast and nice, and suddenly start dying. I tried several substrates too. If someone have any hints, i would appreciate it.
That is frustrating! I am no expert but it is possible your tree is getting powdery mildew. I get them on the squash and it can be treated with some dish soap, water and baking soda. I have an older video with the recipe for this. Outside of that as I am not 100% sure that is what it is. I would try growing them in a very controlled environment with no overhead watering. Mine is on its third year, I lost a few along the way but I am certain I killed them with my incessant belief that my plants are always thirsty. They are moody trees. One day I have flowers and leaves the next it is yellow and hates me. 😂
@@JolleanSmith Thank you Jollean. I will try the next batch in a little plant house with proper ventilation. Someone said that Neem Oil could help too. Maybe at least one get's over the critical phase. I guess when they are thicker from the root like a tree, they will be more stable and i can put them outside in the garden.
The quickest way to propagate moringa tree is just cut a branch of one your big moringa tree about 12 inches and stick to the grown in no time it will grow. 😀
We don’t have them wild here BUT that is still very cool to know. Now that I have a dwarf tree alive from seed I will have to test this out in the future. Thanks for your comment!
Haha yes! But I swear every method for germination I could find before I tested this said to nick or soak the seed. If I recall the package did too. Oh well, I love a good test.
PRIMED: When you soak seeds, they respond better at 1 month & 2 month period. Moringa is fragile. It needs to at least make it 2 months as a test. #asiflifeonearthmatters
Yea I did not see any proof of that. All the seeds performed in accordance to their conditions the same. There is nothing in a soak process to strengthen a seed after germination if you are watering correctly.
@@boomdagreatred4070 hey thanks for commenting. In my experiment the 24 hour soak did not equate to faster germination. The no soak seeds actually germinated faster than those soaked by all methods. Thus, making the soaking step of no benefit. I am in the process of testing some Rhubarb seeds and I found the exact same results. By all means do what works for you. Your steps need to bring you joy and peace. Gardening is our own art in a way and not everyone will do it the same.
Thank you for carrying out this experiment. You saved me a lot of time. 🌺
That’s great! Thanks for watching
Thank you so much this is the most clearest and best detailed video of how to germinate morning seeds.👍🏼💫
thanks for your kind words!
I love it. I watched many videos that were not as enlightening as yours. I appreciate that you researched many types of germination and demonstrated them to us. Thank you very much. I had removed my seeds from their shells and was concerned that they were not germinating. I'll attempt the no-soak variant and hopefully get something. Thank you!
Thanks so much for watching, I love a good test and learn. Results can be fascinating.
Great video! I was given 4 Moringa seeds and wanted to know the best way to grow them. I will definitely use the no soak method. Thank you!
Thanks for watching! May they all germinate perfectly!
Hello from NZ it’s Spring here and I’m going to germinate some Moringa seeds. Thanks for the tips!
Hello from across the planet!! I hope it grows well for you. Thanks for being here :)
planted mine about a week ago, many different methods, the fastest was direct sow.. came in faster than the seed tray, bubble dome and heat mat.
Excellent! I just don’t see the need to soak or do anything else when you can just direct sow and win!
@@JolleanSmith I hate seed soaking too, I have lost seeds to it. I know it helps to loosen up shells on most seeds but I found moist soil does the same.
Great job on the scientific evaluation.
Thanks! I love a good test and learn project! Thanks for watching.
Great videos, very much helpful!!
Thank you Sameer for watching and commenting. Happy gardening!🧑🌾
I glanced at a couple of light Moringa videos but this one was short sweet educational and to-the-point thank you so much!!!! 🪴🌱💗
Thank you for your kind comments. It matters and is appreciated. Happy gardening 👩🌾
I was going to plant a few Moringa seeds and found your methods informative. Thank you.
Awesome! So glad it helped. Just germinated a new batch myself with the winning method. It’s been consistent. Thanks for watching.
Great experiment! Thank you for sharing this.
Thanks for commenting and watching Barb!
Thank You for your great information. Have a great Growing Season.
Thanks for watching and commenting John, back at ya!
Good methodology and info. Thanks for making this video.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
Great experiment! Just put some Moringa seeds in water, going now to take them out... Thanks!
It was a good experiment! I was surprised by the result honestly. Thanks for watching.
5:00 interesting, it correspands with your intuition as you said in the beginning you do not soak usually
I hadn't really thought of that. That is interesting. I know many people do though, and one thing I know for sure, I am not always right. Probably more wrong than right in fact. Which is why I love garden experiments like this one. Your comment was thought provoking, thank you!
Hi thank you for this! Just a little more data for you, I recently tried 10 moringa seeds all nicked and none of them germinated (none soaked). That's why I'm looking at moringa seed generation videos! I'm definitely going to try no nick.
That is great info, thanks for sharing. I am not sure why it is so popular to suggest nicking the seed. Good luck on your next round.
@@JolleanSmith So alternatively we can not crack open that outter coating at all, to avoid accidental nicking of the actual seed? Because I'm sure in the process of cracking open that outter coating (as others have recommended) I've nicked more than a few of my precious seeds and maybe that's why they're not sprouting!
@BlueSkySanctuaryBaja so you can do it but what I found was that is was not necessary. Lots of places instruct you to nick the seed but I am all about find the easiest and most effective way. And in this case it was just putting them in the soil as is.
@@JolleanSmith Okay awesome, thanks again, I'm going to try a batch with NO nicking! 👌👌
@@BlueSkySanctuaryBaja best of luck! Let me know how it goes.
Great one!
Thanks kindly for watching!
Super tutorial. Thankyou 🙏
Thanks so much for watching!
Just starting out gathering info. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Going to try the direct sow into regular potting mix method for sure. I am still waiting after 2+ weeks after the soak + nick method so at this point, it's safe to assume nothing is coming out of that! Thank you for your video.
Yea they have pretty consistently appeared for me 12-14 days after planting.
Make sure you keep the next batch evenly moist. In a warm place. I had indirect sun. I did not use a heat mat. Let me know how you make out.
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@@arunmathew6695 so happy to have you here. Thank you.
Very helpful. Thank you.
So glad it helped! Thanks for watching.
I love garden experiments! I have a little ‘greenhouse’ in my spare bathroom (shelves, lights and heat mats) and I’ve been trying seeds with light and heat and without one or the other just to see what works to make things quicker and easier in the future. Simple is good.
It has been cold, I’ve been wondering how your greenhouse was doing. It kept temps in the 70’s? How about our freezing nights we’ve had? I hope you keep us up to date with the moringa, including how to use it. I’ve heard of it, but really don’t know much about it.
It is funny how sometimes we complicate simple procedures that really could be simple. I have some video filmed with a semi update on the video and the cold nights. Spoiler alert, it's not going 100% amazingly well. Not terrible but I actually did better last year in that AOSOM Greenhouse. I am not sure if it is the plastic we have chosen or if it is the change in heating methods. But stay tuned, that video is coming soon. I will definitely share more on the Moringa. I plan to dry it and make smoothies mixes for the farmers market. Long ways away from that, but that is the vision. Hope you are well! Thanks for being here.
thank you for this video. I watched this a little too late because I had perhaps ruined six of my moringa seeds.
Oh no! Well make sure you try again. I kill a lot of plants before I get it right, so try and try again! Happy gardening and thanks for being here.
Interesting experience! Thanks for the video :)
Thanks for watching!
Great video, thanks
Thanks for watching!
nice video,,,, have currently planted some seeds with 50% germination by nicking the husk (no soak)... interesting to see the 'no nick' being the most successful. I will re-adjust and see how that goes. Thanks.
I was surprised myself since a few places recommended the nick. Interesting your findings too! Thanks for watching.
interesting best method
Rather simple isn’t it? This started from me googling the best method and finding every method different and none of them the simplest. I had to see for myself. Sometimes we complicate things. Thanks for commenting and watching.
thank you! That was so helpful. much appreciated :-)
Wonderful! Glad it helped!
Nice mam thank you 🙏
Hope it was helpful. Thanks for watching.
Thank You so much for this awesome video! I have moringa growing from cuttings and I also have a whole pod of seeds that I was gonna plant and was confused by all the methods. I will definitely just plant them straight like any other seed. Really appreciated your video! ❤
Thank you Candy, I really appreciate your comment. I hope it is nothing but success for you. Thanks for commenting ❤
Thank you for this video!
Thanks for watching and commenting! 😊
Now my seeds are OLD, like around 10 years old. I soaked half in the shell and planted. It hasn't been 2 weeks yet so still waiting. I removed the seed from the shell and soaked. So far, I have some mold growing in those pots. Maybe moringa is like hatching chicks or helping a butterfly emerge from the cocoon. If you help them, they will emerge damaged. They need to have the strength to break free. Thanks for sharing your video.
That’s neat thinking Lula. Maybe so! Bakers Creeks Seeds usually has these seeds if you need new ones. I like their seeds. Thanks so much for watching.
Great experiment to share, thanks! Can you advise how often you water them while you're waiting for them to sprout? Thanks again :)
Good question, thank you. This will depend on how hot your environment is. I kept them evenly moist. Not soggy. I think one time they dried out on me and they did fine but I was pretty consistent at keeping them moist.
@@JolleanSmith Okay great, good to know, thanks again!
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Thanks for watching Tameka! Happy gardening
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They look great!
Definitely looking promising!
I 'no soak' Moringa. Getting germination is not the problem. Getting the plants to survive the summer is the challenge. Heat waves, tornadoes, Japanese beetles, ground hogs, and falling trees are the things holding my Moringa back. 3rd summer trying and after getting four started I am down to one (this season).
In my initial test I committed a lot of plant murder. I killed quite a few Dwarf Moringa's. But I have one that I have babied. I never seem to keep it perfectly green, it always seems to have a few yellow leaves but it is taller than me and has lived through all the seasons. I gave one to friends and they had it out all winter so it died back but then returned in the spring. So best advice I can give you is to keep it well watered in the summer. Part shade can help. Greenhouse or in the house in freezes. I have had no pests on mine but I don't think we have any Japanese Beetles here. They sound annoying I am sorry. Good luck!
@@JolleanSmith Japanese beetles are horrible. They wrecked my passion fruit too
So annoying sorry! I am sure they will come to my place one day too. Invasive bugs seem to thrive.
Did you keep the seed trays indoors under a grow light before until they germinated?
@@trishiadaniel7437 no grow light just sunlight from a window. No heat mat either. Room temperature. I just started a new batch recently outside and they came up with a little bit of morning sun and mostly all shade on the porch. So amount of light seems to have no impact until after germinating.
I’ve got some older moringa seeds I need to plant! I want to grow some for my animals and me!
They have a lot of health benefits. But treat the plant like a tropical. It will have to be babied.
GARDENING ON THE CHEAP: Use an old heating pad for a heat mat. Use desk lamps with a grow light bulb for a grow light. Need more seeds? I bought a 7 OUNCE bag of moringa seeds at an Indian Market near me for FOUR BUCKS. They all sprout just fine.
I'm waiting for some to germinate now. Thanks for the info, I'm gonna put some more in using the no soak method. I do have a question. Did you moisten the soil during the germination period or just rely on the initial bit at the time of planting?
I continued to water during the germination stage. I think I had to maybe once. But they were germinated inside the house and not in the wind or direct sun. This can impact how much watering you might need to do. If I had done them in the greenhouse, I am sure more watering would be needed. Good luck on your seeds!
@Jollean Smith thank you very much. I have been through many videos on this subject. Yours brought me what i needed.
Very well done test as to nicked seeds and in soaked seeds etc for germination of this power house plant! Thank you. 😊 I want to grow moringa too, but I don’t have a yard. Do you think I could grow it indoors? I know it’s not a small plant though. Wait! I suddenly thought of asking you this: Does dwarf mean it’s a smaller plant and not a tree like it normally is? Confused.
It is a Dwarf Moringa! They grow smaller than regular Moringa trees 6-8 feet is their size vs 30 feet of a regular Moringa. Still a pretty big indoor plant though! I will have to bring mine inside once the frost hits. It will need a sunny window or some UV lighting. They are not at all frost tolerant. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching.
@@JolleanSmith Yes of course your reply helped. Thanks so much.😊
I saw a comment where someone said they always cut the tree down to 3 foot and it grows back, also it can b
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Be mulched well in cold weather , also they said don’t over water, water like a cactus, and it needs a lot of root room. Good luck
I have tried several methods and so far the best one was to remove the seed from the shell and put directly into potting mix
I am glad that works for you! On multiple attempts that hasn’t worked for us and if not removing it from the shell works for us I like to stick to the less work option 😁 but I 100% support doing what works for you and brings you joy! Happy gardening.
Wow. I got a 1000 seed bag from Amazon and I did the no soak/no nicked method on 50 seeds that have been going for 16 days now and I have yet to get any results. This is crazy that yours germinated so fast. I have watered them every day, but made sure not to over do it. That’s strange that none of mine have germinated. And my seeds looked healthy.
I am so sorry to hear that. I don’t have a lot of trust in seeds from Amazon but it all depends on your supplier. I have done more batches and continued to have the same results. I think my last batch 1 seed did not germinate. But the success rate has continued to be high.
This is how I do them:
Direct in soil.
Keep them consistently moist.
In a window with some sunlight.
Inside the house with average temperatures and no heat mat.
14 days they show up.
You could try a heat mat to see if it helps maybe. But I didn’t need one.
@@JolleanSmith ok, I hope they are just taking them time. I hope to see something in the next week. Thanks for testing it out in your vid. That was very helpful.
@@JolleanSmith great news 1 popped out this morning! 😂 hope is still alive!!!
@@TriggaTreDay right on and thank goodness!!
Thank you for this video!!!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Do you have an update on your moringa trees?
Yes I have a video coming out soon! I have had some additional learnings to share.
Do they need a heat mat during germination? I wondering if I can just have them on my kitchen table with no extra heat.
I definitely did not use one. We don’t live in a cold climate though. But I would say in average temperatures you should be fine.
@@JolleanSmith thank you! I'll try it.
Did you ever try what they say or the baker creek moringa packet, soak 2 - 3 days in warm water?
No, I spent some time before planting, researching seed germinating methods and as I began to find so many I reduced it to the most common and just planting them straight up (which wasn't that common). In the end I am glad I did not use their method as it would have been unnecessary time but also might have been interesting to see their success rate. So good question, but in the end I did not.
How often did you water the seeds prior to sprouting your Moringa? Tia
I didn’t have a tracked watering schedule but I kept them moist (not soggy) and they didn’t dry out. Hope that helps a bit.
What day did you water and how much?
I just kept them consistently moist but not soggy from day of planting. It will depend how fast your soil dries out in your area as to how often you water. Ad the plant gets bigger it doesn’t like to be overwatered.
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When you did the no soak you moistened the soil beforehand obviously, but did you water at all after you planted the seeds?
Yes absolutely. I watered after planting and as the soil dried. It was kept moist.
@Jollean Smith perfect thank you, I just planted some today.
@@brentbarajas let me know how you do. I planted a new batch for this spring and I am waiting on them now. Remember to give them at least 15 days and keep them relatively warm. I did not use a heat mat but I would bet that would help germination.
@@JolleanSmith will do!
So you planted your seeds under your greenhouse, that is important to know, thanks.
No, these seeds were sprouted in the house near a bright window mostly. I may have placed them in the greenhouse on a warm day for a few hours but that was it. Majority of their time was inside.
i wonder if i am overwatering or too dry when just before the leaves starts to grow it becomes yellow.
Ok so I just filed a video to follow up on mine and I too have the same problem. Spoiler… my theory is overwatering. These are drought tolerant plants that don’t like wet roots. Soil quality makes a difference. Get soil with less peat moss or none.
So was the No Soak seed also No Nick? Just seed right in the soil? It wasn't real clear.
Correct. Only one set of seeds was nicked. It essentially tells us just to do it like a seed would fall in the forest. No need to mess with anything.
How are the seeds nicked, soaked and buried in nature? Why would you think that would help germination?
Great comment Robert. So I had no clue how to grow Moringa from seed. I watched a lot of videos and read up on it. I was amazed by how many ways people said to do it. Nicking the seed was one of them that came up a few times. I know nicking the seed can speed up some germination, but you are right why bother, nature doesn’t require it. But I had no clue, I just like testing stuff out.
@@JolleanSmith So much really bad information on the internet ... Thank you for setting people straight!
@@robertwilkinson8115 I may not always have it straight either but I do try to test what I can to come to a reasonable conclusion. Thanks for watching and commenting. Happy gardening.
@@JolleanSmith Trust God and watch how He does things.
Oooh merci beaucoup. On peut mettre à germer maintenant ? Et quand doit on les mettre en terre? Merci de me lire
Vous pouvez les faire germer maintenant. Je ne vis pas dans un climat où je peux les mettre en terre. Mon Moringa nain vivra dans un pot et devra venir dans la serre l'hiver.
How often so you water once they sprout?
How often will depend on how fast your soil dries out. I just tried to keep them moist. Never soggy and not dried out.
I just got some moringa seeds! The instructions said to soak for 8 to 12 hours. I fell asleep and wound up soaking them for over 12 hours. Hopefully they will terminate. It was only 4 seeds from the pack, I will plant more today and not soak them.
Yea mine said to soak too. It’s not that soaking won’t work, just that it is not necessary based on my test, so my guess is you will be AOK! Hope so. Thanks for commenting.
Hi there please can u tell me where to get the seeds
You bet, here is the link www.rareseeds.com/moringa-dwarf
Bonjour, à partir de quand pouvons nous le mettre en terre une fois qu’il a germé ? Quelle est la hauteur du moringa? Merci
Le nain Moringa mesure 8 à 10 pieds de haut. Le Moringa ordinaire atteint 30 à 40 pieds de haut. Je ne peux pas planter mon Moringa dans le sol ici dans le Sud, Zone 8b. Mais dans la zone 9 - 11, vous pourriez planter après le dernier gel, je pense. J'espère que cela pourra aider.
@@JolleanSmith merci infiniment
How much water do you give the seeds. From day 1 to 13
I kept them moist. I didn’t allow them to dry out. In the first three months they need good moisture, after that they shift to a more natural water schedule which can have more drying out.
I see thanks so much. If you could help me with one last question. I live in the high Amazon region in Peru. I have some lands at 1900 meter above sea lv. It has a micro climate of 18 degrees c to 25. In your opinion would moringa thrive in this conditions. I can grow coffee, grapes, chirimoya no problem it’s my first try with moringa. Thanks for the help.
@@192lalo I don’t know enough about Peru to give you too much advice. In a quick search, I do see that there is people growing actual Moringa trees (these seeds were for dwarf trees) in the coastal areas of Peru. Looks like a variety called Moringa Oleifera. If you don’t have a freeze your chances are likely good. But if you are subject to frost and freeze your trees will need to be protected. But I would say spend some time with Google researching it and or plant some and give a few a go, to test it out. That is always the best way to tell, it it makes it the year then add more! Hope that helps.
You didnt peel the "no soak"?
If your seed had a paper wrap to it then that I would peel but the hard layer of the seed I did not peel off in the no soak. Hope that helps.
I have watched many videos on planting moranga seeds and to my surprise no one tells you how to water them after you plant the seed
:( Do you water them every day, once a week, what's to much and what's not enough?
I just kept them moist. Not soggy, not dry. This will depend on your temperature they are kept in. In a greenhouse it might be everyday. In my case I did it in a low light window with a somewhat humid atmosphere so it was every couple of days. Hope that helps!
Hallo Jollean.
Ich würde sehr gern bei dir Moringa Samen bestellen.ist das möglich
Bakers Creek Seeds is where I got mine and they do ship internationally. My trees have not produced seeds yet so hopefully that helps! www.rareseeds.com/moringa-dwarf
@@JolleanSmith danke dir
very helpful!
Thanks for watching Joan!
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I soaked seeds about 24 hours. Nearly all spouted when planted indoors. Simple.
Happy that worked! My thing with the soak is that it is an extra step that is not needed. I have to manage my time carefully so I like to go through as few steps as possible. If you have the time to soak and it works, then awesome. Always do what works best for you! Have fun growing them.
@@JolleanSmith I soaked some and planted others unsoaked, and almost all came up in both groups. I didn't nick any. I am still soaking them, since it takes little time or effort. I soak most seeds. I also bought 10 Moringa seeds for $5 from Baker Creek. But the 7 ounces of seeds for $4 from the Indian Market is a real winner.
Tried my luck with Moringa for several years. The seeds grow very fast but the critical point is, when the little trees reach 30-40 cm height. Without any change on the plants in location or watering, the leaves start to have white dots and white sections. The result is, that the tree loose leaves, somehow it looks like it's too dry. It always starts with a portion of leaves then is grows. At the end, the little tree stands without leaves and simple dies. I tried to cut off the splices with white spots, remove entire sections, while the tree grow new branches, it ends in the same result. White spots on the leaves, dry up and fall from the tree. I am in Eeast europe Area, maybe this is the reason. I just don't understand, why it grows so fast and nice, and suddenly start dying. I tried several substrates too.
If someone have any hints, i would appreciate it.
That is frustrating! I am no expert but it is possible your tree is getting powdery mildew. I get them on the squash and it can be treated with some dish soap, water and baking soda. I have an older video with the recipe for this.
Outside of that as I am not 100% sure that is what it is. I would try growing them in a very controlled environment with no overhead watering.
Mine is on its third year, I lost a few along the way but I am certain I killed them with my incessant belief that my plants are always thirsty.
They are moody trees. One day I have flowers and leaves the next it is yellow and hates me. 😂
@@JolleanSmith Thank you Jollean. I will try the next batch in a little plant house with proper ventilation. Someone said that Neem Oil could help too. Maybe at least one get's over the critical phase. I guess when they are thicker from the root like a tree, they will be more stable and i can put them outside in the garden.
@@janvollgod7221 yea when they get tougher they can die back and come back from the ground. My tree has been bald once or twice.
Lets all have a moment's silence for the nicked seed. 🙏
Yes and all the plants I have murdered 😂
The quickest way to propagate moringa tree is just cut a branch of one your big moringa tree about 12 inches and stick to the grown in no time it will grow. 😀
We don’t have them wild here BUT that is still very cool to know. Now that I have a dwarf tree alive from seed I will have to test this out in the future. Thanks for your comment!
I didn’t have a tree.
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So let me get this straight…you just leave it the way nature intended and it works better than manipulation. Shocker 😂
Haha yes! But I swear every method for germination I could find before I tested this said to nick or soak the seed. If I recall the package did too. Oh well, I love a good test.
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PRIMED: When you soak seeds, they respond better at 1 month & 2 month period. Moringa is fragile. It needs to at least make it 2 months as a test.
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Yea I did not see any proof of that. All the seeds performed in accordance to their conditions the same. There is nothing in a soak process to strengthen a seed after germination if you are watering correctly.
time management! soaking takes 24 hours = 1 day , seeds sprouted after 5 days.
@@boomdagreatred4070 hey thanks for commenting. In my experiment the 24 hour soak did not equate to faster germination. The no soak seeds actually germinated faster than those soaked by all methods. Thus, making the soaking step of no benefit. I am in the process of testing some Rhubarb seeds and I found the exact same results. By all means do what works for you. Your steps need to bring you joy and peace. Gardening is our own art in a way and not everyone will do it the same.
So much verbal garbage. Just show us.
So sorry to disappoint! Wish you well.
I found this very interesting
I hope you are ok Nancy x
very helpful to see, thnkyou for sharing ;)
So glad we could help! Thank you for watching and happy planting!