Does a Floyd Rose Brass Sustain Block Give You More Tone and Sustain?
Вставка
- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- Does a Floyd Rose Brass Sustain Block Give You More Tone and Sustain? Well I wanted to find out, more importantly I wanted to see if it was worth the hassle of taking my EVH Guitars trem apart and putting it back together again. I can hear a difference, not much but there is some difference but was it worth 2.5 hours of taking the Floyd Rose apart and resetting up the guitar?
WEB: www.davebarlowg...
FACEBOOK: / davebarlowguitar
TWITTER: / barlowbands
#davebarlowguitar
You should have capture the sound waves before replacing the block, and then after replacing it capture the waves again, and then finally compare how the sustain is changed. This way you can visualize the change of each tone and chord in terms of the length and strength.
FYI - Hot tip: If you like the intonation your guitar currently has....and don't look forward to setting it up from scratch.....use a dial caliper (I have a plastic one I use for instruments) and take a measurement of where the saddles currently are, and then just put them precisely (as closely has possible) back to where they were before doing a block swap. You'll find that you didn't loose your setup and that the instrument only needs a minor tweak (if that) to be intonated correctly again.
I've done complete body transplants (MIJ '67 Strat) and did this with the tremolo claw screws as well, and the set up and intonation was absolutely spot on. I was shocked....it worked perfectly and the setup was exactly the same & guitar had the same feel. This totally speeds up this kind of work, and makes it less of a hassle.
Great tip :)
My dogs raised their ears 1/2 inch higher when they heard the brass block, so it must be better. (The hard part was getting them to hold still while I measured.) The Australian shepherd indicated that she could hear more "complexity" in the 2-4kHz range. (She's damn smart.)
One thing I noticed - you were upgrading a true floyd, which had a decent block to begin with. I will be upgrading a knockoff floyd that has a very cheap, cast, pot metal block. I hear an encouraging change in your test, and hope even bigger improvement with mine.
I upgraded the block on my peavey Wolfgang to a brass block... only cost $40. Didn't notice any change in tone, but did give me a couple seconds more of sustain and noticed all the strings rang out more evenly. Some used to be quieter or sustain much less than others. Not sure if the speedy titanium is worth the extra price though. I saw a youtube where titanium didn't perform any better than the brass but you always have to be a little suspect of anything on the internet.
Brass was 2 or 3 times heavier too.
Exactly. He already had a steel block. There's a huge difference between brass and the thin pot metal blocks that come on a knock off or a Mex strat type trem.
@@user-qr7ee2cp4y Titanium is nowhere near as dense as brass, steel, or even the factory zinc blocks. Denser metals means more sound reflection back to the strings and away from the springs/claw/claw screws, where you do not get it back. Idk how the fuck people fall for this snake oil gimmick with titanium parts... Sure, titanium is STRONGER, but it's nowhere fucking near as dense... Pure snake oil. Brass parts are definitely the way to go in regards to more sustain. Steel is also fine. The cheap plastic shit and shitty, low quality stock parts are really the biggest tone and sustain vampires. Just replacing cheap nuts and saddles is really enough to cause a world of difference. Titanium isn't any better than the cheap shit... It's just expensive cheap shit
@@ragnaroksangel real premium is 200-300$ tungsten block :)
Ive seen other demo videos where they replace brass block, brass spring claw, titanium saddle inserts, etc - and just acoustically there's a massive difference. Considering that all of the parts that I mentioned are relatively inexpensive I plan on doing it.
When I did this modification to my ESP strat, i popped the shim off the bottom side of the floyd (tone sucker), and stuck a brass block one size bigger than the stock zinc block (cant screw the trem cover on and it's exposed, but don't matter to me), i couldn't believe how more resonant the guitar was, the tone was warmer, fatter, and it felt as if the whole guitar just was different. Made me feel like i was hitting a big chord on a les paul. Never went back to the stocked crap, stuck on FUtone's product!
Before I upgraded my trem block I contacted Floyd Rose's official customer support and they say it's best not to remove the shim because it could cause intonation issues. Not sure how, but if they say it, i'll trust it. It's there for a reason, an upgraded block definitely makes a difference, removing the shim likely doesn't do anything tone wise.
I have an original Schaller made (Kramer distro) Floyd Rose from 1983. I replaced the regular block with an FU-Tone BIG Brass Block and yes, it is quite a bit better. For those that say there is no difference; trust me on this... you feel it more than you hear it...
It's literally night and day. The first time I replaced mine I couldn't believe there was a that much of a difference but it is quite obvious. Going from that old block material to brass is a huge change tonally.
Fret Friend UK feel,, that mean sustain is better, thats what it is supposed to accomplish
The brass block seemed to give the tone a little more complexity and, noticably wake it up some.
Gotta say I hear a definite difference in my brass block upgrade on my FR Special my ESP has.
Definitely increases sustain and actually improved the tone a bit which was a welcome surprise. I think some people expect way too much from them and could be why they get disappointed but it was definitely an improvement. Not a large one, but it was there.
Doesn't change sound in your tone. Strings and pickups do. But not the bridge / floyd rose.
Sustaine / feel is not same as tone
Dan Adrian ..defo much more sustain .. i do hear a slight improvement in tone .. but like you say as long as expectations are managed and your modding a good guitar ...all good
@@elguitarTom I can’t speak for sustainer blocks, but if you have the same guitar, the same strings and the same pickups but one is a hard tail and the other is a Floyd rose there is a significant change in resonance.
Does it? (Spending as I will say below) Yes! Yes it does, and even gets better when you change out the nut to brass. I have never done it on a floyd rose and never really had a problem with sustain on any of my guitars with a Floyd. But I put together a Fender type style guitar that had a cheap aluminum style Fender bridge that was seriously twangy. I always test a guitars sustain on a Queensryche song called "Anybody Listening" The sustain time there will put any guitar to the test of letting those note ring out. So I upgraded the bridge to a more of a PRS style trem with a Brass block and switched the nut as well to brass. Yeah the tone changed for the better and the guitar has 0 problems holding those notes now. So it really depends on how good your guitar was to begin with. Is it worth the time to make your guitar sound better? For me, Always!
Hey brother another comment from Tennessee.I did the same upgrade to my strat and it made a big difference.I guess it depends on what kind of trem you do it on.keep up the good work and love watching your videos.its the highlight of my day brother.keep rocking
Very noticeable! The tone actually sounds sweeter. More sustain! If you're a fan of the studio giants' of the 80s, like Steve Lukather, Michael Landau, Dan Huff, and Paul Jackson Jr., then it will make that much of a difference between the big brass block versus the original sustain block. All these players I mentioned used the older Floyd Rose's from the 80s. It's part of how they got that incredible sound and sustain on the notes. Particularly when it comes to that Tri stereo chorus sound we all love. Dann Huff refers to his clean sound as jangle. Sadly he has removed the Floyd Rose from his favorite Strat and went to something a little bit more simplified. Now he uses a Wilkinson Bridge with locking tuners on the headstock. But if you want that sound from the 80s like they achieved then this is your sustain block.
It sounds like it added more mids and top end but the note clarity suffered some
It had more sustain. Count the seconds from when he strikes the last chord to when you can no longer hear anything
Dave makes the best videos for guitar players. Brutally honest and to the point!
Thanks dude :)
i may be wrong but i am pretty sure. its been a long time over 20 years since i owned a guitar with a floyd rose. But you should be able to remove the clamps as you call them and the screws that hold them down and the saddles will fold upwards on a hinge pin it has in it and that would let you remove the block without screwing your intonation up. But i may be wrong and this video is 5 years old now so who knows if this will reach you haha.
A proper honest review. Appreciate it Dave cheers
With a good pair of headphones you can definitely hear an extended range of frequencies reproduced both in the bass and in the treble
I just received the Floyd Rose Special. And for whatever reason it came with a Brass block. Trying to find out why. Guess it's good news though.
I put big brass blocks on my Floyd guitars (esp sv and caparison Dellinger) and it made a noticeable difference. Also blocked them to dive only with a piece of maple. Worth it.
OMG The amount of people here saying there is a huge difference. No there isn't. There is not much difference in the FLOYD ROSE tone block change because it is DIFFERENT than a standard trem like in a fender. The biggest difference is the strings do not pass through the block like on a fender they are clamped in the saddle with a STEEL clamp. It's not that hard, if the string passes through something then that will make a difference in tone, its why a telecaster sounds like a telecaster and not a goddamn stratocaster.
Now here is how you think of it in your mind to know what upgrades to do. We will compare the tele and strat.
What makes the tele sound unique? When compared to the strat we can see both comes with the same type of neck profile and wood and fretboard so thats not it, we can see both use alder bodies cut at 1.75 inches thick so thats not it, both use the same tuners and pots and caps so thats not it, does one have strings pass through a metal block while the other passes through the body? You bet your sweet ass it does. So in a strat you would upgrade the block, possibly the saddles too because the strings are in physical contact with it. In a tele you would upgrade just the saddles since they are in physical contact with it and since you can't really do anything about the alder body.
You don't upgrade the block on the Floyd because the only way for the sound to resonate through that block is acoustically and will not transfer through an electrically controlled signal because electricity doesn't work that way. The block on a floyd does one thing and thats hold the springs and that is it. For a floyd things you can upgrade that will make a difference are the springs (if its a cheap floyd) and the saddle itself if they are made cheaply (if they are steel and you can stick a magnet to them then leave them on it) and finally the locking blocks for the nut, again only if they are cheap.
For those who are thinking they have a 'Floyd Rose Special' and so its worth while you would be mistaken. I have an OFR and I have a special, both operate and sound the same, the only real difference was cheap locking blocks on the nut of the special, cheap clamping block in the saddles and cheap springs. Thats it, after upgrading those few small parts it was the same as the OFR and had no difference between the two.
Its sort of like the whole craze that happened with roller type saddles. First you notice bends are easier and it feels smoother, but what does it cost? Dead as shit sounding strings is what it costs because the strings are now floating over a pin the roller is sitting on and is no longer in contact with the actual bridge. To have a sound resonate through something and have the signal pick it up they have to contact the strings. A roller bridge just sounds like dead shit and nothing else, and now you know the reason why in an age where roller saddles are an option most signature models and custom models just will not have them, instead they opt for a graphtech low friction option with a graphtech or tusqu nut. Jesus even the JPX doesn't sport anything other than a standard trem with graphtech saddles and nut because they know the only way for that block to matter is to have the strings pass through it and thats why people like John Petrucci will not use a floyd even thought he floats the bridge. He wants his block material to make a difference and in a standard fender style trem it does that.
There simply is no magic substitute for practicing and getting better at working on the tone and how you play and fret a note.
Some good points here :)
A whole lot written here for not having tried it yourself. I've done the upgrade on my FR Special, and there was quite a noticeable difference. You've completely failed to understand how the physical connection to the bridge will still transfer vibration and therefore effect sustain, regardless of whether the strings are passing through the block. This is bizarre considering your comments about upgrading springs. The springs won't matter if they aren't carrying any vibration, and they aren't going to get any unless it's coming through the block. I can physically feel the extra vibration when I touch the body of my guitar.
But, what do I know? I only played the same guitar for 20 years before I switched the block out. I'm sure I'm just not familiar enough with how my guitar used to sound, right?
@@simpleanswer8954 Where did I say I never tried it? I build guitars so yeah installing a floyd is not that hard as I have to do a whole lot more routing to fit one than most others. I've played for 25+ years as well and I went chasing the same thing and if a guitar is built right it is a lot more forgiving than one not. Acoustically it will make a difference any other difference that may play a part if any is so minimal it don't really matter.
The springs matter because its how well they are heat treated that causes them to be decent or not. If they are cheap springs they will loose elasticity quickly. The saddles play a much larger role in that.
It's not unusual for a body to vibrate on a guitar what is unusual would be to hear the transference of that through a electrical magnetic field. A Peizo would make those important but regular pickups not so much.
I got my information on building guitars from Paul Reed Smith and a couple tips on tinkering from Rex Brown. Between the two I am sure they aren't just helping me build guitars that will come out crappy.
I really don't understand why a personal opinion is offensive. If your block upgrade makes you feel better about it then go for it. I was leaving a comment for anyone who may consider the upgrade and then get mad when it doesn't magically make them Steve Vai. Thats it. Since you've already purchased one and installed it then it would be a mute point, I don't think they matter that much but you do. It was just stating its not as drastic of a change as people claim it is and my first sentence I said that.
@@evilcowboy You literally don't know what you're talking about. Your argument about the strings not passing through the block is absolute nonsense. If that were the case, the wood of the body wouldn't matter either. You don't understand the basic physics of how the sound is carried through the guitar, or how the extra vibration of the instrument aids the string vibration, which in turn IS picked up by your electronics.
You don't understand why someone is offended? How about I'm just astounded at how stupid you sound while being so sure of your incorrect 'knowledge' You don't even know shit about the Floyd Rose. You claim there is no difference. The special has Zinc saddles and a Zinc nut, instead of hardened steel like the original. You already said the string saddles make a difference, so that's a big oops on your part.
You want to warn people this won't turn them in to Steve Vai? How noble of you. I'm warning people that you literally don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You don't understand the manufacture of parts you try to tell them not to buy, and you don't have a clue about the rudimentary physics of how vibration effects sounds. You should be doing nothing but apologizing... unless your goal is actually to look like an uninformed asshole.
Yeah....I agree... If you have the original Brass block... (Like what was in Yours). I wouldn't bother swapping them out to the Big Brass block...
But...if you had a Floyd Rose Special.... With the Zink block... Then it's a Noticable Difference..
Now I mostly get Floyd Rose Special series. And buy the 1000 series block and saddles... And that makes a decent Tone
Mine did not have a brass block originaly
The density... and the amount of material is key. But doing it? Is it worth it? Absolutely
The trouble of even changing strings seems to much to do for some. Is the juice worth the squeeze? All my guitars have them. FU tone all the way
Agree with the other comments, more bite to the upgraded trem. Quite noticeable on first listen.
I made tiny scratches on the floyd plate so I knew they would be pretty close. Worked good for me. Can't say I noticed a difference. I have it in a jackson dinky js34q. I also have a jackson king v and that's got the stock block. Both guitars have emg 81s. The v sounds better to me. Not because of the block but I think its the body and neck. Maple neck vs whatever wanna be rose wood they use
Nice video Dave. You could notice it more on the clean than dirty. But you'd probably find the upgrade more noticeable on a cheaper bridge than a Floyd Rose. BTW Like the Airbourne in the back there!
Coming from a Floyd rose special, there was a significant difference
no measurable results. and I AM A SPECIALIST
Normal Block Dity 11:29
Brass Block Dity 12:16
Brass Block has more anger so to speak.
There's a definite perceived increase in sustain with the brass block,- not sure what I'd do with that extra bit though!
That's the crucial question. How much sustain is more than you need? More is often not even necessary.
You could learn to play this: ua-cam.com/video/vkUpfw4Hf3w/v-deo.html
I agree with you I wouldn't take a guitar apart to add one, but I I were building one, I woulds consider adding it. But I don't think they are worth the price.
Definitely sounds better & clearer, more sound, and the notes ring out better and alot longer 🤘👍
For me it was totally worth swapping out.. The original one in my 30 yo Ibanez was starting to break up so I had one machined up out of brass.. Can't say I can really & truly notice a difference in sound but I might mill a bit of the meat off it soon as it's made the guitar noticeably heavier to hold!
My custom JEM I made is by FAR the heaviest fucking guitar I've ever held. I went all out head to toe on the best stuff I could buy... Pricetag ended up being over $5,000. I built it from scratch and all those nice, high end parts added a ridiculous amount of weight. It literally feels twice as heavy as my previous RG. As heavy as it is, I wouldn't trade it for anything, and I don't regret any of the parts. It feels, plays, sounds, and looks incredible.
@@ragnaroksangel I like the lightness of an Ibanez compared to a chunky Les Paul etc.. The main thing is to be happy with your axe so good job! I've just recently bought an Indonesian made Epiphone Les Paul Special VE as a second guitar, it's real light, 3kgs & although I'm still tweaking the setup I really like how it feels to play comin' from mainly playing Ibanez's.
So the one thing I would say about your video is the brass blocks are a definite improvement on the right guitar. you had a good Floyd Rose to begin with. The block you took off was a steel block. Those are also upgrades. A lot of guitars that are Asian imports have pot metal blocks that can be weak sounding. Solid steal and brass both increase tone and sustain. I have two strats the I put steel blocks in and the difference was more solid sounding and my Texas specials came to life. I have another guitar a Harley Benton that I picked up for practically nothing that has a pot metal block that will be replaced next week along with F.U. Tone springs. Brass and solid steel have more sustain then pot metal. Brass has warmer tone steel has brighter tone. On my studio monitors I heard a slight difference in tone on your guitar but you are correct. if you have a solid block on your Floyd there is no reason to change. If you have a crappy cheap block then you should upgrade.
They're Both Brass Blocks.. the original..on a 1000 series..or Floyd Rose original is Brass. With a sortta nickel plating...
The thicker Heavy Tone blocks. Both thick.. and "L" shaped ..are better.. but..it's all to transfer String vibration to the body ..so. the only points on a floating Trem that transfer vibration are the two pivot point on mounting studs. And the Springs. So,. I use thicker screws (useally neck mounting screws) into the claw in back... And I used all 5 springs . While downtuning two steps. To D . Or even D flat standard.. that way I can bend the E or B strings up three whole steps without losing tune tention on the other strings during bends..
.and the five springs Definitely transfer more String vibration to the body .. and yes.. the big block helps..
But....mind you. I rebuild Floyd Rose trem's all the time.. lol. Really I've built..and rebuilt.. about 10 of them
Some company said they were gonna send a new version made of stone or something, they must have bottled out.
@@DaveBarlowGuitar they do make a stone block.. not sure Floyd Rose themselves offer it...or an aftermarket brand like Floyd upgrades?
Sounds like from going from regular pickups to EMG pickups. There's more compression/sustain.
I think the brass added more sustain, but lost some high end in tone.
Oversized steel blocks also give more sustain, and also supposed to
Give more top end to your tone. Someone mentioned titanium, can't
See how that would improve sustain. Titanium is very light. More mass
More sustain.
From what i read it is because titanium is more dense material.
I think it was worth the effort Dave. The brass block (to my ears) had a tonal improvement .. fuller sounding and more bottom end perhaps.
for sure there is a difference in tone and sustain..will get one for my fr original.. thnx mate
it means a lot for tone freaks, i like it...Even made super fat lol 15mm thick block and L shape ☺ you can bay in on line but you have to give it to some friend who have machines to cut you super large....Now i have Stone block and is crazy that one you notice immediately like 20-30% sustain jumps up....
Well for those who obsess over tonewoods and wood species their guitar bodies are made of .....its more prudent to invest in a big brass or stainless steel block first, before even try to go there....
Tone wood is not a fucking thing. Period. *PERIOD*
Repeat after me: tone wood is not a fucking. It has absolutely FUCK ALL to do with sound, tone, sustain, ANY of that shit on an electric guitar. ZERO. NONE. ZILCH.
@@ragnaroksangel Lol...your are preaching to the choir dude.
I got that Block, titanium inserts, Graph Tech Saddles, titanium claw, all titanium bolts/screws and heavy duty noiseless springs for my Jackson Soloist. Still waiting for some of the parts to arrive. I actually think i may order titanium saddles and a titanium nut next month too. Then just put the Graph Tech saddles on my Kramer.
Update? What was the difference after all the parts?
Btw, titanium is half as dense as brass. Your original steel, even if it was cheap steel, was denser and better in regards to sustain. Titanium is stronger, not denser.
@@ragnaroksangel That's probably why all the titanium parts are always sold out and hard to get right.
titanium string blocks helped mine alot as well.
thumbs up for Airbourne in the background
Thank you for your video. Good information. Your hard work is appreciated.
I really thought it was all bulldust.
Byt
It noticebly improved everything.
To me it was night and day.
Yes, more robust low end (listen to the two strums at 10:30 and 11:00, for example), which like turning up the bass on an amp, results in mids and highs being a bit less present. I don't think "clarity" is improved (not that anyone said it would be, or that it needed to be). Sustain is better, yes.
You have good ears :)
I did think it improved the sustain and smoothed out the harshness.
sounds better to me, hard to nail it, but sonically, sort of like the difference between looking at a 2D image next to a 3D image, if that makes any sense, same picture, but more dimension
Stock block sounds good but compared to the brass block it sounds muffled "slightly" .... The brass block definitely has a bit more chime in the ring of the strings..... Nice!
I improved a Floyd Rose Special with an FU brass block and hardened steel real Floyd saddles. Made all the difference.
I not liking my EVH at the moment, just cant get it to sound how I expected.
@@DaveBarlowGuitar Does it have the Zinc saddles? If it does then that is an area to address. Not only will the steel be of higher quality and of a denser nature, but the inevitable slippage of strings will also be addressed. In time zinc blocks just give up and start letting the strings just fly out as their soft nature begins to show. If they are hardened then I guess it's pick up time.
i replaced the block on two guitars. first being a $200 YAMAHA PACIFICA modded with emg pickups,graphite nut, spertzel tuners and a babicz bridge. the other is a schecter sun valley super shredder III with same emg pickups. Took the retros out!!!!! the upgraded block for the babicz trem is huge the floyd....not so much. i cant really tell a difference with the floyd replacement block at all but the babicz is night and day. To the point the schecter at $800 cost, now just above $1200 with different upgrades and PLEK Is my backup. the pacifica sounds like a neck thru compared to the schector.
A bit more mids and sustain. And lets not forget the ytb compresion
Thank you. Saved me a bunch of hassle!
Glad it helped!
For $40 you can’t complain. Not only increases sustain but also improves clarity. Titanium is even more effective but unfortunately way more expensive. Just added titanium string lock blocks. Again for $30 a. Heap effective improvement.
Some of the more affordable blocks may not be of the same quality so they may not provide as much of a difference. That may be why some feel they aren’t hearing a big difference.
I noticed the difference more when playing live with the band, better not definition and finding it very easy to manipulate controlled feedback :)
DAVE! Great video! I've always liked your approach to all things guitar related. Especially your "Best For Your Money" bargin info!
you definitely answered my very same questioning, beforehand it seemed to me technically the all process didn't carry the logic for a switch, but hey that's me of course, thanks so much for your video
your accent, and personality is worth the sub man! 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
LOL Thats so true I do that every once and a while a screw or very important part drops on the floor.Drives me nuts. Years ago I use to try and improve my guitars. My thought on heavy metal would be that it would deaden the transfer of sound. I imagine It could work the other way around if you just found the perfect weight. I have been playing around with a simple Idea of making the block more Harmonic.Something I learned from modifying stuff in the passed. There will always be a trade off. Enjoyed your Video. Thanks for sharing c];-)
In theory, the extra mass will keep the floating end more stable(slightly more like a fixed) by adding inertia and hence more sustain.
The difference is subtle but it’s there. Sounds good
I think the overall difference was worth it. I noticed more sustain, string to string balance was better, I thought the sound was more resonant. I'm sure You will notice an increase in the harmonic content as well.
Please subscribe as I got lots more to share with you about this :)
Didn't hear a big difference in clean. On the dirty, the brass seemed brighter and increased the high end sustain.
You will get even more sustain by adding reamining 3 springs.
low string is tuned sharp with the first block. that's the only thing i noticed.
Im buying it right now
Definitely more sustain and a bit more attack/top end... worth it I think. Makes the guitar sound more open overall in my opinion..
Chris,
You say "open". That is the one description I can't get my head around. How would you describe open?
Dewey B a bit more clarity.
Can hear more frequencies.
at one point in time i tried several differant brass blocks and i went back to a floyd rose steel blocks
i did not like what the brass blocks did for the sound and tone and sustain thought it was all bullshit
Love these videos man! Thank you for testing stuff for us 😂
Yeah,I hear a difference...ordered one for my Ping Floyd Rose..
It changes the tone, slightly. Is it better? That's your call. But the amount of hype regarding these blocks is insane. And yet, how many of your favourite musicians swear by these? Answer: Very few. And the ones that do are asked "Hey, do you want this? " - Just play your guitar.
I had a titanium block, but it only cost 300$, so I bought a depleted uranium/rhodium blend block and now my shit sounds badass 🤘🏻
LOL
Dave Barlow
Waiting on my custom order Kevlar carbon ultra-duty noiseless springs for my Floyd now. Then I’ll be ready to front the ultimate Thrash-Prog-Death metal band . Odins Beard 😂
@@Wargasm644 that's nothing my big L shaped trem block is made of unobtainium! Worth every penny of the $25k
Rthnj Clancy
Yeah, that’s definitely a sweet rig. I’ve got a new one on special order. It’s being milled from Californium and chambered with antimatter cavities for the perfect counterbalance . That shit is gonna rock out on my First Act 🤘🏻
Quite often the Difference between a good guitar and a very good guitar is the sustain so it's worth it I believe.
i would have like to hear them A-B unplugged.
Tone sounds warmer on brass clean, with steel block sounded more metal clean chimey
Ciao nice video , two different tones , i m not sure about brass now i..t has too high mids for me , i prefer a darker low mids tone THANKS
Me Too
Should had done video with a before and after to compare
That's why I like you. Straight to the deal
Use some painters tape to mark your saddles before removal,,,🤟
yes good idea :)
Thanks Dave on a non-locking it's worth it
You hear a serious difference in tone moving to a better metal like brass or titanium but from there a bigger block is only going to give you more sustain because it has more mass to store the energy.
On my strats I put brass blocks on and brass bridge saddles, better response to me and one copy strat a brass nut lol 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
I noticed you installed the rectangular spacer plate back in between the block and the bridge. Adam from FU-Tone says in his installation video to throw that away and don't use it, and calls it a "tone sucker". Maybe try it without that bit.
might try that but will it make a noticeable difference??? Great tip though, thanks.
You should have a tremelo lock with the floating spring if you use that D tuna. It is about 20 bucks on Amazon an takes 10min to install. You WILL notice big difference in staying in tune I install them in all my floating tremelo now no matter what.
This guitars trem rests on the body and springs are adjusted so that when the drop d is used the trem is still sitting tight on the body (just). Its an odd set up at first but I got used to it quickly.
A way better sustain difference, and more clarity from the brass.
It gives a sustain,but also a more treble,lighter sound to it
I didn't hear much difference myself but I can tell you that if that trem is not hugging the body the sound is way bad.
@@DaveBarlowGuitar what do you mean by hugging the body?
actually playing airbourne in the background, nice.
Have ever tried a Rock Block? If your @ 2020 winter Namm stop on by mate.
unfortunately my budget does not allow me to travel across the pond :)
Dave Barlow Of course but I can send you one if you'd like to evaluate it.
@@StoneToneProducts Sure, feel free to send one over :)
Plus, my Floyds all sit on the body and go down pitch only.
That guitar riff sounds familiar. RIP Ed.
My guitar has a "licensed"Floyd rose(cheap O). Is it worth it to swap out for an ofr? anybody? The swap is super easy to do but... is it worth it?
yes I would say so.
@@DaveBarlowGuitar Hey Dave, thanks for responding. That's it. I'm going to scoop one up. Thanks for helping me make up my mind! Rock on brother.🤘👊
Yes. I have a Jackson DJ 32. That had a soup can floyd. I put a real floyd in and that thing refuses to go out of tune.. you can beat the piss out of it now
@@FastSloW-qt8xf I ended up dropping on an original Floyd in vintage copper. It plays way better and your right, I can beat the piss out of it! It's Jackson as well. DKA EX. The nut wasn't put on correctly from the factory, I was able to fix that then to. I'm VERY glad I did it.
adding the brass block does make it sound thicker and maybe a little bit more sustain...not sure about that, but the first touch of the string gives it a heavier punch somehow.......
to be honest.......it's not worth the money...slightly no difference....on the other hand...we hear it trough UA-cam....not an ideal situation sound like........just try it out, I say......:-)
Another good video
Any1 answers thquestion which size is best? What size did u get? What size was it before? It matters. Sounds good!
Smart. Took picture intonation.
Its more of a case of what fits in the cavity.
What is the piece on the intonation screw on the lower string? It looks like something that blocks the bridge from recessing into the body so you can tighten down the trem springs? Interested to know, thanks for the video.
Could th difference in tone just be bc you used fresh strings?
The brass block made your sound a little more punchy and the sustain was better. I think I'll be changing mine.
The brass block sounded slightly more shrill with a longer tail (To me on headphones), Makes me wonder if you could achieve the same with an amp with the treble setting on it set a tad higher.
It made basic rock chords sound full and more mass
I haven't noticed a difference between the regular block and the heavy duty ones.