Floyd Rose Upgrade: 40th Anniversary Floyd
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- Опубліковано 29 бер 2020
- I've had this Jackson Dinky Dk2s for years but I've never used it live. I always felt the weakest point was the licence Floyd Rose. In this video I change that.
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The red thumbscrews go exceptionally well with the finish on the guitar
Ya mean the fine tuners
@@thecreamster1248 The entire operation of said fine tuning is with these thumbscrews. Same thing.
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try pureology shampoo/conditioner.
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@@bthonk dude. you’ll probably think i’m nuts but: only wash your hair like 2-3 times a week. Use a decent shampoo and separate conditioner (like pantene or better). I usually do a couple passes of conditioner. What’s most important is the in between days is brushing it like marsha freakin brady. seriously. when i get lazy and don’t brush it my wife tells me i look like a homeless dude. but when i brush regularly it falls straight and neat like the cover of a 70s rock album. sadly she won’t let me do lamb chops so i just have a goatee, but it works. And then don’t think about it after. it’s hair and we’re guys, not women who make us late to everything doing hair and makeup. Oh ya, and singers. They take as long as most women, but they’re singers, ya know? end of rant.
Hey man, although you're right about Floyd's not being originally designed to bend up, on a good Floyd, you should be able to bend up or down without tuning instability.
He meant that if he broke a string, the string tension wouldnt decrease causing the bridge to tilt back turning it out of tune
christ dude, you're great at channel reviews, gear reviews AND you're incredibly good at demoing stuff. major props KDH, always look forward to your uploads.
Good vid but the gap between the nut and the fingerboard needs to be fixed.
Great vid..... Ive been rockin time to party! Legit late 80s metal... I am old enough to be the judge of that
Wow, the difference in sound quality is shocking - such an improvement.
Damn that really livens up the sound! I did not expect that.
The difference to tone and sustain us huge! Definitely doing this upgrade on my 2002 MIJ DK2! Great video. Thanks!
Thanks for the Americanized "Aluminum" pronunciation. It was a delightful surprise.
The correct way
What a awesome video! I’ve been planning on upgrading mine but now it’s a must!! What a difference! It also made that already killer cherry look even better!! Awesome playing 🤘 and thx for sharing!!!
Man the upgrade looks fantastic n the tone definitely sounds way more rockin!! Hell yes!!! Grat job👍🏽.
This probably your best palying demo yet keep it up!
That riff is from Thin Lizzys last studio record , its the beginning of the song , Cold Sweat.....
Very nice! The improvements are immediately noticable.
I have a MIJ Jackson from the early 2000s and I want to replace the tremolo. I can't afford it at the moment, but this review is just what I needed. Thanks, man!
You have no idea how much this video has helped me sir.. I am so thankful. I've been watching/subscribed from around your start (Perhaps 2.5k subs) and you deserve everything you've gained since then and what is to come in your future. Best wishes my friend, you're gonna knock this shit out of the park.
I just wanted to let you know you just showed me everything I wanted to know Great Coverage Champ Awsom
I own a Jackson Kelly KE3 and it came with the same Floyd, but I have to say I never had tuning issues with it, it wasn't as solid as the German Floyd on my Shecter but it was great, I just replaced the block with a brass one and now it feels very solid along as noiseless spring.
The guitar needs to be tuned in the music clips of it being played with the original trem.
Good video dude that red is really nice n you can hear the difference however there is ways to keep it in tune! Specially an original floyd' I feel your defeating the whole purpose of this system! GGs bro🤘🤘🤘
It’s good to see you back on UA-cam! I’m having some problems with a licensed Floyd in a guitar I’ve had for 16 years or so, I think it’s time to take a leaf out of your book and upgrade :)
Most every licensed one is terrible.
@ᅚᅚᅚᅚ Originals and Schallers and one called a Lockmeister which I think is also made by Schaller are what you want.
Great video and shred chops
Yeah my Floyd has a haryd time staying in chune
You should try a different chuning
Mowe spwings
woah. I was not expecting that much of a tone change!
Sounds and looks great!
I installed a brass big block on my Jackson RS 32 V and the tone is much better, and I had already installed an EMG 81 in the bridge position. The licensed Floyd on it sucks for tuning stability though. I never play that guitar because of that, so I need to upgrade to a better Floyd and start playing that guitar again. PS. Thanks for not demoing any clean tones and not making me have to fast forward to the real tone we’re all here for. Your tone and playing is killer!
Thanks, I was just looking for an alternative for my Epiphone Richie Faulkner V. The floyd on it sucks, but the rest is amazing. The 40 th anniversary seem not to exist anymore, I hope it will be back. thanks for the info 👍
that bridge is absolutely gorgeous!!!
One thing I did notice was that there was a small gap between the end of the fretboard and the front-edge of the locking nut, there should be no gap in between the end of the fretboard and the front-edge of the locking nut because the locking nut's front-edge defines the zero-point of the guitar's scale-length, if this zero-point is not exactly right on the end of the fretboard near the first fret, this will put the guitar's 12th-fret intonation out of whack, and you'll find that the tuning will go progressively out as you go towards the nut, so, when you install the locking-nut the front edge of it needs to be hard up against the end of the fretboard with no gap visible.
You lost grounding when you installed those coated springs, the uninsulated ones before connected the string claw to the bridge but now you don't have continuity.
That's a really good point that I didn't even consider for my current build. Do you have any advice as to how to continue the ground? I'm assuming trim the coating around the spring ends or ground into the brass block.
I am surprised at how much better the guitar sounds. That was definitely worth the upgrade!
The black one was just out of tune lol
Such cleaner and a tighter sound from the original floyd rose. Nice!
Beautiful look on the guitar!
Very hot rod like.
You can also get knobs and tuners in satin chrome, i did that an older Schecter Damien model when I swapped the black to satin chrome to look like the newer models.
I do however have an install recommendation for you, the springs should be straight to the block and not angled.
With an angel, there is a chance the spring pops out due to the changing tension angles when you pull on them.
Thé OFR well setted up has a great tuning stability on floating mode
I have two of these 40th anniversary bridges. Haven't gotten around to install them!! One is gold ,the other silver!!
Much better clarity and cleaner sounding. Night and day difference. Awesome!
I have a Dk2 with a licenced Floyd and you are spot-on. The licenced one is forever giving me problems. I bought the guitar second hand and cheap from a guy who...... Got fed-up with the Floyd issues on this guitar. So, I got it cheap but the downside is I'm forever futzing with it to keep it in tune. I see this upgrade in the near future for this guitar because otherwise I love the guitar.
That trem looks fly son! the red finishing is top notch, wierd about the mismatched screws but very cool after they send out the right parts. I've wanted to do a simaler upgrade on my RG330 for a long time but i don't think the trem route is the same for my version of the edgeIII. after torqing the hell out of the movable parts it seems much more in tune, in my case the screws under the nut were a bit loose easy to miss those, i like your upgrade alot.
I removed my trem-stop and D-tuna off my Kramer Dave Sabo signature model, I also installed Fu-tone Titanium saddle blocks and saddle screws with the brass big block, what a difference. I can swing the trem down or up and stays in tune absolutely. I did the exact same set up on my original Kramer Nightswan Aztec from 1989 and same thing. I think more then anything it improves reliability so much. I'm also doing my 96 Hamer Californian. It's tried and true so why not lol.
I was always surprised Jackson put that on these pro specced Japanese Dinkys. I notice the new DK's have FR1000s which are fine.
KDH, can you do an unboxing and review of the coherent sound in light Sophia's 2:92? Would love to hear your opinion on these. And I am liking your channel.
Very nice guitar. The floyd original is just great. J have a lace crackle 90 or 91 Charvel and it has a made in Germany schaller trem which works great. I think I will buy some of those titanium locking blocks.
Good video man. Thanks so much. That sustainer is too much fun.
Thin Lizzy rules 🤪♥️🤟
I’m old enough to remember the Floyd Rose craze. The thing is I happened to have a Standard Fender Strat with a tremolo that stayed in tune just fine. I would string it up so there wasn’t a steep angle from the nut to the tuners, and lube the nut with chainsaw oil. I couldn’t get the flapping strings effect, but it worked just fine. Almost perfect. I always got comments about how could it be possible to stay in tune. So, I never had a Floyd. I used to call them kitchen sinks. Believe me when I tell you, Floyd Rose was everywhere in the early 80s.
Definitely sounds better. I'm jealous!
The last time I was on tour, I was given a guitar to use that had a Floyd Rose. It broke a string after the second gig. Whereas with my Carvin V220, I could replace the string in a matter of minutes, not so with ol' Floyd. I put the loaner guitar back in its case, where it remained for the next 2-1/2 months, whipped out the Carvin, and all was well.
I have no patience for a tremolo system that requires (a) cutting off the ball ends to restring it, and (b) hoping I didn't leave my Allen wrench at home. I understand that the Speedloader provided some relief, but only if you bought the special bullet-end strings. Now it is difficult, if not impossible, to buy replacement strings. So back to whipping out the Dykes and Allen wrenches ... uh, I'm thinking "no".
The V220 was my workhorse for 29 years. My new guitar is a Kiesel (f/k/a Carvin) DC600 with the Hipshot whammy bar - it will arrive on or about December 16, 2020. Based on the performance of my V220, I look forward to putting it through its paces.
My DC600 arrived as promised on 12/16/20 - and I can sum up the performance of the Hipshot tremolo in two words: "Oh, MAN!" Kiesel does it again!
man why you gotta write a whole book about this smh
@@kingquhzk5143 People always leave long comments. 🤷♂️
Great video. I too am looking to replace the Floyd Rose licensed tremolo on my guitar. I was wondering, is it just a straight swap in terms of size, no drilling required etc?
Sometimes get what you pay for. In this case, obviously. A lot of people are going to be in a position to have to justify an upgrade that costs as much as the guitar though. I think its worth it. As are sustainiac pick ups because they make trems so much fun. I value and really benefit from your videos. Thanks. Keep up the good work.
Nice one buddy! 😎🤘🙏
I recently upgraded to the push in bar and love it over the screw down collar. And it’s only 15.00 US from Floyd...
I’d love to put a German Floyd into my Wolfgang standard...
Question, How old were the strings before you swapped bridges? i feel like thats a major factor in the tone change you seemed to get after the swap. Regardless, ill bet that new one is light years better feeling than that old jackson bridge.
Beautiful guitar !
Great..thank you😎
It's a thing of beauty.
That FR looks suspicious like my Kahler "Steeler" trem from the early 90's.
Nice playing!!
Have same model and also annoyed by the trem. wanted to swap it with edge pro low profile just don't know if it will fit .. great review thanks
OMG you're back
Your old trem could do flutter, that's a nice feature, i've had worse ones that couldn't. But yeah, great improvement in sound and looks, the tone seems more clear, not to mention the greater sustain
I had that same stock Floyd on my 95 Soloist. One day I was watching SpongeBob changing strings and the entire saddle broke. The metal literally cracked apart
the only thing with trem stoppers is how do you compensate for the flatness on the G after a bit of trem action? Every floyd style trem needs a little tug sharp to get back to its correct pitch, the elastic band syndrome.
I found out spring noise, for me, was spring direction. I had the same stupid noise coming from a real German Schaller Floyd. I got rid of it by complete accident, just from changing the direction of the springs. At first the v of springs pointed to the but of the guitar, so i changed it so the v pointed towards the neck and it was gone and felt like butter. Buttery smooth, no clicking. I will say I never cared for trem stoppers. I like to pull up, and developed a picking to work around the detuning of the trem itself.
Did anyone else notice the quite noticeable gap between the new nut and the fret board. I wonder if this effected the tuning/intonation at all...
That's a bummer you had to spend so much money on that FR unit !
I've got a Jackson Dinky FR and mine is the same crap one you tossed away and mine works great and i only broke one string right when I got it but now that it's broke in its great and solid to the core !🤔
It's true . I have a DK2M with the MIJ Jackson licensed trem & an older 93' Soloist Pro with MIG Schaller FR and they're both fine. Ireally don't use trem like I used to as it's not "The 80's" anymore . It's nice to know you have it , but ....... To each . Speaking of the 80's ,1 thing I love about some real FR's is the D-Tuna feature . That too would be handy . Bottom line , everyone needs a hardtail around for crazy alternate tunings .
My most stable guitar is it Ibanez with a edge 3 bridge. Even though it was considerably a cheapo guitar it stays in tune. Sometimes the simplest things give you tuning stability. Over the years I've learned that adding lip balm to the blades and give it a few turns adds tons stability.
Very cool.
Amazing player
You said it took forever to get the bridge pins in, did you have to drill out the holes for them to fit? Are the new OFR pins a direct swap?
your playing is kick ass. keep going kiddo.
since your springs are coated they aren't transmitting the ground. move the ground to the trem block
Hi, nice work! I have the EXACT same guitar as yours and wanted to upgrade the bridge to a Floyd rose too. Just to check, is the cavity long enough to fit the string lock screws when you pull up the trem? Since the Floyd rose is longer than the original bridge as you mentioned.
Yes the standard Floyd rose fits perfectly without any extra routing or mods to the body
Thanks! Will start to work on it.
Should tighten the screws from the back of the neck. And the spring at the ends should be stripped from paint so the contact can transfer from the claw to the bridge. We can hear the humming.
J
Is this made from titanium? noticed they do have a titanium model but unfortunately it’s been discontinued until further notice, which, makes sense, being $1,444 USD, and being in Australia if I ordered it it would make it nearly $2k before shipping it’s not exactly affordable,
I just assume that the chrome finish is what gives it that premium titanium look, looks sick on the jackson, great vid
brass blocks kinda thin tone a little with higher gain and sound a bit tinny with gain sometimes, not always i have both it might depend onthe guitar its installed in
I'm wondering why they would make a floating bridge if all they needed to do was go down? Don't they already have set bridges with a whammy bar that brings it down and then it just slams back flat against the body as a fixed bridged again?
I don't know why, but you remind me of Casey Jones from Perth, Australia (De La Cruz). Sick guitar player.
Hi, i need to ask about this floyd swap, i want to swap a jackson licenced floyd from a js32 RR but i'm not sure if the dimensions of the original floyd rose are compatible with the jackson one, i have no one to ask this with my friends and i need to know this before buying the OFR, you didn't needed to change the routing of the body to swap the bridge?
Cold sweat🤘
I want to change my floyd on my Jackson guitar but how do you know that the floyd can go on ? Are they all the same because my guitar is a R2 locking nut and on floyd rose website in the description it's write R2 locking nut so does it fit or their is another thing to see before ? (Sorry if you don't really understand I'm French lmao)
I have the Flyod Rose Special on a few of my guitars excellent System no problems with it...its a real Flyod Rose never a problem
They start out ok, but eventually what happens is the pivot posts will wear because they use cheaper metals. Happened to 2 of my Floyd rose specials. The tuning posts and the base plate posts will both wear out eventually. Especially if you try to lower the string action on the posts with full string tension
Hello dr
I have a schecter hellraiser c7
Question is it has 4 screws
If I decide the put in three will it work?
Does this affect the action?
Does the bottom edge seem a lot closer to the body on your yours. I just noticed my dk2 has a bigger gap on the top plays good though.
Get string through screws, throw out the blocks & get a tone vise OR Bill Edwards keyless locking nut.
Good video! 🤘 But I gotta ask, how big is 1/turd? 😂
Considering they're made in the same factory around the same time period using the same bridge I should be able to install all of the same parts on my Kelly KE3 without any issues right?
The 'garbage' sound clips had me cracking up! 😅
hey since you are only diving with the floyd why not putting a evh drop-tuna so you can have e standar/ drop d in a second if yoy do so please make a demo
Even a cheap Jackson is a really fun guitar that is easy to play and sounds great. The higher end ones must be awesome.
Did you have to make new holes for the posts or where they interchangable?
That 40th Anniversary looks the same as my original apart from the block. It has the long screws, etc. That black one must be some licensed variation.
For what it's worth, I'm going to de-floyd my guitar. The hassle restringing it shits me up the wall.
either block the the trem or use that trem stopper and thta will make changing strings just as if it didnt have a floyd or just change strings proper,one at a time and its still easy. Been using some of those methods for 25+ yrs and it only takes me about 5 mins longer to change strings than a non floyd does.
Did you go see ..the aristocats ...last month in the button factory ?
Putting allen keys on the back of the headstock is a great idea.
I installed 2 black boxes to my floyd, it pressures againts the floyd block but isn't as silit as your solution, so you don't get that acoustic sound.
Review the non fine tuner floyds if you can!
My stainless saddle screws are like yours but 3 and 3.
Try the Bare knuckle Silo pickups for the ultimate upgrade
Did you try all springs facing straight without the stopper?
The new nut doesn't look like its fitted well?
Honestly I couldn't hear much difference, but I suppose if it stays in tune fine.
(I can't even keep a fixed bridge in tune anyway)
Floyds are well known for staying in tune better than anything other than an evertune, once set up correctly and so long as the strings don't break. However... Setup and strings break so ymmv.
Did the studs fit right in in the holes in the guitar?
Mr KDH: First off thank you for all of your postings: I consider you and your channel "Virtual public servants" to the guitar community. I have the exact Jackson DK-2s that you have (even same color) but mine is older came with "Floyd licensed trem and "Duncan designed Pickups (the serial lookup says 1996 made in japan w/serial# 9691215. Trying to take your advice and looked for (but could not find) the 40th anniversary Floyd trem you suggested.Sold out? Anyway: Being that we have the same guitar, I would like to know some of the correct sizes of parts (like the nut size or any other specifics that would make it easier to buy the rest of the parts you bought (claw, springs, steel screws) Question: If you could not find a "40th anniversary Floyd Which Floyd trem system Would you get? their original 1984, or "original Hot rod"? ...Yes I too would want "nickel or chrome" as well. Any suggestions?.....Thanks in advance...Tim