Explaining Top Fleets/Faction Fleet builds in Azurlane

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  • Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
  • September is more busy than usual for me this year, and this video took a lot of testing in Op.Siren/Chapter 13. A new Ultra Rare ship is coming soon and we will most likely get another new UR by the end of this year. Not sure if this is a good sign or a bad sign...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 361

  • @Just3c
    @Just3c  3 роки тому +268

    GL to all commanders pulling Shimakaze tomorrow~! (Ship reviews will be out 2-3 days after event starts, with Souryuu META included)

    • @yudi9308
      @yudi9308 3 роки тому +1

      Do you have recomendation healer for replace PoW? For chapter 13

    • @korone-most-suki4505
      @korone-most-suki4505 3 роки тому +4

      i hope u can include Azuma fate sim, Yuudachi retrofit and DD buffs also, they're all noticeable changes

    • @maxlisbin5643
      @maxlisbin5643 3 роки тому +5

      What about Azuma's Fate Sim?

    • @lukeuyehara2582
      @lukeuyehara2582 3 роки тому

      Didn’t have enough cubes for shinano. Got 450 this time.

    • @lauraj349
      @lauraj349 3 роки тому

      Thank you for all the hard work 💙

  • @ahmadnabil5847
    @ahmadnabil5847 3 роки тому +6

    0:24 Top Battleship Fleet
    1:57 Royal Navy Battleship Fleet
    2:29 Iris/Vichya Battleship Fleet
    3:07 Top Carrier(IJN) Fleet
    5:00 Iron Blood Carrier Fleet
    6:35 Eagle Union Carrier Fleet
    7:55 Saradegna Empire Fleet
    8:35 Submarine Fleet

  • @MemoriesLP
    @MemoriesLP 3 роки тому +30

    Jean, Richelieu and Perseus simply solo the entire Operation Siren on auto, besides when we are talking about the bosses from fortresses and abyssal. Their pre load just destroy stuff too fast.

    • @pedrobritoaguiar
      @pedrobritoaguiar 3 роки тому +6

      I get what you are saying but Ironblood still wins in fashion when they are together, so i'm not changing.

    • @spardacusyt
      @spardacusyt 3 роки тому +5

      I second this. I use Richie, Perseus, Champagne + San Francisco, Jeanne, Saint Louis. They can solo OpSi without issue

    • @MemoriesLP
      @MemoriesLP 3 роки тому

      @@pedrobritoaguiar I agree with Pedro

    • @Just3c
      @Just3c  3 роки тому +17

      litearlly any functional fleet can destroy OP.Siren mobs btw..they nerf the difficulty so much its a joke now anyways.

    • @windsgrace688
      @windsgrace688 3 роки тому

      I do something similar. I run Richelieu, Perseus, and Cheshire as my main 3 and then have been switching around the others as I throw them in for exp or for META ship skill grinding. Currently running Richelieu, Perseus, Aquila (leveling), Cheshire, Jean D'Arc (leveling), and Saint Louis (leveling). Have no issues auto-ing everything other than bosses and fortresses.

  • @robertoyanez6186
    @robertoyanez6186 3 роки тому +41

    Waiting for a future fleet comp with only Northern Parliament ships :) btw i hope that the rerun of Northern Overture comes to the game soon

    • @silverhost9782
      @silverhost9782 3 роки тому +3

      If they find time in the constant stream of IJN and USS content for one of the other factions 🤣

    • @electrifiedbathbomb7383
      @electrifiedbathbomb7383 3 роки тому

      imagine the boatplane meme
      Lun-class ekranoplan

  • @wupcheers9190
    @wupcheers9190 3 роки тому +46

    Hakuryuu has reload problem even at dev 25. I would say sticking to shoukaku until Hakuryuu reaches dev 30. Also, my agir just reach dev 25 yesterday with over 8100 hp and 50 plus EVA, which is just ridiculous lol

    • @yukinya6137
      @yukinya6137 3 роки тому +2

      Dang, already at dev 25?! jealous

    • @TheRealJohnux
      @TheRealJohnux 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah, Ägir is a beast. I work on her aswell. She is Dev20 and if I could have Traded every damn Hakuryuu BP for her she would be 25 or more aswell. Gonna have to do without her until then.

    • @ayantosio1993
      @ayantosio1993 3 роки тому

      Agir really is a beast. my dev 15 agir already reached 120

    • @nexusvideo
      @nexusvideo 3 роки тому +1

      I agree , her reload is a real issue

  • @sweetelsen3570
    @sweetelsen3570 3 роки тому +11

    Why snorkel on U37? Unlike other U-boats she has enough oxygen to fire all 24 bidders so oxytorp should be a better option?

    • @Just3c
      @Just3c  3 роки тому +1

      due to the firing angle and sub movement, torps can get stuck due to no target in line of sight and cause delay when firing. When this happens, no oxygen gear means you might lose a few torps on the second round.
      Without oxy gear u37 just barely has enough oxygen to fire 2 rounds of bidder so it is safer to run extra oxygen. (This is dependent on the amount of RLD you have on meowficer, for a guide I'm not gonna assume everyone got +12 RLD on their meowficers)

  • @tylerbrown-l4f
    @tylerbrown-l4f 3 роки тому

    Ive put on the exact same gear on the battleship fleet but new jersey fires before duke of york. How do I get duke of york to shoot first?

  • @WindDevil1
    @WindDevil1 3 роки тому +12

    2:30 "beginner friendly" shows gears and ships i still didn't get after 2 years of playing everyday, even if not efficiently :D

  • @cypher9406
    @cypher9406 3 роки тому +3

    Gonna grind some exp on the upcoming event. This video helps me realize which ship should I prioritize on leveling. Most of my ships are sitting on Lvl 100, I'm so confused. Thank you as always! Good Luck to everyone pulling for Shimakaze.

  • @workloadspd
    @workloadspd 3 роки тому +9

    I smell a QE retrofit in the near future because of the new anime, that will boost HMS fleet to top tier. A strong flagship is all that they're missing to be able to tackle any content.

    • @electrifiedbathbomb7383
      @electrifiedbathbomb7383 3 роки тому

      or devs said fuck it and made the Queen Elizabeth Carrier instead

    • @workloadspd
      @workloadspd 3 роки тому +1

      @@electrifiedbathbomb7383 that`s what i`m expecting from her retrofit

    • @evzillia
      @evzillia Рік тому

      Well....

  • @NoName-sh5xe
    @NoName-sh5xe 3 роки тому +25

    I'm excited. I am finally in a comfortable with making a fleet having more ships now. I just finished my Italian Mob Fleet. Now almost done with IJN torp HE fleet.

  • @jakobporter7550
    @jakobporter7550 3 роки тому +4

    Why improved snorkel instead of oxytorp on u-37?

    • @Orthus100
      @Orthus100 3 роки тому

      Additional salvos from the bonus oxygen are worth more than the bonus gained from the Torpedo stat.

    • @nuke2099
      @nuke2099 3 роки тому

      @@Orthus100 On two of my subs I use the snorkel with the oxy torps.

    • @Orthus100
      @Orthus100 3 роки тому

      @@nuke2099 That's fine. You just sacrifice some accuracy for power. I don't know the hard numbers of that gamble, but I'm more on the side of consistency.

    • @nuke2099
      @nuke2099 3 роки тому

      @@Orthus100 At worst I can use them for torpedo DD's instead.

    • @ILikeTurtles-ow8ox
      @ILikeTurtles-ow8ox 3 роки тому +2

      @@Orthus100 wrong, u37 has enough oxy for additional salvo, oxy is bis on u37

  • @exray0
    @exray0 3 роки тому +8

    When you've been playing a year and can't make a single one of these fleets... feels bad man.

    • @silverhost9782
      @silverhost9782 3 роки тому +5

      I've been playing a year and can kind of do a few of them. Thing is, none of these fleets are essential at the moment, most are overkill for the content we have, so dw about too much about it

    • @electrifiedbathbomb7383
      @electrifiedbathbomb7383 3 роки тому

      the pain of having a few event ships

    • @Legion_
      @Legion_ 3 роки тому +1

      When you've been playing for 3 years and can only make 1 or 2 of these fleets sadge

  • @KubusSc7
    @KubusSc7 3 роки тому +5

    For me running Bismarck was ALWAYS worth it. She has so good buffs and it feels nice to have her leading a fleet over and over again to victory whatever the enemy. :P

    • @satannstuff
      @satannstuff 3 роки тому +1

      I genuinely don't get why people think she's weak, just under 50% effective main gun crit rate is no joke.

    • @KubusSc7
      @KubusSc7 3 роки тому

      @@satannstuff Has good HP, has ncie buffs to increase dmg, reduce dmg of your fleet. Good in PVE as well. She is a great Iron Blood flagship. Just needs better outfits! I want L2D. XD

    • @polisguard5714
      @polisguard5714 3 роки тому

      @@KubusSc7 but the formal dress is L2D tho

  • @sander6438
    @sander6438 2 роки тому

    0:37 what if you don't have helena meta and new jersey?

  • @HeXGaruDo
    @HeXGaruDo 3 роки тому +1

    Question about 4:40: does this time include Homing Beacon's -4% loading time buff or not? It's not applied to the reload time in the equipment screen when equipped, only when the actual fight begins like other buffs, example Nagato's

    • @ProjectAtlasmodling
      @ProjectAtlasmodling 3 роки тому

      It's after math is done

    • @Just3c
      @Just3c  3 роки тому +3

      no the time shown is the number you see on equipment screen, and don't use homing beacon for souryuu meta with the 3 airstrike setup.
      Things like Nagato buff and homing beacon are not shown in equipment screen so be careful when time adjusting

  • @Bob_Dylan_KFP
    @Bob_Dylan_KFP 3 роки тому +1

    Heyo ! Thanks for the guide !
    For the Eagle union carrier fleet, is PoW a huge upgrade over another strong EU carrier, e.g. Essex ? Given as Essex buffs herself with the presence of Enty and Independance, this fleet should be able to hit bosses, right ?

  • @mikhaelpiedro251
    @mikhaelpiedro251 3 роки тому

    Does you equipment on fdg and nj on the first battle is all +13?

  • @jasonshen7600
    @jasonshen7600 3 роки тому +2

    Wait Op siren can be used to level ships? I always thought it gives little to no exp.

    • @danielak1666
      @danielak1666 3 роки тому

      Little to no exp is still exp tough. The main advantage of opsi for exp farm is it's cost 0 oil. So you can farm almost as much as you wants

  • @ILikeTurtles-ow8ox
    @ILikeTurtles-ow8ox 3 роки тому +4

    u37 has enough oxy for additional salvo, oxy is bis on u37, not snorkel

  • @Asphroxia
    @Asphroxia 3 роки тому +1

    Is there some kind of website you used to show off the equipment?

  • @DarkGenisis
    @DarkGenisis 3 роки тому +8

    Can you make a guide to do aircraft strike timings? I know there is an online calculator but it confused the hell out of me when I tried it.
    Perhaps walk us through how to reach your timings for Souryuu?

    • @p_bot
      @p_bot 3 роки тому

      you can see the time on the gear menu, from there simply equip planes with faster/slower low times and see

  • @jokosh3427
    @jokosh3427 3 роки тому

    Why do your carriers so much dmg? I dont get it, my carriers are all lvl 120 too, but the dmg my carriers deal is ridiculous compared to the dmg of your fleet. Do you run +13 on every slot or what is going on?

  • @Disappointed_Philosoraptor
    @Disappointed_Philosoraptor 3 роки тому

    Beautifully put together.
    A question, since i have no idea how to calculate fleet dps:
    How much worse is bismark-odin-fdg backline damage wise compared to the top tier bb fleet? (suppose both bfleets go with a frontline helena)
    If you do not want to bother finding out, can you elaborate how you calculate all of this or point me to resources i can use?
    Essentially, i want to have a comparison to see how much better/worse my fleet is. as my odin regularly sits neck to neck damage wise with my FDG in the Souryuu and before in the helena fight.

    • @ProjectAtlasmodling
      @ProjectAtlasmodling 3 роки тому

      The math is pretty easy once you sit down and do it. Just look up combat on the wiki and it'll give you the damage equations

    • @Just3c
      @Just3c  3 роки тому +1

      All the numbers are in the wiki so you can setup a spreadsheet and calculate it. Assuming no overkill/timing issue, purely based on DPS, KMS fleet is about 15-20% behind top BB fleet depending on armor match up. It is definitely good enough to be used because the current contents in Azurlane are not that hard.

  • @octaviantonugroho1919
    @octaviantonugroho1919 3 роки тому

    here now im confused to adjust timing on carrier, can u example one setup with the gear pls ?

  • @ImNotQualifiedToSayThisBut
    @ImNotQualifiedToSayThisBut 3 роки тому

    Why the snorkel on U-37? Afaik her base stats are enough to let her fire 24 torps (like the other two with snorkel) so giving her a rainbow torp would probably benefit her more, wouldn't it?

  • @moffant4916
    @moffant4916 3 роки тому +1

    all that damage on Souryuu META, I'm so jealous. Thanks for this guide.

  • @Isoroku21
    @Isoroku21 3 роки тому +1

    Speaking of nations ("factions"), anniversary stream contained probable tease of new nation (showing fragment of emblem when announcing spin-off game).

    • @Isoroku21
      @Isoroku21 3 роки тому

      @Steve Wolcott Australia, Canada, Netherlands, Poland and Sweden. And from what they've shown my bet is on Poland.
      Though the question is if it's for upcoming spin-off game or not.

    • @Isoroku21
      @Isoroku21 3 роки тому

      @Steve Wolcott If Yostar could make Dragon Empery work, all above mentioned nations can work too.
      Also my bet is based on timing and visuals. I can elaborate on that if you want.

    • @redenginer2234
      @redenginer2234 3 роки тому

      @Steve Wolcott
      Still Poland could be nice for one event

    • @redenginer2234
      @redenginer2234 3 роки тому

      @Steve Wolcott
      So to get a faction to game they must have capital ships ?
      X D
      Also they will add Polish navy in future, so yea ;)

    • @redenginer2234
      @redenginer2234 3 роки тому

      @Steve Wolcott
      🎶Ms strawman🎶

  • @lilremix
    @lilremix 3 роки тому +1

    im actually trying to build a EU carrier fleet myself, but since im going EU supremacy, i went with essex instead of pow. for the vanguard, i went with anchorage instead of san fran, but im sure they both the same tankiness? correct me if im wrong. also the one i did was for bossing, enty and essex with ryusei, and indep kai with swordfish.

    • @naejin
      @naejin 3 роки тому +1

      Initially I thought you meant European Union, but came to realize you meant Eagle Union.

    • @nuke2099
      @nuke2099 3 роки тому

      Anchorage is even more of a tank than San Francisco.

  • @NijiharaKaito0
    @NijiharaKaito0 3 роки тому +1

    I've been away for some months and this video dropped just as I'm coming back to the game. Really nice to know what's the meta nowadays.
    But also really bad to *not* know a lot of those equips on ships... or even some ships

  • @Weste88
    @Weste88 3 роки тому

    9:05 can you please explain that to me? why are bidders better on top/bottom? the salvo goes straight forward, so with the limited maneuverability of the bidders, wouldnt it be statistically best to place them in the middle, while the homing G7's from top/bottom can still target everywhere?

    • @nuke2099
      @nuke2099 3 роки тому

      Ideally you would generally have bidders on all subs if you eventually got all the copies needed. Not sure why he mentioned what he did.

    • @Weste88
      @Weste88 3 роки тому

      @@nuke2099 obviously, but the Mark VIII bps are bitches and dont wanna come out play with me >.

    • @nuke2099
      @nuke2099 3 роки тому

      @@Weste88 I know that feel. I can make two at least but have been saving resources for other gears.

  • @crusaderknight4469
    @crusaderknight4469 3 роки тому

    How much oil did you burn to gain you PR4 ship

  • @SimonPetrikovv
    @SimonPetrikovv 3 роки тому

    In the USS subs, is Nautilus in the middle position?

  • @darkdude1996ify
    @darkdude1996ify 3 роки тому +1

    Surprised there's no Jeanne mention for the French fleet. Does she just not fit into the fleet well enough?

    • @Just3c
      @Just3c  3 роки тому +3

      she is a generic survival support, her damage output is insignificant and using her in french fleet or not doesn't make much difference.

    • @darkdude1996ify
      @darkdude1996ify 3 роки тому +1

      @@Just3c I see. I've personally never used her, but I see a lot of people recommend her all the time, saying she's ridiculously good at keeping your vg alive. Glad to see I don't need to purposely bother building her

    • @myatthu7165
      @myatthu7165 3 роки тому +2

      @@darkdude1996ify jean is basically for Big dmg meta bosses showcases plus some annoying pvp fleets and nothing much else.

    • @nuke2099
      @nuke2099 3 роки тому

      Personally I run a full French fleet in OpSiren and they work fine there. I have Saint Louise, Jeanne, Algerie in that order.

  • @ExtremelyHyped
    @ExtremelyHyped 3 роки тому +8

    IJN CV fleet without Kazagumo and French fleet without Le Mars. Hm, I see. Is it really about faction fleets?

    • @wupcheers9190
      @wupcheers9190 3 роки тому +4

      Keeping a full cv backline hidden is very important, so curlew retrofit is a better choice than kazagumo. Sure, kazagumo deals more dmg and can benefit from IJN buff, but using her means you may have to use another anti air vanguard. Using curlew retrofit, however, not only can provide air strike buff, but also solve the anti air problem and keep backline cv hidden.

    • @ExtremelyHyped
      @ExtremelyHyped 3 роки тому +2

      @@wupcheers9190 you are overestimating Curlew's AA. Also I kinda missed moment, when Curlew became IJN

    • @ryzkyjaeger07
      @ryzkyjaeger07 3 роки тому

      @@wupcheers9190 hiding your CVs in PvE is only a matter of when, might as well go all in for the kill.

    • @silverhost9782
      @silverhost9782 3 роки тому +5

      @@ExtremelyHyped Curlew's AA from my experience is very strong

    • @Mario-kf3ej
      @Mario-kf3ej 3 роки тому

      especially that by tomorrow said Kazagumo may receive significant buff ... makes this double surprising.

  • @gamerpl4995
    @gamerpl4995 3 роки тому

    I wonder, are you showing the gear that works most optimally for the ship itself or altogether in the fleet? I ask mainly about Helenas' main guns in first fleet (I guess AOA?) and Mainz and Roon's torpedos in Iron Blood Fleet. How are golden torps better than the rainbow ones, or are you just showing who has bigger priority for them?

  • @Hjiel
    @Hjiel 3 роки тому

    How much meowfficer reload do we want for unoathed KMS subs with bidders on them?

  • @waifuhunter9709
    @waifuhunter9709 3 роки тому

    For EU faction, is it better to use essex or ticonderoga instead of owarida (enterprise)?

    • @johnandres5695
      @johnandres5695 3 роки тому

      The best fleet is a mixed fleet anyways dont chain yourself with faction fleets but yeah enterprises isnt good at mobbing anyway she'll be better at a boss fleet

  • @elexymorph3921
    @elexymorph3921 3 роки тому

    Can somebody please explain to me how the activity system for the guild works.

  • @kenzakitakeru2184
    @kenzakitakeru2184 3 роки тому

    I don't have curlew for ijn fleet yet but what the purpose for her in the fleet? I want to play shinano and shimakaze on the fleet, are they good with the back line of shinano, nagato and shoukaku?

    • @redenginer2234
      @redenginer2234 3 роки тому

      AA ship, that will prevent detection by planes
      Also cv damage bonus

  • @Beregondz
    @Beregondz 3 роки тому

    can you show equipment for that Soryuu meta fight? I tried the same fleet but the result is much worse

  • @affandi99
    @affandi99 3 роки тому +2

    Nicely done as usual, Just3c!
    Now I got so many options to choose for :)

  • @gimligim4369
    @gimligim4369 3 роки тому

    Could one use the IJN and Eagle Carrier fleets to auto Ch 13?

  • @andrewa700
    @andrewa700 3 роки тому

    *groans* why does half the iron blood fleet need to be pr units, im too lazy to grind pr :/

  • @duskdawn7819
    @duskdawn7819 3 роки тому +3

    since the DD buff is coming i wonder which DD have the strongest all-out attack ?

    • @RyItar
      @RyItar 3 роки тому +1

      Well torpedo DDs that fires torps during AoA scales with % of their torp stat (usualy around 80%) so with torp changes (not sure if they also affect AoA torps) the might become better now.

    • @Mario-kf3ej
      @Mario-kf3ej 3 роки тому

      on stream they did show all out for Shima ... and it does look rather nasty tons of shells, slash and 2 x 5 torps. I expect Yuudachi will have her all out reworked as UR too but who knows.

    • @Test-ih9nq
      @Test-ih9nq 3 роки тому

      It depends on the armor type. Which one? Mobs are mostly Light, then medium and rarely heavy armor.

    • @LiveErrors
      @LiveErrors 3 роки тому +1

      Z46 and the Le Malins win that category generally

    • @issacfoster1113
      @issacfoster1113 3 роки тому +1

      Imagine Eldrige lol. Not maybe powerful. But I enjoyable those barrages.procc every 5s

  • @MarihanChao
    @MarihanChao 3 роки тому

    Wow, surprising timing, almost didn't think there was going to be a video before the event started, thanks for the treat~! :3
    Do you use a specific tool/website for airstrike launch speeds or is it mostly trial and error (+experience)?

    • @azurblueknights
      @azurblueknights 3 роки тому +2

      If you select one of your carriers and go to her gear tab, the game will show you the launch speeds. As an example, my Centaur shows FR 20.56s/wave. So at 20.56 seconds into the fight, she'll launch a strike. 20.56 seconds after that will be her second, and so on. As you equip different planes with different speeds those times will adjust so don't be afraid to experiment.

    • @Orthus100
      @Orthus100 3 роки тому

      @@azurblueknights This right here. You do have to manually modify for the Beacon's 4% boost if used, but that's easy enough with any calculator.

  • @The_VanDal
    @The_VanDal 3 роки тому

    what about Zeppelin for the Iron Blood Fleet ?

  • @jamesyoung151
    @jamesyoung151 3 роки тому

    Nice! Just3c. I have a means to boost up the Italians

  • @SHADOWREX11
    @SHADOWREX11 3 роки тому

    Is it okay to run double white Type 1 AP shells for BB's? They stack right?

    • @silverhost9782
      @silverhost9782 3 роки тому

      Yep

    • @Orthus100
      @Orthus100 3 роки тому

      The stats do, the crit damage does not.

    • @SHADOWREX11
      @SHADOWREX11 3 роки тому

      @@Orthus100 really? why doesn't it say does not stack?

    • @SHADOWREX11
      @SHADOWREX11 3 роки тому

      @@silverhost9782 does the crit ability stack?

    • @silverhost9782
      @silverhost9782 3 роки тому +1

      @@SHADOWREX11 I don't think it does no, gear with unique attributes like that pretty much never stack

  • @themambawarrior2290
    @themambawarrior2290 3 роки тому +3

    I fully expected Enterprise and Inde Retro to be in the EU carrier fleet, and somewhat suspected on Balti and San Fran, but I didn't expect the PoW and Stephen Potter.

  • @randomsheep7844
    @randomsheep7844 3 роки тому +4

    i personally run 1 battleship 2 carrier fraction fleets, being these
    USS: NJ, Essex, Saratoga
    HMS: Warsprite: Ark Royal, Perseus
    IJN: Nagato, Shinano, Hakuryuu
    KMS: Bismark, A.V.P, Graf Zeppelin

  • @justinemarkdajay7485
    @justinemarkdajay7485 3 роки тому

    Just3c what's the song name you're using? It's awesome.

  • @fpurizh2156
    @fpurizh2156 3 роки тому

    No 😭 i dont have any weapon on this video.. its full upgrade, right?
    My ship level up yet 😭

  • @peacechan4500
    @peacechan4500 3 роки тому

    Question, which is the flagship and front ship for each of the formation in the sample fleet?

    • @Just3c
      @Just3c  3 роки тому

      middle is the flagship for backline.

  • @ShinodaChan
    @ShinodaChan 3 роки тому +8

    None of this changes how Strasser's time stop is inconsistent at best and counterproductive at worst, screwing up timings while providing a near non-existent slow. It's easier and similarly effective to use Graf instead, especially for situation when you need the 15% damage reduction.

    • @gabio7913
      @gabio7913 3 роки тому

      I would rather use Graf instead as well, given that she has 15% damage reduction which is very useful for tough bosses since they can hit hard.(Not to mention in terms of damage she won't fall behind much)

    • @DeusVultGamer
      @DeusVultGamer 3 роки тому

      I'm of a similar mindset. Graf makes IB fleet tanky AF.

    • @Jamllkp
      @Jamllkp 3 роки тому

      How can Strasser be counter productive overall. In the rare scenarios where a constantly moving enemy gets stopped by her while moving towards torps, a non-slowing CV would be missing way more against said mobile enemy.

    • @ryzkyjaeger07
      @ryzkyjaeger07 3 роки тому +2

      @@Jamllkp >rare
      You kinda answered yourself there, we're talking consistency here. Strasser is kinda shitty in that department with her time stop no cap. Overpromised, underdelivered.

    • @Jamllkp
      @Jamllkp 3 роки тому

      @@ryzkyjaeger07 the alternative is an IB CV with no slow which will miss even more against a fast enemy. If we’re talking about pure meta build then sure, throw her to the curb but within the context of an IB faction fleet she does what she needs to do just fine.

  • @jolunrohthocoudis526
    @jolunrohthocoudis526 3 роки тому

    One question I do have, Why Roon U over Prinz Heinrich?

    • @nuke2099
      @nuke2099 3 роки тому

      Roon U is slightly better. Before the best pure Iron Blood vanguard was Roon U, Mainz/Leipzig/Nurnburg, Heinrich and now it's Agir, Mainz, Roon U. Or if you don't have Mainz it's Agir, Heinrich, Roon U.

  • @Hurricane6220
    @Hurricane6220 3 роки тому

    Thank you for the comprehensive video, 3c! :)

  • @tuestresfat
    @tuestresfat 3 роки тому +6

    Was confused when you referred to USS as EU lol, some other games EU refers to europe

    • @rommel25687
      @rommel25687 3 роки тому +1

      I would say the whole f****** world, not just other games :D

    • @sheinaragners
      @sheinaragners 3 роки тому

      ikr lol.
      whenever i hear EU i think of europe. istead of eagle union.

  • @kulikov
    @kulikov 3 роки тому

    Is it possible to create anything usefull with Northern fleet?

    • @Just3c
      @Just3c  3 роки тому

      not yet

    • @kulikov
      @kulikov 3 роки тому

      @@Just3c Sad to hear, but thanks for answering

  • @MolfredoSascha
    @MolfredoSascha 3 роки тому

    Some days ago i tried to get the 3rd star on 13-4
    I used Pizza Main Fleet + Perseus vanguard still trying to remember who used besides Ducca + Seattle
    I cleared the "defeat all enemies" with almost full hp on this fleet, i never felt so proud when i realize only Taihou fight was the only one left

  • @MidKnight2142
    @MidKnight2142 3 роки тому

    Well crud, missing a good number of ships on the list, I didn't even know there was a UR CV from IJN that I missed entirely. Though I was pretty lucking pulling NJ and Shimakaze. I'm also completely wrong on all my armaments apparently, never seen most of these, also I haven't figured out the the crafting stuff yet via Gear Lab. Here I thought I was safe running Tirpitz, Bismarck, Graf Zep, Ayanami, Belfast and Roon as my primary fleet. Now its like wtf lol.

  • @gracegrenore8731
    @gracegrenore8731 3 роки тому

    Can we use Kazagumo instead of Curlew ?

    • @Orthus100
      @Orthus100 3 роки тому

      Yes. I believe Curlew is being used here for her AA and superior survivability as a CL.

  • @sanaret3230
    @sanaret3230 3 роки тому

    Would Kazagumo be a better option than Curlew retrofit? Kazu is IJN which helps with Shinano's buff and has a modified air-raid supremacy with a similar effective-health to Curlew given they're both light armor

    • @user_PC945
      @user_PC945 3 роки тому +2

      Because he uses Azuma for the 3rd IJN ship. If you want to replace Azuma to Agir or Cheshire, you can use Kazagumo.

    • @PratzStrike
      @PratzStrike 3 роки тому

      @@user_PC945 Similarly, would it be worthwhile to put Sirius in as the support ship, assuming Shinano/Shoukaku/Zuikaku - Azuma/Curlew?

    • @user_PC945
      @user_PC945 3 роки тому

      @@PratzStrike OK, Sirius's buff stacks with it. And her buff still exists even if she is dead. So when fight a high difficulty battle, she can be the "tribute" to protect Kazagumo or Curlew.

  • @UltimateFrozenTea
    @UltimateFrozenTea 3 роки тому +1

    after videos like this one i realise that it actually hurts to have no UR ships T_T

    • @silverhost9782
      @silverhost9782 3 роки тому

      Same. 400,000 plus damage on NJ in that meta fight is just impossible with any SR ship

  • @niklasmalm9405
    @niklasmalm9405 3 роки тому

    georgia is pulling out more damage then FDG.
    As i'm using georgia, FDG and jersery in my meta fleet, guild operation fleet and boss fleet in Siren strong hold.
    Thanks to the free UR gun from proto type shop I'm now having 3x of them.
    Changing out duke for georgia would be more damage in the end of it + as georgia with her own gun + jersery together does normal 20-80k more damage then FDG does.

    • @Pepe-dq2ib
      @Pepe-dq2ib 3 роки тому +3

      NO she does not, if she did then its probably a shorter battle or a 1/10 thing.

    • @niklasmalm9405
      @niklasmalm9405 3 роки тому

      @@Pepe-dq2ib "No she does not"
      How they reading going bud, should i copy paste it once more so you can read it.

    • @Pepe-dq2ib
      @Pepe-dq2ib 3 роки тому

      @@niklasmalm9405 what? "georgia is pulling out more damage then FDG"

    • @kingelendil1142
      @kingelendil1142 3 роки тому +2

      The reason you want to be running Duke is because of the skill Trepidation of Destruction which has the following effect:
      "Increase the damage dealt for this ship's first main gun salvo each battle by 20% (50%). Enemies hit by this ship's main gun take 3% (12%) more damage for 8s."
      The last part is the important part. If you make sure Duke hits first, NJ and FDG will get a better increase in damage than the increase you'd get by replacing Duke with Georgia.

    • @Pepe-dq2ib
      @Pepe-dq2ib 3 роки тому

      @@kingelendil1142 apparently to him UR=Best so he sticks it on all of them. He probably put the triple 406 on Duke.

  • @air_w0lf766
    @air_w0lf766 3 роки тому

    Thank you for this guide 3c! Good luck too.

  • @lucamarchesini1290
    @lucamarchesini1290 3 роки тому

    Thanks for your job, I'm sure this video will help A LOT of shikikans

  • @jeiaori
    @jeiaori 3 роки тому +1

    I never really play OS and the META fights. It must be good to have those gear lab stuff huh?

    • @nickwilliams6621
      @nickwilliams6621 3 роки тому +3

      Getting the ships is easy, but getting the gear is a whole different ball game. I literally have next to none of the gear this guy is running, and I've been playing since December, 2018 lol. The lab gear is *really* hard to farm because RNG is involved. I just play OS for the META ships and stop playing once I have max limit broken them.

    • @jeiaori
      @jeiaori 3 роки тому

      @@nickwilliams6621 yeah I know that it's easy to get the META ships, but I still didn't bother getting them. I only do the dailies for like 10 mins and leave. I'm that lazy in Azur lane

  • @belenuzx
    @belenuzx 3 роки тому +1

    Royal Navy Carrier Fleet where? 🤔
    I'm pretty sure they're the first converging TB abuser before Shinano came (Ark Royal, Centaur, Formidable trio)

  • @Aleks96Clips
    @Aleks96Clips 3 роки тому

    is warspite retrofit not good anymore for hms or wut?

    • @silverhost9782
      @silverhost9782 3 роки тому

      She's still good. Can't really use her against light armour though

  • @imtiredtiredtired
    @imtiredtiredtired 3 роки тому

    Nice video! My "strategy" so far is unga bunga grug see rainbow, grug put to fleet

  • @jmoney19999
    @jmoney19999 3 роки тому

    where does the data for these come from?

    • @nuke2099
      @nuke2099 3 роки тому

      I don't think it comes from anywhere other than his own personal testing. For example when he says other French BB's other than Richelieu aren't as high tier he's wrong because based on the EU community tier list Champagne and Gascogne (mob fleet) are tier 0 same as Richelieu and have been since their release and that's without Richelieu's buff. He claims Strasser is better than Graf however the same tier list has Graf at tier 1 and Strasser at tier 2.
      And the EU tier list is made up from discussion and testing from multiple people not one person unlike the CN tier list which is just one sole persons opinion.

    • @jmoney19999
      @jmoney19999 3 роки тому

      @@nuke2099 I realize this too late afterwards, tho yea he undervalues the power of some ships for having some perfectly timed max potential damage, thats one thing the TL doesnt take in cause thats not needed, like in his example for EU fleet I would take essex over enty even if they are both t0 essex has more utility in her defense that helps the fleet while buffing herself off of POW and Indep

    • @nuke2099
      @nuke2099 3 роки тому

      ​@@jmoney19999 Exactly.

  • @dodrio1000
    @dodrio1000 3 роки тому +4

    If they ever make a QE retro I think HMS has enough tools to compete as the best jack of all trades faction they can almost do anything but salvo preloads. I Have gone to w13 mob clearing with QE Centaur Illustrius and dido sirius Hermione. IT is solid i wish my favorite factions was a bit better. My 1st pvp fleet was hms I still use them to dis day got every hms ship in 120.

  • @adrianojeda6257
    @adrianojeda6257 3 роки тому +1

    i´m not arguing against the cost of farming the PR4, I´m crying because of my Ghost Nautilus who didn´t came home, I like the design and she´s also Meta Bruhhhh

  • @DeusVultGamer
    @DeusVultGamer 3 роки тому

    I'm curious what Dev level you have Agir at?

    • @Just3c
      @Just3c  3 роки тому +5

      19, Agir is already top tier at dev 15.

  • @masqueradis6925
    @masqueradis6925 3 роки тому +4

    They seriously need to give poor Liz a retro, would make Royal Navy fleets so much better.

  • @Mario-kf3ej
    @Mario-kf3ej 3 роки тому

    Can go full IB CV Graff Zepp after buff is pretty solid but her buff is for survival only . She benefits from Strasser 10% increased reload... so there is merit in that , because on personal level she will outdps Bismarck.
    Also actually prefering EU sub fleet , VERY consistent and doesn't lag in damage much at all. Also not to underestimate super high durability of EU subs (also Cavalla provides 15% damage reduction on top of more HP and oxygen) - easier to launch more torps than IB fleet due to oxygen difference (even if no RLD buff). Nautilus too weird and may die in hard content so Albacore is my last spot.

    • @ProjectAtlasmodling
      @ProjectAtlasmodling 3 роки тому +1

      Ok the fleet here is a single target fleet for iornblod. This fleet is bad outside of that it can work but is bad.
      You really want to run bismarck zeppelin then normally Odin for the third ship (the third changes depending on what your doing). With a vanguard that includes leipzig and two of the german cruisers that fit what your doing the most

    • @Just3c
      @Just3c  3 роки тому +2

      nah i have zepp at 120 and tried, she is not a great choice. IB vanguards are so tanky they can survive multiple elite battles without healing. Survivability is not an issue there. Bismarck gives a pretty big damage boost to the entire team so she is much much better.

    • @ProjectAtlasmodling
      @ProjectAtlasmodling 3 роки тому +1

      @@Just3c what are you giving your zeppelin because she wants a bf-109g and duble dive. (You will only ever use a wyvern in her flex slot or else you lose a lot of damage)
      And she's ok at single target but by far prefers clear.

    • @ProjectAtlasmodling
      @ProjectAtlasmodling 3 роки тому +1

      @@Just3c are you not gonna answer my question?

    • @jmoney19999
      @jmoney19999 3 роки тому

      @@ProjectAtlasmodling this is one part why the AL community picks on him, like I dont hate the dude but Just3 is the definition of: *lifts glasses* "Ackchyually", then gives ok info and sometimes makes a fleet seem stronger then they are (same for some ships)

  • @waifuhunter9709
    @waifuhunter9709 3 роки тому

    Thank you for this video just 3c
    I can not express enough how much this going to help me.
    I have a suggestion for royal navy , what about we add dido as second ship? Dido buffs QE alot

    • @silverhost9782
      @silverhost9782 3 роки тому

      It's just not good enough to make QE viable. You may as well just pick stronger ships with no synergy

    • @nuke2099
      @nuke2099 3 роки тому

      @@silverhost9782 Tbh he should have had Dido listed if he even had QE in the fleet at all since only then is she even worth thinking about but like you said you might as well just use a better BB anyway. I use NJ in that slot currently with my British backline.

  • @Momosu
    @Momosu 3 роки тому

    I cant wait for the destroyer buffs to make this change tomorrow because we underestimate the buffs

    • @azurblueknights
      @azurblueknights 3 роки тому +1

      Thing is, I'm not too sure that the destroyer buff is going to be all that impactful. Destroyers are in a bad spot right now because evasion has a cap, and enemies in OpSi have really high hit values. So even if you can get a DD near the evasion cap, it doesn't matter because OpSi enemies can have such high hit, and DDs don't have the health to be taking hits. So giving gunboats more All-Out Assault activations and torpbotes better torpedo launches isn't going to solve the underlying issues. The only "buff" that might be decent is the one that gives more stats from auxiliary equipment, but since the DDs who get that are probably the tanky and support DDs, its not really going to shake up the meta in the slightest.

  • @amadobro
    @amadobro 3 роки тому +1

    muchas gracias por la informacion, soy un veterano tengo lv 117 pero siempre busco como mejorar ya que es mi juego favorito :)

  • @vira8190
    @vira8190 3 роки тому +3

    tfw you still use the Nagato + foxes and call it a day

    • @nicz7694
      @nicz7694 3 роки тому

      I have still used that as Boss fleet for 13-4 for Grinding Bunker Hill and it worked just fine.

  • @korone-most-suki4505
    @korone-most-suki4505 3 роки тому +1

    a well-made unexpected video, thank u 3c

  • @rustkun6888
    @rustkun6888 3 роки тому

    What about warspite retrofit?

  • @hunt7533
    @hunt7533 3 роки тому +1

    I wish I played since day one, would've been nice to be in ease as an veteran who finished all PR grinding, have most of the ships at max level, and etc. Now we're getting Lvl 125, pain...

    • @kenshinag
      @kenshinag 3 роки тому +2

      They did announce rework of EXP (no details) so maybe it'll make it easier? I would like something like if ships max level then the EXP they gain is diverted to the ship in fleet that is still not max.

    • @hunt7533
      @hunt7533 3 роки тому

      @@kenshinag Yea I saw that but idk if they'll really make it easier to Level up tbh, if they do I'll be able to level up ships to Level 120 quicker now, I can't go that hard due to being busy with reality.

    • @azurblueknights
      @azurblueknights 3 роки тому +4

      As someone who has been here since day 1, with a 100% collection, the issue that me and other veterans have is the fact that there are still good ships being constantly released that we want to play with or incorporate into existing fleets... and leveling a ship from 1 to 120 is an absolute bundle of pain. It requires something like 2 million exp to just go from 115 to 120. Its even worse when you realize that on JP and EN servers, we actually *require* more exp per level than CN does.

    • @hunt7533
      @hunt7533 3 роки тому

      @@azurblueknights Exactly, it takes an whopping 4,325,675 EXP to Level an Normal Ship to 120 and 5,087,000 for UR/DR ships, it's crazy. CN is 4,205,000 for Normal ships to reach 120, idk why though. Yea I want to work on ships that I still have to finish but then they release more ships that I have to work on as well thus it takes forever me to finally use them because I still have to Skill Level them tp 10 but the problem is getting their levels up.

    • @kenshinag
      @kenshinag 3 роки тому

      @@hunt7533 Yeah I hear you. Waiting on skills to level up is the worst. I wish there was a way to level up the skills through grinding, like with the META ships.

  • @lim3020
    @lim3020 3 роки тому

    I just randomly build team on each faction & meanwhile still waiting for the banner with U-96 to return since last time fail to get her...

  • @bokeni
    @bokeni 3 роки тому

    Patiently waiting for Bismarck to be added to the perma pool given she had a re run event already i think? only joined the game a year ago during shinano event.

  • @gregkun1
    @gregkun1 3 роки тому

    gees, I have 74% 407/550 of the ship girls in-game but don't have access to most of the equipment or have enough blueprints to craft in the game. :(

  • @danimetal4171
    @danimetal4171 3 роки тому

    I feel like crap because I started recently xD
    plus I didn't even get Shimakaze this event. my account seems doomed.

  • @jolunrohthocoudis526
    @jolunrohthocoudis526 3 роки тому +4

    me who runs x4 Royal Navy Fleets in OpS. *Scoffs in tea and crumpets*

  • @duythien7419
    @duythien7419 3 роки тому

    No hakuryuu?

  • @Sombody123
    @Sombody123 3 роки тому

    I used to be at the top of the meta a year ago, it's kinda sad to see I've fallen so far out of grace despite all my efforts.

  • @dwaynechocola312
    @dwaynechocola312 2 роки тому

    Why is PoW the faction buffer for EU???? wtf, I can not be the only one confused by that?

  • @ayantosio1993
    @ayantosio1993 3 роки тому

    Me using FDG, Zeppelin, Ryuho, Agir, Roon, Helena for the most of OpSi... Damn, I missed half of the IB ships

  • @farandapriza1524
    @farandapriza1524 3 роки тому +1

    Bring Essex and eagle union fleet to chapter 13 and feel satisfied like you back to 1945

  • @maxlisbin5643
    @maxlisbin5643 3 роки тому

    Can you replace Peter Strasser with Graf Zeppelin?

    • @antialpaka1186
      @antialpaka1186 3 роки тому +1

      It would lead to a bit of a dps loss since you loose a guarenteed airstrike and a 10% reload buff, but you will gain a 15% dmg decrease for all Iron Blood girls. Strassers time stop skill is garbage so that is no real loss.

    • @ProjectAtlasmodling
      @ProjectAtlasmodling 3 роки тому

      For general use zeppelin is better

    • @ProjectAtlasmodling
      @ProjectAtlasmodling 3 роки тому

      If your using bf-109g and duble dive

  • @maxxxenergy5239
    @maxxxenergy5239 3 роки тому

    And we should prepare for dd buff as well...

  • @pitybreaker6625
    @pitybreaker6625 3 роки тому

    Where are the russians though?

  • @hassathunter2464
    @hassathunter2464 3 роки тому +3

    Odd timing with DD changes and Shimakaze coming tommorrow. This may be outdated very fast 0_o

    • @peacechan4500
      @peacechan4500 3 роки тому +1

      Is the DD changes coming tomorrow?

    • @Just3c
      @Just3c  3 роки тому +5

      Based on the leak, DD won't make any real impact on meta. At most we get a few more usable DD but that's about it.

    • @hassathunter2464
      @hassathunter2464 3 роки тому

      @@peacechan4500 Yes

  • @aleksanderf4672
    @aleksanderf4672 3 роки тому +4

    Me maining pirely USN fleet: I reject your reality.

  • @IntrovertReality
    @IntrovertReality 3 роки тому

    Meta will shift tomorrow sooo why not just wait on this video