@@backpackpepelon3867 Unfortunately, the enemies are uncultured swine who cannot appreciate lolis and just blow up voluntarily. Not like us. We're men of culture.
I've been reading some guides on positions. You're prolly the first to explain this with details as to WHY certain slots are important. Instead of "do this do that, cuz we said so." Thank you so much for your guides, it's definitely enlightening to gain insight into the game mechanics with the hows and whys, rather than following the norms of fleet composition just because.
Honestly, some great tips. Sure, they are things that a person will figure out along the way. But so useful for a lot of people to get these tips. Just organizing the fleet optimally can make a big difference.
(sry for spam) Ano... Help Me.... Just3c and everyone I want ask something, i being stucked at farming gold gears, idk why some players have a lot lot lot of gold gears, while im feel very struggling to get them, i already try farm the blueprints which have drop rate a lot harder then 0.25% drop rate SSR ships and farming golds to buy T4 boxes, then what i got just same gold gears, gold cranes, and a flood of purple gears I already try browse in any forums, or guides, they still tell the same what i did -_- Now, i have no idea Please help me Your help can save my 2 years worth of 7-2 grind or gold gear blueprint mining, the world will grateful to the one tell the truth
@@blacktigerace6687 Although Gold Gears, for the most part are the best gear, purple gear is not to be underestimated. Also, just cause it's gold or purple doesn't make it the best choice. That being said, I have very few gold gears, all of which I got out of boxes. I have a total of 7 gold or higher gear that I am using on my main fleet and 3 of them were gear that I got through the Divergent Chessboard event, rainbow quint magnetic torps, gold Twin 203mm Main (SK C), and Gold Me-155a. 2 are Gold Catapults (from boxes), 1 Gold Twin 127mm (out of box), and a Gold Quad 40mm Bofors AA gun (out of box). Obviously I'm running a KMS fleet. However everything else is all Purple gear. To be honest farming for gold gear is just something I do when I'm bored or as a side result of doing other things, such as the Glorious event. I farmed enough parts for 2 Gold Quint torps while just running SP3 for the 55 runs I did. Already got Glorious as a drop and was sick of the map at that point. lol
Mychael Dark buying tech boxes isn’t a really good way to get gold gears in my opinion, it’s just way to costly for a low chances. Those people just grind real lots.
I get that this is supposed to be a HMs fleet, but in general you would also want at least 1 DD for the lower the chance of encountering an airstrike or beeing intercepted by an enemy fleet. It also increases evasion chance once you are facing an interception fleet
Also, equip an SG radar somewhere if you worry about ambushes. Boss fleets also care about evading ambushes - you don't want to be forced into a fight if you have to pay 70 oil per engagement, and you definitely don't want to lose the 20% damage buff.
For mob only imo. For boss, not much. Still a problem while trying for 2☆. But after that, its not. Bos fleet only attack twice max, and that if got ambushed while going for the boss. So even all CA, its still not a big issue.
@@intruder6628 thats actually a pretty good fleet although when you hit chapter 13, I would recommend finding sometimes replacements for your 1st fleet
Seems I've been following these rules without even knowing it, my fleet isn't really a good fleet since I base it on waifu material but I have been following these rules My fleet goes Akagi Hood Kaga Prinz eugen Laffey Helena As you can see I positioned laffey (the weakest ship) in the middle of the vanguard and positioned hood (the only backliner with a barrage) in the middle and they're all max enhanced
Can you spot three mistakes? 1. Multiple Barrage BB ( OH I can spot this) 2. Vanguard positioning mistakes ( Oh this too it"s obvious) 3.Not fully enchanced (How could I know lol)
I think there might be an unadressed issue... Skills such as smokescreen DO NOT STACK so using 2 vanguard ships with smokescreen is useless as 1 is sufficient. In the fleet, both Leander and Belfast had smokescreen, so, you were basically wasting an entire vanguard ship skill.
Whilst yes, identical skills don't stack, in this case Belfast's smokescreen is actually a different skill to the standard version, with different activation timings, so Belfast + Leander actually gives better smoke coverage than normal. Further, reading the smokescreen skill information suggests that it's the effects of the screen that don't stack rather than the chance of activation. If this is correct, then duplicate ships with normal smokescreens isn't entirely a waste, as you do increase the odds at least one going off in each activation window (so it's more a case of diminishing returns than outright wasting a skill), but I can't confirm the mechanics do match the description.
@@chomusuke4645 I'm afraid I don't get what point you're trying to make here. I never said anything about how useful a smokescreen may or may not be, just that multiples in this case should, by the wording of the skill, buff the effective proc rate and provide some value to having multiple ships with the skill in the same fleet (though, as I also said, it's diminishing returns, as the second copy of the skill isn't doing as much as the first). Also Lv10 Smokescreen is 40% increased evasion (Belfast's is 35%, with a 35% decrease in airstrike damage), so a bit more than 5%
@@RailwayFalcon i find the most cumbersome part of Azur Lane minmaxing is to get familiar with the skills of each ship, as well as what the max level of those skills really do.
It's a germanic name not a scotish one tough in this form, especially the burg part so Edin-burg is correct. Scots shouldn't have lost their independance and language if they want to keep their more celtic sounding names.
there are some complicated bit in number 2. About vanguard positioning, you also have to sort it by what you need too... since initial positioning affect torpedo launching too. the "riskiest" position is the one who launched torp first, despite its reload stat(if their torpedo are all reloaded, or its the begining of battle, when all torp are reloaded) So if you use team like example: Tanikaze-Kamikaze-Ayanami Tanikaze will release her torpedo first and last will be ayanami, despite ayanami has much better reload stats.
Very useful video as always 3c-sensei! I hope the lack of AC isn't affecting you too much. I just wanted to ask if you're gonna release the new event ships review before or after the update? Thanks a lot!
That's what I run too...... Colorado and Maryland on the sides, Saratoga in the middle and on the other fleet Nelson and Rodney on the sides, with Ark Royal in the middle. The thing is, the Big 7 Barrage kind of covers the screen in shells, and if you have the two rear positions covered, they'll overlap anyway in the middle (unlike Warspite or Hood). I did think of adding a third one and seeing what happens (I have West Virginia who I use on commissions and such), but the level discrepancy is so huge now, I'm afraid she'll just get killed off (the original ones are around Lvl 98-99 and sh's like.. 14 or something).
1. I guess I got this one right. Saw for myself that Nelson’s barrage does a wide spread attack that is most effective in the center, so I put her in the center 2. This is kind of second nature to me already. I always put a cruiser on the left and right side while I position a DD right in the middle of both Cruisers. DDs are (generally) the weakest type of ship in taking hits so they go in the center 3. Enhancing. I’m only doing this recently, so there’s this problem where Enty despite putting in 10 ships for enhancing, it doesn’t give any buffs. As for gear enhancing, I NEED MOAR PARTS (especially general parts)
if you follow this video you got most things settled, if you still struggle to beat a boss you should learn about optimizing gear and specific fleet compositions, which is all something he already has covered in other videos so go at it.
I see what you mean about the barrage skill. I've noticed my Zeppy miss half the screen when she fires (but I love it when Mutsu cleans up for me!). Thanks for the advice on the vanguard!
There are some other factors that need to be considered in fleet configuration. While I absolutely agree that a BB with a Barrage is most effective in the middle, generally you want the ship that needs the experience the most in the middle. Depending if they are able to do the most damage in a sortie, they can pull in double the XP to level quicker. In PvP, as best as possible you want the ship you can afford to lose first at flagship with a descending order to the last position (Enty's best spot). As with the swapping aspect for the vanguard point position, I treat flagship the same way on clearing fleets. But I find that the top position on vanguard is the one with the best survivability not the middle, with bottom (point) being the meat shield/dodge tank. And if anyone isn't using ship drops from grinding to boost the stats of ships....what ARE you doing with them? 🤔
Ya know, I honestly didn't know about the first two despite how long I've been playing the game, I guess that explains Nagato's barrage looking weird when she fired it off on the 10-2 boss, LOL, I'll have to be sure to remember all of this.
Thank you so much! I had no idea about either the barrage thing or the idea that the leftmost vanguard takes the most damage. I assumed the center would be for the lead ship and didn't really think about it.
My FP on Warspite retrofit is now 600 in total for great reason and Akagi and Kaga is over 500.... and believe me.... it can tore any ships apart even the most HP BBs... plus this combo is great to wipe out any Enterprise players.... as Type 1 and Super heavy shells will do a lot of damage on Enty while Akagi and Kaga will came afterwards and clean her up... bring San Diego with you if you want to protect the Enty... but it will only just reduce the damage slightly.... and you still cannot saved her as by the time Aircraft finish attacks... Warspite should be ready to fire a full salvo... And if Enty is survived by RNGs and Miracle... most Warspite Akagi Kaga combo will bring San Diego with them.... just incase if Enty survived....
I run: 1.Takao - Tank / Burst Dmg (AP/HP) 2. Javelin(R) - Eva Boost / DPS (HP/AP) 3. Helena - Debuff / DPS (FULL HP) 1. Enterprise 2. Erebus 3. Tennessee This team costs 60+ oil but it sees me through alot of content solo while i play around with other units and team compositions.
I run Tirpiz, Akashi, Deutchland, Karlsruhe(R) and Leipzig for mobs (54 oil) and Nagato, Amagi, Yuudachi and Ayanami(R) (49 oil) for bosses. Farming Jintsuu in 10-4 with this.. And mob fleet is so huge cos I'm also farming exp for Roon, but honestly Phoenix would be enough solo for mob fleet.
Oh damn, I put hood in the wrong spot too. I usually put my first fleet's BBs in the left and right spots so their secondaries can protect the carrier in the middle from suicide boats
Oh wow, I've been playing since Neptune Colab... I did know that the vanguar middle spot was a safe spot for ships like Leander, but I didn't "notice" the left spot taking more damage so to say haha. Cheers for this mate.
I got 1&2, but I was overthinking 3 and thought that was fleet synergy, having both Belfast and Leander in the same fleet not being optimal because they both use smokescreen which don't stack with each other. As for enhancing ships, always doing that, to the point where I'm max enhancing ships I've not even sortied yet. Bit harder to max out gear though, always low on main gun parts, but swimming in torpedo/aircraft parts, and I ONLY ever do the Firepower Escort Mission daily.
I love how in my PvP fleet, my Suffolk can higher FP than an actual BBs with +70% FP buff. 15% from QE, 15% from Leander, and 40% from her skill. And that's even without a golden Eugen gun and double FC set up
Suffolk stupidly good for manual, not so much in auto, since her gun traverse are low. I found that she rack more mvp with double loader set instead of double FC. But I dont use that set for high eva bosses.
@@PrayToRNGesus keep in mind that she's just a cheap glass cannon. if you have roon, or azuma(coming soon). you'll know what's a glass cannon. {thicc armored glass cannon}
@@PrayToRNGesus Since I ran Beaver Tag and Boiler on her to bump her evasion to CL level, she can last quite a while especially with Pearl Tears. I also ran double smokescreen(Belfast+Leander) with further boost the evasion.
ive have done most of these right, like having the barrages ship in the middle and other stuff, but that the left vanguard spot take most dmg, that i didnt know, and will be corrected from now on. thanks for that little tips XD
PVP tips: Juneau is a must, always put her in the left side of vanguard fleet. + Eldridge for maximum cancer in PVP. Best counter for IJN nakaga fleet, i hate that fleet obliterates almost any fleet. Good game!
Another tip: use Illustrious if you use Eldridge. Her barrier skill still triggers Eldridge's skill even when taking hits. In fact, when the barrier is active, your vanguard will be guaranteed to take hits with no miss at 0 damage.
PVP tip (from former top 50) >If you got Nakaga. Akagi should wearing the highest suicidal damage planes (F4U cosair or the golden hell cat,golden BDT destroyer and golden barracuda). then Kaga should wear the (any planes fighter with heavy bombs. hell diver and barracuda). the reason for this is that you can damage the backline of the fleet much harder and possibly sank them right away. >Belfast is your loyal maid. she's the best light cruiser for pvp. thicc and her smokescreen makes your vanguard alive for another rounds >If you got Yukikaze (the great nanoda). consider yourself lucky. this is the only DD i can recommend in the era of the loli hunter, Aurora. Yukikaze can tank big dmages even from enterprise and she's fast as af. equip her with broilers so that she will be the on holding the line if your nakaga's vanguard fall. >Namahiryuu counter using nakaga (if it is not oathed...or only the backline and not the vanguard) >Main changes: Akagi (should be using BDT destroyer) Nagato: 450mm gun,+10 ..this is for wrecking hiryuu after she go blue >Vanguard changes: Sirius (get her tanky. bring her at the front, you will know why). Jesus chan(up) Yukikaze (middle) . be sure yuki got the broiler and the beaver thingy. the success rate of this depends how tough your vanguard is to hold the other's vanguard. our goal here is to waste jesus chan's enemy and hiryuu blue skill.. but if the enemy got jintsuu. do not fight..let's wait for better counter (HMS with retrofitted warspite) >if you want an effective nakaga until top 50 >main: Nakaga (oath just makes them tougher..but strenght..ehh). Nagato (410mm is the best for her) >vanguard: Aurora (do not remove her unless its namahiryu..you need sirius) , Yukikaze (do not remove her) , Belfast (can be change for jesus chan or jintsuu) >Lastly, enjoy the pvp. defensive team doesn't have any contribution xD (although they might be needed for top 50-10). just aim the highest rank target to get high points Edit: not 410mm. It should be 406mm
My favorite setup is having both Lexington and Saratoga at the top and bottom with Artillery Cover upgraded. That way they can spam shots from the back plus my battleship in the middle.
if a skill of a vanguard ship description says "if positioned in the leftmost position" is it from our perspective looking at the screen, or is it from the flag ship perspective?
For the first mistake, I don't really notice this issue. Maybe they changed how barrages work? Cause when I put my battleships on the top and bottom the barrages still go in the center. With the 2nd one..yeah I kinda messed up there. The 3rd one is more of I can't get enough ships to enhance with. Thanks though.
On earlier maps yes, due to enemies have low accuracy, Yuki is actually more tanky than most ships. On later map (ch10+) i suggest putting her in middle or right.
For the first mistake, u said i only need to use one barrage in one fleet but I don't have other 5* waifu, is it worth it to put 4* waifu instead of 2 barrages 5* in a fleet?
I know this is a necro, but I wanted to answer on the off-chance that you're still looking for clarification on this. When a Vanguard skill specifies positioning, the "frontmost" is on the left side in the formation editor and the "rearmost" is the right side.
that was a illuminating video. I always had problems with the vanguard. Still, in my fleet usually run in the KMS 2 destroyers (Z23 and Z1) + Prinz and in the IJN one 3 destroyers (Ayanami, Yuudachi, Yukikaze) in those orders. Should I switch something?
You can switch yuudachi with kawakaze/Jintsuu to make a more synergize fleet. If you want to use prinz, i recommend to use evasive gears for her like beaver badge, or the Hydraulic steering gear.
@@Eclin missing those two IJN... About Prinz, she's my top tank so dunno about evasion... Was waiting to get Roon to make a vanguard of Roon, Leiz and Prinz
tbh I've been playing the game since English servers launched and to this day i mostly use fleets that consist of ships i like the most regardless if there's a team synergy or not.
Ok but I don't understand i'm just starting and when I change my team and go in a battle the team is not changing for some stupid reason and I really need an answer to fix this
Btw when it comes to enhancing ships does it matter what type of extra shipfu you use when enhancing or can you use any extra's? I enhanced Z23 (my starter) earlier and she gained stats in everything that could be raised from pretty much any fodder used.
Been swaping mob fleet vanguard place during battle like crazy lately due to higher lvl enemy. My vanguard mutsuki/kisaragi/uzuki are lvl75, while battling in 8-4 🤣. Good thing I got vestal/Uni/hood in the back, even put pearls tear for mutsuki just in case.
Any ship is viable with the right care and gear. Make sure to keep Nelson in the middle for her super strong barrage. Also keep a CL/DD in the left most slot do they can take out suicide ships easily. Also this is personsl preference but I would only use one CA(in your case Atago/Prinz Eugen) in your fleet because 2 or more feels super sluggish
Vitor Diniz honestly, up to about CH 8 or so, any ship with good equips will do. CH 8 and beyond is where you'll start running into problems if certain aspects arent good enough. More experienced players may even extend this to CH 10, but CH 10 is as high as ive gotten... I'm still working on getting my main fleets fully kitted out and leveled.
Just replace pow with other BB if you using that setup, the increase in stat with just 2 eagle not really worth it. And if you want to use CA make sure equip them with +eva aux
Good guide as always.BTW, curious on your criteria for ships from good, usable, and collectible like what you do on event videos. Any special thought process on that?
Good should be able to go up to W12 of this game at red danger lvl Usable will get you there with a bit of struggle, inefficiently, or carried by others Collectible will do anything W9 below and maybe W10-W11 with level advantage or safe danger level (and still with struggle)
pausing at 0:35 ehh, Hood should be in the center to make the best use of her barrage ability. Leander(?) isn't very tanky and is mostly there for FP bonus, needs to be in the middle protected position on the Vanguard. Belfast being a higher level means she's got more HP to tank with and should be out in front not in the back. Low vanguard fleetpower suggests low quality equipment (Mine's at 12231 with Bel/Edin/Sirius) That's 4. Let's see how I did.
noice!
Yas
Hi intern-kun
when is alterprise event?
@@manhphuc4335 words out of my mouth
:mutsukistare:
#1 not basing your fleet entirely on waifu factors.
Tetemovies4 shouldn’t that the only reason you base your fleet on?
Uhmm uhmm
Seems like played that game wrong for years!
Waifu > meta
@@Q9Teen Who is your Waifu?
Gotta be hardcore. Fight with 2 bulins on your fleet.
You're forgetting the most common. Assembling a fleet base on looks. My loli fleet is doing nothing but fire moe on enemies.
Yay, my people 😁.
@@backpackpepelon3867 Unfortunately, the enemies are uncultured swine who cannot appreciate lolis and just blow up voluntarily.
Not like us. We're men of culture.
That is da way!
Am I the only one with a full catgirl fleet?
Depends on the loli fleet you use like me with a full loli destroyer vanguard
Common mistake: Full loli fleet with Ark Royal. For obvious reasons.
He sacrificing the loli
found them many times at exercise, poor loli
MiTsuki Desu on one hand, it’s an easy win. On the other hand, it’s like kicking puppies, you feel bad after doing it.
@@Masterchiefkf3 daaamn that is so fKing true
Im gonna use this for my exercise defense fleet
I've been reading some guides on positions. You're prolly the first to explain this with details as to WHY certain slots are important. Instead of "do this do that, cuz we said so."
Thank you so much for your guides, it's definitely enlightening to gain insight into the game mechanics with the hows and whys, rather than following the norms of fleet composition just because.
That moment when you didn't do any of the mistakes mentioned yet you still get destroyed by boss
it means you ain't grinding enough gold frame equipments go grind like crazy soldier!!!
+6 eq is my limit dammit!!!! T-T
@@bobo-bk3ls U Need golf gear then. Not purple or blue gear
@@bobo-bk3ls U need gold gear then. Not purple or blue gear
@@DBT1007 What is this golf gear
Honestly, some great tips. Sure, they are things that a person will figure out along the way. But so useful for a lot of people to get these tips. Just organizing the fleet optimally can make a big difference.
Agree.
Great tips especially for beginners
(sry for spam)
Ano...
Help Me....
Just3c and everyone
I want ask something, i being stucked at farming gold gears, idk why some players have a lot lot lot of gold gears, while im feel very struggling to get them, i already try farm the blueprints which have drop rate a lot harder then 0.25% drop rate SSR ships and farming golds to buy T4 boxes, then what i got just same gold gears, gold cranes, and a flood of purple gears
I already try browse in any forums, or guides, they still tell the same what i did -_-
Now, i have no idea
Please help me
Your help can save my 2 years worth of 7-2 grind or gold gear blueprint mining, the world will grateful to the one tell the truth
@@blacktigerace6687 is quicker to save gold and buy boxes from store.
@@blacktigerace6687 Although Gold Gears, for the most part are the best gear, purple gear is not to be underestimated. Also, just cause it's gold or purple doesn't make it the best choice. That being said, I have very few gold gears, all of which I got out of boxes. I have a total of 7 gold or higher gear that I am using on my main fleet and 3 of them were gear that I got through the Divergent Chessboard event, rainbow quint magnetic torps, gold Twin 203mm Main (SK C), and Gold Me-155a. 2 are Gold Catapults (from boxes), 1 Gold Twin 127mm (out of box), and a Gold Quad 40mm Bofors AA gun (out of box). Obviously I'm running a KMS fleet. However everything else is all Purple gear. To be honest farming for gold gear is just something I do when I'm bored or as a side result of doing other things, such as the Glorious event. I farmed enough parts for 2 Gold Quint torps while just running SP3 for the 55 runs I did. Already got Glorious as a drop and was sick of the map at that point. lol
Mychael Dark buying tech boxes isn’t a really good way to get gold gears in my opinion, it’s just way to costly for a low chances. Those people just grind real lots.
I get that this is supposed to be a HMs fleet, but in general you would also want at least 1 DD for the lower the chance of encountering an airstrike or beeing intercepted by an enemy fleet. It also increases evasion chance once you are facing an interception fleet
Not me tho i use full light cruisers, i only use DDs on my mob fleet
Also, equip an SG radar somewhere if you worry about ambushes. Boss fleets also care about evading ambushes - you don't want to be forced into a fight if you have to pay 70 oil per engagement, and you definitely don't want to lose the 20% damage buff.
@@stug6974 and that SG radar have to be gold to be really effective in higher maps since higher maps ambush chance is high
For mob only imo. For boss, not much. Still a problem while trying for 2☆. But after that, its not. Bos fleet only attack twice max, and that if got ambushed while going for the boss. So even all CA, its still not a big issue.
yeah uhhhh, I'd rather not, DD don't go well with world 12, and all of my BB have gold SG radar so I'm not that worry about it
I literally just choose my favorite girls :(
Sorry but in later chapters, the game is not going to care about your waifus and your going to be forced to used stronger ships~
@@monopurple I'm already in chapter 12-3 and all I have been doing is use my waifu fleet lol.
I don't know why I'm surviving
@@intruder6628 prob because your using meta waifus
@@monopurple my 1st fleet (I like to call it my ace fleet) compose of:
Main: Long island (retrofit) lvl 109
Taihou (flagship) lvl 112
Vanguard:
Atago (1st tank position) lvl 118
Laffey (middle (retrofit)) lvl 115
Prinz Eugen (last in the line) lvl 113
2nd fleet:
Main:
Essex (left side) lvl 107
Richelieu (flagship) lvl 117
Illustrious (right side) lvl 111
Vanguard:
Algerie ( forgot the right spelling sorry 😅😅) lvl 115
Jeanne d'arc (middle) lvl 113
Portland (retrofit (last on the line)) lvl 114
@@intruder6628 thats actually a pretty good fleet
although when you hit chapter 13, I would recommend finding sometimes replacements for your 1st fleet
Seems I've been following these rules without even knowing it, my fleet isn't really a good fleet since I base it on waifu material but I have been following these rules
My fleet goes
Akagi Hood Kaga
Prinz eugen Laffey Helena
As you can see I positioned laffey (the weakest ship) in the middle of the vanguard and positioned hood (the only backliner with a barrage) in the middle and they're all max enhanced
Can you spot three mistakes?
1. Multiple Barrage BB ( OH I can spot this)
2. Vanguard positioning mistakes
( Oh this too it"s obvious)
3.Not fully enchanced
(How could I know lol)
I think there might be an unadressed issue... Skills such as smokescreen DO NOT STACK so using 2 vanguard ships with smokescreen is useless as 1 is sufficient. In the fleet, both Leander and Belfast had smokescreen, so, you were basically wasting an entire vanguard ship skill.
Whilst yes, identical skills don't stack, in this case Belfast's smokescreen is actually a different skill to the standard version, with different activation timings, so Belfast + Leander actually gives better smoke coverage than normal.
Further, reading the smokescreen skill information suggests that it's the effects of the screen that don't stack rather than the chance of activation. If this is correct, then duplicate ships with normal smokescreens isn't entirely a waste, as you do increase the odds at least one going off in each activation window (so it's more a case of diminishing returns than outright wasting a skill), but I can't confirm the mechanics do match the description.
@@RailwayFalcon Bruh it's 5 percent evasion, totally gonna make a big difference
@@chomusuke4645 I'm afraid I don't get what point you're trying to make here. I never said anything about how useful a smokescreen may or may not be, just that multiples in this case should, by the wording of the skill, buff the effective proc rate and provide some value to having multiple ships with the skill in the same fleet (though, as I also said, it's diminishing returns, as the second copy of the skill isn't doing as much as the first).
Also Lv10 Smokescreen is 40% increased evasion (Belfast's is 35%, with a 35% decrease in airstrike damage), so a bit more than 5%
@@RailwayFalcon It's not even evasion, it's evasion rate. That is even better.
@@RailwayFalcon i find the most cumbersome part of Azur Lane minmaxing is to get familiar with the skills of each ship, as well as what the max level of those skills really do.
Level 92 here only putting favourite ship without thinking the composition. I guess I'm a bad commander
I have 3 Carriers, you're still a better commander than me.
hahha, i put 3 barrage. gotta do EXPLOSION!!!!!!
4:02 alterprise chibi? Is she released?!
No , but her chibi is probably leaked early like Bismarck before or made by fans
@@bsm3891 nice
alterprise? (alternate enterprise I get it) but i've always refered to her as "dark side enterprise"
@@4T3hM4kr0n Yeah people called her alterprise
Alterprise show off her skills at fallen wings event
"Edin-burg"
I can hear the scots screaming.
It's Edin-Burrow or Edin-burra btw :P
If that's bothering you, you should stay faaaar far away from ShotgunShogun's channel. xD
It's a germanic name not a scotish one tough in this form, especially the burg part so Edin-burg is correct. Scots shouldn't have lost their independance and language if they want to keep their more celtic sounding names.
So is Edin-burg the right spelling in GB?
@@nicz7694 it's spelled edinburgh, but pronounced edin-burrow or edin-burra
@@kyuven Thanks, now i learned something new today :D
there are some complicated bit in number 2.
About vanguard positioning, you also have to sort it by what you need too... since initial positioning affect torpedo launching too. the "riskiest" position is the one who launched torp first, despite its reload stat(if their torpedo are all reloaded, or its the begining of battle, when all torp are reloaded)
So if you use team like example:
Tanikaze-Kamikaze-Ayanami
Tanikaze will release her torpedo first and last will be ayanami, despite ayanami has much better reload stats.
the moment you saw your Neptune farming fleet formation is exactly like the layout with mistakes
But.. *_There's no mistakes for choosing waifus?!_*
Very useful video as always 3c-sensei! I hope the lack of AC isn't affecting you too much.
I just wanted to ask if you're gonna release the new event ships review before or after the update?
Thanks a lot!
i will try..
Just3c i enjoy your videos and everything you do, i hope the move is going great so far! don’t push yourself 🥰
Just3c being base 3c again... That mean being awesome
"Only run 1 barrage type battleship in the fleet"
Me : put big seven on sides *thinking
you need to run 3 big sevens for the 777 jackpot
@@rovvy221 Damn, I'm just hoping I'll get the 3rd monitor for cheap jackpot like that..
That's what I run too...... Colorado and Maryland on the sides, Saratoga in the middle and on the other fleet Nelson and Rodney on the sides, with Ark Royal in the middle.
The thing is, the Big 7 Barrage kind of covers the screen in shells, and if you have the two rear positions covered, they'll overlap anyway in the middle (unlike Warspite or Hood).
I did think of adding a third one and seeing what happens (I have West Virginia who I use on commissions and such), but the level discrepancy is so huge now, I'm afraid she'll just get killed off (the original ones are around Lvl 98-99 and sh's like.. 14 or something).
Big seven go brrr
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0:58 Huh I just added my Bismarck to Mid because she looked cool (well that and because of her skills)
another common mistake, buy purple boxes and upgrade on ineffective equips.
You shouldn't buy boxes, period. You need to save that money to craft and upgrade gear that's really worth it, namely from research.
1. I guess I got this one right. Saw for myself that Nelson’s barrage does a wide spread attack that is most effective in the center, so I put her in the center
2. This is kind of second nature to me already. I always put a cruiser on the left and right side while I position a DD right in the middle of both Cruisers. DDs are (generally) the weakest type of ship in taking hits so they go in the center
3. Enhancing. I’m only doing this recently, so there’s this problem where Enty despite putting in 10 ships for enhancing, it doesn’t give any buffs. As for gear enhancing, I NEED MOAR PARTS (especially general parts)
if you follow this video you got most things settled, if you still struggle to beat a boss you should learn about optimizing gear and specific fleet compositions, which is all something he already has covered in other videos so go at it.
Great video! I honestly didn't know that the weakest Vanguard spot is on the left. So thanks for that!
I see what you mean about the barrage skill. I've noticed my Zeppy miss half the screen when she fires (but I love it when Mutsu cleans up for me!).
Thanks for the advice on the vanguard!
i learned this the hard way, thanks for teaching the newbies boi
Where do you find the chibi art for the ships? I noticed you have some non standard poses/faces.
he extracts them directly from the game files
@@krixtorei I'd like to see a video on that I've used various apk depackers and models for the ships have always been hidden away.
I can't bring myself to switch out my oathed ships
There are some other factors that need to be considered in fleet configuration. While I absolutely agree that a BB with a Barrage is most effective in the middle, generally you want the ship that needs the experience the most in the middle. Depending if they are able to do the most damage in a sortie, they can pull in double the XP to level quicker. In PvP, as best as possible you want the ship you can afford to lose first at flagship with a descending order to the last position (Enty's best spot). As with the swapping aspect for the vanguard point position, I treat flagship the same way on clearing fleets. But I find that the top position on vanguard is the one with the best survivability not the middle, with bottom (point) being the meat shield/dodge tank. And if anyone isn't using ship drops from grinding to boost the stats of ships....what ARE you doing with them? 🤔
I’ve been playing the game for about a year and this video actually helped me, thank you very much.
Wow, this will help me a lot, been playing for 5 days now and this tips are what I'm looking for. Ty.
Having a voiceover on your videos like this is nice! Good info in this video too.
Yess. Another great awesome guide!!
Great use of voice over and text
Ya know, I honestly didn't know about the first two despite how long I've been playing the game, I guess that explains Nagato's barrage looking weird when she fired it off on the 10-2 boss, LOL, I'll have to be sure to remember all of this.
Thank you so much! I had no idea about either the barrage thing or the idea that the leftmost vanguard takes the most damage. I assumed the center would be for the lead ship and didn't really think about it.
My FP on Warspite retrofit is now 600 in total for great reason and Akagi and Kaga is over 500.... and believe me.... it can tore any ships apart even the most HP BBs... plus this combo is great to wipe out any Enterprise players.... as Type 1 and Super heavy shells will do a lot of damage on Enty while Akagi and Kaga will came afterwards and clean her up... bring San Diego with you if you want to protect the Enty... but it will only just reduce the damage slightly.... and you still cannot saved her as by the time Aircraft finish attacks... Warspite should be ready to fire a full salvo...
And if Enty is survived by RNGs and Miracle... most Warspite Akagi Kaga combo will bring San Diego with them.... just incase if Enty survived....
Wow thx learned so much! Usually I put the weakest one at the part where it eats all of the attacks but no I was supposed to put it somewhere else!
I run:
1.Takao - Tank / Burst Dmg (AP/HP)
2. Javelin(R) - Eva Boost / DPS (HP/AP)
3. Helena - Debuff / DPS (FULL HP)
1. Enterprise
2. Erebus
3. Tennessee
This team costs 60+ oil but it sees me through alot of content solo while i play around with other units and team compositions.
I run Tirpiz, Akashi, Deutchland, Karlsruhe(R) and Leipzig for mobs (54 oil) and Nagato, Amagi, Yuudachi and Ayanami(R) (49 oil) for bosses.
Farming Jintsuu in 10-4 with this.. And mob fleet is so huge cos I'm also farming exp for Roon, but honestly Phoenix would be enough solo for mob fleet.
Oh damn, I put hood in the wrong spot too. I usually put my first fleet's BBs in the left and right spots so their secondaries can protect the carrier in the middle from suicide boats
Very nice guide! Thanks a lot =)
Oh wow, I've been playing since Neptune Colab... I did know that the vanguar middle spot was a safe spot for ships like Leander, but I didn't "notice" the left spot taking more damage so to say haha. Cheers for this mate.
This really helpful thank you. I was just putting my ships just anywhere
Never knew something like that, wanna see more helpfully videos!
The information on positioning was useful, thank you.
I got 1&2, but I was overthinking 3 and thought that was fleet synergy, having both Belfast and Leander in the same fleet not being optimal because they both use smokescreen which don't stack with each other. As for enhancing ships, always doing that, to the point where I'm max enhancing ships I've not even sortied yet. Bit harder to max out gear though, always low on main gun parts, but swimming in torpedo/aircraft parts, and I ONLY ever do the Firepower Escort Mission daily.
Correct me if im wrong, but in the first fleet composition QE's skill wont proc if she's not the flagship right?
i wonder about that to. it kind of useless to brought her in other places
Thank you, your videos are always so informative, much love
I love how in my PvP fleet, my Suffolk can higher FP than an actual BBs with +70% FP buff.
15% from QE, 15% from Leander, and 40% from her skill. And that's even without a golden Eugen gun and double FC set up
IJN best buff nation uwu
But keep in mind she a glass cannon and will most likely get demolished in less than 45 sec
Suffolk stupidly good for manual, not so much in auto, since her gun traverse are low. I found that she rack more mvp with double loader set instead of double FC. But I dont use that set for high eva bosses.
@@PrayToRNGesus keep in mind that she's just a cheap glass cannon. if you have roon, or azuma(coming soon). you'll know what's a glass cannon. {thicc armored glass cannon}
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Since I ran Beaver Tag and Boiler on her to bump her evasion to CL level, she can last quite a while especially with Pearl Tears.
I also ran double smokescreen(Belfast+Leander) with further boost the evasion.
nice one man i never card about vanguard position b4, i though all position was the same. thank you very much
ive have done most of these right, like having the barrages ship in the middle and other stuff, but that the left vanguard spot take most dmg, that i didnt know, and will be corrected from now on. thanks for that little tips XD
Nothing beats a cup of coffee and just3C's tips xD
At some point, not using at least one support/healing ship is also not good in the late game.
Thanks for the guide.
First voiced video for me, good move. Thx for the great tips m8. 👍
Thanks for the video! Helped me a lot!
I rarely use full fleet compo, its always
1 (F) BB , 1 CV(L) or 2 CV(L)s for Main and 2DDs or 1 CL and 1 CA for Vanguard.
PVP tips: Juneau is a must, always put her in the left side of vanguard fleet. + Eldridge for maximum cancer in PVP. Best counter for IJN nakaga fleet, i hate that fleet obliterates almost any fleet. Good game!
Belfast makes Nakaga a joke.
Another tip: use Illustrious if you use Eldridge. Her barrier skill still triggers Eldridge's skill even when taking hits.
In fact, when the barrier is active, your vanguard will be guaranteed to take hits with no miss at 0 damage.
PVP tip (from former top 50)
>If you got Nakaga. Akagi should wearing the highest suicidal damage planes (F4U cosair or the golden hell cat,golden BDT destroyer and golden barracuda). then Kaga should wear the (any planes fighter with heavy bombs. hell diver and barracuda). the reason for this is that you can damage the backline of the fleet much harder and possibly sank them right away.
>Belfast is your loyal maid. she's the best light cruiser for pvp. thicc and her smokescreen makes your vanguard alive for another rounds
>If you got Yukikaze (the great nanoda). consider yourself lucky. this is the only DD i can recommend in the era of the loli hunter, Aurora. Yukikaze can tank big dmages even from enterprise and she's fast as af. equip her with broilers so that she will be the on holding the line if your nakaga's vanguard fall.
>Namahiryuu counter using nakaga (if it is not oathed...or only the backline and not the vanguard)
>Main changes: Akagi (should be using BDT destroyer) Nagato: 450mm gun,+10 ..this is for wrecking hiryuu after she go blue
>Vanguard changes: Sirius (get her tanky. bring her at the front, you will know why). Jesus chan(up) Yukikaze (middle) . be sure yuki got the broiler and the beaver thingy.
the success rate of this depends how tough your vanguard is to hold the other's vanguard. our goal here is to waste jesus chan's enemy and hiryuu blue skill.. but if the enemy got jintsuu. do not fight..let's wait for better counter (HMS with retrofitted warspite)
>if you want an effective nakaga until top 50
>main: Nakaga (oath just makes them tougher..but strenght..ehh). Nagato (410mm is the best for her)
>vanguard: Aurora (do not remove her unless its namahiryu..you need sirius) , Yukikaze (do not remove her) , Belfast (can be change for jesus chan or jintsuu)
>Lastly, enjoy the pvp. defensive team doesn't have any contribution xD (although they might be needed for top 50-10). just aim the highest rank target to get high points
Edit: not 410mm. It should be 406mm
eldrigde stop being cancer since nagato, and aurora. she can't even stand 20 seconds anymore.
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My favorite setup is having both Lexington and Saratoga at the top and bottom with Artillery Cover upgraded. That way they can spam shots from the back plus my battleship in the middle.
if a skill of a vanguard ship description says "if positioned in the leftmost position"
is it from our perspective looking at the screen, or is it from the flag ship perspective?
good tip! I never know that vanguard position effect damage taken before.
Do you have tips for advance formations like 1 in the back and 2 on the vanguard?
On mistake #1 I dident notice this because I had hood in the middle because she had the most hp to be a flagship
What about the viability of assembling a nation fleet (Eagle / Sakura / Royal...) ?
For the first mistake, I don't really notice this issue. Maybe they changed how barrages work? Cause when I put my battleships on the top and bottom the barrages still go in the center. With the 2nd one..yeah I kinda messed up there. The 3rd one is more of I can't get enough ships to enhance with. Thanks though.
I just started a couple days ago and have been doing all of these... it makes so much sense now lol
thk man for the advice. still learning how to play this game in the best way
if you're willing to learn how to play this game "correctly", then do yourself a favor and stay away from this channel
I put shinano in middle because of her barrage but hood is next to her, should i switch or keep postition
It's not a mistake if you put logic to it
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about vanguard positioning, is it okay to put yukikaze in the left side? since she had a defence skill but she was a destroyer tho
On earlier maps yes, due to enemies have low accuracy, Yuki is actually more tanky than most ships. On later map (ch10+) i suggest putting her in middle or right.
ahh i c, so thats why everyone said ch10+ was a hell. ty for ur tips
I kinda passively built my fleets correctly apparently >.>
It’s nice to know this information for future fleet building and experimenting ^~^
For the first mistake, u said i only need to use one barrage in one fleet but I don't have other 5* waifu, is it worth it to put 4* waifu instead of 2 barrages 5* in a fleet?
Nice! I learned a lot from this!
Tbh it was surprisingly helpful, thank you.
noob question! so bremerton to be able to proc her defense skill must be on the left spot? or where is the frontmost?
I know this is a necro, but I wanted to answer on the off-chance that you're still looking for clarification on this.
When a Vanguard skill specifies positioning, the "frontmost" is on the left side in the formation editor and the "rearmost" is the right side.
I was making exatly same mistake 1 in my pvp fleet... but because I forgot that Queen Elizabeth skill not need be the Flagship...
Most BB barrages in pvp are single target nuke, so positioning doesn't matter (you put them in front of backline enemy you wanna kill first)
that was a illuminating video. I always had problems with the vanguard. Still, in my fleet usually run in the KMS 2 destroyers (Z23 and Z1) + Prinz and in the IJN one 3 destroyers (Ayanami, Yuudachi, Yukikaze) in those orders. Should I switch something?
You can switch yuudachi with kawakaze/Jintsuu to make a more synergize fleet. If you want to use prinz, i recommend to use evasive gears for her like beaver badge, or the Hydraulic steering gear.
@@Eclin missing those two IJN... About Prinz, she's my top tank so dunno about evasion... Was waiting to get Roon to make a vanguard of Roon, Leiz and Prinz
Ey man who is the best? Double 410 mm? Or triple 306 mm?
When it comes to vanguard's, I always put the ship with the most FP on the side, mainly because I base the hierarchy of gear on FP
I'm giving you a like, just for the fact you are finally voicing your videos.
So I have two with barrages should I put my lower level hood or my higher level king george
Wait a second... Are you talking? Wow, I prepared to read actually :D
Thanks for that INFO
Barrage can be targeted if you hold the finger on the skill so you can do what you want.
tbh I've been playing the game since English servers launched and to this day i mostly use fleets that consist of ships i like the most regardless if there's a team synergy or not.
first video i found and i insta sub my dude, thanks for the info!!!!
Helpful, very grateful
Helpful as always, thanks!
Ok but I don't understand i'm just starting and when I change my team and go in a battle the team is not changing for some stupid reason and I really need an answer to fix this
Btw when it comes to enhancing ships does it matter what type of extra shipfu you use when enhancing or can you use any extra's? I enhanced Z23 (my starter) earlier and she gained stats in everything that could be raised from pretty much any fodder used.
Been swaping mob fleet vanguard place during battle like crazy lately due to higher lvl enemy. My vanguard mutsuki/kisaragi/uzuki are lvl75, while battling in 8-4 🤣. Good thing I got vestal/Uni/hood in the back, even put pearls tear for mutsuki just in case.
i would say Vestal to Akasi and uni to shouhou retro
That's actually a really helpful tutorial, thanks! I'm gonna go now and rearrange my fleet.
Video : *recommends to only have 1 barrage type battleship*
My fleet: Washington, Nagato, and Hood .
put all of them in the middle, on the top of each other :D
How would this be?
MAIN
Top- saratoga
Flag- warspait
Bottom- lexintgon
VANGUARD
Rigth- atago
Middle- prinz Eugen
Left- takao
Prince of wales,Enterprise,Nelson
Atago,laffey/belfast,Prinz Eugen
Is that fleet good enough in the start?(i'm lvl 40)
Any ship is viable with the right care and gear. Make sure to keep Nelson in the middle for her super strong barrage. Also keep a CL/DD in the left most slot do they can take out suicide ships easily. Also this is personsl preference but I would only use one CA(in your case Atago/Prinz Eugen) in your fleet because 2 or more feels super sluggish
Vitor Diniz honestly, up to about CH 8 or so, any ship with good equips will do. CH 8 and beyond is where you'll start running into problems if certain aspects arent good enough. More experienced players may even extend this to CH 10, but CH 10 is as high as ive gotten... I'm still working on getting my main fleets fully kitted out and leveled.
@@krysle3337 k,thank you :)
@@imapopo2924 okay, then i'll need to get higher rank gear xd
Just replace pow with other BB if you using that setup, the increase in stat with just 2 eagle not really worth it. And if you want to use CA make sure equip them with +eva aux
Yeh! narration means i can listen while relaxing.
Good guide as always.BTW, curious on your criteria for ships from good, usable, and collectible like what you do on event videos. Any special thought process on that?
Good should be able to go up to W12 of this game at red danger lvl
Usable will get you there with a bit of struggle, inefficiently, or carried by others
Collectible will do anything W9 below and maybe W10-W11 with level advantage or safe danger level (and still with struggle)
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ehh, Hood should be in the center to make the best use of her barrage ability. Leander(?) isn't very tanky and is mostly there for FP bonus, needs to be in the middle protected position on the Vanguard. Belfast being a higher level means she's got more HP to tank with and should be out in front not in the back. Low vanguard fleetpower suggests low quality equipment (Mine's at 12231 with Bel/Edin/Sirius)
That's 4. Let's see how I did.
Ok my no.2-3 where combined, other than that, proud of myself for getting the basics right.
My main fleet:
Flagship Hood
Left Enterprise
Right Illustrious
Midship Z23
Left Belfast
Right Prinz Eugen
lmao
Flag Bismarck
Left Dunkerque
Right Enterprise
Mid Vanguard Z23 Retro
Left Vanguard Prinz Eugen
Right Vanguard Karlsruhe Retro