MIRENLO AL NEGRO ESE QUE SE HACE PASAR X HOMOSEXUAL DE LIAN !! QUE LE TRAJO DROGA Y NO ESTA PRESO TODAVIA POR TRAERLE DROGA ?? ES NARCO ESTE NEGRO CON CARA DE PERUANO ??? ES FEO POR DONDE LO MIREN Y LIAM PAIM ES UN HERMOSO MUCHACHO QUE SE CONFIO EN ESTOS DELINCUENTES !! QUE ESPERO QUE DE SU PAIS TRAIGAN TAMBIEN SUS INVESTIGADORES SCOTLANYAR !! YA NOSE SI EXISTEN !! JAJAJA !!
Here in Argentina, everything is usually investigated, even if it seems unnecessary (We've seen it in several cases, especially those that are high-profile). And there's a strong 'drive' for international validation. So, I don’t find it strange that they are investigating so much, although I have the feeling that the investigation isn't really focused on Liam’s death, but rather on tracking down drug movements. It's something they want to eliminate from the country before it becomes a bigger problem.
Such a devastating loss. So much seems so off. A lot doesn't make sense. I truly hope his loved ones get closure and know what really happened to him. Poor Liam. ❤
I think people who don’t see how close to rock bottom a person is and they just see the ‘shiny’ front, will automatically struggle to believe he was a junkie who OD’d. Your brain can’t process it. I don’t mean you specifically. It’s human psychology.
The only thing I have questions about is why did the hotel staff send him to his room alone while he was in such a state? He never should have been left alone
Are hotel staff supposed to babysit a customer? Did he have friends with him? Who would accompany him while he was having this problem? I’m sure staff at a hotel are not responsible for taking care of people that are drunk or drugged.
Just because Liam might have been unconscious when he fell, it doesn't necessarily rule out foul play. He might have died shortly before he was thrown over the railing to make it look like he died from the fall and not before he fell. For all we know Liam could have died as a result of physical assault during a fight, before being thrown off the balcony. Many have said that a straight fall wouldn't have caused the 25 visible injuries all over his body.
@@musestudio7075 and how and where he fell was not plausible. He fell backwards but landed parallel to the balcony and further away than looks possible unless thrown by someone rather than falling. His body would have been perpendicular to the balcony and building if he had fallen off backwards. Too many strange discrepancies to be an accident
His Rolex is missing, he was wearing it in photos taken an hour before he died. The Rolex has never been found as yet. There was so much footage of Liam outside the hotel with fans up to an hour before his death. There was a photo of his body in the courtyard released by TMZ (i saw the whole body photo before it was taken down), yet there are no photos or videos of Liam supposedly in distress and under the influence in that hour between being outside with fans and his lifeless body being found in the courtyard? Also lots of photos of the hotel room in disarray and the drugs many of which weren't even found in his system (according to the final FULL autopsy results). It was suggested he may have passed out and fallen over the balcony in the initial investigation, as he had no protective wounds whatsoever. But now its being speculated he was actually dead before (or unconscious) before he went over the balcony. He was wearing a bag and he had had a cap on when he was found. His shoe laces were untied. Despite being outside with fans all that time prior to going back to his hotel room, he didnt have the bag or the cap on at that time. Its almost as though he was trying to go somewhere just before he died. All this talk of him being a heavy drug user - he had been clean for months - he had a drugs test so he could have his Visa accepted, that's the reason he had to stay so long in the first place. He did look slightly under the influence in some of the footage where he was with fans before he died. This Roger guy admits he had visited Liam three times that day, its possible Liam was drugged as he spent a lot of time in the hotel lobby. Its possible he was drugged, then followed to his room, beaten, robbed and then thrown over the balcony. The people staying in the room next door heard shouting and banging and loud screaming just before he went over the balcony. I do think the hotel are aware of what happened, the room looked completely set up. The cameras were mysteriously not working. The hotel manager called for an ambulance (but no police) and suggested Liam may go over the balcony minutes before he actually did. Liam did not take his own life. I don't believe his death was accidental, either.
When his toxicology report came back as traces of cocaine and poly drug use, meaning it was taken earlier and wouldn’t have been affecting him at the time of death. His hotel room was literally staged with a homemade crack pipe. I saw a video of Liam and Kate with Rogelio in the background and it seemed like he was snorting coke. If Liam wasnt the one who smoked the crack, who was?
Liam Payne's family deserves the truth they are suffering the loss of their son and brother not to mention that he was a father to a 7 year old child Argentina step up and tell the truth for a change
The truth is that he was under a lot of substances and alcohol, showing erratic behavior and spending his time with s workers days after his fiancé left.
It didn’t happen because he was in Argentina, it happened because he was using drugs irresponsibly, at least that’s what we think happened right now. It could’ve happened in USA as well, like many other famous deaths of overdoses.
Absolute BS from this guy, he’s giving himself an alibi for any forensics found in the room or on his body! He may have made a pass at Liam and not had the reaction he wanted but Liam did not spend an “intimate” night with this guy. Do you think he’d be posing for pictures in his bedroom if he did? Also Liam looks totally out of it on those pictures! He’s been killed one way or another and with a missing Rolex the whole situation just stinks!
More lies to ruin Liam’s reputation which started with Maya Henry’s abuse claims that have never been proven. Everything with this death goes back to Maya Henry and her plan of the total destruction of Liam Payne
Just depends if Argentina will accept the help from our UK forces. With Jay Slater - The Tenerife Forces refused...they have the power to. I think Argentina have been swift and on the ball though!
To those saying, ‘Why are we blaming others? He chose to do drugs,’ I’d like to clarify a few things.. First, all the substances found near him weren’t even in his system. His death could have come from something as simple as him drinking whiskey, using a bit of cocaine, and then taking his prescribed antidepressants, as he did every day. Yes, drugs are dangerous, and addiction is a serious issue. But drug use is not a justification for someone to lose their life or to be targeted. Addiction shouldn’t be a death sentence, nor does it mean he wasn’t deserving of care and compassion.
Liam had attended rehab twice he was an addict and although he had a clear test for his visa he ordered and took drugs at that hotel..people have been charged in connection with supplying Liam with drugs. Drugs are illegal you play “Russian roulette “ every time you take them you don’t know what they have been cut with and fyi addiction does kill do a bit of research and you will find out how dangerous they are..over a million people have lost their life through an overdose google it.
He also was working toward sobriety. Last year he posted a video saying he was sober and had completed rehab. A lot of these dealers will target celebrities because the assumption is that they have a lot of money to spend. I imagine recovery would be extremely difficult with dealers constantly trying to sell you drugs.
I honestly don't think Liam knew he was taking drugs. That's why he started acting confused and scared because he couldn't understand what was happening to him. They snuck him drugs and it seemingly never started on just that day. That's why I believe the girlfriend was also in on it. I do hope the truth comes out. Sometimes it's best to keep our weaknesses to ourselves and work on it quietly. Liam was so open about his and it's what they used to get rid of him with the thought that it would go as another error by yet another celebrity addict. It's really sad and I hope the Argentinian Authorities are not fooling us that they are looking deeply into this case. I think lots more will be unfolded as the investigation continues.
@@heinmolenaar6750no drug dealer, no drug death. As far as I know, trafficking in drugs is illegal so ya, it okay by me if they go after the drug suppliers
What about the fact in the 911 call the hotel employees says they haven't been able to get into his room for 2 to 3 days?!? They lied from the start!!!! RIP Liam truly so sad 🙏🏻
Liam Payne did not fall off the balcony...... He was thrown off the balcony and murdered..... He would never have taken his own life because he lived for his family and his son
@@nutcracker2916theres no way those two unalived themselves. they were working on a documentary and of course coincidentally they decided to S themselves months apart from each other 🤔 Chris wasnt a drug addict and was rumored to be trying to divorce his wife, who is from a shady family. She also had a legal battle with Soundgarden and she refused to give Chris's first daughter from his first marriage, her inheritance
@@kaylathompson2111 who said he relapsed? Its already being understood this was no accident. Hes a very wealthy man with no security guards around him, infact no one around him in a hotel and hes high, so hes vulnerable 💯
@@JNMKlover Investigators said that when Liam fell he was unconscious or almost unconscious, so he wouldn't be screaming when he was falling. However, people staying in the room next door said they heard a loud scream moments before Liam fell.
@@elena79rus The guy underneath him said that there was no screaming during the actual fall. The screaming had been when he was in his room, trashing it. Sounds like he went out to the balcony after that
He could have used his watch as payment for drugs or the escorts he was hanging out with. He could have been murdered, but a missing watch doesn’t = murder. There’s a lot of explanations that are nowhere near as dramatic.
They did, and the police confirmed that there was no foul play involved. He passed out and went over the railing. That’s what happened. Dude had a lot of drugs and alcohol in his system. Liam was no innocent sweet man. He was a druggie and it finally got the best of him.
@@itzrainbowdragon Yup, during my collage day's I've done stuff I couldn't even remember I was so wasted, it isn't to hard to believe he got hammered, blacked out and fell.
@@itzrainbowdragonBeing a drug addict doesn’t make you or mean that you’re a bad person. But having a mentality like yours does. You clearly don’t understand addiction. Don’t be ignorant.
These arrests still don’t explain or touch on in any way how an unconscious person fell Up and Over a balcony railing while unconscious and sustained 25 injuries from a fall which is unheard of Unless he OD’d I’d be less interested in the drugs and more interested in how an unconscious person managed to fall Up and Over a balcony railing while unconscious and sustain 25 injuries from a fall which is unheard of
Some say he was sitting on the railing when he passed out and fell But it’s too suspicious how his body was parallel and not perpendicular to the building if he fell backwards. Too many unknowns and unlikely pieces for an accident
25 injuries is absolutely consistent with a fall from that height. He could have been hit on the back of the heat and then tossed over, but that doesn’t change the fact that all of his injuries could easily have been caused by the fall alone.
The hotel staff know that he was in distress so why didn't they call an ambulance for him instead of sending him back to his room with a balcony so many times...... I'm a Spanish teacher so I know what the translation is and one person said that he was not well enough to go back up to his room especially since his room has a balcony...., I know my Spanish. 15 years is too little time to be sent to prison he should be in prison for life and whoever else was responsible should be in prison for life for taking Liam Payne's life at 31 years old😢
Hotel staff are not there to evaluate mental states of guests and call the authorities. I’m sure other drunk guests go back to the room to sleep it off. He was an adult with big money, could have saved himself in many ways but choses not to.
At your job? Are you supposed to babysit your co-workers or customers? Would have you gone with him to his room and tend to him and babysit him? I don’t think so. In any case, managers are the ones managing the staff’s time, and I’m sure they wouldn’t like staff being in a room with him alone, for insurance reasons.
@markshepperson3603 In the beginning of this tragedy, news reports were saying Liam was having seizures in the lobby. Seizures Are a Medical EMERGENCY!!! - that constituted the hotel staff to call EMS & STAY with him (or the subject), until EMS arrived & transported him to a hospital. That IS Negligence & perhaps a setup. Now the hotel has a bad reputation.
Such a terrible shame. I went to the same school as Liam. I knew him but not as well as my little brother knew him. They were around the same age. He'd been over to our house a few times. A really nice guy and gone far too soon. My condolences to Karen, Geoff, Nicky and Ruthey.
Why nobody finds it strange on the reception mention of balcony in the emergency call. Hard to believe so coincidental. When someone call emergency, they probably say the person is creating chaos, etc, not suggesting what he will do
It was all a set up. After looking at the pictures from his hotel room what stood out was the T.V it looks to me that his head was smashed against the t.v because it has a round print.
I fell from a second floor height, slept walked , I only slipped 3 disc in my neck because my body was relaxed as I wasn’t aware , so I don’t understand the amount of injuries?
@@angelwings1446 playing devils advocate - but he could have sustained injuries from having a psychotic break. If he was smashing things in his room there would be multiple injuries. Guests say they heard loud, violent, primal sounds coming from his room.
@@the2ofustv329 Your point is well-taken, however toxicology reported only traces of cocaine/alcohol/anti-depressant in his system, so a psychotic break would have come out of nowhere, not drug-induced, so not as likely.
@angelwings1446 first and foremost, I'm so sorry you went through that ordeal, and I'm glad you're still with us. I've actually wondered how he sustained such horrendous injuries from roughly 45 feet. Hearing your story really opened my eyes to how sketchy this is. Hope you're doing well, thank you for sharing your story!
This whole thing sounds like a set up. His watch is missing and the suspects are saying shady things. Sounds like he was beaten and robbed. Why did he have additional injuries not consistent with the fall. The worker/supplier that was doing interviews that Liam was going to show him clothes and new music I don’t buy NONE of that, nothing that he said sounds legit. Knows a lot more than what he’s saying now trying to victimize himself. Not to mention that Roger Nores was introduced to Liam by his toxic ex Maya Henry ! The same woman who wrote a book stating exactly what happened to him on balcony ! Sus! Why wasn’t he allowed to leave the hotel ? Why did he have his bag and his hat ?
Naw, I’m a recovering addict and it’s pretty easy to see what happened. He had recently relapsed hard and was up for several days, smoking crack heavily, was in psychosis, and fell/jumped off the balcony without realizing that it was even happening. I had something similar happen years ago. Relapsed hard on crack, was up for several days, went into psychosis, and my ex found me building a fort with pillows and blankets in the communal laundry area. I had absolutely zero idea wtf was going on. I could have easily fallen or jumped off a balcony without realizing what I was doing. It is a really sad story though. Fighting those demons is something I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. May Liam RIP
@ lol the actions aren’t the point, the ‘crack induced psychosis’ is. When you’ve been up for several days, high on base cocaine, and in psychosis, you could do anything without realizing it.
wow Rogelio "Roger" went to my high school, strange links with gov between 2015/19.. spiraled his career big time. not be surprised if politics might be involved. i lived very close by to this Hotel, drugs everywhere and high end providers for high end clients.
Liam got up and had breakfast at 12 -1pm with cassidy, saying he was playing polo and riding horses that day............5pm dead. It doesn't make sense.
That video was filmed earlier but posted on the day of his death. However, at 4.45 Liam was unconscious in the lobby, at 4.54, he went upstairs in the lift and at 5.04, he hit the deck. That gives him 10 minutes to go up in the lift, open his door, enter his room, remove his jacket, take drugs (?), trash his room, put on his cap and bag and then throw himself off the balcony backwards - while simultaneously being unconscious. Seems a little tight to me.
It's such a shame for what happened to Liam,there are so many different story's about his passing,I dont think they will ever find the truth,let the poor lad rest in piece.
We need to remember, Liam had plans for the future. He was excited about a lot of things happening. How on earth does it go so wrong so quickly? Liam had a history with addiction, he said it so many times. It wasn’t a secret or something he hid. This is definitely a set up. He had traces of drugs in his system, he didn’t OD. His current team played a huge role in his death. I hope his family had secured the samples they need to have a full investigation done.
His life wasn’t all peachy. Ex-girlfriend issues cease and desist. Record label cuts him. He received some kind of email that caused him to trash his laptop. He was battling an addiction, which is a daily struggle, that he just succumbed to again. Sounds like a pretty devastating place to be, mentally.
What we're the earlier reports saying he had collapsed in the lobby and had a seizure? It doesn't sound as if he was overdosing on drugs, or taken many different ones? The unravelling through the day was disproved by fans videos. Was the primal screaming reported by the American tourist heard within those last few minutes? What is the actual truth?
I have not seen anywhere that Roger was identified as the person. Because the charge is that whoever it was also facilitated the drug supply and then abandoned him. That goes against everything that makes sense. We already know that Roger had sent an email to Liam's family when he was filming Building the Band in the UK. He was very concerned about Liam's sobriety because he was afraid Liam would have easy access to drug dealers that he knows there. Roger had been helping him to stay sober in florida and had private doctors assisting him to stay clean. I dont know where his name was stated as the person other than the internet rumor mill and publications jumping on that rumor mill, but it definitely wasn't in the prosecutor's report. The daily mail reported him saying " I did not abandon him" but never stated it was NOT him....making it look like he was the one. When clearly in the body of the article he stated the he has NOT been visited or raided by police at all and simply gave his intial police statement on Oct. 17th. All of this internet talk is s*** show and I would like to see the actual police reports. It sounds like what the commentator here has said. That they are casting a wide net, and they are interested in 3 specific people who had interactions with Liam. But charges are not necessarily guilt, so it'll be interesting to see where this goes. I assume there will be more conversations with these people to determine their actual involvement. It's weird that they are calling it "charges," but nobody is arrested. I feel like there is a translation issue going on as well, which is making everything that much more confusing. I mean the fact that this waiter is "charged" but is free to give interviews or his side of the story....like huh? Is he actually charged with something, or are they just wanting to speak further with him? It's definitely confusing.
The most important part of this interviews 'THE OFFICIALS HAVE TO BE SEEN AS IF THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING' The OFFICIALS have be to seen as if they are doing something!!!!! That's the most accurate thing about all this crap investigation. They have been in the hotel 3 Times since, for a short period of time, only in the lobby, so, why is his hotel room looked? Why didn't they allow his dad to go inside? His dad knew something was rotten! The thing is that they never thought so many people would be looking at this case and take pieces apart because they don't belong to this puzzle. All these stories just do not match together
Please make sure you have a competent translator from Argentinian Spanish. The three people you are referring to are not "charged" for anything. The are "accused" and the are "under investigation. please be careful, do not confuse the two things.
The amount of misinformation from the mistranslations is actually a joke, I can't believe how unserious they are about sticking to how things are said in reality
I don't know why they had to mention like 10 times that there was a language barrier and that there might be mistranslations, all they had to do was to have a professional translator translate those short texts lol
When it's a suspicious death like this, does the medical examiner preserves organs, tissue, hair, etc. for the ongoing investigation? Before the body is "prepared"?
Where liam was found .....he was thrown over the balcony or pushed !!! Liam was already unconscious or dead. Liam was bashed inside that hotel room prior to being thrown over the balcony.
what are you going on about ? He fell from his balcony which protrudes about 6 feet from the building. If he was sitting on the hand rail passes out he would fall backwards ending up parallel to the building
@@VB-j4z I have heard conflicting reports about the position of his body, either way it would depend on the angle he was sitting. I still think he was sitting and then fell.
There is too much suspicion about the drugs. Yes, he may have had some in his system, but I don't think he would have it lying around out in the open like it shows. So I think all the drugs that were lying around were staged to cover up. If he fell on his own, someone had to walk him to the balcony in my mind. And if the neighbors next to him heard him arguing, destroying things in the room and he heard the scream. Someone was with him. All three suspects may be involved but only the janitor would have had a room key to get in. And plus his watch missing which they knew was worth alot of money would give motive to stage everything. Only my opinion.
If his Rolex was missing then Liam was a target. Maybe that's why Liam was so angry in his room because he discovered his Rolex was missing and he knew it was someone that was connected to drugs. Idk what do you think?
For clarification Rogelio Nores is the one that gave Liam the pesos to buy the drugs, he keept him locked in and pump in drugs and liquor, he's into shady business with big politicians so...
Such a devastating death may he rest in peace 🕊️ he was a kind person "I think he was killed even if it's not the case he was surrounded by a toxic friends who cared only about money "
I cant understand the motive to hurt someone like liam? Unless it was accidental and then a cover up? I find it hard to believe someone that loved his family the way Liam did, would put himself in a situation that would devistate his family
I saw a post saying the dealer picture it's a montage. Liam was always so kind with their fans and people, he likes to take pictures with everybody. Don't trust this guy without more proof
Roger nores before had in the lobby said to liam fan that he was high .....plus Roger nores knows maya henry family which is liam ex fiancé......Roger set liam up he even took liam up to his room frm the lobby before his demise ...... he was murdered to silence 🔕 him.
Liam did not deserve any of this, it’s so unfortunate. It’s hard to believe he’s gone, doesn’t feel real at all. Him being on this Law&Crime Network is unreal. Rest easy liam payne.
Don’t worry Liam s dad knows none of this adds up 😢 someone s hurt him RIP such a lovely man with a kind heart ❤️ this should never have happened to him
Something is fishy about the friend, if he was stayin with him the duration of being in the country [the gf leaves] and then now he’s in a hotel room? Then you say “he was with 15 people joking”….so he’s with 15 random strangers and you think this constitutes your negligent behavior to whom you call is your supposed friend?…I wouldn’t call that too friendly. I’d call that careless or ignorant
In the USA they have the rule that bars can’t over serve. This is also the one serving alcohol responsible for the actions of someone else. Giving someone drugs and knowing that they are not in their mind anymore is something similar.
I think he was already dead and someone threw him over wanting it to look like a self end. Maybe he o’d or they got into it but I don’t think he threw himself over.
The more people close to Liam & officials trip over themselves in comments, the clearer it looks that Liam was set up to look like he did this to himself. But they TOTALLY underestimated the LOVE for Liam worldwide. We won't stop til JUSTICE FOR LIAM... and his loving family. THANK YOU for your continued questioning.
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I’m glad they are doing a thorough investigation. But I just wish they do this much of a job for the common folks.
Because they know the world is watching and scrutinising
Are you from Argentina? Perhaps this is normal in that country
MIRENLO AL NEGRO ESE QUE SE HACE PASAR X HOMOSEXUAL DE LIAN !! QUE LE TRAJO DROGA Y NO ESTA PRESO TODAVIA POR TRAERLE DROGA ?? ES NARCO ESTE NEGRO CON CARA DE PERUANO ??? ES FEO POR DONDE LO MIREN Y LIAM PAIM ES UN HERMOSO MUCHACHO QUE SE CONFIO EN ESTOS DELINCUENTES !! QUE ESPERO QUE DE SU PAIS TRAIGAN TAMBIEN SUS INVESTIGADORES SCOTLANYAR !! YA NOSE SI EXISTEN !! JAJAJA !!
@@NewIphone-q5ybut its not normal for the U.S. and even any country, people are going to put more effort into well known people. That’s just how it is
Here in Argentina, everything is usually investigated, even if it seems unnecessary (We've seen it in several cases, especially those that are high-profile).
And there's a strong 'drive' for international validation. So, I don’t find it strange that they are investigating so much, although I have the feeling that the investigation isn't really focused on Liam’s death, but rather on tracking down drug movements. It's something they want to eliminate from the country before it becomes a bigger problem.
So someone got arrested, but somehow was talking to the media with no lawyer making absolutely no sense.
Argentina, no lo entenderías 😂
Such a devastating loss. So much seems so off. A lot doesn't make sense. I truly hope his loved ones get closure and know what really happened to him. Poor Liam. ❤
We’ll he was on crack and heroin what more do you need
I think people who don’t see how close to rock bottom a person is and they just see the ‘shiny’ front, will automatically struggle to believe he was a junkie who OD’d. Your brain can’t process it.
I don’t mean you specifically. It’s human psychology.
The only thing I have questions about is why did the hotel staff send him to his room alone while he was in such a state? He never should have been left alone
Are hotel staff supposed to babysit a customer? Did he have friends with him? Who would accompany him while he was having this problem? I’m sure staff at a hotel are not responsible for taking care of people that are drunk or drugged.
@@lissam956 Witnesses in the lobby said he was having convulsions. Instead of bringing him up to his room they should have called authorities.
@@lissam956call the police. They r there for a reason.
He was fainting, they were wrong for locking him in his room have some empathy@@lissam956
@@heytherececeliathey did place a call after he was put back in his room. They can’t have a man convulsing publicly scaring other patrons.
Just because Liam might have been unconscious when he fell, it doesn't necessarily rule out foul play. He might have died shortly before he was thrown over the railing to make it look like he died from the fall and not before he fell. For all we know Liam could have died as a result of physical assault during a fight, before being thrown off the balcony. Many have said that a straight fall wouldn't have caused the 25 visible injuries all over his body.
Exactly, you’re right.
@@musestudio7075 and how and where he fell was not plausible. He fell backwards but landed parallel to the balcony and further away than looks possible unless thrown by someone rather than falling. His body would have been perpendicular to the balcony and building if he had fallen off backwards. Too many strange discrepancies to be an accident
@@sionybuscaino4466they did say the hotel reported a cranial fracture and extremely severe injuries that lead to his death
@@musestudio7075 si es verdad el no se tiró le empujaron 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦
Liam had 25 separate injuries & some wasn’t due to falling 45 feet
His Rolex is missing, he was wearing it in photos taken an hour before he died. The Rolex has never been found as yet.
There was so much footage of Liam outside the hotel with fans up to an hour before his death. There was a photo of his body in the courtyard released by TMZ (i saw the whole body photo before it was taken down), yet there are no photos or videos of Liam supposedly in distress and under the influence in that hour between being outside with fans and his lifeless body being found in the courtyard?
Also lots of photos of the hotel room in disarray and the drugs many of which weren't even found in his system (according to the final FULL autopsy results). It was suggested he may have passed out and fallen over the balcony in the initial investigation, as he had no protective wounds whatsoever. But now its being speculated he was actually dead before (or unconscious) before he went over the balcony. He was wearing a bag and he had had a cap on when he was found. His shoe laces were untied. Despite being outside with fans all that time prior to going back to his hotel room, he didnt have the bag or the cap on at that time. Its almost as though he was trying to go somewhere just before he died.
All this talk of him being a heavy drug user - he had been clean for months - he had a drugs test so he could have his Visa accepted, that's the reason he had to stay so long in the first place.
He did look slightly under the influence in some of the footage where he was with fans before he died. This Roger guy admits he had visited Liam three times that day, its possible Liam was drugged as he spent a lot of time in the hotel lobby.
Its possible he was drugged, then followed to his room, beaten, robbed and then thrown over the balcony. The people staying in the room next door heard shouting and banging and loud screaming just before he went over the balcony. I do think the hotel are aware of what happened, the room looked completely set up. The cameras were mysteriously not working. The hotel manager called for an ambulance (but no police) and suggested Liam may go over the balcony minutes before he actually did.
Liam did not take his own life. I don't believe his death was accidental, either.
Completamente d' accordo...gli hanno teso una trappola....😢
When his toxicology report came back as traces of cocaine and poly drug use, meaning it was taken earlier and wouldn’t have been affecting him at the time of death. His hotel room was literally staged with a homemade crack pipe. I saw a video of Liam and Kate with Rogelio in the background and it seemed like he was snorting coke. If Liam wasnt the one who smoked the crack, who was?
Sure seems that way. ✌️❤️😊
Uh, Cassidy got it!😅
Three words
His former Record Company.
Whoever was responsible for his murder should go to jail for life
Yeah… that’s pretty standard when you murder anybody. 😂
What evidence and proof do you have to indicate that he was murdered
Liam Payne's family deserves the truth they are suffering the loss of their son and brother not to mention that he was a father to a 7 year old child
Argentina step up and tell the truth for a change
The truth is that he was under a lot of substances and alcohol, showing erratic behavior and spending his time with s workers days after his fiancé left.
Well he shouldn't have been doing drugs if his family and 7yo son was so important huh
@@LeilaleilaZ 😴😴😴
Several years of drug abuse could not take him, but a weekend in Argentina did. Wild
You only have so much luck
That's life for you.
It didn’t happen because he was in Argentina, it happened because he was using drugs irresponsibly, at least that’s what we think happened right now. It could’ve happened in USA as well, like many other famous deaths of overdoses.
Yes he was definitely murdered just like Princess Diana was and they won’t admit it
Over two weeks actually. ✌️❤️😊
Absolute BS from this guy, he’s giving himself an alibi for any forensics found in the room or on his body! He may have made a pass at Liam and not had the reaction he wanted but Liam did not spend an “intimate” night with this guy. Do you think he’d be posing for pictures in his bedroom if he did? Also Liam looks totally out of it on those pictures! He’s been killed one way or another and with a missing Rolex the whole situation just stinks!
Well Liam is bisexual so who knows
Liam looks as when he looks with fans....not totally lost for love by this guy
@@reginoramos9030 Oh really? I did not know that:)
@@Swiss_Girl That guy's lying, Liam has only ever described himself as straight.
More lies to ruin Liam’s reputation which started with Maya Henry’s abuse claims that have never been proven. Everything with this death goes back to Maya Henry and her plan of the total destruction of Liam Payne
When he was greeting fans outside he was wearing his watch.
The UK needs to send an investigation team over to see if they find the same results or other results. Different authorities work differently
I agree!
Just depends if Argentina will accept the help from our UK forces. With Jay Slater - The Tenerife Forces refused...they have the power to. I think Argentina have been swift and on the ball though!
I'm not too confident in the Argentinian investigation. They already let a suspect talk to the media.
@@Raychie389 it’s out of their jurisdiction
@@KatieBlue16 The UK and Argentina are not the greatest of friends.
To those saying, ‘Why are we blaming others? He chose to do drugs,’ I’d like to clarify a few things..
First, all the substances found near him weren’t even in his system. His death could have come from something as simple as him drinking whiskey, using a bit of cocaine, and then taking his prescribed antidepressants, as he did every day.
Yes, drugs are dangerous, and addiction is a serious issue. But drug use is not a justification for someone to lose their life or to be targeted. Addiction shouldn’t be a death sentence, nor does it mean he wasn’t deserving of care and compassion.
@@missriss_xoxo no alcohol, no drugs, no death.
Liam had attended rehab twice he was an addict and although he had a clear test for his visa he ordered and took drugs at that hotel..people have been charged in connection with supplying Liam with drugs.
Drugs are illegal you play “Russian roulette “ every time you take them you don’t know what they have been cut with and fyi addiction does kill do a bit of research and you will find out how dangerous they are..over a million people have lost their life through an overdose google it.
He also was working toward sobriety. Last year he posted a video saying he was sober and had completed rehab. A lot of these dealers will target celebrities because the assumption is that they have a lot of money to spend. I imagine recovery would be extremely difficult with dealers constantly trying to sell you drugs.
I honestly don't think Liam knew he was taking drugs. That's why he started acting confused and scared because he couldn't understand what was happening to him. They snuck him drugs and it seemingly never started on just that day. That's why I believe the girlfriend was also in on it. I do hope the truth comes out. Sometimes it's best to keep our weaknesses to ourselves and work on it quietly. Liam was so open about his and it's what they used to get rid of him with the thought that it would go as another error by yet another celebrity addict. It's really sad and I hope the Argentinian Authorities are not fooling us that they are looking deeply into this case. I think lots more will be unfolded as the investigation continues.
@@heinmolenaar6750no drug dealer, no drug death. As far as I know, trafficking in drugs is illegal so ya, it okay by me if they go after the drug suppliers
What about the fact in the 911 call the hotel employees says they haven't been able to get into his room for 2 to 3 days?!? They lied from the start!!!! RIP Liam truly so sad 🙏🏻
Liam Payne did not fall off the balcony...... He was thrown off the balcony and murdered..... He would never have taken his own life because he lived for his family and his son
This whole story reminds me of Princess Diana’s death. A murder being covered as an mysterious accidental death
Chester Benningfield and Chris Cornell were also fathers. Chester had six! But they still took their own lives.
What’s the motive
@@nutcracker2916theres no way those two unalived themselves. they were working on a documentary and of course coincidentally they decided to S themselves months apart from each other 🤔 Chris wasnt a drug addict and was rumored to be trying to divorce his wife, who is from a shady family. She also had a legal battle with Soundgarden and she refused to give Chris's first daughter from his first marriage, her inheritance
@@sourgirrll I've not heard that ?
Thanks
If there is a language barrier because Spanish is spoken in Argentina I am certainly available to translate anything if anybody wants me to
They beat the guy to death.
Sadly yes
So sad😢😢
Huh no… don’t make things up.. his injuries were consistent to a fall, according to the autopsy
@@DiamondWhite91 será ?:/24 fraturas 😞
With so many injuries...?! 🤔🤷🏼♀️@@DiamondWhite91
So his bro left him 40 minutes before and he was okay!!!! Did ya’ll hear that? And the videos he looks fine!! This is a set up!!!!
A joke init very bizarre
@@chantellewoods31 I didn’t think about this. Dang that’s crazy
@@chantellewoods31 He was high in the videos with fans beforehand. Nobody is “fine” when they’ve relapsed.
@@kaylathompson2111 who said he relapsed? Its already being understood this was no accident. Hes a very wealthy man with no security guards around him, infact no one around him in a hotel and hes high, so hes vulnerable 💯
Definitely a set up!
@@bevball4705 it isnt,i got a photo of him
I think he was dead before he went over the rail...
How is there no video? People have cameras and videos everywhere. There has to some video. A man, even inebriated, would scream
There is CCTV. @@JNMKlover
@@JNMKlover Investigators said that when Liam fell he was unconscious or almost unconscious, so he wouldn't be screaming when he was falling. However, people staying in the room next door said they heard a loud scream moments before Liam fell.
@@elena79rus
The guy underneath him said that there was no screaming during the actual fall. The screaming had been when he was in his room, trashing it. Sounds like he went out to the balcony after that
@@JNMKlover there is a video of him falling. It was circulating on twitter but it’s Been blocked as it shouldn’t be public
What happened to his watch he was wearing earlier that day? I heard it wasn't found on him or in his room 🤔
People who was paid to kill him and throw him over thought such a waste to throw the Rolex with him
‘Drug Addition’ is a red herring. Definite foul play.
They are trying to cover up something huge ,his watch is missing like there is too much suspicious things to be simple
Myah is behind his death, jealousy is the root of all Evelyn, this was planned by her, Roger is her friend 😢😢😢
All parts of his death go back to Maya Henry who got away with the perfect murder
He could have used his watch as payment for drugs or the escorts he was hanging out with. He could have been murdered, but a missing watch doesn’t = murder. There’s a lot of explanations that are nowhere near as dramatic.
Probably should be a murder investigation
Not probably
They did, and the police confirmed that there was no foul play involved. He passed out and went over the railing. That’s what happened. Dude had a lot of drugs and alcohol in his system. Liam was no innocent sweet man. He was a druggie and it finally got the best of him.
@@itzrainbowdragon Yup, during my collage day's I've done stuff I couldn't even remember I was so wasted, it isn't to hard to believe he got hammered, blacked out and fell.
@@itzrainbowdragonaff quem é vc para jugar ele! Respeito ele morreu
@@itzrainbowdragonBeing a drug addict doesn’t make you or mean that you’re a bad person. But having a mentality like yours does. You clearly don’t understand addiction. Don’t be ignorant.
These arrests still don’t explain or touch on in any way how an unconscious person fell Up and Over a balcony railing while unconscious and sustained 25 injuries from a fall which is unheard of
Unless he OD’d I’d be less interested in the drugs and more interested in how an unconscious person managed to fall Up and Over a balcony railing while unconscious and sustain 25 injuries from a fall which is unheard of
Exactly that’s way too high of a railing “to fall over” any railing that high
Some say he was sitting on the railing when he passed out and fell But it’s too suspicious how his body was parallel and not perpendicular to the building if he fell backwards. Too many unknowns and unlikely pieces for an accident
25 injuries is absolutely consistent with a fall from that height. He could have been hit on the back of the heat and then tossed over, but that doesn’t change the fact that all of his injuries could easily have been caused by the fall alone.
The hotel staff know that he was in distress so why didn't they call an ambulance for him instead of sending him back to his room with a balcony so many times...... I'm a Spanish teacher so I know what the translation is and one person said that he was not well enough to go back up to his room especially since his room has a balcony...., I know my Spanish. 15 years is too little time to be sent to prison he should be in prison for life and whoever else was responsible should be in prison for life for taking Liam Payne's life at 31 years old😢
Yes exactly. I agree
Hotel staff are not there to evaluate mental states of guests and call the authorities. I’m sure other drunk guests go back to the room to sleep it off. He was an adult with big money, could have saved himself in many ways but choses not to.
At your job? Are you supposed to babysit your co-workers or customers? Would have you gone with him to his room and tend to him and babysit him? I don’t think so. In any case, managers are the ones managing the staff’s time, and I’m sure they wouldn’t like staff being in a room with him alone, for insurance reasons.
@markshepperson3603
In the beginning of this tragedy, news reports were saying Liam was having seizures in the lobby. Seizures Are a Medical EMERGENCY!!! - that constituted the hotel staff to call EMS & STAY with him (or the subject), until EMS arrived & transported him to a hospital. That IS Negligence & perhaps a setup. Now the hotel has a bad reputation.
@elizabethprovencio5871 yes I agree. They should've called the ambulance right away instead of sending him back to his hotel room
Such a terrible shame. I went to the same school as Liam. I knew him but not as well as my little brother knew him. They were around the same age. He'd been over to our house a few times. A really nice guy and gone far too soon. My condolences to Karen, Geoff, Nicky and Ruthey.
16:31 You hit the nail on the head if there’s a cover up then embalming the body makes doing a new examination next to impossible
Why nobody finds it strange on the reception mention of balcony in the emergency call. Hard to believe so coincidental. When someone call emergency, they probably say the person is creating chaos, etc, not suggesting what he will do
It was all a set up. After looking at the pictures from his hotel room what stood out was the T.V it looks to me that his head was smashed against the t.v because it has a round print.
Absolutely
Could be a fist...
It was a set up they spiked liam with something else he was unconscious hope his family get the truth rip liam ❤
We need more of Joseph...!!!❤
Roger was the point of contact. He set Liam up.
He lured him to Argentina
What would be his motive though ?
I fell from a second floor height, slept walked , I only slipped 3 disc in my neck because my body was relaxed as I wasn’t aware , so I don’t understand the amount of injuries?
It's all a set up. He was beat up before being thrown over the balcony
@@angelwings1446 playing devils advocate - but he could have sustained injuries from having a psychotic break. If he was smashing things in his room there would be multiple injuries. Guests say they heard loud, violent, primal sounds coming from his room.
@@the2ofustv329 Your point is well-taken, however toxicology reported only traces of cocaine/alcohol/anti-depressant in his system, so a psychotic break would have come out of nowhere, not drug-induced, so not as likely.
@@the2ofustv329 No defensive wounds, though, and injuries 'consistent with a fall'.
@angelwings1446 first and foremost, I'm so sorry you went through that ordeal, and I'm glad you're still with us. I've actually wondered how he sustained such horrendous injuries from roughly 45 feet. Hearing your story really opened my eyes to how sketchy this is. Hope you're doing well, thank you for sharing your story!
I need more of Joseph Scott Morgan
Lol
Get it girl
This whole thing sounds like a set up. His watch is missing and the suspects are saying shady things. Sounds like he was beaten and robbed. Why did he have additional injuries not consistent with the fall. The worker/supplier that was doing interviews that Liam was going to show him clothes and new music I don’t buy NONE of that, nothing that he said sounds legit. Knows a lot more than what he’s saying now trying to victimize himself. Not to mention that Roger Nores was introduced to Liam by his toxic ex Maya Henry ! The same woman who wrote a book stating exactly what happened to him on balcony ! Sus! Why wasn’t he allowed to leave the hotel ? Why did he have his bag and his hat ?
Such a sad story! I think he was set up
Naw, I’m a recovering addict and it’s pretty easy to see what happened. He had recently relapsed hard and was up for several days, smoking crack heavily, was in psychosis, and fell/jumped off the balcony without realizing that it was even happening.
I had something similar happen years ago. Relapsed hard on crack, was up for several days, went into psychosis, and my ex found me building a fort with pillows and blankets in the communal laundry area. I had absolutely zero idea wtf was going on. I could have easily fallen or jumped off a balcony without realizing what I was doing.
It is a really sad story though. Fighting those demons is something I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. May Liam RIP
@@wolfpecker5710 from building a pillow fort to jumping off a balcony*some comparison * 😅
@ lol the actions aren’t the point, the ‘crack induced psychosis’ is. When you’ve been up for several days, high on base cocaine, and in psychosis, you could do anything without realizing it.
@@wolfpecker5710 trust me I know, just trying to shed some light in the dark is all
wow Rogelio "Roger" went to my high school, strange links with gov between 2015/19.. spiraled his career big time. not be surprised if politics might be involved. i lived very close by to this Hotel, drugs everywhere and high end providers for high end clients.
the fact his father went there and help do an investigation, clearly shows his so called friend was not a friend at all. And, his statement is wack!
Liam got up and had breakfast at 12 -1pm with cassidy, saying he was playing polo and riding horses that day............5pm dead. It doesn't make sense.
that video was uploaded on the day of death but was taken earlier in the week they aren't the same day
Pretty sure that was a few days before, but still his death doesn’t make sense. Red flags galore.
That video was filmed earlier but posted on the day of his death. However, at 4.45 Liam was unconscious in the lobby, at 4.54, he went upstairs in the lift and at 5.04, he hit the deck. That gives him 10 minutes to go up in the lift, open his door, enter his room, remove his jacket, take drugs (?), trash his room, put on his cap and bag and then throw himself off the balcony backwards - while simultaneously being unconscious. Seems a little tight to me.
Worlds longest CCTV footage release ever .....stinks of corruption
It's such a shame for what happened to Liam,there are so many different story's about his passing,I dont think they will ever find the truth,let the poor lad rest in piece.
We need to remember, Liam had plans for the future. He was excited about a lot of things happening. How on earth does it go so wrong so quickly? Liam had a history with addiction, he said it so many times. It wasn’t a secret or something he hid. This is definitely a set up. He had traces of drugs in his system, he didn’t OD. His current team played a huge role in his death. I hope his family had secured the samples they need to have a full investigation done.
His life wasn’t all peachy. Ex-girlfriend issues cease and desist. Record label cuts him. He received some kind of email that caused him to trash his laptop. He was battling an addiction, which is a daily struggle, that he just succumbed to again. Sounds like a pretty devastating place to be, mentally.
What we're the earlier reports saying he had collapsed in the lobby and had a seizure? It doesn't sound as if he was overdosing on drugs, or taken many different ones? The unravelling through the day was disproved by fans videos. Was the primal screaming reported by the American tourist heard within those last few minutes? What is the actual truth?
Seizure was a mistranslation, he was just shaking, like he had tremors.
I have not seen anywhere that Roger was identified as the person. Because the charge is that whoever it was also facilitated the drug supply and then abandoned him.
That goes against everything that makes sense.
We already know that Roger had sent an email to Liam's family when he was filming Building the Band in the UK. He was very concerned about Liam's sobriety because he was afraid Liam would have easy access to drug dealers that he knows there.
Roger had been helping him to stay sober in florida and had private doctors assisting him to stay clean. I dont know where his name was stated as the person other than the internet rumor mill and publications jumping on that rumor mill, but it definitely wasn't in the prosecutor's report.
The daily mail reported him saying " I did not abandon him" but never stated it was NOT him....making it look like he was the one. When clearly in the body of the article he stated the he has NOT been visited or raided by police at all and simply gave his intial police statement on Oct. 17th.
All of this internet talk is s*** show and I would like to see the actual police reports.
It sounds like what the commentator here has said. That they are casting a wide net, and they are interested in 3 specific people who had interactions with Liam. But charges are not necessarily guilt, so it'll be interesting to see where this goes. I assume there will be more conversations with these people to determine their actual involvement. It's weird that they are calling it "charges," but nobody is arrested. I feel like there is a translation issue going on as well, which is making everything that much more confusing. I mean the fact that this waiter is "charged" but is free to give interviews or his side of the story....like huh? Is he actually charged with something, or are they just wanting to speak further with him? It's definitely confusing.
Fascinating information and so very sad. Joseph is just so amazing to listen to. Thank you both.
All Rolex watches have a serial number
The most important part of this interviews
'THE OFFICIALS HAVE TO BE SEEN AS IF THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING'
The OFFICIALS have be to seen as if they are doing something!!!!!
That's the most accurate thing about all this crap investigation.
They have been in the hotel 3 Times since, for a short period of time, only in the lobby, so, why is his hotel room looked? Why didn't they allow his dad to go inside?
His dad knew something was rotten!
The thing is that they never thought so many people would be looking at this case and take pieces apart because they don't belong to this puzzle. All these stories just do not match together
Please make sure you have a competent translator from Argentinian Spanish. The three people you are referring to are not "charged" for anything. The are "accused" and the are "under investigation. please be careful, do not confuse the two things.
The amount of misinformation from the mistranslations is actually a joke, I can't believe how unserious they are about sticking to how things are said in reality
I don't know why they had to mention like 10 times that there was a language barrier and that there might be mistranslations, all they had to do was to have a professional translator translate those short texts lol
When it's a suspicious death like this, does the medical examiner preserves organs, tissue, hair, etc. for the ongoing investigation? Before the body is "prepared"?
Most definitely.
I’ve really been enjoying the opinion’s and insights of Jospeh Scott Morgan discussing this case
Where liam was found .....he was thrown over the balcony or pushed !!! Liam was already unconscious or dead.
Liam was bashed inside that hotel room prior to being thrown over the balcony.
Love your podcast!
Love your guest, Joseph Scott Morgan!
Why would Liam take a total stranger to his room to take drugs ?????
Drug overdose doesn’t make you land far from, but parallel to, a balcony, backwards… disinformation video
what are you going on about ? He fell from his balcony which protrudes about 6 feet from the building. If he was sitting on the hand rail passes out he would fall backwards ending up parallel to the building
@@Cat-dq4rvwhy would he be sitting on the handrail though? dangerous, especially when drinking liquor
@@Cat-dq4rvfor real, how do u go from distress to sitting on a railing on ur balcony?
@@Cat-dq4rv no he would end up at 90 degrees and just below the balcony, not 10 foot out and in line with the building
@@VB-j4z I have heard conflicting reports about the position of his body, either way it would depend on the angle he was sitting. I still think he was sitting and then fell.
There is too much suspicion about the drugs. Yes, he may have had some in his system, but I don't think he would have it lying around out in the open like it shows. So I think all the drugs that were lying around were staged to cover up. If he fell on his own, someone had to walk him to the balcony in my mind. And if the neighbors next to him heard him arguing, destroying things in the room and he heard the scream. Someone was with him. All three suspects may be involved but only the janitor would have had a room key to get in. And plus his watch missing which they knew was worth alot of money would give motive to stage everything. Only my opinion.
He wouldn’t have landed the way he did if he had fallen over
Did they fingerprint the Dove soap box..that would tell who had given the drugs to him.
Wheres his rolex watch!!
No one knows 🤷♂️
It probably got robbed before he was killed
So if he had so little drugs in him seems like he was beaten and thrown over the balcony.
@jonfishsorth1369 yeah that's what it sounds like 100 percent
@@SammyA1989 Maybe, Inspector Gadget 🕵️♂️
After hearing the call to emergency services I told my kiddo there's something fishy! She was surprised I was on to something, lol!
that guy who claims to have been intimate with liam looks very shifty!!
That girl cared nothing about Liam. Let’s be real.
If his Rolex was missing then Liam was a target. Maybe that's why Liam was so angry in his room because he discovered his Rolex was missing and he knew it was someone that was connected to drugs. Idk what do you think?
The could be a possibility a reason, why Liam trashed his hotel room.
The reality is that nobody is exent to be robbed. The most damaging person for Liam
Was himself.
For clarification Rogelio Nores is the one that gave Liam the pesos to buy the drugs, he keept him locked in and pump in drugs and liquor, he's into shady business with big politicians so...
feel like he was robbed from dealers or the women escorts....after getting him high and drunk
I agree!
It's such a reach that y'all are willing to blame literally anybody but the guy who was under the influence and violent 🙄
@LeilaleilaZ Zero brain function lol this is why
This case will likely boil down to nothing. May he rest in peace
Such a devastating death may he rest in peace 🕊️ he was a kind person
"I think he was killed even if it's not the case he was surrounded by a toxic friends who cared only about money "
I cant understand the motive to hurt someone like liam? Unless it was accidental and then a cover up? I find it hard to believe someone that loved his family the way Liam did, would put himself in a situation that would devistate his family
I saw a post saying the dealer picture it's a montage. Liam was always so kind with their fans and people, he likes to take pictures with everybody.
Don't trust this guy without more proof
It was all a set up...poor Liam didn't deserve all this...Rest in Peace precious and unforgettable Liam ❤🙏🏻🌹
Roger nores before had in the lobby said to liam fan that he was high .....plus Roger nores knows maya henry family which is liam ex fiancé......Roger set liam up he even took liam up to his room frm the lobby before his demise ...... he was murdered to silence 🔕 him.
He was killed let’s get the real truth.
no he was not, get a grip
@@Cat-dq4rv I think he was. Its the only valid explanation so far.
@@Prtyh cctv show him falling, only the dealer and supplier are part of his death
@@Cat-dq4rv I haven't seen the CCTV footage. So far it seems to be a game of Chinese whispers.
@@Prtyh I do not think the general public have any right to see the cctv footage the police have.....that would be horrific for his family
Liam did not deserve any of this, it’s so unfortunate. It’s hard to believe he’s gone, doesn’t feel real at all. Him being on this Law&Crime Network is unreal. Rest easy liam payne.
Roger got the drugs as there was a text message in Liam’s phone saying that “6 grams of cocaine would do the work.” Roger took the Rolex.
Don’t worry Liam s dad knows none of this adds up 😢 someone s hurt him RIP such a lovely man with a kind heart ❤️ this should never have happened to him
I smell a rat
Whe he stood infront of elevator with his laptop, he no longer had a watch
Liam was murdered...hope justice prevails. I feel a few were involved rip
Time will tell...
The picture is an obvious setup
Joseph Scott Morgan is a brilliant man in his profession.
When is the extradition taking place
Something is fishy about the friend, if he was stayin with him the duration of being in the country [the gf leaves] and then now he’s in a hotel room? Then you say “he was with 15 people joking”….so he’s with 15 random strangers and you think this constitutes your negligent behavior to whom you call is your supposed friend?…I wouldn’t call that too friendly. I’d call that careless or ignorant
And he was brought to Argentina for murder.
@Megnluv from what I saw of Liams so called friends interview, he didn't give a toss about Liams wellbeing. He seemed very distant towards Liam.
..probably under orders from SC
@ yeah, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see he has some fault! It’s almost comical
Hotel staff stole the watch and he fought them hence his injuries
In the USA they have the rule that bars can’t over serve. This is also the one serving alcohol responsible for the actions of someone else. Giving someone drugs and knowing that they are not in their mind anymore is something similar.
No one ever mentions how he was perved on and groomed by Cheryl Cole. He was 14 when they met. Men are vicitims too.
It has to do with something he knew and seen. Research it guys.
But what about the scream and missing watch ?
I think he was already dead and someone threw him over wanting it to look like a self end. Maybe he o’d or they got into it but I don’t think he threw himself over.
Then there will be DNA and foot prints.
It was murder
Brian, is a lier.
I hope it’s easier to get a conviction for a Depraved Heart murder in Argentina than it is in the US.
Strange is when they call ambulance not police😁😭💔
The more people close to Liam & officials trip over themselves in comments, the clearer it looks that Liam was set up to look like he did this to himself. But they TOTALLY underestimated the LOVE for Liam worldwide. We won't stop til JUSTICE FOR LIAM... and his loving family. THANK YOU for your continued questioning.
I don't understand how anyone could fall off a balcony
Wasnt he having issues with the record company just weeks before this ? , the record company seems to have come out of the deal scott free now
Mental illness sucks I know because I suffer from it
No matter they will find out, we loss wonderful soul that we can’t bring his back.