It's so cool to see the video version of this pilot-it's so much richer and warmer than the kinescope, and is a different experience. I am excited to see "fresh vintage" pilots from you all again! Please keep them coming-and thank you!
I think I would have liked this better if the regular game used the same dice in the bonus game, instead of those giant electronic dice. Still, it's nice to see some of these unsold pilots.
This was made just after "The Joker's Wild" left the CBS daytime schedule after a 3-year run. And this looks like a Barry and Enright production, just like TJW was. Even has the same announcer and host. And, the same "winner music"!
So that would make this 1975-'76. After a year of reruns in syndication, TJW would return for a nine-season run in first-run syndication from 1977-'86 with Bill Cullen taking over after Jack Barry passed away in 1984 in what also would be Cullen's last game show as a host.
I believe this game was supposed to replace the failure known as "Blank Check" (the less said about that show, the better), but NBC seemed to go with "The Magnificent Marble Machine", instead. However, it was interesting that this game is going to be played on Game Show Marathon #7, hosted by Cory Anotado, Christian Carrion, Bob Hagh and Rich Liebig.
If I remade this, I'd reverse the bonus game and front game. Each roll in the front game adds $25 per point rolled to the pot, first to repeat a number loses, winner gets the money. First to win 2 games plays the bonus game: where you try to place 6 numbers in order pot starts at $250, each safe roll doubles the pot placing all 6 wins $16,000 and a prize.
"In a moment..." is the beginning of the intro to the 1990s reboot of another Barry/Enright show, Tic Tac Dough. (Sound familiar,. Mr. Martindale?) That TTD reboot was announced by Larry Van Nuys. Johnny Jacobs sounds like him, kinda sorta.
Possible tech staff, since I'm told it was shot at CBS in LA: Associate Director SANDRA F. FULLERTON Production Supervisor LORETTA TOWNSLEY Lighting Director JOHN BEAM Technical Director CHARLES FRANKLIN Audio DON HELVEY Stage Managers JIM RICE, HARRY ROGUE
It plays like a reverse of "High Rollers" -- putting numbers on instead of taking them off. Even the rounded-edge dice in the bonus game look like the ones from HR. Perhaps the similarities are partially why this pilot didn't sell.
"We've Got Your Number" was too similar in game play to NBC's "High Rollers" originally hosted by Alex Trebek. Great suspense created by Jack Barry here but, it is easy to see why this pilot did not get picked up.
12:39 Looks like “this program was edited for” non-telecast. Notice how Jack's fingertips are slightly over the edge of the table before the overhead shot shows them pulled slightly back.
The contestants in these pilots always seem to win the maximum prize. I think that's done to help sell the pilot. I wonder if these pilot contestants are actors and the games are rigged. Pilots not intended for broadcast probably fall outside the purview of federal game show regulations. Of course, that also means the actors don't get to keep their prizes. Bummer!
It is my understanding with these game shows that the contestant doesn't get paid until the show airs, so if the pilot is never aired, they get nothing.
Pilots are seldom played for the prizes stated. Think of how many have "returning champions." Also, they often cast actors as contestants. As such it is perfectly legal to rig them, although not all of them were.
No it was more about, answering trivia questions. Then placing numbers in sequential order, from low to high. Ergo snake eyes being 2 is low, and box cars doubles sixes are the highest you can roll.
You're probably thinking of "Your Number's Up" - a one-season summer replacement around 1984-1985 (I forget which year off the top of my head) and was hosted by Nipsey Russell.
That is typical of most game show pilots, as I recall reading elsewhere. It was designed to demonstrate how the end game works as part of the sales pitch to networks/syndicators.
That "Susan" at first looked like Susan Richardson from "Eight Is Enough." I wonder... A lot of actors and actresses got their start appearing on game shows back then.
Given the choice between this and _High Rollers_ - I'll take _High Rollers_ any day. And at 25:00: a game show announcer co-creating a game show? *That's* a first...
SOS became the international Morse code distress signal for its simplicity: three dots, three dashes, three dots, a distinct pattern instantly recognized. The letters themselves don't stand for anything. Just as an aside, the international voice distress call "May Day" is from the French "Me Aidez" or "Help me."
In-keeping with Barry/Enright's apparent policy of ripping off existing games (in this case High Rollers). Anyone notice that they seemed to take off games from other producers that could be said to have taken inspiration from B-E games in the past? This/HR and Break the Bank/Hollywood Squares after Merrill Heatter with Hollywood Squares/Tic Tac Dough, and (to a lesser extent) Gambit/21, and then Hot Potato/Family Feud after Goodson Todman with Child's Play/Hollywood's Talking? It's almost as if Jack took offence to his own games being copied...
This show is nonsense. Winning and taking a roll is often a detriment. Freezing is the right decision far more than the contestants realize. At the end the champ makes a decision not to freeze when he's a favorite to lose if he rolls (42% to win). For the challenger to win she needs to answer three questions. If you assume she's 80% to answer each question right, the champ is already more likely to win (49% to win) before figuring out if she can roll. But even more, she's actually only about 11% to survive if the roll if she can answer every question. Multiply those together, and he traded in about a 94% chance to win for a 42% chance to win.
Electronic dice...jack Barry what could POSSIBLY go wrong
It's so cool to see the video version of this pilot-it's so much richer and warmer than the kinescope, and is a different experience. I am excited to see "fresh vintage" pilots from you all again! Please keep them coming-and thank you!
This was a very creative game show that never aired. I would have loved to see a whole season of this gameshow.
I second your take.
It’s amazing how Wink can find these rare gems of game shows.
I think I would have liked this better if the regular game used the same dice in the bonus game, instead of those giant electronic dice. Still, it's nice to see some of these unsold pilots.
This was slightly similar to Card Sharks, with the order prediction, no number duplication and the "freeze" option.
This was made just after "The Joker's Wild" left the CBS daytime schedule after a 3-year run. And this looks like a Barry and Enright production, just like TJW was. Even has the same announcer and host. And, the same "winner music"!
So that would make this 1975-'76. After a year of reruns in syndication, TJW would return for a nine-season run in first-run syndication from 1977-'86 with Bill Cullen taking over after Jack Barry passed away in 1984 in what also would be Cullen's last game show as a host.
That 70s speed boat is really cool
favourite Unsold Game Show Pilot of all-time.
All right! At long last, the videotaped version of We've Got Your Number. Thanks, Wink! BTW, I'm a longtime fan of Tic Tac Dough.
I believe this game was supposed to replace the failure known as "Blank Check" (the less said about that show, the better), but NBC seemed to go with "The Magnificent Marble Machine", instead. However, it was interesting that this game is going to be played on Game Show Marathon #7, hosted by Cory Anotado, Christian Carrion, Bob Hagh and Rich Liebig.
I'm sure, Wink, that you must've loved this host, having worked for him on Tic Tac Dough, which he co-produced.
If I remade this, I'd reverse the bonus game and front game. Each roll in the front game adds $25 per point rolled to the pot, first to repeat a number loses, winner gets the money. First to win 2 games plays the bonus game: where you try to place 6 numbers in order pot starts at $250, each safe roll doubles the pot placing all 6 wins $16,000 and a prize.
"In a moment..."
is the beginning of the intro to the 1990s reboot of another Barry/Enright show, Tic Tac Dough. (Sound familiar,. Mr. Martindale?)
That TTD reboot was announced by Larry Van Nuys. Johnny Jacobs sounds like him, kinda sorta.
I think this should have sold. But then again I’m a unusual game show fan.
9:22 This set is dangerous. Look out, Jack.
9:28 Ummm.. now this set is just tacky.
9:35 Really? The chandelier? Come on.
Yeah, the set was... *something.* Lol.
@@jmiller297 eh, it was the 70s.
This might be the first time the original video version of the pilot has been seen, as all the other versions on the web are color kinescopes.
Actually, the videotape version did, in fact, make it to the circuit. It just never made it to YT since the kinescope copy remained dominant.
I agree. The motion looks smoother and the colors look more vibrant.
I bet those dice and the table wound up in that custody of Alex Trebek.
Wow That was a Great Game! Wish it would have Sold!
Possible tech staff, since I'm told it was shot at CBS in LA:
Associate Director SANDRA F. FULLERTON
Production Supervisor LORETTA TOWNSLEY
Lighting Director JOHN BEAM
Technical Director CHARLES FRANKLIN
Audio DON HELVEY
Stage Managers JIM RICE, HARRY ROGUE
It plays like a reverse of "High Rollers" -- putting numbers on instead of taking them off. Even the rounded-edge dice in the bonus game look like the ones from HR. Perhaps the similarities are partially why this pilot didn't sell.
7 spins. First spin is on us. Jack barry in the bonus game. Jack got his game shows mixed up. Lol its a pilot. 956 and 1009.
Theme music: "Speed Speed Speed" by Alan Parker and Alan Hawkshaw.
Too bad it didn't sell. The bonus set with chandeliers looks to have inspired card sharks 2019 set
M W A show in 2019 borrowing set design from an unsold pilot from the 70s? I think not. 🤨
Bill's prize is National Lampoon's European Vacation in reverse!
But I'll bet he wasn't as disastrous out there as Mr. Dutybrain was.
Three European cities in two weeks? Keep those bags packed.
I give this game show 3.5 out of 5
"Based on an idea from Rich Jeffries ..." -- *that* Rich Jeffries? The one that went on to be an announcer?
Oh, what could have been, though you wonder whether "High Rollers" not long afterwards was what caused this pilot to get shelved.
And a complicated format too.
My brother Philip and I would have watched this
This is James Greek and Johnny sure didn't announce the color TV won
10:07 “Your first ‘spin’ for $400.” I think Ol’ Jack Barry had ‘The Joker’s Wild’ mixed up with this.
"We've Got Your Number" was too similar in game play to NBC's "High Rollers" originally hosted by Alex Trebek. Great suspense created by Jack Barry here but, it is easy to see why this pilot did not get picked up.
I hate the electronic dice.
The game itself is kinda meh, But the set is incredible for 1975 especially the way it moves into the bonus game!
12:39 Looks like “this program was edited for” non-telecast. Notice how Jack's fingertips are slightly over the edge of the table before the overhead shot shows them pulled slightly back.
Goodness...That bonus round set...
Half "Press Your Luck," half "High Rollers." Sorta.
Fresh out of the cancellation of the original Joker's Wild.
9:19 change of room
The contestants in these pilots always seem to win the maximum prize. I think that's done to help sell the pilot. I wonder if these pilot contestants are actors and the games are rigged. Pilots not intended for broadcast probably fall outside the purview of federal game show regulations. Of course, that also means the actors don't get to keep their prizes. Bummer!
It is my understanding with these game shows that the contestant doesn't get paid until the show airs, so if the pilot is never aired, they get nothing.
I believe that they make it easier to show what the game looks like. It's a giant advertisement for networks.
Pilots are seldom played for the prizes stated. Think of how many have "returning champions." Also, they often cast actors as contestants. As such it is perfectly legal to rig them, although not all of them were.
Yes, pilots are often staged and the contestants do not receive announced prizes.
I love Jack berry
It must be a game show about people's phone numbers right?
No it was more about, answering trivia questions. Then placing numbers in sequential order, from low to high. Ergo snake eyes being 2 is low, and box cars doubles sixes are the highest you can roll.
You're probably thinking of "Your Number's Up" - a one-season summer replacement around 1984-1985 (I forget which year off the top of my head) and was hosted by Nipsey Russell.
Wink-The first female contestant looked like Susan Richardson (Eight Is Enough) the second like Sally Field.
Must be something about your eyes. I've seen Susan Richardson and Sally Field, and those two ladies on the show looked nothing like them.
David Spade played a game show pilot contestant under a fictitious name. Kirstie Alley did several game shows before making it big.
Fix was in on the bonus round. Understandable for a pilot.
How did/would they have fixed bonus round?
That is typical of most game show pilots, as I recall reading elsewhere. It was designed to demonstrate how the end game works as part of the sales pitch to networks/syndicators.
That "Susan" at first looked like Susan Richardson from "Eight Is Enough."
I wonder... A lot of actors and actresses got their start appearing on game shows back then.
No she would have been too young.
Given the choice between this and _High Rollers_ - I'll take _High Rollers_ any day.
And at 25:00: a game show announcer co-creating a game show? *That's* a first...
What year was this?
1975, of course.
The only thing that made it was the bonus round win cue (used for the first season of syndicated "Joker").
Not bad
....Joker.....JOKER!........and Game Show Failures.
At 12:57 is that a 'f--- yeah'?
based on him covering his mouth right after saying it, I'm gonna say yes. lol.
So what the heck *does* SOS stand for?
It doesn’t stand for anything, it’s Morse code which goes like this...
. . . _ _ _ . . .
SOS became the international Morse code distress signal for its simplicity: three dots, three dashes, three dots, a distinct pattern instantly recognized. The letters themselves don't stand for anything. Just as an aside, the international voice distress call "May Day" is from the French "Me Aidez" or "Help me."
@@joeschizoid7762 I thought it stood for "Save Our Ship."
(watching the game now... it doesn't?)
Joe Schizoid s
S.O.S actually didn't stand for anything
Is it just me, or did I hear the hymn "I'll Fly Away" as the announcer background music?
14:30 Is it grand prize after paying taxes?
In-keeping with Barry/Enright's apparent policy of ripping off existing games (in this case High Rollers).
Anyone notice that they seemed to take off games from other producers that could be said to have taken inspiration from B-E games in the past? This/HR and Break the Bank/Hollywood Squares after Merrill Heatter with Hollywood Squares/Tic Tac Dough, and (to a lesser extent) Gambit/21, and then Hot Potato/Family Feud after Goodson Todman with Child's Play/Hollywood's Talking? It's almost as if Jack took offence to his own games being copied...
Tic Tac Dough first aired in the 1950s, hosted by (I believe) a couple people including Jack Barry. Hollywood Squares first aired in the 1960s.
@@steve760The Original Hollywood Squares came out in October of 1966 after the pilot in 1965.
I could see why this wasn't sold, sorry to say.
This is a May '75 pilot episode of the American "We've Got Your Number" program. 🇺🇲 🇺🇲
Thanks ...I always love to know the date
Other than the bonus round and the cool (per 1970s standards) set, the show is terrible.
The set may have worked in the early 1980's.
This show is nonsense. Winning and taking a roll is often a detriment. Freezing is the right decision far more than the contestants realize.
At the end the champ makes a decision not to freeze when he's a favorite to lose if he rolls (42% to win). For the challenger to win she needs to answer three questions. If you assume she's 80% to answer each question right, the champ is already more likely to win (49% to win) before figuring out if she can roll. But even more, she's actually only about 11% to survive if the roll if she can answer every question. Multiply those together, and he traded in about a 94% chance to win for a 42% chance to win.