If my memory is correct he used a database. A large database at that, I expect healthy user bias is huge. Those who minimize sugars, who eat whole foods and exercise. Omega 6 is essential, the source of it is important. Oxidation would need to be isolated in regard Omega 3 & 6 .
@@Cacheola Absolutely. Not covered. And no links provided to studies referenced. Also Dr Harris claims Omega-6 oils are 'essential', meaning I guess that without them you'd be unhealthy or dead. But he refers to the carnivorous diets of indigenous peoples (presumably the Inuit) and the complete absence of T2D, cancer, heart disease & dementia when they were living on their ancestral (natural) diet. There are NO carbs in the Canadian North: none. What would have been the source of Omega-6 oils in their diet? SO many questions this interview raises. VERY POORLY DONE VID. I'm disappointed with Dr. Boz's lack of effort & thought on this one. She does this too often.
Degradation and oxidation is definitely a huge problem. I think that the ratio of omega-3 to omega-6 is as important. The recommended ratio of omega-3 to omega-6 is 2:1 to 4:1. The average Western diet is 1:15 or even 1:20. I'd rather eliminate the omega-6 then spend a lot of money on supplements.
Seed oils available in market are poison. It is the main cause of inflammation. The best fat is Olive oil, walnuts, Pistachio and Ghee when used in moderation.
The point is for Dr. Boz to sell a lot of products to the gullible. Are you influenced? Were you engaged? Buy my products! What, you don't think so? Ask yourself: why would she and her interview subject Dr Harris spend almost 40 minutes referencing a series of medical studies they present as absolutely conclusive, but provide NO links to them or identify them in the text accompanying the video title? They're not referenced. There are no links. NONE. She didn't neglect to include LOTS of links to buy her products, though. Guess what's really important to Dr. Boz?
@@kenyaalure4524 With respect, I no longer think so. Used to. Now I think she's someone who discovered during COVID & a hurricane that practicing medicine is a pain - it's much easier to build a UA-cam business & tout products. I can forgive that if she cares about what she broadcasts, but this video is one of several that scream she just wants to pump them out. I'm left with WAY too many unanswered obvious questions about the material. And considerable irritation that she couldn't even be bothered to reference the studies she & her subject Dr Harris think are so conclusive. Lots of links to buy her products, though.
I work as a chef and we put Rapeseed oil (Canola) fortified with silicone in the deep fat fryers , and I have been in kitchens where this oil (with top ups) is on high heat 16 hours a day for 5-6 days if no ones bothering to clean regularly, and its black. I really try not to eat anything thats cooked in them ,it's got to be toxic . At home I use butter , Extra virgin olive oil and cold pressed rapeseed oil .it's used once and discarded ...I don't know all the science except the less processed and natural food is the better it will be for us.
My plumber told me that the worst jobs he has to do are blockages in restaurant kitchens. I didn't ask him, but I'm assuming that it is worsened/caused by the oils that they use.
There’s lots of money in keeping seed oils on the shelf. Don’t believe the propaganda. Eat what your ancestors ate - lard and butter. Something you aren’t adapted to eat can only cause problems. It may take years for those problems to get bad enough to present as disease (quickly blamed on something else by the corrupt med establishment). I’ll stick with the old ways. Feel better on real food (aka meat, eggs and some dairy - rest is toxic waste).
@@kiwikim5163 I have noticed that since getting my inflammation right down that when I have something that does cause me inflammation I notice it quite quickly. It's like black and white compared to dark grey and medium grey.
Whew. Remember, Dr Boz, we have to sift buku clickbait, you gotta tell us what you are gonna tell us, TELL US, then tell us what you told us and STOP. I haven't 20 minutes (watch you at 2X speed) to find out if you are clickbait or not! Respect! a two way street.
@@actuallywhatimeant2583 Since you pointed it out, Dr Boz is pretty good, but, it DOES seem a lot of ...enamoring... of each other went on, so she did not keep it short and tight, enjoying the palaver. I don't think I got a lot out of it, having studied O-3-O6 ratios at length, but some may derive insight. I will say she seemed doubtful about seed oil dangers, now is investigation stage, so she does not shun what she does not understand, that is admirable.
I couldn't disagree more. I love the in depth deep dives. Dr Boz has other shorter videos if you just want something quick. Ones like this one are great for those of us who want to go deep and really understand the topic.
Yeah don’t eat petroleum oils. Did you know that in history that some machines have been lubricated by animal fats …so if lubricants for machines in your criteria, then you are eliminating animal fats too? What machines today are using seed oils for lubricators?
Hello Dr. Boz! Humanity has been eating unprocessed food for 100,000 years and more and many of the diseases that are currently exploding were almost unknown. Now we can see that since the introduction of highly processed foods, people all over the world are becoming increasingly sick. Of course, omega-6 fatty acids are essential, but I will continue to eat unprocessed foods because they contain everything we need to live. Merry Christmas and best regards from Germany
Hexane is used to extract seed oil from the crushed seeds and trace amounts of hexane remain in seed oils. The levels are below what regulatory agencies consider hazardous, but knowing that the United States considers many food additives safe when European nations consider the same additive harmful, makes me wonder if these hexane levels really are safe.
He may have changed your mind, but he didn’t Mine only because with family in the industry the manufacturing of this product is suspect and it needs to be investigated deeply, and it’s not worth the chance when they were good alternatives, merry Christmas have a good holiday. Love your show.
After reading your comment I'm not even going to bother watching the video. I have checked out the process for creating the oils so have a fair idea of what they do to produce it. Also I have read comments by other people that when they consume them after not using them they notice a difference in their joint pain. Steve from Serious Keto has had this happen on several occasions. Now that I have my inflammation down and feel good most of the time, I think the oils cause the same issue for me. I've just decided to try to not consume them. If I happen to have a tiny amount I don't stress over it but I've been enjoying how much better I feel. And Merry Christmas from Australia.
Seed oils are UNSTABLE in oxygen. As an example, let's take flax oil. Store-bought flax oil tastes bitter and funky even if it is organic. Flax oil goes rancid very quickly, when exposed to oxygen. By the time you buy it, God knows when the oil was extracted, and the bottle is not filled to the top, no, it has an inch of air in it. I use to get flax oil in small amounts that was from a local business. They extracted and bottled the oil on Mondays. I would use it up within a week (250 ml. bottle). It was nutty with no rancid, bitter taste. Store bought seed oils that are already rancid cause free radicals at the cell level. I will not use any seed oil, no matter what some "expert" says.
Flax is one of those super foods that turns out is super toxic. Seeds are all protected by natural defense toxins. Oxylates are terrible for brain fog and there are many defense chems we don’t know about. Eat meat and be healthy.
You are so compromised. Listen to how Bill Harris talks. He never addresses the negatives of consuming an abundance of omega-6 fatty acids. Unbelievable how you and Bill Harris skirt around what is happening. Bill Harris is also the guy who encouraged the consumption of trans fatty acids.
There are trails from the 1980’s that show no significant difference between seed oils vs animal fats. In cardio vascular disease. But the people in the control trail of seed oil had a 25% increase in cancer over animal fat control study trail. They never released the study because it was bad for seed oil’s. But it came out 40 years later. Seed oils are alright if cold pressed, it’s the process to make then that makes them toxic.
Wow. The more I listen to the "experts" the less confidence I have in them. They're all over the place! How is a layman supposed to make sense of it all?
I agree, 100%...it is insane. Now, after being thrown from left to right,I am having a good look at what Brian Johnson is doing. Guy has no financial interest and everything is measured and he is transparent. Number don't lie...and blood tests don't lie
Seed oils in isolation may not be that bad but you have to speak in the right context here and ask the right questions. Has it been heated? What are you combining it with (grain, sugar)? How old and rancid is it? Context is everything. So what lens is Dr Harris looking through? You cannot tell me that something manufactured in a refinery originally as a machinery lubricant is now a healthy food product.
If you think extremely processed oils that are subjected to extreme heat and toxic chemicals like hexane, are good for you or are not harmful, then I say, good luck to you. Remember, most studies have an agenda and they are funded by someone that wants to see a specific outcome. We all know that statistics can be used to show almost any wanted outcome through some manipulation. Is it possible that these oils are fine if they aren't subject to over-processing? So, getting them naturally from the seeds and vegetables are okay but processing them to the point of oxidation makes them bad for us....I will continue to avoid seed oils and still feel I need to do more research on fish oil and omega 3's. I think there is still a lot to be discovered on this subject so I will proceed with caution.
Yet all seed oils give me major migraines, make me feel terrible with brain fog, make me super lethargic, and frequently cause me to vomit due to the severity of the migraine. At no point in my life have I had a different reaction to seed or soybean oil. Yet this is supposed to be good for you? Something is seriously wrong with this research. I have never had such issues from natural, unprocessed fats like tallow, lard, organic virgin coconut oil, and high polyphenol olive oil. The second these processed seed oils enter my system, they wreak havoc. If it makes me physically ill with a migraine, I have gotta wonder what it's doing to my liver and heart. Eating nuts and seeds is fine for me, but processed oils are not. I think there is a major difference between eating nuts and seeds to highly processed vegetable and seed oils
Those nuts/seeds should be avoided too. Natural defense chemicals give brain fog/anxiety/depression to many people. Try eliminating them and see. Everything should be tried like this. Eliminate and see what makes you feel bad/good. Problem is the delay in what you eat and feeling bad later so these eliminations have to last several weeks to be sure you are cleaned out.
Before you believe one “expert”, I suggest looking at the preponderance of evidence. Research funded by the food industry creates a conflict of evidence. I also question medical journals that are selective in what they publish because they too have a conflict of interest.
I don't think most people fear seed oils will kill them on the spot. Linolenic acid can be gotten from grass fed beef, pastured egg yolks, flax seed ect. without it being married to GMO, extreme heat/chemical extraction.
Thanks for the talk, but I'm definitely not going back to that bottle of Wesson or margarine. As far as I can tell, with multiple lab tests, my carnivore body IS NOT pining away for seed oils or more Om6
I appreciate questioning everything, but .... the book "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz made a convincing argument against polyunsaturated fats in chapter 4 The Flawed Science of Saturated versus Polyunsaturated Fats. This nice fellow sounds more like Keys and Stamler.
The problem is heating O6, filtering it, and reheating it over and over again like many families and restaurants do to save money. Don't mess with the double bonds. The body knows the harmful effect of the deformed double bonds in O6.
I like 5w30,,but i usually just put it in the engine of my car,,what? You say eat some on your salad? Umm, no thanks, im ok with that nasty butter and olive oil.
One always has to question where the funding comes from for any food based research, we know that the funding stops if the funder ( usually big corporations) doesn’t get the answers it wants.
Thanks for redoing this video/talk Dr. Boz, 1. It's easy to find Sardines packed in water or olive oil. No need to worry about Sardines packed in seed oils with just a little planning. (I can even get them at the dollar store, so no biggie.) 2. I hope that your upcoming Interview is with Dr. Cate, and I also hope that you don't treat it as a "debate" just a discussion, kind of like you did with Bill. 3. I'f you do get Dr. Cate on to discuss seed oils, please try to do a follow up Debate between Bill and Cate. That would be fantastic. I'm convinced that refined seed oils, processed carbs, and other contaminates are an, if not the, leading cause of metabolic disease in the Super Sick States of America. Thanks for all you do! 🙏 Peace, Love, Health, and Freedom, to all who are fortunate enough to strive for these goals. 🙏 ct
Went to consult an 'expert'. The problem we have in this 'modern. society, is that everyone is an 'expert'. Thalidomide was made by 'experts'. I'm fecking sick of 'experts'. It's how we got into this mess in the first place.
Based on my own reading of studies, I long ago decided that the modern American diet was insufficient in Omega 3 and that we consume too much corn, soy, and seed oils that are heavily processed. I come at health from an evolutionary perspective. Our ancestors first ate fruits, berries, and seeds, then meats, much later came sedges and roots, then in the last 12,000 years grains and dairy. It's obvious that unprocessed seeds that humans were long made to consume are healthy, not so processed grains, soy, canola. Ancient populations processed and fermented or mixtalized the first two to make them edible, but processed anything nowadays is suspect for poisions and pollution and denuded of nutrition, which is the opposite of what ancient processing does, i.e. remove poisons and antinutrients.
It's not all about the reheating, opposite to what some comments point out. Some seed oils are only good for salads, like organic sesame oil, or also as medicine: a spoonful before eating, like organic flaxseed oil. Cooking I'd still prefer olive and coconut oils, butter, ghee and tallow. We have enough Omega 6, and it stays really long in the cells, too.
The seed oil process alone is scary with hexane!!!! Just as many bright minds say it’s not good for us I think I’ll just error on side of caution and avoid it! Thanks for the video
A lot of us have anecdotal evidence that we’ve improved when cutting out seed oils. If we have enough anecdotal evidence then it starts to hold some weight…
I've been eating alot of walnuts and fish lately and I look/feel amazing, skins better than ever. people always recommend grassfed beef and hey that gives me inflammation, acne, rash, sure it sounds good on paper but I feel and look better without it. we don't really understand all the mechanisms behind food and I recommend everyone to experiment with different diets keep an open mind to find what works for you.
I find pastured cattle to lean and tough. All cattle are taken to slaughter too soon. If the pastured cattle could live to age five it would have time to lay down some beautiful, healthy fat.
So how did we manage to avoid cardiovascular disease and stay healthy and survive for thousands of years with no significant rates of heart disease, before the invention of machine lubricant/ highly prossed toxic seed oils? And there is no way people are not consuming enough omega-6 fatty acids when it's in everything but yet cardiovascular disease is still on the r🤔
@@ActivateMission2ThisTimeline It took me a while to work out what you were saying there, I thought you meant oil+carbs prevented heart disease at first😅
It seems to me that the whole concern over oxidation of processed seed oils when frying with them is entirely missing from this conversation. From what I’ve heard elsewhere (Mainly Dr Paul Mason and Dr Dr Ken Berry, both MDs) this is the primary issue with seed oils. There’s also the likelihood of these oils oxidising while stored, or even during the manufacture process where they’re extracted. It’s the oxidation products which are dangerous not the oils themselves.
I'm not sure if epedimioligy studies or observational studies are the right studies to base decissions on. Especially following the remarks around epedimioligy from people like Dr Shawn Baker, Dr Ken Berry, Dr Phillip Ovaidia.
Crohn keto person here. I got great results with very well thought out fiber mix. This is how consensus a science chatgpt app reacts too my mix: Conclusion A 36g blend of psyllium, resistant starch, rice bran, PHGG, pectin, and oat beta-glucans would likely promote a microbiome associated with health by fostering beneficial bacteria, enhancing SCFA production, and supporting metabolic health. This combination leverages the unique and complementary effects of each fiber type. This is the mix I take. First month double amounts I mention, too knock out dysbiosis. I take 6 grams of Sunfiber (partially hydrolyzed guar gum), 8 grams of rice bran (arabinoxylans), 8 grams of pectin, 10 grams of potato starch, and 5 grams of psyllium daily. Beta glucan 750mg from oats.
Unsaturated fats used for frying, like french fries, will be far more susceptible to oxidation and even polymerization than saturated fats, so it may well be that aspect of the massive increase of linoleic acid in our diets is the case, as opposed to linoleic acid that has not been degraded. In addition, there are isomers of linoleic acid and it is not clear to me whether or not the analysis in studies have been able to differentiate the linoleic acid isomers actually being measured.
Everyone here is pushing back on the idea of eating seed oils(understandable), but I'm not seeing how we should truly interpret this. Embrace the pork fat.
Especially that which I cook crispy brown on 2 inch thick, bone in chops~ Yum! Another favorite of ours is "popcorn pork"; fresh pork belly diced & air fried w/good salt. SO darn good. =)
Animal fats provide linoleic acid but may also contain arachidonic acid (AA), a downstream metabolite of omega-6 that's more bioactive and directly involved in physiological functions. No need for seed oils.
Do you at all in your studies and papers take into account how seed oils are processed into existence the chemicals that are being used to help excise the oils are they playing any factors in this????
Dr. Boz is lovely in every way, but she's perhaps a little too gullible. It's good to be able to change your mind when needed, but to me, this IS NOT one of those times. Be careful of who's paying his bills, he does live in up where they grow those soybeans, etc.
The ratio is too skewed between 3 and 6. The reuse of any oil is problematic, especially when it comes to frying in it multiple times. No doubt cold-pressed seed oil would be preferable over the industrially processed version. Global trends Between 1990 and 2019, the number of cancer cases in people under 50 increased by 79% globally. Cancer deaths in this age group also increased by more than 27% Diet: Unhealthy diets can lead to inflammation, which can promote cancer. Gut bacteria: The types and number of bacteria in the gut can be changed by diet, exercise, obesity, and some drugs. Chronic diseases: Some chronic diseases, like Crohn's disease, irritable bowel syndrome, and diabetes, can cause inflammation in the gut.
He’s citing correlational, observational evidence and coming to the conclusion that seed oils contribute to longevity. This is quite a leap. I’ll maybe try some raw sprouted sunflower and pumpkin seeds again but I could in the past they inflamed me and led to addiction. Pork and poultry might be better choices?
Grass-fed beef and milk products contain some omega-3. It also contain more C15 saturated fatty acid, which is a hot topic these days. If both of these fatty acids are lacking in our diets, we might be in trouble...
Look at the incidence of cardiovascular disease in the last 100 years in the USA. Lowest in 1920, this rose to a peak by 1960. Between 1960 and 2020 the curve drops dramatically. By 2020 it's much lower than 1920. That negates the assumption that seed oils caused disease.
having a data based opinion warrants changing it relative to the checks and weights of the data. We should not personally identify with the idea that data promotes, as it leads to personal bias. I am glad to hear DrB. fight against preconceived relationships with data, regarless of the topic. As an aside, I often wonder why we use theoretical concepts of diet resulting from anthropological, archaeological studies as a source more reliable than a comparative analysis of adaptive traits amongst species: such as our length of intestine, jaw and teeth type and array and other adaptive traits that strongly suggest diet - more strongly, for me, than archeological and anthropological evidence at this time. Hunting and gathering occurred, but this seems to be post homo sapiens adaptive physiological evolution. In simple terms: it is no wonder the bacteria of a vulture is designed to support the consumption of carrion. It should be no wonder that the saliva of human is designed to convert starch to sugar (as one of many adaptive trait examples), strongly indicating what we evolved alongside with regard to diet - in that case the consumption of succulent tubers, without the need to chemically alter with heat/cooking to make it safe.
The reports are very misleading. It is the reusing of Seed Oils that are the problem. Example McDonald's French fries. They use it all day not just once. Damage is done each time they add a new batch of french fries. Same for reheating Seed Oil at home. They are asking questions that are ment to be mislead to people. Dr. Harris is talking correlation not causation. 13:40
I’m both fascinated and disappointed by the comments. Everyone is obsessed with mechanisms, manufacturing techniques, and their own personal dogma. These are interesting for social media posts, but ultimately of little relevance to human health. What matters, in the end, is outcomes. As Dr Harris said, and as Dr Boz is realizing, the human outcome data for omega-6’s is pretty good-certainly not the bogeyman some claim. She deserves serious credit for discussing her cognitive dissonance in real time. She’s working hard to keep an open mind, consciously choosing data over dogma. We should all be so willing to change when confronted with compelling evidence.
But the evidence is correlational, not causal. Perhaps some pork and raw low oxalates seeds are in order, but no way am I consuming factory extracted seed oils.
@@kiwikim5163 It's not all correlational--plenty of RCTs show the same benefit. But I think you're misunderstanding the limitations of epidemiologic studies. If linoleic acid is as toxic as people claim, we should be able to detect a signal in observational studies. If the toxic effect is strong, we should see it in every study, with unmistakable hazard ratios, and it should rise proportional to exposure. But we don't. In fact, we see the opposite. Why? Because seed oils are not toxic. You're certainly free to believe that anything purified (seed oils are not made, they're extracted, as you said) in a factory is unfit for human consumption, but that's a belief. It's dogma, not science. There's a good chance a lot of the pork, ground beef, dairy, and butter you enjoy also involved a factory.
Very interesting video - thanks! Is it possible that seed oils, themselves, aren't necessarily bad, but the way they're heated over and over (in fast food fryers, for example) alters their chemical characteristics and changes the way they affect the body? That seems to be the claim that some health influencers make when they point the finger at seed oils, but I've never seen anyone show any direct evidence that our bodies react differently to "fresh" vs "over-heated" seed oils. Has that been studied explicitly?
Dr Boz, Please address the mouth wash issue. I've heard a lot lately from holistic dentists about mouth wash causing heart disease and disrupting the gut biome.
@@1timbarrett Dr Staci Whitman is a member of the children's dentist, but she has an interview here on YT with Jesse Chappus and Season 3, Episode 2: Optimizing Oral Health Alignment with Dr. Staci Whitman April 24, 2024 Designs for Health: "Doctor Staci Whitman is a Functional Kids’ Dentist in North Portland, Oregon. She is the founder of NoPo Kids Dentistry where she takes a whole-body, holistic, and functional approach with her patients. Doctor Staci attended Tufts University School of Dental Medicine and worked as a general dentist for 2 years before earning a certificate in pediatric dentistry from Oregon Health & Science University (OHSU). "
Salt water rinses have been my go-to for years now, after it being recommended post oral surgery, & healing super fast. Speaking with the oral surgeon further, along with my own research, I've learned that good old salt in warm water- I use Redmond's or Celtic sea salt- is superb for pretty much everything oral health related. *Plus, no chemical food dyes, & it doesn't burn the heck out of my mouth while swishing the way regular mouth wash does.
Most nuts are roasted in seed oil. Seeds aren’t good for you. They’re protected by plant defense chemicals. Plants protect their babies with toxins. That brain fog/depression/anxiety you have is from the seeds/nuts you’re consuming.
The fish oil example is a prime example of healthy user bias. EVERY person who takes fish oil does so because they believe it will benefit their health which PROVES that they are the type of person who religiously does things (at least one thing) specifically to benefit their health. If they do this one thing, then the probability that they will follow other health advice is extremely high. They’re less likely to eat excess sugar, they’re more likely to excecise.
Most of America eat deep fried foods ,fried in seed oils, that may be the issue. Is degradation of highly reactive seed oils at high temps and lastly fried carbs in oil making tons of Advance glycation End Products. How many batches of fries in one fryer for the day or couple days before new oil used adding to the amount of these AGE's end products at fast food places.
I think it's safe to assume that even if seed oils aren't poison they are not necessary. Since I eat a whole food diet there aren't any seed oils in it. I'd be more interested in how best to achieve a good ratio eating a natural whole food keto diet.
I wonder how this experts research will affect RFK Jr and his messaging on health and the dangers of seed oils? Does RFK Jr now find himself boxed in? Also, did I miss the part where a recommended ratio of Omega 3 to omega 6 is given?
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The problem is NOT the O6 but the deterioration degradation and oxidation of the seed oils
Yes, that's what I've always read. I don't believe they covered that here
If my memory is correct he used a database. A large database at that, I expect healthy user bias is huge. Those who minimize sugars, who eat whole foods and exercise. Omega 6 is essential, the source of it is important. Oxidation would need to be isolated in regard Omega 3 & 6 .
@@Cacheola Absolutely. Not covered. And no links provided to studies referenced.
Also Dr Harris claims Omega-6 oils are 'essential', meaning I guess that without them you'd be unhealthy or dead. But he refers to the carnivorous diets of indigenous peoples (presumably the Inuit) and the complete absence of T2D, cancer, heart disease & dementia when they were living on their ancestral (natural) diet. There are NO carbs in the Canadian North: none. What would have been the source of Omega-6 oils in their diet?
SO many questions this interview raises.
VERY POORLY DONE VID.
I'm disappointed with Dr. Boz's lack of effort & thought on this one. She does this too often.
Always thought that the low smoke points of many seed oils would lead to more oxidation and trans fats being formed.
Degradation and oxidation is definitely a huge problem. I think that the ratio of omega-3 to omega-6 is as important. The recommended ratio of omega-3 to omega-6 is 2:1 to 4:1. The average Western diet is 1:15 or even 1:20.
I'd rather eliminate the omega-6 then spend a lot of money on supplements.
Were seed oils part of our ancestral diet?
I'll continue to avoid them like the plague
Seed oils available in market are poison. It is the main cause of inflammation. The best fat is Olive oil, walnuts, Pistachio and Ghee when used in moderation.
Omega6 and Omega-3 should have optimum balance in diet
Ditto. Why buy a processed product when butter, lard & tallow serve me perfectly well? 🤔
@@1timbarrett Agree wholeheartedly and they taste a lot better.
@@1timbarrett Pork is certainly the tastiest way to get omega 6
What's the benefit of a processed, 7x heated chemically derived, bleached OIL, NOT fat, over animal fat?? What's the point of this video really?
Dr Boz is truly a treasure, seriously, but this video is a bit baffling
The point is for Dr. Boz to sell a lot of products to the gullible.
Are you influenced? Were you engaged? Buy my products!
What, you don't think so?
Ask yourself: why would she and her interview subject Dr Harris spend almost 40 minutes referencing a series of medical studies they present as absolutely conclusive, but provide NO links to them or identify them in the text accompanying the video title?
They're not referenced. There are no links. NONE.
She didn't neglect to include LOTS of links to buy her products, though.
Guess what's really important to Dr. Boz?
@@kenyaalure4524 With respect, I no longer think so. Used to.
Now I think she's someone who discovered during COVID & a hurricane that practicing medicine is a pain - it's much easier to build a UA-cam business & tout products.
I can forgive that if she cares about what she broadcasts, but this video is one of several that scream she just wants to pump them out. I'm left with WAY too many unanswered obvious questions about the material. And considerable irritation that she couldn't even be bothered to reference the studies she & her subject Dr Harris think are so conclusive. Lots of links to buy her products, though.
Dr Harris hasn't cited any proper studies. Where Dr Chaffie does, so I'm going with the latter.
Exactly. I don’t think I can trust her judgment.
Ok, but why have seed oils when I can have tallow?
I work as a chef and we put Rapeseed oil (Canola) fortified with silicone in the deep fat fryers , and I have been in kitchens where this oil (with top ups) is on high heat 16 hours a day for 5-6 days if no ones bothering to clean regularly, and its black.
I really try not to eat anything thats cooked in them ,it's got to be toxic .
At home I use butter , Extra virgin olive oil and cold pressed rapeseed oil .it's used once and discarded ...I don't know all the science except the less processed and natural food is the better it will be for us.
TY for your input I appreciate your insights
The polymers formed in those industrial seed oils when heated would be of concern 😟 .
My plumber told me that the worst jobs he has to do are blockages in restaurant kitchens. I didn't ask him, but I'm assuming that it is worsened/caused by the oils that they use.
I found this really helpful. Thank you.
Rapeseed oil is toxic until processed?!?
... to sum it all up, "we blamed cholesterol for what sugar did to us" and now we are blaming seed oils for what the Low Fat diet did to us.
well we wouldn't do well with zero sugars and at some point naturally occurring sugars will prolly have been over demonized too
There’s lots of money in keeping seed oils on the shelf. Don’t believe the propaganda. Eat what your ancestors ate - lard and butter. Something you aren’t adapted to eat can only cause problems. It may take years for those problems to get bad enough to present as disease (quickly blamed on something else by the corrupt med establishment). I’ll stick with the old ways. Feel better on real food (aka meat, eggs and some dairy - rest is toxic waste).
Seed oils are a hard no from me. They keep me inflamed
Thank your comment about your own experience. I'm trying to keep my inflammation down to try and slow the progress of arthritis in my spine.
Yes, that is obvious, something is causing that imbalance
I noticed that even sunflower seeds, raw and sprouted (not the green sprouts, inflame me.
@@kiwikim5163 I have noticed that since getting my inflammation right down that when I have something that does cause me inflammation I notice it quite quickly. It's like black and white compared to dark grey and medium grey.
Whew. Remember, Dr Boz, we have to sift buku clickbait, you gotta tell us what you are gonna tell us, TELL US, then tell us what you told us and STOP.
I haven't 20 minutes (watch you at 2X speed) to find out if you are clickbait or not!
Respect! a two way street.
@@actuallywhatimeant2583 Since you pointed it out, Dr Boz is pretty good, but, it DOES seem a lot of ...enamoring... of each other went on, so she did not keep it short and tight, enjoying the palaver.
I don't think I got a lot out of it, having studied O-3-O6 ratios at length, but some may derive insight.
I will say she seemed doubtful about seed oil dangers, now is investigation stage, so she does not shun what she does not understand, that is admirable.
100% correct. So tired of these endless videos that never really come to a firm conclusion!
I couldn't disagree more. I love the in depth deep dives. Dr Boz has other shorter videos if you just want something quick. Ones like this one are great for those of us who want to go deep and really understand the topic.
Merry Christmas from Boondocks Arizona. I aint gonna eat machine lubricant no matter what anybody says. It just aint fittin.
Ditto & same from Benson AZ, it surely ain't Steve~ Merry Christmas!
Yeah don’t eat petroleum oils. Did you know that in history that some machines have been lubricated by animal fats …so if lubricants for machines in your criteria, then you are eliminating animal fats too?
What machines today are using seed oils for lubricators?
@@francostacy7675 I hope the machine oil was a joke as I loved it as a joke
Get the sardines in water, not contaminated with questionable oils. Add melted butter if you must.
Hello Dr. Boz! Humanity has been eating unprocessed food for 100,000 years and more and many of the diseases that are currently exploding were almost unknown. Now we can see that since the introduction of highly processed foods, people all over the world are becoming increasingly sick. Of course, omega-6 fatty acids are essential, but I will continue to eat unprocessed foods because they contain everything we need to live.
Merry Christmas and best regards from Germany
Hexane is used to extract seed oil from the crushed seeds and trace amounts of hexane remain in seed oils. The levels are below what regulatory agencies consider hazardous, but knowing that the United States considers many food additives safe when European nations consider the same additive harmful, makes me wonder if these hexane levels really are safe.
Why are you even entertaining the idea that you can get a shread of relevant data from that epidemiological study?
Because the seed oil company paid for it😅
Yes, a larger sample size does not fix this...
He may have changed your mind, but he didn’t Mine only because with family in the industry the manufacturing of this product is suspect and it needs to be investigated deeply, and it’s not worth the chance when they were good alternatives, merry Christmas have a good holiday. Love your show.
After reading your comment I'm not even going to bother watching the video. I have checked out the process for creating the oils so have a fair idea of what they do to produce it. Also I have read comments by other people that when they consume them after not using them they notice a difference in their joint pain. Steve from Serious Keto has had this happen on several occasions. Now that I have my inflammation down and feel good most of the time, I think the oils cause the same issue for me. I've just decided to try to not consume them. If I happen to have a tiny amount I don't stress over it but I've been enjoying how much better I feel. And Merry Christmas from Australia.
@@jobrown8146 back at you mate
Sorry Boz. Sounds like the food industry got to you. Good bye.
Same here. Not changing my mind. Too many other evidence to show seed oils are harmful.
I agree with you.
Seed oils are UNSTABLE in oxygen. As an example, let's take flax oil. Store-bought flax oil tastes bitter and funky even if it is organic. Flax oil goes rancid very quickly, when exposed to oxygen. By the time you buy it, God knows when the oil was extracted, and the bottle is not filled to the top, no, it has an inch of air in it. I use to get flax oil in small amounts that was from a local business. They extracted and bottled the oil on Mondays. I would use it up within a week (250 ml. bottle). It was nutty with no rancid, bitter taste. Store bought seed oils that are already rancid cause free radicals at the cell level. I will not use any seed oil, no matter what some "expert" says.
Best way to benefit from flax seeds is grind and eat. Keep seeds in freezer
Flax is one of those super foods that turns out is super toxic. Seeds are all protected by natural defense toxins. Oxylates are terrible for brain fog and there are many defense chems we don’t know about. Eat meat and be healthy.
You are so compromised. Listen to how Bill Harris talks. He never addresses the negatives of consuming an abundance of omega-6 fatty acids. Unbelievable how you and Bill Harris skirt around what is happening. Bill Harris is also the guy who encouraged the consumption of trans fatty acids.
He won't change my mind.
Trying to OK seed oils is really grasping
It is not that the oils are bad. It’s the fact that the oils are in every single highly processed food. We have access to.
The oils are bad. Killing people slowly everyday. Pure poison.
What??
Humanity thrived for hundreds of thousands years before seed oils were introduced...but not for a single year since.
There are trails from the 1980’s that show no significant difference between seed oils vs animal fats. In cardio vascular disease. But the people in the control trail of seed oil had a 25% increase in cancer over animal fat control study trail. They never released the study because it was bad for seed oil’s. But it came out 40 years later. Seed oils are alright if cold pressed, it’s the process to make then that makes them toxic.
If you would have based your beliefs on the science and biochemistry in the first place, you wouldn’t be swayed by how “nice and humble” someone is.
Wow. The more I listen to the "experts" the less confidence I have in them. They're all over the place! How is a layman supposed to make sense of it all?
Eat what makes you feel good. Beef and beef tallow.
I agree, 100%...it is insane.
Now, after being thrown from left to right,I am having a good look at what Brian Johnson is doing.
Guy has no financial interest and everything is measured and he is transparent.
Number don't lie...and blood tests don't lie
Seed oils in isolation may not be that bad but you have to speak in the right context here and ask the right questions. Has it been heated? What are you combining it with (grain, sugar)? How old and rancid is it? Context is everything. So what lens is Dr Harris looking through? You cannot tell me that something manufactured in a refinery originally as a machinery lubricant is now a healthy food product.
I stopped seed oils and now i dont sunburn❤🎉
If you think extremely processed oils that are subjected to extreme heat and toxic chemicals like hexane, are good for you or are not harmful, then I say, good luck to you. Remember, most studies have an agenda and they are funded by someone that wants to see a specific outcome. We all know that statistics can be used to show almost any wanted outcome through some manipulation. Is it possible that these oils are fine if they aren't subject to over-processing? So, getting them naturally from the seeds and vegetables are okay but processing them to the point of oxidation makes them bad for us....I will continue to avoid seed oils and still feel I need to do more research on fish oil and omega 3's. I think there is still a lot to be discovered on this subject so I will proceed with caution.
Dr. Box, now that you interviewed this guy, next interview Dr. Catherine Shanahan, MD and then decide.
The massive chemical processing in seed oils renders the whole discussion moot.
Yet all seed oils give me major migraines, make me feel terrible with brain fog, make me super lethargic, and frequently cause me to vomit due to the severity of the migraine. At no point in my life have I had a different reaction to seed or soybean oil. Yet this is supposed to be good for you? Something is seriously wrong with this research. I have never had such issues from natural, unprocessed fats like tallow, lard, organic virgin coconut oil, and high polyphenol olive oil. The second these processed seed oils enter my system, they wreak havoc. If it makes me physically ill with a migraine, I have gotta wonder what it's doing to my liver and heart. Eating nuts and seeds is fine for me, but processed oils are not. I think there is a major difference between eating nuts and seeds to highly processed vegetable and seed oils
Those nuts/seeds should be avoided too. Natural defense chemicals give brain fog/anxiety/depression to many people. Try eliminating them and see. Everything should be tried like this. Eliminate and see what makes you feel bad/good. Problem is the delay in what you eat and feeling bad later so these eliminations have to last several weeks to be sure you are cleaned out.
Before you believe one “expert”, I suggest looking at the preponderance of evidence. Research funded by the food industry creates a conflict of evidence. I also question medical journals that are selective in what they publish because they too have a conflict of interest.
I don't think most people fear seed oils will kill them on the spot. Linolenic acid can be gotten from grass fed beef, pastured egg yolks, flax seed ect. without it being married to GMO, extreme heat/chemical extraction.
Thanks for the talk, but I'm definitely not going back to that bottle of Wesson or margarine. As far as I can tell, with multiple lab tests, my carnivore body IS NOT pining away for seed oils or more Om6
I appreciate questioning everything, but .... the book "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz made a convincing argument against polyunsaturated fats in chapter 4 The Flawed Science of Saturated versus Polyunsaturated Fats. This nice fellow sounds more like Keys and Stamler.
I will continue to avoid the highly processed seed oils. So you can have all the Canola oil you want but not me.
I appreciate the heads up but I am not eating any seed oils any time soon. Love your podcast!
Yes. No matter what, it is always safer to eat natural!
The problem is heating O6, filtering it, and reheating it over and over again like many families and restaurants do to save money. Don't mess with the double bonds. The body knows the harmful effect of the deformed double bonds in O6.
I like 5w30,,but i usually just put it in the engine of my car,,what? You say eat some on your salad? Umm, no thanks, im ok with that nasty butter and olive oil.
Can't wait to see the other side. I really enjoyed the video!
One always has to question where the funding comes from for any food based research, we know that the funding stops if the funder ( usually big corporations) doesn’t get the answers it wants.
Thank you for the video, but I am more confused than ever. Hope you and your family have a blessed Christmas.
What a great Christmas present for us, thanks.
Dr. Harris vs Dr. Berry?
Thanks for redoing this video/talk Dr. Boz,
1. It's easy to find Sardines packed in water or olive oil. No need to worry about Sardines packed in seed oils with just a little planning.
(I can even get them at the dollar store, so no biggie.)
2. I hope that your upcoming Interview is with Dr. Cate, and I also hope that you don't treat it as a "debate" just a discussion, kind of like you did with Bill.
3. I'f you do get Dr. Cate on to discuss seed oils, please try to do a follow up Debate between Bill and Cate. That would be fantastic.
I'm convinced that refined seed oils, processed carbs, and other contaminates are an, if not the, leading cause of metabolic disease in the Super Sick States of America.
Thanks for all you do! 🙏
Peace, Love, Health, and Freedom, to all who are fortunate enough to strive for these goals. 🙏
ct
I second you on all 3 points! Many thanks!
@@MiSs-Keto 🙏
May you and yours be well. 🙏
ct
Instead of just listening to one 'expert', wouldn't it make sense to talk to some expert with the opposite viewpoint before making up your mind?
Went to consult an 'expert'. The problem we have in this 'modern. society, is that everyone is an 'expert'. Thalidomide was made by 'experts'. I'm fecking sick of 'experts'. It's how we got into this mess in the first place.
Dr Harris hasn't cited any proper studies. Where Dr Chaffie does, so I'm going with the latter.
One if your best videos, Dr Boz. Thanks for being willing to keep asking questions...
Great4clicks...
You are acknowledging these are 100% oxidised oils via the high temps in manufacturing right.
Lol , next thing you know you gonna go the Paul saladino way🤭
Guzzle that honey - dude is paid off by someone.
Based on my own reading of studies, I long ago decided that the modern American diet was insufficient in Omega 3 and that we consume too much corn, soy, and seed oils that are heavily processed. I come at health from an evolutionary perspective. Our ancestors first ate fruits, berries, and seeds, then meats, much later came sedges and roots, then in the last 12,000 years grains and dairy. It's obvious that unprocessed seeds that humans were long made to consume are healthy, not so processed grains, soy, canola. Ancient populations processed and fermented or mixtalized the first two to make them edible, but processed anything nowadays is suspect for poisions and pollution and denuded of nutrition, which is the opposite of what ancient processing does, i.e. remove poisons and antinutrients.
When grains became a large part of the diet, bad things happened.
Not sure I can believe one person no matter how qualified. So many docs and influencers out there who disagree. Happy listening though. 👍🇦🇺
It's not all about the reheating, opposite to what some comments point out. Some seed oils are only good for salads, like organic sesame oil, or also as medicine: a spoonful before eating, like organic flaxseed oil. Cooking I'd still prefer olive and coconut oils, butter, ghee and tallow. We have enough Omega 6, and it stays really long in the cells, too.
The seed oil process alone is scary with hexane!!!! Just as many bright minds say it’s not good for us I think I’ll just error on side of caution and avoid it! Thanks for the video
Merry Christmas 🌲🎄 everyone
Merry Christmas from Australia. It's 8.30am Christmas morning here.
A lot of us have anecdotal evidence that we’ve improved when cutting out seed oils. If we have enough anecdotal evidence then it starts to hold some weight…
Omega 6 is one thing but hydrogenated oils are another.
Yup not machine lube for me, I'll stick to real foods thank you. Merry Christmas, and big love to you and yours 💙🎊
I've been eating alot of walnuts and fish lately and I look/feel amazing, skins better than ever. people always recommend grassfed beef and hey that gives me inflammation, acne, rash, sure it sounds good on paper but I feel and look better without it. we don't really understand all the mechanisms behind food and I recommend everyone to experiment with different diets keep an open mind to find what works for you.
🎯N=1
I find pastured cattle to lean and tough. All cattle are taken to slaughter too soon. If the pastured cattle could live to age five it would have time to lay down some beautiful, healthy fat.
@@kiwikim5163 Agreed! Fat's where it's at!
Merry Christmas Dr. Boz!
So how did we manage to avoid cardiovascular disease and stay healthy and survive for thousands of years with no significant rates of heart disease, before the invention of machine lubricant/ highly prossed toxic seed oils? And there is no way people are not consuming enough omega-6 fatty acids when it's in everything but yet cardiovascular disease is still on the r🤔
Good question 👏🏻
I think it's oil+carbs
@@ActivateMission2ThisTimeline
It took me a while to work out what you were saying there, I thought you meant oil+carbs prevented heart disease at first😅
@@ActivateMission2ThisTimeline
Seed oils and sugar for sure.
@@ActivateMission2ThisTimeline Yes, seed oils and sugar
Merry Christmas all
It seems to me that the whole concern over oxidation of processed seed oils when frying with them is entirely missing from this conversation. From what I’ve heard elsewhere (Mainly Dr Paul Mason and Dr Dr Ken Berry, both MDs) this is the primary issue with seed oils. There’s also the likelihood of these oils oxidising while stored, or even during the manufacture process where they’re extracted. It’s the oxidation products which are dangerous not the oils themselves.
It's been a long strange road. Thank You both for soo clearly shinning the light. A very big help as I'm almost getting weary in search of.😊
I'm not sure if epedimioligy studies or observational studies are the right studies to base decissions on. Especially following the remarks around epedimioligy from people like Dr Shawn Baker, Dr Ken Berry, Dr Phillip Ovaidia.
and Paul Mason
@@ActivateMission2ThisTimeline Yes indeed, Including Paul mason. 👍👍
Does the immune system attack cholesterol made from seed oils like the immune system attacks amino acids made from plant protein🤔
It attacks plagues made from oxigenised linoleic acid and sterols from seedoils.
If it's made in a refinery it's not food.
Crohn keto person here. I got great results with very well thought out fiber mix. This is how consensus a science chatgpt app reacts too my mix:
Conclusion
A 36g blend of psyllium, resistant starch, rice bran, PHGG, pectin, and oat beta-glucans would likely promote a microbiome associated with health by fostering beneficial bacteria, enhancing SCFA production, and supporting metabolic health. This combination leverages the unique and complementary effects of each fiber type.
This is the mix I take. First month double amounts I mention, too knock out dysbiosis. I take 6 grams of Sunfiber (partially hydrolyzed guar gum), 8 grams of rice bran (arabinoxylans), 8 grams of pectin, 10 grams of potato starch, and 5 grams of psyllium daily. Beta glucan 750mg from oats.
IeatMeat and my digestive issues are gone.
@@ActivateMission2ThisTimeline Same here. Cutting out most plant fibre helped me enormously. It didn't happen overnight though. Patience is needed.
Unsaturated fats used for frying, like french fries, will be far more susceptible to oxidation and even polymerization than saturated fats, so it may well be that aspect of the massive increase of linoleic acid in our diets is the case, as opposed to linoleic acid that has not been degraded. In addition, there are isomers of linoleic acid and it is not clear to me whether or not the analysis in studies have been able to differentiate the linoleic acid isomers actually being measured.
So, after 40 minutes of video we now know that we do not know, but that was the only thing that we already knew, but now we know that better!
Everyone here is pushing back on the idea of eating seed oils(understandable), but I'm not seeing how we should truly interpret this. Embrace the pork fat.
Especially that which I cook crispy brown on 2 inch thick, bone in chops~ Yum! Another favorite of ours is "popcorn pork"; fresh pork belly diced & air fried w/good salt. SO darn good. =)
Animal fats provide linoleic acid but may also contain arachidonic acid (AA), a downstream metabolite of omega-6 that's more bioactive and directly involved in physiological functions. No need for seed oils.
I have been keto for a few years and still eat olive oil and coconut oil. I have no issues with it.
Excellent guest
Do you at all in your studies and papers take into account how seed oils are processed into existence the chemicals that are being used to help excise the oils are they playing any factors in this????
So…Dr Ben Bikman says “seed oils” raise insulin resistance. Can Dr Harris and Dr Bikman both be correct?
In 2015, my wife of 37 years died of ventricular tachycardia .
Very sorry for your loss!
❤❤ from Canada!
😢 Peace be with you. 🙏
Now do Dr. Thomas Seyfried!
Yes !!!!!!
Dr. Boz is lovely in every way, but she's perhaps a little too gullible. It's good to be able to change your mind when needed, but to me, this IS NOT one of those times. Be careful of who's paying his bills, he does live in up where they grow those soybeans, etc.
grow up not everything a conspiracy…you can not eat seed oils and they still not be as harmful as you think ..it’s ok
I just sent my blood sample to Bill’s lab, omega quant, yesterday. I check mine from time to time.
The ratio is too skewed between 3 and 6.
The reuse of any oil is problematic, especially when it comes to frying in it multiple times.
No doubt cold-pressed seed oil would be preferable over the industrially processed version.
Global trends
Between 1990 and 2019, the number of cancer cases in people under 50 increased by 79% globally. Cancer deaths in this age group also increased by more than 27%
Diet: Unhealthy diets can lead to inflammation, which can promote cancer.
Gut bacteria: The types and number of bacteria in the gut can be changed by diet, exercise, obesity, and some drugs.
Chronic diseases: Some chronic diseases, like Crohn's disease, irritable bowel syndrome, and diabetes, can cause inflammation in the gut.
heated extensively upto 500 degrees f .. genetically modified.. and only in our "food" program since the 70s
Thank you and merry Christmas from he central coast of California.
heart disease has gone down? or death from it due to better interventions.
I believe it’s due to a lot less smoking now.
He’s citing correlational, observational evidence and coming to the conclusion that seed oils contribute to longevity. This is quite a leap. I’ll maybe try some raw sprouted sunflower and pumpkin seeds again but I could in the past they inflamed me and led to addiction. Pork and poultry might be better choices?
Grass-fed beef and milk products contain some omega-3. It also contain more C15 saturated fatty acid, which is a hot topic these days. If both of these fatty acids are lacking in our diets, we might be in trouble...
Look at the incidence of cardiovascular disease in the last 100 years in the USA. Lowest in 1920, this rose to a peak by 1960. Between 1960 and 2020 the curve drops dramatically. By 2020 it's much lower than 1920. That negates the assumption that seed oils caused disease.
You can't sum up like this. Treatments done early, early detection, trans fats, junk food consumption levels, too many variables.
@@ActivateMission2ThisTimeline Smokin!
having a data based opinion warrants changing it relative to the checks and weights of the data. We should not personally identify with the idea that data promotes, as it leads to personal bias. I am glad to hear DrB. fight against preconceived relationships with data, regarless of the topic. As an aside, I often wonder why we use theoretical concepts of diet resulting from anthropological, archaeological studies as a source more reliable than a comparative analysis of adaptive traits amongst species: such as our length of intestine, jaw and teeth type and array and other adaptive traits that strongly suggest diet - more strongly, for me, than archeological and anthropological evidence at this time. Hunting and gathering occurred, but this seems to be post homo sapiens adaptive physiological evolution. In simple terms: it is no wonder the bacteria of a vulture is designed to support the consumption of carrion. It should be no wonder that the saliva of human is designed to convert starch to sugar (as one of many adaptive trait examples), strongly indicating what we evolved alongside with regard to diet - in that case the consumption of succulent tubers, without the need to chemically alter with heat/cooking to make it safe.
Thank you for another great video, Dr. Boz! And wow . . . Dr. Harris is one HELL of a role model for a 76-year-old! Well done, sir.
The reports are very misleading. It is the reusing of Seed Oils that are the problem. Example McDonald's French fries. They use it all day not just once. Damage is done each time they add a new batch of french fries. Same for reheating Seed Oil at home. They are asking questions that are ment to be mislead to people. Dr. Harris is talking correlation not causation. 13:40
I’m both fascinated and disappointed by the comments. Everyone is obsessed with mechanisms, manufacturing techniques, and their own personal dogma. These are interesting for social media posts, but ultimately of little relevance to human health. What matters, in the end, is outcomes. As Dr Harris said, and as Dr Boz is realizing, the human outcome data for omega-6’s is pretty good-certainly not the bogeyman some claim.
She deserves serious credit for discussing her cognitive dissonance in real time. She’s working hard to keep an open mind, consciously choosing data over dogma. We should all be so willing to change when confronted with compelling evidence.
But the evidence is correlational, not causal. Perhaps some pork and raw low oxalates seeds are in order, but no way am I consuming factory extracted seed oils.
@@kiwikim5163 It's not all correlational--plenty of RCTs show the same benefit.
But I think you're misunderstanding the limitations of epidemiologic studies. If linoleic acid is as toxic as people claim, we should be able to detect a signal in observational studies. If the toxic effect is strong, we should see it in every study, with unmistakable hazard ratios, and it should rise proportional to exposure. But we don't. In fact, we see the opposite.
Why? Because seed oils are not toxic.
You're certainly free to believe that anything purified (seed oils are not made, they're extracted, as you said) in a factory is unfit for human consumption, but that's a belief. It's dogma, not science. There's a good chance a lot of the pork, ground beef, dairy, and butter you enjoy also involved a factory.
Very interesting video - thanks! Is it possible that seed oils, themselves, aren't necessarily bad, but the way they're heated over and over (in fast food fryers, for example) alters their chemical characteristics and changes the way they affect the body? That seems to be the claim that some health influencers make when they point the finger at seed oils, but I've never seen anyone show any direct evidence that our bodies react differently to "fresh" vs "over-heated" seed oils. Has that been studied explicitly?
It would not be humane but maybe rats?
Question: Is sugar free peanut healthy ? Ingredients consist of ground peanuts and salt. I heart this and that etc etc etc. Thanks !
Why no mention of omega 6 fatty acids from EVOO? That's the natural source of omega-6s, not toxic seed oils.
Watching from Johannesburg South Africa 🇿🇦👍
Dr Boz, Please address the mouth wash issue. I've heard a lot lately from holistic dentists about mouth wash causing heart disease and disrupting the gut biome.
Lucky you, that you have access to forward-thinking dentists…!
@@1timbarrett Dr Staci Whitman is a member of the children's dentist, but she has an interview here on YT with Jesse Chappus and Season 3, Episode 2: Optimizing Oral Health Alignment with Dr. Staci Whitman
April 24, 2024
Designs for Health: "Doctor Staci Whitman is a Functional Kids’ Dentist in North Portland, Oregon. She is the founder of NoPo Kids Dentistry where she takes a whole-body, holistic, and functional approach with her patients. Doctor Staci attended Tufts University School of Dental Medicine and worked as a general dentist for 2 years before earning a certificate in pediatric dentistry from Oregon Health & Science University (OHSU). "
Salt water rinses have been my go-to for years now, after it being recommended post oral surgery, & healing super fast. Speaking with the oral surgeon further, along with my own research, I've learned that good old salt in warm water- I use Redmond's or Celtic sea salt- is superb for pretty much everything oral health related. *Plus, no chemical food dyes, & it doesn't burn the heck out of my mouth while swishing the way regular mouth wash does.
I eat seeds (nuts) and don't eat refined seed oils
If they’re roasted, the fats are now trans fats.
Most nuts are roasted in seed oil. Seeds aren’t good for you. They’re protected by plant defense chemicals. Plants protect their babies with toxins. That brain fog/depression/anxiety you have is from the seeds/nuts you’re consuming.
The fish oil example is a prime example of healthy user bias. EVERY person who takes fish oil does so because they believe it will benefit their health which PROVES that they are the type of person who religiously does things (at least one thing) specifically to benefit their health. If they do this one thing, then the probability that they will follow other health advice is extremely high. They’re less likely to eat excess sugar, they’re more likely to excecise.
Most of America eat deep fried foods ,fried in seed oils, that may be the issue. Is degradation of highly reactive seed oils at high temps and lastly fried carbs in oil making tons of Advance glycation End Products. How many batches of fries in one fryer for the day or couple days before new oil used adding to the amount of these AGE's end products at fast food places.
Some restaurants used to pour old seed oil thru a filter to reuse the oil many days in a row.
I think it's safe to assume that even if seed oils aren't poison they are not necessary. Since I eat a whole food diet there aren't any seed oils in it. I'd be more interested in how best to achieve a good ratio eating a natural whole food keto diet.
Seed oils bite - but if people want to play Poker, ENJOY THEM.
I wonder how this experts research will affect RFK Jr and his messaging on health and the dangers of seed oils? Does RFK Jr now find himself boxed in? Also, did I miss the part where a recommended ratio of Omega 3 to omega 6 is given?