Thank you, Dr. Boz, for your dedication to helping people. I've been watching your vids today, thinking ... she really IS amazing and one of the few who still cares. I'm sorry I didn't see that at first glance, a few months ago. You're a true leader in prevention care and what I would call a health care WARRIOR! Love & light to you, from Canada.
Very well said Jennifer. I second that. Dr. Boz is brilliant and dedicated to the n’th degree to the health of us all. I plan to get to the Pin Chasers on a Tuesday next time I get to Florida from up here in Ontario.
Cate was one of the first doctors I watched when I began this journey almost 7 years ago. She is just fascinating and makes it all so easy to understand for the layman.
Dr. Boz, I'm glad to see that you invited Dr Cate onto your channel. This should be good! (Commented before watching the show.) Peace, Love, Health, and Freedom, to all who are fortunate enough to strive for these goals. 🙏 ct
Excellent talk! My retina specialist says he doesn’t eat seed oils or allow anyone in his family to eat seed oils. Love Dr Boz’ interjections to better offer better explanations of Cate Shanahan.
So seed oils, Omega 3 and Sugar are playing a game of rock, paper, scissors in our body, and if we eat the wrong proportion we "lose"? Thank you for trying to figure it out, and help the rest of us!
when i was in high school, working at a fast food restaurant, i would take these blocks of lard and put them into the fryer. later they did away with this because lard/fat was supposed to be bad for you and all vegetables are supposed to be good for you. corn oil is just smashed corn, right? guess there's a lot of things they do to corn to alter it so it's not even a vegetable anymore.
No Darin ; watch a video of the process of making seed oils - these omega 6 bonds are definitely oxidized after the process , thus reducing our antioxidant ability. There was never any legitimate evidence to reduce saturated fat but medicine kept saying it anyway and it turns out that these are natural and healthy
I would have liked her to answer why some studies show the higher the linoleic acid in blood the better the health outcomes. I was hoping for this question to be asked till the end of the podcast. I'd love to know her explanation
Thank you Dr Boz for this eye opening discussion with Cate Shanahan! So appreciated both your questions and your sideline explanations. This info needs to reach the general public!
Enjoyable discussion. Thank you both. An unsaturated oil may, in theory, be an antioxidant, but by definition, it's trying to steal electrons. It can do that in your cupboard, and when you use it, it's oxidized, damaged, and causes oxidative damage. Cheers
Omg… this is exactly what I’m struggling with! I have high iron and lots of oxidative stress. I just started donating blood to get rid of some of the iron after being on the carnivore diet and supplements to help boost my minerals. What I’m struggling with is to get into ketosis in any substantial measure. So if there’s a way that I can get rid of this iron faster and get into ketosis faster, I think that could help me heal.
18:50 yes, you often cannot tell what something has been cooked in by tasting it. But some things taste BETTER in corn oil than butter like Perez brand of tortillas :-0)
Maybe I missed it but why didn't you challenge her by mentioning what Doctor William Harris has to say about seed oils? You recently had an interview with him. He gave you homework to do on seed oils. He seems to think it is not harmful at all.
I cannot find an hour to listen to this, especially when it’s taking so much time to get to any point. I was hoping some lovely person would summarize….
Thanks for the quality, interesting, complex interview...I respect the knowledge, intelligence, and humility of this discussion. I think there are cases (adrenal fatigue/exhaustion for example) where stress is more the enemy than sugar or seed oils (well I don't know of such a case where the person ate much seed oil or sugar but anyway) with difficult symptoms... Also, there are folks who eat very healthy (by either you guy's standards) that have died from difficult diseases such as heart attack, cancer etc....diet is hugely important, but I believe a person's energetic (as in chi or prana) is probably even more so...Maybe the complexity of trying to measure energetic factors is why some things will remain mystery...mystery is good chi. I appreciate that you guys seem to agree on the general health recommendation regarding seed oils; it is a really important topic in this uplifting interview.
Explanations are fine, but I was hoping to learn more about the scientific research/actual data that proves the case against seed oil instead of explanation after explanation. -- Like the names and dates of studies- and who conducted them?? - For example, what is the evidence against soy oil? What is the evidence that shows that refined sesame oil is healthy? Where is the scientific evidence that shows there are toxins in seed oils? How are these toxins detected and measured?
If you google " end products of lipid peroxidation" you can find toxic compounds that are found when fats go rancid ( when they are oxidized). 4HNE is kind of a famous one. You can also find data on animal testing with these toxic compounds. There isnt much debate on wether these fats are toxic when they are oxidized. Long lasting human trials on basically any food are nonexistent, unless you take human history as a given. These toxic compounds can technically be found in any fat you may use. However, for example with butter, even if you leave out butter on the countertop at room temp for 2-3 weeks it is barely oxidized and you can still cook with it and use it. You will most definitely know when butter has gone rancid. In the case of these oils however, you know they oxidize very fast when you heat them ( like frying) and you cant really tell when they have gone rancid. Because of the process of making them, they remove the scent and color and give it new scent and color. You can not really tell if a bottle of canola oil is made today or is 6 years old. Even when used as a frying fat it is hard to tell when its gone bad. You can actually find some data on this, if you google on the right keywords. You can also test peroxidation at home if you are willing to spend money on machinery. There is also the fact that seed oils lower cholesterol when you consume them. Dietary cholesterol does not raise cholesterol ( you can actually find clinical trials for this), however consuming dietary seed oils does lower cholesterol. They even advertise with it here in Europe on the packaging. Wether lowering cholesterol is healthy or not is a whole new ballpark and a youtube comment goes to fat too comment on that. Anyway, i am just trying to give you a lead here. Not arguing one way or another. I feel quite a lot better myself after swapping out margarine and seed oil cooking oil for butter.
Studies and the data in them can be manipulated so easily that they are not worth basing your opinions on. Science is science. It is not statistical connivance. Plus there is plenty of evidence that seed oils can contain mycotoxins and repeated heating causes peroxidisation. "The prevalence of mycotoxins in oils varies depending on the type of oil, the geographical area, and the storage conditions of the oilseeds. Some of the main mycotoxins found in oils include aflatoxins, zearalenone, ochratoxin A, trichothecenes, fumonisins, and Alternaria toxins. Mycotoxins are toxic compounds that can be carcinogenic, teratogenic, and mutagenic. They can pose a serious threat to human health, food safety, and environmental safety."
I remember 90s in our village was sold cold pressed sunflower oil, was dark brownish green smelling good, we knew if we not use it quickly, gets terrible smelling so we werent using it.
Avocado oil is heated not pressed! Anyone can take avocado and make oil in the kitchen same with Coconut oil. No chemicals or special equipment needed.
OK here's my post video comment: Dear Dr. Boz, In your summation you got hung up on the lack of distinguishable factors in Omega molecules from seed oils and other sources while leaving out the most important part of Cate's hypothesis. These Refined food-like products, are contaminated by oxidation, stabilizers, etc. during the production process. (Cate left out storage in this short conversation, but did touch on the additives that they use to "stabilize" these very unstable crude oils.) These un-natural ride alongs are driving the mal-adaptations, not the isolated Omega molecules. The point is that these refined food-like products are adulterated non-foods that drive oxidative stress in our bodies. Yes there are pure Omega molecules in these oils which can't be distinguished from other Omega sources at a sub-nanometer scale, but there's a lot more in the bottle than the Omegas. My take away is, regardless of Omega 3 ratios, and other complicated metabolic processes, I avoid all processed, ultra processed, and refined FrankenFoods from the Hateful Eight to the Diabetic Ten... and beyond! This is my understanding of her premise. Peace, Love, Health, and Freedom, to all who are fortunate enough to strive for these goals. 🙏 ct UA-cam ,please don't remove this comment. 🙏
PS. I am very grateful that you invited Dr. Cate onto your Channel as the two of you are major forces in overcoming the chronic illnesses of Royalty that Big Ag, Big, Food, and Big Pharma are practically forcing down our throats in order to maximize profits at the expense of our physical and financial Health. The both of you are doing the work so many shirk and I commend you for it. 🙏🙏🙏
Great comment. I kinda wish she would have expressed this to Cate in the interview instead of to us separately. It seems like she responding to an already framed up idea that wasn’t the same as Cate was presenting. You did a great job explaining it.
Dr. Boz. I thought your insertions of rebuttal / explanations into the interview video was kind of snarky. I've never seen a podcast host do that before. Did your guest realize you were going to do that?
Seed oil is my concern, i don't cook with it but soon i will visit for 2 months my relatives, so hard to say i don't eat your meal there is seed oils, yes traditionally was lamb fat.
As humans, we need to understand that we cannot beat Mother Nature.. science got us in this mess to begin with. I respect that there are many trying to get us out of it, but we just need eat things that are not processed first. As our foods are altered l, the health dangers increase with those alterations. Start with a completely natural diet ( not man made plants) and learn to add one thing at a time and listen to your body’s reaction. Feeling great is easy if you listen to your body and learning to be your own doctor. Keep it simple. Eat to live, don’t live to eat.
I get the camaraderie, but where is the meat. Where is the science you stated would be in this conversation? Dr. Boz I may have misunderstood your sudden flip on Onega 6. Both Omega 3’s & Omega 6’s are essential and should come from an animal source. The animals we consume use to have a 1:1 ratio of omega 3:6. But today because are livestock eat crap is significantly higher in Omega 6’s pushing inflammation. Additionally plant phytosterols or Omega 3& 6 are not the same fats we find in animals. One can eat and survive for a time on vegetables but your not getting the essential fats nor protein one needs.
Hi Dr. Boz. Been looking into this as well, and I just watched 2 presentations on seed oils from 2 doctors on here. The channels are Nutrition Made Simple and Dr. Brad Stanfield. Both guys are extremely evidenced based, and open minded. I would post links, but my comments are generally deleted when I do. Anyway, these guys went through study after study, showing how reducing saturated fat and adding canola, or just adding the oil, improved heart health and other things. Hard to argue with that science, and shift to Cate's theory on how bad they are. Still, frustrating. I want definitive proof. I've almost never felt good. My muscles are always tight and burny. Been a meat eater. Been a vegan. Looking to discover (at 63) how not to die young.
I have very burny slightly achy muscles too (mostly shoulders upper back and neck, but mildly everywhere) , recently saw a rheumatologist and have some sort of vascilitis disease. Prednisone and an immune suppressant is helping alot. Just an idea on something you might check into. I'm also trying everything under the sun to reduce inflammation but honestly nothing has helped except the drugs:(
Before considering the implications of the Om6-Om3 ratio, or alleging that fructose is metabolically less important than seed oils, take a look at how seed oils are made. Using petroleum-industry chemicals, strippers and solvents, high heat treatments (molecular changes), preservatives and dyes. When you eat most seed and nut oils, you are eating industrial chemicals. Anything after that is really not relevant to health until you actually can look at clean, industrial chemical-free and high heat process-free oils. And not all seed and nut oils are the same nor are they made the same way. Opps, there goes both the baby and the bath water.
Thank you for always giving an honest perspective - from all sides - it's so refreshing since so many influencers & experts are skewed to one extreme or another. May I ask, since I am on a very clean, low carb diet, devoid of any packaged food, not in need of losing weight, do I still need to get a certain amount of Omega 6? I ask because Cronometer usually tells me I'm only at 85% (based on their thoughts on what I need)... should I add more walnuts to bring it up to 100% (they think I need 11 grams for my age, weight & height). Thanks so much!
Dr. box, I have been practicing a keto diet for a month now. My carbs are at 20%. I admit I don't always hit my fats or proteins. I weigh 148 pounds and I'm not actually trying to lose weight I'm just trying to lower my insulin resistance ( triglycerides at 130). So far I'm only blowing about .3 ml on the breath meter can you tell me what I'm doing wrong I don't really need to lose any weight at all. In fact, I need to gain some back actually.
I use refined organic coconut oil (no smell or taste), you really can't tell the difference. Fatty meats I cook on stainless steel pan with no oil at all.
Are you kidding? The likely reason the cooking shows don’t tell you which oils they are using is because they could receive severe criticism from people who think certain oils are good or not good. Just think of that the McDonald’s restaurants years ago used to use beef tallow to fry their French fries. They were hounded into changing to the “healthier” vegetable seed oils. other examples could be referenced. So is it really that hotel and some fancy restaurants don’t care and use cheap oils. Cutting costs can only be part of the picture. They may want to avoid the conflict and controversy. Some food managers may be uneducated on some of this. I think it is difficult to know what to believe about some things , and there is a lot of misinformation floating around also.
Maybe they have but because they are mostly paid for by big food companies, they may have not been published. Or maybe the data from the tests were manipulated, not done properly or for long enough. Seed oils can even be beneficial in small doses for a short period (3 months, say) but dangerous over longer ones.
So, the Topic you want to avoid becomes front and center anyway LOL Prior to 1900, how much seed oil did an average person consume in one day? And how much today? Easier availability of something does not mean use of that something should increase, right?
To track Omega-6 sources, we need to get them to use the block chain like bitcoin LOL Every bitcoin looks the same (electronic string of data) but every one is unique.
Dear Dr Boz. I just think it boils down to the fact that Dr Harris hasn't realised the dangers of consuming unnatural man made products like seed oils. Get your omegas 3 and 6 from healthy natural sources as God intended us to do. God Bless you and Dr Kate.
Finally someone who brings up Doctor Harris. Thank you. I asked here in the comments why Doc Boz did not mention Doc Harris and his stance on the seed oils.
@@Pepesplants Make no mistake! She does and has videos with him. All I can gather is that he is right about balancing the omega 3s and 6s, but seems to have overlooked and or not seen the dangers with seed oils or at least the dangers of the processing and consuming them.
I did not know that the language is used on your show is specifically for MD and chemist. I do not have the background on these topics and so it was not helpful. Also The doctor never explained hoe seed oils are made so why are the seeds such as almond sesames' or walnut good for us but the oil is bad? Never got explained after one of lessoning. 01/01/2025
When you made the earlier video with the title of being skeptical of the dangers of seed oils, I almost stopped following you. Please be careful with what you label yourself
"The cells are like, 'Oh cool' .. the cells figured this out. Without a brain." - Wow, talk about a credibility killer. No chance I'm going to buy your book now.
Absolute Tripe. We dont need unsubstantiated opinions and cosy chats. We need a discussion of evidence based on Randomised control trials. With links in the notes please. I really appreciate Dr Boz trying to back away from the seed oil hate and lies But, all this woo woo bs is so incredibly disappointing. Go over to proper science fact based sites like Nutrition Made Simple and Physionic. Watch Gil directly challenge influencers face to face and fact check them in real time. I just dont think Dr Boz is up to the job.
The same scientific "evidence" that once "supported" cigarette smoking, which doctors proudly did in the presence of their patients? Seed oils are simply a modern rendition of the same ideological capture. When you sign your life away to seed oils, banking on them lowering your LDL, what you don't see in the fine print is that they increase the amount of atherogenic lipoproteins in circulation, namely those that have become oxidized, OxLDL not the least of which.
Right, where are the randomized control trials showing safety of industrially produced seed oils? The whole randomized trial standard argument has been over used and overall strict evidence based medicine hasn't made for a healthier population. It's the actual practice of medicine that leads to healthier patients. This means paying attention to nuance and actual mechanisms in the body . Just because there is no evidence doesn't mean it's not true and shouldn't be discussed .
@@paulharrington9673 Where do you and I get our Omega 6? The current war on "seed oils" is an evolving phase of the war on Omega 6, a trendy click-bait strategy for UA-cam health influencers, but irresponsible to advocate. Try living without it. Did you hear the guest: "Seed oils are worse than sugar".
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Anyone can sense the the connection and enthusiasm that these doctors have for the topic of making their patients better. God bless them.
What a joy to see both of my favorite nutrition oriented doctors having a discussion about eating correctly! You are both a blessing to the world.
Two incredible women trying to improve the health of so many!!
Let industrial "vegetable" oils lubricate machinery, not mankind.
Two Doctors honouring their Oaths Great examples to the world of Health
how about every individual takes an oath not to violate their body
@@minkbach9452 Why not
Thank you, Dr. Boz, for your dedication to helping people. I've been watching your vids today, thinking ... she really IS amazing and one of the few who still cares. I'm sorry I didn't see that at first glance, a few months ago. You're a true leader in prevention care and what I would call a health care WARRIOR! Love & light to you, from Canada.
Very well said Jennifer. I second that. Dr. Boz is brilliant and dedicated to the n’th degree to the health of us all. I plan to get to the Pin Chasers on a Tuesday next time I get to Florida from up here in Ontario.
Cate was one of the first doctors I watched when I began this journey almost 7 years ago. She is just fascinating and makes it all so easy to understand for the layman.
Dr. Boz,
I'm glad to see that you invited Dr Cate onto your channel.
This should be good!
(Commented before watching the show.)
Peace, Love, Health, and Freedom, to all who are fortunate enough to strive for these goals. 🙏
ct
Excellent talk! My retina specialist says he doesn’t eat seed oils or allow anyone in his family to eat seed oils. Love Dr Boz’ interjections to better offer better explanations of Cate Shanahan.
So seed oils, Omega 3 and Sugar are playing a game of rock, paper, scissors in our body, and if we eat the wrong proportion we "lose"? Thank you for trying to figure it out, and help the rest of us!
omega 6
when i was in high school, working at a fast food restaurant, i would take these blocks of lard and put them into the fryer. later they did away with this because lard/fat was supposed to be bad for you and all vegetables are supposed to be good for you. corn oil is just smashed corn, right? guess there's a lot of things they do to corn to alter it so it's not even a vegetable anymore.
I did the same at Taco Bell making refried beans. They were so good!
@@cr-iv1elTaco Bell cooks their beans on-site?
Amazing.
What year did the fat change happen?
I just took the meat and taco shells home ,lol
No Darin ; watch a video of the process of making seed oils - these omega 6 bonds are definitely oxidized after the process , thus reducing our antioxidant ability. There was never any legitimate evidence to reduce saturated fat but medicine kept saying it anyway and it turns out that these are natural and healthy
@@mballer good question. i worked at Jack In The Box in 1984, so they changed to seed oils after that.
Hi Dr Boz. Looking forward to this interview!
I would have liked her to answer why some studies show the higher the linoleic acid in blood the better the health outcomes. I was hoping for this question to be asked till the end of the podcast. I'd love to know her explanation
I'm watching this at 7 am on New Years Day. What a positive way to start off 2025. Good job ladies (or should I say girls).😊
Very informative. Thanks for having this guest.
Thank you Dr Boz for this eye opening discussion with Cate Shanahan! So appreciated both your questions and your sideline explanations. This info needs to reach the general public!
Enjoyable discussion. Thank you both. An unsaturated oil may, in theory, be an antioxidant, but by definition, it's trying to steal electrons. It can do that in your cupboard, and when you use it, it's oxidized, damaged, and causes oxidative damage. Cheers
This was great! I will go to Cate's web site thanks for the information!
Excellent interview and great discussion in chemistry inside our bodies
Fantastic. Thank you ladies . Spot on information.
Am glad to hear that tahini (cold ground sesame seeds) not processed nor separated from seeds, is ok. I like my tahini!
Fascinating, thanks so much 😊
Happy New Year 🎉❤
Omg… this is exactly what I’m struggling with!
I have high iron and lots of oxidative stress.
I just started donating blood to get rid of some of the iron after being on the carnivore diet and supplements to help boost my minerals.
What I’m struggling with is to get into ketosis in any substantial measure. So if there’s a way that I can get rid of this iron faster and get into ketosis faster, I think that could help me heal.
I stand with Cate against factory fats. There's nothing wrong with Omega 6 & 3 from whole food sources. For example, a walnut has both.
18:50 yes, you often cannot tell what something has been cooked in by tasting it.
But some things taste BETTER in corn oil than butter like Perez brand of tortillas :-0)
Maybe I missed it but why didn't you challenge her by mentioning what Doctor William Harris has to say about seed oils? You recently had an interview with him. He gave you homework to do on seed oils. He seems to think it is not harmful at all.
I see my question was deleted. 😮😮😮
I detest the "health" ads I get when listening to these videos.
I cannot find an hour to listen to this, especially when it’s taking so much time to get to any point.
I was hoping some lovely person would summarize….
don't worry it's all cr£p.
go and watch Gil Carvalho's analysis instead
Me too😅
Heroes of medicine!
Thanks for the quality, interesting, complex interview...I respect the knowledge, intelligence, and humility of this discussion. I think there are cases (adrenal fatigue/exhaustion for example) where stress is more the enemy than sugar or seed oils (well I don't know of such a case where the person ate much seed oil or sugar but anyway) with difficult symptoms... Also, there are folks who eat very healthy (by either you guy's standards) that have died from difficult diseases such as heart attack, cancer etc....diet is hugely important, but I believe a person's energetic (as in chi or prana) is probably even more so...Maybe the complexity of trying to measure energetic factors is why some things will remain mystery...mystery is good chi. I appreciate that you guys seem to agree on the general health recommendation regarding seed oils; it is a really important topic in this uplifting interview.
Thank you for having Dr. Shanahan on your program. Happy New Year and best of all for you and your viewers.
Mehran. 01/01/2025
UGH. Chipotle uses rice bran oil. There goes my "healthier" fast food choice when I'm traveling.
Refined? Probably, right?
Explanations are fine, but I was hoping to learn more about the scientific research/actual data that proves the case against seed oil instead of explanation after explanation. -- Like the names and dates of studies- and who conducted them?? - For example, what is the evidence against soy oil? What is the evidence that shows that refined sesame oil is healthy? Where is the scientific evidence that shows there are toxins in seed oils? How are these toxins detected and measured?
If you google " end products of lipid peroxidation" you can find toxic compounds that are found when fats go rancid ( when they are oxidized). 4HNE is kind of a famous one. You can also find data on animal testing with these toxic compounds. There isnt much debate on wether these fats are toxic when they are oxidized.
Long lasting human trials on basically any food are nonexistent, unless you take human history as a given.
These toxic compounds can technically be found in any fat you may use. However, for example with butter, even if you leave out butter on the countertop at room temp for 2-3 weeks it is barely oxidized and you can still cook with it and use it. You will most definitely know when butter has gone rancid.
In the case of these oils however, you know they oxidize very fast when you heat them ( like frying) and you cant really tell when they have gone rancid. Because of the process of making them, they remove the scent and color and give it new scent and color. You can not really tell if a bottle of canola oil is made today or is 6 years old. Even when used as a frying fat it is hard to tell when its gone bad. You can actually find some data on this, if you google on the right keywords. You can also test peroxidation at home if you are willing to spend money on machinery.
There is also the fact that seed oils lower cholesterol when you consume them. Dietary cholesterol does not raise cholesterol ( you can actually find clinical trials for this), however consuming dietary seed oils does lower cholesterol. They even advertise with it here in Europe on the packaging.
Wether lowering cholesterol is healthy or not is a whole new ballpark and a youtube comment goes to fat too comment on that.
Anyway, i am just trying to give you a lead here. Not arguing one way or another. I feel quite a lot better myself after swapping out margarine and seed oil cooking oil for butter.
Studies and the data in them can be manipulated so easily that they are not worth basing your opinions on. Science is science. It is not statistical connivance. Plus there is plenty of evidence that seed oils can contain mycotoxins and repeated heating causes peroxidisation.
"The prevalence of mycotoxins in oils varies depending on the type of oil, the geographical area, and the storage conditions of the oilseeds.
Some of the main mycotoxins found in oils include aflatoxins, zearalenone, ochratoxin A, trichothecenes, fumonisins, and Alternaria toxins.
Mycotoxins are toxic compounds that can be carcinogenic, teratogenic, and mutagenic. They can pose a serious threat to human health, food safety, and environmental safety."
Maybe it’s in the book? Just a thought, I have not read it yet.
I remember 90s in our village was sold cold pressed sunflower oil, was dark brownish green smelling good, we knew if we not use it quickly, gets terrible smelling so we werent using it.
My Wife Is Meticulous About This…. Dr. . Boz Towanda & Family Happy New Year!
Avocado oil is heated not pressed! Anyone can take avocado and make oil in the kitchen same with Coconut oil. No chemicals or special equipment needed.
That was intense.
OK here's my post video comment:
Dear Dr. Boz,
In your summation you got hung up on the lack of distinguishable factors in Omega molecules from seed oils and other sources while leaving out the most important part of Cate's hypothesis. These Refined food-like products, are contaminated by oxidation, stabilizers, etc. during the production process. (Cate left out storage in this short conversation, but did touch on the additives that they use to "stabilize" these very unstable crude oils.) These un-natural ride alongs are driving the mal-adaptations, not the isolated Omega molecules.
The point is that these refined food-like products are adulterated non-foods that drive oxidative stress in our bodies. Yes there are pure Omega molecules in these oils which can't be distinguished from other Omega sources at a sub-nanometer scale, but there's a lot more in the bottle than the Omegas.
My take away is, regardless of Omega 3 ratios, and other complicated metabolic processes, I avoid all processed, ultra processed, and refined FrankenFoods from the Hateful Eight to the Diabetic Ten... and beyond!
This is my understanding of her premise.
Peace, Love, Health, and Freedom, to all who are fortunate enough to strive for these goals. 🙏
ct
UA-cam ,please don't remove this comment. 🙏
PS. I am very grateful that you invited Dr. Cate onto your Channel as the two of you are major forces in overcoming the chronic illnesses of Royalty that Big Ag, Big, Food, and Big Pharma are practically forcing down our throats in order to maximize profits at the expense of our physical and financial Health.
The both of you are doing the work so many shirk and I commend you for it.
🙏🙏🙏
Would you please list the Diabetic Ten? I haven't heard of that before. Thanks.
Great comment. I kinda wish she would have expressed this to Cate in the interview instead of to us separately. It seems like she responding to an already framed up idea that wasn’t the same as Cate was presenting. You did a great job explaining it.
Dr. Boz. I thought your insertions of rebuttal / explanations into the interview video was kind of snarky. I've never seen a podcast host do that before. Did your guest realize you were going to do that?
Seed oil is my concern, i don't cook with it but soon i will visit for 2 months my relatives, so hard to say i don't eat your meal there is seed oils, yes traditionally was lamb fat.
Cate is pure sunshine. she reminds me of Velma from scooby doo. ❤
As humans, we need to understand that we cannot beat Mother Nature.. science got us in this mess to begin with. I respect that there are many trying to get us out of it, but we just need eat things that are not processed first. As our foods are altered l, the health dangers increase with those alterations.
Start with a completely natural diet ( not man made plants) and learn to add one thing at a time and listen to your body’s reaction. Feeling great is easy if you listen to your body and learning to be your own doctor.
Keep it simple. Eat to live, don’t live to eat.
How would someone fit a peanut allergy into this?
How about "The Hidden Benefits of Organic Cold-Pressed Seed Oils"? You need to have Brian Peskin of to do that.
I get the camaraderie, but where is the meat. Where is the science you stated would be in this conversation? Dr. Boz I may have misunderstood your sudden flip on Onega 6. Both Omega 3’s & Omega 6’s are essential and should come from an animal source. The animals we consume use to have a 1:1 ratio of omega 3:6. But today because are livestock eat crap is significantly higher in Omega 6’s pushing inflammation. Additionally plant phytosterols or Omega 3& 6 are not the same fats we find in animals. One can eat and survive for a time on vegetables but your not getting the essential fats nor protein one needs.
Hi Dr. Boz. Been looking into this as well, and I just watched 2 presentations on seed oils from 2 doctors on here. The channels are Nutrition Made Simple and Dr. Brad Stanfield. Both guys are extremely evidenced based, and open minded. I would post links, but my comments are generally deleted when I do. Anyway, these guys went through study after study, showing how reducing saturated fat and adding canola, or just adding the oil, improved heart health and other things. Hard to argue with that science, and shift to Cate's theory on how bad they are. Still, frustrating. I want definitive proof. I've almost never felt good. My muscles are always tight and burny. Been a meat eater. Been a vegan. Looking to discover (at 63) how not to die young.
I have very burny slightly achy muscles too (mostly shoulders upper back and neck, but mildly everywhere) , recently saw a rheumatologist and have some sort of vascilitis disease. Prednisone and an immune suppressant is helping alot. Just an idea on something you might check into. I'm also trying everything under the sun to reduce inflammation but honestly nothing has helped except the drugs:(
How about black seed oil? I just started taking it for the health benefits but stopped immediately when I realized that it’s a seed oil right???
Before considering the implications of the Om6-Om3 ratio, or alleging that fructose is metabolically less important than seed oils, take a look at how seed oils are made. Using petroleum-industry chemicals, strippers and solvents, high heat treatments (molecular changes), preservatives and dyes. When you eat most seed and nut oils, you are eating industrial chemicals. Anything after that is really not relevant to health until you actually can look at clean, industrial chemical-free and high heat process-free oils. And not all seed and nut oils are the same nor are they made the same way. Opps, there goes both the baby and the bath water.
Did you ever hear about poppy seed oil? Not yet explored fully, but very potent.
As long as it's cold-pressed and organic.
Krill oil, astaxanthin, pycnogenol, DIM, ect...
What about cold pressed seed oils?
Thank you for always giving an honest perspective - from all sides - it's so refreshing since so many influencers & experts are skewed to one extreme or another. May I ask, since I am on a very clean, low carb diet, devoid of any packaged food, not in need of losing weight, do I still need to get a certain amount of Omega 6? I ask because Cronometer usually tells me I'm only at 85% (based on their thoughts on what I need)... should I add more walnuts to bring it up to 100% (they think I need 11 grams for my age, weight & height). Thanks so much!
Is that 85% based on a standard American diet?
@dennisward43 is what based on a standard diet? Cronometer doesn't base nutrients on any diet, it's based un US RDA, I believe.
@@skincraftorganicsllc8537 I see, Thanks for reply.
my problem is she talks is bold statements, but then says you cannot measure it. I am very skepical of seed oils but that is not science.
There is also the other side - have seed oils been scientifically proven to be safe? If not, why consume them, why take the risk?
Dr. box, I have been practicing a keto diet for a month now. My carbs are at 20%. I admit I don't always hit my fats or proteins. I weigh 148 pounds and I'm not actually trying to lose weight I'm just trying to lower my insulin resistance ( triglycerides at 130). So far I'm only blowing about .3 ml on the breath meter can you tell me what I'm doing wrong I don't really need to lose any weight at all. In fact, I need to gain some back actually.
So, what type of oils should we be cooking in? Olive oil, coconut oil, avocado oil, what oil?
avacado oil …olive oil should be used for dressings
I use refined organic coconut oil (no smell or taste), you really can't tell the difference. Fatty meats I cook on stainless steel pan with no oil at all.
Our body is burning, heating , oxidized
We lost the cooling system of our mitochondria!
Who can imagine insulin allowing emaga-3 into the cell to be used as fuel?
Does this include black seed oil?
No
Are you kidding? The likely reason the cooking shows don’t tell you which oils they are using is because they could receive severe criticism from people who think certain oils are good or not good. Just think of that the McDonald’s restaurants years ago used to use beef tallow to fry their French fries. They were hounded into changing to the “healthier” vegetable seed oils. other examples could be referenced. So is it really that hotel and some fancy restaurants don’t care and use cheap oils. Cutting costs can only be part of the picture. They may want to avoid the conflict and controversy. Some food managers may be uneducated on some of this. I think it is difficult to know what to believe about some things , and there is a lot of misinformation floating around also.
Come on, tell us the story about being in the seed oil factory. Sounded like she called you on BS
great discussion, but why doesn't this problem show up in human tests?
Maybe they have but because they are mostly paid for by big food companies, they may have not been published. Or maybe the data from the tests were manipulated, not done properly or for long enough. Seed oils can even be beneficial in small doses for a short period (3 months, say) but dangerous over longer ones.
So, the Topic you want to avoid becomes front and center anyway LOL
Prior to 1900, how much seed oil did an average person consume in one day?
And how much today?
Easier availability of something does not mean use of that something should increase, right?
To track Omega-6 sources, we need to get them to use the block chain like bitcoin
LOL
Every bitcoin looks the same (electronic string of data) but every one is unique.
Dr. Boz. Your lovely..
Nice....
Dark calories.. Dieterium Calories???
Dear Dr Boz. I just think it boils down to the fact that Dr Harris hasn't realised the dangers of consuming unnatural man made products like seed oils. Get your omegas 3 and 6 from healthy natural sources as God intended us to do. God Bless you and Dr Kate.
Finally someone who brings up Doctor Harris. Thank you. I asked here in the comments why Doc Boz did not mention Doc Harris and his stance on the seed oils.
@@Pepesplants Make no mistake! She does and has videos with him. All I can gather is that he is right about balancing the omega 3s and 6s, but seems to have overlooked and or not seen the dangers with seed oils or at least the dangers of the processing and consuming them.
I did not know that the language is used on your show is specifically for MD and chemist. I do not have the background on these topics and so it was not helpful. Also The doctor never explained hoe seed oils are made so why are the seeds such as almond sesames' or walnut good for us but the oil is bad? Never got explained after one of lessoning. 01/01/2025
Sorry, I meant after one HOUR of listening.
Never knew how thicc Dr Boz was.
Very interesting but why do so many smart doctors lack the wisdom in knowing we were fearfully and wonderfully made by God and that we did not evolve?
Because we evolved, and a (non-existent) god was not needed for evolution.
When you made the earlier video with the title of being skeptical of the dangers of seed oils, I almost stopped following you. Please be careful with what you label yourself
"The cells are like, 'Oh cool' .. the cells figured this out. Without a brain." - Wow, talk about a credibility killer. No chance I'm going to buy your book now.
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Absolute Tripe. We dont need unsubstantiated opinions and cosy chats. We need a discussion of evidence based on Randomised control trials. With links in the notes please. I really appreciate Dr Boz trying to back away from the seed oil hate and lies But, all this woo woo bs is so incredibly disappointing.
Go over to proper science fact based sites like Nutrition Made Simple and Physionic. Watch Gil directly challenge influencers face to face and fact check them in real time. I just dont think Dr Boz is up to the job.
Don't watch, simple.
The same scientific "evidence" that once "supported" cigarette smoking, which doctors proudly did in the presence of their patients? Seed oils are simply a modern rendition of the same ideological capture. When you sign your life away to seed oils, banking on them lowering your LDL, what you don't see in the fine print is that they increase the amount of atherogenic lipoproteins in circulation, namely those that have become oxidized, OxLDL not the least of which.
@JasonActualization more opinion Jason. Show me the randomised control trials.
@john-w2u3c 1. The Minnesota Coronary Experiment 2. The Sydney Diet Heart Study 3. The Rose Corn Oil Trial
Right, where are the randomized control trials showing safety of industrially produced seed oils? The whole randomized trial standard argument has been over used and overall strict evidence based medicine hasn't made for a healthier population.
It's the actual practice of medicine that leads to healthier patients. This means paying attention to nuance and actual mechanisms in the body .
Just because there is no evidence doesn't mean it's not true and shouldn't be discussed .
Hocus pocus. Bubble bubble boil and trouble. This is truly disappointing, Dr Boz, to give this air play.
Why is this bad? Anyone can make this sort of statement. Why are you making it?
Dr. Boz clarified and countered many of this lady's claims.
@@Mindvirus-ly5ed Thanks God, but why damage the credibility of the Dr Boz brand with this bunk.
@@paulharrington9673 Where do you and I get our Omega 6? The current war on "seed oils" is an evolving phase of the war on Omega 6, a trendy click-bait strategy for UA-cam health influencers, but irresponsible to advocate. Try living without it. Did you hear the guest: "Seed oils are worse than sugar".