Not A Notaklön [Dan's DIY Approach To The Klon Centaur]
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2024
- Josh JHS Made A Modular Klon Centaur-alike… Can Dan Do The Same?
Welcome to the show! And very possibly the last Klon show we do. For a while anyway. Because the very, very, very clever people at JHS Pedals recently launched the Notaklön, a Centaur-type OD pedal in kit form. Genius idea, genius marketing.
The easy thing would have been to buy one and compare it to Mick’s Klon. But. But but but but but… this is That Pedal Show and we like to be a little more, erm, enquiring. Thusly, Dan has attempted to deconstruct a Klon circuit, using other pedals to try to explain what’s going on.
Can we do it? Why would we do it? Welcome to That Pedal Show.
Enjoy the episode!
The JHS Notaklön jhspedals.info/products/notaklon
And please visit That Pedal Shop www.thatpedalshop.com/
Pedals and stuff used in this video…
• TheGigRig Three2One
www.thegigrig.com/three2one
• Lazy Bear Custom Parallel Splitter
www.lazy-bear.co.uk
• MXR 10-Band EQ
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Australia: bit.ly/2Yx95Wz
USA: bit.ly/3EhAiPx
• Ross Distortion
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• Empress Para EQ
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Australia: bit.ly/3uP2MAj
USA: sweetwater.sjv.io/m5JNAD
• Boss GE-7
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Australia: bit.ly/3m5XYPe
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• JHS Summing Amp
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Australia: bit.ly/2DjEe7G
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• TheGigRig Wetter Box
www.thegigrig.com/wetterbox
• Origin Effects DCX Boost
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Australia: bit.ly/46aiCn6
USA: bit.ly/445aMcy
• Lazy Bear Custom Volume Pot
www.lazy-bear.co.uk
• Klon Centaur - head very gently to Reverb or eBay
• TheGigRig QMX4
www.thegigrig.com/quartermaster
• Crazy Tube Circuits White Whale
crazytubecircuits.com/white-w...
0:00 Intro playing
1:45 Why are we making this show?
3:40 Klon circuit brief explanation
4:58 Dansclaimer!
5:45 Today’s amp reasoning
7:44 Sounds Of The Klon Centaur
11:10 Three distinct signal paths
14:35 The Ross Distortion & hard clipping
16:45 Dual-gang gain pot
19:35 Why the DCX Boost?
20:21 Hear the Klon tone control
22:30 Sound 1: Low Gain Clean Boost
29:40 Still not quite getting the clean tone
33:00 Sound 2: Mid Gain Overdrive
36:05 Hear the DCX Boost
37:40 Sound 3: Higher Gain Overdrive
40:15 Reconstructing it backwards
42:22 Closing thoughts
Guitars in today’s show
• 1961 Fender Stratocaster - Mick’s video here: • Three New Strats For M...
• New-ish Gibson USA SG Standard with Maestro Vibrola - no video yet
• Gibson Memphis 1958 ES-335 - Mick’s video here: • Gibson Memphis 1958 ES...
• Gibson Custom True Historic ’57 Les Paul Godtop. Murphy Aged - no video yet
Amps in today’s show
• 1979 Fender Bassman 70
• Mesa Boogie 212 vertical cab with EVM12L speakers
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The Klon circuit and signal path explanations, in this episode, are absolute golden moments in teaching.
Only show I know that tries to make a MORE EXPENSIVE version of the Klon. I love these Franken-pedal educational shows!
and that is why we love these guys! taking geeky to a whole new level
I’m pretty sure all the pieces they used are combined less expensive than a Klon today 😅
@@imacashew. Well maybe a KTR?
Yeah I agree as you actually have more options if you REALLY think about doing what they are doing …👍
😂😂😂
That was awesome. My kit arrived today. Built in 10 mins. Great quality. I can't wait to plug it in!
These deconstructed circuit demos are pure gold
Exactly! I think that even an only “DanConstruction Episode” per month it might be a really awesome educational moment!❤️❤️❤️
Love that we’re seeing more humbuckers on the show. Would love an episode that explores the differences between humbuckers and single coils when it comes to modulation and wet effects. In the past you’ve mentioned that you tend to get more out of certain effects with single coils. Interested in why this is the case and what we can do to get the most out of these effects when using humbuckers.
I absolutely love these frankenstein pedal episodes.
It's alive!
Plus one on the Frankenstein pedal episodes. Love it when Dan goes full mad scientist on TPS!
So happy Mick was able to get that Strat! Thank you, whoever let it go. Lots of enjoyment 😊
This was awesome, and I am extremely grateful for the graphics! Awesome circuit recreation. As always, thank you both. I hope you and your families enjoy the Holiday Season!
Liking the motivation here. Let's model a $1000 pedal using $2000 worth of pedals while we wait for our $99 version of the same pedal.
BTW Dan, that SG is a lovely thing.
It's more like $4000+ even for silver non-horsie klons nowadays
$1000 for an original Klon these days would be way below average. They're usually going for 4 or 5x that nowadays, more in some cases.
Maybe talking about KTR?
@@ordinalkirk I would assume we're talking about the klon in the video. It seems totally random for him to suddenly bring up the ktr
@@johnvonkerman I am talking about the above comment. "Let's model a $1000 pedal using $2000 worth of pedals while we wait for our $99 version of the same pedal." I know what a Klon is and what it is worth.
Fascinating. Thanks guys. Notaklön was definitely marketing genius, but even more than that product development genius. Lot's of people want to build pedals but most are turned off by soldering. Such a simple solution to that problem.
I would add that it totally fits the Zeitgeist. The pandemic made many people spend more time on their hobbies, making DIY bloom. Now taking this to the next level by adding the IKEA simplicity and making it accessible for almost anyone and doing some great marketing really took it to the next level.
I can't believe this is how I'm spending my morning..but I can't seem to stop.
You should market this as the Nota-Nota. Thanks for explaining this circuit with a hands-on approach. Legends.
So it is 100% official: I listened to this whole video throughout the crappy speakers on my iPhone...and not just ANY crappy iPhone speakers, but the crappy speakers on an iPhone SE and the sound quality is loads better than previous. I could literally hear event he more subtle differences.
If that wasn't;t the Neves your have done something else right. I cant't get that good of an experience with most YT channels on just phone speakers.
Great video too. Learned a ton.
there is just so much usable stuff in an episode like this. and TPS has a knack for making it all understandable for every level.
It's getting more and more rare to hear Python references in the world.
Now we're gonna need to see a mega-board with the mega-Klon, mega-delay, and mega-reverb!
These are some of my favorite shows-it’s very cool to get a conceptual understanding of what is going on inside these various circuits. Thanks!
Love it! Lots of fun and this video really helped me understand the genius of the Klon circuit. Also, love that you used a JHS summer. I love their utility pedals. They really expand my pedalboard creativity.
As a tinkerer, this has really helped me conceptualize these circuits!
These moving arrow graphics are next level. Legends.
I didn’t expect it to be so close! Mind blowing stuff!!
Dan is right. Much easier to work to match the clean. Then remove the clean and match the drive. Then work the blend. Great deconstructed circuit demo! Love these.
I can see it now on a theatre marquee: “D&M and The Buckers of Hum” What a great new band name and a great - as always - show! It makes me appreciate my KTR all-the-more! 🤘😊👍❤️
This amp crackle is like hearing your two voices on an old grammophone record. Amazing!
I love these demonstrations of the building blocks of effects ! Fun, clear and unique. Thank you guys !!
More Dan+SG please. The guitar brings something different out of him. Such good feel and vibe, and really more soulful sounding than the other guitars.
Just realised I can't skim watch this before taking my daughter to her dance concert rehearsal. No. This requires a good beverage and peace and quiet to enjoy properly. Your commitment to excellence, Dan and Mick, warrant it.
Amazing show! Well done for breaking it out so well. And you nailed it! Can’t wait for my notaklon to arrive in 2024
Cool deconstruction. Couldn't agree more about the JHS launch. It was brilliant. As Dads, how many DIY craft projects have we done with our kids? JHS filmed and edited one. There was no faking that dialogue, the emotions. That's why it worked. It was real.
Great idea for a show guys. Really enjoy the circuit analysis stuff. And the format (using other pedals to represent circuit components) is really genius.
4:26 - wow, now I can really appreciate the "genius" Dan was talking about. This diagram clearly shows some unique revolutionary design.
What a fantastic explanation of exactly how a Klon does what it does. Very clever engineering.
You guys are an invaluable resource for understanding the makings of tone, that's one of your niches in the world of gear shows, so in other words: keep doing what you love doing, it's the personality, style, humour, technical knowledge and the ability to impart that to others that combines to make your show so great. 👍👍
I won the Notaklon Nick built in the launch video and Belle gooped a butter knife to the surface. It is very very very good.
Fascinating and Eye Opening ! Thank you Dan & Mick ! Superb content as always. I watch everything you post. With Gratitude - John
Fascinating show. It gave us a wonderful explanation on the circuit blocks in the Klon. Great show for nerds like me who love this stuff. Thanks!
Huge thanks gentlemen! This is the only source of information that really explained what is happening inside a Klon and why that design works. A +
Love the rational and stunning conclusion lads - and yes, we all know which one you'd go for :) In other words no point queuing up a certain Supertramp track for you two :) Overlays were a work of art
This was awesome! Thank you for Dansplaining this to us!
D&M- I would love to see your 5e3 kit amps back in the show and challenge you to build a humble wet dry rig using that amp circuit. Very interested in your approach. Lots of at home hobby builders may agree that this would be a fun video. It would be quite the challenge to pair another amp and a pedal board with that 5e3 sound. Thanks for the content!
Excellent! I took today off so I could watch this at release time, and to do holiday shopping. But mostly to watch TPS with my coffee!
Love this episode! A perfect explanation what goes into an overdrive pedal used as a clean boost among other things.
What I bring away from this is never mind your special magic unicorn diodes, what seems to make the Klon special is it’s very clever design, as you’ve cleverly shown, visually as well as audibly, with the today’s pedal set up. The careful tweaking of parameters that was needed to get the right sound, made relatively easily by having the knobs and sliders to hand in this example, must have been so much more trickier with the arrangement and rearrangement of components in the R & D of the original pedal. Another great show!
Fantastic video. Love the MXR 10 Band EQ! Quiet, big head room, impressive quality sounds and lovely bright lights...
This told me more about why I might want a Klon-ish pedal than anything else I’ve ever seen or read. Well done, guys! I’d love to see more of this kind of video.
That "yeah!" In the beginning scared the bejesus out of me lol
That opening Strat section. Unleash the mighty Mick. Bloody awesome.
Thank you!
Yay it’s Klon season ! What i understand so far is that i actually need 3 Klon(e)s, 1st for Clean boost, the second for Mid boost and the 3rd for the all out Rock boost. 😂. Next i need another episode on correct order placement of the aforementioned 3 klon pedals. Loved this experiment, well done both.
A Dansclaimer! 😂Love it when Dan gives me a lesson on how things work!
I don't comment as much as I used to - don't want you to feel obligated to reply (here either) - but this was absolutely brilliant. Perfect combination of educational and fun. Honestly, this has been the first time out of the dozens of Klon videos I have seen that what it does makes sense... bonus material watching it happen practically. More please! Still got flange, phaser, univibe, Timmy (transparents), Leslie pedals, and on and on... thanks for this gents. No need to reply.
I love these “Dan Deconstructs” videos! Don’t know if there are more circuits that would lend themselves to this concept, but keep them coming if there are 👍🏻
Best Klon show ever. Thanks for explaining what happens inside a Klon. You make me like my Wampler Tumnus Deluxe even more. We'll see how I like the Notaklon when it arrives in a few months.
Another great demonstration Dan and Mick !!! It's such a fun for nerdy people like me (and many others) to have these keys : as carving our sound is a neverending path, understanding how it works is so helpfull for not getting lost in the way !!!
And it will sure help me to better understand how to approach the settings of my Tumnus in various situations !!
Cheers guys from Paris !! ;)
What a fantastic episode lads!!
This episode is genius. To breakdown all the elements of a pedal requires some knowledge. Well done again!
I think this one demonstrates something really important about the Klon: for all the secret diodes and forum threads and resale price-gougers, the most important thing by FAR about the Klon is the way it's VOICED. Getting a pedal to stay open on top, while also compressing and thickening out the pick attack, while also pushing the mids, while also keeping the lower mids clear enough not to flub out ... that's Demiurge-tier stuff
Very cool episode! Learnt a lot and gained extra appreciation for the Klon design. I was aware of the clean/gain blend but not the low pass!
Absolutely brilliant! Great fun! Happy holiday seasons everyone!!
I laugh out loud every time I see that "multi-head delay" board. 😂
Watched this with interest as a stop gap while I waited for my Notaklon, and blow me if it wasn't delivered today a few days early just as I finished. Dan and Mick are Notaklon whisperers in every sense!
It's amazing how Forensic we guitarists get, to "Dissect" every Nuance of Tone. I love it. Brilliant stuff gents & Happy Holidays. oNe LovE from NYC
You gents have really helped train my ears on guitar tones!
Got my Notaklon! I was in Batch 1, just got it early this week, it is assembled and sounds great!
Dang! I dont feel so bad anymore that i have not gotten mine yet, if you guys have not gotten yours. :D Thanks for the great content! Also, i gotta say you guys' playing is soooo melodic and inspiring to say the least! Always makes me feel like just picking up my own stuff and practicing more! Cheers!
I know you said you feel that you’ve covered all there is to say on the Klon but I found this video genuinely fascinating! Despite decades of immersion in all things guitars and gear, I realise now I still didn’t really understand what a Klon is and how it does what it does. I really love these TPS pedal breakdown videos and how clearly I’m able to visualise what a pedal is actually doing to the sound after I watch them.
Thanks Gareth! Glad it was useful dood!
*You can use a heat gun and shop cloth to clean the wax off the tag strip in the bassman. That'll stop most of the background noise. Or "Fender thunder" as its fondly known!* 😉
*The wax becomes conductive over decades of dust/ smoke/ damp ingress.*
*You don't need to clean the whole thing. Just where there's large voltage diffences between close solder rivets.*
The year is 2030, Dan makes a fully functioning Mick robot out of readily available pedals and clever gigrig routing solutions.
It is still analog so it and Meat-Mick get along great
Effin brilliant! Now I feel like I totally understand what happens when I turn the knobs on my klon style pedal. And also more about what happens on the non-klon style pedals.
Appreciate the lengths you go to, to describe what’s going on in the pedal. So we have 10 pedals to get a clean boost 1s stage drive. Love it! And good ear dialing that set up in.
Excellent explanation of how the Klon works!
Man the 335 is a tone machine. Micks playing on that is just smooth you can tell its a guitar that feels good
So is that SG!
Amazing demonstration! I really learned a lot today. And entertaining as can be. More experimenting ahead with splitting, tweaking and mixing a mono signal!...
So informativ, thank you so much TPS!!
Wow! That was excellent!
I really learned something.
What a great Kloncept!
Always fun and always educational. Thanks.
As always a great show mates Happy FriYay TPS!!
JHS is where you go to hear one pedal sounding like another TPS is where you go to to hear 8 little boxes sound like 1, fun concept Dan 😉
Nicely finalized at the 39 minute forward there Mick. Yer spot on Bud!
Great to see / hear you playing Mick🎉
Thanks Hurshel!
Please do more of those. I enjoy a lot the first 2 ones, this one was great too. Pretty please 🙃
Fantastic show!!!
Killer demo....and thanks for the heads up on the Notaklon kit...Just pre-ordered...Wadda deal!
Great episode with awesome dansplaining!
I love when Dan starts doing air-physics, drawing invisible waveforms.
Great video as always
I love these "Pedal for every element of a pedal" type videos. Very informative of how things work. It'd be crazy to see this done with a Univibe
What a fun and interesting idea, super cool
Really great breakdown. Thanks
This is the ONLY way to make a Klon being more expensive than the original!😂😂😂 but I really like this educational way to approach to the effects and the relative sound that came out of it! Very, very interesting! Well done, guys, you always rulez!❤
Thank you guys so much for this demonstration! I was going to buy a vintage Klon, but it looks as if I can get that sound for much cheaper with a dozen pedals and accessories....
Mick’s little funkathon at the top was so entertaining it put me right into a nice mood.
Brilliant episode, Dan’s on 🔥
I am finishing up a $$$ stereo for a show. Have a Cosecant N2 USB dac hooked to my MacBook Pro and that into a hellish tube amp and speakers. The sound is incredible!!! So much so that Barley (brown & tan Cocker Spaniel) is howling :)
The two MIT engineers don't get enough merits for their work on the Klon!
Great show thanks mates!
I want a hard clipping distorsion with three volumes; one for clean bass, one for full clean and one for distorsion. Then the normal tone control AND a parametric eq only for the distorsion signal. A distorsion control and a master volyme. That's nine knobs😂😂😂. And of course an on/off switch.
And peace on earth.
Dan really knows his stuff with pedals, never ceases to amaze me! This was interesting and through this I know a lot more about how a Klon works and why it is such a great pedal! Mick, what number is your Klon? I think Tomo Fujita's, that he bought in the 90's is #12,,,crazy! anyway thanks guys! Have a great weekend!
I didn’t get the Centaur circuit for a long time. Though it was dull. But in the past year I’ve taken a Tumnus and cranked the gain anywhere between 3:00 and full up (got that from Josh Scott). And I love it. It’s got more than enough gain and it cuts through so very well when I play in a band situation which typically consists of drums, bass, acoustic guitar, keys and multiple vocalists these days.
Brilliant episode. Love it when Dan explains things... also always thought EQ pedals were kinda overlooked when trying to emulate tones, seems like a programmable EQ would give a player an excellent range of tonal options instead of a row of boosts and overdrives. That said, bought two Notaklön kits and eagerly awaiting delivery. Rarely make such spontaneous purchases, especially given the shipping costs but really couldn’t miss out this time...
I’ve recently discovered that my “second overdrive” pedal should have just been an eq with a slight level boost pushing my favourite overdrive pedal. Could have saved me time and $$ if I’d put the cork sniffery aside and just bought a ge7 🤷😂
@@bennyv9897😂😂 - Heck of a journey, mind ...
The guy from JHS made a brilliant product and did brilliant marketing. He deserves every penny he makes from his pedal. I've never had much desire for a Klon but I really liked how his pedal sounded on some demos I watched. Not sure if they're sold out still but I'll be looking into getting one.
YES!!!! Another "mega-pedal" build from Dan!!!!
Very interesting guys, I love these videos - though I imagine there is quite a bit of work which goes into them!
I think it would be great to see a Boss BD-2 deconstructed like this as I believe it is an interesting circuit too.
The arrow animations on the signal path are a great touch!