Is The Klon Really Worth $5,000?

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    Today we're taking a look at one of the most legendary and sought after guitar pedals, the Klon Centaur. Does it live up to it's $5000 price tag, or do the clones get close enough to the real thing?
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  • @MusicisWin
    @MusicisWin Рік тому +249

    Did someone say Klon?
    BTW, the answer to the video title is 'ABSOLUTELY NOT'
    It's really worth about $7,500-8,000 :D

    • @tfriesen3866
      @tfriesen3866 Рік тому +4

      So true. I’d save money and build the StewMac one.

    • @simonjenkin
      @simonjenkin Рік тому +1

      @@tfriesen3866 "whooosh"

    • @NytronX
      @NytronX Рік тому +6

      But but tonewoods bro.

    • @ericwarrington6650
      @ericwarrington6650 Рік тому +2

      Warm Audio Centavo...$179...exact hand built recreation using highest quality materials available 🤘😜🎶🎸

    • @melodica5407
      @melodica5407 Рік тому +9

      You're trying to bump up the price of the one you're selling? 😂

  • @JTstratman13
    @JTstratman13 Рік тому +528

    I would much rather have five $1,000 guitars than one pedal.

    • @alexander_winston
      @alexander_winston Рік тому +27

      Seriously. You could purchase a Fender American Professional guitar and a Marshall Plexi for around the same $.

    • @nuthinbutlove
      @nuthinbutlove Рік тому +4

      YEEESSSSSSS!!! ♥️🙌🙌🙌🙌

    • @pauel6747
      @pauel6747 Рік тому +25

      No you wouldn’t. Maybe 2 $2,500 guitar that would be understandable..

    • @kwyatt261
      @kwyatt261 Рік тому +7

      I'd go buy a dream amp and call it a day. A Two Rock, perhaps? Hard to say because I've never played one lol

    • @abvk4875
      @abvk4875 Рік тому +15

      I'd rather spend 2k on pedals and save the other 3k for things that'll keep me alive. i.e. more pedals

  • @leesanders1619
    @leesanders1619 Рік тому +314

    For that money I’ll go buy a dream guitar and a $200 clone pedal to go with it.

    • @void_snw
      @void_snw Рік тому +13

      I'd go for quality budget axe, nice amp, and a hella good attenuator - with money to spare in the end.

    • @what1864
      @what1864 Рік тому +3

      why not a $200 pedal and $200 guitar ?

    • @mysterymeat1216
      @mysterymeat1216 Рік тому +10

      @@what1864 because $200 guitars are cheap shit?

    • @what1864
      @what1864 Рік тому +4

      @@mysterymeat1216 they are cheap , there is a guy by the name of jack pearson who play's a squir strat bullet live regularly , he played with the allman brothers and the greg allman band , he's also played with joe bonamaasa , why would he play a shitt guitar ? i think rhett even did a video on em ..

    • @mysterymeat1216
      @mysterymeat1216 Рік тому

      @@what1864 he probably played then because they sounded cheap. Same reason Kurt Cobain used cheap Fenders and Fender knock-offs. If he wanted to get a better tone, he'd use more expensive guitars

  • @jamesdoherty9379
    @jamesdoherty9379 Рік тому +64

    I owned #26 for 20 years and used it in front of a ‘71 Super Lead. Bill actually brought it to my apt in Brookline to demo and I bought it. He sold them himself at the time.
    I sold it about 5 years ago for $1500 before they went crazy crazy. It was a great pedal and untouched by much else for a long time but there are a number of great boost/OD pedals now that sound just as good or better. It’s ridiculous that they sell for so much now.

    • @castleanthrax1833
      @castleanthrax1833 Рік тому +1

      Oh well. You're in a big club.

    • @NebulaStudios1
      @NebulaStudios1 Рік тому +2

      I lived on a Fuller Street Coolidge Corner. I faxed, talked with him, but in the end the $295 or so was too much for me back then. Suke Cerilo from Schliegh ho had one. They played Boston all the time.

    • @artprince9163
      @artprince9163 Рік тому +1

      Some guitar aficionados are nuts. Much better ways to spend the money. Donate it to charity to give food to homeless for instance.

    • @sonicd57
      @sonicd57 Рік тому +2

      @@johnsmith-ug5tp Social Media and hyped up you tube videos have also done a hell of a job screwing up the market for things like this. It’s exposed everything, there are no more secrets or special things… there’s always just the newest hyped up “thing”. This phenomenon wouldn’t be possible without social media. It’s actually ruined the fun in a couple of my passions/interests/hobbies. I just can’t afford to outbid the guys with money that will pay anything to buy their little trophy items. You spend 20 years developing knowledge and collecting, then idiots come along and take it away and act like they discovered it!!

    • @deathafi
      @deathafi Рік тому +1

      Any overdrives you would recommend?

  • @DanielBobke
    @DanielBobke Рік тому +52

    I built the StewMac clone kit (Ghost Drive) and it is an almost exact replica of the pedal and sound. It was $100 and about 10 hours of my time, but it is fantastic.

    • @offbeatbassgear
      @offbeatbassgear Рік тому +3

      I have the same kit but haven't started it yet. Ten hours total is doable for this project, based on your experience?

    • @DanielBobke
      @DanielBobke Рік тому +7

      @@offbeatbassgear Yes... if you have decent soldering skills and the right tools. I highly suggest magnifier glasses as the board and components are very small. There is some prep work - like verifying all the component values with a multimeter - that I highly recommend that will add time. You also must have a holder device for the board for the soldering.

    • @offbeatbassgear
      @offbeatbassgear Рік тому +3

      @@DanielBobke Great, I have a holder and I just purchased a light up magnifying lens to mount on the workbench. I also thought I'd measure the readings on the components, tape them to a paper and remove them as needed. As for the soldering skills, I have a high pain threshold and some finger skin I have no use for...

    • @Delzona
      @Delzona Рік тому +2

      @@DanielBobke I have the same kit, but haven’t started it yet. In verifying the components did you have to replace any because their value was too far out of spec?

    • @Ottophil
      @Ottophil Рік тому +3

      @@Delzonaif you do, its not hard to find parts

  • @JasonTMays
    @JasonTMays Рік тому +60

    Came for the Klon, stayed for the Pink Floyd "The Final Cut" shirt! I need one of those!

    • @TranscendentBen
      @TranscendentBen Рік тому +2

      I was just thinking while seeing that shirt, I've been around a while ... The Final Cut is the ONLY album I've ever bought the day it came out.

    • @kwyatt261
      @kwyatt261 Рік тому +5

      @@TranscendentBen Fuck all that we've gotta get on with these

    • @davidpekarsky2977
      @davidpekarsky2977 Рік тому

      Fuck all that. (Perfect guitar rake) Fuck all that.

    • @kwyatt261
      @kwyatt261 Рік тому +1

      Gotta compete with the wiley Japanese!

    • @Coopersboy7
      @Coopersboy7 Рік тому

      @@kwyatt261 gotta compete with the wily Japanese

  • @glennw3909
    @glennw3909 Рік тому +12

    All these guest appearances equal to so much knowledge in history & tone! Thanks, Rhett!

  • @michaelshearer3559
    @michaelshearer3559 Рік тому +69

    Josh kills me with his collection. Unbelievably awesome that he has all those. Beyond beyond!

    • @MiketheBassMan
      @MiketheBassMan Рік тому +16

      He never misses a chance to say he has the first one ever sold. lmao

    • @dannyjdonovan
      @dannyjdonovan Рік тому +9

      And sometimes he has the box!

    • @teleguy8722
      @teleguy8722 Рік тому +3

      Quite the humble brag. Lol

    • @castleanthrax1833
      @castleanthrax1833 Рік тому +2

      He's a revolutionary kind of guy. I'm not really a fan of his UA-cam channel, but he definitely knows his pedals.

    • @analtarofnothing69
      @analtarofnothing69 Рік тому +11

      @@castleanthrax1833 He knows how to make money off other people's circuits, that's for sure.

  • @jdpower6360
    @jdpower6360 Рік тому +22

    I love the Wampler Tumnus deluxe. For me it’s as good as a pedal needs to get.

    • @sim0n17
      @sim0n17 Рік тому

      Tumnus mini,... done and done

  • @rcannonp
    @rcannonp Рік тому +17

    There's no way that I could justify buying a real one, but I've been thinking of buying the StewMac kit version for a weekend project.

  • @willjones4992
    @willjones4992 Рік тому +29

    Rhett! You are killing it in the production department. These videos look incredible and are so professionally done.

  • @jvborehed
    @jvborehed Рік тому

    super entertaining and informative video - and that final track is awesome!

  • @Lantertronics
    @Lantertronics Рік тому +16

    I thought Rhett's comment about a Boss DS-1 getting into Klon territory was very interesting, since the Klon uses back-to-back shunt diodes to ground the way the DS-1 does. What makes the Klon interesting is the way it mixes its different audio paths.

    • @DavidHBurkart
      @DavidHBurkart Рік тому +1

      ...he did clarify the other pedals mentioned can only get close to limited settings of the Klon

    • @michaelgarcia2050
      @michaelgarcia2050 Рік тому +1

      Yeah, I didn't know about the 3 signal paths until just now.

    • @Lantertronics
      @Lantertronics Рік тому +1

      @@DavidHBurkart Oh, yeah, wasn't doubting that. I may not have been clear.

  • @georgeflowers3730
    @georgeflowers3730 Рік тому +27

    Years ago I bought the Soul Food and instantly loved it! After so many years of using it, it finally failed, after doing some research I tested the Tumnus, MXR Sugar and Way Huge Conspiracy Theory, I ended up choosing the CT, I love it and it only cost $125.

    • @hibernative
      @hibernative Рік тому +5

      The Sugar Drive is a really great sounding mini pedal, though! Can't go wrong with that or the Tumnus Mini if space is a issue.

    • @brethagen5491
      @brethagen5491 Рік тому

      @@hibernative Agree completely, I have a Sugar Drive and love it. Sounds great, very affordable, and barely takes up any space on the board!

    • @mozartsp
      @mozartsp Рік тому +2

      The CT is a really great one!

    • @kevincoleman9855
      @kevincoleman9855 Рік тому +1

      Do you like the CT better than the soul food? I had one too that sort of failed. Stopped working plugged in. Battery only.

    • @georgeflowers3730
      @georgeflowers3730 Рік тому +1

      @@kevincoleman9855 I love it! You can't go wrong with the CT.

  • @ncd1967
    @ncd1967 Рік тому +6

    I love my Jrad Archer IKON, and I really enjoy the way the dual gain pot works. I think the Klon style circuit is an interesting and unique overdrive, whether or not one "needs" a real one, I'll leave that up to the people who feel like they need the "real" one.

  • @mikemeyer2289
    @mikemeyer2289 Рік тому +1

    I've watched most of your videos, but this was probably the most informative from a practicality standpoint

  • @DanielPearsonRoseCityWriter

    Been waiting for you to dive into this!!!

  • @davidmorgan6000
    @davidmorgan6000 Рік тому +5

    I've the RYRA Clone and it sounds as good as any I've heard. $200 and you've got four color options to choose from as well. The Wampler Tumnus Deluxe is also great if you want more bass and gain tweaking ability. Hope this helps someone make a decision! Enjoy!

  • @tokuprime4450
    @tokuprime4450 Рік тому +26

    Part of me misses "and remember there is no plan B" but another part of me is glad that Rhett has finally thought of a backup scheme. ^_^

    • @castleanthrax1833
      @castleanthrax1833 Рік тому +10

      I never liked that line. There always has to be a "plan B".

    • @fleshrevolt
      @fleshrevolt Рік тому

      It's like the line "If you ain't first, you're last" from Talladega Nights 😂

    • @marcelpaquet8134
      @marcelpaquet8134 Рік тому

      ​@@fleshrevolt or do or do not there is no try

  • @Makanisurfin
    @Makanisurfin Рік тому

    Amazing video and playing dude love it!

  • @Woozy.0
    @Woozy.0 Рік тому

    Great video. Love Rhett's critical eye, much more helpful than other youtubers sucking up to brands. Also love the kernom ridge, and it can connect to an expression pedal for easy tweaking

  • @jcavender00
    @jcavender00 Рік тому +8

    I can't see myself ever spending that kind of money for a pedal. But the Klon sound is a marvelous thing.
    I've been using the Wampler Tumnus for years and it is awesome!

  • @BobbyDoesMusic
    @BobbyDoesMusic Рік тому +5

    Another great video! Whenever I go to buy one of those classic "staple" pedals (Klon, TS, Rat, ODR-1, etc), I usually go hunting for someone who's done a version of that circuit with more features and options. As such, I've got a ton of Wamplers and a couple JHSs on my board. The Tumnus Deluxe is probably my favorite pedal, at a fraction of the price of a Klon.

  • @boufd2008
    @boufd2008 Рік тому

    Great vid . Thx .
    Your outro guitar work was excellent !!

  • @Maplefuzz3542
    @Maplefuzz3542 Рік тому +2

    Mad Professor Royal blue is my favorite transparent overdrive. People from Finland will know it.

  • @ericwarrington6650
    @ericwarrington6650 Рік тому +30

    Just got the warm audio centavo and it's unbelievable right down to the build quality and enclosure...part for part recreation and hand built...under $200

    • @EddyEE1968
      @EddyEE1968 Рік тому +1

      Yes as close as it can get with this pedal, sounds amazingly good. They hit the ballpark with this clone. It is almost sold out in every store in the Netherlands! Have to wait several weeks for having one.

    • @adambartlow5489
      @adambartlow5489 Рік тому +1

      That is good news! This is the klone I have my eye on!

    • @IamtheFerryMan
      @IamtheFerryMan Рік тому +2

      My friend built me one. It's stellar. He used the original circuit schematic. I LOVE the Minotaur in Helix. It was a driver for me selling my FM3 and buying another Helix Floor.

    • @ericwarrington6650
      @ericwarrington6650 Рік тому +1

      @@adambartlow5489 it's really good man.. visually dead on.. sonically just amazing response to dynamics of your playing

    • @Tone2town
      @Tone2town Рік тому

      @@IamtheFerryMan it is cool to see someone that actually understands how good the Helix / hx stomp is . Some people don’t get it yet…they all love that Hype train . 😵🤣

  • @PhatLvis
    @PhatLvis Рік тому +4

    People have taken "transparent overdrive" to mean something like "preserves your amp tone," or "doesn't interfere with" something. The term was actually coined to refer to pedals like the Klon which incorporate a parallel, unaffected clean signal, with the overdrive sitting on top, or superimposed, in the manner of a transparency sheet on an overhead projector.

    • @Tone2town
      @Tone2town Рік тому

      I am surprised that some guitarist don’t know to just buy a looper or a blender , a boost and EQ . You can replicate a lot of sounds with just three pedals.
      They love that HYPE Train 🚂 it goes round and it don’t stop … lol

  • @jeffjfindley4802
    @jeffjfindley4802 Рік тому +2

    Best template for an OD, says I. Can't make it sound bad. You sound fantastic as always.

  • @JT96708
    @JT96708 Рік тому

    I love that intro jam! Keep that up.

  • @allenhayesmusic
    @allenhayesmusic Рік тому +4

    I use the Mythos Wildwood Mjolnir and I love it! ❤

  • @OldStreetDoc
    @OldStreetDoc Рік тому +3

    It’s a weird thing… when one ‘product’ does something so different & so well, that it becomes it’s own ‘thing’. And the Klon Centaur definitely did just that. It’s almost a unicorn to me. I’ve seen it used in live performances a lot, and I’ve seen & played a lot of clones personally, but I’ve never even SEEN a Centaur before in person. To a lot of folks, myself included, I think it sort of became this mythical ‘idea’ of a sound almost. Hence the price tag I guess. From what I understand, he still occasionally makes them by direct order. Or at least he did. One day I’d like to have one… but that bubble will most definitely have to have popped by that time.

  • @robert_starling
    @robert_starling Рік тому

    Nice! Short, sweet and to the point!

  • @jimicrack29
    @jimicrack29 Рік тому

    thank you too rhett for your time plus im waiting for the rain an storm to arrive soon.

  • @Roomsound101
    @Roomsound101 Рік тому +12

    For those of us who might be more limited on $$$ we need videos like this! The help is much appreciated!!!

  • @samaitcheson7057
    @samaitcheson7057 Рік тому +3

    I just got a Crazy Tube Circuits Unobtanium. Klon and 2 Dumbles in one pedal. Best sounding overdrive pedal I've ever had my hands on and cost 250GBP.

    • @Filippo-vj9oy
      @Filippo-vj9oy Рік тому +1

      I ordered the same pedal on thomann and I’m looking forward to have it, glad to hear that sounds good since I basically made a blind purchase lol

    • @samaitcheson7057
      @samaitcheson7057 Рік тому

      @@Filippo-vj9oy I don't think you'll be disappointed

  • @chrisday5341
    @chrisday5341 Рік тому +1

    Killer video! Kind of surprised by the DS-1 portion. I'm a fan of the K circuit on the Nordvang Gain and the Centura. Not identical but gets the vibe!

  • @lazarus-lake
    @lazarus-lake Рік тому +2

    I currently use the Nordvang ‘83 Drive, a BB and Klon 2-in-1. One of my favorite pedals.

  • @MiguelGebremedhin
    @MiguelGebremedhin Рік тому +3

    One thing no one seems to mention is how HUGE the original circuit is. I would have to give up 3 or 4 other pedals just to make space for the original size Klon

    • @joermnyc
      @joermnyc Рік тому

      I mean that seems to be a thing in pedals until recently: the original Big Muff is in a huge case, but the circuit board is hilariously tiny.

  • @Mike_Spor
    @Mike_Spor Рік тому +7

    Because they got the pedal itch? I bought a copy for $68 from a friend who makes killer pedals. If anyone is interested.

  • @Jimbowlcoach
    @Jimbowlcoach Рік тому

    @RhettShull I love your videos! I don’t play guitar yet, but I always wondered what everything does, and you are skilled enough to show what you are talking about , I look forward to learning how to play some day

  • @scottkidwellmusic9175
    @scottkidwellmusic9175 Рік тому

    I appreciate the education on the Klon and Klones. That's a pretty cool and innovative circuit.
    I get the hype, the Klon does the thing. For my money, currently, I have a few Klones I'm more than happy with, including the Wildwood Mjolnir.
    Enjoyed the jams throughout the video, too! Interesting timestamp on the outro

  • @frankrizzo5710
    @frankrizzo5710 Рік тому +26

    Because they have too much money, or they’re too picky and nothing will ever do.

    • @CodyMWI
      @CodyMWI Рік тому +1

      People spend money on their passions. Look at the cost of real U47. If you have used one you will know why. Clones are pretty good now days but certain pieces of gear have a magic that can’t be reproduced. El8 distressors are another magic sound.

    • @kwyatt261
      @kwyatt261 Рік тому

      @@CodyMWI Of course, but most of the magic is how it feels to the player or person using it, not necessarily how it sounds. If these things were only about how things sounded, people wouldn't pay $4,900 more than they needed to for that littlest of sonic differences, which are mostly imperceptible to the average listener.

    • @CodyMWI
      @CodyMWI Рік тому

      @@kwyatt261 I’m pretty sure sounds and feel are interchangeable as a player. But …you caught me I’m an audio engineer. Musicians aren’t concerned with what the average listener hears it’s what they hear. Most people listen to compressed garbage in earbuds. As an engineer I do care how it sounds out of the studio monitors. As a composer I do care how it sounds in ideal listening conditions. But sonic quality does not equate to the magic I’m talking about. Technically it’s harmonic distortion that excites specific overtones and creates a unique quality. Regardless you are correct in a way vintage gear is for gear heads.

  • @ericskinner7355
    @ericskinner7355 Рік тому +2

    When they first came out, they were $300 at a local music store. Most other dirt boxes were about $100. In hindsight maybe I should have spent three times as much...

  • @brentonwood1811
    @brentonwood1811 Рік тому

    Love your demo from about 15:50 sounds awesome like you were really inspired by the Klon!. Have you done a full track because if not you should and release it - sounds fantastic! Well done!

  • @huguesbailloeul
    @huguesbailloeul Рік тому

    Rhett ! In my opinion your channel is the most understable, enjoyable and beautiful content on the internet for anyone who likes guitar and beautiful stuffs about it !

  • @banditsbikeco3439
    @banditsbikeco3439 Рік тому +12

    The Klon…a 5k pedal most use as a glorified tone shifter rather then a gain pedal 😂 these always make me laugh

    • @willcraig6421
      @willcraig6421 Рік тому +2

      Finnegan agrees!He can’t believe that anyone pays Elephant Bux for the “magical diodes” and then doesn’t use them!

    • @banditsbikeco3439
      @banditsbikeco3439 Рік тому +4

      @@willcraig6421 isn’t it just the silliest thing? I won’t argue the tone is typically nice, but can also be achieved for a less then $200 pedal.

    • @God-sz4pf
      @God-sz4pf 8 місяців тому

      @@banditsbikeco3439 there are clones that are the exact circuit for 200 dollar the only thing missing are the "magical diodes" which are the entire selling point of the klon even though they are normal germanium

  • @Benz2112
    @Benz2112 Рік тому

    Josh really summed it up nicely with his comments. I remember being 13 years old and finding the early boutique pedal websites and thinking that I was a part of something special for knowing about stuff that wasn't Boss, MXR, or DOD. The pedal market has lots of stuff now that is built on hype, some of it very well justified, but there is a lot of builders that are killing it right now and are not being hyped. I bought a fuzz on Reverb for like $100 recently, and it is just a killer big muff style pedal, so there is something for everyone. I think a good takeaway from Dan's comments is that a lot of the magic here is from the blend of clean and dirty signal, and having an appreciation for the level of saturation juxtaposed with how much headroom you have to work with is important in shaping your tone.

  • @JustinJeske
    @JustinJeske Рік тому +2

    Great video Rhett! I bought one a year and a half ago because it's a collectors item and a real special piece of guitar pedal history, however anyone who says you can't replicate it is just wrong. Lots of pedals out there can get the sound and do it really well, besides the Soul Food, but it's just a cool piece of gear to have.

  • @honkytonkinson9787
    @honkytonkinson9787 Рік тому +3

    I’m pretty happy with my $100 klone
    For $5000 you could get a rig that sounds good enough without pedals

    • @222triple
      @222triple Рік тому

      Bill designed the Klon ( with help from two MIT guys) to produce the sound of his guitar and amp in large venues that he could replicate in small venues.

  • @tomas.lindroos
    @tomas.lindroos Рік тому +6

    A friend of mine traded away his Klon sometimes in the late 90'es. In retrospect, maybe the worst deal ever. He got a Boss Metal Zone in exchange... ;)

    • @Koga_fan_013
      @Koga_fan_013 Рік тому +1

      Bruh

    • @CorbCorbin
      @CorbCorbin Рік тому

      Why would he do that? The Klon was a much more expensive pedal when he was released.
      Your friend is an idiot. Why trade a $225 new Klon, for a Metal Zone that could’ve been found for less than $100?

    • @nuthinbutlove
      @nuthinbutlove Рік тому

      Geez 🙄

    • @castleanthrax1833
      @castleanthrax1833 Рік тому

      🤦‍♂️🤬😢

    • @joermnyc
      @joermnyc Рік тому

      Now you can sell that Klon and buy ten whole pedalboards of “Metal” pedals! 😂

  • @Lantertronics
    @Lantertronics Рік тому

    Yes! Rhett! You did a really wonderful important thing that most people don't do with their comparison videos which is to actually dial in the clone instead of trying to set the knobs at exactly the same physical position. Most people don't realize that parts, in particular pots, have tolerances. An 10:00 setting on two 100K pots is not going to read the same between the two pots. Nobody manufacturing pedals is trying to bin their parts to a tighter tolerance than what a particular line of parts naturally offers. So, as you note, if you put two original Klons side by side, they will be slightly different, and to try to get them to sound the same you'd have to dial them in the same way. I suspect the biggest source of variation in Klons and Klon clones may be the weird ganged pot.

  • @sicklefinger
    @sicklefinger Рік тому

    I like your playin'. I don't even know what bands you play with but you got some tasteful licks. And the channel is pretty damn educational, too.

  • @benbutterworth7584
    @benbutterworth7584 Рік тому +8

    Sounds killer. But maybe not $5,000.

    • @thomasandersson9605
      @thomasandersson9605 Рік тому +1

      I get it if someone have a lot of money but no sane person who doesn't do NOT need this.

    • @castleanthrax1833
      @castleanthrax1833 Рік тому +1

      I'd pay that if you were guaranteed you couldn't "lose" money, if you had to sell. Let's face it, most people have a few grand that's not earning any interest in the bank.

  • @offbeatbassgear
    @offbeatbassgear Рік тому +15

    An absurd price for what's about $150 in electronic components, like so many other trends with gear.

    • @TedSchoenling
      @TedSchoenling Рік тому +2

      I built one.. from scratch not a kit. it isn't even 150 in parts.. the box is the most expensive part in that you can put it together for less than 30 bucks.. easy.

    • @drmaster1258
      @drmaster1258 Рік тому

      @@TedSchoenling Do you plans for it? Would also built me one, but don't have any experience with building pedals.

    • @DanielBobke
      @DanielBobke Рік тому

      @@drmaster1258 Get the StewMac kit... it's really well done and fun to build. Many comparisons on UA-cam with a real Klon and it is exact.

    • @offbeatbassgear
      @offbeatbassgear Рік тому

      @@TedSchoenling I have the Ghost Drive Klon Klone kit from Stew Mac as a project. It looks do-able over a five hour afternoon, but I've not started it yet. I'm looking forward to it, and even if you buy the full kit you can do the whole thing for about $150 in solder and the kit and four or five lengths of wire. I'm hoping it goes okay....

    • @indegruv
      @indegruv Рік тому +1

      imagine how much you're getting ripped off when you're buying a new car or house

  • @Birbdup
    @Birbdup Рік тому

    That outro jam was so good, would love to hear more of the Falcon on the channel.

  • @devinwilliams4038
    @devinwilliams4038 Рік тому

    I have a Pedal Monsters Klon Klone and I absolutely love it. It stays on in front of my clean channel 100% of the time.

  • @brandonbryson3317
    @brandonbryson3317 Рік тому +3

    I mean, I can buy a high end amp and a high end guitar for that, so nah…not even remotely worth it. It’s been cloned so many times that it would be foolish to take this pedal out to a gig. It’s basically just a trophy piece for collectors. Total waste of money if you aren’t a rich collector.

  • @alexander_winston
    @alexander_winston Рік тому +12

    Most over hyped gear ever. My friend has a Klon, we placed it next to my MXR Fat Sugar, and there was no discernible difference. Except the $4,925.

    • @smelltheglove2038
      @smelltheglove2038 Рік тому +1

      I really like that jrockett Ikon thing. It’s pretty good. I put it in front of my Timmy and it works perfect together with a LP, 335, and my strat.

    • @alexander_winston
      @alexander_winston Рік тому

      Nice!

  • @Daveshotpocket
    @Daveshotpocket Рік тому +1

    When Rhett turned up the gain control, I shouted out "Rock and Roll baby! Woooo!"

  • @ThePandaProcrastinates
    @ThePandaProcrastinates Рік тому

    Sweet jam track man! That Klon sound great!
    Have you thought about trying out the Horsemeat?

  • @TedSchoenling
    @TedSchoenling Рік тому +3

    no get a clone. you can copy a circuit and there is no magic there. if you think you are gonna sound better with a real one than a clone I have better ways to separate you from your money

    • @indegruv
      @indegruv Рік тому +3

      maybe for simple guitar pedal circuits but not true for vintage type gear. the components are not made the same anymore, its even hard to get copper wiring these days.

    • @bobbarcus8310
      @bobbarcus8310 Рік тому +1

      He covers parts in black tar So if it breaks that’s it

  • @mikemorrisonmusic
    @mikemorrisonmusic Рік тому +3

    No, it’s not worth $5k!

  • @gregrandallbtsr03
    @gregrandallbtsr03 Рік тому

    Thanks Rhett. I've never played a Klon, but I really enjoy my Mythos Mjolnir Wildwood edition. Very musical, as you described.

  • @wolfsoto
    @wolfsoto Рік тому

    I own the J. Rockett Archer it's excellent Klon Clone. I too was hesitant until I pick one up and notice the difference it made when I stacked it in front of my drives and fuzzes. it made everything come to live.

  • @Hrithik23
    @Hrithik23 Рік тому +3

    I know people hate Rhett a lot but I like him because he brings attention to very lesser known pedals like Klon
    Edit: how many times are you gonna make this video?

  • @chrish4858
    @chrish4858 Рік тому +4

    did you know the English word "clone" actually comes from the name Klon as boutique builders scrambled for a word to describe replicating this masterpiece without breaking copyright?

    • @gregd637
      @gregd637 Рік тому

      I really doubt. haha

  • @joetamm
    @joetamm Рік тому +1

    I got the StewMac Ghost Drive a while back, it’s one of best sounding pedals I’ve had and was easy to build. I put up a demo of it also. There are plenty of good clones that will get you the tone and sounds you want.

  • @thecheeseloaf6976
    @thecheeseloaf6976 Рік тому +1

    love the intro jam, you should get guests to come on for a little jam. Live sound is best fr

  • @Varone26
    @Varone26 Рік тому +3

    "Why Are People Paying $5,000 (or more) For The Klon?"
    Because a majority of our community is stupid.

  • @ColinDaviesGTR
    @ColinDaviesGTR Рік тому +3

    most overrated piece of gear in existence

  • @wrensong07
    @wrensong07 Рік тому

    Thanks for this video Rhett. I would definitely consider owning a clone clon.

  • @drkaplin98
    @drkaplin98 Рік тому +1

    The Sparkle Drive does the same thing with blending a clean signal mixed with a distortion circuit. It's a really nice pedal.

  • @MR_Robbers
    @MR_Robbers Рік тому

    Beauty groove dude

  • @johnweeks6267
    @johnweeks6267 Рік тому +1

    Great vid! Would love to see a review on the kanji pedal by lovepedal. The cream colored one especially

  • @chrispygingerpie
    @chrispygingerpie Рік тому

    I have a klone that the IT guy at my work made, he is old enough to have been around when they first came out and we work at a theatre that had some old sound desks. Lets just say he has a healthy stock of NOS parts. Mine is definitely unlike the kits you get and I do often wonder how it compares to an actual one. I think it's extremely close to what I heard in your video and others. Love the thing!

  • @bigdaddystinkeye
    @bigdaddystinkeye Рік тому +2

    Bought my Centaur in mid 90's and have never been tempted to sell it. You had to call Bill to get one. I remember part of that conversation and he asked me what guitar and amp I was using. He seemed like a real ethical guy and didn't want o sell me something I couldn't use. It was, after all, a $225 unit new back then, over double what OD pedals were going for. I have bought a clone or two over the years (JHS, Rockett and a Klon KTR). To my ears they come close but not quite the same. It's probably just psychological. Still my favorite OD of all time. I also really like the JHS Morning Glory.

    • @gr8fuljon
      @gr8fuljon Рік тому +1

      its NOT psychological -- the best ones only get about 95% of the way there.

  • @DCDacey-cq6nb
    @DCDacey-cq6nb Рік тому

    Love the way you play. Awesome. Great Klon tones too. I own the Decibelics Golden Horse. It’s said to be an EXACT copy. ($300) There’s a comparison on UA-cam somewhere. I think it sounds awesome. I also own a Mosky Golden Horse (under $20 a few years ago). Are they the same, no. Are they close, sort of. The Nobels OD-1 and the Kingsley Paige are some very nice drives that change the sound even less than the Klon. But, I am a huge fan of the Klon. I use the Mosky for more gain, in a solo that I can’t play super clean. (Flying’ high again-Ozzy). Those taps are hard (for me) to play clean without a little more dirt. That being said, the “harshness” of the Mosky is actually nice. It’s hard to tell it’s on with a distorted sound anyway. I use the Marshall Bluebreaker pedal with my jam band, and I’ve found that to be “somewhat” transparent too. I never knew about the concentric pot in the Klon. Thank you much for that. Rock on! Rhett.

  • @hellodacky8715
    @hellodacky8715 Рік тому +1

    I’ve been fortunate enough to play an original gold Centaur. It sounded incredible and while I understand the mystery behind it and why it might go for so much, there are so many options out there at such an affordable price that can be purchased that come pretty close to the Klon. I personally wouldn’t be able to justify purchasing an original Klon at such a high price or a KTR at the prices those are going for now too.

  • @Bob-of-Zoid
    @Bob-of-Zoid Рік тому +1

    I went to Sweetwater and looked for a Clon Clone. I ran into another guy looking for one, so we teamed up to compare them together. Of course they didn't have a real Clon for comparison but both of us heard plenty of videos of them, and I'm old and had used a borrowed one many times decades ago, and at least thought I remembered it well enough.
    We tried all 5 they had, him with a Les Paul (he smoked), and me with a telly since I play one I built from scratch that although looks nothing like a telly (not a copy of anything) does have Telly pickups because I like the sound. We played all kinds of styles and licks tweaking knobs..., and we both had to agree on the TC electronics "Zeus Drive". We also had a blast talking about bands and songs, and even "Stupid Musicans"🤤 after Glenn Fricker was mentioned.
    All the others had at least one knob that had little room between not enough and too much, making them too hard to tweak, one where the tone didn't do much at all.😠 Two never really got close to the Clon sound. We kept going back and forth between them eliminating one after the other, the last two both had the right sound, but one at $200+ was still not easy to tweak, but the Zeus had room to move within the sweet spot. 😎 I in addition the Zeus has a little extra switch for "Fat", and man as soon as you flip it, it adds creamy fat to the gristle in only a good way😋. We were like 😮🤯!
    It was ~$80 among 4 others, only one just a tad lower and the rest all above $120, and the worse one was 2nd most expensive! It was a no brainer🤕. We both got the Zeus because it just stood a few steps above the rest. It's also small and compact with the jacks in the back and out of the way, and all tough metal construction.👍 It doesn't come with a power supply though😕, but any good pedal board should have one, and any 9V wall wart will do, which are dirt cheep to begin with.

    • @castleanthrax1833
      @castleanthrax1833 Рік тому

      It's nice when the affordable stuff ticks the boxes for ya. My klone is one of my cheapest pedals, but it is my most used one.

    • @Bob-of-Zoid
      @Bob-of-Zoid Рік тому +1

      @@castleanthrax1833 Yeah, as soon as I set it up at home, it became a nearly "always on" pedal, because it can fatten the sound without changing too much in any one way, and when I need more, I have other pedals for more extreme changes. I still use a volume pedal to either cut or push the signal the rest of the pedals get to begin with, which is great for overall control between mild and wild of everything following it, but put the Zeus ahead of it as the starting point, so I don't get into the tiny lifeless sound territory anymore at lower volumes. The volume pedal in many ways is often a better choice than switching pickups between rhythm and lead.
      It may have been true between the 1800's up to the 60's where you almost always got better for paying more, but now with hype marketing, gimmickry, word salad and rhetorical dogma, put way above giving real specs and usable info, even worse seemingly more people that fall for it, they can much easier sell shit for shinola, and use the placebo effect to get your money. I could care less how they cloned the Clon that well, how many years it took, who had anything to do with it, and especially not how all that often ridiculous unscientific nonsense AKA "Magic" so many spout came together! The device itself in hand has to speak for itself, end of story.

  • @jeffmazzei8520
    @jeffmazzei8520 Рік тому +2

    Rhett there so many choices !! The Archer , Wampler Tumness ! All sound just as good ! Just like there is no magic powers in vintage guitars, amps and pedals ! So many choices that sound exactly like the Klon.

    • @godbyone
      @godbyone Рік тому

      Archer is 99.4 percent same archer Jeff beck mod 100 percent same

  • @jgratzke766
    @jgratzke766 Рік тому

    Really dug the outro music. Killer pedal.

  • @brianwood7237
    @brianwood7237 Рік тому

    I knew a guy, older guy, who had a Klon, one of the last ones made or so he told me... he also had one of the earlier Zen drives the one Robben Ford has... I had the pleasure of playing through both of them through a divided by 13 15 watt head and matching 1x12 cab using one of my personal guitars and a custom shop 50s strat. It wasn't a jam I just got to play for a little bit can't say I had anything less than a great time both are very responsive. When we were done he packed everything away. He put the pedals in a safe in the floor of his office in his home. He said if I die you can have the divided by 13 rig...but the Klon I'm keeping for my kids college fund...one day they're gonna be selling for 10k or more...that was in 2009...I STILL think the tone is in your fingers, but I've driven a Ferrari and it was way more fun than my Prius fosho

  • @JosephCompton66
    @JosephCompton66 Рік тому

    I just got the Wampler Tumnus. I love the sound. Could I afford a real one, sure. Am I good enough to tell the difference, not so much. I really appreciate all of the education you do here. I am pretty sure that I am going to add a Fender Deluxe Tone King Blond because of you. I live in a condo, and there is no way I can play a tube amp at volume for the sound. But with that amp’s power attenuation, it looks like it is the perfect practice amp out there. Thanks for all your help.

  • @Matt-1d
    @Matt-1d Рік тому +2

    Such incredible tone out of the Klon! Too rich for my blood though, and my audience (houseplants and the family dog) don't care enough about my tone to justify the investment. However, I use a Wampler Tumnus Deluxe and absolutely love it. Thanks for the backing track! Sounds killer!

  • @peterellman9672
    @peterellman9672 Рік тому

    I’ve had two, I don’t have them anymore. but I’ve become more interested in building my studio than my guitar stuff… don’t regret letting em go

  • @lorenzosteffani9480
    @lorenzosteffani9480 Рік тому +1

    I usually use the fractal's Klon sim and it's great!

  • @tomfinn8076
    @tomfinn8076 Рік тому

    The Mjolnir is a fantastic pedal. I've never played an actual Klon so i have no frame of reference for how similar it feels, but when i clicked that thing on to try it out, it turned heads in the store.

  • @dude_crush_
    @dude_crush_ Рік тому +1

    For under $200 I'm very happy with my Warm Audio Centavo. I also really dig the mod switch, it basically beefs it up a bit. I like calling it The Klon Centavo.

  • @koski666
    @koski666 Рік тому +2

    I bought a KTR brand new at the regular price, and I love it very much. Sounds great to push my amp or to stack a fuzz into. Now...where is the vid about the Space Echo? :P

  • @whenvioletsturngrey9597
    @whenvioletsturngrey9597 Рік тому +1

    Sounds wicked! Especially with the Falcon. That's a lot of money for a pedal, though....

  • @LucasHaneman
    @LucasHaneman Рік тому +1

    Love the track at the beginning! Sounds wonderful. This pedal certainly does something unique, but I don’t think it’s for everyone. Certainly not worth the money it’s going for now, and yes it’s easy to approximate the sound with other gear. In my opinion a players time is better spent finding under the radar pedals etc. that truly work with our hands and our rigs. In the long run this usually equates to less money spent on pedals, and more time spent practising and finding our own voice on the instrument. Of course just an opinion, but there are plenty of great options out there for overdrive pedals these days. Some of the alternatives mentioned in this video do a fantastic job and only cost $100 or so. :-)

  • @danmarcus1775
    @danmarcus1775 Рік тому

    Rhett, the original trax you play on your videos rule! That tune in the outro is particularly tasty. When's a solo album dropping?

  • @AndiPicker
    @AndiPicker Рік тому +1

    I'm happy enough with my IKON - funnily enough I don't really like the sound that much on its own, but it does a great job as a solo boost and cut pedal on stage.

  • @julius2790
    @julius2790 Рік тому +2

    I've had a klone for years but I usually just leave it on as a boost. It sweetens the sound IMO. Not as big a fan of the gain unless the amp is already being pushed hard and even then only within the context of a mix.

  • @MrLittleblindshakey
    @MrLittleblindshakey Рік тому

    Hey Rhett, I purchased the silver no-logo Klon new. When I first got it, I played it for an hour and thought "no big deal." I was going to return or sell it, but I put it in a box that eventually went to the storage locker. I pulled it out about 10 years ago and tried it again and thought it was great with my electric guitars. I changed, not the Klon, LOL! I have the original paperwork that came with it. "Three Important Notes" (typed) and Centaur Professional Overdrive (handwritten). Two individual pages of instructions on use, slightly different explanations on use and settings. I have played acoustic exclusively for the past decade and searched for an overdrive that works with an acoustic guitar. For that purpose, I purchased a Tumnus for my pedal board, which works great. I rarely see any videos on overdrive for acoustic. Perhaps you could give it a shot, with a Tumnus. Just say'n. - Dave

  • @tonystartup3817
    @tonystartup3817 Рік тому

    Love a klon klone. Great circuit and I normally use it pretty much with the same settings as Rhett into an amp that's already pretty gainy. Can get some lovely singing lead tones that way. A klon is perfect for when a tube screamer is too mid forward/bass light and a boss sd1 cuts too much bass. The klon circuit trims just a little bass to keep it from getting flubby and pushes a little mids so you can be heard without it getting honkey but keeps it just enough like the original sound so that you don't notice that you've fundamentally changed guitar tone. It's like a nitro boost that just gives you more of what you need

  • @chrismitchell523
    @chrismitchell523 Рік тому +1

    Nice Shirt. The Final Cut is so crazy underrated

  • @Shiznitt_
    @Shiznitt_ Рік тому

    Killed it with the intro song 🤘

  • @noahmichael2213
    @noahmichael2213 Рік тому +2

    Surprised not much talk about the KTR. Same thing and they can be had for $300 if you're willing to wait years...or probably around $700 if you want one now. I was able to pick one up many years ago and I love it

    • @willcraig6421
      @willcraig6421 Рік тому +1

      KTRs just don’t get the love.I’m a firm believer.Back in ‘16(I think)my logic was “buy a Real Klon and watch it become an investment”,and it has.Spent $269 at Humbucker Music.
      I tried to use a Klone,but they’re not the same.

  • @ronnyskaar3737
    @ronnyskaar3737 Рік тому

    I have the Soul Food by Elektrohamonix. Very happy with it. Fine video, Rhett