I'll say the same thing about Penix that I said about stroud. Knocking a guy from not playing out of structure to me is crazy. He can do it but he doesn't do it alot because he'd rather kill you in the pocket. That's the way football is suposed to be played. The outside of structure stuff to me is a plus but only means something if accompanied by good pocket play. No Spencer Rattler is crazy to me but understandable. He's been pretty steady but his team has been up and down. From what I've heard some NFL scouts see him higher on their list than people think.
As a Bears fan, if they decide to move on from Fields, Penix is my guy. Pair him with Marvin Harrison Jr, DJ Moore, and an improved o-line and he will cook.
@@llkla4507 Bears will have a top 2 overall pick from Carolina, likely 1st, and their own pick will be top 10, likely top 5. Penix for now is projected to be a mid to late 1st rounder, so they could trade back their pick and draft MHJ with the Carolina pick. Penix could shoot up the draft boards or he could also fall to the 2nd if his medical don’t come back with good results. I believe in the kid though, especially if he has weapons like MHJ and Moore. Bears o-line is getting much better… a lot of injuries to start the season, they have gotten healthy.
Daniels reminds me so much of Lamar when he came out. They both have crazy arm talent and stupid mobility but both could get away with not fully going through progressions and not anticipating throws. I feel like he could look like Lamar did in his rookie season but if he can develop a little bit as a drop back passer he will be a superstar.
I can definitely see that comparison, I agree much like Lamar when he was younger I think Daniels will need to learn to protect himself better and be more consistent with his full field progressions but the talent is there to have a Lamar Jackson like career for sure
@@ultimatescoutingCaleb Williams has won a Heisman while Drake has not, Caleb should be number one. Your argument that Caleb Williams has better talent around him is a wash and not a good point because Drake plays against worse opponents then Caleb Williams.
Carson Beck isn't just a game manager. He can sit in the pocket and throw and that's the main skillset you need to succeed in the NFL. Beck has an NFL arm and has improved as the season has gone on. Currently 9th in FBS for passing yards this season with a 72.2% completion rate.
Great list, haven't seen 1 UNC game. Caleb Williams to me seems to be slipping, Daniels & Beck are rising fast. Seen last 3 games of Beck (all ranked teams) and his accuracy and where to go with the ball is impressive. Would love for Falcons to get Daniels in 1st round around pick 7-12 if there!
I've watched a few UNC games (coincidentally only the ones they lost...😅). Drake Maye really seems to have regressed this year. He's making fundamental mistakes and errors in defensive reads that cost the team wins this season. It is a stark contrast to last year's mighty performance. I think it would do Drake Maye a lot of good to hold out for another year to polish his game before jumping to the draft. I worry he'll ruin his NFL career if he jumps to the NFL with the various issues he needs to clean up first. Most NFL teams don't seem as patient as they used to be about QB development, after all...
Nah Falcons won’t get Daniels, how we draft with Arthur smith if we get a QB they’ll get like Bo Nix. Im a LSU and Falcons fan. It would be a dream come thru if they got Daniels but they won’t. Plus they gonna have like a #18-20 pick
Caleb only issue is he has to do too much if the defense wasn't giving up 40 ppg he wouldn't have to worry about scoring every play, if his o line was good he wouldn't have to worry about running for his life while still trying to find a open wr so personally I would take Caleb #1 but Drake maye is really good and so is Daniels this might be the deepest QB class I've ever seen
So please explain to me why Nix gets punished for looking bad on a terrible team in Auburn and transferring, but Jayden Daniels transfers from UCLA after 3 years of interceptions, and he is not, Caleb Williams also transfered he didn't start as a rookie, has not beaten anyone, and every defense that has NFL level secondary EATS HIM UP. MAYE? What has he done? Stop grading QBs on potential and btw you CANNOT have a grade over 100 sorry, start over.
Nix isn’t punished at all for his time at Auburn, it’s simply an observation that he has come a long way (Like Daniels) to becoming a quality NFL draft prospect since he was really not very good at Auburn. Potential matters at QB, if you don’t have a top 10 QB, you probably are limiting your chances at winning a Super Bowl in the NFL. I don’t necessarily think Nix has potential to be a top 10 QB because of his lack of arm talent and true physical gifts which is why someone like Daniels is ranked over him. You can succeed in the NFL without those elite gifts (Brady, Burrow, Manning, etc) but the margin for error is just much smaller
Important factors are coach and quarterback relationship, offensive Style and quarterback attributes. Bo Nix reminds me of Brock Purdy before Brock Purdy was discovered. He'll thrive in a zone read system
@@ultimatescouting Not sure where you think Nix has a lack of Arm Talent or athleticism. He has more rushing TDs than Daniels the last two seasons, and doubt his arm at your own risk, just watch his tape.
Not having Caleb Williams #1 in his own draft class when is widely regarded as on of the best QB prospects in the last decade is WILD… the recency bias is crazy lol
@@BloodySoup74 I'd move him higher on the draft board for that crying episode. This is a guy who CARES about winning. The public display part can be mentored out of him in the pros if needed.
I would love for him to stay in school maybe get a bit more opportunity to prove he can be the driving force for an elite offense. If he can show that and be less of a compliment to their elite running game he could certainly be an early pick in 2025
I have to disagree on Beck slightly. I think he makes the right throw on 99% of dropbacks. He can read a defense he’s a great processor and understands what the defense is trying to do to him. I think scouts are really going to love Beck
Jayden Daniels is a monster!! While I might be in the minority I think Daniels is the best QB in this draft. He has that extra gear that could drive defensive coordinators crazy in the NFL. Best player in the draft and it's not even close.
Going to say this , see if Jayden Daniels wins the Heisman if he does watch just watch the NFL draft also his combine he might be top 10 pick would not surprise me. This draft is the most loaded at QB we will have seen.
@@ultimatescouting Bengals just don't seem to value the TE spot that much right now. They'll probably draft an O-line in the 1st (since they'll need to fill potentially two spots there) or a DT replacement (if Reader doesn't return). I could see them grab a Higgins replacement in LSU's Brian Thomas Jr who plays near identical to Higgins and could be grabbed early in the 2nd round most likely. As a Bengals and LSU fan, I really wanna see the Bengals make the full run back to the super bowl!
Caleb also has personality issues. He’s a I I I guy instead of being a team guy. For some reason people never bring up those issues about QBs. Being a good leader is a big deal and the guys all about themselves aren’t leaders
@@brandonryce6801 Yes and no. Much like arm talent, there's a level of accuracy that just can't be taught. Look at the long standing QBs, like Kirk Cousins, Dak Prescott, and Geno Smith and the like. They've had years to be taught to improve their accuracy, but haven't done so. It doesn't matter how strong of an arm someone has if they keep throwing the ball to the opposing defense instead of their receivers.
@@brandonryce6801 If you want a strong arm example, then Justin Herbert has seemingly gotten worse each and every year with his accuracy despite the booming arm. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Daniel Jones also have a strong arm? I know we never see it cause he's not accurate enough to sling it downfield without it getting intercepted, but I believe he did have that strong arm hype when he came in too if I am remembering correctly. Probably the only success story of a strong arm over accuracy QB pick was Josh Allen by the Bills. Name another current starting strong arm QB whose accuracy improved over the seasons. Allen is the only currrent starter that comes to mind for me... On another note, how often have strong arm QBs made it to the super bowl? Mahomes, Burrow, Stafford, Brady all didn't have strong arms, but good accuracy instead. I don't pay enough attention to the Eagles, does Hurts have a strong arm or no?
You nailed it I think! As a Commanders fan, I’m praying they don’t screw it up and pass on Maye. What he was able to do with very little talent around him was amazing!
Good rundown. The one thing I question with Maye is his decision making though. Each game I’ve watched he was fortunate not to throw a couple of picks when trying to make something happen with nothing there. On the flip side, he can be pretty conservative a times. He really does remind me of Kirk Cousins with a little more comfortability running. He has that quiet mind in the pocket to pick you apart. He could really use a year or two behind a guy. Ironically, probably bets fit is behind Kirk Cousins 😂
As a Vikings fan I would be all about that. But I think he will be one of the top 3 picks in the draft by the time all of the Pro Days and combine are over. Vikings only chance will be to trade up into the top 3.
I think the Patriots need Caleb they can always draft an OT later, it seems to always work out for them Cole Strange was a reach but he’s a consistent starter, Sidy Sow has been a gem, David Andrews is still a solid center, Mike Onwenu is still good, Trent is iffy but we can use a second or 3rd rounder to develop his replacement. And WRs I think are subpar but have potential we can always look to free agency and the second round for something good there. But Rn we need the best off-script and play is busted QB to be our QB because that situation happens often for us and Caleb’s ability to escape pressure and deliver accurate passes on the run is a need to start the offensive rebuild.
While I agree with everything you said I believe Maye fits our system better. But we are splitting hairs and I would be thrilled to get either one. Now we just gotta worry about teams trading up ahead of us
With all the Shanahan offenses currently in the NFL. Nix's skillset is a system fit Matrimony. All the dinkin dunk throws and disguising Zone reads. The Vikes need him ASAP
@@stevenhanson3185 he won freshman of the year and was Off Script a lot in Hughes offense. Not necessarily bad but with Dan Lanning he was more on schedule with the right Personnel around him. KOC and Justin Jefferson will make a trifecta out of him
@@RedEyePergo I don’t disagree at all that he will most likely be the 3rd QB off the board. I think NFL teams will see the potential and take the swing, I just don’t see that caliber of player myself (right now)
This is really well done, thorough analysis. My two cents based on just highlight vids and watching a handful of games is that Daniels has crazy stats this but seems to have benefited from a lot of clean pockets and YAC (though you could probably say that about a lot of them). Drake Maye’s highlights are sick and, perhaps more than any othe QB on the list he hits receivers in stride, which I think should be its own category in an analysis like this. As a not-used-to-sucking Patriots fan, I’d be thrilled with any of the top three, with a slight preference for Maye and Daniels over Williams, but I should watch some of his actual games to get a better sense. The big difference between Daniel’s and Lamar is that Daniel’s only started looking like this kind of player. Lamar looked like Lamar in high school, when his highlights looked like a video game.
Mate, are you worried Belichick will trade back for a safety that most people have mocked as a third rounder? Bill wants to be the only one responsible for success
This year he hasn’t been, he’s been dealing with his own injuries and obviously Burrow’s as well. I’d say he’s a top 20 receiver in the NFL when everything is going well. Would easily be the WR1 on the giants in my opinion
@@StevenEvens7125 If Bengals tag and trade him this off season (seemingly becoming more and more a possibility), they'd likely want either a 1st round pick or early 2nd plus a 3rd round pick for him. There will definitely be a number of WR needy teams wanting him along with the Jags that are trying their hardest to bring the Clemson offense back together. It will be interesting on who would offer what for Higgins.
Not UNC fan. But seen drake maye play. Could have gone pro last year. Good kid with family ties to UNC. With Not good cast of characters hw did well. Mobile, accurate, strong, great decision maker. Forget who plays for championship and who's hot or not. This guy, I hate to admit. Because I'm not UNC fan . Drake Maye is going to become franchise quarterback.
Love the content, just wanted to suggest something real quick. I think you’re too generous with some of the stats, particularly the 100% arm talent for Quinn Ewers. I think super high ratings work best when relative to other players and I just don’t see Ewers having a Josh Allen type of arm.
I love the Seahawks and I would absolutely love for the Seahawks to get Jayden Daniels, it's litterally too perfect but it's most likely out of our reach for how good he is.
I have a tough decision in my home SF league. I have the 1.01, I love Drake Maye, MHJ, and Caleb. I do need a QB 2 behind Herbert on my rebuilder, I have two 1sts, 3 2nds, 1 3rd, and 2 4th. I still could go MHJ at the 1.01 if I can’t trade back, this will be a tough decision for sure.
@@kriskomac044 I agree, I have Herbert, BY9, & Levis in my QB room. I also have the 1.04 and I could take Jayden Daniels there if I had too. I really love MHJ’s talent.
Yea I took over an orphaned team with Brady and Matty Ice who retired. So I had to trade Jefferson to get a QB and only have Doubs Oconnell, Hooker and Goff I just feel like I can still get a good starter at 1.06 and im in love with MHJ think he will be a top 5 guy for next 12+ yrs
Caleb is what happens when you know you have to press because you have the worse defense in CFB. Even though I also have Maye as my QB1 and also am concerned about the fumbles I give him slack because I don’t think there’s a defense that far behind relatively in the NFL(as in compared to their peers.) Mahomes dealt with the same thing at TTU.
USC not having a defense isn't a negative for Caleb and his passing numbers. It means he has to throw more often. Caleb has highly skilled WRs to throw to. They're loaded across the board on offense. Caleb isn't a NFL QB though. He's the product of a college system. He doesn't have the ability to sit in the pocket and go through progressions and pick a defense apart. He's also a mental midget. Soft California kid who needs a safe space while the game is going on lol. NFL teams should pass on this bust.
Lol. Williams has some of the best eyes ever. Knows where every PLAYER not just wr is at all times. Eyes all over his head. And you're saying he can't go thru progressions. Lmao.
@@gregquinn5474 he's made a career of throwing on the run. he can't sit in the pocket and pick apart a defense. that's not what he does son. then he runs and cries in mommy's arm after a loss. curled up in his binky on his couch with his dog. don't forget to paint your nails. Caleb is a hot mess and I think he actually understands he won't be anything in the NFL.
Yeah so much of being a QB is the person, intangibles and leadership that traits you have which is very tough to evaluate for those that don’t get to speak with the players and meet with them like teams do. I agree that it is critically important but isn’t easy to quantify
Good analysis and as a Jets fan, boy do we need a QB for the future! We will end up somewhere between 8-12 in the draft. I would love to see us grab Jayden Daniels and get by with Free agents on the offensive line until next year. It is time to get a QB for the future. We need to admit that Zack Wilson is not the answer and a bust. Rogers is a legend but is 40 years old. If we could trade up to get Drake Maye that would be great too. Watching Caleb Williams, I am not sure that he is a generational talent but very good and a solid choice like Jalen Hurts.
I find it funny that the top 2 on most people's draft boards have not been performing particularly well this year. Caleb Williams has shown some Dak Prescott-like bad decision making on quite a few occasions that has directly cost the team wins. Then there's Drake Maye that has been making mistakes at the fundamental level (that should have been taken care of in High School) and it has gotten reflected on the stats sheets and team win-loss record. Personally, I think it would do Drake Maye a lot of good to hold off and take another year to develop as I feel he'll ruin his NFL career if the goes into the draft right now with the various issues he's shown across this season. As for Caleb Williams... well, I just mentioned his comparable: Dak Prescott. I feel he's got that same trajectory about him. Could he make a super bowl run? Sure, as long as he's on a team that can compensate for the occasional boneheaded decisions from their QB. Cowboys haven't been able to accomplish that with Prescott as of yet. For me, the top 4 should be 1. Daniels (the complete QB of this year) 2. Nix (the sneaky good QB of this year, like Herbert was) 3. Williams (the overall solid QB) 4. Penix Jr (the best traditional pure pocket QB) (Left out Drake Maye as I think he should go another year, but would be QB5 on my list as things currently stand.)
Give me McCarthy or Bo Nix over any of these guys . Smart reads , no mistakes and good athletes and runners . Most importantly they are both LEADERS and WINNERS !
Caleb Williams reminds of me Baker Mayfield... he does NOT have the arm strength that you guys are saying he does. He has an 8.5/10 arm strength. And maybe 8 arm talent. And worst, cant read defenses and makes bad decisions.
You gave JJ Mccarthy a 100% arm talent?? 😂😂 I havent seen him throw pass farther than 15-20 yards this season . I onow Michigan is more of a run first offense but they dont trust JJ to throw in big time moments ! I dont see JJ having a good nfl career whatsoever. Ive never once seen michigan hand the keys to JJ to help them win a game. Its always the running backs and defesne that wins it for them just look at the national championship game he didnt even have to do anything
He has tons of velocity on his throws and absolutely can throw it deep if asked to, I have tons of other concerns about his game including the fact that Michigan didn’t ask him to do much at all but his arm talent is one of the things I am confident is NFL caliber
I agree. I hope other QB needy teams buy into the Drake Maye hype, and let Jayden Daniels fall to the NE Patriots. Jayden has the same size as Maye, but he has much better mobility and an even better arm.
I understand this is your opinion. But Caleb is the clear number 1. People trying to act like he’s not a generational talent all of a sudden. Drake Maye is good but he is the number two guy and that’s where he will go number 2. Nobody tried to do this to Trevor even though he didn’t make it to a national championship his last year in college. I feel like it’s always a race thing man. Caleb is the guy so face it and he’s a generational talent.
Daniels talent and season got wasted by this LSU defence. It's criminal what that defence did this year. If they were even average, LSU would be making a lot of noise
If we had just last year's average level defense, we would be in the SEC championship this weekend and definitely in the hunt for a playoff spot. It sucks how bad LSU's DB room/coaching was this year. Need a new DB coach/DC and for the love of all things football, put Harold Perkins JR where he belongs: edge rushing QBs into oblivion!
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The main stat is Decision and Anticipation. 90% of completions made are done before the snap.
Maybe if your Peyton Manning
I guarantee J.Daniels will be top 10 pick this guy is a game changing dual threat QB. He will be GREAT
Fully agree that he can get there, he has developed so much and I truly love what he’s done this year
Ouch, welp this sucks now. He just had the dak injury.
@@PortalOfKaden No he didn’t Jordan Travis had the injury not Daniels
@@biggie6181 wait really? How’d I mess that up lmao.
@@PortalOfKaden Yep look it up
I'll say the same thing about Penix that I said about stroud. Knocking a guy from not playing out of structure to me is crazy. He can do it but he doesn't do it alot because he'd rather kill you in the pocket. That's the way football is suposed to be played. The outside of structure stuff to me is a plus but only means something if accompanied by good pocket play. No Spencer Rattler is crazy to me but understandable. He's been pretty steady but his team has been up and down. From what I've heard some NFL scouts see him higher on their list than people think.
As a Bears fan, if they decide to move on from Fields, Penix is my guy. Pair him with Marvin Harrison Jr, DJ Moore, and an improved o-line and he will cook.
@@jroe25yt8as an eagles fan i just wanna know how the hell you plan on getting penix and mj
@@llkla4507 Bears will have a top 2 overall pick from Carolina, likely 1st, and their own pick will be top 10, likely top 5. Penix for now is projected to be a mid to late 1st rounder, so they could trade back their pick and draft MHJ with the Carolina pick. Penix could shoot up the draft boards or he could also fall to the 2nd if his medical don’t come back with good results. I believe in the kid though, especially if he has weapons like MHJ and Moore. Bears o-line is getting much better… a lot of injuries to start the season, they have gotten healthy.
Spot on.
@@llkla4507They can easily trade down and get Penix
And then you’re just wrong about Bo Nix. He has plenty of athleticism. He may even be 4.5 type of guy
Dude bo is him
Yeah Bo came out of HS as a dual threat QB.
I like jj MCcarthy for the giants
Bo nix is trash
As a Patriots fan I’d be happy w/ either Maye, Caleb or Daniels
Caleb has personality issues....he'll drop down in the draft...
i want daniels as pats fan!
@@OUtkast19782007 Daniels should be the next Lamar Jackson. He needs to add 15 lbs to his frame.
JJ MCcarthy for the Giants
@@RobertBellamy-ou6oz Dont forget Bo Nixon from Oregon.....👍
Daniels reminds me so much of Lamar when he came out. They both have crazy arm talent and stupid mobility but both could get away with not fully going through progressions and not anticipating throws. I feel like he could look like Lamar did in his rookie season but if he can develop a little bit as a drop back passer he will be a superstar.
I can definitely see that comparison, I agree much like Lamar when he was younger I think Daniels will need to learn to protect himself better and be more consistent with his full field progressions but the talent is there to have a Lamar Jackson like career for sure
I agree reminds me of lamar Jackson
@@ultimatescoutingCaleb Williams has won a Heisman while Drake has not, Caleb should be number one. Your argument that Caleb Williams has better talent around him is a wash and not a good point because Drake plays against worse opponents then Caleb Williams.
@@seanw3792Caleb Willimas has some personality issues that could hold him back some . Daniels is a cookie cutter of Lamar Jackson.....👍💪
shedeur's stock dropped while jayden's stock rose during the season ... what a contrast between them
Shedeur will start another year, he will be a top 10 pick in 25
Shedeur is still a guaranteed 1st round pick that’s obvious. He’s behind probably the worst O line
Carson Beck isn't just a game manager. He can sit in the pocket and throw and that's the main skillset you need to succeed in the NFL. Beck has an NFL arm and has improved as the season has gone on. Currently 9th in FBS for passing yards this season with a 72.2% completion rate.
Beck's ascension is making Georgia, once again, into an elite power.
Carson Beck is definitely a quality NFL prospect, I think he will be a good NFL QB
@@gsp3428jets need Carson beck to sit behind rogers
Lies
@@kilowolf6341 I know your mom lies. she was supposed to pay me by now.
This is a really well thought out objective analysis. Thank you
Thank you for watching, I appreciate it!
Great list, haven't seen 1 UNC game. Caleb Williams to me seems to be slipping, Daniels & Beck are rising fast. Seen last 3 games of Beck (all ranked teams) and his accuracy and where to go with the ball is impressive. Would love for Falcons to get Daniels in 1st round around pick 7-12 if there!
I've watched a few UNC games (coincidentally only the ones they lost...😅).
Drake Maye really seems to have regressed this year. He's making fundamental mistakes and errors in defensive reads that cost the team wins this season. It is a stark contrast to last year's mighty performance. I think it would do Drake Maye a lot of good to hold out for another year to polish his game before jumping to the draft. I worry he'll ruin his NFL career if he jumps to the NFL with the various issues he needs to clean up first. Most NFL teams don't seem as patient as they used to be about QB development, after all...
Nah Falcons won’t get Daniels, how we draft with Arthur smith if we get a QB they’ll get like Bo Nix. Im a LSU and Falcons fan. It would be a dream come thru if they got Daniels but they won’t. Plus they gonna have like a #18-20 pick
@nicholasrucker5697 I know they keep winning and if win division that pick will be where u said, they need to probably be 6-10 spot to get Daniels.
@@nicholasrucker5697 I can see Bo Nixon landing in Atlanta...👍
Caleb only issue is he has to do too much if the defense wasn't giving up 40 ppg he wouldn't have to worry about scoring every play, if his o line was good he wouldn't have to worry about running for his life while still trying to find a open wr so personally I would take Caleb #1 but Drake maye is really good and so is Daniels this might be the deepest QB class I've ever seen
So please explain to me why Nix gets punished for looking bad on a terrible team in Auburn and transferring, but Jayden Daniels transfers from UCLA after 3 years of interceptions, and he is not, Caleb Williams also transfered he didn't start as a rookie, has not beaten anyone, and every defense that has NFL level secondary EATS HIM UP. MAYE? What has he done? Stop grading QBs on potential and btw you CANNOT have a grade over 100 sorry, start over.
Nix isn’t punished at all for his time at Auburn, it’s simply an observation that he has come a long way (Like Daniels) to becoming a quality NFL draft prospect since he was really not very good at Auburn. Potential matters at QB, if you don’t have a top 10 QB, you probably are limiting your chances at winning a Super Bowl in the NFL. I don’t necessarily think Nix has potential to be a top 10 QB because of his lack of arm talent and true physical gifts which is why someone like Daniels is ranked over him. You can succeed in the NFL without those elite gifts (Brady, Burrow, Manning, etc) but the margin for error is just much smaller
brother shut up holy😭 you work at cvs ur not a nfl analyst😹😹
Important factors are coach and quarterback relationship, offensive Style and quarterback attributes. Bo Nix reminds me of Brock Purdy before Brock Purdy was discovered. He'll thrive in a zone read system
@@ultimatescouting Not sure where you think Nix has a lack of Arm Talent or athleticism. He has more rushing TDs than Daniels the last two seasons, and doubt his arm at your own risk, just watch his tape.
I couldn't agree more, Nix will exceed expectations, Williams will be a bust, overrated prima donna.
Sanders is the most underrated on your list. He’s IQ alone has him with a 1st rd game. Give him a OLine and watch him work.
I understand he just got injured but I’m surprised not to see Jordan Travis here
rattler
Not having Caleb Williams #1 in his own draft class when is widely regarded as on of the best QB prospects in the last decade is WILD… the recency bias is crazy lol
After seeing how he handles losing on national television was not a good look. He's looking soft.
@@BloodySoup74 People grow though. j/s.
@@MrWooWoo99 No doubt. I mean he's a great talent
I think he folds in every big game he has played in. That is a big problem going into the NFL. I think he is going to be a bust.
@@BloodySoup74 I'd move him higher on the draft board for that crying episode. This is a guy who CARES about winning. The public display part can be mentored out of him in the pros if needed.
Where do you think Penix Jr. would be in the QB Rankings if there was no injury history?
McCarthy will be the best pro of this group. He's only 20 years old. He'll probably stay in school and battle Sanders for #1 pick next year
I would love for him to stay in school maybe get a bit more opportunity to prove he can be the driving force for an elite offense. If he can show that and be less of a compliment to their elite running game he could certainly be an early pick in 2025
Several of these guys are returning to college, you should do an update after bowl season
I have to disagree on Beck slightly. I think he makes the right throw on 99% of dropbacks. He can read a defense he’s a great processor and understands what the defense is trying to do to him. I think scouts are really going to love Beck
No QB makes the right throw on 99% of their drop backs man, lol
Jayden Daniels is a monster!! While I might be in the minority I think Daniels is the best QB in this draft. He has that extra gear that could drive defensive coordinators crazy in the NFL. Best player in the draft and it's not even close.
Riley Leonard, Quinn Ewers, Carson Beck, and Shedeur Sanders are all staying in college.
Yeah obviously players returning to school will change things up
Going to say this , see if Jayden Daniels wins the Heisman if he does watch just watch the NFL draft also his combine he might be top 10 pick would not surprise me. This draft is the most loaded at QB we will have seen.
Great video🔥 I see that bengals stuff in the back, feel bad ab burrow, he was just starting to heat up
Thank you very much! Very tough break for my bengals but we just gotta get a nice draft pick, take Brock Bowers, and get after it next year hahaha
@@ultimatescouting Bengals just don't seem to value the TE spot that much right now. They'll probably draft an O-line in the 1st (since they'll need to fill potentially two spots there) or a DT replacement (if Reader doesn't return).
I could see them grab a Higgins replacement in LSU's Brian Thomas Jr who plays near identical to Higgins and could be grabbed early in the 2nd round most likely.
As a Bengals and LSU fan, I really wanna see the Bengals make the full run back to the super bowl!
I'm a NYGiants fan, so if we ever needed a QB and if ever there was a draft for it, IT's THIS YEAR. Thanks for giving me a lot to dissect here.
The 2024 nfl draft will be the greatest draft for great quarterbacks ever because there is a ton of talent and quality.
Is there a difference in Talent between West Coast teams vs East Coast teams?
I agree, Drake Maye will be insane in the nfl. Future patriot
Lets hope the Patriots get Maye
@@RobertLabonte-cw1bclmao no he wont
I think Jordan Travis can develop into a pretty nice starter, could be a great day 3 steal
Idk where hell land given his injury was “college career-ending” i hope the guy makes a full recovery
I Like JJ McCarthy be perfect for the Giants
@@RobertBellamy-ou6ozDaniel Jones 2.0
@@hardcoreboxingfan no he's not DJones 2.0
Caleb also has personality issues. He’s a I I I guy instead of being a team guy. For some reason people never bring up those issues about QBs. Being a good leader is a big deal and the guys all about themselves aren’t leaders
The most important attributes are
1. Decision making
1a. Going through Progressions
2. Accuracy
3. Arm talent
I personally prefer arm talent over accuracy because arm talent cannot be taught. Accuracy can be.
@@brandonryce6801 Yes and no. Much like arm talent, there's a level of accuracy that just can't be taught.
Look at the long standing QBs, like Kirk Cousins, Dak Prescott, and Geno Smith and the like. They've had years to be taught to improve their accuracy, but haven't done so. It doesn't matter how strong of an arm someone has if they keep throwing the ball to the opposing defense instead of their receivers.
@@xboxbam3979 well cousins doesn't have a strong arm lol. So there's that. Geno was a project QB that needed development but never truly was.
@@brandonryce6801 If you want a strong arm example, then Justin Herbert has seemingly gotten worse each and every year with his accuracy despite the booming arm.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Daniel Jones also have a strong arm? I know we never see it cause he's not accurate enough to sling it downfield without it getting intercepted, but I believe he did have that strong arm hype when he came in too if I am remembering correctly.
Probably the only success story of a strong arm over accuracy QB pick was Josh Allen by the Bills. Name another current starting strong arm QB whose accuracy improved over the seasons. Allen is the only currrent starter that comes to mind for me...
On another note, how often have strong arm QBs made it to the super bowl? Mahomes, Burrow, Stafford, Brady all didn't have strong arms, but good accuracy instead. I don't pay enough attention to the Eagles, does Hurts have a strong arm or no?
@@xboxbam3979 he did not lol. Just had hype as a good decision maker like Mac Jones. He was hyped because he was around the Mannings before the draft.
You nailed it I think! As a Commanders fan, I’m praying they don’t screw it up and pass on Maye. What he was able to do with very little talent around him was amazing!
Do you think teams will wait and draft Penix in the 4th rd becauseof all the question marks?
Probably not that late but I do think he slips out of round 1, probably taken somewhere in day 2
@ultimatescouting Thanks for responding. Also, I think Green Bay needs a qb, but they are sh!t out of luck this year.
I don't know Seattle likes Pennix Jr and Green Bay has Jordan Love he's good he needs a #1 wr and a young tight end but no #1
@@robertwilliams1592 Jordan Love sucks I don't know what you've been watching.
Great vid! Should do this for every position group
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How are some of these stats above 100%? Also GPAs can't be above 4.0.
Great video! Loved the different colors on the %'s, as someone who tries (and usually fails) to get into college football in preparation for the draft
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Good rundown. The one thing I question with Maye is his decision making though. Each game I’ve watched he was fortunate not to throw a couple of picks when trying to make something happen with nothing there. On the flip side, he can be pretty conservative a times. He really does remind me of Kirk Cousins with a little more comfortability running. He has that quiet mind in the pocket to pick you apart. He could really use a year or two behind a guy. Ironically, probably bets fit is behind Kirk Cousins 😂
Leonard over Ewers is absolutely crazy
Ewers is trash
I think Bo Nix might be the most underated prospect, I think he is certainly better than Drake Maye
I honestly agree with the Maye at 1 pick, I have the same top 5 with a slightly different 6-10 but havent fully evaluated those guys yet
Seeing Daniels being linked to the Vikings a lot recently. Would be a dynamic offense wow
Daniels with JJetta, Addison, and Hock would be a lot of fun!
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As a Vikings fan I would be all about that. But I think he will be one of the top 3 picks in the draft by the time all of the Pro Days and combine are over. Vikings only chance will be to trade up into the top 3.
Penix can throw the ball very accurately at long range but can he do it in the NFL, if so he will be a great pick.
I think the Patriots need Caleb they can always draft an OT later, it seems to always work out for them Cole Strange was a reach but he’s a consistent starter, Sidy Sow has been a gem, David Andrews is still a solid center, Mike Onwenu is still good, Trent is iffy but we can use a second or 3rd rounder to develop his replacement. And WRs I think are subpar but have potential we can always look to free agency and the second round for something good there. But Rn we need the best off-script and play is busted QB to be our QB because that situation happens often for us and Caleb’s ability to escape pressure and deliver accurate passes on the run is a need to start the offensive rebuild.
I don't think Caleb has a good career if he goes to any other team other than the patriots that coaching and systems is his best bet
After watching Michael Phenix last night, I hope the Patriots take him.
While I agree with everything you said I believe Maye fits our system better. But we are splitting hairs and I would be thrilled to get either one. Now we just gotta worry about teams trading up ahead of us
Nix had 500+ rushing yards and 14 rushing TDs last year.
You think his mobility is “adequate”?
With all the Shanahan offenses currently in the NFL. Nix's skillset is a system fit Matrimony. All the dinkin dunk throws and disguising Zone reads. The Vikes need him ASAP
Did people forget how bad nix was in the sec?
@@stevenhanson3185 he won freshman of the year and was Off Script a lot in Hughes offense. Not necessarily bad but with Dan Lanning he was more on schedule with the right Personnel around him. KOC and Justin Jefferson will make a trifecta out of him
Drake maye literally underthrows every single pass
i THOUGHT HE REGRESSED THIS YR AS WELL~
Just wondering what you like of DJU and if you think he’ll be drafted. I think he’ll go to like the Seahawks or lions in the 5-6th round
Can u do interior o lineman next? I have my eye on that guard from Kansas state :)
Fun watch. Looking forward to more
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Agree on jj I think people might be hyping him a little too high
Yeah I just don’t see a top 10 pick right now, he’s got the talent to get there but still has a lot to prove in my mind
@@ultimatescouting yeah I think the amazing Michigan run offense is masking some of his imperfections
Highest completion % in the NCAA and runs a 4.4 . Not drafting him over Maye or Williams but he 100% will go 1st rd on potential alone
@@RedEyePergo I don’t disagree at all that he will most likely be the 3rd QB off the board. I think NFL teams will see the potential and take the swing, I just don’t see that caliber of player myself (right now)
Caleb and Drake are all hype, JJ just threw for 60 yards in a game so no.
Not sure about your analysis… Did you watch the games these QBs played or just the highlights or from other people’s analysis…?
Drake Maye is a dream… Giants please tank, tank,TANK! Great video bro
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You are WAY off on JJ McCarthy- he is a LOCK to go in the first round- book it Dano:)
This is really well done, thorough analysis. My two cents based on just highlight vids and watching a handful of games is that Daniels has crazy stats this but seems to have benefited from a lot of clean pockets and YAC (though you could probably say that about a lot of them). Drake Maye’s highlights are sick and, perhaps more than any othe QB on the list he hits receivers in stride, which I think should be its own category in an analysis like this. As a not-used-to-sucking Patriots fan, I’d be thrilled with any of the top three, with a slight preference for Maye and Daniels over Williams, but I should watch some of his actual games to get a better sense. The big difference between Daniel’s and Lamar is that Daniel’s only started looking like this kind of player. Lamar looked like Lamar in high school, when his highlights looked like a video game.
Mate, are you worried Belichick will trade back for a safety that most people have mocked as a third rounder? Bill wants to be the only one responsible for success
Great video you know your stuff
Everyone thinks there an expert at least 6 out of 10 will fail so which will it be?
Giants fan here. Question: is Tee Higgins a legit number 1 option?
No
@@Lookylooky-vv2vm well damb.
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This year he hasn’t been, he’s been dealing with his own injuries and obviously Burrow’s as well. I’d say he’s a top 20 receiver in the NFL when everything is going well. Would easily be the WR1 on the giants in my opinion
@@ultimatescouting 🤔 hmm
@@StevenEvens7125 If Bengals tag and trade him this off season (seemingly becoming more and more a possibility), they'd likely want either a 1st round pick or early 2nd plus a 3rd round pick for him. There will definitely be a number of WR needy teams wanting him along with the Jags that are trying their hardest to bring the Clemson offense back together. It will be interesting on who would offer what for Higgins.
Excellent job. Not sure about Maye. Everytime I watch him he’s so unsure . Great arm, should stay another year.
He should stay another year for sure but he jas talent just got number one wonder what was up with that
Not UNC fan. But seen drake maye play. Could have gone pro last year. Good kid with family ties to UNC. With Not good cast of characters hw did well. Mobile, accurate, strong, great decision maker. Forget who plays for championship and who's hot or not. This guy, I hate to admit. Because I'm not UNC fan . Drake Maye is going to become franchise quarterback.
Jayden Daniels is a future Lamar and will be a good fit for the jets
Finally someone who is putting some respect to Jayden Daniels's name. Tired of seeing him rank 7 and below in everyones top 10....
Dude is just a monster
Love the content, just wanted to suggest something real quick. I think you’re too generous with some of the stats, particularly the 100% arm talent for Quinn Ewers. I think super high ratings work best when relative to other players and I just don’t see Ewers having a Josh Allen type of arm.
thats really good analysis on Caleb.
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Just found this channel, good work
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bo nix at 5 is horribe he should be 2
I love the Seahawks and I would absolutely love for the Seahawks to get Jayden Daniels, it's litterally too perfect but it's most likely out of our reach for how good he is.
Yeah that would be an ideal landing spot for him, I would love if they could make that happen
Most definitely let's go hawks
Props for making a prediction but man some of these takes are…interesting to say the least.
Very well done in my opinion.
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I have a tough decision in my home SF league. I have the 1.01, I love Drake Maye, MHJ, and Caleb. I do need a QB 2 behind Herbert on my rebuilder, I have two 1sts, 3 2nds, 1 3rd, and 2 4th. I still could go MHJ at the 1.01 if I can’t trade back, this will be a tough decision for sure.
Similar spot for me in my SF but have 3 1sts. Think ima take Caleb or MHJ at 1 and at 6 take Daniels or Nix or Odunze at 6 and BPA at 12
I just feel like unless u are dying at QB MHJ is a cant miss. Next jamar chase in my opinion
@@kriskomac044 I agree, I have Herbert, BY9, & Levis in my QB room. I also have the 1.04 and I could take Jayden Daniels there if I had too. I really love MHJ’s talent.
Yea I took over an orphaned team with Brady and Matty Ice who retired. So I had to trade Jefferson to get a QB and only have Doubs Oconnell, Hooker and Goff I just feel like I can still get a good starter at 1.06 and im in love with MHJ think he will be a top 5 guy for next 12+ yrs
@@kriskomac044 hopefully he comes out just read sportskeeda article about how he might comeback.
Drake Maye is tough, he can take a hit and give one and good speed, he'll be told to slide but he can run with the ball as well.
Caleb is what happens when you know you have to press because you have the worse defense in CFB. Even though I also have Maye as my QB1 and also am concerned about the fumbles I give him slack because I don’t think there’s a defense that far behind relatively in the NFL(as in compared to their peers.) Mahomes dealt with the same thing at TTU.
USC not having a defense isn't a negative for Caleb and his passing numbers. It means he has to throw more often. Caleb has highly skilled WRs to throw to. They're loaded across the board on offense. Caleb isn't a NFL QB though. He's the product of a college system. He doesn't have the ability to sit in the pocket and go through progressions and pick a defense apart. He's also a mental midget. Soft California kid who needs a safe space while the game is going on lol. NFL teams should pass on this bust.
Lol. Williams has some of the best eyes ever. Knows where every PLAYER not just wr is at all times. Eyes all over his head. And you're saying he can't go thru progressions. Lmao.
@@gregquinn5474 he's made a career of throwing on the run. he can't sit in the pocket and pick apart a defense. that's not what he does son. then he runs and cries in mommy's arm after a loss. curled up in his binky on his couch with his dog. don't forget to paint your nails. Caleb is a hot mess and I think he actually understands he won't be anything in the NFL.
@@broskibear9666I feel pretty much the same way about Williams. He could be great, maybe, but he’s not my guy.
@@broskibear9666 how uninformed are you thinking that Caleb Williams is from California. Mix in a clue
I think a good category to add, albeit harder to evaluate, is mental toughness.
Yeah so much of being a QB is the person, intangibles and leadership that traits you have which is very tough to evaluate for those that don’t get to speak with the players and meet with them like teams do. I agree that it is critically important but isn’t easy to quantify
Good analysis and as a Jets fan, boy do we need a QB for the future! We will end up somewhere between 8-12 in the draft. I would love to see us grab Jayden Daniels and get by with Free agents on the offensive line until next year. It is time to get a QB for the future. We need to admit that Zack Wilson is not the answer and a bust. Rogers is a legend but is 40 years old. If we could trade up to get Drake Maye that would be great too. Watching Caleb Williams, I am not sure that he is a generational talent but very good and a solid choice like Jalen Hurts.
Roger’s will come back and have a monster year or two just to prove everyone wrong. He’s that type of guy!
Jayden Daniels is QB1 in this class, and I think he might end up there come draft day.
2 Round maybe late first round pick
He’s not
Steelers will take him…..
I find it funny that the top 2 on most people's draft boards have not been performing particularly well this year. Caleb Williams has shown some Dak Prescott-like bad decision making on quite a few occasions that has directly cost the team wins.
Then there's Drake Maye that has been making mistakes at the fundamental level (that should have been taken care of in High School) and it has gotten reflected on the stats sheets and team win-loss record.
Personally, I think it would do Drake Maye a lot of good to hold off and take another year to develop as I feel he'll ruin his NFL career if the goes into the draft right now with the various issues he's shown across this season.
As for Caleb Williams... well, I just mentioned his comparable: Dak Prescott. I feel he's got that same trajectory about him. Could he make a super bowl run? Sure, as long as he's on a team that can compensate for the occasional boneheaded decisions from their QB. Cowboys haven't been able to accomplish that with Prescott as of yet.
For me, the top 4 should be
1. Daniels (the complete QB of this year)
2. Nix (the sneaky good QB of this year, like Herbert was)
3. Williams (the overall solid QB)
4. Penix Jr (the best traditional pure pocket QB)
(Left out Drake Maye as I think he should go another year, but would be QB5 on my list as things currently stand.)
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One thing I’d enjoy to see is some background music
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And who are you did you play quarterback in college or NFL.
I disagree with the order but I agree with the field of QB's. Well done video.
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Give me McCarthy or Bo Nix over any of these guys . Smart reads , no mistakes and good athletes and runners .
Most importantly they are both LEADERS and WINNERS !
If that's your criteria then why isn't Penix #1 on your list? He doesn't run enough?
@@coleeverman672just my preference , Penix is tough I like him too just didn’t put him down
Sam Hartman?
I like how you have them
Caleb Williams reminds of me Baker Mayfield... he does NOT have the arm strength that you guys are saying he does. He has an 8.5/10 arm strength. And maybe 8 arm talent. And worst, cant read defenses and makes bad decisions.
Bo Nix front runner for Heisman is number 5. lol Just Curious. Where did you have Justin Herbert?
He was my QB2 in that draft behind Burrow, loved him and wasn’t as high on Tua
I thought Quinn said he was staying another year
Big giants fan. We need so much I hope they can trade down for more picks and get daniels. Love the kid and hope he can put on a little more bulk
We need a line before thinking about a QB. What happened to Jones was criminal
I’m not a Giants fan but I am guessing that Oline is a bigger priority? Then draft a blue chip QB in 2025 who won’t get massacred weekly?
How is Jordan Travis not on here?
Really think that some of these Junior quarterbacks would benefit by staying in school for their senior year
When you said Caleb Williams was the best you ever seen that whole drake part became straight meat riding.
You gave JJ Mccarthy a 100% arm talent?? 😂😂 I havent seen him throw pass farther than 15-20 yards this season . I onow Michigan is more of a run first offense but they dont trust JJ to throw in big time moments ! I dont see JJ having a good nfl career whatsoever. Ive never once seen michigan hand the keys to JJ to help them win a game. Its always the running backs and defesne that wins it for them just look at the national championship game he didnt even have to do anything
He has tons of velocity on his throws and absolutely can throw it deep if asked to, I have tons of other concerns about his game including the fact that Michigan didn’t ask him to do much at all but his arm talent is one of the things I am confident is NFL caliber
Is it Just me , or does Drakes pass often fall short(.wrs turn back to the ball a lot) I don't see the super arm.
I agree. I hope other QB needy teams buy into the Drake Maye hype, and let Jayden Daniels fall to the NE Patriots. Jayden has the same size as Maye, but he has much better mobility and an even better arm.
I understand this is your opinion. But Caleb is the clear number 1. People trying to act like he’s not a generational talent all of a sudden. Drake Maye is good but he is the number two guy and that’s where he will go number 2. Nobody tried to do this to Trevor even though he didn’t make it to a national championship his last year in college. I feel like it’s always a race thing man. Caleb is the guy so face it and he’s a generational talent.
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My pics would be Daniels, Williams, panics, maye. Maye is over rated more like Mãc Jones for New England or Sam Howell for Washington
JJ McCarthy will go first round.
I agree, I think teams are gonna fall in love with his tools
What about Jordan Davis?
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Daniels talent and season got wasted by this LSU defence. It's criminal what that defence did this year. If they were even average, LSU would be making a lot of noise
You aren’t wrong, that offense is truly special
If we had just last year's average level defense, we would be in the SEC championship this weekend and definitely in the hunt for a playoff spot. It sucks how bad LSU's DB room/coaching was this year. Need a new DB coach/DC and for the love of all things football, put Harold Perkins JR where he belongs: edge rushing QBs into oblivion!
Commanders fan here I really want Daniels or Maye if we go with QB
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