Snatcher is the omitted game that's the deal breaker for me. Only one English version of that game and Sega didn't want to pony up the cash to Konami for it.
Yea, Snatcher would've definitely been awesome to have on there as well. I don't know if Kojima would've had to sign off it also. But any old school Kojima game would be incredible to get in a collection.
Them 2 games were the reason I cancelled my pre order. I wanted to play them games officially and was hopeful. Sadly Sega did not delivery so I will take my money elsewhere. The list is not bad on the mini 2. None of the games really stood out to me though. I was never really a sega genesis kid. I always wanted to try the Lunar games though.
@@gabegoforth This is a (relative) niche product with a limited production run and 60 games in total. Many of those 60 games are third party games, that had to be licensed. The two Lunar games are among those. In addition to the license from Game Arts for the Western release, Sega would have had to license the English translation from Victor Ireland. What do you think how much Sega can realistically pay for a thirty years old translation of a game on top of licensing that game (for the Western market) as well? Keep in mind, that production costs and logistics are very expensive right now. I can guarantee you, this is more of a passion project as Sega won't make much money from it. Plus, we are talking about a THIRTY years old TRANSLATION of a game, Victor Ireland doesn't have ANY rights to. So ANY offer is basically free money, as there probably won't be another opportunity for him to make money of that work. From what I've heard (though I don't know how credible the source is), Victor asked to get a cut for every unit sold on top of getting a fixed fee. Now, that is really unreasonable for a very limited product like this, especially since we are talking about the rights of an -again- TRANSLATION and not of the actual game.
cj_iwakura wrote, "So Victor Ireland himself reached out to me via DM after I tagged him about the Lunars on the Genesis mini. He said I can't quote him verbatim, but he said that, basically, Sega of Japan aren't offering enough money to make it worthwhile, since they only want to pay a flat fee to get as many games on there as possible without offering royalties, and they're confident it'll sell out anyway, so they're not eager to go overboard more than they have to. (Sadly, they're probably right.) Still, he said not to give up hope, so maybe there's chance. He also says the JP versions would be very labyrinthine for US players, and doesn't recommend them as a selling point. So yeah, uh, maybe telling Sega how much you want the US Lunars would be our best bet..." 3
The whole thing feels like a half measure. You can order it from Amazon US, but it is actually sold and shipped from Amazon JP. It reminds me of the TG16 mini. A great mini console, but once that was sold out, it hasn’t seen much in the way of restocks. If you haven’t ordered yet, you might end up paying triple later. It’s to be expected. People wanted a saturn or dreamcast mini, and we got this instead. I’m not really surprised that sega didn’t go out of their way to license the english translations of Lunar 1 or 2, but missing the opportunity to put Snatcher on there hurts.
First I agree with everything you said especially around the buzz it could of generated....but as one of those kids lucky enough to have a Sega CD and even luckier to have had both of the Lunars...the OG Sega CD versions are far superior to the kiddie, less mature, watered down/simplified dissapointing PSX Remakes, especially Silver Star. I did like all those Working Designs Complete free extras though. Eternal Blue Sega CD was the best the games ever looked and sounded from the battle/spell animations, spritework, sound/battle effects, actual overworld exploration with secrets etc, music etc etc
If Hakchi2 CE works on the first Genesis Mini...it'll work on this one. P.S. The reason there was no TG-16 mini hack was because it doesn't have a dedicated "reset" button so it can be booted up in FEL (or Safe) Mode...which the Genesis Mini 2 will have.
It's funny as it took 3 months for the original MD mini to get hacked. FYIthe teams behind Hakchi and Lunar have expressed no interest to hack this system so don't hold your breath.
I am truly disappointed that Popful Mail and the Disney-licensed games aren't on the Sega Genesis Mini 2. But hey, at least they have quite a few Sonic games on it (including one of my favorites, Sonic CD).
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Snatcher is the omitted game that's the deal breaker for me. Only one English version of that game and Sega didn't want to pony up the cash to Konami for it.
Yea, Snatcher would've definitely been awesome to have on there as well. I don't know if Kojima would've had to sign off it also. But any old school Kojima game would be incredible to get in a collection.
It was in thr PC Engine mini put out by Konami. Konami may not have wanted to get out.
Maybe it was because thier was only an English version of Snatchers for the Sega CD. It was never released in Japan.
@@gabegoforth Knowing Konami they probably lost every piece of code related to Snatcher.
@@quesocoatl21 yea, it wouldn't have surprised me if that was the case.
Them 2 games were the reason I cancelled my pre order. I wanted to play them games officially and was hopeful. Sadly Sega did not delivery so I will take my money elsewhere. The list is not bad on the mini 2. None of the games really stood out to me though. I was never really a sega genesis kid. I always wanted to try the Lunar games though.
5000 people did same
Both Lunar games, Popful Mail, AND Snatcher...but Hakchi will fix everything.
Sadly, Snatcher was unable to be included on the Mini 2, as many people had long desire for it.
Seems that working designs asked for too much money. Or rather SEGA was too cheap.
Yea its a shame, most likely it was the latter. Learned through the years that when given the chance to Sega...Sega is definitely gonna Sega.
@@gabegoforth This is a (relative) niche product with a limited production run and 60 games in total. Many of those 60 games are third party games, that had to be licensed. The two Lunar games are among those. In addition to the license from Game Arts for the Western release, Sega would have had to license the English translation from Victor Ireland. What do you think how much Sega can realistically pay for a thirty years old translation of a game on top of licensing that game (for the Western market) as well? Keep in mind, that production costs and logistics are very expensive right now. I can guarantee you, this is more of a passion project as Sega won't make much money from it. Plus, we are talking about a THIRTY years old TRANSLATION of a game, Victor Ireland doesn't have ANY rights to. So ANY offer is basically free money, as there probably won't be another opportunity for him to make money of that work. From what I've heard (though I don't know how credible the source is), Victor asked to get a cut for every unit sold on top of getting a fixed fee. Now, that is really unreasonable for a very limited product like this, especially since we are talking about the rights of an -again- TRANSLATION and not of the actual game.
@@Scamander thanks for the well written comment, I wasn't aware of the difficulty in the translation process, or of Ireland. Thanks for the info!
cj_iwakura wrote, "So Victor Ireland himself reached out to me via DM after I tagged him about the Lunars on the Genesis mini.
He said I can't quote him verbatim, but he said that, basically, Sega of Japan aren't offering enough money to make it worthwhile, since they only want to pay a flat fee to get as many games on there as possible without offering royalties, and they're confident it'll sell out anyway, so they're not eager to go overboard more than they have to. (Sadly, they're probably right.)
Still, he said not to give up hope, so maybe there's chance. He also says the JP versions would be very labyrinthine for US players, and doesn't recommend them as a selling point. So yeah, uh, maybe telling Sega how much you want the US Lunars would be our best bet..."
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@@darylmodjeski698 that's crazy that he actually got back to you on that! And really awesome that he opened up about it. Thanks for sharing!
The whole thing feels like a half measure. You can order it from Amazon US, but it is actually sold and shipped from Amazon JP. It reminds me of the TG16 mini. A great mini console, but once that was sold out, it hasn’t seen much in the way of restocks. If you haven’t ordered yet, you might end up paying triple later.
It’s to be expected. People wanted a saturn or dreamcast mini, and we got this instead. I’m not really surprised that sega didn’t go out of their way to license the english translations of Lunar 1 or 2, but missing the opportunity to put Snatcher on there hurts.
First I agree with everything you said especially around the buzz it could of generated....but as one of those kids lucky enough to have a Sega CD and even luckier to have had both of the Lunars...the OG Sega CD versions are far superior to the kiddie, less mature, watered down/simplified dissapointing PSX Remakes, especially Silver Star. I did like all those Working Designs Complete free extras though. Eternal Blue Sega CD was the best the games ever looked and sounded from the battle/spell animations, spritework, sound/battle effects, actual overworld exploration with secrets etc, music etc etc
You kids realize you can just ADD SNATCHER, right?
How it might not be hacked like tg16 mini and casuals don't hack
@VaughnJogVlog Well, you’re not wrong. Same thing applies to Lunar 1 & 2 and Popful Mail.
Ok add English snatcher to tg16 mini then...oh that's right it can't be hacked
If Hakchi2 CE works on the first Genesis Mini...it'll work on this one.
P.S. The reason there was no TG-16 mini hack was because it doesn't have a dedicated "reset" button so it can be booted up in FEL (or Safe) Mode...which the Genesis Mini 2 will have.
It will be hacked within a day or 2 so stop winging you'll be able to put them all on it.
"winging"? 😂
It's funny as it took 3 months for the original MD mini to get hacked. FYIthe teams behind Hakchi and Lunar have expressed no interest to hack this system so don't hold your breath.
@@VirajKathwadia of course it will be hacked..stop being a narcissistic prick
I think he meant "whinging"...and he's also right.
I am truly disappointed that Popful Mail and the Disney-licensed games aren't on the Sega Genesis Mini 2. But hey, at least they have quite a few Sonic games on it (including one of my favorites, Sonic CD).
They didn't give us Burning Force, but at least they have some games in the Genesis Mini 2 that I like
Only reason I passed was no Lunar1 & 2 and Popful mail.. Shame
Yeah no Snatchers, Lunar or Popful Mail. WTH, SEGA?! Still a good game line up but the CD games.....really? c'mon.
Lots of taito but not a single Konami game
CUT THE HISTORY LESSON AND GET TO THE POINT
I don't blame Sega I play Victor Ireland. Meh it's not that big a deal imo it's only RPG lovers that will get vexed.