Talking about whether Lordaeron could ever be restored and what is the future of Undercity after BFA. If you guys haven't checked out the second channel yet, you can do so by clicking here. bit.ly/SecondChannelDoron
Olle Fjällström nobody uses them though. Why would any alliance travel to Gilneas when there are boats, portals, hearthstones to stormwind and it has everything. I want new capitals too, but the rate at blizzard makes content these days... I’d rather have something to do than a revamped city.
@@Foster_The_Wild it was a nice strategy from their part, starting with transmog they started to put everything in those so called capitals and, surprise surprise, after a few years nobody is using the other cities without the new services so they can literally destroy them
I think the idea of Lordaeron maybe becoming some sort of neutral capital for both living and undead might work. Alliance vs Horde is over, and seeying that Western and Eastern Plaguelands are held by Argent Crusade (and hopefully their restoration continues) turning Lordaeron into a central hub for Alliance/Horde and possibly Argents could kind of restore it's original role, as it once was the "main" part of the Alliance, now it could be the main part of Azerothian kingdoms or whatever.
Thats exactly what I was going to suggest! Have a cleaned-up overcity be a hub with the new xpack coming out. It would make sense with Calias standing. We could go back in time like other zones (have 3 times instead of past and present). All of the races capitals have been severely neglected with an exception of Darnassus and Undercity, and obviously the Stormwind and Orgrimmar. It would be nice if they brought back some kind of importance to them.
I agree but if Lordaeron will be rebuilded I think we will see a new architecture in the mood of calia light link. I think we will have new skins for the forsakens because a part of them will maybe choose to be redempted and will be more human like appearence, but some too will still be loyal to the banshee and stay as they are now at the difference that they will leave the Horde but forsakens actual skin and redempted will be avalaible in the horde. Or redempted forsakens will be a neutral new race. They will maybe be named as the redempted or the lightforgived ^^.the return of lordaeron with calia will sure accelerate the heal of the ancient kingdom and maybe the return of the worgens at gilneas. gilnean's people lost their city and kingdom since cataclysm so they can now reclaim it and the night elves will go in Hyjal. I think Lordaeron will be a symbol of peace between the 2 factions, a big diplomatic city and it will be accessible by all the players of the game. this will be exclusive in the game and in the whole warcraft history because since we have just cooperate in a tier neutral city like dalaran or shattrath but if lordaeron became a capital for both that will change everything. Imagine the same sellers, AH and banks for all the communauty, a horde player sells an item at AH and a alliance player buying it. Or imagine that the warmode disabled will become a pve mode with advantage into dungeons and raid and permit us to make teams with both factions, using commons channels and guilds, removing the language racial wall between them.
The lore keep them low on number but on lore game they have important powers to the horde not to low in numbers the lore actually is a shit look what they do to Saurfang
Silvermoon CAN'T be rebuilt. The dead scar is tainted land and it is irreversible. Apprentice Mirveda researched the soil of the Dead Scar and it is destroyed for all eternity. The alternative is to move to the Outlands (like they started) or re-establish a home elsewhere on the continent.
@@holczy0 Yeah.. and the Scourge is still there it makes no sense. I want to see Eastern Kingdoms either to its former glory or well established by its new inhabitants.
Calia becomes a new leader of the forsaken, gilneas becomes a new human kingdom. So the horde still has presence in northern part of eastern kingdom (aside of silvermoon) but also lose some territory to the alliance.
Honestly what I hope they do is in a later expansion just do a restore on much of the factions capitals, have Lordaeron capital city rebuilt and like the comment below says have it be a central neural hub like Dalaran and have under city restored, with help from Jaina and maybe the Argent dawn and Kirin Tor to clear out the plague like at the battle of Lordaeron, have Gilneas finally restored and brought in for the alliance and the Worgen cause who doesn’t love a cool Victorian gothic city, have Darnassus regrow with the help of the Cenarian circle and give it a graphical overhaul so it has an actual use, and give us flying for silver moon and the ghost lands so it’s more used. IF THEY HEALED THE VALLEY OF ETERNAL BLOSSOMS AND THE EASTERN PLAGUE LANDS, THEN THEY CAN DO ALL OF THIS. and since it’s already confirmed the alliance won both the battle for stromgrade and darkshore.
I pretty much agree,but how can you call this an Alliance victory? The battle of Lordaeron was more like a defeat for the Alliance and a pyrrhic victory for the Horde. Same with the war itself. Alliance lost far more than the Horde and it even didn't defeat Sylvanas or the Horde militarily
What was the war over? Undercity. Are the Horde able to live there? NO! The Horde lost then. They lost one of their capital cities. The Alliance didn't plan on moving into Lordaeron so it wasn't a loss for the Alliance. The war was gauged by who got what they were fighting for. Look at World War II. Does it count that Germany killed way more opposition than everyone else collectively on a global scale? No. Germany lost control of the outposts and land that they occupied. So the Germans lost the war. It doesn't go by lost casualty count.
@@stepanpytlik4021 fiction based on fact. It's called World of WARCRAFT. War is the same there as it is in our world, therefore, the same rules of victory apply.
@@malifor00 The Horde wasn't defeated. An armistice was signed. And in reality, Alliance suffered FAR MORE than the Horde. If the Alliance defeated the Horde militaraly then it would be an Alliance victory. But that didn't happen. Horde just had a change in leadership and armistice was then signed
@@stepanpytlik4021 I've come to terms with the alliance just being extras in the Horde story. Lore-wise Alliance has some of the most powerful beings on Azeroth and what do we do with them? Staying nicley out of the way for the glorious Horde. We're just there to forget and forgive the Horde for their shenanigans. Part of me wishes, that the faction barriers will fall and the playerbase gets just one shitty story, but with more characters to act in than just the Horde.
Well what they can do is do what's in classic. Spread shit out. Weapons trainers in different cities. Profession trainers in different cities. Make it so players need to travel to gilneas or lordaeron to learn and lvl up. Stop making everything a one stop shop in stormwind or ogrimar
Lordaeron will be focus of human campaign in Warcraft 4, you’ll control the last living menethil “carlia’s daughter” in reclaiming her ancestral home, she will be the binding force that the remnants of her people will gather behind
the history of the name for Lordaeron is false, (unless blizz retconed it) "The name Lordaeron comes from the three main Alliance race languages: "lorn" (in Dwarven) that means "land", "daer" (in Common) that means "people" and "ronae" (in Thalassian) that means peaceful." this comes from wowwiki.fandom.com/wiki/Lordaeron#cite_note-2 whom they say got it from the book Lands of Conflict.
I'm more insterested in when the nelves are getting a new capital, tbh. But since the undead have "human potential" now, they are going to play the first fiddle.
@@SilverTheTrinity Goblins have a small "city" in Aszuna in the bay, as well as ratchet and booty bay. Gnomes dont have anything like that and they need one for sure. Though, it would be nice if all the small cities and even main ones such as the Exodar or Silvermoon could be important again.
I still think the next expac will be death themed, such as Shadowlands. Like others have said Lorderon may be the next neutral hub, or at least where the expac starts. Sylvanas seeming to be aligning with the old God which may be the main plot going in
Hopefully after shadowlands bilzz updates the whole of azeroth: eastern, kalimdor, northrend, and pandaria. Nothing major just giving the old zones some love and updating the racial capitals (and adding one for the pandaren). Plus hopefully restoring the northern half of the eastern kingdoms (the part decimated by the scourge) to it's former glory or a part of it.
Ali and Horde could simply do a agreement, Aliance would have Eastern Kingdoms and Horde would have Kalimdore, Blood Elves and Drenei but must in that case switch lands. Undeads could repopulate Dalaran, Nigh Elves took large portions of Plaguelands into forests. But this is only logical storytelling that culd develope factions, its not a Bilizard way of thinking.
Calia would never be accepted by the Forsaken, she's an outsider. The Forsaken name literally is in reference to being abandoned by the light, so would it really make sense or be fair to put an Alliance sympathizing, light-wielding priestess in charge? I don't think so, plus most forsaken of the original Lordaeron bunch would have long moved on at this point, they have been Forsaken and their lives in undeath are separate from the ones the lead living. Not even mentioning how many Forsaken are still loyal to Sylvanas, Calia just wouldn't make sense.
If Lordaeron falls SIlvermoon will break off from the horde. They'll become neutral and very likely start drifting back towards the alliance. They've been members in the past and they are already the least loyal part of the horde.
I honestly think after shadowlands with a potential time jump, we’ll see a lot of zones reclaimed and put to use again ie cleansing of the eastern plague lands, rebuilding and resettling of gilneas, teldrassil, and the perhaps even upper lordaeron as a neutral hub ruled by Calia Menethil, like that of dalaran and oribos, ect, with undercity being horde exclusive.
I really want to see this become a Alliance RP hub on AD, or neutral to a an extent, but I think it's time we survivors of the third war took back our homeland!
@@oydjayvagr3762 It is a fun bit of the lore so can see it from both sides. I think with the new leader of the forsaken and possibility for the end of the factions as we know it we could see both coexist there.
Hope so.. It used to be my favorite capital.. But hopefully Silvermoon and nearby zones will recieve a major upgrade.. I hope we’ll get some serious Troll news soon, with Talanji and the Zandalar with the Horde I hope too see the reuiniting of Troll-kin
The forsaken, we need a proper leader, a king, someone to look up to, and not because he would have boobs. We need someone who can rebuild lordaeron and reunite the forsaken, we could have a new rep put of that, some new mounts.
As soon as ALL Nightelves completed their class quests in Teldrassil they always did the long trek to Stormwind via Menethil Harbor anyways. I went through at least 12 night elf characters since 2003 (beta) and I never saw more than two or three other N.E. players in Darnassus while I was there. Let alone in Teldrassil. Undercity was heavily under-populated too.
They will I hope so , that's make me think why blizzard still not updated silvermoon , if you look allinace side Jaina killed blood elvs and high elvs in dalaran she don't trust them at all , if look at Alleria from highelvs become void elvs , most highelvs killed or corrupted when they join allinace, so the future high elvs belong the Horde not allinace
I don't imagine they will update the Undercity or Teldrassil until a complete world revamp, probably at the level squish and the completion of this Old God and upcoming faction story with Sylvanas, Genn and Tyrande. Players up to level 110ish see the functioning cities before their BFA destructions. I'd like to see the Undercity rebuilt and Teldrassil recover and be blessed. Both cities returned to full functionality with an updated and consistent level 1- max Azeroth.
Arthus...corrupted...ha...Tricked into using a blade that would take his soul as one of it's...many...victims...but...only those that have...experience Warcraft 3...know this...
Imagine if they made each zone a hub for it's own gear, material, story, quests ect. that keep up with the time, instead of coming up with a new map every expansion. The game would be so amazing you can pepper in new zones but use what you have instead of making them obsolete.
I imagine most of Stormwind's current population is from Lordaeron or Lordaeron ancestry at this point too. Not just from 3rd War refugees but the people who repopulated the Kingdom after the Second War. Most of Stormwind's original population was wiped out in the First War.
Well, there are some things to consider. I for one would love to see an evolution of the zone. Have the undeed from the Forsaken redeemed and let them have their land in a new architecture. Not just ruins, but more alive. While it is true they died, they never left. Lordaeron citizens deserve some love, and it may be good time they become something new and not just a shadow of what they used to be. I do hope so see an evolution on this for undead players and their new place. As for the continent. All around the plaguelands could take a huge effort to heal the land. Maybe a combination of the Cenarion Circle and the Argent Crusade. Or maybe the plaguelands may remain as unique type of environment with their own strengths and resources. One thing for sure is that I would love to see Stratholme recovered. That place could be a neutral ground for living and undead. Lordaeron Capital City may be in dispute, but Stratholme was a great place to finally clear from fire and undead.
I mean, with calia possibly taking lead of the forsaken, it paints the idea of, because of her close bond with alliance leaders, of her getting the forsaken to follow her ideal and make them make peace with their human brethrens. Of course how the forsaken would react to that remains to be see, but I can already tell how pissed off the forsaken fanbase will be about it.
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Blood elves are not high elves. High elves are still part of the alliance under Silver convenant. Blood elves suck fel magic and are with Horde. There is a BIG difference
@@karelhemala5699 nah they are the same also they don't even do fel magic anymore. The sunwell happened years ago and canonicaly they are powered by a narus light magic like the light forge dranie. Is why you got yellow eye options for them now.
@@JasonBoreu there is a grand total of what 30 uncorupted high elfs the rest are either blood elfs for the horde or void elfs for alliance. You are never gonna get another reskinned blood elf model.
Haven't watched the vid yet, but the fey dance in the western forests of tirisfal glade accessible only by flight hints to an old god beneath the zone. I see the future of the zone is a max level phase including a raid beneath the earth.
In the latest datamined dialogues for the new patch. Night elve sentinels are on the hunt for sylvanas where about and the population of nighelves are migrating to Nordassil the first world tree that was restore by the green dragons
My theory is they will rebuild, but just use the upper half with Calia in the Throne room. She'll say something cheesy about not needing to live in darkness.
I can see the new Queen of the Forsaken making terms with Greymane in exchange for allowing the Foraken to rebuild, they could return to Gilneas. All the while the remnants of the Scarlet Crusade and Sylvanas Loyalist making a right mess of things for both parties.
@First Captain Valerius Rensorfen Aren’t they, indeed. Some are canon still in Northrend, but with the Lich King’s return to center stage, it wouldn’t be a stretch to see the Scarlet Onslaught Remnants return to take advantage of chaos.
@Bleeding Eye Watcher They would be the closest to Lorderon, and had conquered it before Sylvanas destroyed it. Both Lorderon and Gilneas suffer because Sylvanas used the blight, and its effects still lingers. Just saying.
In the beginning of BFA I had the theory that Night Elf Druids could restore the lands of Tirisfal Glades, and make Lordaeron habitable again, and in extent make that their new starting zone since Teldrassil was burnt down, but since the Alliance were the de facto winners of BFA and they were able to retake Darkshore, it no longer make sense that the Night Elfs would do anything that could risk them losing the northern parts of Kalimdor, i.e. relocating would be pointless.
To be honest, I play WoW just because of Forsaken and their story. I don't know why, but it seems like it has deepest roots in the whole Warcraft games. I really, really hope Activision-Blizzard will give them some love and tell us more about story of, again, abandoned nation...
How so? I covered the history of Lordaeron, the current events, the position of the Alliance and the Horde in regards to Lordaeron and what are the possibilities with the story after BFA.
Talking about whether Lordaeron could ever be restored and what is the future of Undercity after BFA. If you guys haven't checked out the second channel yet, you can do so by clicking here. bit.ly/SecondChannelDoron
Undercitys throne room always gives me Warcraft III nostalgia. What a great game.
Aye, hoping for Reforged news soon
@@Ragnarok6664 you've got your news...
Bright Baelfire Hah true, looks bleak from a media/business standpoint. Prefer the face-lift to the original but..
@@Ragnarok6664 agreed...
Will Hong Kong ever be restored though? Not on Blizzard's watch
I hope China fucks HK up & kills everyone there just so you mamby pamby limp wristed morons will cry moar
@@nunyabusiness245 Whoa there, don't cut yourself on that edge.
Nunya Business calm down there edgelord
@@nunyabusiness245 lol wtf?
Restored to what? British ocupation?
They never conquered undercity: the plague made it impossible.
Make Lordaeron Great Again
Make Lordaeron Alliance again
@Sacred Squadron Lordaeron will be reclaimed, for The Alliance
I really hope they will rebuild Gilneas. Its too beautiful to be abandoned
And huge, more social/city hubs cant be a bad thing right?
Olle Fjällström nobody uses them though. Why would any alliance travel to Gilneas when there are boats, portals, hearthstones to stormwind and it has everything.
I want new capitals too, but the rate at blizzard makes content these days... I’d rather have something to do than a revamped city.
@@Foster_The_Wild it was a nice strategy from their part, starting with transmog they started to put everything in those so called capitals and, surprise surprise, after a few years nobody is using the other cities without the new services so they can literally destroy them
@@oydjayvagr3762 Yeah :( sad
It's literally a wasted zone
I think the idea of Lordaeron maybe becoming some sort of neutral capital for both living and undead might work. Alliance vs Horde is over, and seeying that Western and Eastern Plaguelands are held by Argent Crusade (and hopefully their restoration continues) turning Lordaeron into a central hub for Alliance/Horde and possibly Argents could kind of restore it's original role, as it once was the "main" part of the Alliance, now it could be the main part of Azerothian kingdoms or whatever.
That is an interesting idea and could make sense. It could become sort of a hub like Dalaran.
Makes sense to put Calia Menethil in charge me thinks if this is the route we are going.
Thats exactly what I was going to suggest! Have a cleaned-up overcity be a hub with the new xpack coming out. It would make sense with Calias standing. We could go back in time like other zones (have 3 times instead of past and present). All of the races capitals have been severely neglected with an exception of Darnassus and Undercity, and obviously the Stormwind and Orgrimmar. It would be nice if they brought back some kind of importance to them.
I agree but if Lordaeron will be rebuilded I think we will see a new architecture in the mood of calia light link. I think we will have new skins for the forsakens because a part of them will maybe choose to be redempted and will be more human like appearence, but some too will still be loyal to the banshee and stay as they are now at the difference that they will leave the Horde but forsakens actual skin and redempted will be avalaible in the horde. Or redempted forsakens will be a neutral new race. They will maybe be named as the redempted or the lightforgived ^^.the return of lordaeron with calia will sure accelerate the heal of the ancient kingdom and maybe the return of the worgens at gilneas. gilnean's people lost their city and kingdom since cataclysm so they can now reclaim it and the night elves will go in Hyjal. I think Lordaeron will be a symbol of peace between the 2 factions, a big diplomatic city and it will be accessible by all the players of the game. this will be exclusive in the game and in the whole warcraft history because since we have just cooperate in a tier neutral city like dalaran or shattrath but if lordaeron became a capital for both that will change everything. Imagine the same sellers, AH and banks for all the communauty, a horde player sells an item at AH and a alliance player buying it. Or imagine that the warmode disabled will become a pve mode with advantage into dungeons and raid and permit us to make teams with both factions, using commons channels and guilds, removing the language racial wall between them.
That's not a bad idea but what about the forsaken?
*Cries in gilnean*
purple dragon of honor one day..... one day
Silvermoon still haven’t no rebuilding
The lore keep them low on number but on lore game they have important powers to the horde not to low in numbers the lore actually is a shit look what they do to Saurfang
Lorewise Silvermoon has been entirely rebuilt :) but Blizzard is too lazy to implement that in game.
Silvermoon CAN'T be rebuilt. The dead scar is tainted land and it is irreversible. Apprentice Mirveda researched the soil of the Dead Scar and it is destroyed for all eternity. The alternative is to move to the Outlands (like they started) or re-establish a home elsewhere on the continent.
The destroyed part has been rebuilt, I'm 100% sure that's official lore
@Sightless_Seeker Elves use slaves for their labor, mostly leper gnomes and captives.
I think Northern Eastern Kingdoms needs a big big update.
definetly, literally everyone is dead
@@holczy0 Yeah.. and the Scourge is still there it makes no sense. I want to see Eastern Kingdoms either to its former glory or well established by its new inhabitants.
Everything needs a big update. They could have already been doing it but now they’re just seeming to push it off until they’re ready to make a wow 2
I'd really like to see the Lordaeron capital rebuilt. This city must've looked great back in it's former state
Honestly im expecting a big revamp of the entire world soon
Hope so
Hopefully not a huge change like they did in Cataclysm but maybe bringing all the races' capital cities back to importance rather than just SW or Org
From what I heard. Calia Menethil is going to take over for Sylvanas, and represent the Forsaken in the new Council that is forming.
Calia becomes a new leader of the forsaken, gilneas becomes a new human kingdom. So the horde still has presence in northern part of eastern kingdom (aside of silvermoon) but also lose some territory to the alliance.
@Joshua Shank aaahhh just like garrosh... You're the follower of the true forsaken
The True Horde will rise again! Orcs only!
@Joshua Shank forsaken should be forsaker.
@@fumarc4501 Cool, give us back the Blood Elves, we keep a spot open for them at all times
Honestly what I hope they do is in a later expansion just do a restore on much of the factions capitals, have Lordaeron capital city rebuilt and like the comment below says have it be a central neural hub like Dalaran and have under city restored, with help from Jaina and maybe the Argent dawn and Kirin Tor to clear out the plague like at the battle of Lordaeron, have Gilneas finally restored and brought in for the alliance and the Worgen cause who doesn’t love a cool Victorian gothic city, have Darnassus regrow with the help of the Cenarian circle and give it a graphical overhaul so it has an actual use, and give us flying for silver moon and the ghost lands so it’s more used. IF THEY HEALED THE VALLEY OF ETERNAL BLOSSOMS AND THE EASTERN PLAGUE LANDS, THEN THEY CAN DO ALL OF THIS. and since it’s already confirmed the alliance won both the battle for stromgrade and darkshore.
I pretty much agree,but how can you call this an Alliance victory? The battle of Lordaeron was more like a defeat for the Alliance and a pyrrhic victory for the Horde. Same with the war itself. Alliance lost far more than the Horde and it even didn't defeat Sylvanas or the Horde militarily
What was the war over? Undercity. Are the Horde able to live there? NO! The Horde lost then. They lost one of their capital cities. The Alliance didn't plan on moving into Lordaeron so it wasn't a loss for the Alliance. The war was gauged by who got what they were fighting for.
Look at World War II. Does it count that Germany killed way more opposition than everyone else collectively on a global scale? No. Germany lost control of the outposts and land that they occupied. So the Germans lost the war. It doesn't go by lost casualty count.
@@asmongoldsmouth9839 Lol. You truly compare a an unrealistic fiction with reality? And yes, just keep ignoring Teldrasill
@@stepanpytlik4021 fiction based on fact. It's called World of WARCRAFT. War is the same there as it is in our world, therefore, the same rules of victory apply.
@@malifor00 The Horde wasn't defeated. An armistice was signed. And in reality, Alliance suffered FAR MORE than the Horde. If the Alliance defeated the Horde militaraly then it would be an Alliance victory. But that didn't happen. Horde just had a change in leadership and armistice was then signed
@@stepanpytlik4021 I've come to terms with the alliance just being extras in the Horde story. Lore-wise Alliance has some of the most powerful beings on Azeroth and what do we do with them? Staying nicley out of the way for the glorious Horde. We're just there to forget and forgive the Horde for their shenanigans.
Part of me wishes, that the faction barriers will fall and the playerbase gets just one shitty story, but with more characters to act in than just the Horde.
Well what they can do is do what's in classic. Spread shit out. Weapons trainers in different cities.
Profession trainers in different cities.
Make it so players need to travel to gilneas or lordaeron to learn and lvl up.
Stop making everything a one stop shop in stormwind or ogrimar
I want Gilneas back :c
Lordaeron will be focus of human campaign in Warcraft 4, you’ll control the last living menethil “carlia’s daughter” in reclaiming her ancestral home, she will be the binding force that the remnants of her people will gather behind
I think Arthas sister will join the horde and rule over Undercity and the nightelves move to Gilneas.
Nah. Pretty sure the nightelves going to hyal
Lorderon is for the alliance
the history of the name for Lordaeron is false, (unless blizz retconed it) "The name Lordaeron comes from the three main Alliance race languages: "lorn" (in Dwarven) that means "land", "daer" (in Common) that means "people" and "ronae" (in Thalassian) that means peaceful." this comes from wowwiki.fandom.com/wiki/Lordaeron#cite_note-2 whom they say got it from the book Lands of Conflict.
I'm more insterested in when the nelves are getting a new capital, tbh. But since the undead have "human potential" now, they are going to play the first fiddle.
I think it's time for some other races who don't have a capital to have their turn at having their own capital city. Like the Goblins and Gnomes.
@@SilverTheTrinity Goblins have a small "city" in Aszuna in the bay, as well as ratchet and booty bay. Gnomes dont have anything like that and they need one for sure. Though, it would be nice if all the small cities and even main ones such as the Exodar or Silvermoon could be important again.
I still think the next expac will be death themed, such as Shadowlands. Like others have said Lorderon may be the next neutral hub, or at least where the expac starts. Sylvanas seeming to be aligning with the old God which may be the main plot going in
Plot twist:Arthas will return to bring back lordaeron back to his former glory
He's kinda dead but oh well
For king arthas!
@@lynxerz no one is ever really dead in warcraft.
Hes truly dead and suffering for eternity in the Maw lol
Hopefully after shadowlands bilzz updates the whole of azeroth: eastern, kalimdor, northrend, and pandaria. Nothing major just giving the old zones some love and updating the racial capitals (and adding one for the pandaren). Plus hopefully restoring the northern half of the eastern kingdoms (the part decimated by the scourge) to it's former glory or a part of it.
Ali and Horde could simply do a agreement, Aliance would have Eastern Kingdoms and Horde would have Kalimdore, Blood Elves and Drenei but must in that case switch lands. Undeads could repopulate Dalaran, Nigh Elves took large portions of Plaguelands into forests. But this is only logical storytelling that culd develope factions, its not a Bilizard way of thinking.
Calia would never be accepted by the Forsaken, she's an outsider. The Forsaken name literally is in reference to being abandoned by the light, so would it really make sense or be fair to put an Alliance sympathizing, light-wielding priestess in charge? I don't think so, plus most forsaken of the original Lordaeron bunch would have long moved on at this point, they have been Forsaken and their lives in undeath are separate from the ones the lead living. Not even mentioning how many Forsaken are still loyal to Sylvanas, Calia just wouldn't make sense.
If Lordaeron falls SIlvermoon will break off from the horde. They'll become neutral and very likely start drifting back towards the alliance. They've been members in the past and they are already the least loyal part of the horde.
I honestly think after shadowlands with a potential time jump, we’ll see a lot of zones reclaimed and put to use again ie cleansing of the eastern plague lands, rebuilding and resettling of gilneas, teldrassil, and the perhaps even upper lordaeron as a neutral hub ruled by Calia Menethil, like that of dalaran and oribos, ect, with undercity being horde exclusive.
I really want to see this become a Alliance RP hub on AD, or neutral to a an extent, but I think it's time we survivors of the third war took back our homeland!
It seems the old debate between the human survivors and the dead "survivors" will never end
@@oydjayvagr3762 It is a fun bit of the lore so can see it from both sides. I think with the new leader of the forsaken and possibility for the end of the factions as we know it we could see both coexist there.
Hope so.. It used to be my favorite capital.. But hopefully Silvermoon and nearby zones will recieve a major upgrade.. I hope we’ll get some serious Troll news soon, with Talanji and the Zandalar with the Horde I hope too see the reuiniting of Troll-kin
The forsaken, we need a proper leader, a king, someone to look up to, and not because he would have boobs. We need someone who can rebuild lordaeron and reunite the forsaken, we could have a new rep put of that, some new mounts.
only fair that horde lose a major city because they burned ours to the ground
Just a tree, no big deal
and tree men no big deal right?
Fuck that stupid tree. It was always my least favorite capital.
As soon as ALL Nightelves completed their class quests in Teldrassil they always did the long trek to Stormwind via Menethil Harbor anyways. I went through at least 12 night elf characters since 2003 (beta) and I never saw more than two or three other N.E. players in Darnassus while I was there. Let alone in Teldrassil.
Undercity was heavily under-populated too.
It would be legendary if we can choise , Lordearonian, Stromgardian, Stormwindian e.t.c.
Can you please cover what’s happening with the blood elves after the sunwell being resorted. Are they going to become high elves again?
They will I hope so , that's make me think why blizzard still not updated silvermoon , if you look allinace side Jaina killed blood elvs and high elvs in dalaran she don't trust them at all , if look at Alleria from highelvs become void elvs , most highelvs killed or corrupted when they join allinace, so the future high elvs belong the Horde not allinace
If Lordaeron rejoins the alliance it will be because the forsaken, and likely also the blood elves rejoins the alliance.
Forget all of this shit... US GNOMES HAVE IT WORSE
I don't imagine they will update the Undercity or Teldrassil until a complete world revamp, probably at the level squish and the completion of this Old God and upcoming faction story with Sylvanas, Genn and Tyrande. Players up to level 110ish see the functioning cities before their BFA destructions. I'd like to see the Undercity rebuilt and Teldrassil recover and be blessed. Both cities returned to full functionality with an updated and consistent level 1- max Azeroth.
level squish is gonna happen
Arthus...corrupted...ha...Tricked into using a blade that would take his soul as one of it's...many...victims...but...only those that have...experience Warcraft 3...know this...
Imagine if they made each zone a hub for it's own gear, material, story, quests ect. that keep up with the time, instead of coming up with a new map every expansion. The game would be so amazing you can pepper in new zones but use what you have instead of making them obsolete.
That's what everyone was saying throughout TBC and WotLK, and so they did Cataclysm. And look where that got us. :P
I really wish everyone would stop pushing Calia.
For the forsaken
A lot a lot of supertonic tons of tons of tons if shieeet....
If Gilneas is rebuilt then Genn gonna abandon the Alliance and shut himself and all of his worgen people back inside their own territory lol
If he does Crowley will kill him and usurp his throne.
Cries in Gnomish
i love the gilneas shade at the end. sick burn, such a waste of a capital city, and a story.
I imagine most of Stormwind's current population is from Lordaeron or Lordaeron ancestry at this point too. Not just from 3rd War refugees but the people who repopulated the Kingdom after the Second War. Most of Stormwind's original population was wiped out in the First War.
So when i first saw Calia... i thought she was not wearing pants...
*glad i was wrong*
Lol
Well, there are some things to consider. I for one would love to see an evolution of the zone. Have the undeed from the Forsaken redeemed and let them have their land in a new architecture. Not just ruins, but more alive. While it is true they died, they never left. Lordaeron citizens deserve some love, and it may be good time they become something new and not just a shadow of what they used to be. I do hope so see an evolution on this for undead players and their new place.
As for the continent. All around the plaguelands could take a huge effort to heal the land. Maybe a combination of the Cenarion Circle and the Argent Crusade. Or maybe the plaguelands may remain as unique type of environment with their own strengths and resources.
One thing for sure is that I would love to see Stratholme recovered. That place could be a neutral ground for living and undead. Lordaeron Capital City may be in dispute, but Stratholme was a great place to finally clear from fire and undead.
I mean, with calia possibly taking lead of the forsaken, it paints the idea of, because of her close bond with alliance leaders, of her getting the forsaken to follow her ideal and make them make peace with their human brethrens.
Of course how the forsaken would react to that remains to be see, but I can already tell how pissed off the forsaken fanbase will be about it.
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I hope they rebuild silvermoon 13 years and the ruins of silvermoon and the dead scar are still there
If not Gilneas, maybe the Kaldorei could inherit Lordaeron and it’s lands.
*super odrađen video i naracija na engleskom*
Hvala puno.
outdated video, alliance conquered all areas around stromgarde and retaked darkshore. Its cannon
Damn! great video! really well done
Thank you.
Cool
Let it be a neutral hub. Calia and the risen can run it. Restore gilneas and night elves can chill there
I want Bolvar to lead the Forsaken with Lillian being his right hand girl.
I'd picture her walking away after this battle like she did in Saurfaung cinematic, now that would've been epic.
*AWESOME!!!*
You say high elf and show a blood elf
Blood elfs are highelfs...
@@krisbrooks1825 Not anymore, especially when there are still proper high elves around.
Blood elves are not high elves. High elves are still part of the alliance under Silver convenant. Blood elves suck fel magic and are with Horde. There is a BIG difference
@@karelhemala5699 nah they are the same also they don't even do fel magic anymore. The sunwell happened years ago and canonicaly they are powered by a narus light magic like the light forge dranie. Is why you got yellow eye options for them now.
@@JasonBoreu there is a grand total of what 30 uncorupted high elfs the rest are either blood elfs for the horde or void elfs for alliance. You are never gonna get another reskinned blood elf model.
Haven't watched the vid yet, but the fey dance in the western forests of tirisfal glade accessible only by flight hints to an old god beneath the zone. I see the future of the zone is a max level phase including a raid beneath the earth.
I recommend jumping onto a pally and do the holy spec artifact quest, there is definitively something under tirisfal :)
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I think that the argent crusade holds plaguelands
Hummmm
But the is the Sister of Hitle....Arthas.
What about Kaldorei / Night Elves and their part of Kalimdor after BfA???
Night elves probably take back the darkshore during bfa, so Alliance is Canon winner of that battlefront if you ask me.
In the latest datamined dialogues for the new patch. Night elve sentinels are on the hunt for sylvanas where about and the population of nighelves are migrating to Nordassil the first world tree that was restore by the green dragons
Bypass the plegg, indeed, :D
damn I'm early
My theory is they will rebuild, but just use the upper half with Calia in the Throne room. She'll say something cheesy about not needing to live in darkness.
I can see the new Queen of the Forsaken making terms with Greymane in exchange for allowing the Foraken to rebuild, they could return to Gilneas. All the while the remnants of the Scarlet Crusade and Sylvanas Loyalist making a right mess of things for both parties.
FUmarc the Scarlet crusade are all dead since legion; aren’t they?
@First Captain Valerius Rensorfen Aren’t they, indeed. Some are canon still in Northrend, but with the Lich King’s return to center stage, it wouldn’t be a stretch to see the Scarlet Onslaught Remnants return to take advantage of chaos.
FUmarc “Allowing?” Greymane and the Gilneans have no say regarding what happens in Lordaeron.
@Bleeding Eye Watcher They would be the closest to Lorderon, and had conquered it before Sylvanas destroyed it. Both Lorderon and Gilneas suffer because Sylvanas used the blight, and its effects still lingers. Just saying.
FUmarc Gilneas never conquered Lordaeron, certainly not for lack of trying.
Close the Undercity like Chernobyl
Bro I love your voice I wish I meet you and talk to you , your voice my god it's great and I love Warcraft too.... You are a bonus ...
Are there any sports in azeroth?
Gnome ball
High Elven Orc Hunting, started by Alleria in W2
In the beginning of BFA I had the theory that Night Elf Druids could restore the lands of Tirisfal Glades, and make Lordaeron habitable again, and in extent make that their new starting zone since Teldrassil was burnt down, but since the Alliance were the de facto winners of BFA and they were able to retake Darkshore, it no longer make sense that the Night Elfs would do anything that could risk them losing the northern parts of Kalimdor, i.e. relocating would be pointless.
Horde win in BFA they take nightelvs land , and destroyed UNDERCiTY
Yout horde biases is strong in this video
Give it back to alliance. Useless city. i am horde btw
Lordaeron belongs to the Horde.
Gilneas will rise up again!
To be honest, I play WoW just because of Forsaken and their story. I don't know why, but it seems like it has deepest roots in the whole Warcraft games. I really, really hope Activision-Blizzard will give them some love and tell us more about story of, again, abandoned nation...
Thank you !
It wouldnt but God will restore youre pain
Lord bless you all
Imagine that
next expansion has really crappy writing, Calia joins the horde to lead the forsaken *puke* bring me back Sylvanas and Putress
Most of the video has nothing to do with the title. Clickbait.
How so? I covered the history of Lordaeron, the current events, the position of the Alliance and the Horde in regards to Lordaeron and what are the possibilities with the story after BFA.