Their site says their address is in Tokyo, Japan. No mention of a swiss movement that I can see. Guess they haven't quite decided whether to claim to be Japanese or Swiss yet.
Its not chinese, they are made in japan, confirmed by some third party sources. I’m sure some manufacturing is done in china though. Edit: the sources i found straight up lied, it is fully and entirely made in china, then assembled in japan. Honestly kinda gross they are allowed to put japan made on it.
@@songoku-jx3cb yeah i agree. Especially cartier pasha c gmt. What a deep understanding of gmt, who would think before them to put that 24 hour bezel around the case like that. Also i like the fact that cartier pasha didn’t change much from 1950s to today. Which one is next in this advanced villages? Longines? Lool
I have a pro diver invicta and had someone say “is that a Rolex.”, I say “no it’s an Invicta”, “oh, cool, is that like a Rolex?” Point being, the watch might not be Richard Mille, but the social interaction from someone who knows enough to know it looks like a Richard Mille but can’t tell it isn’t probably would be pretty positive. Some people can’t tell a red star from a Patel Phillipe and think the iwatch is cooler than either… really the cool thing is that you get the cool style like a Richard Mille with what appears to be an awesome level of quality and aesthetic for the price.
Nothing wrong with liking the design of a Richard Mille and going with a more affordable but still respectable option. It’s like going for a Seiko 5 for $100 instead of a $7k Rolex Oyster Perpetual
I agree. Lots of people admire RM, but they are ridiculously out of reach for 99.99% of the population. Even if I had $10M, I don’t know if I could justify spending hundreds of thousands on a watch. I don’t see anything wrong with getting an affordable alternative that gives you a similar look and feel.
The case is certainly nicer looking than a lot of Richard Mille look-alikes as it is actually faithful to the RM design language. I find that a lot of affordable RM alternatives fall flat due to poor design. That being said the skeletonized movement in this watch still leaves something to be desired. This watch suffers from the same issue that most affordable skeletonized watches suffer from and that is the fact that the movements aren't designed to be skeletonized and just look ugly. Unfortunately the perfect RM homage still seems out of reach, which is a shame since I actually really like the brands aesthetic.
This is what I love about Watchfinder, nothing is sacred. You feature watches from the astronomically priced to the cheap knock offs. (Not saying 2000 dollars for a Richard Mille lookalike is cheap change though)
For a ~$2500 watch purchase, I'd rather buy one or two vintage Omega Seamasters. Yes, their design is very much different, but they are very solid and keep their value. I'm very happy with my vintage Omegas, and it's very unlikely that I will sell them.
About a year ago, I purchased a Zer00 Time T4, which is a tourbillon, movement. I investigated it at the time, and my watch consists of Chinese parts, but is assembled in Japan. The Chinese actually do know how to make a good watch these days, but their main problem is quality control and cleanliness in assembly. Zer00 Time avoids this by assembling the watches in Japan, where they have the reputation as perfectionists. My T4 is beautiful, runs great, and is a real conversation piece. I totally love it! I own Rolexes, Omegas, Panerais, Longines, etc. - but if I want to get attention, and start some watch conversation, I wear my T4.
The watch is Chinese parts that are assembled and go through QA in Japan (at least that's the way I understood it.). I was able to fund their Kickstarter and get a 2 pack of the T4 Archers, and they are awesome. It looks great, and has a tourbillon, but it doesn't cost $30k minimum. I gave the second one to my buddy for his 40th, and it's been his daily wear for nearly a year. Looks new still and functions perfectly. They come in a really nice box that was way more elaborate than I was expecting. If you want to try to fool people into thinking you're wearing an RM, this is the best way to do it for sure.
Glad to hear your watches are working OK. Wish I could say the same, mine broke and I ended up selling it as soon as it came back from Zeroo. Very disappointing experience, I won't be buying another.
You shouldn't have to trick anyone into think you're wearing something that you're not buy stuff you like in the price you can afford and make yourself happy
@@dtroutmann Purely by accident I tricked some burglars into thinking that I was wearing Panerai. They stole my $20 Chinese knock-off. I mean it was quartz ffs 🤣
I love my T4, I got the kickstarter as well and wish I got 2 in different case colors. Mine has been very reliable and it’s great swapping straps for different looks. I would love to get the M2 or M3S but it is tough without the massive kickstarter discount.
Fantastic watch and a better buy than the original. Nobody will ever spend $250k on a real Richard Mille then try to push it anywhere near it's limits.
So much ignorance in the comments. It’s really naive to think that everything made in China is somehow inferior. And I’m sure you’re all typing these comments on your iPhone.
the good days of high end swiss watchmaking are numbered. No one is going to be dumb enough to pay hundreds of thousands on a watch when 90% of that money is going to celebrities and marketing expenses
The dial says "JAPAN MADE" and the rotor says "SWISS". Is ZEROO merely HQ'd in the PRC or are they more flexible in their labeling than is considered usual?
Finally, was waiting for this video when I saw the M2, I remember you talking about the T4 like yesterday, it was the video that got me into Watches, I started with the M1 and now I am absolutely down the rabbit hole, please keep making video man, love your stuff
@@baxoutthebox5682 I wanted a M2 too, tho I am thinking about the PRX Chronograph too so Im not sure if I will ever get the M2 since I already have the M1
@@SW4GK1NG I get that, I even think about the T4 and M2 being similar enough to where it’s not at the top of my list. But, I’d probably go for the same case and strap in this video and since my T4 is silver, the M2 in rose gold would be different enough to justify buying. Good luck with your future buys, the PRX chrono looks great.
Wow, I didn’t expect this watch review! I own Zeroo M2 with silver color, wearing it with pure joy. The movement is Swiss-made so the accuracy is surprisingly good.
@@sleephashira852 I had chat with their sales before my purchase. The watch movement is imported from Swiss to Japan, and the watch is assembled in Tokyo. I actually have no idea where China comes from.
As an "above-ground replica" watch, it's probably overpriced! The only thing unique about it is that it comes with a 2-year warranty. In the aughts, I purchased two Omega watches. One was purchased from an authorized retailer; the other was a replica that I've used as a "beater" for the past 15 years. After about ten years, the genuine watch stopped ticking and required $800.00USD for servicing! The replica, that cost less than 1/10 the price, has never stopped ticking and keeps relatively accurate time to this day.
I plan on doing the same thing when I get my first expensive watch: buy the expensive genuine but daily a rep so as to not ruin the genuine. What do you do when people ask if your rep is genuine?
I will never understand that mentality. Wear Your Watches. I could understand if it was for security purposes, but then again getting “aggressively” robbed for a rep is pretty sad
Rotor says swiss, dial says japan, but the thing is made in China and costs 2 grand? A bit naff for me just from not being able to decide where it wants to come from. As much as I may like the looks, I think I’ll pass.
I'll give RM (and its fans) this much: it's a nice brand for the ultra-rich who want to be ostentatious without just covering a Rolex in glue and dipping it into a bowl of diamonds.
I'm not an RM fan, for most of their line. However, I kind of like this and if I was in the RM market, I'd probably look for one their older watches that were more like this. This watch is an interesting quandary as many popular watches are semi-clones of other manufactures watches and we forgive them for this because either their copy became the most popular version or it's "just different enough". Cloning the fonts, for me, pushes this too much into the copy category. I think the case is fine, their Japanese/Swiss movement is weird but isn't pretending to be something it's not. If they had come up with their own font it would have been enough different for me to say cool.
I like it, but... value retention... This might be a lousy reason to not buy one but I hate the idea of paying $2500 and then in 3 years I want to roll it into something better and only getting $300 bc no one knows what the heck it is...
Looking at the watch, courtesy of your macro lens, some of the finish on the parts are reminiscent of a time when a thou, or one thousandths of an inch, was considered to be precision machining, but we are now living in an age where microns, one thousandth of a millimetre, are how "precision" is measured. That's not a criticism of Chinese watchmaking or good quality Chinese manufacturing, it's more of a dig at the designers who specified such loose finishing tolerances on parts that are in clear view ... and that's the perspective of someone who has a couple of $2,000 watches. For such a "showy" watch, I'd be disappointed with the level of finish, especially as the level of finish could be improved by adding 30 seconds to the milling cycle times.
I’d rather get a Spirit of Big Bang to scratch the itch of having a vulgar tonneau shaped watch over this. Whether it was the automatic chronograph housing the El Primero movement or the manual wind 10-day power reserve Meca-10 movement.
Great video! Nice looking watch. However the question is how many watch enthusiasts want to wear a $2000 RM wanna be, made in China? Perhaps the Chinese ones?
How else are you supposed to get dried boogers out of your nose? I don’t think it is a coincidence that your finger has evolved to fit into your nostril.
I think RM are fugly -- but extremely-beautifully-made -- watches (particularly the movements; thank goodness they don't come attractively cased or I might be tempted). This has all the fugliness and none of the beautifully-made-ness.
Whether or not I like a Mille, I wouldn't want to be seen wearing one. It says ... 'I'm new rich and want to rub it on your face" and I'm not that person
A Chinese watch with "Japan Made" on the dial and "Swiss" on the rotor for $2,000 is an international bargain.
Their site says their address is in Tokyo, Japan. No mention of a swiss movement that I can see. Guess they haven't quite decided whether to claim to be Japanese or Swiss yet.
The movement is actually swiss its an ETA
Its not chinese, they are made in japan, confirmed by some third party sources. I’m sure some manufacturing is done in china though.
Edit: the sources i found straight up lied, it is fully and entirely made in china, then assembled in japan. Honestly kinda gross they are allowed to put japan made on it.
😭😭😂😭🤣😭😭
@@melody3741 if it's assembled in Japan, it's technically Japan made!
The screws are aligned so it's already better than every Hublot ever made.
Cartier has them unalligned and its better than most rolexes so 😂
@@songoku-jx3cb yeah in your village maybe Cartier is better then rolex.
They're probably aligned because they're not real screws...
@@artkirakosyan2633 nah its in every village with actual taste of horology
@@songoku-jx3cb yeah i agree. Especially cartier pasha c gmt. What a deep understanding of gmt, who would think before them to put that 24 hour bezel around the case like that. Also i like the fact that cartier pasha didn’t change much from 1950s to today. Which one is next in this advanced villages? Longines? Lool
Imagine paying $2100 for the privilege of telling people "No actually it's not a Richard Mille..."
kinda true tho.
I’ll rather spend $2100 for this than wearing a replica
I have a pro diver invicta and had someone say “is that a Rolex.”, I say “no it’s an Invicta”, “oh, cool, is that like a Rolex?” Point being, the watch might not be Richard Mille, but the social interaction from someone who knows enough to know it looks like a Richard Mille but can’t tell it isn’t probably would be pretty positive.
Some people can’t tell a red star from a Patel Phillipe and think the iwatch is cooler than either… really the cool thing is that you get the cool style like a Richard Mille with what appears to be an awesome level of quality and aesthetic for the price.
@@Iyiouseismouse how is it quality when its a complete imitation?
@@maiketeaches it IS a replica
This gentleman my friend can sell a stone to a stone golem. Love his explanation and his passion for watches that is present in his voice
Nothing wrong with liking the design of a Richard Mille and going with a more affordable but still respectable option. It’s like going for a Seiko 5 for $100 instead of a $7k Rolex Oyster Perpetual
Agree
I agree. Lots of people admire RM, but they are ridiculously out of reach for 99.99% of the population. Even if I had $10M, I don’t know if I could justify spending hundreds of thousands on a watch. I don’t see anything wrong with getting an affordable alternative that gives you a similar look and feel.
The case is certainly nicer looking than a lot of Richard Mille look-alikes as it is actually faithful to the RM design language. I find that a lot of affordable RM alternatives fall flat due to poor design. That being said the skeletonized movement in this watch still leaves something to be desired. This watch suffers from the same issue that most affordable skeletonized watches suffer from and that is the fact that the movements aren't designed to be skeletonized and just look ugly. Unfortunately the perfect RM homage still seems out of reach, which is a shame since I actually really like the brands aesthetic.
This is what I love about Watchfinder, nothing is sacred. You feature watches from the astronomically priced to the cheap knock offs. (Not saying 2000 dollars for a Richard Mille lookalike is cheap change though)
M2 is used Swiss STP6-15 movement.
For a ~$2500 watch purchase, I'd rather buy one or two vintage Omega Seamasters. Yes, their design is very much different, but they are very solid and keep their value. I'm very happy with my vintage Omegas, and it's very unlikely that I will sell them.
Chinese can make good quality too but its usually the buyer that asks the producer in china to make it as cheap as possible
don't particularly like RM Watches. however. i'm impressed with the Fit & Finish. well done.
thank you for the review.
Just get a Ciga Design for a couple of hundred bucks and be done with it - it's a novelty watch at best anyway.
Literally a 2824 with a slight touch of Alibaba customization. Look up enloong and even the bridges are extremely similar lol
i was just checking what else they offer and i really super like the design of their classic series, the C3 and C2 models
About a year ago, I purchased a Zer00 Time T4, which is a tourbillon, movement. I investigated it at the time, and my watch consists of Chinese parts, but is assembled in Japan. The Chinese actually do know how to make a good watch these days, but their main problem is quality control and cleanliness in assembly. Zer00 Time avoids this by assembling the watches in Japan, where they have the reputation as perfectionists. My T4 is beautiful, runs great, and is a real conversation piece. I totally love it! I own Rolexes, Omegas, Panerais, Longines, etc. - but if I want to get attention, and start some watch conversation, I wear my T4.
Start a Convo so you wear your Zer00 watch!!! LOL ...
yea screw Rolex and panerais
Regular people don't care about Rolex and Panerai because they only look at what is unique @@kylejones3321
Hello, what’s your wrist size please ?
I own ZEROO T8 tourbillon. Build quality is amazing.
Damn I would hope so, that's a five thousand dollar watch.
Problem with trying to look like you’re wearing a RM is you’ll get attacked in London for nothing
Very nice watch and a great deal for its price . ❤. My question is how well is it’s resale value in the 2nd hand market
I'm not into skeleton dials nor Richard Mille but you are slowly changing my mind. Cheers!
The watch is Chinese parts that are assembled and go through QA in Japan (at least that's the way I understood it.). I was able to fund their Kickstarter and get a 2 pack of the T4 Archers, and they are awesome. It looks great, and has a tourbillon, but it doesn't cost $30k minimum. I gave the second one to my buddy for his 40th, and it's been his daily wear for nearly a year. Looks new still and functions perfectly. They come in a really nice box that was way more elaborate than I was expecting. If you want to try to fool people into thinking you're wearing an RM, this is the best way to do it for sure.
Glad to hear your watches are working OK. Wish I could say the same, mine broke and I ended up selling it as soon as it came back from Zeroo. Very disappointing experience, I won't be buying another.
You shouldn't have to trick anyone into think you're wearing something that you're not buy stuff you like in the price you can afford and make yourself happy
@@dtroutmann Purely by accident I tricked some burglars into thinking that I was wearing Panerai. They stole my $20 Chinese knock-off. I mean it was quartz ffs 🤣
I love my T4, I got the kickstarter as well and wish I got 2 in different case colors. Mine has been very reliable and it’s great swapping straps for different looks. I would love to get the M2 or M3S but it is tough without the massive kickstarter discount.
whats the best chinese watch brand tho??
Fantastic watch and a better buy than the original. Nobody will ever spend $250k on a real Richard Mille then try to push it anywhere near it's limits.
So much ignorance in the comments. It’s really naive to think that everything made in China is somehow inferior. And I’m sure you’re all typing these comments on your iPhone.
Anything made under communism is inferior by default.
the good days of high end swiss watchmaking are numbered. No one is going to be dumb enough to pay hundreds of thousands on a watch when 90% of that money is going to celebrities and marketing expenses
Chinese, Swiss, Japan Made - Just how many countries can they call out?
wow given the life-shortening consequences of wearing what looks like an expensive watch in Kensington where I live I am going to have to pass!
It's something I would definitely buy
The dial says "JAPAN MADE" and the rotor says "SWISS". Is ZEROO merely HQ'd in the PRC or are they more flexible in their labeling than is considered usual?
Would love for you to check out the Artel Rotec V3. It has an inhouse forged carbon tonneau case and looks remarkable
It looks much better than a RM
Finally, was waiting for this video when I saw the M2, I remember you talking about the T4 like yesterday, it was the video that got me into Watches, I started with the M1 and now I am absolutely down the rabbit hole, please keep making video man, love your stuff
Nice! I bought the T4 because that video, my gf has the M1D, and I’ve been wanting the M2 ever since it was released. Love this underrated brand.
@@baxoutthebox5682 I wanted a M2 too, tho I am thinking about the PRX Chronograph too so Im not sure if I will ever get the M2 since I already have the M1
@@SW4GK1NG I get that, I even think about the T4 and M2 being similar enough to where it’s not at the top of my list. But, I’d probably go for the same case and strap in this video and since my T4 is silver, the M2 in rose gold would be different enough to justify buying. Good luck with your future buys, the PRX chrono looks great.
Do you pick your noise though?
I personally dont like RM, but after seeing this amazing video I am starting to appreciate the beauty of skeletonized watch.
Thank you for this
"Would I pay $2,100 for one? NOPE"
Wow, I didn’t expect this watch review! I own Zeroo M2 with silver color, wearing it with pure joy. The movement is Swiss-made so the accuracy is surprisingly good.
swiss made doesn't mean shit...
@@cl4ssic ok
Are you saying it's really a Swiss movement and not a Chinese one with the word "swiss" on it? What movement is it then?
You mean that the engraving “Swiss Made” does not warrant any quality or that it might be made elsewhere ?
@@sleephashira852 I had chat with their sales before my purchase. The watch movement is imported from Swiss to Japan, and the watch is assembled in Tokyo. I actually have no idea where China comes from.
I was wondering when you were going to review zeroo time
Still don't quite get where the "Japan Made" on the dial comes from...
is the pixelation at the start of every video a choice or does the editor not know about bitrates? drives me nuts everytime lmao
As an "above-ground replica" watch, it's probably overpriced! The only thing unique about it is that it comes with a 2-year warranty. In the aughts, I purchased two Omega watches. One was purchased from an authorized retailer; the other was a replica that I've used as a "beater" for the past 15 years. After about ten years, the genuine watch stopped ticking and required $800.00USD for servicing! The replica, that cost less than 1/10 the price, has never stopped ticking and keeps relatively accurate time to this day.
Probably cus u rarely wear the genuine one, the automatic movement left unused all the oils became greasy and movement eventually stops.
@@Maxy18181 I have a watch winder. Of the dozen semi-luxury watches I own, all purchased during the same period, the Omega was the only one to fail.
I plan on doing the same thing when I get my first expensive watch: buy the expensive genuine but daily a rep so as to not ruin the genuine. What do you do when people ask if your rep is genuine?
I will never understand that mentality. Wear Your Watches.
I could understand if it was for security purposes, but then again getting “aggressively” robbed for a rep is pretty sad
@@maiketeaches I got my 20 buck Panerai copy stolen. They didn't believe me when I said it was fake. It was quartz ffs 🤣
There is a Zeroo M1 on Chrono24 for 280.-
So the speculation of would I / wouldn't I wear a re-shot meal is kind of moot, anyway. -- CC English, autogenerated
Lovely video. I just don't understand why the RM is so expensive.
Interesting and informative 🇯🇲
Rotor says swiss, dial says japan, but the thing is made in China and costs 2 grand? A bit naff for me just from not being able to decide where it wants to come from. As much as I may like the looks, I think I’ll pass.
I'll give RM (and its fans) this much: it's a nice brand for the ultra-rich who want to be ostentatious without just covering a Rolex in glue and dipping it into a bowl of diamonds.
I'm not an RM fan, for most of their line. However, I kind of like this and if I was in the RM market, I'd probably look for one their older watches that were more like this. This watch is an interesting quandary as many popular watches are semi-clones of other manufactures watches and we forgive them for this because either their copy became the most popular version or it's "just different enough". Cloning the fonts, for me, pushes this too much into the copy category. I think the case is fine, their Japanese/Swiss movement is weird but isn't pretending to be something it's not. If they had come up with their own font it would have been enough different for me to say cool.
Just here to admit that I too, really enjoy RM. There are dozens of us!
Just imagine d ridiculous margins of these elite watch making companies
"Maybe in San Francisco" LOL
Awesome video. Thank you.
One house on a wrist. Insane 🔥
I like it, but... value retention... This might be a lousy reason to not buy one but I hate the idea of paying $2500 and then in 3 years I want to roll it into something better and only getting $300 bc no one knows what the heck it is...
To me the M2 More resembles a Richard mille RM10
Again, you validate the purchase of my (second) Apple watch. Thank you.
better looking than most RM's. Not joking.
The reverse was stamped 'SWISS', the front says 'JAPAN MADE' but it comes from China? Nice watch but I can't do China.
Deep cover sw200
Kinda like a SsangYong. Just not quite there, ya know
Looking at the watch, courtesy of your macro lens, some of the finish on the parts are reminiscent of a time when a thou, or one thousandths of an inch, was considered to be precision machining, but we are now living in an age where microns, one thousandth of a millimetre, are how "precision" is measured.
That's not a criticism of Chinese watchmaking or good quality Chinese manufacturing, it's more of a dig at the designers who specified such loose finishing tolerances on parts that are in clear view ... and that's the perspective of someone who has a couple of $2,000 watches.
For such a "showy" watch, I'd be disappointed with the level of finish, especially as the level of finish could be improved by adding 30 seconds to the milling cycle times.
When you say Richard Mille more often than the actual watch brand name you know it’s 100% a knock off rather than homage.
I’d rather get a Spirit of Big Bang to scratch the itch of having a vulgar tonneau shaped watch over this. Whether it was the automatic chronograph housing the El Primero movement or the manual wind 10-day power reserve Meca-10 movement.
This shows RM profit margins 😏
Great video! Nice looking watch. However the question is how many watch enthusiasts want to wear a $2000 RM wanna be, made in China? Perhaps the Chinese ones?
China has some top machines, all because of the rep game they might grown their own quality watch brand
Get a Tsar Bomba.
I too will gladly admit it :
I pick my nose when no one is watching.
How else are you supposed to get dried boogers out of your nose? I don’t think it is a coincidence that your finger has evolved to fit into your nostril.
Between Strood and Faversham 😂
This video got personal real quick at the beginning lol
Hey everybody! Get a load of this guy who can’t afford an RM!
The only justification of paying 250k or more usd for a watch is to be able to tell people "I am very rich".
You’re better off buying a frank M. For a few grand more if you just have to have this design
Yes, but the boderry is 10% of this one's cost with 100% of the knock-off looks
Is it just me, or is there a massive hole through the center of the crystal?
the numbers are printed on a separate crystal set below.
the script writer of every video is william shakespeare [proud subsciber since 2019]
Those 4 people should have just bought a Richard Mille for mere 250k. & still would have been alive as a bonus.
It's called The Subaru
You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose.
But you cannot pick your friend's nose.
No need to spend that much for an RM lookalike, check out ‘Pintime’ watches.
I'm waiting for the brand known as "Onee".
Nice video as always
❤
Nah get a Nubeo Magellan instead
Maybe an unpopular opinion, but this looks better than the original)
If this is a Chinese watch, why does it say Japan Made on the dial? So, Chinese watch made in Japan with a Swiss movement. All for only $2,000!! 😅
Pretty damning expose of Richard Mille.
Isn't Zeroo time a Japanese company?
This mans scripts are just excellent 😂🙌🙌
I think RM are fugly -- but extremely-beautifully-made -- watches (particularly the movements; thank goodness they don't come attractively cased or I might be tempted). This has all the fugliness and none of the beautifully-made-ness.
this is an ad and he hasn't told us
Tough call. Depening how you look at it, if this has RM printed on it, it would be a fake. Now without it's a 'hommage'.
I was literally picking my nose when he said that thing about picking your nose
How is this not plagiarism? I really dont get how the watch industry gets away with it.
That's almost a little less grotesque as the Richard Mille.
I swear, I watch this video's for Morgan's storytelling.
I'll just stick to my apple watch thx
Only another 1% off and it'll be good.
Excellent macro details! Looks sharp, but not sure if one would fork out this much for a Chinese watch... for now.
Don't wear this in London if you want to leave with your arms.
I’m pretty sure we evolved fingers that fit inside of our nostrils for a reason.
Whether or not I like a Mille, I wouldn't want to be seen wearing one. It says ... 'I'm new rich and want to rub it on your face" and I'm not that person