Full Analysis of the Halo 2 Private Alpha
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Salutations! Welcome to our newest installment to the Halo betas series, where we'll once again be covering an Alpha build rather than a Beta.
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If you want to download the build and play it yourself, check the description. Download link is there.
Is there a video on how to install it?
Is it an Xbox rom?
the link no longer works, just in case you weren't aware
@@TheUltimoScorp he updated to the link I sent
@@ayylmao4142 i
The pistol doesn't do any damage. So in other words, it's just like the final game's version of the pistol?
It may suck, but I fucking love duel wielding them, they just feel so great to use
Haha
Before the patches the pistol could kill in 9 shots dual wielded. Does this help defend the pistol in 2? No but it was still alright for a few months somewhat.
lolololololololololololololololololololol.
You are a man of culture, Cole.
During my childhood (now I became adult), I always assumed franchise wide, it was the absolute worst gun of Halo. Shame I never had any other Halo games than Halo 2.
Pretty cool to see how close it was to CE originally.
Hasuku ikr just imagine if bungie wasn't restricted to time restraints
Long as autos didn't suck and magnum didn't win everything for free it woulda been good
@@williamwest9204 problem is not the magnum which was perfect it was spawning with it every time and amount count
Halo 2 uses a modified CE engine, just with better lighting and Havok physics implementation.
@@KnoxCarbon which was sick but it could have been better had they sticked with the halo 2 stencil engine this alpha looked intense
To be honest, I thought that "FuckGamecheat" player was actually Gamecheato himself...
*BOI, WAS I WRONG*
cheats are for losers
What does that have to do with my comment?
I understood that reference
Forgive me for being clueless, but what reference are you talking about?
ua-cam.com/video/FcNTEyEqxH0/v-deo.html
Its satisfying hearing "magazine" instead of "clip."
Then again, when he mentions the shot for the Shotgun as "slugs," that's incorrect. I'm pretty sure it's some type of buck shot. 00B judging by the pellet count and size.
@@quickscopeoneeighty9158 I just call them shells... also originally they looked more like cards so...
Clipazines
❌NO_THOTS_ALLOWED❌
Can we copystrike Mustafa Curgu?!
Mustafa Curgu Lol
An hour long Vengeful Vid?
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Now we just need someone to leak a build of Halo 2 with the Stencil engine on it.
It's unlikely to happen because I don't think anyone but the devs have put their hands on it, it'd be a miracle for them to leak it
but still, what would work on that engine? The E3 demo?
XUZUL I'd hope so. Or at the very least, maybe some kind of content that we've never seen before. What's interesting about the engine is that there's an old screenshot of Bloodgulch rendered in the engine on Bungie.net halo.bungie.net/news/content.aspx?cid=25650
Dude that would be orgasmic just to play the '03 E3 demo! BTW, has anyone here played the OG Xbox version of Kameo?
@@christopherwalkinalloverya5824 look it up. Its out there being played
About 2-3 weeks before halo 2 originally released in the US my local internet cafe at the time had a French version of I'm not sure was a full or alpha/beta version of halo 2 for everyone to play/lan with. I haven't had any luck finding any information of this build of Halo 2 anywhere online, can anyone shed any light on what version that possibly was?
40:07 the if you enter the passenger seat weaponless you go into a t pose is actually present in the retail version but Ive only seen done with marines
On halo reach if you download a no weapons game type or a dayz gametype that spawns with no weapons it will t pose when in the vehicle.
it's a pretty important thing to acknowledge any missteps you may have taken and genuinely try to do better in the future. good on you for admitting to your mistakes and hearing others out, and im also sorry to hear that you've been going through a rough patch in life currently
thanks for the great content, this video is super interesting and you put a lot of effort into analyzing it all, good work as always dude, and take care of yourself
I love this analysis. You really have poured your soul into analyzing the alpha. This overlook is really detailed. Hope to see more gameplay footage and that you get through your rough times.
A warzone Halo 2 style would have been fantastic. Though I imagine it wouldn’t run well considering it’s the OG Xbox.
Og battlefield games did it.
You reminded me how unnecessarily big waterworks was. The map feels like it was intended for a larger player cap than the 16 that the release version of the game has. I bet it could have been a cool map with something more like 24 players on it.
It could be pretty neat as a Warzone map or something in H5.
I still think it's fun though
check out the 2003 waterworks from digsite too lmao it was maybe twice maybe three times as big
I love the "running" animation so much
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Now we wait for the alpha campaign content. It's gonna be awhile...
halo 2 is so good
guy with ayylien gamertag is lit
Ayy Lmao Ayy shouldn't you be at Generalheed's comment section?🤔
i live in every halo comment section but heed is my man
ayyyy lmaooo
All I want is to see the early betas and alphas of the campaigns
Facts!
OMG, I would kill to have a playable Halo 2 '03 E3 demo!
@@christopherwalkinalloverya5824 soon
Wow, the alpha actually had health.
I have no idea of what he's talking about in the beginning, mainly because I just discovered his channel XD
my dad was one of the bungie employees that got selected to play this build back in the day :)
Nice!
im new to this channel so i had no context behind your apologies (which of course you explained) but holy shit, why the fuck dont other youtubers take a page out of your book on how to apologize? it was simple and it was honest and not made to be a big deal. thats how its supposed to be done. mad respect bro. i had already subbed but if i could do it again, i would. very classy.
Damn these are always so good. Great works as always.
This comment is way past the upload date but man, don't feel like you owe the UA-cam community a thing. We love your content but I think most of us would agree that we'd rather you take care of your personal struggles than prioritize content. Thank you for the content you put together, I hope things got/are getting better!
Awesome video! Glad to see you noticed all of these changes. I missed a lot of them while playing.
Dam imagine if you tubers actually had the dignity you had when doing apologies lol
I remember reading about this alpha back in the day. A player with the name "char" was interviewed because he was destroying everyone else.
I was so jealous and wanted to be a Microsoft employee one day so I could be invited to something like this too. 😆
8:23 The *power* *OF* *T H E* **I** **C** **O** **N** **I** **C** _FLOODS_ *_**U**_*
#iconic Thanks
Thanks for your hard work and great vid. Super interesting to see how halo 2 evolved over its short dev time.
Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question, but are there people playing this online right now?
This makes me so happy lol.
I’d kill to sit in a room with the original Halo 2 Bungie development team and talk for hours about every single thing.
iPlayiOS Don't you mean bungie before Activision and destiny
Wallace Jenkins Knew someone would say that, as it always happens.
When Bungie is being referred to in terms of Halo, Destiny never comes to thought because Destiny doesn't even come near Halo.
Mentioning Destiny Bungie is useless.
wow, so proud of you! you always put so much work into your videos!! keep it up!
Ashley Eve your a gamergirl.
saint john no it’s fake
Let me just say if Halo 2 didn't have split-screen (which was basically the only way I played it, since I didn't have an Xbox but my friend did) I would've never fallen in love with the game. Halo 2 is my all-time favorite Halo game for a reason, because me and my best friends would sit and play campaign co-op and multiplayer for hours and hours. Without split-screen idk if I ever would've even played at all.
amazing video
Think of how much better halo 2, and even halo in general would have been if there wasn't those pesky time constraints
How can I get multiplayer games running? I have it working on my modded xbox, and with internet.
X Link Kai with system link tunneling
Top 10 youtube apologize done right
I love that we can now play all the Alphas and Betas. Moders better be taking notes.
I hate what they did to the shotgun post-CE. useless garbage more or less which is weird as shit as my real life 12 gauge would outgun the post-CE shotguns every single time
So Headhunter and Invasion were not new fully to Halo: Reach? Huh, I did not know that wow.
This was a great analysis, Good job Vadam.
It looks to me that given the state this alpha was in Bungie basically made Halo 2 in just over a year which give credence to them describing Halo 2 as having the 'mother of all crunches'. It's a shame we never got to see a halo game with that fancy stencil lighting system.
are you telling me gamecheat was upset there was a fuck gamecheat tag?? Nah. FUCK GAMECHEAT!
their is a new halo mcc build coming, but i wonder how bad was the alpha & betas i wonder?
the final release was a botched & broken release as each game in a lot of ways are incomplete.
the games on mcc are broken & downgraded compare to their in functionality compared to their originals.
i don't need to talk about cea, reach being missing; H2A was botched removing exploits & features in Halo 2.
halo 3's re-release was botched from what the halo fans expected, like a flood firefight mode from halo 3 ODST in MCC.
Halo 4 is missing it's in game features & all it's customization's, armor abilities, Tactical packages +upgrades aren't accessible.
forget sprint not being in 1, 2 & 3, loadouts can't be customized in game on halo 4 modes anymore!! ^^'
also a fusion of the infinity art style & asset from H2A & Halo 4 aren't being kept together & it's inefficient!
i'd like to see if the files can be transfer-ed between H2A multiplayer & Halo 4's multiplayer's to see ported.
with the game engines the same, copying & porting maps, weapons, vehicles, objects, skins & assets would do.
you can tell who's clocks are off from the debug text in the middle of the screen
26:46 Halo 2 was doing T-Pose before it was even a meme
Is this loss?
What would a Halo 2 Game made out of the Stencil Engine look like?
I hope those real life things have gotten better, mister. Dope video
Since the link in the description is dead here is a new link that has alpha and beta with dlc drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ZaxEp9W5h5BA4OuaqpS5NBiHFy7UTeUM
Youre a hero, thank you
@@tulio.guitar np!
Updated the link in the description to use this one.
@@TheVengefulVadam thx!
What are the double hex number strings in the halo 2/halo 3 alpha/beta builds for? (The alphanumeric strings next to the ammo counter)
I want to know this too and nobody has asked about it and I couldn’t find an answer online
Man, I want the build of the E3 2003 Campaign demo to leak onto the internet.
This is a pretty cool alpha. Look at how far we've come
I wished that 343 would upload the files of the E3 demo of halo 2 to the halo community so people can explore.
Do you think it will ever be possible to get our hands on an alpha still running Halo 2 stencil engine? Or was the game still too early in dev to even be playable in a alpha build?
Too early in dev, as far as I know the E3 demo was completely scripted and might have actually been pre-constructed
Awesome work, Vengeful. But, I think you missed an important thing about the reloading. You can actually slightly speed up the reloading speed by meleeing, just like in CE. If you try to reload and melee before the reload animation completes in Halo 2, you don't get back your bullets. However, in CE and the Alpha, you get back your bullets if you melee as soon as you see the clip get into the gun.
The thing is, that’s not always true. A lot of the Melee animations take forever in the alpha, like basically all the human weapons. With the BR especially, you’re better off just letting the reload finish.
The Vengeful 'Vadam Oh, right.. It's still an interesting remnant from CE though in my opinion. Try the Brute Shot. It increases reload speed quite a bit. For the other weapons, it's situation dependent I guess. Imagine a close situation where that could save you. You melee your opponent right when you see the clip enter the gun, then you' re immediately ready to shoot some more, since you already have a full clip. Unless meleeing is really useless in the Alpha? I haven't exactly tested it outside of a single player environment.
26:16
You were killed by GOD
@15:10, I find that incredibly hilarious.
I've noticed my halo 2 alpha build only has burial mound? Edit: idk what I did but all them maps load now my bad lol
T POSING ON A TANK
Wow the shields are really yellow.
With some polish this would've been better than the Halo 2 we got.
Gerson Zelaya only if you like guns that shoot popcorn, huge aim assist and overpowered melee that has lunge
This was an awesome video! I love looks at these kinds of builds. It’s amazing how much stuff gets changed or cut in game development.
28:05 woody's dialogue from toy story
Lol. Very clever
Nice and early
Wow I’ve always thought the wraith had the feel of it’s charged shot. So much cleaner and efficient than it’s final version.
"There are those who said this day would never come. What are they to say now?"
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THAT is how you take responsibility. That is commendable, that is someone you want on your team. I respect the heck outta you, Vengeful 'Vadam.
This may be a dumb question but how do you actually access the "Shared" map? I got this Alpha running, but can't figure it out.
This was a really cool look back on the development of Halo 2!
Damn I got owned by you enough times in this video :D
Can't wait for the full game to come out
23:20 funny over exaggerating shake
27:46🤣🤣🤣
Mah boi veggie 💕💕 I love this content yo, I appreciate the work you put into this
Thanks Nivi! :D
Awesome videos, can't believe I only just found this channel.
Didn't bother to re-stretch the UI+anamorphic 720x480 to widescreen I see.
14:25 Reminds me of Destiny 2 third person.
Hey, does anybody know how to play the alpha and beta? Downloaded the files and have no idea what to do know.
Amazing video bro, I subbed!
I feel like the unused campaign images hidden in the alpha would've made a neat addition to this video, but overall you did a great job Vadam. Nice to have you uploading again!
8:08 a feature later added into Halo 5: Guardians
Annnnnnd ruined
15:01 Same thing in Halo 3 if you die.
I've gotten revenge kills that way.
Why do they tolerate those that are less than fitting to the criteria of moderator!?
You sound like a mix between Mr. Nightmare and Unit #522 lol.
To think Halo 2 will be 20 years old this year
Nice video! Thanks for the great content :) But i wounder when will your full SPV3.1 review come?
I’m gonna wait until SPV3.2 drops, which should be sometime soon, actually.
Wow, nice! Can't wait :)
To be fair, Gamecube was a shit console. XD
Please keep the old one up. It was one of the coolest analysis videos out there, along with its series for the 3 halos
You might be talking about the Halo 2 Beta Analysis, which I plan to keep up. The vid I took down was about the alpha videos that Toxzin posted.
Is the alpha download for PC or Console? And if its pc are you able to play with a controller?
Careful Giraffe pc
Careful Giraffe and no probably not
Hey Private Alpha was my gamertag
Remember man irl comes first, I'll always be waiting here.
Yo Vadam van you do some stuff on the MCC stuff
I really wanna play this. Where can I download it?
Check the description. Download link is there.
Please help, I transfered the game via FTP, I can run it, but when I trying to "bypass" the code pressing A button, it doesn't do anything, just says "go to the Xbox dashboard?" I already downloaded the game on your link given below. Sorry if I made mistakes with my English :p.
Edit:Just run the patched .xbe file, by searching on a file explorer
Jajaja apenas me doy cuenta que apareci en el min 13:05
Halo 2 Alpha = Halo CE Expansion DLC
I always just sit around thinking what Halo 2 could've been if they were able to keep the "pstencil engine" and were given another year of development. The original bungie team were so ambitious and ahead of their time. I hope one day we get access to the original halo 2 in its pstencil engine state. Also the E3 2000 halo ce demo would be great to get our hands on too.
so some of the alpha object models could be imported into CE.
okay.. halo custom editions are relatively similar to alphas, betas
& a CEA comparison could be interesting. as for Halo 2 Anniversary,
I'd like to Forge power weapon objects back into alpha & beta locations.
Lockout? You mean the ghost map?
Tengo dos preguntas the Cat is under the table
That old Xbox article gave me fucking chills. I haven't been on that article in 14 years. All those old Xbox games that were new and were just releasing content on Xbox Live was just recent on that article. It's now 2018 and it feels like that it's right now that article is a time machine but it unfortunately its not😔
23:20
Did you say health packs at 10:25 ??
Shouts to the real OG's hunting for days on end in Burial Mounds to find the mongoose and super needler. Anyone remember the invisible walkway that leads you all the up the pizza cutter?
I wish they didn't remove health packs. Legendary wouldn't be so bullshit if they had kept it.