A friend pointed out a little detail I love. Unlike the outdated Galactica, the Pegasus has modern cyberwarfare suites that can take the place of point defense. If you watch closely, you can see Cylon missles arcing away from the Pegasus as their targeting systems are intercepted and compromised.
Another thing is, the Baseships are firing everything at Pegasus. That was a desperate move to remove the bigger threat, the one that was prepared for them, instead of a more squishy target like Galactica and remove some DPS of the battlefield
I was thinking the same thing too. Every time I see Battlestar Galactica with the Pegasus especially this episode, we went to a hotel just to watch this episode because are cable was turned off.
The effects are super, but I'd be more impressed if they had made them a little more scientifically accurate. C’mon, in a total vacuum with a leaking suit he’d be frozen instantly. The designers should have had the flight suits inflate upon entering a vacuum, to maintain the pressure inside the suit and prevent all of the pilot’s cells from exploding from the pressure imbalance - that is, if the body heat isn’t immediately sucked away first and the cells burst from the water content freezing (as they showed Cally after being airlocked by Tory).
@@joetoh6675 "C’mon, in a total vacuum with a leaking suit he’d be frozen instantly." No this is definitely not how it works in space, there's medium to conduct heat away efficiently. It would take a long time to lose all that heat. What you are proposing is sci-fi made up stuff, not what they showed.
The way Adama reacted to hearing that the Blackbird was hit reminds me of a story I've heard from the Great War. A French General, I believe it might have been Ferdinand Foch, learned that his own son had been killed in the offensive he had planned and was executing. He gave himself thirty minutes to grieve, composed himself, and then got back to work.
@@jonathanlee5314 yea E.J.O was perfect fit for the role of Adama. Visually as by his acting..... in my eyea he IS the best incarnation of this character.
As a spaceship nut, I was just frustrated that we spent so much of the battle looking at inexpensive shots of Lee, and then downright CHEAP shots of Lee in the water, complete with obvious reflection of the camera crane... But now I can appreciate the artistry of it (and how what we did get of the battle is some of the most incredibly beautiful space battle imagery in history). Shortly after this, they switched from outsourcing VFX work with Zoic studios to an in house VFX team, and the show just never looked as good again.
The Cylons were no match for the Colonial fleet in a straight-up fair fight. Even outnumbered Battlestars could take a beating. The story behind the show was so well thought out. It had a history that made you think it was real. The main reason it was so good.
@Fabian Kirchgessner no, 1 of the most and another that was the best 30 years earlier. Base stars had a massive weakness in only using missile technology and having no missile defense, the colonials would always win as flak fields would shoot down missiles and raiders and then base stars had nothing else to attack with.
@Fabian Kirchgessner still much better than the cylons with no missile defense. Also battlestars had other weapons so if missiles were shot down by raiders they would have other means of attack instead of the cylons not having any conventional weapons other than missiles.
@Fabian Kirchgessner ironicaly, the galactica was about to get retiered beffore the cylons attack. This just say how stupidly powerfull those ships are.
@Fabian Kirchgessner Technically the galactica wasn't "the most powerful". It was a Relic. But effective because of its outdated systems. Pegasus in the other hand, was top of the line. Their front guns obliterate a basestar in 2-3 salvos. And no surprise, the basestars were designed to work after crippling the normal operations of ships and worked more like bombardment positions than direct ship to ship.
One of the most beautiful space battles I've ever seen. The muffled sound of BSG's battles is so amazing, and the slow, methodical nature of everything fits perfectly. Cannon shells flying, curtains of flak, missiles impacting or getting intercepted, watching the ships slowly peel apart piece by piece and finally explode. Just perfectly done. I also love the fact that Pegasus is taking on sustained fire from TWO basestars and giving them both full broadsides in return. Just one of the most visually impressive battles in all of sci-fi, not to mention that beautiful music behind it.
@@GoLakers3900 Yeah, no sound would be boring, but the muffled sound was a reminder that there isn't sound in space. Kind of the best of both worlds. Also, if you're in a ship, you'd hear your ship firing even in the vacuum because vibration through the hull. No show is perfect, I didn't like Starbuck disappearing or the ending, but overall the show was good. If you don't like the show that much, why are you here?
@@beayn Was the camera view inside the ship that was firing??? Those were long shot fo the fight scene where we heard the "pew pew pew" sound. And what's this talk about having the best of both worlds? That's called science fiction. Pew pew pew. Mind as well watch Disney's Star Wars. Stop making dumb excuses and just say it's another Hollywood show. People like you talking like the BSG is soooo realistic...
@@GoLakers3900 I didn't say it's realistic, that's another discussion entirely. I'm saying it's impressive cinematically, visually, etc. Trust me, I've got problems with the show too, but I was just commenting on how great this particular scene is. Chill out.
@@GoLakers3900 lol 😂 you are so angry about it. Dude, just go away to another channel where you can find something that is completely physically accurate and possible, which is also boring. This is sci-fi, it CAN be inaccurate, this isn’t a fracking documentary. So chill man, or just leave if you think this is so ridiculous. Why would you be wasting your time in first place 🤷♂️ 🤦♂️
It occurs that human cylons dying on board the base stars would be coming back to life in the resurrection ship, only to be then killed again shortly afterwards.
Lol The next death was permanent. They said they hated dying but were fascinated what real death was like, because the hybrids always uttered poetic lines about it.
In this history of either version of Battlestar Galactica, nothing demonstrated just exactly how formidable a Battlestar really was better than this episode.
This battle showed what they could dish out, but the Battle of New Caprica showed what they could take. Though I much, much prefer the cinematography of this one ✌
A Battlestar was basically like a battleship with an air wing. Even today, an Iowa-class battleship would obliterate ANY enemy ship within the range of its guns -- and with missiles even further away.
@@WilfredIvanhoe Although true, when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor their real targets where the carriers. They just happened not to be in port at the time because they failed to realize one thing. When tensions are high, carriers are at sea. Ships such as the Arizona were targeted because they were available targets. By the end of the war Japan didn't even want to send any heavy ships to sea, because regardless of their combat capabilities, they were still sitting ducks to the allies fleet options. But to be fair, a battlestar is a carrier and a battleship. It was designed to take on both roles. The two side wings served two purposes. landing bays for the fighters and platforms for their main weapons. By putting them on the wings, you make the wings the key target in a attack and not the core parts of the ship. And that was the thing also about the battlestars. They were floating repair stations in space. If you follow the logic of the literature produced about them, the bulk of their size was devoted to repair and production facilities. If given enough raw resources they each could build replacements for anything lost. Could they build a complete battlestar? That question was never addressed as it was impractical to do so while fleeing the cylons. But I really do think, if given enough resources and left stationary, a battlestar could in fact build its own replacement if given enough time. It is like the military in WW2. Every base and every structure was mirror images of themselves in the US. Why? because the construction units all had the same plans to build from. A barracks built in England would be identical to a barracks built in The Philippines. Same logic applies with battlestars. If you need to replace an I-beam, and you can produce it, what is preventing you from connecting several I-beams together and making the backbone of another battlestar?
If I recall, in both 1978 & 2003 BSG versions, the battlestars do not use forcefield shields overall, they mainly use physical armor, of which this armor can take the brunt of kinetic bombardment, although only for so long. It cannot regenerate the armor, much like what a forcefield could possibly do in some other brandname sci-fi stories (eg. Star Trek). In the original 1978 version, the battlestar fleet during the initial invasion was destroyed through sheer numbers & strength of the Cylons, while the fleet in the 2003 version was invaded & destroyed firstly through infiltration of their computer network. The reimagined Pegasus also had electronic shields, which I believe is a form of jammer. Anyway, after many years of rumors, we are all still waiting for BSG version 3.0, under Sam Esmail & Derek Simonds, which seems to be getting closer, but it is hard to tell how far along they are, or not far along at all. I still have my plastic scale model Colonial Viper that I put together back in 1979, heh. 07/07/24
One of the things i loved about BSG's battles was that they really understood how to use the full 360 movement that zero gravity afforded. The turns the Vipers were doing were sick
Both literally and figuratively. Not sure most of the space combat scenes are survivable with those g-forces (oh yeah, forget about the cylons, just basic ACM). I recall some video in the past where someone calculated the g-forces based on the description of the performance of the viper when Starbuck was CAG and teaching the “nuggets” about the viper. From those, didn’t seem to need an enemy, since people would be smeared across the instrument panel. I’m willing to suspend disbelief if they had a mcguffin (like most shows use “inertial dampeners”), but they don’t and just sort of hand wave with a “tough it out”…
Depends on the maneuver, a lot of the shots we see wouldn't actually be all that high G. For example: when they're strafing the res ship they are pointing their nose, but not thrusting against their primary vector significantly. It's also exceptionally hard to do an accurate calculation of G-forces from imagery, since we don't know how fast anything is truely going determining acceleration is equally tricky.
Agreed, it's so sad to see shows like Star Trek: Picard or large parts of Discovery being so lackluster in their special effects compared to these stunning and grounded CGI here.
I was talking to my dad about this. You can tell that while yes, these were people hired for a job, they were also clearly enthusiastic about what they were doing, and enjoyed it. Cgi today might be rendered better, but it doesn't have the same personal feel as this does.
Lee's position during the battle was an obvious use of the story of Ensign George H. Gay, who watched the WWII battle of Midway unfold from the water after his Devastator was shot down.
I know the story but I hadn't made the connection. That's a great insight. I've heard it said that military veterans consider this show to be a very realistic portrayal of military life even though it's set in an imaginary science fiction world.
@@Floodsye dude I'm a writer. I know how it works. sure, you can conjure up an amazing idea from the depths of your imagination, or you can find inspiration in an inspiring moment. And usually you'll find the idea already exists either in reality or in another person's creativity. No shame in that. We humans circle back to the same inspiring universal things.
and finally geting revenge for all of her fallen Sister who didnt had the Honour to at least go down guns blazing and the way Battlestars go down....in battle
@@Knuspermonster --- exactly. Ramming speed. Brace for impact. All yer bases belong to US! All yer bases belong to US! All yer bases belong to US! All yer bases belong to US! All yer bases belong to US! All yer bases belong to US! All yer bases belong to US! All yer bases belong to US! All yer bases belong to US.....
A befitting comment. Must've been a bittersweet moment for her to see herself decommissioned (as a museum, of all things, as if that wasn't enough message to say to her "you're a relic") after complying with her role. But then like a retired soldier that receives a personal call back to arms, being told "Forget your decommission, we got a job to do". To me that's the moment when Galactica shone the most. It's like she said "Ready when you are, partner" to Adama and outperformed even her younger, ruthless sister. To me it was a manner for her to say "thank you for not giving up on me yet". Then this is the second battle where she shone the most. It was like her spirit reignited, and said "It's payback time" to the basestars and "I'll show you how it was done in my prime" to Pegasus. The last battle where she shone, and the one it was the brightest was the final one. It's like she knew she was aging and when the time came she didn't say "So this is it..." Rather it's like she said to Adama herself: "How about one last showdown, partner?".
This was one of the best shot battles in the show. It also made so much sense and fit flawlessly into the plot. The colonial ships far outmatched the cylons in a fair fight. Seeing the colonial force, now two ships strong, make a calculated offensive against the enemy on their terms was great. The minimal casualties also makes sense with the plot, once again, the basestars were no match for the battlestars in a broadside engagement.
it's actually because the cylons didn't learn from their mistake. Although hunting the enemy with hundreds of fighters is good idea. Carriers are easily hunted unless they are supported by other ships. Cylon basestars should have at least had better protection.
@@nowayman1406 Modern Basestars were built under the assumption that the Cylon capital ship force would only need to be a fighter logistics support platform and a missile delivery system to destroy helpless Colonial ships and nuke planets from orbit. Any other capabilities (better Armor, kinetic weapons, etc) were likely deemed superfluous to need during the design phase. In short, the Cylons were putting all of their eggs in the Colonial Mainframe Virus basket, and designed their entire military around the assumption that they would have that key advantage in every engagement of the coming holocaust. In short, they wound up being as shortsighted as their own creators, in their own unique way.
@@kresnik_ss you really underestimate the newer battlestars, dude. ships like the mercury class trumped the cylon basestars in every way, except maybe fighter capacity (which was offset by much higher fighter quality) jump range and resurrection (for obvious reasons). without the cnp, the colonial fleet wouldve curbstomped the cylons. youre talking about hundreds of battlestars in mass engagements here. plus, the logistical support of 12 worlds, as opposed to the cylons one colony. its not a question of if, but when the colonials would have won. also, the comparison with destroyers doesnt really work. basestars, when they have to fight themselves, still do it at ranges where they are very much susceptible to enemy fire. destroyers today launch their missiles from sometimes thousands of kilometers away. itd be more fitting to say that its a carrier with guns going up against a battleship with a flightdeck.
@@kresnik_ss it may technically have had hundreds of launchers, but they couldnt all be utilized simultaneously, as they were placed on opposing sides of the arms for example. youre talking about maybe a third of the launchers actually being used at any one time. which, admittedly, couldve been solved by simply spinning the baseships, but eh. also, remember the battle at ragnar anchorage from the mini series. the flak field that galactica projects alone had a range of several kilometers, while its main batteries later in the series struck the cylon basestars even beyond that. ill freely admit that the cylons had the advantage as far as information was concerned. their agents had infiltrated colonial society to a fatal level. im not disputing that the fall was inevitable. but we are talking about a hypothetical match up here, where both factions go toe to toe in a conventional war, so some liberties have to be taken. if were just comparing the factions on that level, the way i see it is this: the cylons had a much smaller fleet than the colonials, about one third if i remember correctly. the ships of said fleet were not designed for battle, but to effectively nuke the colonial worlds and fleets, so focus wasnt put on diversified armaments or particular resilience to enemy fire. further, the cylons had only their one colony and probably a few mining operations and a shipyard plus a few outposts here and there (this is pure extrapolation, because in 40 years they had to have built their fleet and mined the necessary materials somewhere after all). on the other hand you have the colonial fleet, which was made up of 120 battlestars (canonically anyway, but practically there had to have been more due to the sheer amount of battlestar groups already) plus smaller combat vessels, like cruisers, battleships, escorts, and so on and so forth. plus the colonial reserves. battlestars were designed with heavy armor and effective artillery, plus sustainability for limited durations of time. battlestars could manufacture their own ammunition from mined materials, and the newer models could even build entire vipers. they had training facilities for pilots as well. battlestars carried ground troops and equipment as well, making them viable to support ground invasions. they were resistant to hacking attempts, and the newer models employed modern technology and it infrastructure to wage war as well. they fielded large viper wings and point defense systems. they were designed to withstand extensive punishment. it took several minutes of uninterrupted punishment from several cylon basestars to destroy even an old jupiter class. when the cylons fought galactica, they stayed out of range because they werent a match for a ship designed for actual blow for blow battles. and now add in the sheer resources at the disposal of the colonial fleet. mining companies, wartime industry, scientists researching better ways to kill cylons and defend against them, constant recruitment lines and new forces to throw into the fray, munitions depots, constant resupply and superior knowledge of terrain because its literally their hometurf and they can fight on their terms, likely extensive satellite networks and monitoring stations, heavily armed outposts throughout the cyrannus system, its really no match. in a conventional war, the cylons would probably be able to inflict some heavy losses through the surprise element and being underestimated by the colonials at first, they could cause great damage on the planets and on the ships with their hidden agents, but ultimately it wouldnt be enough. the models would be discovered and rounded up, and at the end of the day the colonial fleet and the 12 colonies are too big a job for the cylons. they would rebound and that would be the end of it. its as if during the independence movement, america didnt stop at throwing out the brits, but instead tried to attack england itself in retaliation. you cant battle a faction that large if youre that small. unless youre really good, and the cylons werent. not where it matters in a conventional war.
Gawd, after two seasons of the Colonials on the backfoot it's hard to describe how pleasurable it is to see two basestars get absolutely ripped to shreds
@@GoLakers3900 so, you concede that at no point did I argue this, in fact, was not a show? Where is it implied that I am anything but relaxed in my remarks?
@@themc.kennyshow6585 There wasn't really a point. And the production facilities aboard the Pegasus were better used for recuperating the Viper and Raptor losses the Galactica suffered.
@@Mobius_118 They could have built a new one. It didn't seem like it took much resources to build one. It doesn't make sense to not make even just 1. I think it was just too powerful against the Cylons that the writers had write it out of the story.
As a Star Wars nerd, it kills me that Star Wars never had a single space battle in Episodes 7, 8, or 9 that was this purely awesome. Even with a zillion times the budget and 15-20 years newer tech. One of the most perfect, kinetic, impactful, awesome space combat scenes this lifelong sci-fi nerd has ever seen. I've re-watched countless times.
1:10 the professionalism in that moment is kind of both surreal but strangely realistic. A true lifelong soldier would react the same way. Now if Lee were dead, he would have his breakdown after everything in his privacy. Maybe Saul sees it. Maybe. But the crew in the middle of a battle. Nope. 'My son might be dead. See if he ejected, back to business'
One of the underrated features of BSG is the Battlestar artillery. The muzzle velocity that those projectiles must be travelling at, in space, is just an awesome visual.
One of my favorite parts of the show was that they averted the sci-fi trope of laser weapons. Besides the artificial gravity and FTL travel, everything was grounded in familiar territory.
Even though these were looking like Apollo's last moments... It must have been magnificent to see these two Battlestars circling that BaseStar like two great white sharks investigating their next meal.
This was based on a real pilot shot down during the Battle of Midway who was able to watch the destruction of the Japanese carriers from the water. He had a prime vantage point.
These episodes and this battle alongside the battle for the Tylium asteroid perfectly encapsulate Battlestar Galactica. You have three or four plot arcs running concurently with and being dependent on the battle you are watching. The tension keeps you constantly on the edge of your seat.
You would think a patch kit would have been in one of those pockets on that suit seeing as how if the suit were in a situation in which the pilot would rely on its protection would likely involve an ejection and possible suit damage.
Oh yeah. Hell, even Gundam makes a point of having emergency sealant tape in a separate pocket on every vac suit for fixing punctures, cuts and faceplate cracks, and we do actually see it used multiple times.
How did Pegasus, a newer-model battlestar, get around it? I imagine they found some sort of counter. The theme of hacking the enemy's central fire-control system is something I encountered as far back as 1979 in Stewart Cowley's book "Great Space Battles", where the Lagunans do it to the Terrans (humans). It's not as critical in that story because the humans still have plenty of ships and the homeworlds aren't threatened, but the tactical problem is identical. The human response is simple but effective - go back to the boneyards and reserve hangars for older ships that have no central control to hack. I'd love to see it made as a film or miniseries; the danger is that some idiot might think they were plagiarizing BSG 2004, instead of the other way around.
Colonials: Exactly. The thought that those frakking toasters nearly wiped us out and force us to keep on running all the while makes this battle of us tearing them apart even more beautiful.
@ Lovely, the guy just wanted to express his dedication to the show. Did it good or bad, nvm, you still had to pull him down, right. Because a homo sapiens cannot be a homo sapiens without feeling better over somebody else. Guess it made your day better, huh? P.S. You sure your surname is written with "e", not "u"?
I love the scene at 3:25 where Galactica is really letting loose with all its guns, broadsiding the Basestar while the point defence takes out the Cylon missiles. Such a great animation which has withstood time!
This is probably one of the best fight scenes I've ever seen in sci-fi. The entire battle is actually based on the very real Battle Of Midway during WW2. In the battle a reconnaissance pilot was shot down and watched the entire battle while floating on the ocean. The Battle Of Midway, just like this one, was the turning point in the war in the pacific that helped the United States defeat the Axis powers in the Pacific theater. Well done, 5 stars, emotional and epic.
For a show that is really old, the logical science fiction here is astounding! This show uses zero space tactics as Vipers drift sideways and can strafe. You never see these laws applied in star wars linear space battles. Imagine a tie fighter just doing a drift 180 degree rotation to shoot backwards at a pursuing X-Wing
Imagine if all of these technologically advanced sci-fi futures had rear facing weapons that were controlled by computer? Why are people still "flying" around with front mounted guns and having to aim/fire manually?
Let’s be generous. BSG/ST/SW are different universes. The totality of comparing them is irrelevant; the only comparison is what you personally believe and that to no other.
Space: Above and Beyond and Babylon 5 did far more than BSG did and they were years before the BSG Reboot. I think each show has its pros and cons when it comes to its tech. Each one a different flavor. I don't think one does better than another over all. They each appeal differently. B5 had good ship design, stayed loyal to the 'no artifical gravity magic unless you're aliens', and had good fighter concepts and combat in 3D space. S:AB had good designs that were semi realistic (like a box shaped carrier) and realistic weapons for the most part. BSG used technically sound tactile combat, even used Electronic Warfare but it's ship designs were pure art and nothing too realistic. So the writing was 'realistic' for the setting (modern combat mashed with ww2 inspired combat for convention systems). The variety that was done back then in the 90s thru early 2000s was amazing. These days people are freaking out about 'The Expanse' but for me I want a B5 mashed with BSG that dabbles with OLD Star Trek political intrigue and philosophical problem solving.
Even after all these years, this is still one of the best space battles ever created. Everything from the direction of the action to the amazing soundtrack.
and the reason is surprisingly simple: we can follow it. the battlestars are all understood by us way more than any other ship in any other combat ever (maybe the enterprise come close, but even that was just a bridge and a holodeck mostly.) we even understand the basestars as weapns better than most hero ships, and the resurrection ship is also clear and obvious. than the small number if big ships makes it clear what happens, not just visual noise and pew-pew, even the fighters are in limited numbers, mostly piloted by actual characters we all know, ever call in has actual meaning, not just some bs. and of course, we all know the meaning of the battle, not just two fleet meet and than fight happens, both side has costs and consequences. compare this to the most common way of battles: blobs of ships doing who knows what and why?
Every Season of the show was nominated for Outstanding Visual Effects Emmy's and it actually won them twice even got 1 for sound editing one year. Shame it never got nominations for the acting, but the Emmy's hate Sci-Fi.
I love this scene for so many reasons; one being that it reveals why the Cylons had no other choice but to use their "surprise attack" strategy to beat the Colonials. Just one modern Battlestar and a "clunker" in support with minimal resources and nowhere near full capacity flight wings and it's a walk in the park for the Colonials against 2 fully loaded Basestars and a Ressurection Ship. Almost felt sorry for the Cylons by the end of it. I imagine old Jamie Bamber was hanging around in front of a blue screen when filming those scenes floating through space... Just imagine recreating this scene today... in "The Volume" stage they use for The Mandalorian. It would be.... interesting. 😎
@Fabian Kirchgessner Yes; extremely powerful ships which I think is why a toe-to-toe fight was always a lost cause for the Cylons. But I would say at New Caprica, the battle was Galactica and her birds alone for the most part and they seemed confident in dealing with 2 Basestars. It was only then the Cylons got reinforcements that Adama realised they couldn't handle 4 Basestars. I imagine if the Colonial situation was not so desperate then they would have organised a joint strike using both Galactica and Pegasus as they did with the Ressurection ship. If Adama thought a skeleton crew Galactica could handle 2 Basestars then a joint strike with Pegasus can surely pick up the other 2. As it turned out, Galactica barely escaped destruction; but only because Lee jumped into the middle of the battle at the last minute. If they had always planned to do that then I think the outcome would have been very different.
@@matthewjohnson903 Haha! That's very interesting... since it was the skinjob Cylons arguing with each other that ultimately started their civil war and ended resurrection for good. Baltar was stirring it too when he had words with that one Centurion. If the mechanical Cylons got wise they would have just relentlessly kept cranking out more and more ships and Centurions until they simply overun the Colonials with their numbers. If Galactica outruns the raiders and missiles from 1 Basestar... how about 10 Basestars. How about 50... 😂😂
@@GoLakers3900 Haha. It's funny but this is probably the first show I watched without feeling any character escaped a situation because they had plot armour. Of course, they all have it or there wouldn't be a show... that season 1 cliffhanger still gets you good! 😂
@@matthewjohnson903 The question here is, at what point do the Cylons become the Slave Masters they were fighting against? They also seemed to have no idea what to do after they wped out humanity. Sure, they could have colonized the galaxy, even the universe, but what is the point? Even without resurrection technology, if they can avoid being destroyed, they are effectively immortal (as long as spare parts are available).
This goes to show if the colonials had a chance to fight back they would of wiped the floor with the cylons provided they still went with this style of basestar . A coordinated attack plan even with just two colonial ships instead of the full battlestar groups is devastating to the cylons .
@Fabian Kirchgessner honestly i disagree. After the first cylon war the colonies knew the targets , tactics and supply lines of the cylons . they also had far superior weaponry and with actual defence fleets i think the cylons would of been decimated . The issues the colonials had in the first war was it was a suprise and the colonial fleets where still taking shape and relied on alot of old vessles from when the colonies fought each other .
@Fabian Kirchgessner im interested in the 1st world war bcs honestly the design of the cylon ships seems like it was made for this one attack and not for fighting battlestars. So im pretty sure the colonial fleet could have dealt with the cylon basestars quite easily actually. The cylons are heavily reliant on missiles which can be destroyed before hitting target which the battlestars often did throughout the series. The cylon basestars would have stood a chance.
@@sirkuchen1501 If you are interested in the 1st war, there's a turn-based strategy game called BSG:Deadlock, which is somewhat fully canon, let you play out how the 1st cylon war went and why they fought into a stalemate. The writing wouldn't be as good as the show, but the visual and gameplay aspect 100% matches the CGI in the show.
@@hellstromcarbunkle8857 Yeah, but they're only replaceable as long as the Colonials don't start targeting Resurrection facilities and the relatively defensless Resurrection Ships. And judging by how easily the Resurrection Hub was destroyed by a single rebel Basestar, I can't imagine how fast it would be over if an entire Colonial Battlestar Group decided to hit it. Plus, neither of the Battlestars present are at full strength. Galactica is missing most of its crew, armaments, armor, a Flight Pod, and a majority of its full air wing since it was in the process of being decomissioned. Pegasus is also lacking in its air wing and crew since it was in dry dock when the Cylons attacked the shipyards and it was forced to make an emergency jump. That being said, it's likely that the Cylons would focus development on ships more akin to those seen during the First Cylon War (like those seen in Deadlock) which were more durable and had a decent amount of survivability compared to modern Basestars.
Oh, lots of Star Wars' battles were more epic in terms of number of combatants, etc. BUT, they weren't as well thought-out or presented. BSG and The Expanse run away with THAT prize.
Like all of BSG'04, there are several story lines masterfully layered into a single scene. So much being told at the same time. And the writing was done very much on the fly.
Tried watching the expanse. The battles there are insanely exciting and tense especially since they ships experience inertia so the crew need to be strapped in and every change in direction is felt with the body experiencing very high Gs... Search " Rocinante saves RazorBack"
Too OP They should have done something that has been done in FreeSpace 1 and 2 The terrans captured shivan fighters and used them for recon missions behind enemy lines
The stealth blackbird was cool but i didnt liked at all that they could create a stealth ship "accidentally".. I mean they litterally had to use carbon composite panels to do the fuselage.. and then they said "oh it sure will be hard to see on dradis" like a total aftertought.. and then it turns it was a massive strategic asset capable of sneaking in the middle of Cylon fleets totally undetected.. if its as simple as coating a ship in carbon panels wich also are aparently much easier to find and produce than regular alloys why they didnt made a few stealth ships for tactical/inteligent porpouses? because after the Blackbird is lost they never ever again bring the topic back.. It would be if today some poor country has to make a plane out of foam board or EPP and it turns out to be stealth accidentally capable of sneaking into heavily defended airspaces
Having been in the US Navy, Ronald D. Moore likely based Apollo's predicament on the real life of Ensign George H. Gay Jr. at the Battle of Midway where after being the only survivor of his entire squadron of 30 men, sat in the water for over an entire day watching three of the four enemy Japanese aircraft carriers being sunk in front of him with a front row seat until he was rescued. Plus it gives a great POV of the battle.
Seeing both ships shred the basestars was really satisfying, considering in the miniseries, the basestars seemed so formidable and almost impossible to hurt
Apollo drifting in space watching the battle was inspired by Ensign George Gay, an American pilot who was shot down during the Battle of Midway and watched the battle while being stranded in the ocean.
Most satisfying sci-fi battle, together with the advancing Starfleet - Klingon coalition forces in the late stages of the Dominion war (remember two Galaxy class cruisers ripping holes into a Galor class ship, just EPIC). And that’s just two Battlestars. Imagine the Colonial fleet intact and unleashing the fury of all Battlestars onto the fragile Cylon Basestars.
Michelle Forbes is just so amazing in this role as captain of The Pegasus. BTW ... Check her out in 2023 in the third season of "Picard" as she resumes her role as "Ro Laren," one of the best characters TNG ever produced!
This show is just as great today as it was the first time it was aired. It is one of my all time favorite sci-fi show. I find myself going back to it and watching the series over and over. I know this show is not that old but they just dont make them like this anymore.
I know your comment is a year old, but check out 'The Expanse', either the books or the show. Babylon 5, BSG and The Expanse are all spectacular in their own right.
I agree. The Expanse also, did an amazing job of battles. As for Babylon 5, it was ok, but the cgi was a bit ropey in my opinion. The Expanse however would stand up to the battle effects of BSG.
Oh for sure! I mean B5 will be 30 years old next year, so it's certainly quite dated back in an era when big budget TV series weren't really a thing. So all things considered, not too shabby. But anytime a Starfury was on screen I was happy! @@Bazbat01
I binge this series every 3-4 years.. the extended episodes and a lot of the deleted scenes are worth owning the blu-rays for! I hope some day they spend the money on new transfers, but I doubt that will ever happen.
Newtons first law of gravity on scene here when they blow the ship up. The fighters continue moving in one direction even after turning laterally. Love the realism in Sci-Fi.
Not only was this the best written sci Fi show ever, but in if the best written TV shows ever. At a time when the Sci Fi channel was horrible production value this was top notch cinematic production value.
I haven't forgotten. I often tell people it was one of the greatest shows ever on Television. IMHO, the 3 greatest shows were: Sopranos, Game of Thrones and Battlestar Galactica. Funny thing, I've watched Sopranos and BSG probably 3 times each from start to finish (replayed them). But I can't make it all the way through Thrones for some reason. (Maybe because the last 2 seasons were so lame compared to the previous seasons. Dunno. I can't quite put my finger on it.) But BSG, I can watch again every few years. That says a lot about it.
I used to be at the bar talking to girls and I would look at my watch. 9:30. "Sorry girls I gotta go, battlestars on in a half hour." Best tv show ever.
Part 1: Battlestar Galactica is the best science fiction series out there. Star Wars has a billion-dollar budget, awesome special effects and a lame story.
@@AntonioCarlos-ii6yw Disney star wars is garbage, books however are amazing. and they hit the imagination hard. (although this show is incredible as well)
This sequence and the destruction of the Resurrection Hub were the most visually impressive scenes in the show's run (the glitch in the Hub explosion aside). The way the sad music kicked in when the Cylon bodies floated off into space struck me the first time round as well.
I loved that we got an epic space battle between humanity and the cylons but behind the action humans are still plotting to destroy one another (Adana vs cain).
Half the reason that Humanity was fighting the Cylons was because the Cylons attacked... the other half was that nobody kills Humans apart from other Humans.
This is the best ever Sci-Fi series, there’s something about the intensely emotional nature of it that is truly exceptional. Either the manual phones, the unique light, its environment of wandering and survival, it’s fascinating!
That's a plot hole, but excused for it is used to give us a great scene of Lee watching the battle from the front row and then his "passing" under water. Both a physical condition and a soul journey. That's what makes the show great, the layers and how they are exemplarily well thought out and integrated in one another. All made possible by the fact that colonial engineers "forgot" to invent a standard repair kit for a leak like that.
who ever was working on these effects was having a blast, pun intended, you can really see the effort to make it look realistic but still entertaining.
Легендарные страницы культового сериала! Очень хочется забыть всё и пересмотреть с самого начала, но как можно забыть эту очень реалистичную и трагичную историю, может быть нашего далекого прошлого.... Создателей сериала и всех кто в этом учувствовал... благодарю за то, что вы это создали!
Why do the artillery shells from both the galactica and pegasus look way better than star wars turbolasers or star trek phaser. With the KW's from the battlestars you can actually feel the raw power behind these weapons.
Well they ARE kinetic energy projectiles like APFSDS Turbolasers are just... plasma turrets and Phaser are just wave of sound being concentrated to the point it deal damage
Colonial Battlestars were like US Warships in WW2, designed to take a beating and keep fighting. The Pegasus was not destroyed by the Cylons, Lee used it as a weapon.
Not to mention Galactica rotted away long before the Cylons destroyed her. Makes me wonder if the other Battlestars back in colonies could somehow be repaired and put back in the fight,
@@thesparduck117 im pretty sure it would be possible to repair some of the less damaged BS but the problem is that there are no facilitys to do that anymore (beside Ragnar probably). Also you would need to get them of the grid via blind jump...... so you need a working FTL for that plan to work
For me, the BEST remake of the history.... This serie high the valor of the galáctica series to the podium with star Trek , and star wars...in My opinión..
One thing that I think it's a very simple continuity mistake no pocket for emergency suit patches in case a suit takes a puncture or a rip other than that this was perfect., in terms of the acting, cinematography ., and OMG the music in this scene was like a character itself if they ever decide to do a reboot or a spinoff... Please by the gods themselves let bear McCreary do the music
plot puncture.. im pretty sure the colonial survival pack must contain patches or some kind of anaerobic glue that can seal off such damage (they had those in Gary Anderson's UFO in the 60s)
When Lee is looking at the battle sitting in his chair has to be one of the greatest shots ever, and it was made for a fucking TV show in like 2005. You could put that shot in a modern series released tomorrow and it would still look fantastic.
The only other space battle that comes close to this is from the Expanse when the Rocinante and OPA attack Thoth station and defeat the stealth ship. They are both very different battles though - capital ships and their air wings vs a fairly small scale engagement but lots of moving elements and time pressure.
i think the Roci vs Marco's three ships in the final season was the best space combat sequence ever filmed. The one with the 180 degree railgun shots and Bobbie figuring out how to beat them by shooting PDC rounds into the space where she knows they are going to dodge. just such an amazing scene nothing beats this right here for drama though
Wasn't that the point? That the Cylons no longer being able to throw endless reserves at the problem was a basis for potentially ending the war? Remember, the Cylons aren't exactly acting as a unified front by the end.
Anyone notice they play the same music almost every time one of the Adamas almost die? They use it for: - Adama getting shot - Lee almost dying after ejecting - The Galactica almost getting destroyed right before the Pegasus shows up
I understood Lee stopping to attempt to plug the hole in his suit and just let himself go. After all the stress and fatigue finally caught up with him.
They spent an entire episode building the Blackbird, and then destroyed it two episodes later and it was never mentioned again. Were the writers worried they made a fighter too powerful for the show?
The Blackbird was built at a time when things were looking really bad for Galactica, her older Mark II vipers had been in constant use either in battle or patrol. They were showing their age and lack of maintenance and spare parts. The Blackbird was built out of Tyrol's frustration, and the rest of the crew joined in. When Pegasus arrived, they now had the capability to build new Mark VII vipers
@@kurtvond1798 That is true, but a stealth fighter equipped with a jumpdrive and able to carry missiles would be a very valuable tactical asset. Imagine arming the Blackbird with nuclear-tipped missiles (the same ones used to destroy the Resurrection Hub) and using it for hit-and-run attacks against Cylon fleets. Also it was a perfect deep recon craft.
A friend pointed out a little detail I love. Unlike the outdated Galactica, the Pegasus has modern cyberwarfare suites that can take the place of point defense. If you watch closely, you can see Cylon missles arcing away from the Pegasus as their targeting systems are intercepted and compromised.
Just a detail, I think it's called electronic warfare.
@@TehAntares can you tell me the tittle of the music where the breed ship is destroyed this music is wonderfull
Another thing is, the Baseships are firing everything at Pegasus. That was a desperate move to remove the bigger threat, the one that was prepared for them, instead of a more squishy target like Galactica and remove some DPS of the battlefield
@@TehAntares ECM = Electronic CounterMeasures
@@chrisstrijbosch9318 it's a variation of bloodshed from season 1
For a TV series from 2004, I don't think the VFX get enough credit. These really are outstanding.
The shaky cam doesn't get enough credit either.... ugh
I was thinking the same thing too. Every time I see Battlestar Galactica with the Pegasus especially this episode, we went to a hotel just to watch this episode because are cable was turned off.
The effects are super, but I'd be more impressed if they had made them a little more scientifically accurate. C’mon, in a total vacuum with a leaking suit he’d be frozen instantly. The designers should have had the flight suits inflate upon entering a vacuum, to maintain the pressure inside the suit and prevent all of the pilot’s cells from exploding from the pressure imbalance - that is, if the body heat isn’t immediately sucked away first and the cells burst from the water content freezing (as they showed Cally after being airlocked by Tory).
To have the gall to remake a cheesy 70's scifi series and turn it into this show, is beyond vfx.
@@joetoh6675 "C’mon, in a total vacuum with a leaking suit he’d be frozen instantly." No this is definitely not how it works in space, there's medium to conduct heat away efficiently. It would take a long time to lose all that heat. What you are proposing is sci-fi made up stuff, not what they showed.
The way Adama reacted to hearing that the Blackbird was hit reminds me of a story I've heard from the Great War. A French General, I believe it might have been Ferdinand Foch, learned that his own son had been killed in the offensive he had planned and was executing. He gave himself thirty minutes to grieve, composed himself, and then got back to work.
Adama is a model of professionalism and coolness under pressure. Loved the way the actor played the role
@@jonathanlee5314 yea E.J.O was perfect fit for the role of Adama. Visually as by his acting..... in my eyea he IS the best incarnation of this character.
Jefferson Davis had a young son who died during the American Civil War. He grieved for one day then went back to work.
@@jonathanlee5314 Your talking about LT. CASTILLO from Miami Vice mehn.
It was in fact Foch
The bit where Apollo is sinking into the water is legitimately the best visualisation of near death I've ever seen.
I feel like that alot of mornings from sleep apnea, same feel of drowning.
As a spaceship nut, I was just frustrated that we spent so much of the battle looking at inexpensive shots of Lee, and then downright CHEAP shots of Lee in the water, complete with obvious reflection of the camera crane...
But now I can appreciate the artistry of it (and how what we did get of the battle is some of the most incredibly beautiful space battle imagery in history).
Shortly after this, they switched from outsourcing VFX work with Zoic studios to an in house VFX team, and the show just never looked as good again.
I was pulseless for 7 minutes. This is exactly how it felt
Shout out to Dr. rob Meyer, Montefiore medical center
5:06 i love how you can see the pegasus jamming the incoming missiles and causing them to swerve off their course
That was the awesomeness of Pegasus, it’s electronic warfare capabilities matched a baseship. Sucks that she was sacrificed.
The Cylons were no match for the Colonial fleet in a straight-up fair fight. Even outnumbered Battlestars could take a beating. The story behind the show was so well thought out. It had a history that made you think it was real. The main reason it was so good.
@Fabian Kirchgessner no, 1 of the most and another that was the best 30 years earlier. Base stars had a massive weakness in only using missile technology and having no missile defense, the colonials would always win as flak fields would shoot down missiles and raiders and then base stars had nothing else to attack with.
@Fabian Kirchgessner still much better than the cylons with no missile defense. Also battlestars had other weapons so if missiles were shot down by raiders they would have other means of attack instead of the cylons not having any conventional weapons other than missiles.
@Fabian Kirchgessner ironicaly, the galactica was about to get retiered beffore the cylons attack. This just say how stupidly powerfull those ships are.
TBF, the Pegasus and Galactica represent the apex of Battlestar design for their respective eras.
@Fabian Kirchgessner Technically the galactica wasn't "the most powerful". It was a Relic. But effective because of its outdated systems. Pegasus in the other hand, was top of the line. Their front guns obliterate a basestar in 2-3 salvos.
And no surprise, the basestars were designed to work after crippling the normal operations of ships and worked more like bombardment positions than direct ship to ship.
One of the most beautiful space battles I've ever seen. The muffled sound of BSG's battles is so amazing, and the slow, methodical nature of everything fits perfectly. Cannon shells flying, curtains of flak, missiles impacting or getting intercepted, watching the ships slowly peel apart piece by piece and finally explode. Just perfectly done. I also love the fact that Pegasus is taking on sustained fire from TWO basestars and giving them both full broadsides in return.
Just one of the most visually impressive battles in all of sci-fi, not to mention that beautiful music behind it.
Agreed, I miss this show. It didn't last long enough.
@@GoLakers3900 Yeah, no sound would be boring, but the muffled sound was a reminder that there isn't sound in space. Kind of the best of both worlds. Also, if you're in a ship, you'd hear your ship firing even in the vacuum because vibration through the hull.
No show is perfect, I didn't like Starbuck disappearing or the ending, but overall the show was good. If you don't like the show that much, why are you here?
@@beayn Was the camera view inside the ship that was firing??? Those were long shot fo the fight scene where we heard the "pew pew pew" sound. And what's this talk about having the best of both worlds? That's called science fiction. Pew pew pew. Mind as well watch Disney's Star Wars. Stop making dumb excuses and just say it's another Hollywood show. People like you talking like the BSG is soooo realistic...
@@GoLakers3900 I didn't say it's realistic, that's another discussion entirely. I'm saying it's impressive cinematically, visually, etc.
Trust me, I've got problems with the show too, but I was just commenting on how great this particular scene is. Chill out.
@@GoLakers3900 lol 😂 you are so angry about it. Dude, just go away to another channel where you can find something that is completely physically accurate and possible, which is also boring. This is sci-fi, it CAN be inaccurate, this isn’t a fracking documentary. So chill man, or just leave if you think this is so ridiculous. Why would you be wasting your time in first place 🤷♂️ 🤦♂️
It occurs that human cylons dying on board the base stars would be coming back to life in the resurrection ship, only to be then killed again shortly afterwards.
Yes! Yes!
Oh no!
spawn camping
Lol The next death was permanent. They said they hated dying but were fascinated what real death was like, because the hybrids always uttered poetic lines about it.
Such a brilliant show
Spawn kill
In this history of either version of Battlestar Galactica, nothing demonstrated just exactly how formidable a Battlestar really was better than this episode.
Yep. Even galactica a 50 year old ship still ripped the Basestars to shreds.
This battle showed what they could dish out, but the Battle of New Caprica showed what they could take. Though I much, much prefer the cinematography of this one ✌
A Battlestar was basically like a battleship with an air wing.
Even today, an Iowa-class battleship would obliterate ANY enemy ship within the range of its guns -- and with missiles even further away.
@@WilfredIvanhoe Although true, when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor their real targets where the carriers. They just happened not to be in port at the time because they failed to realize one thing. When tensions are high, carriers are at sea. Ships such as the Arizona were targeted because they were available targets. By the end of the war Japan didn't even want to send any heavy ships to sea, because regardless of their combat capabilities, they were still sitting ducks to the allies fleet options.
But to be fair, a battlestar is a carrier and a battleship. It was designed to take on both roles. The two side wings served two purposes. landing bays for the fighters and platforms for their main weapons. By putting them on the wings, you make the wings the key target in a attack and not the core parts of the ship. And that was the thing also about the battlestars. They were floating repair stations in space. If you follow the logic of the literature produced about them, the bulk of their size was devoted to repair and production facilities. If given enough raw resources they each could build replacements for anything lost. Could they build a complete battlestar? That question was never addressed as it was impractical to do so while fleeing the cylons. But I really do think, if given enough resources and left stationary, a battlestar could in fact build its own replacement if given enough time. It is like the military in WW2. Every base and every structure was mirror images of themselves in the US. Why? because the construction units all had the same plans to build from. A barracks built in England would be identical to a barracks built in The Philippines. Same logic applies with battlestars. If you need to replace an I-beam, and you can produce it, what is preventing you from connecting several I-beams together and making the backbone of another battlestar?
If I recall, in both 1978 & 2003 BSG versions, the battlestars do not use forcefield shields overall, they mainly use physical armor, of which this armor can take the brunt of kinetic bombardment, although only for so long. It cannot regenerate the armor, much like what a forcefield could possibly do in some other brandname sci-fi stories (eg. Star Trek). In the original 1978 version, the battlestar fleet during the initial invasion was destroyed through sheer numbers & strength of the Cylons, while the fleet in the 2003 version was invaded & destroyed firstly through infiltration of their computer network. The reimagined Pegasus also had electronic shields, which I believe is a form of jammer. Anyway, after many years of rumors, we are all still waiting for BSG version 3.0, under Sam Esmail & Derek Simonds, which seems to be getting closer, but it is hard to tell how far along they are, or not far along at all. I still have my plastic scale model Colonial Viper that I put together back in 1979, heh.
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One of the things i loved about BSG's battles was that they really understood how to use the full 360 movement that zero gravity afforded. The turns the Vipers were doing were sick
Both literally and figuratively. Not sure most of the space combat scenes are survivable with those g-forces (oh yeah, forget about the cylons, just basic ACM). I recall some video in the past where someone calculated the g-forces based on the description of the performance of the viper when Starbuck was CAG and teaching the “nuggets” about the viper. From those, didn’t seem to need an enemy, since people would be smeared across the instrument panel. I’m willing to suspend disbelief if they had a mcguffin (like most shows use “inertial dampeners”), but they don’t and just sort of hand wave with a “tough it out”…
Depends on the maneuver, a lot of the shots we see wouldn't actually be all that high G. For example: when they're strafing the res ship they are pointing their nose, but not thrusting against their primary vector significantly. It's also exceptionally hard to do an accurate calculation of G-forces from imagery, since we don't know how fast anything is truely going determining acceleration is equally tricky.
They did the same at Babylon 5. The Star Fury were realy designed for 6D combat.
better than space combat is like airplanes bs in star wars
Let us pause a moment to mourn the loss of so many Tricia Helfers, Grace Parks, and Lucy Lawlesses. So much hotness, gone in a single instant.
Yes it was a bitter sweet moment seeing many thousands of Grace Parks and Lucy Lawlesses go to waste like that, such a sad sad day.
@@MrBlewvane Like tears in rain.
At least they died as they lived smoking hot 😎
@@gerryqq1nice
Best line in whole series went to Olmos' son as Hot Dog Costanza:
"How many dead chicks are out there?"
Anyone else love the scene of vipers and raptors drifting pass the resurrection ships windows, while firing into them.
my fav
Fully accurate zero-gravity/vacuum combat maneuvering. Love it.
Love how this "old show" is so far ahead of its time. Star wars never used such realism zero g logic like drifting Vipers.
Deja Vu
A realistic space scene. Newtons first law of gravity on screen.
@5:08 the detail on the missiles deing deflected is just insane. The CGi guys were really 300% on their jobs.
Agreed, it's so sad to see shows like Star Trek: Picard or large parts of Discovery being so lackluster in their special effects compared to these stunning and grounded CGI here.
I was talking to my dad about this. You can tell that while yes, these were people hired for a job, they were also clearly enthusiastic about what they were doing, and enjoyed it. Cgi today might be rendered better, but it doesn't have the same personal feel as this does.
seeing the cylons going to smashed in to space ohhhh shivvers
the name of the music where the ship is blown what music is that wonderfull the titel please
@@chrisstrijbosch9318 It's called Bloodshed it's the last track in season 1
Lee's position during the battle was an obvious use of the story of Ensign George H. Gay, who watched the WWII battle of Midway unfold from the water after his Devastator was shot down.
Yes that really happened he was picked up later by an American rescue plane.
I know the story but I hadn't made the connection. That's a great insight. I've heard it said that military veterans consider this show to be a very realistic portrayal of military life even though it's set in an imaginary science fiction world.
Sure...or just a similar idea by an artist. Not exactly a once in a lifetime idea.
@@Floodsye dude I'm a writer. I know how it works. sure, you can conjure up an amazing idea from the depths of your imagination, or you can find inspiration in an inspiring moment. And usually you'll find the idea already exists either in reality or in another person's creativity. No shame in that. We humans circle back to the same inspiring universal things.
@@dcbradfo657 How DARE you! Not in the yt comments. I come to this place to see feels, not feel feels, man.
Luv how shiny Galactica is in this.
It is almost as if she's glowing from joy, finally going on the offensive.
Doing what she was built to do.
and finally geting revenge for all of her fallen Sister who didnt had the Honour to at least go down guns blazing and the way Battlestars go down....in battle
@@Knuspermonster --- exactly.
Ramming speed.
Brace for impact.
All yer bases belong to US!
All yer bases belong to US!
All yer bases belong to US!
All yer bases belong to US! All yer bases belong to US! All yer bases belong to US! All yer bases belong to US! All yer bases belong to US! All yer bases belong to US.....
Shiny? Browncoat?
A befitting comment. Must've been a bittersweet moment for her to see herself decommissioned (as a museum, of all things, as if that wasn't enough message to say to her "you're a relic") after complying with her role. But then like a retired soldier that receives a personal call back to arms, being told "Forget your decommission, we got a job to do". To me that's the moment when Galactica shone the most. It's like she said "Ready when you are, partner" to Adama and outperformed even her younger, ruthless sister. To me it was a manner for her to say "thank you for not giving up on me yet". Then this is the second battle where she shone the most. It was like her spirit reignited, and said "It's payback time" to the basestars and "I'll show you how it was done in my prime" to Pegasus.
The last battle where she shone, and the one it was the brightest was the final one. It's like she knew she was aging and when the time came she didn't say "So this is it..." Rather it's like she said to Adama herself: "How about one last showdown, partner?".
@@elementxxrider yep. Well said.
This was one of the best shot battles in the show. It also made so much sense and fit flawlessly into the plot. The colonial ships far outmatched the cylons in a fair fight. Seeing the colonial force, now two ships strong, make a calculated offensive against the enemy on their terms was great. The minimal casualties also makes sense with the plot, once again, the basestars were no match for the battlestars in a broadside engagement.
it's actually because the cylons didn't learn from their mistake. Although hunting the enemy with hundreds of fighters is good idea. Carriers are easily hunted unless they are supported by other ships. Cylon basestars should have at least had better protection.
@@nowayman1406 Modern Basestars were built under the assumption that the Cylon capital ship force would only need to be a fighter logistics support platform and a missile delivery system to destroy helpless Colonial ships and nuke planets from orbit. Any other capabilities (better Armor, kinetic weapons, etc) were likely deemed superfluous to need during the design phase.
In short, the Cylons were putting all of their eggs in the Colonial Mainframe Virus basket, and designed their entire military around the assumption that they would have that key advantage in every engagement of the coming holocaust. In short, they wound up being as shortsighted as their own creators, in their own unique way.
NOT basestars, but baseships.
@@kresnik_ss you really underestimate the newer battlestars, dude. ships like the mercury class trumped the cylon basestars in every way, except maybe fighter capacity (which was offset by much higher fighter quality) jump range and resurrection (for obvious reasons). without the cnp, the colonial fleet wouldve curbstomped the cylons. youre talking about hundreds of battlestars in mass engagements here. plus, the logistical support of 12 worlds, as opposed to the cylons one colony. its not a question of if, but when the colonials would have won. also, the comparison with destroyers doesnt really work. basestars, when they have to fight themselves, still do it at ranges where they are very much susceptible to enemy fire. destroyers today launch their missiles from sometimes thousands of kilometers away. itd be more fitting to say that its a carrier with guns going up against a battleship with a flightdeck.
@@kresnik_ss it may technically have had hundreds of launchers, but they couldnt all be utilized simultaneously, as they were placed on opposing sides of the arms for example. youre talking about maybe a third of the launchers actually being used at any one time. which, admittedly, couldve been solved by simply spinning the baseships, but eh. also, remember the battle at ragnar anchorage from the mini series. the flak field that galactica projects alone had a range of several kilometers, while its main batteries later in the series struck the cylon basestars even beyond that.
ill freely admit that the cylons had the advantage as far as information was concerned. their agents had infiltrated colonial society to a fatal level. im not disputing that the fall was inevitable. but we are talking about a hypothetical match up here, where both factions go toe to toe in a conventional war, so some liberties have to be taken. if were just comparing the factions on that level, the way i see it is this: the cylons had a much smaller fleet than the colonials, about one third if i remember correctly. the ships of said fleet were not designed for battle, but to effectively nuke the colonial worlds and fleets, so focus wasnt put on diversified armaments or particular resilience to enemy fire. further, the cylons had only their one colony and probably a few mining operations and a shipyard plus a few outposts here and there (this is pure extrapolation, because in 40 years they had to have built their fleet and mined the necessary materials somewhere after all).
on the other hand you have the colonial fleet, which was made up of 120 battlestars (canonically anyway, but practically there had to have been more due to the sheer amount of battlestar groups already) plus smaller combat vessels, like cruisers, battleships, escorts, and so on and so forth. plus the colonial reserves. battlestars were designed with heavy armor and effective artillery, plus sustainability for limited durations of time. battlestars could manufacture their own ammunition from mined materials, and the newer models could even build entire vipers. they had training facilities for pilots as well. battlestars carried ground troops and equipment as well, making them viable to support ground invasions. they were resistant to hacking attempts, and the newer models employed modern technology and it infrastructure to wage war as well. they fielded large viper wings and point defense systems. they were designed to withstand extensive punishment. it took several minutes of uninterrupted punishment from several cylon basestars to destroy even an old jupiter class. when the cylons fought galactica, they stayed out of range because they werent a match for a ship designed for actual blow for blow battles. and now add in the sheer resources at the disposal of the colonial fleet. mining companies, wartime industry, scientists researching better ways to kill cylons and defend against them, constant recruitment lines and new forces to throw into the fray, munitions depots, constant resupply and superior knowledge of terrain because its literally their hometurf and they can fight on their terms, likely extensive satellite networks and monitoring stations, heavily armed outposts throughout the cyrannus system, its really no match.
in a conventional war, the cylons would probably be able to inflict some heavy losses through the surprise element and being underestimated by the colonials at first, they could cause great damage on the planets and on the ships with their hidden agents, but ultimately it wouldnt be enough. the models would be discovered and rounded up, and at the end of the day the colonial fleet and the 12 colonies are too big a job for the cylons. they would rebound and that would be the end of it. its as if during the independence movement, america didnt stop at throwing out the brits, but instead tried to attack england itself in retaliation. you cant battle a faction that large if youre that small. unless youre really good, and the cylons werent. not where it matters in a conventional war.
Gawd, after two seasons of the Colonials on the backfoot it's hard to describe how pleasurable it is to see two basestars get absolutely ripped to shreds
Relax. It's a show.
@@GoLakers3900 I'm not sure where I implied it isn't a show? Do you have an argument against my statement?
@@MatthewBanks100 You started off with, "Gawd,..." hence me telling you to relax.
@@GoLakers3900 so, you concede that at no point did I argue this, in fact, was not a show? Where is it implied that I am anything but relaxed in my remarks?
@@MatthewBanks100 The point is, there's nothing to get upset about over a show. You're a touchy fella. I didn't mean to touch your defenses. Sheesh...
A moment of silence for the Blackbird...it was cool while it lasted.
The worst part is that it didn't even get hit by a Cylon. Lee hit a disabled Raptor.
I still don't understand why they couldn't just build a new one
@@themc.kennyshow6585 There wasn't really a point. And the production facilities aboard the Pegasus were better used for recuperating the Viper and Raptor losses the Galactica suffered.
It's such a cool ship that i even named my dog Roslin.
@@Mobius_118 They could have built a new one. It didn't seem like it took much resources to build one. It doesn't make sense to not make even just 1. I think it was just too powerful against the Cylons that the writers had write it out of the story.
This battle is 16 years old. It stood the test of time
Rewatching again 2024. Combined with the the soundtrack, this is still the gold standard. Contemporary star trek can't even come close.
I watched the series for the first time in 2022. It did not feel out of date at all.
@@yugurtz There are SO many different things that make the series captivating.
As a Star Wars nerd, it kills me that Star Wars never had a single space battle in Episodes 7, 8, or 9 that was this purely awesome. Even with a zillion times the budget and 15-20 years newer tech. One of the most perfect, kinetic, impactful, awesome space combat scenes this lifelong sci-fi nerd has ever seen. I've re-watched countless times.
Well... Disney
coz they spent all the money on marketing, wokeness and consultants
1:10 the professionalism in that moment is kind of both surreal but strangely realistic. A true lifelong soldier would react the same way. Now if Lee were dead, he would have his breakdown after everything in his privacy. Maybe Saul sees it. Maybe. But the crew in the middle of a battle. Nope. 'My son might be dead. See if he ejected, back to business'
One of the underrated features of BSG is the Battlestar artillery. The muzzle velocity that those projectiles must be travelling at, in space, is just an awesome visual.
I still think they should have been using energy weapons, not "bullets." Anything solid would be hazardous to their own ships.
Remember: every shot they miss continues on at that speed forever.
@@badgercdlyonsand space is endless trust me it makes no impact
One of my favorite parts of the show was that they averted the sci-fi trope of laser weapons. Besides the artificial gravity and FTL travel, everything was grounded in familiar territory.
@@badgercdlyons hence why Newton is the most deadly SoB in space.
Even though these were looking like Apollo's last moments... It must have been magnificent to see these two Battlestars circling that BaseStar like two great white sharks investigating their next meal.
It wasnt his last moments
He still get to fight more days
@@henrycooper3431 sadly. He got to crash Pegasus.
@@ancaplanaoriginal5303 indeed
It is a tragedy consider the wings he left at the civillian ship could also die themselves
I'm still in awe how beautiful this looks, when he's looking at this space battle.
This was based on a real pilot shot down during the Battle of Midway who was able to watch the destruction of the Japanese carriers from the water. He had a prime vantage point.
I love the details about this episode for example Fisk sweating and having serious concerns about the coup d'etat he was ordered to execute.
These episodes and this battle alongside the battle for the Tylium asteroid perfectly encapsulate Battlestar Galactica. You have three or four plot arcs running concurently with and being dependent on the battle you are watching. The tension keeps you constantly on the edge of your seat.
Literally needed flextape and he would have been fine
You would think a patch kit would have been in one of those pockets on that suit seeing as how if the suit were in a situation in which the pilot would rely on its protection would likely involve an ejection and possible suit damage.
exactly
Duct tape is a no brainer,lol
Oh yeah. Hell, even Gundam makes a point of having emergency sealant tape in a separate pocket on every vac suit for fixing punctures, cuts and faceplate cracks, and we do actually see it used multiple times.
@@amitakartok yeah, similar thing in The Expanse, it's to the point we know exactly where the patch kit is for every suit: the left chest pouch
Boy when the Cylons can't use their virus against them to shutdown their systems they get outmatched and outgunned.
Now imagine Galactica would be on peak streanght....she was armed down and still plowed through cylons like they are paper xD
How did Pegasus, a newer-model battlestar, get around it? I imagine they found some sort of counter.
The theme of hacking the enemy's central fire-control system is something I encountered as far back as 1979 in Stewart Cowley's book "Great Space Battles", where the Lagunans do it to the Terrans (humans). It's not as critical in that story because the humans still have plenty of ships and the homeworlds aren't threatened, but the tactical problem is identical. The human response is simple but effective - go back to the boneyards and reserve hangars for older ships that have no central control to hack. I'd love to see it made as a film or miniseries; the danger is that some idiot might think they were plagiarizing BSG 2004, instead of the other way around.
@@Ensign_Cthulhu pegasus was awaiting her refit (to Baltar's system) in the dock when the Cylon attack
So they were able to do a blind jump and escape
All hail the flying brick
The most beautiful battle in scifi history.
Colonials: Exactly. The thought that those frakking toasters nearly wiped us out and force us to keep on running all the while makes this battle of us tearing them apart even more beautiful.
This must be the only scifi show they have in Romania.
I personally prefer the Battle of Ragnor Anchorage in the pilot.
@ Lovely, the guy just wanted to express his dedication to the show. Did it good or bad, nvm, you still had to pull him down, right. Because a homo sapiens cannot be a homo sapiens without feeling better over somebody else. Guess it made your day better, huh? P.S. You sure your surname is written with "e", not "u"?
I prefer the expanse
I love the scene at 3:25 where Galactica is really letting loose with all its guns, broadsiding the Basestar while the point defence takes out the Cylon missiles. Such a great animation which has withstood time!
This is probably one of the best fight scenes I've ever seen in sci-fi. The entire battle is actually based on the very real Battle Of Midway during WW2. In the battle a reconnaissance pilot was shot down and watched the entire battle while floating on the ocean. The Battle Of Midway, just like this one, was the turning point in the war in the pacific that helped the United States defeat the Axis powers in the Pacific theater. Well done, 5 stars, emotional and epic.
For a show that is really old, the logical science fiction here is astounding! This show uses zero space tactics as Vipers drift sideways and can strafe. You never see these laws applied in star wars linear space battles. Imagine a tie fighter just doing a drift 180 degree rotation to shoot backwards at a pursuing X-Wing
Imagine if all of these technologically advanced sci-fi futures had rear facing weapons that were controlled by computer? Why are people still "flying" around with front mounted guns and having to aim/fire manually?
In an ep of Star Wars Rebels, Darth Vader actually did just that to 2 pursuing X-Wings.
Let’s be generous. BSG/ST/SW are different universes. The totality of comparing them is irrelevant; the only comparison is what you personally believe and that to no other.
This show is not really old, you are just young...
Space: Above and Beyond and Babylon 5 did far more than BSG did and they were years before the BSG Reboot.
I think each show has its pros and cons when it comes to its tech. Each one a different flavor. I don't think one does better than another over all. They each appeal differently. B5 had good ship design, stayed loyal to the 'no artifical gravity magic unless you're aliens', and had good fighter concepts and combat in 3D space. S:AB had good designs that were semi realistic (like a box shaped carrier) and realistic weapons for the most part. BSG used technically sound tactile combat, even used Electronic Warfare but it's ship designs were pure art and nothing too realistic. So the writing was 'realistic' for the setting (modern combat mashed with ww2 inspired combat for convention systems).
The variety that was done back then in the 90s thru early 2000s was amazing. These days people are freaking out about 'The Expanse' but for me I want a B5 mashed with BSG that dabbles with OLD Star Trek political intrigue and philosophical problem solving.
Even after all these years, this is still one of the best space battles ever created. Everything from the direction of the action to the amazing soundtrack.
Yeah, for me too. This one and the other great space battle i saw that comes to mind is from a game actually, Freespace 2 ...
@@DreamskyDance Absolutely classic game
and the reason is surprisingly simple: we can follow it. the battlestars are all understood by us way more than any other ship in any other combat ever (maybe the enterprise come close, but even that was just a bridge and a holodeck mostly.) we even understand the basestars as weapns better than most hero ships, and the resurrection ship is also clear and obvious. than the small number if big ships makes it clear what happens, not just visual noise and pew-pew, even the fighters are in limited numbers, mostly piloted by actual characters we all know, ever call in has actual meaning, not just some bs. and of course, we all know the meaning of the battle, not just two fleet meet and than fight happens, both side has costs and consequences.
compare this to the most common way of battles: blobs of ships doing who knows what and why?
The CGI in this scene is still stunning to look at.
Every Season of the show was nominated for Outstanding Visual Effects Emmy's and it actually won them twice even got 1 for sound editing one year. Shame it never got nominations for the acting, but the Emmy's hate Sci-Fi.
BSG holds up incredibly well for a show that is nearly 20 years old.
Why is it that this CGI is still so incredible and CGI like the last Star Wars movie looks so fake?
@@cmbuelow Talent, experience and hard work. Whoever worked on this scene obviously cared about what they were doing.
@@skippertheeyechild6621 it’s the best CGI battle I have ever ever seen and it’s 20 years old. Amazing
I love this scene for so many reasons; one being that it reveals why the Cylons had no other choice but to use their "surprise attack" strategy to beat the Colonials. Just one modern Battlestar and a "clunker" in support with minimal resources and nowhere near full capacity flight wings and it's a walk in the park for the Colonials against 2 fully loaded Basestars and a Ressurection Ship. Almost felt sorry for the Cylons by the end of it.
I imagine old Jamie Bamber was hanging around in front of a blue screen when filming those scenes floating through space... Just imagine recreating this scene today... in "The Volume" stage they use for The Mandalorian. It would be.... interesting. 😎
It's called plot armor. That means that one modern battlestar and that clunker had it in the bag.
@Fabian Kirchgessner Yes; extremely powerful ships which I think is why a toe-to-toe fight was always a lost cause for the Cylons. But I would say at New Caprica, the battle was Galactica and her birds alone for the most part and they seemed confident in dealing with 2 Basestars. It was only then the Cylons got reinforcements that Adama realised they couldn't handle 4 Basestars.
I imagine if the Colonial situation was not so desperate then they would have organised a joint strike using both Galactica and Pegasus as they did with the Ressurection ship. If Adama thought a skeleton crew Galactica could handle 2 Basestars then a joint strike with Pegasus can surely pick up the other 2. As it turned out, Galactica barely escaped destruction; but only because Lee jumped into the middle of the battle at the last minute. If they had always planned to do that then I think the outcome would have been very different.
@@matthewjohnson903 Haha! That's very interesting... since it was the skinjob Cylons arguing with each other that ultimately started their civil war and ended resurrection for good. Baltar was stirring it too when he had words with that one Centurion. If the mechanical Cylons got wise they would have just relentlessly kept cranking out more and more ships and Centurions until they simply overun the Colonials with their numbers.
If Galactica outruns the raiders and missiles from 1 Basestar... how about 10 Basestars. How about 50... 😂😂
@@GoLakers3900 Haha. It's funny but this is probably the first show I watched without feeling any character escaped a situation because they had plot armour. Of course, they all have it or there wouldn't be a show... that season 1 cliffhanger still gets you good! 😂
@@matthewjohnson903 The question here is, at what point do the Cylons become the Slave Masters they were fighting against?
They also seemed to have no idea what to do after they wped out humanity. Sure, they could have colonized the galaxy, even the universe, but what is the point?
Even without resurrection technology, if they can avoid being destroyed, they are effectively immortal (as long as spare parts are available).
Pegasus and Resurrection Ship Parts 1 & 2 are some of the best episodes of television I have ever seen.
From a guy who plays a lot of space engineers, this is beautiful
This goes to show if the colonials had a chance to fight back they would of wiped the floor with the cylons provided they still went with this style of basestar . A coordinated attack plan even with just two colonial ships instead of the full battlestar groups is devastating to the cylons .
@Fabian Kirchgessner honestly i disagree. After the first cylon war the colonies knew the targets , tactics and supply lines of the cylons . they also had far superior weaponry and with actual defence fleets i think the cylons would of been decimated . The issues the colonials had in the first war was it was a suprise and the colonial fleets where still taking shape and relied on alot of old vessles from when the colonies fought each other .
@Fabian Kirchgessner im interested in the 1st world war bcs honestly the design of the cylon ships seems like it was made for this one attack and not for fighting battlestars. So im pretty sure the colonial fleet could have dealt with the cylon basestars quite easily actually. The cylons are heavily reliant on missiles which can be destroyed before hitting target which the battlestars often did throughout the series. The cylon basestars would have stood a chance.
@@Husker5454 No.
in the event of war, the cylons had instantly replaceable troops with experience (scar).
War over, no mankind
@@sirkuchen1501 If you are interested in the 1st war, there's a turn-based strategy game called BSG:Deadlock, which is somewhat fully canon, let you play out how the 1st cylon war went and why they fought into a stalemate. The writing wouldn't be as good as the show, but the visual and gameplay aspect 100% matches the CGI in the show.
@@hellstromcarbunkle8857 Yeah, but they're only replaceable as long as the Colonials don't start targeting Resurrection facilities and the relatively defensless Resurrection Ships. And judging by how easily the Resurrection Hub was destroyed by a single rebel Basestar, I can't imagine how fast it would be over if an entire Colonial Battlestar Group decided to hit it. Plus, neither of the Battlestars present are at full strength. Galactica is missing most of its crew, armaments, armor, a Flight Pod, and a majority of its full air wing since it was in the process of being decomissioned. Pegasus is also lacking in its air wing and crew since it was in dry dock when the Cylons attacked the shipyards and it was forced to make an emergency jump.
That being said, it's likely that the Cylons would focus development on ships more akin to those seen during the First Cylon War (like those seen in Deadlock) which were more durable and had a decent amount of survivability compared to modern Basestars.
BSG hands down takes the cake for most epic space battles. Star Wars can only dream of such battles.
Oh, lots of Star Wars' battles were more epic in terms of number of combatants, etc. BUT, they weren't as well thought-out or presented. BSG and The Expanse run away with THAT prize.
Like all of BSG'04, there are several story lines masterfully layered into a single scene. So much being told at the same time. And the writing was done very much on the fly.
Its 2020 and they still got no contender for this battle
Tried watching the expanse. The battles there are insanely exciting and tense especially since they ships experience inertia so the crew need to be strapped in and every change in direction is felt with the body experiencing very high Gs... Search " Rocinante saves RazorBack"
@@jaysonm.1598 Agree, I think only The Expanse gets close.
I hope PICARD ups the ante for once and we get a DS9 total war style.
Nah the expanse totally topped this.
The Orville Season 2 ending. Pretty intense.
2024~
i'm still mad that they killed the stealth raptor after only a couple of episodes.
Too OP
They should have done something that has been done in FreeSpace 1 and 2
The terrans captured shivan fighters and used them for recon missions behind enemy lines
Mmm delta flier
The stealth blackbird was cool but i didnt liked at all that they could create a stealth ship "accidentally"..
I mean they litterally had to use carbon composite panels to do the fuselage.. and then they said "oh it sure will be hard to see on dradis" like a total aftertought.. and then it turns it was a massive strategic asset capable of sneaking in the middle of Cylon fleets totally undetected.. if its as simple as coating a ship in carbon panels wich also are aparently much easier to find and produce than regular alloys why they didnt made a few stealth ships for tactical/inteligent porpouses? because after the Blackbird is lost they never ever again bring the topic back..
It would be if today some poor country has to make a plane out of foam board or EPP and it turns out to be stealth accidentally capable of sneaking into heavily defended airspaces
@@danieldorn2927 Freespace FTW!
3:26 My favourite shot in the entire show. I just love Galactica flak.
Having been in the US Navy, Ronald D. Moore likely based Apollo's predicament on the real life of Ensign George H. Gay Jr. at the Battle of Midway where after being the only survivor of his entire squadron of 30 men, sat in the water for over an entire day watching three of the four enemy Japanese aircraft carriers being sunk in front of him with a front row seat until he was rescued. Plus it gives a great POV of the battle.
Seeing both ships shred the basestars was really satisfying, considering in the miniseries, the basestars seemed so formidable and almost impossible to hurt
Apollo drifting in space watching the battle was inspired by Ensign George Gay, an American pilot who was shot down during the Battle of Midway and watched the battle while being stranded in the ocean.
Most satisfying sci-fi battle, together with the advancing Starfleet - Klingon coalition forces in the late stages of the Dominion war (remember two Galaxy class cruisers ripping holes into a Galor class ship, just EPIC).
And that’s just two Battlestars. Imagine the Colonial fleet intact and unleashing the fury of all Battlestars onto the fragile Cylon Basestars.
The Magellan and the Venture in DS9. Those were the two tearing that Galor to pieces.
Prelude to war is a master piece of a soundtrack
Michelle Forbes is just so amazing in this role as captain of The Pegasus. BTW ... Check her out in 2023 in the third season of "Picard" as she resumes her role as "Ro Laren," one of the best characters TNG ever produced!
Yep! Great character. Great actress!
Yep she completely captures the deranged war criminal so well
This show is just as great today as it was the first time it was aired. It is one of my all time favorite sci-fi show. I find myself going back to it and watching the series over and over. I know this show is not that old but they just dont make them like this anymore.
You have good taste 😎
I know your comment is a year old, but check out 'The Expanse', either the books or the show. Babylon 5, BSG and The Expanse are all spectacular in their own right.
@@DeliciousCornbread you are so right. I have seen all 3 of those shows and enjoy them very much.
I agree. The Expanse also, did an amazing job of battles. As for Babylon 5, it was ok, but the cgi was a bit ropey in my opinion. The Expanse however would stand up to the battle effects of BSG.
Oh for sure! I mean B5 will be 30 years old next year, so it's certainly quite dated back in an era when big budget TV series weren't really a thing. So all things considered, not too shabby. But anytime a Starfury was on screen I was happy! @@Bazbat01
I binge this series every 3-4 years.. the extended episodes and a lot of the deleted scenes are worth owning the blu-rays for! I hope some day they spend the money on new transfers, but I doubt that will ever happen.
I've tried to rewatch it but to me it doesn't hold up a second time.
So much going on in the battle and in each character. Such masterful story telling.
Newtons first law of gravity on scene here when they blow the ship up. The fighters continue moving in one direction even after turning laterally. Love the realism in Sci-Fi.
*law of motion
One of the best space battles ever depicted in science fiction.
Just like for whoever is in charge to know that I’m down to buy the 4K remaster of this show.
It was wonderful to see this scene again. IMO this show is one of the best tv shows of all time.
Not only was this the best written sci Fi show ever, but in if the best written TV shows ever. At a time when the Sci Fi channel was horrible production value this was top notch cinematic production value.
Why is everyone so mad at Will? Every war movie have ever watched they say "Fire at Will". Poor guy.🤣🤣🤣
People forget how insanely good this show is.
The right people don't. We're out there, and we'll never forget how truly magnificent BSG is. So say we all.
I haven't forgotten. I often tell people it was one of the greatest shows ever on Television. IMHO, the 3 greatest shows were: Sopranos, Game of Thrones and Battlestar Galactica. Funny thing, I've watched Sopranos and BSG probably 3 times each from start to finish (replayed them). But I can't make it all the way through Thrones for some reason. (Maybe because the last 2 seasons were so lame compared to the previous seasons. Dunno. I can't quite put my finger on it.) But BSG, I can watch again every few years. That says a lot about it.
Great series except the ending
@@jaffarebellion292 So say we all
got the chills watching this, remembering how good this show was...
The music they used in this is some of my favourite OST.
Name of the song pls
@@nfsking4826 Prelude To War
@@SmugCanadian nope ..i mean the ost when the resurrection ship explodes :(
One of the best operations in sci fi history.
The space battles scenes are just absolutely poetic on BSG. Still some of my favorite effects to this day!
Wow, so much going on this short amount of time, distracted only by Apollo's sunglasses and swim trunks.
hard to believe syfy will ever make another show that can compete
Yeah not since they changed their name to that atrocity.
I used to be at the bar talking to girls and I would look at my watch. 9:30. "Sorry girls I gotta go, battlestars on in a half hour." Best tv show ever.
I wish I could watch this again for the first time.....One of the best shows of all time IMO
I just binge watched the whole series for the first time and now I don't know what to do with myself, I'm in withdrawal 😑
One of my favorite battles of the series and of all sci-fi space battles.
This entire series was riveting, incredible acting and beloved.
Part 1:
Battlestar Galactica is the best science fiction series out there. Star Wars has a billion-dollar budget, awesome special effects and a lame story.
Part 2:
I don't understand why Battlestar Galactica wasn't as successful in the world as Star Wars
@@AntonioCarlos-ii6yw Disney star wars is garbage, books however are amazing. and they hit the imagination hard. (although this show is incredible as well)
This was such a great show, I miss watching BSG every week. ❤
This sequence and the destruction of the Resurrection Hub were the most visually impressive scenes in the show's run (the glitch in the Hub explosion aside). The way the sad music kicked in when the Cylon bodies floated off into space struck me the first time round as well.
One of the best science fiction series ever. Highly underrated.
I loved that we got an epic space battle between humanity and the cylons but behind the action humans are still plotting to destroy one another (Adana vs cain).
Half the reason that Humanity was fighting the Cylons was because the Cylons attacked... the other half was that nobody kills Humans apart from other Humans.
This is the best ever Sci-Fi series, there’s something about the intensely emotional nature of it that is truly exceptional. Either the manual phones, the unique light, its environment of wandering and survival, it’s fascinating!
Is there no emergency "glue" or something? Since suit leak like that would be pretty common in the future.
Or internal seals to isolate things like this
$2 DUCT TAPE: Am I a joke to you?
Well, they are not UNN or MCRN soldiers
That's a plot hole, but excused for it is used to give us a great scene of Lee watching the battle from the front row and then his "passing" under water. Both a physical condition and a soul journey. That's what makes the show great, the layers and how they are exemplarily well thought out and integrated in one another. All made possible by the fact that colonial engineers "forgot" to invent a standard repair kit for a leak like that.
It wasn’t part of the story line
I love how they make the space camera shots look organic- like a guy holding an actual camera is filming it.
When asked why, they wanted to mimic the footage from dogfights in the second world War and I I agree it's awesome.
The series peaked with this episode.
who ever was working on these effects was having a blast, pun intended, you can really see the effort to make it look realistic but still entertaining.
Легендарные страницы культового сериала! Очень хочется забыть всё и пересмотреть с самого начала, но как можно забыть эту очень реалистичную и трагичную историю, может быть нашего далекого прошлого.... Создателей сериала и всех кто в этом учувствовал... благодарю за то, что вы это создали!
Still passes the test of time. I love this series so much. It always strikes an emotional chord.
Brilliantly done and the best space I have ever seen. Action and music blending to draw emotions. Cheers.
Why do the artillery shells from both the galactica and pegasus look way better than star wars turbolasers or star trek phaser. With the KW's from the battlestars you can actually feel the raw power behind these weapons.
Well they ARE kinetic energy projectiles like APFSDS
Turbolasers are just... plasma turrets and Phaser are just wave of sound being concentrated to the point it deal damage
Colonial Battlestars were like US Warships in WW2, designed to take a beating and keep fighting. The Pegasus was not destroyed by the Cylons, Lee used it as a weapon.
Not to mention Galactica rotted away long before the Cylons destroyed her. Makes me wonder if the other Battlestars back in colonies could somehow be repaired and put back in the fight,
@@thesparduck117 im pretty sure it would be possible to repair some of the less damaged BS but the problem is that there are no facilitys to do that anymore (beside Ragnar probably). Also you would need to get them of the grid via blind jump...... so you need a working FTL for that plan to work
Wow, first Apollo looses the Black Bird. Then next season he looses Pegasus.
Then he loses his wife, then he loses Starbuck.
For me, the BEST remake of the history....
This serie high the valor of the galáctica series to the podium with star Trek , and star wars...in My opinión..
I was feeling uneasy with how the fatty was looking around ... Was expecting a sudden assasination . I was literally on edge to yell " Nooooo !! "
One thing that I think it's a very simple continuity mistake no pocket for emergency suit patches in case a suit takes a puncture or a rip other than that this was perfect., in terms of the acting, cinematography ., and OMG the music in this scene was like a character itself if they ever decide to do a reboot or a spinoff... Please by the gods themselves let bear McCreary do the music
plot puncture.. im pretty sure the colonial survival pack must contain patches or some kind of anaerobic glue that can seal off such damage (they had those in Gary Anderson's UFO in the 60s)
When Lee is looking at the battle sitting in his chair has to be one of the greatest shots ever, and it was made for a fucking TV show in like 2005. You could put that shot in a modern series released tomorrow and it would still look fantastic.
The only other space battle that comes close to this is from the Expanse when the Rocinante and OPA attack Thoth station and defeat the stealth ship. They are both very different battles though - capital ships and their air wings vs a fairly small scale engagement but lots of moving elements and time pressure.
i think the Roci vs Marco's three ships in the final season was the best space combat sequence ever filmed. The one with the 180 degree railgun shots and Bobbie figuring out how to beat them by shooting PDC rounds into the space where she knows they are going to dodge. just such an amazing scene
nothing beats this right here for drama though
It still amazes me how well the visuals hold up despite being from nearly 2 decades ago
Me: Man, I gotta watch this series again!
Also me: Peacock...nope.
Shame on you. You should own this already 😤 lol
It’s free to watch on Tubi. Though I don’t know how good the video quality is there.
@@Maxphyte should be decent, but full of ads lol
The soundtrack when everything's about to kick off hits gooooood.
Songname pls
My fav part is at 06:37 when Six says "they've done it!" .. yeah, now you have as much to lose as the humans
Wasn't that the point? That the Cylons no longer being able to throw endless reserves at the problem was a basis for potentially ending the war? Remember, the Cylons aren't exactly acting as a unified front by the end.
The DVDs will be my Christmas present this year and Caprica! 🥳 This is my favorite show EVER!
Best remake of an original series ever. So glad it recieved a proper ending. SO SAY WE ALL
So say we all.
SO SAY WE ALL
GCI in this battle scene was beautiful. Hard to believe this was nearly 2 decades ago.
Anyone notice they play the same music almost every time one of the Adamas almost die?
They use it for:
- Adama getting shot
- Lee almost dying after ejecting
- The Galactica almost getting destroyed right before the Pegasus shows up
What song is that?
@@brandynbrawner1404 Bloodshed from Season 1.
I understood Lee stopping to attempt to plug the hole in his suit and just let himself go. After all the stress and fatigue finally caught up with him.
They spent an entire episode building the Blackbird, and then destroyed it two episodes later and it was never mentioned again. Were the writers worried they made a fighter too powerful for the show?
I bet they put rear view mirrors on the next one so the pilots will watch where they are flying!
The Blackbird was built at a time when things were looking really bad for Galactica, her older Mark II vipers had been in constant use either in battle or patrol. They were showing their age and lack of maintenance and spare parts. The Blackbird was built out of Tyrol's frustration, and the rest of the crew joined in. When Pegasus arrived, they now had the capability to build new Mark VII vipers
@@kurtvond1798 That is true, but a stealth fighter equipped with a jumpdrive and able to carry missiles would be a very valuable tactical asset. Imagine arming the Blackbird with nuclear-tipped missiles (the same ones used to destroy the Resurrection Hub) and using it for hit-and-run attacks against Cylon fleets. Also it was a perfect deep recon craft.
It was a brilliant sequence. The hero watching the spectacular victory unfold whilst his life ebbs away floating in space.