Battlestar Galactica | Destroying Scar
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Kat and Starbuck desperately try to kill Scar, a deadly Cylon raider.
Season 2, Episode 15 "Scar" - Called upon to investigate a Colonial mining operation, Galactica's exhausted Viper pilots must match wits with a lethal Cylon Raider nicknamed Scar.
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They touched on PTSD among the pilots who faced their own deaths each day and lived through the guilt of the friends that never came home. This was so well done.
Kat is so boastful... That humbling tribute Starbuck made to their fallen comrades stole her thunder real quick!
she didnt want them to lose sight of why they exist... and who paved the stars with their blood to get them where they are. We all should remember that even in our world today.... the millions of lives given so we can sit around patting ourselves on the back...
@RubiiX From fraud to Hero... I reckon she earned those props in the end.
I loved that about Starbuck. Instead of hitting Kat, she shamed her. I loved that
in the moment of the win, it's easy to forget the cost.
@Floyd1504 LOl. She was a brat, No doubt. Be that as it may, she redeemed herself in the end. No one is beyond redemption. No one should die alone.
Scar really needed Abandon All Hope written on its hull.
S. A. A. B. reference alright, that was a good show.
Now I want a scene of a Six writing that on him.
And Galactica needed pancakes on the menu.
Lasciate Ogni Speranza
And drink some fine red wine after killing him and pretending it's his blood.
Love how Kara grasps the bottle, and stares Kat down. Then stalks her slowly.
Half the room thinkin she pours. The other thinkin she bashes her with it.
Epic
I wouldn't be surprised if she went with the latter.
and makes kat chase the stream, instead of carefully pouring it into the cup.
A detail I loved was that they explained away the lack of high tech user interface touchscreens and crazy scifi tech with the need to go analog on most systems, because the Cylon kept hacking all their high tech gear. Great detail.
A lesson modern humanity need's to learn too!
Considering what just happened to FB, IG, and Whatsapp seems we've always had a habit of baking in an Achilles heel into our tech
It's even more amazing that they already built huge ftl spaceships using purely analog systems and terraformed several planets before switching to high tech software systems and eventually AI.
@@athomenotavailable You didn't see Caprica did you? They had high tech software systems. They had advanced computers, holographic displays, and more. They even had AI versions of home assistants capable of decision-making. The Cylons were not the invention of AI, but an attempt to go beyond that and create artificial life. And … all of this has happened before.
How many times have humans developed advanced technology, gone to the stars, built artificial life, tried to subjugate it, had it rebel, fought wars with it, and just about annihilated themselves only to start over again and make the same mistakes somewhere else among the stars? Never explicitly stated in BSG canon, but it's kind of hinted at that it's certainly been more than twice. We know that because Ellen's skinjobs came from Earth 1, not from Kobol. And we know that Kobol was destroyed the same way. And we know that Caprica's Cylons came from Zoe Graystone's "ghost" (as in Ghost in the Shell term) inhabiting a prototype toaster model.
It appears the Cylons' monotheistic religion (which doesn't originate with the Cylons) came from a "cult" Zoe had gotten involved with. And that Head Six and Head Baltar are "angels"(?) in service of this one God. It's implied then that the Lords of Kobol were NOT gods, though the colonies revere them as such.
@@knghtbrd this time a one god belief came from Zoey. At Kobol, it was the belief one the 13th tribe.
It's amazing Starbuck recalled so many. It's heart wrenching when she mentions all they have lost. On another series, General (now Chancellor) Martok during the Dominion War always said: "A victory that is not shared is a hollow one". And this pyrhic victory was truly shared. Facing impossible odds against a killing machine who by damage to its "brain" left it with sentience and a thirst for vengeance. Scar was a terror to all the humans left. But in a way no different.
It's destruction was perhaps the one shread of hope humanity needed to continue. And in an honor to all those who defended Galactica and her convoy, it was a good day to die (Worf, son of Mogh, House of Roshenko, House of Martok, bane of the Duras Family, destroyer of Gowron, rightful heir to the Klingon Empire, and the Federation and Klingon Empire's finest warrior).
"A victory when we lose many of our dear comrades. It has a bitter taste."
Damm, starbuck. You really know how to bring a room down.
new Call sign "Downer"
Can't forget those who died so that you could live and continue the fight.
@@Dakarn Isn't that a Cain Quote?
Kara leads Scar into a trap so that Kat can have the easiest kill possible by just showing up and shooting the distracted raider... then Proceeds to boast like she single handedly killed scar like a badass.. Kat is frustrating but in that scene she annoyed the hell out of me.
Nothing incredible about her kill yet she acts like she’s a legend
Well... Kat being Kat. :D
The two of them had been going back and forth … This scene was Kara growing up a bit. A year earlier Kara would've been doing the same thing.
Never liked Kat. Didn't bother me when she leapt off the show.
Being the bait is kinda impressive there, along with not dying. Plus "Troops" are always braggholes.
Yes, Kat was a brat. A killer pilot, an up and coming leader, but still a brat in this part of the arc. But remember how she died? Not so bratty then, giving her life for the fleet. Ugly way to die, too. Both Kat and Starbuck showed suicidal moments in the story arc.
I think the celebration around Kat was a bit undeserved, yeah she fired the killing shots but not without Starbuck lining him up for her first. They at least deserved equal credit for that kill.
True.
But Kat is practically a younger Starbuck, because everything Kat does is something Starbuck wouldve done only a couple years earlier.
Starbuck has mantueed and accepted that she no longer the young hotshot that can or should take stupid risk because they are one of the best pilots and knows others needed credit for morale.
Kat was manturing but died before she became a more manture person.
I believe Kat and Starbuck wouldve been the best of friends if they had enough time.
But she _did_ fire the killing shot, so yes she did deserve it. Keep in mind this bit of culture and tradition isn't so much about keeping a tally of exactly who fired exactly which bullets at exactly which target when, it's about morale and staying sane in a protracted and brutal war. This stuff is all these pilots have left. Their homes destroyed, most everyone they've ever known dead, stuck on a floating bucket with guns in space being hunted by a calculating and relentless enemy
Kat was certainly showing some arrogance, but the celebration in general was well deserved and not just for Kat ( it just happened to use her as the centerpiece/ place of honor ). Scar was dead, a single Cylon raider ace that had taken out multiple comrades was gone forever. It was a celebration for them all, a pat on the back for the one who made the kill, and as Starbuck makes clear a wake for those who didn’t survive.
It's a lesson about leadership. Soldiers compete over who lands the killing shot. Leaders put the enemy where their best soldiers have a clear shot, and bring them home alive. In that moment Starbuck grew from ace pilot to leader - she stopped competing over personal honor, and did what she needed to do make sure her team won and came home in one piece. It was brilliantly written and acted.
*Still one of the best scifi shows around*
Yup! Before it came out, Edward James Olmos said it was going to surprise a lot of people.
Correction: it is the best show around
Feels a bit dated in recent years, and the YT clips feel a bit hyperdramatic... but in the context of the whole journey, it was just epic and poetic in so many ways. Really a classic.
So say we all!!
1. Agree 2. So great that it forever changed the face of SF and nearly everything since (not written by MacFarlane) has felt the need to be dark and gritty-alas.
I love that Kara is momentarily distracted by thoughts about her [believed to be] late husband. Many modern action heroines aren't allowed romantic relationships, for fear it would make them appear weak. Modern scribes should pay attention to Kara Thrace.
And Shane Vansen.😋
loved Space: Above and Beyond. An absolute joke that it got cancelled after one series
Last night i had a dream that a centurion was walking their "dog" , which was a cylon raider. Very weird
boxey!
Weird I had a similar dream 2 months ago. Must be the matrix going through an update...
I had a dream about a Centurion trying to commit suicide by jumping off a building. He killed several people below by shattering the ground around it lol it was so weird.
Needless to say he "survived" without a scratch. Idk why it was so funny.
Christ, I'd forgotten that they played Cavatina by John Williams from the movie The Deer Hunter at the end of this scene... in much the same ways as the survivors in that film remembered Christopher Walkens character Nick right at the end...
Right, I need to go finish peeling those onions.
Dammit, Jolly bought it? He'd been fighting Cylons for over 30 years!
Jolly died on the first day of the war lmao, after Galacticas CAG loses power he tells Jolly to take over command, not realizing that everyone else was shut down too
Another powerful scene from the best sci-fi show ever written.
Have you seen Dark?
@Douglas Pantera It is still a sci-fi. Deals with lots of sci-fi tropes. Both shows are VERY close in quality but are different. DARK beats BSG for me because it's story is impossible to fully comprehend. Every single character has meaning and links to everyone else. It is incredibly complex, shot masterfully, a work of art. It just screams masterpiece :D
BSG is probably a victim of its age. If it were to shine now, I do think it would be a better show, especially since there'd be no writers strike.
I’m favoring Expanse over BSG.
@@grahamstrouse1165 And Babylon 5.
Man when Starbuck starts naming all the people they lost it really put it into perspective
Warms my heart to see all the Space: Above and Beyond love in here.
Katie's idea of putting her thumb to shade out the sun came from Pappy Boyington 😁
I remember hearing that on a WW2 documentary. It's cool to see historical references like that.
I love this. Viper MKVII are my favorites and the "Scar" battle scenes really make em shine. ♥
Yeah, they did. I prefer the MKlls.
Old school! 👍😊
@@paulcavigliano6388 I personally prefer the Mk IIIs from Blood and Chrome. Internal weapons bays ftw.
@@lgmmrm Yeah, theyr all badass! Sure wish I had a real one!
I have a replica of the Galactica Top Gun cup and Katee signed it for me and added "Starbuck" to the scroll on the side. She was so nice.
"With all due respect chaplain, I don't think our maker wants to hear from me right now. Because he knows I'm going to go out in that sky in this plane and remove one of his creations from his universe. And when I return, I'm going to drink a bottle of scotch as if were Chiggy von Richtofens blood and celebrate his death".
~ Colonel T.C. McQueen
The Angriest Angel
Scar was good.
Chiggy von Richtofen was better.
The only thing cooler than a Colonial Viper is a Hammerhead.
We'll talk about your mother when I get back.😂😁
Cancelled to soon. What an amazing show that was.
"Abandon all Hope"
@@possumGFX. Yep, go figure.....!
Wow, it's a rare person these days who's still stanning for Space: Above and Beyond.
katee sackhoff, absolutely nails this role. She does an excellent job in Longmire as well.
battlestar galactica, the only crew that has worse luck then the farscape crew.
The Nostromo crew were pretty fucked.
The Lewis and Clark crew were screwed as well. They literally went to Hell and back.
@@gpgpgpgp1000 indeed they were, but they we'rent looking at the end of thier species. THEY were just screwed.
Not sure why this has just appeared on my front page of youtube. Thopugh I'm not complaing because the 'Scar' episode is a particularly memorable one that had a great story around it. Actually, Starbuck had some of the best character driven episodes of the series, IMHO obviously. Another favourite episode was when she managed to pull a 'dead' raider together to make it her flying zombie slave (so to speak). Oh, and of course, there's her flying Chief Tyrol's "home made" Blackbird through a resurrection ship right under the nose of the Cylon's, impressing the formidable Admiral Cain (Michelle Forbes).
Still gets me in the feels
Is it just me or Scar acted like the Red Baron? Y'know? The "have the sun behind you" and tactic genius?
Red Baron was definitely the inspiration. Chiggy von Richter was as well-but Chiggy was inspired by the Red Baron as well.
No fan base has been, is, or will be as wrong initially as BSG was about Starbuck. But what’s great is people recognized how great she is.
She was annoying.
Almost every other character was written much better.
Kat missed the point. TEAM effort best pilot stayed alive long enough for a pleab to kill a legend
About 20 years ago.
Where the absolute frak did that go?!
Who would win: Scar or Chiggy von Richthofen?
Scar's a machine. He won't break. Chiggy was still an organic.
Mc Queen
that’s a series that ended too soon.
Thats a good question. Scar would win.
@@bobross8569 McQueen would have wiped the floor with both at the same time.
Best Military Sci-Fi Series!
From Starbuck's point of view, "Scar" is the lucky one. He's dead and no longer suffering. Meanwhile, Starbuck lives(?).
The first time I saw this clip I thought Starbuck was planning to hit Cat with that bottle. Maybe she was but changed her mind.
Starbuck probably at least momentarily considered cracking that thing over Kat's head. But she did some growing up, maybe in that moment. Great scene, great episode!
What's really amazing is that there still was something in the bottle. There must be a cargo ship in the fleet with tons of alcoholic beverages in the hold.
@@Ozymandias1 🤣 I'm sure by this point someone in the fleet's got a still running to ease demand.
@@Ozymandias1 the chief taught the deck crew how to make a proper still in the early episodes. So yea they brew
Those arent even real people who died and that scene made me sad
I mean, thats the point of stories lol. BSGs charachters and drama is amazingly done though.
@@termitreter6545 definitely a must watch sci fi
It's all in the storytelling, it really hits home.
Finally starbuck and apollo get down. But it clearly isn't love and we all know it. That's gonna boil over satisfyingly.
Beginning scene is intense with that room where walls are covered by photos and notices about the missing. Very post-9/11. Just like many places in NY City, where people did the same thing.
Sept 11 had just been a couple years prior to the shoe starting so references were all over pop culture.
How times change. Now, you'd have people ripping down the photos because the people were the wrong race/gender/religion/political party/etc..
Maybe the second best episode of BSG
What's the first?
33, Pegasus ?
@@salzkasten I agree. Also partial to Exodus Part 2.
@@UMNightlife Certainly. The whole new Caprica arc is supreme. Especially considering when it aired, showing an american audience the other side.
@@salzkasten Agreed!
The "Pappy Boyington Move." Using your thumb to block out the light.
Top three episodes in my opinion: 1.) 33, 2.) Scar, 3.) Maelstrom
The pictures, on the wall. Say's it all...
So pumped for this show, to get a reboot!!
@David Evans let’s hope the reboot is worthy of the IP. So say we all.
This show really does not need a reboot. I'd watch it, but I doubt they can trump BSG2003
I don't know about that. If the do a reboot, SJW infected Hollywood is definitely going to make it "woke", anti-masculine, ultra-feminist, and very, very pro-LGBT+.
reboot is rarelly a good thing.
I love how they had Scar be smart enough to use the system's star to his advantage.
Rules 1 and 4 of the Dicta Boelcke;
1. Make sure you attain a position of advantage when in air combat (speed, altitude, numerical superiority, position), before you attack. Fly from out of the sun.
4. Go after the opponent from where he cannot see you.
Forgot another: Never forget your line of retreat.
I think Kat took too much credit, but I LOVE how Starbuck countered her arrogance.
Best moment is BSG in my opinion.
Still heart this show. Wish Racetrack was in it a little more. But Holywood
Need to watch it all over again
Great episode
I think there was an implication that the Raider that Starbuck guts to return to Galactica in the first season was Scar and I also like that the serene resigned look she has in the cockpit is similar to what she feels like before killing herself in Jupiter's Eye.
"step child" is a great call sign
Such beautiful writing.
Wonderful show, watched it twice...!!
Reminds me of a better episode in "Space: Above and Beyond" titled: "The Angriest Angel" back in 1996.
this was done much better in "space above and beyond"
Agreed, Chiggy Von Richthoven was done better than Scar. The final fight and tribute 👍
best series of all time
I thought she was in a MK 3 not a 7. Man I need to rewatch this show
You’ve killed him so many frakkin’ times that now he’s not only the best, perhaps better than Starbuck, and he frakkin’ hates every frakkin’ one of you. And he WILL kill you.
Always a great show.
Fun Fact: The Galactica's top gun mug has an F-18 on its lid, a craft that, canonically, doesn't exist for another 150000 years.
Well they were driving around in Humvees, so I guess anything 'exclusive' to Earth could be considered canonical.
Naw, that was a early generation viper. The F-18 was reinvented 150,000 years later. Everything's cyclical...
To be fair, that kill was 90% Starbuck...
Viper pilots are awesome
Why did this beauty get removed from Amazon Prime?!!!!!!
If you're in the US, you can see this show on the Peacock streaming service. Guess NBC wanted its intellectual property back.
I’m tired of relying on streaming services when I need to satisfy my yearly BSG/Caprica itch. I’m buying blu Ray hard copies of both series.
@@jpmanning2966 Own the media you love, so they can never take it from you.
Anyone know about the reboot of this reboot?
Nin is doing the music. Copy of a Copy! *Not sure this is true*
This is from the new showrunner, Mr. Robot creator, Sam Esmail: “BSG fans, this will NOT be a remake of the amazing series @RonDMoore launched because ... why mess with perfection? Instead, we’ll explore a new story within the mythology while staying true to the spirit of Battlestar,”
I've got the 1st season 2.0 season
& 2.5 season. It's cool when starbucks gets inside of one. And learn how to fly one of those alien engineered robots. Basically she becomes the brain of it. And flys it back.
Who would win scenario as well: The battle of aces, space fighter versus a mobile suit (no energy shields and weapon). Cylon Raider Scar vs Gjallarhorn MS(mobile suit pilot) Julietta Juris piloting EB-08jjc Reginlaze Julia
Viper loaded with two nukes; job done
I wonder what a bottle of plus 150,000 year old ambrosia would taste like. Lol
Swill
@@johniii8147 lol. Probably
Remember why we're here, NUGGET.
Everything is good for you ladies and gentlemen.
What did Kat earn, the kill was handed to her by Buck and Kat behaves as if she accomplished it herself. What a joke of a character.
Seriously... Starbuck set her up to take the shot. Totally a team effort.
If we were all perfect, we'd all be identical. Or put another way, our imperfections are what differentiate us from one another. Aristotle came up with a system of 12 virtues set as the midpoints between 24 (12 pairs) different vices. Every vice is either an excess of a virtue, or a deficiency. For example, the one that I always remember is the virtue of courage. That's actually the midpoint between a vice of excess and a vice of deficiency... The excess is heedlessness, and the deficiency is cowardice. But consider also that as a midpoint, these virtues only exist as the "razor's edge" between the two vices. This edge is point-like, which means that it's infinitely thin -- we're always going to find ourselves on one side or another of that virtue midpoint.
It's also interesting to me that people don't care about the boastfulness of Starbuck, but are disgusted by Kat's 'unearned' boastfulness. It seems to me that the emphasis must be on the 'earned' or 'unearned' part, rather than the boastfulness itself as such. Maybe we just accept that Starbuck is allowed to boast because everyone agrees inside the show that she's such a good pilot. And maybe if this wasn't a show we would be disgusted by Starbuck's boastfulness as well... We do tend to love our heroes and especially our Christ figures.
@@shanejohns7901 I like your response and I see your point. A bit of disclosure, I can't stand this version of Starbuck, and I never understood why the character was made to be such an overly bearing and boastful character when the original was never like that. But I digress this is a different version of BSG and not ANYTHING like the original. I would never say this Starbuck was my Christ figure, if I had to... I would say Adama was. =D
@@Flielow Commander Adama was a Zeus figure. The president fits a bit as the wife of Zeus -- Hera. Starbuck was the Christ figure for the Colonials. And Baltar may have been the Christ figure for the Cylons.
It's just smack talk between pilots but in "reality", Starbuck would have gotten an assist credit or half the kill.
I’m on the younger end of sci fi fans and battlestar(particularly kara and roslin) shaped who I am as a person I think
They need to shake the camera more.
Hello Mr. Saul! Hope your feeling well now.
This was so good they should remake battlestar 1988
Oh wait caprica
Be in for the long run. All of you!
...so..... How does scar even have enough ammo to last this long?
Saddle bags
Those Cylon raiders are massive, the wings are probably full of rounds along with fuel (though I don't know if they even run on fuel).
@Ryan Serdan Which makes you wonder why he doesn't bring the entire Cylon fleet along with him.
@Ryan Serdan The Cylons had resources coming out of their behind, they had tons of basestars, and losing the irreplaceable
@@AGH331 Because their Resourrection ship had just been destroyed and the replacement wasn't there yet. The Cylons don't like real-death so much.
If they're playing chicken, why are they shooting?
never would have had the kill if it wasn't for Starbuck
Starbuck is da man.
The best frakin show ever. So say we all.
were those the names of the other jocks that lost their lives to Scar? or just lost jocks in general ?
In general...Flattop was the guy that got killed by the drone that fell off its rack during his 1000th landing celebration. I don't remember off hand how Crashdown died but it was before Scar.
@@Deathbecomesme3 Crashdown's Raptor was shut down over Kobol, took command of the survivors, and was killed by Baltar when he threatened Callie and the others because they wouldn't follow his orders, because everyone though they were bad, with an undergunned and underqualified team. But everyone told the story as Crashdown dying heroically to the Cylons to protect Baltar - and I guess a bit to preserve Crashdown's name, too. He was decent ECM officer, but he was out of his element on the surface of Kobol.
Katraine is not a character I like but she is a good character in my opinion
No problem!
you know theres a whole american coffee thing anmed after you in the past for some reason. RIP tsarbuck
Kat was a scared little girl trying to be the toughest badass on the playground. She redeems herself in the end.
To all of them, so say we all
6:18 "ffs Starbuck why are you such a buzzkill just git gud!"
Hmm, nobody pretending something is underrated in comments ?
Hello Ms. Starbuck! How are you?
The only thing wrong with this new series is the took all the old school lasers and everything that made the original the hit it was.
all hail the victorious dead
Facts!
Lol if u guys have peacock u can watch it for free I love the tv show I wanted to watch it bc of the Big Bang theory
Crashdown dodnt deserve props since he was about to kill Callie during a Mission, yet there being alternatives to the battle. But anyways, plot writing, yo....
Kat, propped up by Kara, so say we all.
Education!
At 5.06 to 5.09, picks bottle up and hand changes position, small error blink and its gone.
It is subtle, we cannot remember all of their names nor callsigns. My callsign is "Ginger". How about you?
*I love Kat*
Except he respawns.
And truth.
Jolly?
nickname from the original BSG
@@jonnyb70: I know, I’m surprised that they killed him off, however; I’m not sure if they killed him in the original series.
I believe he was killed off late in the book series.
Jolly was the leader of the Viper squadron in the miniseries who told Boomer/Helo to back off before the vipers got shut down and the raiders killed them all.
It’s a crying shame that Hollywood can’t make enough strong women heroine types to go around for all the great female actors.
hollywood seems to forget strong doesnt mean flawless. starbuck is an alcoholic degenerate screw up, but shes also brave and fearless in combat and loyal.
@@jebes909090 all hero’s are flawed, there is no such thing as a perfect hero. The reason, they are all human, with human frailties.
@@joenolasco3231 Rey and Captain Marvel have entered the chat…
So say we all.