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Got my first bike 2017. Was an old Honda NTV 650 and had it for a year. Dropped it three times and crashed almost several times. After that I upgraded to a Tracer 700 in 2018. Was a great choice. That Tracer 700 is still with me. With that Tracer I really learned how to ride a bike in corners. Foot pegs are almost scraped off. Rode from northern Germany to Austria in about 10 hours and made over 1000km in that time. My ass wasn't sore, my legs were fine and wind protection was good. I had the Yamaha Touring screen though. Compared to the Tracer 900 I had, the wind protection sucked on the 900, legs were more cramped and I didn't like the bike at all. Sold the 900 and bought another bike with CP2 engine. The Tenere 700. Now I have Tracer and Tenere and I'm more than happy. Haven't had any problems with the ABS and braking at all. I can do stoppies with my Tracer no problem. Brakes are gripping like crazy after I upgraded to steel braided brake lines. Suspension was too soft for my taste so I upgraded to Öhlins cartridge kit in front and bought a Wilbers shock absorber for the rear. The upgraded brake lines, the Öhlins cartridge kit and the rear shock are the best upgrades for the Tracer 700. You don't need anything else. Maybe upgrade to Conti Road Attack 4 tyres. For me the best on road tyres ever. The Tracer is under 200kg fully fueled has a short wheel base and is nimble as fuck. Touring version of the Mt-07. I don't see a reason why this shouldn't be a beginner bike. Maybe don't buy a brand new one as your first bike because eventually all new riders will drop their bikes and it will decrease its value. So buy a used bike as your first one! ABS can save your ass when the road is slippery. Don't see a reason why the brakes on the Tracer will be bad for beginners. I never had trouble with the brakes on my Tracer. The only thing I noticed when I start with a cold engine and slightly brake for the first time the ABS module goes crazy and makes sounds like a dying cat but is working just fine. Read about customers complained about it but was never a reason for me to take it to the dealership for warranty. I would advise everyone not to watch videos on YT but if possible ride the bike you want to buy yourself and not getting distracted by minute details nobody cares about. A lot of stuff talked about are just opinions and opinions are like a.....
Great feedback, thanks! You are right, everything is personal. That’s why I am sharing both good and bad things, but it doesn’t matter what is bad for me, would be bad for someone else. I personally like the bike, and have fun on it every time I rede it. You can watch my previous videos where I shared that. Thanks and Cheers!
That’s my first bike and I learned riding on that. I’m 6’1 tall and it was easy to keep balance. The bike is somehow light, easy to handle and it forgives some errors! The seat is hard though, and there’s a little play in the throttle which caused me to stall quite often at the beginning. also the bike is nervous and can be dangerous for a beginner. But overall, it’s a good bike and if you’re a beginner you should be very careful.
bike probably feel light cos you like me can flat foot with a nice bend in the knee which gives the confidence that if its going to drop, you can prevent it. at least that's how I feel riding different sized bikes
@komanguy at the moment i dont feel like going to the gym to build my muscles for my bike plus i love filtering and i just dont see myself doing that with a beast of a bike
As soon as you mentioned ABS intrusion in a wrong way, I knew you talk sincere and that you know what you say. On my MT07, it's the same to the point that I was shocked that the bike refused to brake while I was going very slowly and the car did emergency breaking in front of me to let pedestrian pass the road. I am looking to switch my MT for Tracer 7 GT because of added comfort and weather protection.
I‘ve seen many Tracer 7 review videos and they all mention the same points. Your review on the other hand really highlights some new points like the lack of traction control. I‘ve been riding a Honda CB650R for two years but it’s not comfortable on longer rides which I now do regularly. I will get my new Tracer 7 GT in a few weeks. I hope I won’t be disappointed!
Great video Sergey, you really gone into the details of the bike, very interesting regarding the abs situation, i wouldn't think Yamaha is that bad with the breaks, but i haven't tried any of the 700 platform.
Thanks Alin. Yeah, I am surprised as well. But I want to get to the bottom of it. I don’t believe that Yamaha would do a bad job on brakes. Maybe it is just a setup question. Who knows.
i ride,an xt600e,the last 10 years.i ride 28 years.my previus big bikes were crm250,tt600,fazer600.i ll buy a new bike ,not much expensive.i am 1.78.i m between new transalp and this.i test ride tenere and i didnt found the motor very strong.i sat on an tracer9 and didnt like it..i sat on one of this and i find it a little small.but i liked it.i like transap too.i like to go and on a dirt road some time,but my riding is 90% on ashalp. dont care about electronics.so what you say?
Probably Transalp will be overall better package for you. Tracer 7 can do light gravel, but this bike shines in the mountains on twisties. That’s my opinion. You can’t go wrong with either of those bikes.
Great video! Thanks for sharing that. As someone thats tall (187cm) and avout 100kg, I had been considering this bike (€9700 GT version) along with the TS660 (€8600 with side paniers) and Versys 650 (€7600 Tourer version). I'm a new rider, just passed my test and only have 1000km on a '09 Bandit 650S and prior to that a 1500km trip on a Honda XR150L (through rural Vietnam over two weeks). After that adventure in Vietbam I knew i had to get my licence and my own bike. After your review I'm thinking perhaps the Versys would be the best value of the 3 given the prices here in Italy. I'm just worried I wouldnt find it as fun (lacks power?) as the TS660 or Tracer 7. I had also considered the Transalp as I love the look and I know it would be a fun bike. Though perhaps a bit much for my level of experience, use case and its also most expensive (€10700 without panniers). I'm looking for something to use for weekend fun rides, hopefully some multi day tours and eventually 2-up riding once I gain more experience (and my gf comes around to the idea). What do you think would suit me best and is best bang for the buck? Ultimately though I'm hoping to test ride all of them.
I’d be choosing from Tracer, TS660, and Transalp. Those are the great bikes for what you want to do. TS is better in terms of comfort and tech, Yamaha more robust and fun, Honda will be the most capable, but price (you’ll need to spend extra for travel accessories) and tubed tires.
I test rode a tracer 7 with my wife as a passenger. There's not enough space for your passenger though. The seat is too short. Did you know yamaha give out download links for their Service Manual? Free
Even with its flaws, I love my Tracer 7 2023! But yeah, connectivity is almost non existant and abs is quite invasive. But after all, I love its simplicity, reliability, ease to drive, agility and low RPM torque! CP2 engines are great.
Very interesting review cause most of them are usually 'what a great bike it is' no matter wich bike. I'm a experienced rider looking for downgrading. Actually I dont agree in some of the opinions but anyway It gives me points of interest to look up in my next road test with this bike. BTW: I would never recommend a NC750 for a newby cause if they learn to ride with automated clunch they will never lear/like the manual ones. I think for a newby best bike its a second hand below 50 HP.
Thanks! It is ok to disagree with something, we all have different experience and so the opinions ;) I personally learned to ride old-school bikes, all manual. My first bike was Honda made in 90s. For me modern bikes cut the connection between me as a rider and motorcycle. But that's where we are now, which is ok :)
Hi Sergey, I'll probably upset a lot of Tracer 7 owners but I agree with your comments that the bike lacks alot of modern day rider aids for the price they are asking ! In Australia the Tracer 7 retails for $15,999 ! For an expensive bike that is marketed as a sports tourer it should come standard with cruise control, quick shifter, traction control and cornering abs ! It looks great, but fails to deliver! 😢
Nice video, but I do not agree with all of your comments. The plastic handguards are functioning very good. They kept my hands out of the wind during the wintermonths. Also I am not dropping my bike that often as you seem to do. I only dropped a bike in my 3rd year of the 37 years I am driving.. So if the price for a replacement for the handguard is not too high it is oke. I also did not mount a crashguard, because I never crashed a bike in all these years. The standard screen is rubish. It creates tooo much buffeting and I replaced it with a Puig touring screen for 100 euro. That solved the buffeting problem. The seat is much better then on the model before 2023. It is nearly as good as the comfort saddle from the older model. Soo no need to buy the gt model for that. Also in the small sidecases you can not fit a helmet, so in my opinion they are useless. Vibrations are not disturbing me. Not as much as they did on my FJR1300. These vibrations were a lot more disturbing. Not on the tracer though.. As you are not driving like a maniac, then the tracer is a perfect beginner bike. Also the fuelconsumption is very low. I use 1l on 24 km average. Sometimes even less. After all the bikes I have been riding I must say, the tracer 7 is the best. Even better then the tracer 9. 😁☝ ua-cam.com/video/kMCsj50FXFo/v-deo.html
Hi, thanks for the feedback. Please note, this video also targeting people with very little experience. I am not dropping bike often actually, but on our tours I can see people do it all the time. Sometimes because they are not familiar with the bike, sometimes because they are tired after the riding day, so that is the common situation. And that it is reason I mentioned that. I am actually like performance of the handguards, but my comment is related to fragility of that element. As per everything else, I mentioned that most things are personal and might not bother most people. Thanks for watching!
I recommend staying away from this motorcycle. I bought mine in May of this year, and the clutch failed within the first 1000 km. The dealer here in The Netherlands reported that other owners have the same fault, and they are at the moment clueless when we get the warranty claim. It is such a nice machine, but the clutch issued killed it all.
While on the highway the gear stuck moving from 2 upwards. It would not budge. It also showed error on display when trying to move from 2nd to 3rd. After many attempts I could shift the gear. I was lucky I could safely ride back home.
vorige week ik heb met de dealer krachtig gesproken met de papier van frabikgurarantie. 2 dag geleden hun mij gebelt. volgende week heb en afspraak te koppelling wisselen. Ik zal later update maken hoe gaat de motor nadat.
@@szymonchalupka If you've never rode a bike that resisted leaning into a curve where you have to overcompensate for the handling characteristics, then i hope you never do. In this bikes case, the dealer over aired the tires. When I set the cold tire air pressure to factory specs, the characteristic raised its ugly head. A motorcycle may stand up in corners for a number of reasons, including: Aggressive throttle An aggressive initial throttle can cause the bike to rock back on its rear tire, which can change the steering geometry and make the bike stand up. Center of gravity If the center of gravity is too high, too far forward, or too far back, it can make the bike unstable and cause it to pull to one side. Tire conditions The inflation pressure, tread depth, block profile, and wear conditions of the tires can all affect riding stability. Other reason: tire type and brand, crankshaft enertia, frame and swing arm issues, cheap suspension parts, ... I can't say why this particular bike did it, but I wasn't going to take a chance with it either. Enjoy your rides!!
@@chasoneyI had a honda cb500x before buying the Tracer 7... I found the Tracer a lot more easy to lean in corners, almost like it's doing it by itself compared to the cb500x. I think the tires might be a huge factor.
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How is it for tall drivers. I am 196 cm tall
Got my first bike 2017. Was an old Honda NTV 650 and had it for a year. Dropped it three times and crashed almost several times. After that I upgraded to a Tracer 700 in 2018. Was a great choice. That Tracer 700 is still with me. With that Tracer I really learned how to ride a bike in corners. Foot pegs are almost scraped off. Rode from northern Germany to Austria in about 10 hours and made over 1000km in that time. My ass wasn't sore, my legs were fine and wind protection was good. I had the Yamaha Touring screen though.
Compared to the Tracer 900 I had, the wind protection sucked on the 900, legs were more cramped and I didn't like the bike at all. Sold the 900 and bought another bike with CP2 engine. The Tenere 700. Now I have Tracer and Tenere and I'm more than happy. Haven't had any problems with the ABS and braking at all. I can do stoppies with my Tracer no problem. Brakes are gripping like crazy after I upgraded to steel braided brake lines. Suspension was too soft for my taste so I upgraded to Öhlins cartridge kit in front and bought a Wilbers shock absorber for the rear. The upgraded brake lines, the Öhlins cartridge kit and the rear shock are the best upgrades for the Tracer 700. You don't need anything else. Maybe upgrade to Conti Road Attack 4 tyres. For me the best on road tyres ever.
The Tracer is under 200kg fully fueled has a short wheel base and is nimble as fuck. Touring version of the Mt-07. I don't see a reason why this shouldn't be a beginner bike. Maybe don't buy a brand new one as your first bike because eventually all new riders will drop their bikes and it will decrease its value. So buy a used bike as your first one! ABS can save your ass when the road is slippery. Don't see a reason why the brakes on the Tracer will be bad for beginners. I never had trouble with the brakes on my Tracer. The only thing I noticed when I start with a cold engine and slightly brake for the first time the ABS module goes crazy and makes sounds like a dying cat but is working just fine. Read about customers complained about it but was never a reason for me to take it to the dealership for warranty.
I would advise everyone not to watch videos on YT but if possible ride the bike you want to buy yourself and not getting distracted by minute details nobody cares about. A lot of stuff talked about are just opinions and opinions are like a.....
Great feedback, thanks! You are right, everything is personal. That’s why I am sharing both good and bad things, but it doesn’t matter what is bad for me, would be bad for someone else.
I personally like the bike, and have fun on it every time I rede it. You can watch my previous videos where I shared that.
Thanks and Cheers!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, exactly what I was looking for.
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Yes, this motorcycle it's perfect for experience riders who search lightweight, pleasure and don't want big trail segment.
True
That’s my first bike and I learned riding on that. I’m 6’1 tall and it was easy to keep balance. The bike is somehow light, easy to handle and it forgives some errors! The seat is hard though, and there’s a little play in the throttle which caused me to stall quite often at the beginning. also the bike is nervous and can be dangerous for a beginner. But overall, it’s a good bike and if you’re a beginner you should be very careful.
bike probably feel light cos you like me can flat foot with a nice bend in the knee which gives the confidence that if its going to drop, you can prevent it. at least that's how I feel riding different sized bikes
@@ThePresidentofMars Exactly! and sometimes, I found the bike somehow low. The r1250 gsa has the perfect height for me but is heavy!
@komanguy at the moment i dont feel like going to the gym to build my muscles for my bike plus i love filtering and i just dont see myself doing that with a beast of a bike
As soon as you mentioned ABS intrusion in a wrong way, I knew you talk sincere and that you know what you say.
On my MT07, it's the same to the point that I was shocked that the bike refused to brake while I was going very slowly and the car did emergency breaking in front of me to let pedestrian pass the road.
I am looking to switch my MT for Tracer 7 GT because of added comfort and weather protection.
ABS on this motorcycle is my biggest disappointment as that is safety related issue I'd say
I‘ve seen many Tracer 7 review videos and they all mention the same points. Your review on the other hand really highlights some new points like the lack of traction control. I‘ve been riding a Honda CB650R for two years but it’s not comfortable on longer rides which I now do regularly. I will get my new Tracer 7 GT in a few weeks. I hope I won’t be disappointed!
Good choice! I really hope it won't disappoint ;) Come back and share your experience when you get it.
Got a 2022 Tracer 7 and i am still in love with it.
I bought a Chigee dashcam system which also gives with TPMS and Wireless Carplay
I only want ABS on the motorcycle, good lighting, and a comfortable seat, nothing more. I don't need a million sensors for everything.
That’s true, if you want to have proper riding experience, you don’t need those.
The seat is hard, and I broke the plastic mounted on the handlebar is very fragile!
I think that seat is ok, but rear suspension is stiff. Plastic is fragile, I agree.
Great video Sergey, you really gone into the details of the bike,
very interesting regarding the abs situation, i wouldn't think Yamaha is that bad with the breaks, but i haven't tried any of the 700 platform.
Thanks Alin. Yeah, I am surprised as well. But I want to get to the bottom of it. I don’t believe that Yamaha would do a bad job on brakes. Maybe it is just a setup question. Who knows.
i ride,an xt600e,the last 10 years.i ride 28 years.my previus big bikes were crm250,tt600,fazer600.i ll buy a new bike ,not much expensive.i am 1.78.i m between new transalp and this.i test ride tenere and i didnt found the motor very strong.i sat on an tracer9 and didnt like it..i sat on one of this and i find it a little small.but i liked it.i like transap too.i like to go and on a dirt road some time,but my riding is 90% on ashalp. dont care about electronics.so what you say?
Probably Transalp will be overall better package for you. Tracer 7 can do light gravel, but this bike shines in the mountains on twisties. That’s my opinion. You can’t go wrong with either of those bikes.
nice video!
Great video! Thanks for sharing that.
As someone thats tall (187cm) and avout 100kg, I had been considering this bike (€9700 GT version) along with the TS660 (€8600 with side paniers) and Versys 650 (€7600 Tourer version).
I'm a new rider, just passed my test and only have 1000km on a '09 Bandit 650S and prior to that a 1500km trip on a Honda XR150L (through rural Vietnam over two weeks). After that adventure in Vietbam I knew i had to get my licence and my own bike.
After your review I'm thinking perhaps the Versys would be the best value of the 3 given the prices here in Italy. I'm just worried I wouldnt find it as fun (lacks power?) as the TS660 or Tracer 7. I had also considered the Transalp as I love the look and I know it would be a fun bike. Though perhaps a bit much for my level of experience, use case and its also most expensive (€10700 without panniers).
I'm looking for something to use for weekend fun rides, hopefully some multi day tours and eventually 2-up riding once I gain more experience (and my gf comes around to the idea).
What do you think would suit me best and is best bang for the buck? Ultimately though I'm hoping to test ride all of them.
I’d be choosing from Tracer, TS660, and Transalp. Those are the great bikes for what you want to do. TS is better in terms of comfort and tech, Yamaha more robust and fun, Honda will be the most capable, but price (you’ll need to spend extra for travel accessories) and tubed tires.
@@SergeyVikultsev Thanks!! You left out the Versys because lack of power? Would the TS be a bit small for my height? Though I have a shorter inseam..
@@iJohnnyChristmas versys is a boring motorcycle in my opinion, although it is super versatile.
I test rode a tracer 7 with my wife as a passenger. There's not enough space for your passenger though. The seat is too short.
Did you know yamaha give out download links for their Service Manual? Free
I dont know anything about service manuals.
@@SergeyVikultsev repair your bike yourself? With factory information
Even with its flaws, I love my Tracer 7 2023! But yeah, connectivity is almost non existant and abs is quite invasive. But after all, I love its simplicity, reliability, ease to drive, agility and low RPM torque! CP2 engines are great.
Very interesting review cause most of them are usually 'what a great bike it is' no matter wich bike. I'm a experienced rider looking for downgrading. Actually I dont agree in some of the opinions but anyway It gives me points of interest to look up in my next road test with this bike. BTW: I would never recommend a NC750 for a newby cause if they learn to ride with automated clunch they will never lear/like the manual ones. I think for a newby best bike its a second hand below 50 HP.
Thanks! It is ok to disagree with something, we all have different experience and so the opinions ;) I personally learned to ride old-school bikes, all manual. My first bike was Honda made in 90s. For me modern bikes cut the connection between me as a rider and motorcycle. But that's where we are now, which is ok :)
Hi Sergey, I'll probably upset a lot of Tracer 7 owners but I agree with your comments that the bike lacks alot of modern day rider aids for the price they are asking ! In Australia the Tracer 7 retails for $15,999 ! For an expensive bike that is marketed as a sports tourer it should come standard with cruise control, quick shifter, traction control and cornering abs ! It looks great, but fails to deliver! 😢
It is what it is, right? You trade reliability for modern tech.
at least for the tracer 7, cc and tc arent possible because the bike isnt 'ride by wire'.
Nice video, but I do not agree with all of your comments.
The plastic handguards are functioning very good. They kept my hands out of the wind during the wintermonths. Also I am not dropping my bike that often as you seem to do. I only dropped a bike in my 3rd year of the 37 years I am driving.. So if the price for a replacement for the handguard is not too high it is oke. I also did not mount a crashguard, because I never crashed a bike in all these years. The standard screen is rubish. It creates tooo much buffeting and I replaced it with a Puig touring screen for 100 euro. That solved the buffeting problem. The seat is much better then on the model before 2023. It is nearly as good as the comfort saddle from the older model. Soo no need to buy the gt model for that. Also in the small sidecases you can not fit a helmet, so in my opinion they are useless. Vibrations are not disturbing me. Not as much as they did on my FJR1300. These vibrations were a lot more disturbing. Not on the tracer though..
As you are not driving like a maniac, then the tracer is a perfect beginner bike. Also the fuelconsumption is very low. I use 1l on 24 km average. Sometimes even less. After all the bikes I have been riding I must say, the tracer 7 is the best. Even better then the tracer 9. 😁☝
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Hi, thanks for the feedback. Please note, this video also targeting people with very little experience. I am not dropping bike often actually, but on our tours I can see people do it all the time. Sometimes because they are not familiar with the bike, sometimes because they are tired after the riding day, so that is the common situation. And that it is reason I mentioned that. I am actually like performance of the handguards, but my comment is related to fragility of that element.
As per everything else, I mentioned that most things are personal and might not bother most people. Thanks for watching!
I am looking to replace my screen any chance you could link to the one you got?
@@uncaring77 louis MT-07TRACER 20- LICHT GET
U Dont really say WHY not for a beginner
No traction control, managed to brake traction quite easy...
@@andrasfoodlab thank u
Going to swap mine Tracer 7 for a Tracer 9. The Tracer 7 s so slow.
I recommend staying away from this motorcycle. I bought mine in May of this year, and the clutch failed within the first 1000 km. The dealer here in The Netherlands reported that other owners have the same fault, and they are at the moment clueless when we get the warranty claim. It is such a nice machine, but the clutch issued killed it all.
Thanks for sharing! How exactly did it fail? What are the symptoms?
While on the highway the gear stuck moving from 2 upwards. It would not budge. It also showed error on display when trying to move from 2nd to 3rd. After many attempts I could shift the gear. I was lucky I could safely ride back home.
Ai dat is niet best en ik zat deze bike ook te overwegen. Even afwachten dus.
vorige week ik heb met de dealer krachtig gesproken met de papier van frabikgurarantie. 2 dag geleden hun mij gebelt. volgende week heb en afspraak te koppelling wisselen. Ik zal later update maken hoe gaat de motor nadat.
Owned one, bought it new.
Sold it after 6 months,such a boring bike, nothing special at all...
What sort of “special” you are looking for when you choose the bike?
I rented one for a week and it wanted to stand up in corners. It had less than 1,500 miles on it. After that, I didn't want to buy one.
For some people this is not a good bike. That was my point in this video.
What does it mean "stand up in the corners"? I have ordered one after a 3-hour test ride and it was performing very well in the corners.
@@szymonchalupka If you've never rode a bike that resisted leaning into a curve where you have to overcompensate for the handling characteristics, then i hope you never do. In this bikes case, the dealer over aired the tires. When I set the cold tire air pressure to factory specs, the characteristic raised its ugly head.
A motorcycle may stand up in corners for a number of reasons, including:
Aggressive throttle
An aggressive initial throttle can cause the bike to rock back on its rear tire, which can change the steering geometry and make the bike stand up.
Center of gravity
If the center of gravity is too high, too far forward, or too far back, it can make the bike unstable and cause it to pull to one side.
Tire conditions
The inflation pressure, tread depth, block profile, and wear conditions of the tires can all affect riding stability.
Other reason: tire type and brand, crankshaft enertia, frame and swing arm issues, cheap suspension parts, ...
I can't say why this particular bike did it, but I wasn't going to take a chance with it either.
Enjoy your rides!!
@@chasoneyI had a honda cb500x before buying the Tracer 7... I found the Tracer a lot more easy to lean in corners, almost like it's doing it by itself compared to the cb500x. I think the tires might be a huge factor.
Did you check tire pressure? The Tracer 7 is normally extremely neutral in corners. Low tire pressure changes everything....
Why, on Gods green Earth would you want telephone calls on a bike? I ride my bike to get away from that.
Agreed