Growing a Pine Tree from Seed - 0 to 1 year old
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2022
- In this video we'll be following the journey of a young pine tree. I collected pine seeds locally and documented my attempt to grow them. We'll be following these seeds through the germination process and monitoring our young pine tree through its first growing season.
I'd love to hear from you all what you think of my tree and anything I can do to help set it up for success! I hope we can use the comment section below and together build a resource that helps people grow more trees.
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How to collect pine tree seeds:
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Found a young pine while cleaning out my gutters. Apparently it's about a year old too. It's much happier in it's new pot.
Niiiice, love that. Nature always finds a way! Best of luck with your new tree!
Im growing a spruce its almost 3 years old now im also starting a sequoia and soon white pine hope ur tree lives healthy good luck
@@TIMOTHYEET69420 my sequoia tree which is about 10 years old has done amazing, good luck with yours.
😂😂 imagine if you didnt get to those gutters for a few years.
yeah, after waiting 2 months, seeing a seedling emerge is a great feeling
For those wondering- yes you can cold stratify by putting some dirt in a zip loc bag, then your seeds, then a little water. Leave in fridge for 60 days. After that, pull out seeds and plant in regular pot with heating pad under the pots for a couple weeks. That's how I did it.
But not all pines require cold stratification.
I've even had some germinate in the bag in the fridge, so I second this method
I have struggled to find content like this. I’m growing a bunch of different tree species from seed this year for the first time! They do take so long to germinate, I thought they weren’t going to work but I’ve seen a lot of action in the last couple weeks.
Best of luck with your new baby trees!!
i just bought some blackpine seed ,and planted yesterday....fingers cross !!
I’m trying to grow eastern hemlock in Michigan. I collected the tiny cones last fall, got about 60 seeds out, put them with a damp paper towel in a ziploc bag in the fridge for 90 days, and then took the bag out and put it in a sunny window this March. I have 11 seedlings now! I bought a seedling tray with a cover so I can make sure they don’t dry out and put used aero press filters in the bottom of the tray to keep moisture (and soil) in. The tray has a tray it sits in as well which I think will help prevent overwatering and drying out. I think filtered sunlight will be best because these seedlings would usually be in quite a bit of shade in the understory. For soil, I used 1/2 potting mix and 1/2 composted cow manure. Wish me luck!
So, what works best for me is I put my seeds in the soil when I harvest them, then I leave them outside, and don’t worry about them till spring, when routine watering begins. It’s easy and I get 95% success ( I counted)
Thanks for sharing! I'm attempting that this season 🤞🤞🤞
what temperatures do you get during winter? would this years unusually warm winter be insufficient?
@@neilaleksandrov2655 this year has been one of the coldest years on record but as long as the tree your looking to grow lives in your growing zone it should be fine. They need to feel the temperatura changing so outside is better.
It’s warmest on record winter in New York, where do you live? I need to go to you lol.. (for nice cold weather)
So you leave them outside,, any protection necessary from rodents or chipmunks and the like? I am guessing there snow cover for a good period of winter up by you… (just trying to recreate conditions the best way)
Cheers!
@@neilaleksandrov2655 I’m from the southeast, I just soak the seeds for a day then put ‘em in soil in a tub/ bucket and cover that with leaves. I have grown chestnut which squires love no problem. If they are a real problem cover it with mesh.
The more trees we have the better it is for the planet . Good to see so many people who care!! We need take care of planet earth. 🌏
Couldnt agree more Scaredy!!
There are invasive trees.
Can you name some I'm very interested in avoiding some in my future arboretum @@jonathankr
Pine like hot temps, and soil on the acidic side. The branching you’re looking for will start at year 2. It’s called a whorl, ( like a node on a cannabis plant) and when you look at a pine or spruce tree, the distance between each whorl is a years growth.
Great info Tom, thanks for sharing! Here's hoping this little tree makes it that far!
@@JimmyBHarvests Pine also don’t like wet feet, or shade. So they need well drained soil, and full sun. Black spruce enjoy shady, boggy areas.
In here they grow in highland, cold temperature. I bought one to grow in low land. Now I'm confused, seing this comment. The merchant says put it in shaded area.
@@Jen-me5jm spruce like shade, pine like sun. What species of pine did you buy?
@@tombryant4518 they are called Benguet Pine tree here, other name i saw is Pinus Kesiya 🤔
In 1996 my family moved from Phoenix to a one acre+ property in a subdivision in the forest of northern AZ. There was pine trees on the property and one was young. It came up to about my knees, I was 14 years old. We would keep an eye on it just out of curiosity to see how fast it would grow. Even decorated it a few Christmas seasons. I was visiting there just recently, this many years later, and it honestly hasn't grown a whole lot. It's still a fairly small tree, still coming up to about my knees. I've grown some since then, and it's stayed at my knees since I've known it.
Interesting! Wonder why its grown so little.. maybe a desert thing?
They mature at 80 years!
They also live to 2000 years! Slow and steady..
@@hobbyhobbyhobbyhobby the most common pine in my area only lives a few hundred years i think
That's so fascinating and strange! I planted an Austrian pine in my backyard about 8 years ago and it really hasn't grown much at all. But it is still alive. I'm really not sure why it's staying so small, but it's actually got a nice shape, kind of like a Japanese mountain tree that's been dwarfed by the wind and harsh elements....and I planted it in my Japanese garden, so the weatherworn shape actually fits right in very well. 😊 Your comment has me wondering if mine will ever grow very tall, or perhaps both yours and mine are of some rare mutation that keeps a tree naturally small? Very interesting....
As you mentioned Jimmy, it is a shame there aren't more UA-cam videos about growing trees from seed. I am trying to grow Douglas Fir and Pine from seed, it's working so far, but I agree there should be more YT videos / channels on the topic.
can you make a video of your tree growth pleas
@@notavailable9479hey, unfortunately I accidentally nuked my seedlings with too much compost. But I have apple trees growing from seed right now, and two walkway-crack rescued pine seedlings.
Yay I planted a random seed from a pine cone from a Christmas decoration and it's sprouted up just like yours. The little stem was turning brown and I instantly thought it was dying because I'd watered it too much but seeing yours is the same is reassuring!
The next time you try planting the seeds, try soaking them for twelve hours. A lot of gardeners use this method on their seeds, so it might work with pine. Good luck!
My stone pine tree has just germinated, very excited.
Lets goooo good luck!
I would recommend not using fabric pots as they dry out the soil faster outdoors, also add some beneficial bacteria to the soil and some mycorrhizae. This is pretty significant for pine trees as they need that symbiotic relationship to help break down nutrients in the soil.
Appreciate the tips, Nick! thanks for sharing
Endo or ecto? Do they prefer and fungal, or bacterial dominant soil?
@@tombryant4518грибов.
you got to sand the seed hard shell to sprout the seeds faster
Wow beautiful Tree ^^
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My friend, thank you for good sharing
Thank you for making this. I noticed the same disparity in information on young pine trees.
Thanks for sharing. These trees do grow slow. Im in texas and have one pine tree. It grew by itself in another pot and i separated it. I also grew bald cypress from seed and those grew very fast
Great vids, JimmyB! Thanx!
Glad you like them! 🙏
Great help! we drove to the south of France from the UK last summer from the UK and the streets were lined with (I think) Mediterranean stone pine trees, the floors were littered with huge pine cones and the kids collected loads. When we arrived home and unloaded the car one of the large pine cones got chucked into a plant pot by the front door(it seems to be full of stones and junk from various holidays and beaches etc).
Early this spring we noticed it had opened up in the heat and dropped all its seeds out and the pot literally had 15 of these things with the seeds still on the top of them growing, so after a while we moved them all, as a experiment most are in little pots with compos in a corner where it gets sun all morning but not in the evening so hopefully won't dry out, 2 or 3 are just in a flower boarder spread out. Going to see how they all do obviously upgrading the pot sizes as they grow into saplings fingers crossed. They sell for about 100 when they about 30 inches from what I can see so definitely a new holiday hobby in the future haha.
That sounds like a lot of fun and a great holiday activity. One word of warning, be careful introducing not native species to your area.. especially if you’re thinking of selling them because there’s no knowing where those will end up. Would definitely be worth looking into whether or not those Mediterranean pines will be a healthy addition to our ecosystem. All the best and happy planting!
Just planted juniper virginianus seeds. Good to know it may be two months before I see any signs of success
Very informational video
Jimmy, I can share my experience, germinating Ponderosa Pine seedlings in Colorado. I've had success germinating them several times in the past, after keeping them in the freezer, packed in compost, for a couple months. After thawing, I would keep them at room temperature, still packed in their baggie full of compost. Every few days I pour out the contents onto a tray, under a good light, and pick out the seeds that show their little white root starting to grow. The white roots stand out against the black compost, making it easy to pick out the newly-germinated seeds every week. The germinated seeds then go into sandy compost in seed trays, while the rest goes back into its baggie for another week.
I just love the little pine seedlings, just after they emerge from the soil. When their seed pods are still attached, but the first set of green pine needles have started to swell out from under the seed, that distinctive shape really appeals to my soul.
The Ponderosas are dropping their seeds now in Colorado. I have one bag of seeds already in the freezer, and I'm collecting more seeds every day.
Love that, thanks for sharing! Baby pines bursting from the seed is quite beautiful. How many pine are you growing now and how old/big are they getting?
Once your seeds germinate and you plant into seed trays, where do you grow them on? Is outdoors too cold? Asking from Wisc zone 5. Thankyou
@@JimmyBHarvests @colleengiese I'm just now taking last fall's seeds from the freezer, ready to start germinating them. As they germinate, I plant them into "tree tubes," specialized tall, narrow pots designed to allow the tree's tap root to develop. The tree tubes are 10 to 12 inches deep, while only two to three inches wide at the top. I'll leave the seedlings in the tree tubes, buried in loose sand, until the fall. Then, I'll plant some into their final site, while allowing some of the seedlings to remain n their pots overwinter, and move them to their final site in the early summer.
While I'm successful germinating most of the seeds, I lose the majority of them to mice and ground squirrels. They are susceptible to being chewed off by mice until they are a couple years old.
I wish I could find a way to protect them better after setting them out! It's hard see so many of them die!
We add a couple hundred seedlings each year, but only about a quarter of them will survive.
this type of pine will take its time developing long and deep roots. Get a long rounded pointed dibble bar and plant the seedling (review the technique as to how to plant a tree using a dibble bar but in this case use the point one). Once the roots are well established (3 to 4 years), it will take off like you won't believe. After 4 years, you won't be able to keep up with the incredible growth. Stratification in a fridge is essential before planting the seeds. This will give you high rate of germination. Browning of the leaves for pine is not a good sign and if the problem continues, they eventually die. But this type of pine "wants to live " unlike other types like Virginia pine cannot grow unless in groups and are warm.
Thanks for sharing James! I will have to look into a dibble bar never heard of that!
Pine trees really like Spray-N-Grow.
for anyone wanting to know, you cant toss the seeds in an open food bag with a little soil, enough to cover them, lightly soaked in your fridge top shelf for 2-4 week and then plant them. i tried this after finding it online and experimented a bit and fount this time frame is best depending on your fridge temp, i tried with 3 seeds planting them at week 2,3 then 4 and 3 worked perfect, have a nice happy healthy pine growing outside not to mention this was mid summer, it did grow quite slow due to the lack of summer time but now its going into spring, trees are budding, the sun is rising higher in the sky giving more sunlight and every other day i come out and im shocked at the sudden progress its got since i last looked
Good start, want to try my hand at this myself as we should of planted on our property like 10 years ago
Thanks! No time like the present to get started! Best of luck getting going hope you get lots of trees
I've tried several stratification methods and my most successful by far is putting the seeds in seed-starting soil in cell trays after collecting them and sorting for likely viability (soaking and waiting for some to sink to the bottom of the glass, which are the ones most likely to germinate), and then putting the cell tray in a plastic bag, refrigerating the whole tray, pulling out in the Spring and setting in a southern window on a heat mat. With this method, I have had 5/8 Douglas fir seeds emerge so far. I am happy for this video as there is very little information online about how to care for the seedlings in the first 2 years. (fertilize? acidify soil? water schedule?) and would appreciate any and all information about that. I believe the quick transition from refrigerator to heat mat sort of shocks the seeds into germinating. That they are already in the environment for this to happen, helps. One method that *didn't* work well was putting the seeds in slightly damp paper towels, then in a plastic bag, and then in the fridge.
Great content! I just get some from a park in Norway when I was in holiday and I'm looking to plant them.
Thats sick! Best of luck with your seeds!
I put my baby trees in a fish tank, a sort of terrarium, so its protective like a miniature greenhouse.
Thats siiiick! Ive seen some content in that space, it's super cool. Best of luck with your trees!!!
How often did you have to water them after planting the seeds? I'm growing some Norway spruce trees from 12 little seeds. I put them in individual solo cups with holes I cut in the bottom of them. Will that work?
I was really happy to get my wild plum seeds going this year after 6 months in the fridge! And I put ponderosa pine and rocky mountain doug fir seeds in fine mesh bags under a melting snowbank and then sprouted them in vermiculite this week. It's all looking good so far. I hope it works!
Good luck!! 🤞
I pulled a couple pine seedlings growing in the cracks in my driveway, i messed up the roots pretty bad, but they’re still both doing well. I know the best time to move or repot trees is early spring, but its winter now and I believe that because they are dormant now they are very resilient. Your tree should do fine outside in the winter, its actually better off than if you were to bring it inside.
Best of luck with them! I think you're on to something there
Put them into a hydroponic process too. Try planting them in individual wedge type starter trays. You can cut the little wedges out and put them in a bag that the nutrient will go through but the dirt won't get out.
Im growing 8 in my window ledge indoors. I found outside in too much sun was killing them as I started with 15. So far 8 green and very rubust now that they are indoors. 😊👍
Best of luck with your pines!!
Alhamdulillah, good information for myself to apply it.
Mine does that browning of leaves too, is that normal?
Also any update on the pines?
Don't know just found a Sprouted cone recently. give it a couple more months to a couple of Years and you'll have your Branches, The Trunk of every tree is a Stem at first then the rings take hold and you have a Trunk. Well from what I've noticed about Pines is some Browning will occur but might I suggest some Fertilizer like Miracle Grow Plant food Spikes.
I have loads of very old Scot’s pine near my house and I’ve been looking for seedlings for the last few years and I never find any. I want them for bonsai but can’t get one. I’ll start looking for seeds I suppose but I can only seem to get acorns to germinate.
Hi Jimmy, how is your tree doing now?
My late mother's grave has a small beautiful pine tree growing on it. Judging by its size it also must be around 1yo. Since my mom's bones will probably be lifted this year I'm planning on transplanting this baby pine to a place close to our home but I'm a bit nervous about it, afraid that it'll die in the process...
I'd really love it to survive and become a fully grown beautiful pine tree one day.
Sorry about your mom and best of luck moving the tree! My understanding is if you were to take the dirt around it as well, keeping the roots unexposed and everything together, itd have better chances. Im a noob though, definitely research it. Good luck 🤞
Thank you! I'm sure I'm 10x the noob that you are, I've never done nothing remotely similar before. I've been following your advice and found several great videos, I'll leave two of them here for anybody who finds this interesting. (btw, I'm from Portugal, mild and sunny weather most of the time here, we also have lots of pines, this shouldn't be too difficult...)
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it doesn't grow much in a year. I was very happy when mine sprouted. I live in the mediterranean are. I put a couple of seeds from pine cones. A little plant emerged in a couple of weeks but I had to travel and it dried after one week of intense heat in early october. I brought it inside but as it dried I noticed to my surprise a new one sprouted and it looks healty. d but since it's fall and getting colder I am keeping it indoors until spring.
you should consider an automated irrigation system. Sprayers are superior to drip in my experience but anything is better than nothing.
Maybe try using super sprouter or dome helps with germination and humidity
Great idea, will look into those
I got some seeds from a pine cone in NH I'm just going to try and plant a few anyway and see what happens. I also wonder if the wet paper towel way will work ?
Best of luck! I've seen people do the paper towel method but havent tried it myself. The pine seeds need to be cols stratified before they can germinate though. They need a winter.
Should I use green pine cones that have blown out of a tree in high wind or old cones that fell off in the fall?
Old cones in the fall. Green cones wont have mature seeds yet.
Water in the evening rather than daytime so the moisture doesnt quickly evaporate.
Try a bottle top green house to keep it from frosting
Great idea
I have space to grow trees , Nd plant them for a job. I am currently making up some beds off the ground to control pests, I'd be interested to know about pest control from others
Best of luck with them! Would be interested to hear any ideas people have on that subject!
I found this massive (I assume pine) cone about a week ago the size of both of my fists together, I'm not sure if it's too old but there's seeds inside and I'd love to grow it into a tree, I've never seen anything like it.
Thats dope! Best of luck planting them hope some pop up for yuh! 🤙🤞
To encourage it to open, try putting it in a tray (aluminium works for me) somewhere it will get sunlight or direct heat. Soon, you might start hearing some strange pops, cracks as it reacts to the heat. If that doesn't work within a day or two, another thing to try is to leave it in water for a few hours then put it back under the heat/sun, so it gets the message "Time to open!". Some pines comes are technically known are serotinous as they may stay on the tree unopened for many years and will only open after some extreme heat - like a forest fire.
Another thing, google around and confirm you actually have a pine cone. Coulter pine cones (Pinus coulteri) are huuuge. If it's something other than a pine, then my tip may not help you.
i am trying second year to grow conifers from seeds i had no luck. i do stratification and can get about 90 of germination but once its seedling they all gradually wiltering off and die. i tried everything. different soils, special mixes for conifers, temperatures, i tried little bit of wattering, regular wattering, more wattering, tried small and large cointainers. i dont understand whats happening. anyone have any clue?
Lol I found myself with a baby pine that landed in with my mums that didn’t come back n now it’s kinda big growing fast. Idk why it’s growing fast lol must like the mum soil lol
A volunteer! That's awesome, best of luck with it should you keep it growing!
Hi, I am having difficulties trying to grow Douglas firs from seed, I have attempted 5 times now. I did the cold stratifying for 4 weeks and placing them on a heating pad to keep them warm and try to wake’em up from the dormant state.
I can’t seem to make it past that stage and not noticing any sprouting. Is there anything I can do to make progress?
I would stratify for however long your winters are, presumably a few months. And I would skip the heating pad. Do it outside and try to keep things as natural as possible.
That said i think its tough to get super high germination rates in general with tree seeds. Im new to it as well. Good luck!
@@JimmyBHarvests thanks
How long do the seeds have to be cold to bring them out of hibernation? I've been told that I can put them in the fridge to simulate winter. Is this true? For how long?
It depends on the variety. What are you trying to grow?
@@winderofcoils I'm growing both Desert Pine and Italian Cypress.
@@lazybiker234 this is the way I would do it for both of them. Soak the seeds for 24 hours in tap water, strain and then put in ziplock bags in slightly damp paper towels or damp perlite. Refrigerate the cypress for 3 weeks, the pine for a month. Check them occasionally to make sure they aren't too wet nor dry, just damp.
After the appropriate cold stratification time is up, remove the seeds and check for mold etc. If there is any mold I briefly wash them in 2 cups of cold water with a few tablespoons of hydrogen peroxide. I usually leave the seeds in a new damp paper towel in a new ziplock bag on top of the refrigerator to germinate and plant them as they germinate.
I would aim for however long winter is in that plant's natural habitat
How many times a day do you water it??
2-3 times per week
Would it work to put them in thr fridge for germination?
Ive read that its possible, but haven't tried it personally
@@JimmyBHarvests thanks, im giving it a try, from what i read you keep them in fridge for 60 days than plant. But the cones i picked were in early july so i doubt ill get anything!
Only one way to find out for sure 😂 grab a few more later in the season if you get a chance!
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I peep a different type of “tree” stalk at 2:42.
Miiight be bud but i think its actually pepper 😂
How is this doing now?
It was outside all winter. Looks pretty brown right now. Spring is just atarting so hopefully it starts to grow again. Time will tell. 🤞🤞🤞
How is it doing now? Still brown?
@@JimmyBHarvests We need an update, please!
Watch the video on 24 hours in the freezer stratification
Hello, i planted pine tree seeds and its alive. After a week it sprouted but they keep on dying. The base stem are roting. All my 50+ sprouts all died.
Make sure your soil isn't too cold, don't over water and that soil drains really well. I learned this the hard way after a few years of trying to sprout pine seedlings. I use a lot of perlite for drainage.
i have the same problem for 2years now and cant figure it out
Trees DO take longer to germinate, BUUUUUTTTT they are also very sensitive to temperature. Some will absolutely NOT germinate until the soil is X number of degrees. It's important to keep track of this to avoid rotting your seeds
Shape it for light efficiency at least a couple times a year.
Or, supplement with extra light for a couple hours a day... Change those hours dependent on tree's response...
Please don't make longer days.
Terry Erasmus is an authority in the topic.
A humidity dome.
That is what I am talking about let's plant some forest my friends let us make some oxygen
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fertilizer
Those pots are WAY too big for those tiny plants
Your soil looks dry.
Too wet
update year two of this plant please!!!