I just thought of this, when I saw the "Toddfather". A journeyman mechanic's tool storage!!! I was a journeyman mechanic, before a co-worker thought it would be funny to "play" with the jack while I was under the front end of a semi tractor. Anyway, I know its only rated for 800 lbs, but it can be the mullet storage business (heavier stuff) in front, party (lighter stuff) in the rear aka fishing poles, Coleman grill, hammock...
LOVE this 'diesel pusher' style storage drawer on the back!! It's NOT good if you have something stored but can't get to it!! This is GREAT place to store bicycles/kayaks/chairs/tables or anything!! WOW!! This elevated rear den is COOL!! The tan decor w/ stone surround is just very 'cabin-like' & is inviting!! Who doesn't ADORE a MASSIVE fridge??!! GLASS door on the oven!! LOVE the sealed burners that are WAY easier to clean!! I'm like a kid in a candy shop with this one!! :)
Haylett RV is that potentially because people in their mid 30s like me take one look inside and walk out? How would they know if we would buy one if they don't design for us? In not saying this is terrible by the way but there are certainly other rvs that are way more contemporary.
Definitely not saying you're wrong, but Montana is and has been THE #1 seller either overall in the fifth wheel market or at least in the high-profile class on years when its sister Cougar has been the #1 overall. They know their market best obviously. And conversations like this are EXACTLY why we carry more than one brand of fifth wheel here. Sometimes people say "You carry X and Y. You say they're both built basically the same. So why do you carry them both?" And the answer is "because sometimes people just don't like the look of one but love the other." Being multi-branded like we are at Haylett RV is very nice at times. Montana definitely has a classic classy "feel" about it. Looking for more modern? It doesn't get much more opposite of the spectrum of an Open Range with a Jayco somewhere between.
I'm in my early 40's and I think this is the most beautiful 5th wheel I've ever seen. Taste is a very individual thing and you certainly can add your own touches, once you own it.
Why does Montana take the time to hide the AC in the ceiling, but place the floor heater vents in the wrong locations, right where you walk or sit? That's the only thing I don't like.. Is it a deal breaker, probably not. Anyway, great info and video.
The logic behind the two is the same. The challenge is heating needs to be placed in the floor for efficiency, and efficiency is the exact answer to your question. Montana (and most of Keystone actually) runs a straight line heat plenum through their floor because it's the most effective and efficiency way to heat the RV. When you don't need the heating, then simply slide something over the vents, but when you DO need heating, then you'll appreciate why they're positioned accordingly.
Oh my goodness. That storage. I'm speechless. I need to figure out a way to make this work with 4 kids lol. Maybe they can sleep in the basement? :D Surely this will work for us! "Kids are happy sleeping anywhere" ~Joshua Winters
I have a dumb question. If you have a unit with a residential refrigerator, operating on electrical only, and you don’t have a generator, how can you possibly travel all day and still keep your food cold?
*EXCELLENT QUESTION!* Part of the cost of a residential refrigerator in a towable RV is a 1000w inverter that converts 12v power off the battery/tow vehicle charge line to power the fridge's cooling unit. It's not great for cooling off a fridge, but does well enough to keep it down to temp.
I love this RV! Could you possibly do a review like this for the cougar 366rds? This rig reminds me a lot of that one. Would love to have videos to compare. I found it. Thanks for so doing so many reviews!
You mean like this one? ua-cam.com/video/gwvFlTDM3Eg/v-deo.html Also, you might enjoy the Montana that falls between the 3790RD shown here and the 366RDS Cougar called the 372RD (Which you can see here: bit.ly/2U2Eyvr)
Josh - Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are at least 2 other differences between the Montana and the High Country. The roller shades and quiet cool a/c in the bedroom aren't available in the High Country if I'm not mistaken.
There's actually a fairly significant list of differences, Eric. Many of them are a little more trivial in nature. You've mentioned a few of the more significant qualities. The biggest thing is the "mindset" behind them: * High Country: Weight and Price Sensitive Large Fifth Wheel * Montana: Neither weight nor Price Sensitive Large Fifth Wheel.
Josh - I think I'm actually wrong about the roller shades. I just watched a couple other videos and they were on a High Country and even a Cougar 5th wheel. That is awesome that Keystone makes them at least available on their "lower" models. I wish Jayco offered them on their Eagles and Open Range on their Roamer 5ers. Do you think either Jayco or Open Range (Highland Ridge) would let you special order roller shades on a 355MBQS or a 374BHS?
How many shades of brown are there in rv world? I'm talking exterior paint. The more I see of this glamper, the more I want to travel. So I'd take the 3790 over the 3791... How big the rv fridge in the 3790?
Factory shipping to a local dealer generally runs more per-mile. That's something to keep in mind. If you're able/willing to make the drive, then the savings you'll enjoy will SIGNIFICANTLY outweigh the travel costs.
We’ve been mulling this over for about 8 months now. Might finally be a candidate for financing but the winter weather driving scares me. More to the point, Wyoming scares me lol. Where we are would take us right through there. Might have to wait for spring but I’d LOVE to go to Michigan. Never been and you’re about 4.5 hrs north of my little brother.
If you get off the highway this is an incredibly beautiful state -- especially around the northern lower peninsula and pretty much anywhere in the upper peninsula. The "UP" as we call it is one of the most forgotten parts of this state.
Shay Fields no way man this thing is far too heavy for your truck you need a 2500 3500 or 250 or 350 whatever truck you desire you need a heavy truck for this and I would recommend diesel that Colorado is no match for anything except a light little pop up they're not designed for that beautiful trucks but not designed for this kind of thing
13700 lbs. Kind of out a range of a half ton truck. If you try to put this behind a half ton truck, I will personal make the trip from WI to MI and hand you an 'I'm stupid" card and force you to duct tape it to the rear cap, so people who are following you, know!!! You know I won't, but you get my point!!!
I know, that's why dealers are more important than the products they sell... and THAT'S SAD... One of my former neighbors used his 1992 chevy s10 (he put a chevy 350 in) to tow his newmar mountain aire and 20 ft ski nautique at the same time!!! I warned him, but did he listen? Then he blamed me for warning him...
I love my mother in law too! She's awesome!
I absolutely love this floor plan. What a great design. Crazy amounts of storage. Beautiful interior!
I just thought of this, when I saw the "Toddfather". A journeyman mechanic's tool storage!!! I was a journeyman mechanic, before a co-worker thought it would be funny to "play" with the jack while I was under the front end of a semi tractor. Anyway, I know its only rated for 800 lbs, but it can be the mullet storage business (heavier stuff) in front, party (lighter stuff) in the rear aka fishing poles, Coleman grill, hammock...
i sooooooo love those steps!!!! saw this rig at the RV show here in Utah last February, sweet rig!
AGREED!! These are very cool NEW steps!!! :)
LOVE this 'diesel pusher' style storage drawer on the back!! It's NOT good if you have something stored but can't get to it!! This is GREAT place to store bicycles/kayaks/chairs/tables or anything!! WOW!! This elevated rear den is COOL!! The tan decor w/ stone surround is just very 'cabin-like' & is inviting!! Who doesn't ADORE a MASSIVE fridge??!! GLASS door on the oven!! LOVE the sealed burners that are WAY easier to clean!! I'm like a kid in a candy shop with this one!! :)
Did I mention that I LOVE the whisper quiet A/C? It's gets VERY hot & humid in North Carolina!! Is this Montana generator prepped?
Where's the CD/DVD/Bluetooth player that makes a salad? Is it behind one of those doors near the TV?
Whats the average temps range in the trailer with ACs on?
I want to know how long the slide storage area is!!??
10ft. Thought I mentioned that -- sorry!
They need to make a version of the decor for people in their 20's to 40's and not all decor that looks like it would belong in my grandparent's house.
People in their 20's and 40's aren't usually purchasing a Montana. Your grandparents are.
So... there's that.
Haylett RV is that potentially because people in their mid 30s like me take one look inside and walk out? How would they know if we would buy one if they don't design for us?
In not saying this is terrible by the way but there are certainly other rvs that are way more contemporary.
Definitely not saying you're wrong, but Montana is and has been THE #1 seller either overall in the fifth wheel market or at least in the high-profile class on years when its sister Cougar has been the #1 overall. They know their market best obviously.
And conversations like this are EXACTLY why we carry more than one brand of fifth wheel here. Sometimes people say "You carry X and Y. You say they're both built basically the same. So why do you carry them both?"
And the answer is "because sometimes people just don't like the look of one but love the other."
Being multi-branded like we are at Haylett RV is very nice at times. Montana definitely has a classic classy "feel" about it. Looking for more modern? It doesn't get much more opposite of the spectrum of an Open Range with a Jayco somewhere between.
I'm in my early 40's and I think this is the most beautiful 5th wheel I've ever seen. Taste is a very individual thing and you certainly can add your own touches, once you own it.
Jeffrey Hall the more I think about this I think it's just the valences that I hate. Switch those out and it might be good.
Why does Montana take the time to hide the AC in the ceiling, but place the floor heater vents in the wrong locations, right where you walk or sit? That's the only thing I don't like.. Is it a deal breaker, probably not. Anyway, great info and video.
The logic behind the two is the same. The challenge is heating needs to be placed in the floor for efficiency, and efficiency is the exact answer to your question. Montana (and most of Keystone actually) runs a straight line heat plenum through their floor because it's the most effective and efficiency way to heat the RV.
When you don't need the heating, then simply slide something over the vents, but when you DO need heating, then you'll appreciate why they're positioned accordingly.
Oh my goodness. That storage. I'm speechless. I need to figure out a way to make this work with 4 kids lol. Maybe they can sleep in the basement? :D
Surely this will work for us!
"Kids are happy sleeping anywhere" ~Joshua Winters
It ain't no lie. Hitch and bye-bye-bye.
Our favorite one so far.
You can see the current generation/updated model here: www.haylettautoandrv.com/rv/coldwater+mi/keystone+fifthwheel/12152/keystone+montana+3790rd
You sound like Allan from two and a half men!
Great video. Thanks
You're named a lot like a guy from Boogie Nights.
Guess we both have famous dopplegangers :)
Mother in law Storage? Cool thought, but if your wife hears this video- she will clock you!!
On the contrary! She'd be the first to volunteer to help load up! LOL
First time in years for me... it has been you who have rendered me speechless...(APPLAUSE)
Dream camper right here
😊
I have a dumb question. If you have a unit with a residential refrigerator, operating on electrical only, and you don’t have a generator, how can you possibly travel all day and still keep your food cold?
*EXCELLENT QUESTION!* Part of the cost of a residential refrigerator in a towable RV is a 1000w inverter that converts 12v power off the battery/tow vehicle charge line to power the fridge's cooling unit. It's not great for cooling off a fridge, but does well enough to keep it down to temp.
can solar power thru an inverter work also
at 19:48 he says "dual LED's" i think he meant USB's
You're absolutely right. There's a lot to cover in these & I have little moments like that sometimes. Thanks for the correction!!
I love this RV! Could you possibly do a review like this for the cougar 366rds? This rig reminds me a lot of that one. Would love to have videos to compare. I found it. Thanks for so doing so many reviews!
You mean like this one? ua-cam.com/video/gwvFlTDM3Eg/v-deo.html
Also, you might enjoy the Montana that falls between the 3790RD shown here and the 366RDS Cougar called the 372RD (Which you can see here: bit.ly/2U2Eyvr)
Josh - Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are at least 2 other differences between the Montana and the High Country. The roller shades and quiet cool a/c in the bedroom aren't available in the High Country if I'm not mistaken.
There's actually a fairly significant list of differences, Eric. Many of them are a little more trivial in nature. You've mentioned a few of the more significant qualities.
The biggest thing is the "mindset" behind them:
* High Country: Weight and Price Sensitive Large Fifth Wheel
* Montana: Neither weight nor Price Sensitive Large Fifth Wheel.
Josh - I think I'm actually wrong about the roller shades. I just watched a couple other videos and they were on a High Country and even a Cougar 5th wheel. That is awesome that Keystone makes them at least available on their "lower" models. I wish Jayco offered them on their Eagles and Open Range on their Roamer 5ers. Do you think either Jayco or Open Range (Highland Ridge) would let you special order roller shades on a 355MBQS or a 374BHS?
I thought I had to have a front living room...but really like this one other than maybe a little long...limits the sites
Montana 3160RL or 305RL are the smallest Montanas at just about 35ft
How long is the new rear slide out storage? 10-12feet? How long for kayaks etc? width height, length ? Thx!
Kevin Bruce no answer ? I'm interested as well!!
How many shades of brown are there in rv world? I'm talking exterior paint. The more I see of this glamper, the more I want to travel. So I'd take the 3790 over the 3791... How big the rv fridge in the 3790?
Same size. both are 18cu ft.
Not sure you’ll see this but I’m curious, how many thousands of dollars would it take to get something like this delivered to Eastern Oregon?
Shooting from the hip -- 3ish?
Factory shipping to a local dealer generally runs more per-mile. That's something to keep in mind.
If you're able/willing to make the drive, then the savings you'll enjoy will SIGNIFICANTLY outweigh the travel costs.
We’ve been mulling this over for about 8 months now. Might finally be a candidate for financing but the winter weather driving scares me. More to the point, Wyoming scares me lol. Where we are would take us right through there. Might have to wait for spring but I’d LOVE to go to Michigan. Never been and you’re about 4.5 hrs north of my little brother.
If you get off the highway this is an incredibly beautiful state -- especially around the northern lower peninsula and pretty much anywhere in the upper peninsula. The "UP" as we call it is one of the most forgotten parts of this state.
Is the bathroom door a hinge pivot door?
Yep! That's a standard item on anything in the Montana-family of RVs.
Can you put sliding storage tray in the front storage area?
No. It's 10ft deep and the trailer is 8ft wide.
can you have the solid screen door with window on these?
As long as it's not significantly thicker than a common screen door as seen here you can likely make it work. Haven't had someone inquire previously.
DO YOU HAVE ANY WITH BATHTUBS???
Yep: bit.ly/2OXvwkN
Whats the price ?
Links for pricing and availability in the description of every video. For your convenience: bit.ly/2ikR9ch
Hmmmm I think I may have found the one
Wait until you see the updated/current version: bit.ly/2LZski8
Can i hook this up to my 2010 Colorado?
*laugh* Hook it up? Maybe.
Move it? Probably not far without wrecking your truck!
Haylett RV Just making sure 😂
Shay Fields no way man this thing is far too heavy for your truck you need a 2500 3500 or 250 or 350 whatever truck you desire you need a heavy truck for this and I would recommend diesel that Colorado is no match for anything except a light little pop up they're not designed for that beautiful trucks but not designed for this kind of thing
13700 lbs. Kind of out a range of a half ton truck. If you try to put this behind a half ton truck, I will personal make the trip from WI to MI and hand you an 'I'm stupid" card and force you to duct tape it to the rear cap, so people who are following you, know!!! You know I won't, but you get my point!!!
David Aukofer sad thing is there are dealers that will let a 1/2 ton pull off the lot with a rig like this.
I know, that's why dealers are more important than the products they sell... and THAT'S SAD... One of my former neighbors used his 1992 chevy s10 (he put a chevy 350 in) to tow his newmar mountain aire and 20 ft ski nautique at the same time!!! I warned him, but did he listen? Then he blamed me for warning him...
How's that phase go, "you can't fix stupid"
David Aukofer that Montana looks that is not to spend the winter season in
I wouldn't pull this with gas burner 2500. Plan on going to see this RV, but I need a 3500 truck to tow safely Not sure I would w/ a 2500 deisel