@@l4nc3r Every time they even try the company just union busts, supposedly anti-union activity isn't allowed n the US and yet i see employers taking incredibly strong actions to prevent it. When it came out how incredibly toxic activison-blizzard was with a slew of sexual misconduct allegations and even a sexual assault allegation the company didn't try and do the right thing it just hired a bunch of lawyers who were practiced in anti-union activity... and also defending swiss banks that had taken nazi gold stolen from holocaust victims.
When I worked for AT&T, they fired a manager because she had to have time off because she was sick. She was hospitalized with a very rare complication of influenza. Basically, the flu virus started attacking her bone marrow, which is life threatening. It went to federal court which found AT&T was at fault and had to pay her back salary, bonuses, and give her back her job. They appealed the ruling. The appeals court upheld the lower court ruling. They tried to go to SCOTUS, but they wouldn't hear it. So she got her job back, back pay, back bonuses, and no loss of seniority. The management at AT&T was pissed, but what could they do? They still tried to screw her and harasser her, but the court intervened and threatened her bosses with time in a federal prison if they didn't comply with the order and leave her alone. Years later she retired from the company with full pension and benefits.
Honestly, if I had management like that and the full weight of the legal system was keeping an eye on this whole situation, I would actually stay at the job out of spite, and then also forward any instance of reprisal or discrimination from the company to the ministry of labour.
@@Sl4wt3r I take it that you're from the UK then? Different laws on the other side of the pond. We here in the US don't have nearly the amount of protections for workers that you guys have over there. That's why we have unions and collective bargaining agreements.
@38Maelstorm Not the UK, but our laws are very similar (not going to go further into it since net privacy is pretty important to me). Where I'm from, we have very robust Employment laws and it is fully illegal to act against an employee who has not done anything clearly illegal, and it is categorized as wrongful termination to dismiss an employee who has not done anything clearly against the best interest of the employing organization. Reporting clear bad actors is considered a beneficial act in the strictest sense as long as you otherwise aren't sabotaging the company. Of course this is an ideal scenario that doesn't assume corruption.
I worked in a call center years ago where a particularly objectionable supervisor tried to implement bathroom break requests (not company policy). I refused to participate and went as needed. When she confronted me, I politely invited her to organize a meeting with HR where we could discuss “her” policy. Funnily enough she abandoned her demands
I worked in a call center and the manager said we had to ask and wait to use the rest room. One day I asked to use it and she said no wait. I stood up and told her I was a 40 year old man and I decided when and if I was going to use it. Nothing was ever said to me relating to the bathroom again. I just told her I was going.
Because it's against the law! Yes, the Federal government had to pass a law giving workers the right to use a toilet because companies were refusing to allow employees to not pee and poop in their pants.
In addition to being condescending and unnecessary, denying people bathroom breaks is unhealthy. Holding your urine can cause infections and incontinence, among other things.
I worked at a call center where they implemented the bathroom request rule. (Though it was instituted because certain call takers would choose the busiest times to go use the bathroom- and come back with crap from the vending machine, while forcing their coworkers to carry their weight. Just as evil. ) I ended it by going into explicit detail about why I needed the bathroom. It involved the words "uterine sloughage"... The jackhole male supervisor was mortified. 😂😂
My Partner had cancer and she worked for a US multinational in ireland. They paid her in full all the time she was out sick and and when she said she wanted to go back to work they said no with no intention of cutting her pay. After she instead the said ok but only under the condition that she stopped work as soon as she felt unwell/tired. They did everything they could to help her. Unfortunately after being in and out of hospital for 6 months the chemotherapy was finally too much for her and she passed away. My boss told me not to come to work as he believed me being by her side was the difference between life and death. I was also paid in full for the 6 months. All treatment was of course free. This is why I would never live in the U.S. because the texts you read out appear to be the norm there.
Sorry for your loss. That treatment is because you are in Ireland, so the company sticks to local labour laws to avoid any problems. If you were in the USA, thing would have been far more grim for you.
Yes, I've seen a couple people on chemo and it pretty much destroys the body. If you're lucky, the chemo will destroy the cancer before the body is so destroyed that you can't continue, but chemo is hard. It's hard to say what would have otherwise happened, but it's completely disgusting that not only did they not give her any time off, but they also wouldn't allow people to donate their paid time off to her.
The family of the chemo patient has a lawsuit for wrongful death against that corporation. Lawsuits on the liver donor testing requirement. Lawsuits on the tornado warning.
For the liver testing one, I can understand a strong encouragement, offering free time off for people to get tested and reimbursing their medical expenses if they want to donate, but making people choose between donating their organs, which is a risky procedure, and their job, is not okay.
Banning employees from discussing compensation is illegal in both UK and USA. Forcing employees to take on ANY medical test is illegal in both UK and USA.
Something I repeatedly told my coworkers - it went all the way to SCOTUS, iirc - that we have every right to discuss our pay/raises even if it's "confidential".
And just because you signed an agreement saying you wouldn't doesn't trump legal rights. Illegal clauses occur in contracts all the time and it's possible the boss isn't even aware (I'm guessing by the misspelling of "acknowledge", that notice was drafted without consulting a lawyer or HR rep as most small businesses don't have those)
A few years ago, several people were killed in 2 instances of employers not allowing people to leave to seek shelter. One was an Amazon warehouse in St Louis, Mo, the other was a candle factory in Kentucky. In both cases, there was enough time that people could have gotten to stronger buildings to shelter in, but were told they would be fired if they left. Both buildings were flattened, and several workers died, many more were trapped and severely injured. I believe litigation in both instances is still ongoing ~
I heard about these two cases years ago. So ridiculous! I think that candles were more important that the lives of the employees? Wasn't there a story that a couple worked at the candle factory to make extra money for a home when the boyfriend was there and all of a sudden he was gone? I think inmates were also there on a work release program. Perhaps this is why the big bosses didn't care. As for Amazon? Nothing surprises me.
It's impressive that unions were formed, because it was legal for companies to delete workers. Like, you could just lock all the doors, and light the building ablaze. Totally legal. All was simply your property. And... now we are at an era where the GOP are all "We NEED to bring that back! Too many of these cretins think they DESERVE to live?!""
Years ago worked with a woman who had breast cancer. Had surgery, had time off for that and doctors appts. Before that, was always at work, never called off, never late. Come raise time she was not given a raise because of her "attendence issue". When she wanted to know what "issue" they told her about the days missed for her medical procedures. When she disagreed, saying it was CANCER, she was told "Well, you weren't here working, were you." Yes. Companies really are that horrible and disgusting.
I worked with someone who had cancer. Like the woman in the first story they would do chemo on their days off. Eventually they had to go on sick leave and was told by the company that the cancer wasn't their problem.
Yes! Anyone who tested as a match would be expected to donate. Curious if their expectations and the firings are sue-able. You can't force people to undergo major surgery and donate organs. EVERYONE should have quit. Employees aren't property to do with as they will.
A late friend of mine was fired by her employer as soon as they found out she had cancer. So no insurance, a battle to get some government care - was pushed to the end of the care line continually until she died.
Have a great story about this myself but it is too long for this platform. End result? My speech made it crystal clear that unless things are handled properly, I will bring in someone to do so. Meaning a malpractice suit and the paper trail is ten years . . .
My workmate found out he was being paid far less than the rest of the team, by several thousand pa for several years. To say we were shocked is an understatement. When we told him to raise this with our manager she was shocked as well. Got straight onto finance to sort it out. Turns out the contract he was on was correct at the time of him starting but had been overlooked in error as he progressed. It was sorted out in a couple of months with a massive pay jump to bring him in line with everyone else plus compensated with the back pay he had missed out on. He enjoyed his 2 week Spanish holiday that year.
A manager at my old workplace tried to give me a disciplinary for not coming into work on my day off, during a "red alert, danger to life weather warning" there was snow up to my knees, extremely high winds, low visibility and it was significant below 0. I advised him it was my day off, and also due to the weather there was no public transport, and no cars on the roads. He then said that I was expected to walk in during that weather, I lived about 5-6 miles from the workplace at that point.
I was a freelance contractor for 20 years. Typical contract would be 3 to 6 months. So you would do 2 or 3 contracts a year. Different clients of course. I turned up for an interview for a 3 month contract at a company. One interviewer, the HR lady, told me they were concerned about the number of employers I had on my CV. I thought "What??". I said "I'm a contractor. That's how contracting works. Short term contracts. Come on board, deliver a project and move on to the next one. Like the project you're interviewing me for". Some people are bewilderingly stupid. You wonder how they get their positions.
I used to do contract security. That is almost exactly how my former company worked. How strange that that interviewer did not understand how that position worked...
@@spartanmerc1 Not really. You tend to find HR people have no idea how the business works. They shouldn't he involved in the hiring process. They could never do the jobs themselves that they are looking to hire for.
A mate of mine got a job on a car assembly line. After he put in two day's work, he had to go to the toilet and it took his supervisor so long to find someone to take his place, he left the line and went anyway. This shut the whole assembly line down until he got back and that caused a huge argument between him and the supervisor. My mate, still wearing the company issued overalls, walked off the job without giving any notice, technically forfeiting the pay for the two days he had worked there. For years after this, at the end of each financial year, the car company would send him a bill for the cost of the overalls, which he would post back to them with a bill for the two day's pay they owed him! It gave us all a laugh for years!
The chemo one just pisses me off I work for a company where we have a doctor in another state that is dealing with medical issues and we all came together and collectively donated 33 days of PTO for him to use and the company matched it so now he has over two months to just focus on himself and be with his family. That’s how it should be.
I am actually surprised that work place violence against toxic bosses and owners is not a whole lot higher. I would not condone it, but I would understand it.
My auntie had cancer breat stage 4 and she was a nanny gor a wealthy company, the cro ketts. They paid her rent and her 10,000 dollars of chemotherapy plus all her surgeries. She still dies but this was not a corporate place just a good family caring for my auntie. Rip Carmen
Liver donor: I have some expertise on this subject. You go to be tested, tell them you are being forced, and they will categorise you as 'not a match'. I would also request the time off be provided by the employer as well as the mileage or public transport costs. Tell them anything to get this (I have no money to spare, I have no money for gas, my car is being repaired, my SO is using the car on that day).
Everyone in the medical field are all mandatory reporters too. So for SURE someone from the labor department is showing up after multiple employees report stories of forced organ donation testing. That could even end up being a criminal matter. I'm pretty sure extortion for organs is very illegal and that is what the owner basically did. "Get tested and give me your organ or you're fired" is a pretty clear cut case blackmail.
We had a cyclone coming over when I lived in Darwin Australia. I worked for a major grocery store at the time. Emergency Services were calling for all businesses to be closed and everyone to take shelter. The decision from corporate, on the other side of the country in Adelaide, was to keep the store open, and they'd let us know when to close. They also tried to tell us that once we closed they wanted us to lift anything at risk of water damage to higher shelves, after we'd closed before we left. We (the employees on the ground, actually at risk from the cyclone) closed and left a soon as Emergency services came and told us too. Sorry, my minimum wage is not with my life.
Surely just in the legal sense, the advice (if not orders) from Emergency Services trumps anything your braindead corporate hacks on the other side of Australia want? I mean, if anyone got injured or worse, they’d have their arses sued for everything.
@DougPaulley Nah. They would have been opening themselves to a law suit. The orders that they gave were well and truly against the safety of their workers, and while they claimed ignorance in the first part of it, sore management contacted work health safety Australia to call corporate on our behalf. I can only imagine the conversations that were had between them.
In the US, it is illegal to tell your employees that they can't discuss pay with anyone, anywhere, at any time, and the business can get in a lot of trouble for it.
@@isaiahlrice I didn't say people aren't stupid and have bad information, or are hoping you don't know your rights, I'm just saying they legally cannot tell you that. It would be hard to prove it without evidence, obviously, if you tried to report it, but knowing your rights, and letting someone else know that you know, gives you a lot more power and control over your own situations.
Exactly. That email was crazy. The entire staff should have gotten together and chipped in for a lawyer to send a cease and desist to the business on their behalf explaining to the employer they were violating the law and further legal action would be taken if necessary. This only happens because people don't stand up for their rights and cower instead.
@@isaiahlrice: The HR director needed a grievance filed against them, as no sane government manager would risk that large of a union complaint against them.
So the guy demanding his employees get tested? I’d go to get tested… and I’d tell everyone at the hospital that he was coercing people into giving up their organs, basically paying for a liver donor (which is completely illegal). It would end with every single employee being unallowed to donate, even if they had actually wanted to. Some hospitals would refuse to allow for a living donor at all at that point, to play it safe as paying for organs can affect the hospitals status as a transplant facility.
As far as I'm aware, you have to be dead to donate your liver? I think they've tried liver lobe transplants, but that's not good for donor or receiver.
@@Sed_Contra may not be legal, but that sure as heck doesn't stop them from doing it. When I was pregnant with my son it was a high risk pregnancy. The doctor wanted to see me on a weekly basis to monitor my progress. My supervisor threatened by job to the point that I felt that I couldn't go that often. He said the bosses had told him that, later they confirmed that they had not. I am older and wiser now and realized I should have gone straight to them. But many many employees are oppressed this way, and besides if I had gone to them my supervisor would have claimed I was lying and they would have believed Him, not me.
That happened in Illinois and, of course, it was an Amazon employee. I’m in Kentucky and one of the Amazon plants located in a more rural part of the state threatened to fire people that wanted to leave during the same tornado storm system the Illinois Amazon driver was arguing about. The Kentucky Amazon plant that wouldn’t let the workers leave was hit by a tornado and employees died
@@vvoof2601 I completely agree! I’d tell my supervisor that I all of a sudden got explosive diarrhea and have to go home. Totally unrelated to the tornado barreling down the street….
@@BigRedShadevil It is Amazon, they would still fire you. They would rather you shit yourself and keep working than potentially lose 1 cent in productivity. Americans need to understand that for most corporations in the US they don't look at workers as people, they look at them as slaves they have to pay just enough to keep the government off their backs.
I got fired for letting my Driver's license Expire accidentally. I had just spent 3 weeks rewriting 4 years of time sheets to emphasize in office work instead of on the road which was costing them almost triple in worker worker health and safety fees. The owner called me about a week after firing for me to pay a parking ticket. I told him I wouldn't be paying the ticket and that I was expecting a $30000 deposit into my account as severance or I would be taking my old timesheetsto the worker health & safety board. The next week had $30000 + backpay in my account and I never heard from them again.
A co-worker of mine was a top trades-person. The company was facing a scale-down that they knew was coming and people were being laid off at regular intervals. If anyone stayed to their designated 'end date' they were offered their severance, which was a good deal. However, if at any time before that date, they were fired or quit they lost everything. The person in question, discovered that his mother was dying of cancer and she lived a few 1000 km away. She was not going to see 3 months more and he asked for a leave of absense to say goodbye. It was denied, presumably because his role in the company was 'too important and they couldn't afford to just let him leave before his end date". He quit so that he could say goodbye to his mother and the company didn't have to pay out a 16-year severance package for a senior tradesman. In a facility that was "all-but" closing down in the next year, does anyone else think that was a little fishy?
Sounds like dispatch didn't understand the difference between a tornado warning and a tornado watch. Best way I've ever heard it described and I use it when educating people often : Tornado watch : We have beef, shells, lettuce, cheese, and all the other ingredients to make tacos. Tornado warning : WE ARE HAVING TACOS! RIGHT NOW! TACOS ARE BEING SERVED RIGHT THIS INSTANT!
Sounds like the dispatch never lived anywhere where they have tornado sirens and doesn't understand what those mean. No excuse, though. Also, to add to your tornado thing...Tornado Emergency: *someone shoving tacos down your throat*
I recall a week-long employee training session where the instructor would lecture for hours non-stop. Anytime someone had to go to the bathroom the trainer would stop the training and pointedly ask, "Do you have to go to the bathroom? Do you have to do it right now? I'm in the middle of something important! Can't it wait?" About 30 of us in training, one bathroom, and we could only use it without harassment during our 30 minute lunch break.
The last one was Amazon. This was the same tornado that hit their warehouse in Illinois, killing six people. Employees were told they could not leave to seek sturdier shelter an hour before the storm, which was already known to be deadly, hit them. They’re facing lawsuits for it
So many lawsuits just waiting to be won! Wow! I worked at a call center and we had to call someone to get bathroom approval. They even timed us. 5 mins. Didn’t matter that it took 2 minutes to get to them. If you were back late you got docked for every minute. One day I was really sick. I should not have come in but I was threatened with loosing my job if I didn’t. I’m on a call, trying to not throw up, and the woman can hear me gagging. Nice right? She said she would call back so I could run to the bathroom. I was denied. I was denied 4 times and got in trouble because the woman called back to talk to someone else. I told my manager that I was going to throw up at my desk and was told that was fine as long as I kept answering the phone. Finally it happened. I went to get up and run to the bathroom and I puked all over the floor. Right between 4 different sets of cubicles. I got yelled at for not going to the bathroom! Then other people started to throw up. Sympathetic puckers. It was as so so bad. The smell. In the end I was told I’d be “held accountable” for my actions and put on warning. I walked out and never came back. Then I wrote a letter to corporate with everything that happened and got the manager fired. Sweet karma
Tbh I doubt it would even rise to that level if it's in the US. Most states don't require paid time off. Depending on the size of the company you may not even qualify for unpaid time via FMLA.
Liver donor stuff? "Not in my contract as a work resonsibility. Get stuffed. Besides I need my entire liver to handle the copious amounts of alcohol I consume to tolerate this job."
I think it is fair to ask employees if they would get tested. But it should be with a carrot, not a stick, maybe "if you get tested, you will get extra free day or you can join evening party on Friday, paid by owner" and "if you donate it in the end, you will get extra week off and one month salary as extra bonus" or something like that.
@@simonspacek3670 - Organ donation in the U.S. & Canada cannot be for compensation. So extra time off at work or salary bonus is compenstation and if the medical team finds out about it they could cancel the surgery as a result. It has to be free from any pressure or guilt.
@@simonspacek3670 No, just no. In which world undergoing surgery and giving a part of my liver equals one week off? It's not ethical to ask for testing or offer that kind of incentive in the first place.
I heard a similar story about toilet breaks in one company I used to do contract maintenance for. One employee started using a waste paper bin by his desk when breaks were refused. The boss went crazy. Next thing 3 more employees got up and did the same in front of him. According to the story, one even threatened to defecate into the bin. HR got involved and the company policy was found 'not' to be company policy. I would stress that I was not able to verify the story but had no reason to disbelieve it.
Workers in meat processing plants often wear adult diapers because they are not given adequate restroom breaks. Disgusting. I once had a boss that timed people's restroom visits. Woe unto you if you needed longer than 5 minutes.
I was pulled from work by my sister after my mum lapsed into a coma being driven from a hospital to a hospice on a friday afternoon. She died that evening. I was back at work on monday and called to my managers office who explicitly forbade me from tellling any collegues that my mother had died. He ''was worried about the effect that might have on the mood of the team'' I worked in. I told him I did'nt care about his opinion, because the worst thing that could happen had already happend on friday. That was the last conversation we had before he was kicked off my team. A few years later he appeared at the office on other business and had the gall to ask if I was glad to see him. His expression when I looked him in the face and said ''no'' was priceless
If you see a poster about not discussing pay in your workplace, look up the laws around this (i believe its illegal in many countries/states to say your employees arent allowed to discuss pay), print them off, and staple it to the bottom of the poster.
A friend of mine once had to accept a less-than-ideal job due to an unfortunate set of circumstances. On his first day, his boss said that he wasn't to discuss his level of pay with anyone. He replied, "Don't worry - I'm just as ashamed of it as you are."
That's a funny retort, but, no employee should ever feel shamed for what these sick, miserly, greedy companies offer as compensation. It feels as though hardly anybody anymore is paid what they're worth. I have a Gen Z kid about to embark on adult life, and I've no idea what to advise anymore, as things have gotten so much worse insofar as working conditions, pay, and greedy corporations. Thankfully, these kids are not as willing as my generation to just humbly accept the crumbs, abuse, and downright illegal practices we were exposed to, starting out and sometimes continuing on. These kids are savvy, and understand how to work smarter. I'd love a whole office full of Gen Z'ers.
OTR(over the road) drivers get caught in tornadoes, hail, lightning, snow and whatever the weather throws at them. Personally (yes I was an OTR driver in the U.S.) if I felt it was unsafe for me to drive, my semi got parked! I had NO problem telling my dispatcher “If this load is worth more than a life, then get YOUR life out here and do it!” Surprise I NEVER got fired, nor did I get a write up.
The driver in the video worked for Amazon. They don’t value worker safety or life. Six people died in their warehouse in the same tornado. They were told they couldn’t leave when it was still safe to do so, and the warehouse didn’t have adequate shelter.
Chemo and radio therapy depletes the body. My husband came back every time a very pale Grey. I do not understand not allowing medical leave. Forcing people to test is illegal.
I’ll bet the driver in the tornado was working for Amazon in Illinois USA (just a few miles from where I live). I don’t know about that driver but the tornado did hit the warehouse and killed six workers… who were told to keep working. 😡
I had a manager who insisted, as they always do, to never discuss your pay. Shortly after one of those discussions she left her payslip in the photocopier for 2 days, that we all used frequently. We all saw it and then discussed her salary freely.😅
Man that tornado one hits me hard. Back in 2010, I was visiting my parents in Northern Alberta for four days. On the final day, I was set to catch the next Greyhound back to Calgary. While we were driving to the station a very large funnel cloud started forming right above our SUV and we had to take shelter in a local diner and wait for it to pass. All buses were canceled as they had to stay docked until the tornado had passed. It was all over the news and I even texted a photo of the funnel cloud that was right above us. Greyhound didn't get the all-clear for another 24 hours. My work was so mad I wasn't there the next day even though I had zero power to do anything about it. I mean, if I had the power to change the weather I'd be a fricken God and wouldn't have to do b***h work for minimum wage and I'd be casting my bosses out or smiting them or something just for being total asshats.
Well if I'm fired because I feel unsafe in a tornado warning, how do you think the courts **and** the department of labor would view 'for my safety' when I inform them of the unjustified firing?
They'd probably laugh it off. Less than a decade ago we had -40 BEFORE windchill for days and a travel ban. Walmart still pointed us for not showing up.
@@Transformers2Fan1The tornado case was Amazon. The tornado hit their factory, where they wouldn’t let people leave early to seek better shelter before the storm got there. Six people died and any more were injured. There are a whole lotta lawsuits from that one. I hope they get huge payouts so big corporations learn that endangering workers in a natural disaster costs more than they make
I had a teacher tell me that I couldnt go to the bathroom in high school. We went back and forth till I finally snapped; "Look lady, your options are I shit on this desk or you let me go use the bathroom. Which will it be?" I got to go to the bathroom and got suspended for 3 days for "Insubordination" x"D Id gotten in trouble legitimately plenty of times but nobody deserves to essentially be told 'pi** yourself.' (PS: What would happen if you pressed that button 120 times a minute? How frantic can you make it seem? The resume that gets accepted is the one which stands out. :))
Spammed the "need supervisor immediately" button at Walmart because underage adult trying to buy alcohol for his MINOR girlfriend. She showed up 5+ minutes after the dude stormed off (I had to walk to every other register to point him out and tell them not to sell) all casual "sup? You wanted something?" You really should have urinated in the corner... Or under your desk. XD
The cancer story...the company essentially murdered her. Chemotherapy is grueling and if she's having complications, she needs time to recover. They killed that woman and I will die on that rock. Signed ,a physician
That one about not discussing pay is TRUE. Basically the same company I worked for that I was fired for fifteen minutes for basically not taking their BS, had that posed up for us to read. And the tornado one? That same company wanted us (me and this one girl) to do our lanes (drive thru outside with tablets) in a freaken severe thunderstorm. I took one look and knew it had hail in it and as the winds picked up I told her to get inside and if they gave her hell I would just take it myself. Well they did. They asked why we weren’t outside and I told them off and I told them I refused for me or anyone in our shirt to go out there. Well this one customers order was ready and I had to run OUTSIDE in 60 miles per hour wind, rain and lightning to deliver a freaken burger. Let me tell you I would have called HR but the thing is even they were corrupted as hell.
@@Nebulak187 At least they wait until you're dead and don't need them anymore. This employer wasn't even waiting for death, wanted to take them without consent too by the sound of it.
The chemo one, I can only guess she'd used up all sick leave and recreational leave and as the sole bread winner, couldn't afford unpaid time off But *SURELY* there must have been a solution, clearly there was with staff volunteering their own time. I hope the family sued but I have a feeling they didn't And that transplant story, surely that's illegal
I doubt they could find the money after the medical costs and funeral costs and then losing an income earner. Most lawyers would do it on the basis their fee will be in the settlement but that's if they even asked about it. Most people in the US are barely aware of their rights as a worker so they probably didn't do much.
I feel like her family probably could have got off their asses and done a lot more to help bring in financial support while she's literally dying of cancer.
The tornado story actually happened in the town where I was teaching. That delivery driver turned back and went to shelter in place at the warehouse. The tornado RIPPED THROUGH THE WAREHOUSE and people were unalived. I had to drive past that warehouse on my way to and from work. And for WEEKS, it looked like a giant monster had ravaged the area, scooped up the warehouse contents and all, and threw it all over the highway/area. There were search and rescue crews there for days, and some were rescued. But ultimately, it became a search and recover for some of the bodies. And i believe that driver was fired. The entire town and County went ballistic, people were protesting. the way it was handled by managers AND corporate was shameful.
The people were KILLED, not unalienable (that is what my predictive text puts in immediately when I typed in "unalived". Please use the correct word. It is possibly upsetting, but is reality.
@@carlivansoelen1638 I would say "people died". "People were killed" sounds to me like intentional thing, like murder. I'm not native speaker, so I can be wrong, it is just how it sounds to me.
Some social media sites will delete responses using certain words. That warehouse was Am*z*n if I’m not mistaken. That news filtered down to us on another continent.
In my entire working life, I never worked for a bad, uncaring, and unfeeling managers like these. Some were more effective than others, but all were okay. I saw one bad manager, though. One of my coworkers had a supervisor who had a bug against her. My coworker was extremely diligent and highly competent and organized, but her supe constantly persecuted her. It was so bad that I went to my boss and complained about it. I don't know if it was my complaint that did it, but not long thereafter the supervisor was given a different position that had no direct reports. They couldn't just fire her because this was government and civil service rules made it virtually impossible. So they put her in a place where the damage she could do was limited.
The tornado one is Amazon. The driver survived to forward her messages to the media, but six people died when the tornado hit the warehouse, where they’d been told they couldn’t leave when there was still time to do so, and the building did not have adequate shelter. The giant, exterior walls fell right in on them.
In an employee assessment, I got in “ trouble” for taking a bathroom breaks during my 8 hour shifts, then when I asked the HR women okay, if I get in trouble for going to the bathroom, will the manager and her friend (my co-worker) get in trouble for their smoke breaks and bathroom breaks, which they would both take together, leaving me alone to do sales and reception? Also that was against company policy, only one person can leave at a time. She changed the subject pretty quickly.
The Chemo one reminds me of my own experience. First off, my boss and company were great. They weren't the issue. I was on a work term, they gave me a bonus and marked me down as completed work term. The assholes were the unemployment. Because I had finished work 3 weeks early and hadn't worked another job for 2 years (While I was in college I was being paid to go to college, but this wasn't counted as "working"), but I was forced to take Chemo due to a re-emerging Cancer in my lower back, they denied me my unemployment. So I got a bonus from my job, but my unemployment screwed me out of several months worth of medical EI leave. I have a decent job now, but I will never rely on unemployment again, and I will make sure that if I ever have kids that they never have to deal with them either. I have to send in 4 separate notices with doctors notes saying I physically could not work, and they still denied me it.
I've had that "Don't discuss your pay". It was because I was getting 40% more than new starters. College lecturing job. Start pay was £24k. I was a Doctor of engineering and senior nuclear physicist. Just fancied teaching next generation for a year. They paid me £33k. But I used to get £180k in industry. They got a bargain.
I feel like thats a difftent thing though, idk about everywhere but if i have 20 years experience then a new starter shouldn't be getting what im getting cos i worked my way up. I think it's because ppl of same experience and same position getting paid differently when it should be the same rate per hour etc
Most of these are actually illegal and you could sue the company. Though I think not giving medical leave and and firing someone for not driving into a tornado is legal.
When I worked for Compusa's flagship store in Paramus NJ (in the early to mid 90's), we had a hurricane coming. I forget it's name, but I had work the day it was supposed to arrive. I went to work thinking they would send us home before it really hit. NOPE.. They kept the store open even though we were only getting maybe 2 customers an hour. That number of customers rapidly dropped to 0 as the storm intensified. I was only allowed to leave when my shift was over, which was right about when the storm was at it's worst. If I wasn't driving a jeep at the time, every road home would have been impassable for me. I was miles from home (North Bergen NJ at the time). Power lines were down all over, trees were down, and there was water on the roads in some places 3 plus feet deep. The wind (jeeps are aerodynamic bricks) felt like it was going to tip the jeep.... I was lucky to make it home. It did make me make a rule about being an employee. NO COMPANY pays you enough to be forced into a dangerous situation... If there is a hurricane or ice storm coming, I shelter in place. If the local government is saying for non essential workers to stay home... I stay home..
The chemo one, yes the company were shit for dragging their heels and not making allowance for her treatment. But (unless they're in the US) you can't criticise their refusal of the plan to donate days of paid leave to her. In most countries, the US being the notable exception, paid time off is a legal entitlement for every employee and isn't transferrable between people. It's not a matter in which the company has any discretion.
This screams, "I know this is wrong but you can't blame them that's just how it is" even though it's in their power to do something about it regardless. That makes the company more egregious.
Of love how #3 is phrased like it is some binding legal document when the thing they are stating is illegal full stop. Even if this was a clause in a contract it cannot enforce an illegal action. I would literally get a copy of that (for my records) and send it to a lawyer straight away.
Oh hell ! I worked for Sainsbury's in UK... there was a couple of ladies who had cancer....they sacked them for having too much sick time off for chemotherapy and radiotherapy.... they both died. Absolutely the baddest word ever doesn't even sum that up. I'm working but have emails about other jobs....big red flag if that's for the same companies year after year.... there is quite a few.
Now I understand why a few years ago sainsburys were so keen to get taken over by asda which is owned by Walmart. I will stop using sainsburys now as that kind of attitude towards its workforce is truly beyond the pale
The story about the transplant the people that got fired could surly take legal action against the boss & company trying to force people to donate organs has to be highly illegal .Actully the lady who passed from cancer her family surly have a case aswell refusing sick leave to a cancer patient if that story went public it would destroy that company fingers crossed them companys get outed for such shamefull behaviour .
i think i would have replied to that tornado one with something along the lines of "i feel not returning at this time will be risking my life if the company insists i stay out in this weather i am afraid the company would be responsible for my death or injury"
I had a job in a call centre type environment where I had to raise my hand to go to the toilet. Needless to say I didn't do it. I got told to log on 30mins unpaid to be ready for the start of the day as the computers were so slow. If I was stuck on a call I would not get the time back or paid for. I was told it was my own fault if I got a call 1 minute before the end of my shift and must complete it. (Was not allowed to call avoid so it happened) Told to jump onto calls 30mins as it was busy unpaid. If the system went down which was often to log our paper logged calls in our breaks and lunch breaks. All the while we were told be thankful you have a job in 2008. They had the cheek of you were 1 minute late off your lunch to write you up for it. That job told me so much at a very young age. Needless to say I've not put up with places like this ever again.
I worked at a call center for AT&T where the after call work time was 15 seconds and it forced you back into the next call. However they expected less than 5 seconds consistently. There was also no time between calls. Back to back all day every day. You could override going back into available yourself but they literally had people who had a tablet showing who went over 20 seconds to come over to your desk and ask what’s taking so long as you were fully expected to wrap up your case and note before each call ended 100% of the time. They also expected that 100% of all calls be over in less than 10 minutes. So if you had a longer call due to something complex they would come over every couple minutes and tell you to wrap it up as you’re taking too long. Not only that but they had no support if you could not figure something out and said “everything you need is in the guides” when it wasn’t. I remember asking one of the mangers to find me the article page paragraph sentence after a literal 90 minute call. They flat out refused to look and said it wasn’t their job to help me. They were a manager mind you. They ran the place like a sweatshop. And the only reason we were so busy is that we had 300 people but they contracted our center to handle the volume of 1,000 people. They did it strange where each call center was allocated an amount from a pool of sorts. People would wait for hours on hold and the closers who were supposed to get off at 9 didn’t until past 10 sometimes 11pm. The place would lose 2 people on average a day. They would train a class of 26 and only 8 would end up making to to the floor. And the most evil part: they used a temporary hiring company so almost everyone there was considered a temp so no health benefits or PTO period.
@@fatefingerSounds like WestCorp. From 'hire to I QUIT.' I lasted 3 months, before going back to the hospital after-hours call line, 90 minutes away from home.
"The sirens are just a warning...." yes. THAT THERE IS A FUCKING EMERGENCY IN PROGESS AT THEIR LOCATION! Can you imagine this exchange in WW2 with air raid siren going off?
Toilet break button. I worked in a call centre as my first job. We never had any of that. We just had daily preferred targets on call answers in a shift. As for the cancer patient, that company should be sued for ignoring their duty of care.
Honestly i think someone deserves to be in prison for it, call it manslaughter or something but they wilfully interfered with someone's medical care knowing full well the extent of the issue and continued to do what they did. Companies are big and all but there is definitely someone responsible.
The chemo story: She probably blew through her sick leave. She might have been able to go on disability but that only pays about 60% as I understand it. I suspect the reason they didn’t allow other employees to donate their time is the company depends on most employees not taking all or any of their time. The unequal pay story: In the US companies can no longer tell employees they can’t share how much they’re paid.
It was 1992, the LA riots. The police were telling people to stay home. My boss was insisting I ignore tye warnings and come to work. I did not work in an ER or anything close to it. I worked for a catalogue company taking phone orders. I stayed home and they did not fire me. I wish they had because in 1994 when my building was red tagged due to an earthquake and the office building had been severely damaged by boss expected me to just work around the exposed electrical wires I quit.
For the organ donation one, not only is that a lawsuit waiting to happen. But I'm pretty sure if you inform the doctor performing the test that you do not want to donate and only doing to maintain your employment, they won't use you or anyone from your firm even if you were a match. Because of ethics.
Not only that but they will be calling the authorities as forcing an employee to under go a medical procedure for personal reasons on the owners part to keep their job is for sure illegal. Especially since it relates to organ donation. He is basically using extortion to get an organ from someone. It is not reasonable to think if you were a match and said no, you'd keep your job. So what he is doing is a very serious felony. If everyone told the docs that's what was going on, the owner is having a conversation about it with the feds for sure.
I work in a Research and Development job, but got a manager 8 years ago that treats everything like a last minute emergency. Complete chaos and nothing gets done anymore because he can't let people work without constantly interrupting them like he doesn't know what to do with himself. Right before I went on vacation, my father had a heart attack, so I was very busy dealing with real emergencies, and the chaotic manager couldn't make it two days into my planned vacation before he started texting, calling, emailing, and messaging me on every office software and personal number because his boss wanted to use a Photo Booth.
How could that company even survive that ? That is obviously illegal to require employees to get tested for a liver donation. You are just going to get tons of lawsuits and the remaining employees (those that couldn't take the free lawsuit money) will only be motivated to get out as quick as they possibly can....
In California, it is illegal for companies to require salary confidentiality. Talking about salaries usually leads to higher salaries across the board.
Discussions about pay in the UK are protected under S77 of the Equality Act 2010, where those discussions are seeking to determine whether differences in pay are regarding a Protected Characteristic (gender, etc.). Restrictions on such discussions are unenforceable. In practice, it's almost impossible to defend a prohibition on discussing pay.
If I'm not mistaken, in the US, it's against federal law to tell employees they can't discuss their wages. I actually looked up federal labor laws several years ago and that one caught my eye, as I've been told that by companies over the years.
There is a well known delivery company called DPD. If you want to take time off, you need to find someone willing to cover your route or the company charges you, same if you woke up too unwell. I was told how someone couldn't get anyone to cover his route, he died as he couldn't go to the doctors. Disgusted when I heard that and was so glad I never worked at that place.
Oh yeah, call centers are literally subhuman jobs. The time I worked in one, I was given a warning for going to the bathroom outside break time. I was shocked when I found out I had to ask for permission like a little kid. I will never forget that.
Im a driver manager for an international logistics company. We have a policy. If the driver feels a situation, call it up and find a safe haven. Rain, snow, tornado. 9 times out of ten if i see weather is getting bad where they are delivering, its called before they even head out. But to be fair, ive seen some situations where im like, don't driver, and the driver goes out and handles it, no problem.
Here is a quick one for you. Love your channel, by the way. A friend was fired; she was an accountant. So on her last day, she paid off every vendor in full. This included the credit card companies and the mortgage. This left very little money in the bank. She was also ordered to cancel all credit cards due to some employee abuse. She told us she made sure to cancel the corporate cards her boss used, even though obviously her boss did not mean to cancel his cards.
"Does he need a volcano?" I think it would have to be a tornado that was whipping over an erupting volcano, causing liquid magma to fly through the air 😖
Starts at "denied bathroom breaks," goes through "denies cancer patient medical leave," and on to "force employee to commit suicide." That's just a bit of an escalation, isn't it.
The thing about the Liver testing is go ahead and "go to the test". All you have to do is tell the person who is going to perform it that you were forced to get tested. They will simply record that you are not an acceptable donor.
Re the breast cancer one i have a similar story. I bloke working where I worked was having chemo. Everything went well but his doctor wouldn't sign him off fit for work so work insisted he see the works doctor. Works doctor said he was fit for light duties. So work gave him the options of come in or get fired. He went in on the Monday and died on the Wednesday. Worse part was he had two brother's working in the same place directly under the manager who forced him to work
I don't know if it is a cultural thing or I am just lucky, but I have heard from bosses over here in Germany asking people to come in when they have a cold or something, nothing even remotely on the scale like this. I might be extremely lucky but my bosses always trusted my own assessment if it was better to stay home for a day or two... Ever heard of "work to live, don't live to work", bosses?
Companys should be named and shamed to be honest. That chemo ones absolutely disgusting
That one should be named imo.
It's pretty much standard in the US. Although many companies do allow to "share" PTO.
Yeah fucking murderers
The tornado one was Nashville/Gallatin tornado. Amazon delivery contractors are awful. They need to unionize.
@@l4nc3r Every time they even try the company just union busts, supposedly anti-union activity isn't allowed n the US and yet i see employers taking incredibly strong actions to prevent it. When it came out how incredibly toxic activison-blizzard was with a slew of sexual misconduct allegations and even a sexual assault allegation the company didn't try and do the right thing it just hired a bunch of lawyers who were practiced in anti-union activity... and also defending swiss banks that had taken nazi gold stolen from holocaust victims.
When I worked for AT&T, they fired a manager because she had to have time off because she was sick. She was hospitalized with a very rare complication of influenza. Basically, the flu virus started attacking her bone marrow, which is life threatening. It went to federal court which found AT&T was at fault and had to pay her back salary, bonuses, and give her back her job. They appealed the ruling. The appeals court upheld the lower court ruling. They tried to go to SCOTUS, but they wouldn't hear it. So she got her job back, back pay, back bonuses, and no loss of seniority. The management at AT&T was pissed, but what could they do? They still tried to screw her and harasser her, but the court intervened and threatened her bosses with time in a federal prison if they didn't comply with the order and leave her alone. Years later she retired from the company with full pension and benefits.
Honestly, if I had management like that and the full weight of the legal system was keeping an eye on this whole situation, I would actually stay at the job out of spite, and then also forward any instance of reprisal or discrimination from the company to the ministry of labour.
@@Sl4wt3r I take it that you're from the UK then? Different laws on the other side of the pond. We here in the US don't have nearly the amount of protections for workers that you guys have over there. That's why we have unions and collective bargaining agreements.
@38Maelstorm Not the UK, but our laws are very similar (not going to go further into it since net privacy is pretty important to me). Where I'm from, we have very robust Employment laws and it is fully illegal to act against an employee who has not done anything clearly illegal, and it is categorized as wrongful termination to dismiss an employee who has not done anything clearly against the best interest of the employing organization. Reporting clear bad actors is considered a beneficial act in the strictest sense as long as you otherwise aren't sabotaging the company. Of course this is an ideal scenario that doesn't assume corruption.
@@Sl4wt3r Fair enough on the privacy. But it's interesting concept of what you have in your country.
That probably won't happen when the Convicted Felon DICKtator wannabe re-occupies the White House.
I worked in a call center years ago where a particularly objectionable supervisor tried to implement bathroom break requests (not company policy). I refused to participate and went as needed. When she confronted me, I politely invited her to organize a meeting with HR where we could discuss “her” policy. Funnily enough she abandoned her demands
I worked in a call center and the manager said we had to ask and wait to use the rest room. One day I asked to use it and she said no wait. I stood up and told her I was a 40 year old man and I decided when and if I was going to use it. Nothing was ever said to me relating to the bathroom again. I just told her I was going.
I worked at a call center like this, one of my coworkers brought it up to HR and the policy stopped.
Because it's against the law! Yes, the Federal government had to pass a law giving workers the right to use a toilet because companies were refusing to allow employees to not pee and poop in their pants.
In addition to being condescending and unnecessary, denying people bathroom breaks is unhealthy. Holding your urine can cause infections and incontinence, among other things.
I worked at a call center where they implemented the bathroom request rule. (Though it was instituted because certain call takers would choose the busiest times to go use the bathroom- and come back with crap from the vending machine, while forcing their coworkers to carry their weight. Just as evil. )
I ended it by going into explicit detail about why I needed the bathroom. It involved the words "uterine sloughage"... The jackhole male supervisor was mortified. 😂😂
My Partner had cancer and she worked for a US multinational in ireland. They paid her in full all the time she was out sick and and when she said she wanted to go back to work they said no with no intention of cutting her pay. After she instead the said ok but only under the condition that she stopped work as soon as she felt unwell/tired. They did everything they could to help her. Unfortunately after being in and out of hospital for 6 months the chemotherapy was finally too much for her and she passed away. My boss told me not to come to work as he believed me being by her side was the difference between life and death. I was also paid in full for the 6 months. All treatment was of course free. This is why I would never live in the U.S. because the texts you read out appear to be the norm there.
Sadly the messages he reads out are the norm over here. I am sorry you lost your partner but am glad to hear companies have a heart over there.
Sorry for your loss. That treatment is because you are in Ireland, so the company sticks to local labour laws to avoid any problems. If you were in the USA, thing would have been far more grim for you.
Unfortunately in the US we have to work for dicks and mostly not say anything.
I don't blame you. I have a great boss now, but a very different structure.
No even in the US these are extreme and horrifying.
The company killed that woman chemo patient. Chemo in many cases requires rest so the body can heal.
Yes, I've seen a couple people on chemo and it pretty much destroys the body. If you're lucky, the chemo will destroy the cancer before the body is so destroyed that you can't continue, but chemo is hard. It's hard to say what would have otherwise happened, but it's completely disgusting that not only did they not give her any time off, but they also wouldn't allow people to donate their paid time off to her.
Criminally charge those who made the decisions to deny her requests.
Chemo is evil. Most doctors with cancer won't do it, what does that tell you?
She is an idiot for continuing to work like that
The company did NOT kill the woman with chemo.
The family of the chemo patient has a lawsuit for wrongful death against that corporation.
Lawsuits on the liver donor testing requirement.
Lawsuits on the tornado warning.
For the liver testing one, I can understand a strong encouragement, offering free time off for people to get tested and reimbursing their medical expenses if they want to donate, but making people choose between donating their organs, which is a risky procedure, and their job, is not okay.
Forcing them to be tested for it as a requirement is over the top and that company should be sued out of existence.@@domvasta
Do you have links to these articles?
Definitely a lawsuit for reckless endangerment on the tornado warning.
So is the making someone sign about no talking about pay
Banning employees from discussing compensation is illegal in both UK and USA.
Forcing employees to take on ANY medical test is illegal in both UK and USA.
Something I repeatedly told my coworkers - it went all the way to SCOTUS, iirc - that we have every right to discuss our pay/raises even if it's "confidential".
Came here to say this, but you definitely said it way more eloquently than I would have 😺
Sure. Until covid.
And just because you signed an agreement saying you wouldn't doesn't trump legal rights. Illegal clauses occur in contracts all the time and it's possible the boss isn't even aware (I'm guessing by the misspelling of "acknowledge", that notice was drafted without consulting a lawyer or HR rep as most small businesses don't have those)
@@Transformers2Fan1 It is confidential information, but it is your confidential information, and you have the right to share it with anyone.
A few years ago, several people were killed in 2 instances of employers not allowing people to leave to seek shelter. One was an Amazon warehouse in St Louis, Mo, the other was a candle factory in Kentucky. In both cases, there was enough time that people could have gotten to stronger buildings to shelter in, but were told they would be fired if they left. Both buildings were flattened, and several workers died, many more were trapped and severely injured. I believe litigation in both instances is still ongoing ~
I heard about these two cases years ago. So ridiculous! I think that candles were more important that the lives of the employees? Wasn't there a story that a couple worked at the candle factory to make extra money for a home when the boyfriend was there and all of a sudden he was gone? I think inmates were also there on a work release program. Perhaps this is why the big bosses didn't care.
As for Amazon? Nothing surprises me.
Yes that was the tornado that came through Western Kentucky
Yup was awful 😢
It's impressive that unions were formed, because it was legal for companies to delete workers.
Like, you could just lock all the doors, and light the building ablaze. Totally legal. All was simply your property.
And... now we are at an era where the GOP are all "We NEED to bring that back! Too many of these cretins think they DESERVE to live?!""
I remember this. Try doing that in Europe and you’ll end up in prison. Try doing that in France and you’ll end up lynched.
Years ago worked with a woman who had breast cancer. Had surgery, had time off for that and doctors appts. Before that, was always at work, never called off, never late. Come raise time she was not given a raise because of her "attendence issue". When she wanted to know what "issue" they told her about the days missed for her medical procedures. When she disagreed, saying it was CANCER, she was told "Well, you weren't here working, were you." Yes. Companies really are that horrible and disgusting.
I worked with someone who had cancer. Like the woman in the first story they would do chemo on their days off. Eventually they had to go on sick leave and was told by the company that the cancer wasn't their problem.
Their sole tenet is maximise profits for the shareholders.
And socialise losses.
That Liver donor stuff... gives human resources a complette new meaning
Yes! Anyone who tested as a match would be expected to donate. Curious if their expectations and the firings are sue-able. You can't force people to undergo major surgery and donate organs. EVERYONE should have quit. Employees aren't property to do with as they will.
@@sandhermit3665 I believe the termination because you refuse to undergo screening to donate a body part is grounds for a wrongful termination suit.
@@ki5aok 💯 percent a case for wrongful dismissal.
Extremely illegal.
“You’re family, here… whether you like it or not!”
A late friend of mine was fired by her employer as soon as they found out she had cancer. So no insurance, a battle to get some government care - was pushed to the end of the care line continually until she died.
Who was the employer?
Have a great story about this myself but it is too long for this platform. End result? My speech made it crystal clear that unless things are handled properly, I will bring in someone to do so. Meaning a malpractice suit and the paper trail is ten years . . .
There is a lawsuit there.
My workmate found out he was being paid far less than the rest of the team, by several thousand pa for several years. To say we were shocked is an understatement. When we told him to raise this with our manager she was shocked as well. Got straight onto finance to sort it out. Turns out the contract he was on was correct at the time of him starting but had been overlooked in error as he progressed. It was sorted out in a couple of months with a massive pay jump to bring him in line with everyone else plus compensated with the back pay he had missed out on. He enjoyed his 2 week Spanish holiday that year.
A manager at my old workplace tried to give me a disciplinary for not coming into work on my day off, during a "red alert, danger to life weather warning" there was snow up to my knees, extremely high winds, low visibility and it was significant below 0.
I advised him it was my day off, and also due to the weather there was no public transport, and no cars on the roads. He then said that I was expected to walk in during that weather, I lived about 5-6 miles from the workplace at that point.
Department of Labor would NOT have agreed with your boss. Or, OSHA for that matter.
Some managers need to be fired.
@@bcase5328 Thing is he is a lovely guy, but the top brass above him were putting immense pressure on him.
So then we're bitching about the wrong person.@@alistaircraig7849
@@bcase5328 Some managers need to forge a closer relationship to pavement and boot.
I was a freelance contractor for 20 years.
Typical contract would be 3 to 6 months.
So you would do 2 or 3 contracts a year.
Different clients of course.
I turned up for an interview for a 3 month contract at a company.
One interviewer, the HR lady, told me they were concerned about the number of employers I had on my CV.
I thought "What??".
I said "I'm a contractor. That's how contracting works. Short term contracts.
Come on board, deliver a project and move on to the next one.
Like the project you're interviewing me for".
Some people are bewilderingly stupid.
You wonder how they get their positions.
I used to do contract security. That is almost exactly how my former company worked. How strange that that interviewer did not understand how that position worked...
@@spartanmerc1 Not really. You tend to find HR people have no idea how the business works.
They shouldn't he involved in the hiring process. They could never do the jobs themselves that they are looking to hire for.
The story about the employee on chemo was heartbreaking.
A mate of mine got a job on a car assembly line. After he put in two day's work, he had to go to the toilet and it took his supervisor so long to find someone to take his place, he left the line and went anyway. This shut the whole assembly line down until he got back and that caused a huge argument between him and the supervisor. My mate, still wearing the company issued overalls, walked off the job without giving any notice, technically forfeiting the pay for the two days he had worked there.
For years after this, at the end of each financial year, the car company would send him a bill for the cost of the overalls, which he would post back to them with a bill for the two day's pay they owed him! It gave us all a laugh for years!
On the bill for unpaid wages, could have noted 'Are you guys taking the piss?'
The chemo one just pisses me off I work for a company where we have a doctor in another state that is dealing with medical issues and we all came together and collectively donated 33 days of PTO for him to use and the company matched it so now he has over two months to just focus on himself and be with his family. That’s how it should be.
I am actually surprised that work place violence against toxic bosses and owners is not a whole lot higher. I would not condone it, but I would understand it.
Or, as Dilbert once said, "Look out! He's becoming disgruntled!"
A lot of these stories come from the UK and Europe. They don’t kill each other as much as Americans do.
I would condone it.
My auntie had cancer breat stage 4 and she was a nanny gor a wealthy company, the cro ketts. They paid her rent and her 10,000 dollars of chemotherapy plus all her surgeries. She still dies but this was not a corporate place just a good family caring for my auntie. Rip Carmen
Liver donor: I have some expertise on this subject. You go to be tested, tell them you are being forced, and they will categorise you as 'not a match'. I would also request the time off be provided by the employer as well as the mileage or public transport costs. Tell them anything to get this (I have no money to spare, I have no money for gas, my car is being repaired, my SO is using the car on that day).
Everyone in the medical field are all mandatory reporters too. So for SURE someone from the labor department is showing up after multiple employees report stories of forced organ donation testing. That could even end up being a criminal matter. I'm pretty sure extortion for organs is very illegal and that is what the owner basically did. "Get tested and give me your organ or you're fired" is a pretty clear cut case blackmail.
I loved the idea that the delivery guy stays out and finishes the deliveries only for the tornado to act as a porch pirate and nick every parcel.
The guy died. Fucking Amazon, of course.
We had a cyclone coming over when I lived in Darwin Australia. I worked for a major grocery store at the time. Emergency Services were calling for all businesses to be closed and everyone to take shelter. The decision from corporate, on the other side of the country in Adelaide, was to keep the store open, and they'd let us know when to close. They also tried to tell us that once we closed they wanted us to lift anything at risk of water damage to higher shelves, after we'd closed before we left.
We (the employees on the ground, actually at risk from the cyclone) closed and left a soon as Emergency services came and told us too.
Sorry, my minimum wage is not with my life.
Surely just in the legal sense, the advice (if not orders) from Emergency Services trumps anything your braindead corporate hacks on the other side of Australia want? I mean, if anyone got injured or worse, they’d have their arses sued for everything.
I really, really hope you didn't get punished afterwards?
@DougPaulley Nah. They would have been opening themselves to a law suit. The orders that they gave were well and truly against the safety of their workers, and while they claimed ignorance in the first part of it, sore management contacted work health safety Australia to call corporate on our behalf. I can only imagine the conversations that were had between them.
In the US, it is illegal to tell your employees that they can't discuss pay with anyone, anywhere, at any time, and the business can get in a lot of trouble for it.
I worked for a fairly large state governmental agency, and the HR director told me to my face it was a fireable offense to discuss pay with anyone.
@@isaiahlrice I didn't say people aren't stupid and have bad information, or are hoping you don't know your rights, I'm just saying they legally cannot tell you that. It would be hard to prove it without evidence, obviously, if you tried to report it, but knowing your rights, and letting someone else know that you know, gives you a lot more power and control over your own situations.
Exactly. That email was crazy. The entire staff should have gotten together and chipped in for a lawyer to send a cease and desist to the business on their behalf explaining to the employer they were violating the law and further legal action would be taken if necessary. This only happens because people don't stand up for their rights and cower instead.
@@isaiahlrice: The HR director needed a grievance filed against them, as no sane government manager would risk that large of a union complaint against them.
@@GeorgieB1965 I was not a union employee, I was “management”.
So the guy demanding his employees get tested? I’d go to get tested… and I’d tell everyone at the hospital that he was coercing people into giving up their organs, basically paying for a liver donor (which is completely illegal).
It would end with every single employee being unallowed to donate, even if they had actually wanted to. Some hospitals would refuse to allow for a living donor at all at that point, to play it safe as paying for organs can affect the hospitals status as a transplant facility.
I'm picturing all of them showing up like they're on a school field trip.
'what do we say?'
*together* 'we love donating our organs'
As far as I'm aware, you have to be dead to donate your liver?
I think they've tried liver lobe transplants, but that's not good for donor or receiver.
I'll bet $100 they wouldn't even have paid the donor. What jackasses.
@@sarumano884actually from everything I have heard liver lobe donors workout fine as do the recipients.
@@Sed_Contra may not be legal, but that sure as heck doesn't stop them from doing it. When I was pregnant with my son it was a high risk pregnancy. The doctor wanted to see me on a weekly basis to monitor my progress. My supervisor threatened by job to the point that I felt that I couldn't go that often. He said the bosses had told him that, later they confirmed that they had not. I am older and wiser now and realized I should have gone straight to them. But many many employees are oppressed this way, and besides if I had gone to them my supervisor would have claimed I was lying and they would have believed Him, not me.
With that tornado story the driver should have said, I need you to come here and tell me that in person......then see where it goes.
That happened in Illinois and, of course, it was an Amazon employee. I’m in Kentucky and one of the Amazon plants located in a more rural part of the state threatened to fire people that wanted to leave during the same tornado storm system the Illinois Amazon driver was arguing about. The Kentucky Amazon plant that wouldn’t let the workers leave was hit by a tornado and employees died
@@BigRedShadevilScrew that, no job is worth my life. I'm leaving even if you tell me not to.
@@vvoof2601
I completely agree! I’d tell my supervisor that I all of a sudden got explosive diarrhea and have to go home. Totally unrelated to the tornado barreling down the street….
@@BigRedShadevil It is Amazon, they would still fire you. They would rather you shit yourself and keep working than potentially lose 1 cent in productivity. Americans need to understand that for most corporations in the US they don't look at workers as people, they look at them as slaves they have to pay just enough to keep the government off their backs.
Amazon did that one! We all remember it 😢
I got fired for letting my Driver's license Expire accidentally. I had just spent 3 weeks rewriting 4 years of time sheets to emphasize in office work instead of on the road which was costing them almost triple in worker worker health and safety fees.
The owner called me about a week after firing for me to pay a parking ticket. I told him I wouldn't be paying the ticket and that I was expecting a $30000 deposit into my account as severance or I would be taking my old timesheetsto the worker health & safety board. The next week had $30000 + backpay in my account and I never heard from them again.
Should have sent it to them anyway
A co-worker of mine was a top trades-person. The company was facing a scale-down that they knew was coming and people were being laid off at regular intervals. If anyone stayed to their designated 'end date' they were offered their severance, which was a good deal. However, if at any time before that date, they were fired or quit they lost everything. The person in question, discovered that his mother was dying of cancer and she lived a few 1000 km away. She was not going to see 3 months more and he asked for a leave of absense to say goodbye. It was denied, presumably because his role in the company was 'too important and they couldn't afford to just let him leave before his end date". He quit so that he could say goodbye to his mother and the company didn't have to pay out a 16-year severance package for a senior tradesman. In a facility that was "all-but" closing down in the next year, does anyone else think that was a little fishy?
Sounds like dispatch didn't understand the difference between a tornado warning and a tornado watch. Best way I've ever heard it described and I use it when educating people often :
Tornado watch : We have beef, shells, lettuce, cheese, and all the other ingredients to make tacos.
Tornado warning : WE ARE HAVING TACOS! RIGHT NOW! TACOS ARE BEING SERVED RIGHT THIS INSTANT!
Hmm... A Mexican food analogy for tornadoes... Pecos Hank fan, by any chance? 😁
Exactly what I was thinking
I have family in those areas. If the tornado sirens are going off, you take cover.
Sounds like the dispatch never lived anywhere where they have tornado sirens and doesn't understand what those mean. No excuse, though.
Also, to add to your tornado thing...Tornado Emergency: *someone shoving tacos down your throat*
@@wesltall1, no, probably from Texas. We use this analogy a lot. Of course, we have both tacos and tornadoes quite a lot in this state.
I recall a week-long employee training session where the instructor would lecture for hours non-stop. Anytime someone had to go to the bathroom the trainer would stop the training and pointedly ask, "Do you have to go to the bathroom? Do you have to do it right now? I'm in the middle of something important! Can't it wait?" About 30 of us in training, one bathroom, and we could only use it without harassment during our 30 minute lunch break.
These type of companies really should be publicly shared in order to protect others from them
The last one was Amazon. This was the same tornado that hit their warehouse in Illinois, killing six people. Employees were told they could not leave to seek sturdier shelter an hour before the storm, which was already known to be deadly, hit them. They’re facing lawsuits for it
I have ADHD and wanting the bathroom does not compute until I really really need to go. They would have had a puddle.
Ahhh that explains a lot about my bathroom habits
Hyper focus for the win! 😅
So many lawsuits just waiting to be won! Wow!
I worked at a call center and we had to call someone to get bathroom approval. They even timed us. 5 mins. Didn’t matter that it took 2 minutes to get to them. If you were back late you got docked for every minute. One day I was really sick. I should not have come in but I was threatened with loosing my job if I didn’t. I’m on a call, trying to not throw up, and the woman can hear me gagging. Nice right? She said she would call back so I could run to the bathroom. I was denied. I was denied 4 times and got in trouble because the woman called back to talk to someone else. I told my manager that I was going to throw up at my desk and was told that was fine as long as I kept answering the phone. Finally it happened. I went to get up and run to the bathroom and I puked all over the floor. Right between 4 different sets of cubicles. I got yelled at for not going to the bathroom! Then other people started to throw up. Sympathetic puckers. It was as so so bad. The smell. In the end I was told I’d be “held accountable” for my actions and put on warning. I walked out and never came back. Then I wrote a letter to corporate with everything that happened and got the manager fired. Sweet karma
Her company she worked for should be held accountable for her death.
not a legal expert here, but it sounds more like involentary manslaughter.
Tbh I doubt it would even rise to that level if it's in the US. Most states don't require paid time off. Depending on the size of the company you may not even qualify for unpaid time via FMLA.
They should be sued, just for getting the names of managers & company out there. Name & shame.
Liver donor stuff? "Not in my contract as a work resonsibility. Get stuffed. Besides I need my entire liver to handle the copious amounts of alcohol I consume to tolerate this job."
its simpler than that its conspiracy to illegally trade in organs as if a test came up a match there would definitely be duress involved to donate
I think it is fair to ask employees if they would get tested. But it should be with a carrot, not a stick, maybe "if you get tested, you will get extra free day or you can join evening party on Friday, paid by owner" and "if you donate it in the end, you will get extra week off and one month salary as extra bonus" or something like that.
@@simonspacek3670 - Organ donation in the U.S. & Canada cannot be for compensation. So extra time off at work or salary bonus is compenstation and if the medical team finds out about it they could cancel the surgery as a result. It has to be free from any pressure or guilt.
@@simonspacek3670 It is not fair to ask in any situation.
@@simonspacek3670 No, just no. In which world undergoing surgery and giving a part of my liver equals one week off? It's not ethical to ask for testing or offer that kind of incentive in the first place.
I heard a similar story about toilet breaks in one company I used to do contract maintenance for. One employee started using a waste paper bin by his desk when breaks were refused. The boss went crazy. Next thing 3 more employees got up and did the same in front of him. According to the story, one even threatened to defecate into the bin. HR got involved and the company policy was found 'not' to be company policy. I would stress that I was not able to verify the story but had no reason to disbelieve it.
Workers in meat processing plants often wear adult diapers because they are not given adequate restroom breaks. Disgusting. I once had a boss that timed people's restroom visits. Woe unto you if you needed longer than 5 minutes.
I was pulled from work by my sister after my mum lapsed into a coma being driven from a hospital to a hospice on a friday afternoon. She died that evening.
I was back at work on monday and called to my managers office who explicitly forbade me from tellling any collegues that my mother had died. He ''was worried about the effect that might have on the mood of the team'' I worked in.
I told him I did'nt care about his opinion, because the worst thing that could happen had already happend on friday. That was the last conversation we had before he was kicked off my team.
A few years later he appeared at the office on other business and had the gall to ask if I was glad to see him.
His expression when I looked him in the face and said ''no'' was priceless
If you see a poster about not discussing pay in your workplace, look up the laws around this (i believe its illegal in many countries/states to say your employees arent allowed to discuss pay), print them off, and staple it to the bottom of the poster.
A friend of mine once had to accept a less-than-ideal job due to an unfortunate set of circumstances.
On his first day, his boss said that he wasn't to discuss his level of pay with anyone.
He replied, "Don't worry - I'm just as ashamed of it as you are."
That's a funny retort, but, no employee should ever feel shamed for what these sick, miserly, greedy companies offer as compensation. It feels as though hardly anybody anymore is paid what they're worth. I have a Gen Z kid about to embark on adult life, and I've no idea what to advise anymore, as things have gotten so much worse insofar as working conditions, pay, and greedy corporations. Thankfully, these kids are not as willing as my generation to just humbly accept the crumbs, abuse, and downright illegal practices we were exposed to, starting out and sometimes continuing on.
These kids are savvy, and understand how to work smarter. I'd love a whole office full of Gen Z'ers.
OTR(over the road) drivers get caught in tornadoes, hail, lightning, snow and whatever the weather throws at them. Personally (yes I was an OTR driver in the U.S.) if I felt it was unsafe for me to drive, my semi got parked! I had NO problem telling my dispatcher “If this load is worth more than a life, then get YOUR life out here and do it!” Surprise I NEVER got fired, nor did I get a write up.
The driver in the video worked for Amazon. They don’t value worker safety or life. Six people died in their warehouse in the same tornado. They were told they couldn’t leave when it was still safe to do so, and the warehouse didn’t have adequate shelter.
Chemo and radio therapy depletes the body. My husband came back every time a very pale Grey. I do not understand not allowing medical leave. Forcing people to test is illegal.
Sad part of most of these stories is that people are willing to "Take it"... and just think of the number of untold stories out there!
I’ll bet the driver in the tornado was working for Amazon in Illinois USA (just a few miles from where I live). I don’t know about that driver but the tornado did hit the warehouse and killed six workers… who were told to keep working. 😡
She was. She never made it back to the warehouse, which was actually lucky for her, as you know.
I had a manager who insisted, as they always do, to never discuss your pay. Shortly after one of those discussions she left her payslip in the photocopier for 2 days, that we all used frequently. We all saw it and then discussed her salary freely.😅
Man that tornado one hits me hard. Back in 2010, I was visiting my parents in Northern Alberta for four days. On the final day, I was set to catch the next Greyhound back to Calgary. While we were driving to the station a very large funnel cloud started forming right above our SUV and we had to take shelter in a local diner and wait for it to pass. All buses were canceled as they had to stay docked until the tornado had passed. It was all over the news and I even texted a photo of the funnel cloud that was right above us. Greyhound didn't get the all-clear for another 24 hours.
My work was so mad I wasn't there the next day even though I had zero power to do anything about it. I mean, if I had the power to change the weather I'd be a fricken God and wouldn't have to do b***h work for minimum wage and I'd be casting my bosses out or smiting them or something just for being total asshats.
Well if I'm fired because I feel unsafe in a tornado warning, how do you think the courts **and** the department of labor would view 'for my safety' when I inform them of the unjustified firing?
They'd probably laugh it off. Less than a decade ago we had -40 BEFORE windchill for days and a travel ban.
Walmart still pointed us for not showing up.
@@Transformers2Fan1The tornado case was Amazon. The tornado hit their factory, where they wouldn’t let people leave early to seek better shelter before the storm got there. Six people died and any more were injured. There are a whole lotta lawsuits from that one. I hope they get huge payouts so big corporations learn that endangering workers in a natural disaster costs more than they make
I had a teacher tell me that I couldnt go to the bathroom in high school.
We went back and forth till I finally snapped; "Look lady, your options are I shit on this desk or you let me go use the bathroom. Which will it be?"
I got to go to the bathroom and got suspended for 3 days for "Insubordination" x"D
Id gotten in trouble legitimately plenty of times but nobody deserves to essentially be told 'pi** yourself.'
(PS: What would happen if you pressed that button 120 times a minute? How frantic can you make it seem? The resume that gets accepted is the one which stands out. :))
Just me that would continuously press the toilet break button until approved? 🤣
I'd pee in the waste basket.
Nah. I'd just piss in the corner. See if he denies anymore bathroom requests after that
All day long, after all if you're told you can't have something it'll make you want that thing more :)
Nah....I'm going. I'll buzz it as a courtesy... but that's just to let them know....hey going to the bathroom now. Be back soon.
Spammed the "need supervisor immediately" button at Walmart because underage adult trying to buy alcohol for his MINOR girlfriend. She showed up 5+ minutes after the dude stormed off (I had to walk to every other register to point him out and tell them not to sell) all casual "sup? You wanted something?"
You really should have urinated in the corner... Or under your desk. XD
some times i want you to tell the company, because nobody must know where not to work
The cancer story...the company essentially murdered her. Chemotherapy is grueling and if she's having complications, she needs time to recover. They killed that woman and I will die on that rock. Signed ,a physician
That one about not discussing pay is TRUE. Basically the same company I worked for that I was fired for fifteen minutes for basically not taking their BS, had that posed up for us to read. And the tornado one? That same company wanted us (me and this one girl) to do our lanes (drive thru outside with tablets) in a freaken severe thunderstorm. I took one look and knew it had hail in it and as the winds picked up I told her to get inside and if they gave her hell I would just take it myself. Well they did. They asked why we weren’t outside and I told them off and I told them I refused for me or anyone in our shirt to go out there. Well this one customers order was ready and I had to run OUTSIDE in 60 miles per hour wind, rain and lightning to deliver a freaken burger. Let me tell you I would have called HR but the thing is even they were corrupted as hell.
Mandatory organ donation? Wow. First time I've heard that one.
was this in a third world country or Korea or someplace
No just America where you can sign your human rights away on a piece of paper
In my country they can take your organs without your or your family's consent after your death.
Kinda messed up.
@@Nebulak187 At least they wait until you're dead and don't need them anymore. This employer wasn't even waiting for death, wanted to take them without consent too by the sound of it.
@@jonlee2217no, bodies and organs must be alive when harvested, so they invented the concept of “brain death”. Ghoulish ghouls.
The chemo one, I can only guess she'd used up all sick leave and recreational leave and as the sole bread winner, couldn't afford unpaid time off
But *SURELY* there must have been a solution, clearly there was with staff volunteering their own time.
I hope the family sued but I have a feeling they didn't
And that transplant story, surely that's illegal
I doubt they could find the money after the medical costs and funeral costs and then losing an income earner. Most lawyers would do it on the basis their fee will be in the settlement but that's if they even asked about it. Most people in the US are barely aware of their rights as a worker so they probably didn't do much.
I feel like her family probably could have got off their asses and done a lot more to help bring in financial support while she's literally dying of cancer.
"bathroom request button." Or, as I call it, automatic lawsuit button.
The tornado story actually happened in the town where I was teaching. That delivery driver turned back and went to shelter in place at the warehouse.
The tornado RIPPED THROUGH THE WAREHOUSE and people were unalived. I had to drive past that warehouse on my way to and from work. And for WEEKS, it looked like a giant monster had ravaged the area, scooped up the warehouse contents and all, and threw it all over the highway/area.
There were search and rescue crews there for days, and some were rescued. But ultimately, it became a search and recover for some of the bodies. And i believe that driver was fired. The entire town and County went ballistic, people were protesting. the way it was handled by managers AND corporate was shameful.
The people were KILLED, not unalienable (that is what my predictive text puts in immediately when I typed in "unalived". Please use the correct word. It is possibly upsetting, but is reality.
@@carlivansoelen1638 I would say "people died". "People were killed" sounds to me like intentional thing, like murder. I'm not native speaker, so I can be wrong, it is just how it sounds to me.
@@simonspacek3670 Both died and killed are perfectly fine. They were in fact killed, by the tornado.
Tiktok and its degradation/infantilization to language
Some social media sites will delete responses using certain words. That warehouse was Am*z*n if I’m not mistaken. That news filtered down to us on another continent.
In my entire working life, I never worked for a bad, uncaring, and unfeeling managers like these. Some were more effective than others, but all were okay. I saw one bad manager, though. One of my coworkers had a supervisor who had a bug against her. My coworker was extremely diligent and highly competent and organized, but her supe constantly persecuted her. It was so bad that I went to my boss and complained about it. I don't know if it was my complaint that did it, but not long thereafter the supervisor was given a different position that had no direct reports. They couldn't just fire her because this was government and civil service rules made it virtually impossible. So they put her in a place where the damage she could do was limited.
The tornado one is Amazon. The driver survived to forward her messages to the media, but six people died when the tornado hit the warehouse, where they’d been told they couldn’t leave when there was still time to do so, and the building did not have adequate shelter. The giant, exterior walls fell right in on them.
In an employee assessment, I got in “ trouble” for taking a bathroom breaks during my 8 hour shifts, then when I asked the HR women okay, if I get in trouble for going to the bathroom, will the manager and her friend (my co-worker) get in trouble for their smoke breaks and bathroom breaks, which they would both take together, leaving me alone to do sales and reception? Also that was against company policy, only one person can leave at a time. She changed the subject pretty quickly.
The Chemo one reminds me of my own experience. First off, my boss and company were great. They weren't the issue. I was on a work term, they gave me a bonus and marked me down as completed work term. The assholes were the unemployment. Because I had finished work 3 weeks early and hadn't worked another job for 2 years (While I was in college I was being paid to go to college, but this wasn't counted as "working"), but I was forced to take Chemo due to a re-emerging Cancer in my lower back, they denied me my unemployment. So I got a bonus from my job, but my unemployment screwed me out of several months worth of medical EI leave.
I have a decent job now, but I will never rely on unemployment again, and I will make sure that if I ever have kids that they never have to deal with them either. I have to send in 4 separate notices with doctors notes saying I physically could not work, and they still denied me it.
I've had that "Don't discuss your pay". It was because I was getting 40% more than new starters. College lecturing job. Start pay was £24k. I was a Doctor of engineering and senior nuclear physicist. Just fancied teaching next generation for a year. They paid me £33k. But I used to get £180k in industry. They got a bargain.
I feel like thats a difftent thing though, idk about everywhere but if i have 20 years experience then a new starter shouldn't be getting what im getting cos i worked my way up. I think it's because ppl of same experience and same position getting paid differently when it should be the same rate per hour etc
Most of these are actually illegal and you could sue the company. Though I think not giving medical leave and and firing someone for not driving into a tornado is legal.
When I worked for Compusa's flagship store in Paramus NJ (in the early to mid 90's), we had a hurricane coming. I forget it's name, but I had work the day it was supposed to arrive. I went to work thinking they would send us home before it really hit. NOPE.. They kept the store open even though we were only getting maybe 2 customers an hour. That number of customers rapidly dropped to 0 as the storm intensified. I was only allowed to leave when my shift was over, which was right about when the storm was at it's worst. If I wasn't driving a jeep at the time, every road home would have been impassable for me. I was miles from home (North Bergen NJ at the time). Power lines were down all over, trees were down, and there was water on the roads in some places 3 plus feet deep. The wind (jeeps are aerodynamic bricks) felt like it was going to tip the jeep.... I was lucky to make it home. It did make me make a rule about being an employee. NO COMPANY pays you enough to be forced into a dangerous situation... If there is a hurricane or ice storm coming, I shelter in place. If the local government is saying for non essential workers to stay home... I stay home..
The chemo one, yes the company were shit for dragging their heels and not making allowance for her treatment.
But (unless they're in the US) you can't criticise their refusal of the plan to donate days of paid leave to her.
In most countries, the US being the notable exception, paid time off is a legal entitlement for every employee and isn't transferrable between people.
It's not a matter in which the company has any discretion.
This screams, "I know this is wrong but you can't blame them that's just how it is" even though it's in their power to do something about it regardless. That makes the company more egregious.
The delivery driver must work for Amazon!!!
Bingo. He died, by the way.
@@feastguy101She lived to present the messages to the media. Six people died in the warehouse when it got hit, though
Of love how #3 is phrased like it is some binding legal document when the thing they are stating is illegal full stop. Even if this was a clause in a contract it cannot enforce an illegal action. I would literally get a copy of that (for my records) and send it to a lawyer straight away.
Oh hell ! I worked for Sainsbury's in UK... there was a couple of ladies who had cancer....they sacked them for having too much sick time off for chemotherapy and radiotherapy.... they both died. Absolutely the baddest word ever doesn't even sum that up. I'm working but have emails about other jobs....big red flag if that's for the same companies year after year.... there is quite a few.
Now I understand why a few years ago sainsburys were so keen to get taken over by asda which is owned by Walmart. I will stop using sainsburys now as that kind of attitude towards its workforce is truly beyond the pale
@@mypointofview1111 ASDA is no longer owned by Walmart.
The story about the transplant the people that got fired could surly take legal action against the boss & company trying to force people to donate organs has to be highly illegal .Actully the lady who passed from cancer her family surly have a case aswell refusing sick leave to a cancer patient if that story went public it would destroy that company fingers crossed them companys get outed for such shamefull behaviour .
i think i would have replied to that tornado one with something along the lines of "i feel not returning at this time will be risking my life if the company insists i stay out in this weather i am afraid the company would be responsible for my death or injury"
Tornado: Park the truck, find a public shelter, and let the Tornado do what it does.
Unfortunately, he returned to the warehouse (Amazon) and it was destroyed by the tornado. Apparently, he lived to tell the tale, though.
I had a job in a call centre type environment where I had to raise my hand to go to the toilet. Needless to say I didn't do it. I got told to log on 30mins unpaid to be ready for the start of the day as the computers were so slow.
If I was stuck on a call I would not get the time back or paid for. I was told it was my own fault if I got a call 1 minute before the end of my shift and must complete it. (Was not allowed to call avoid so it happened)
Told to jump onto calls 30mins as it was busy unpaid.
If the system went down which was often to log our paper logged calls in our breaks and lunch breaks.
All the while we were told be thankful you have a job in 2008.
They had the cheek of you were 1 minute late off your lunch to write you up for it.
That job told me so much at a very young age. Needless to say I've not put up with places like this ever again.
I worked at a call center for AT&T where the after call work time was 15 seconds and it forced you back into the next call. However they expected less than 5 seconds consistently. There was also no time between calls. Back to back all day every day. You could override going back into available yourself but they literally had people who had a tablet showing who went over 20 seconds to come over to your desk and ask what’s taking so long as you were fully expected to wrap up your case and note before each call ended 100% of the time. They also expected that 100% of all calls be over in less than 10 minutes. So if you had a longer call due to something complex they would come over every couple minutes and tell you to wrap it up as you’re taking too long. Not only that but they had no support if you could not figure something out and said “everything you need is in the guides” when it wasn’t. I remember asking one of the mangers to find me the article page paragraph sentence after a literal 90 minute call. They flat out refused to look and said it wasn’t their job to help me. They were a manager mind you. They ran the place like a sweatshop. And the only reason we were so busy is that we had 300 people but they contracted our center to handle the volume of 1,000 people. They did it strange where each call center was allocated an amount from a pool of sorts. People would wait for hours on hold and the closers who were supposed to get off at 9 didn’t until past 10 sometimes 11pm.
The place would lose 2 people on average a day. They would train a class of 26 and only 8 would end up making to to the floor.
And the most evil part: they used a temporary hiring company so almost everyone there was considered a temp so no health benefits or PTO period.
@@fatefingerSounds like WestCorp. From 'hire to I QUIT.' I lasted 3 months, before going back to the hospital after-hours call line, 90 minutes away from home.
These are bosses who have never been sued. They often learn the first time.
"The sirens are just a warning...." yes. THAT THERE IS A FUCKING EMERGENCY IN PROGESS AT THEIR LOCATION!
Can you imagine this exchange in WW2 with air raid siren going off?
Exactly! A tornado warning means a tornado has been spotted and/or there’s a hook echo on radar, aka a tornado
Toilet break button. I worked in a call centre as my first job. We never had any of that. We just had daily preferred targets on call answers in a shift.
As for the cancer patient, that company should be sued for ignoring their duty of care.
Honestly i think someone deserves to be in prison for it, call it manslaughter or something but they wilfully interfered with someone's medical care knowing full well the extent of the issue and continued to do what they did. Companies are big and all but there is definitely someone responsible.
I would certainly like to see that “duty of care” law adopted in the US. I had never heard the phrase until I heard it on a BBC program.
Tornado -must be Amazon in the US
Even if they found a match from their employees, doctors wouldn't take the liver once they found out it wasn't voluntarily donated.
Those tells you why big companies are so hated, any they wonder why people are work shy.
The chemo story: She probably blew through her sick leave. She might have been able to go on disability but that only pays about 60% as I understand it. I suspect the reason they didn’t allow other employees to donate their time is the company depends on most employees not taking all or any of their time.
The unequal pay story: In the US companies can no longer tell employees they can’t share how much they’re paid.
It was 1992, the LA riots. The police were telling people to stay home. My boss was insisting I ignore tye warnings and come to work. I did not work in an ER or anything close to it. I worked for a catalogue company taking phone orders. I stayed home and they did not fire me. I wish they had because in 1994 when my building was red tagged due to an earthquake and the office building had been severely damaged by boss expected me to just work around the exposed electrical wires I quit.
For the organ donation one, not only is that a lawsuit waiting to happen. But I'm pretty sure if you inform the doctor performing the test that you do not want to donate and only doing to maintain your employment, they won't use you or anyone from your firm even if you were a match. Because of ethics.
Not only that but they will be calling the authorities as forcing an employee to under go a medical procedure for personal reasons on the owners part to keep their job is for sure illegal. Especially since it relates to organ donation. He is basically using extortion to get an organ from someone. It is not reasonable to think if you were a match and said no, you'd keep your job. So what he is doing is a very serious felony. If everyone told the docs that's what was going on, the owner is having a conversation about it with the feds for sure.
Most of those sound like massive lawsuits and rightfully so. I hope those companies got sued for millions.
Worst storm to hit the south of the UK in 10 years and Yodel still had their drivers out delivering.
4:02 it’d be time to call a lawyer for clearly a wrongful dismissal case.
I work in a Research and Development job, but got a manager 8 years ago that treats everything like a last minute emergency. Complete chaos and nothing gets done anymore because he can't let people work without constantly interrupting them like he doesn't know what to do with himself. Right before I went on vacation, my father had a heart attack, so I was very busy dealing with real emergencies, and the chaotic manager couldn't make it two days into my planned vacation before he started texting, calling, emailing, and messaging me on every office software and personal number because his boss wanted to use a Photo Booth.
Listened to #4 and thought "How is this #4?". Listened to #2 and thought "theres something worse than this?". #1 really fits the bill. People are evil
How could that company even survive that ? That is obviously illegal to require employees to get tested for a liver donation. You are just going to get tons of lawsuits and the remaining employees (those that couldn't take the free lawsuit money) will only be motivated to get out as quick as they possibly can....
In California, it is illegal for companies to require salary confidentiality. Talking about salaries usually leads to higher salaries across the board.
Discussions about pay in the UK are protected under S77 of the Equality Act 2010, where those discussions are seeking to determine whether differences in pay are regarding a Protected Characteristic (gender, etc.). Restrictions on such discussions are unenforceable. In practice, it's almost impossible to defend a prohibition on discussing pay.
Number 4 is a culpable homicide suit in the making.
3:32. There was a case a few years back where an employee gave her kidney for her boss, and was fired a month later. (IIRC)
If I'm not mistaken, in the US, it's against federal law to tell employees they can't discuss their wages. I actually looked up federal labor laws several years ago and that one caught my eye, as I've been told that by companies over the years.
There is a well known delivery company called DPD. If you want to take time off, you need to find someone willing to cover your route or the company charges you, same if you woke up too unwell. I was told how someone couldn't get anyone to cover his route, he died as he couldn't go to the doctors. Disgusted when I heard that and was so glad I never worked at that place.
Oh yeah, call centers are literally subhuman jobs. The time I worked in one, I was given a warning for going to the bathroom outside break time. I was shocked when I found out I had to ask for permission like a little kid. I will never forget that.
Im a driver manager for an international logistics company. We have a policy. If the driver feels a situation, call it up and find a safe haven. Rain, snow, tornado. 9 times out of ten if i see weather is getting bad where they are delivering, its called before they even head out. But to be fair, ive seen some situations where im like, don't driver, and the driver goes out and handles it, no problem.
Havent any of these companies heard of massive lawsuits for illegal activity,i bet most of these cases went to court
Here is a quick one for you. Love your channel, by the way.
A friend was fired; she was an accountant. So on her last day, she paid off every vendor in full. This included the credit card companies and the mortgage.
This left very little money in the bank.
She was also ordered to cancel all credit cards due to some employee abuse. She told us she made sure to cancel the corporate cards her boss used, even though obviously her boss did not mean to cancel his cards.
"Does he need a volcano?"
I think it would have to be a tornado that was whipping over an erupting volcano, causing liquid magma to fly through the air 😖
Everyone who got let go should get together for a class action lawsuit! Thats outrageous.
Starts at "denied bathroom breaks," goes through "denies cancer patient medical leave," and on to "force employee to commit suicide."
That's just a bit of an escalation, isn't it.
The thing about the Liver testing is go ahead and "go to the test". All you have to do is tell the person who is going to perform it that you were forced to get tested. They will simply record that you are not an acceptable donor.
Re the breast cancer one i have a similar story.
I bloke working where I worked was having chemo.
Everything went well but his doctor wouldn't sign him off fit for work so work insisted he see the works doctor.
Works doctor said he was fit for light duties.
So work gave him the options of come in or get fired.
He went in on the Monday and died on the Wednesday.
Worse part was he had two brother's working in the same place directly under the manager who forced him to work
I don't know if it is a cultural thing or I am just lucky, but I have heard from bosses over here in Germany asking people to come in when they have a cold or something, nothing even remotely on the scale like this.
I might be extremely lucky but my bosses always trusted my own assessment if it was better to stay home for a day or two...
Ever heard of "work to live, don't live to work", bosses?