Russell, thank you very much for this very useful information. I've just spent 3 hours looking for an air compressor and I was bewildered by the choice. I had shortlisted the SGS 100L 14.6 over the 50L but you've just shown me that the 50L 14.6 is probably most sited to my needs/budget. Also, you've highlighted a few of quirks that are useful to be aware of before I purchase. Thanks once again. 👍
@RussellPlatten hi mate really appreciate the review, the mini sander you were using how long can you use before compressor kicks in and also can you use it whilst compressor is on
Thankyou for the insight on this compressor! Have been shopping around for a few days before I stumbled upon this video, really helped hearing you talking in depth about its pros and cons, a lot more that just reading numbers on a website. Cheers Russell
@@RussellPlatten hi mate I’ve bought the 50l one. Is that regulating valve meant to be adjusted by the user or is it factory set? I’m super confused cos the manual is very unclear and poor of I’m honest
Do you mean the pressure safety valve 4:13 on the video Rhys, if you do then I would leave it alone as it should be set up by the factory. If you mean the regulator 2:35 on the video, you use this to set the pressure of the air supplied to the tool. Air tools have different operating pressures and the regulator allows you to set the supplied air to the correct pressure. I suspect that the right hand outlet only delivers the floating pressure that is in the tank and is not adjusted by the regulator. I hope I have answered your question. :-)
I have both mate , my second sgs just died on me last week so I purchased the oil free hyundai. Managed to get the sgs going again but i think it’s taking longer to fill up now. Hence why I’m here looking for refill times 😂 Hyundai is a lot quieter and 2yr warranty!
Great video like you say the instructions are awful, i have same compressor. I dont get the bit where it states, as soon as motor is switched off, the air in the discharge pipe should be released throught the release valve under the switch. It says its necessary as the motor can be damaged. But i cant see no release valve under the switch. Do you use a filter system or drain off on your air line set up thanks.
I've just changed my compressor at 17yrs old for exactly the same reason. The videos showing the result of exploding tanks are frightening. I looked inside the tank of the old one with an endoscope and it was seriously rusty even though water rarely came out of the drain tap after use. It was working perfectly but you can't put a price on peace of mind.👍 I bought a slightly smaller Airmaster (2.5hp-9.5cfm-24L tank) which was the same size tank as the old one but higher CFM and is more than adequate for what I need. My old one had the same design of regulator as yours but my new one has a different, top mounted controller which I think is easier to use.
Hey Russell, you don’t happen to know the power surge this compressor uses on startup? I am trying to run it off of a 3000w inverter and it can’t seem to handle it. The manual states the compressors power as 2.2kw so I thought my inverter would be able to run it. But it seems not. Wondered if you knew the exact surge? Thanks!
Hi Russell, very well demonstrated and clear as usual. Can you check, on mine only one outlet is regulated (left) the one on the right is full pressure. Thanks again for a clear no frills review.
Hi Russ ,is that one over kill for DIY bicycle spraying, or would a 25 L be sufficient run time between coats 5 minutes max . Does it stop water getting in the sprayer . If you recommend. A different one I’m all ears cheer Aivor
Hi Russell great review thanks. I have the same but a 2.5 motor. When i have filled the tank for the first time both gauges read the same (8bar) Is there a particular outlet i should be using out of the two ? Lastly did you leave your valve unscrewed permanently in the end ?
It depends on the air consumption Steven. If you buy a spray gun it should have the average air consumption in the specifications. This compressor delivers 14.6 cfm. With a 50 litre tank the most spray guns will get a decent run before you have to stop or may not run out of air at all. :-)
I have the same compressor but airmaster.what type of impact wrench do you have only i brought a clarke one with the compressor and its utterly useless.wont touch a wheel nut thats only torqued up to 50 newton metres on maximum power setting.great compressor,really disappointed with the impact wrench tho and thats mainly why i brought it.great review,have subscribed to yourchannel.
Hi Russel. I agree with you that the regulator knob is badly situated. I think I might look for a couple of right angle elbows for th outlets, trouble is where they point is a bit random. Another choice might be swivel connectors just to get the hoses away from the knob. I think I would use ear deffenders (as I do when using our old compressor) but then the tools make a lot of noise too. I have seen those exploded tank videos too. If you look at the EU standard for pressure tanks it demands a tough steel tather than high strength steel so that the tank is "leak before break". High strenght steels do the opposite. From my experience in engineering I have wittnessed instances of China supplied steel that meets spec for strength but totally fails for toughness. That makes me nervous of China tanks. As I said before our SIP is 1982 (old than yous) and made in Italy and I have been running it outside away from me for the last six months at least, until I can get around to hydraulic testing it. I don't mean to critise but I think propper eye protestion would be a good idea when making sparks.
Interesting information regarding the steel properties. No excuse for lack of PPE. I will try and remember to wear the appropriate gear. I was an Area Aurhority offshore, responsible for safety and compliance with the HSE regs and procedures, so I should know better! If I was writing a permit for the task it would definitely include goggles and ear defenders! :-)
@@RussellPlatten Hi Russel, I was a 40 year engineer and have been involved in both pressure vessels (eg ASME VIII) and fatigue. It was interesting in the tank failure vids I've seen how the steel looks great inside except at the low point where the drain is. Keep up the good work.
Ive got a 50ltr sgs compressor but its a vertical tank with the motor on the top. Its hardly been used, maybe 300 18 guage brad nails fired through the nailer i bought with it, plus a bit of use of the air gun for blowing sawdust off my bench. Came to use it the other day and it just runs and runs without ever building past 2 bar of pressure. Contacted sgs and theyve asked me for photos/video of the compressor in its working environment. I get that they want to ensure its not being abused, bur like i said, its not had much work to do at all. Do you have any ideas as to what would cause it to not build up pressure after such light use, and is it something i can repair myself before I have to get into warranty claims and couriers, etc. My back is knackered and i'd prefer not to have to drag the thing out of the shed, box it up and send it back, if theres a knob i can tighten or something that will get it going again. Any advice appreciated 👍
My SGS has been retired after seven year's use- The pressure valve/outlet manifold cracked, thanks to crappy monkey metal casting. The spare part is only £30, but l suspect my tank will be rusting, despite draining after use, so I've bought a Hyundai. A little more money than the SGS, but I'm enjoying the silence.
I'm looking at this compressor from sgs for £250 or £190 from parkerbrand which looks identical bar the stickers, you think there the same compressors from china??@xhobv02
14 cfm is the stated air displacement of the engine. FAD is quoted at 8.6 cfm which sounds about right for the given displacement. Just got one of these compressors today. It was very noisy on initial running but after a little use it is actually much quieter than my old 25 litre 2HP comp, although I did go round checking the tightness of all air feed connections and other fittings. Found a couple of pipe unions were quite loose so nipped them up. Quite pleased with it so far.
Russell, thank you very much for this very useful information. I've just spent 3 hours looking for an air compressor and I was bewildered by the choice. I had shortlisted the SGS 100L 14.6 over the 50L but you've just shown me that the 50L 14.6 is probably most sited to my needs/budget. Also, you've highlighted a few of quirks that are useful to be aware of before I purchase. Thanks once again. 👍
Glad I could help! :-)
@RussellPlatten hi mate really appreciate the review, the mini sander you were using how long can you use before compressor kicks in and also can you use it whilst compressor is on
Thanks! again, Russell
Thank you! :-)
Thankyou for the insight on this compressor! Have been shopping around for a few days before I stumbled upon this video, really helped hearing you talking in depth about its pros and cons, a lot more that just reading numbers on a website. Cheers Russell
At 04:25 the knurled ring needs to be screwed in during normal operation. You unscrew and pull out to test the device :)
Thanks for this Russell been looking at these and the Hyundai machine big difference in price
I am happy with mine Paul. It only has occasional use. I used it today to pump up some tyres. :-)
@@RussellPlatten hi mate I’ve bought the 50l one. Is that regulating valve meant to be adjusted by the user or is it factory set? I’m super confused cos the manual is very unclear and poor of I’m honest
Do you mean the pressure safety valve 4:13 on the video Rhys, if you do then I would leave it alone as it should be set up by the factory. If you mean the regulator 2:35 on the video, you use this to set the pressure of the air supplied to the tool. Air tools have different operating pressures and the regulator allows you to set the supplied air to the correct pressure. I suspect that the right hand outlet only delivers the floating pressure that is in the tank and is not adjusted by the regulator. I hope I have answered your question. :-)
I have both mate , my second sgs just died on me last week so I purchased the oil free hyundai.
Managed to get the sgs going again but i think it’s taking longer to fill up now.
Hence why I’m here looking for refill times 😂
Hyundai is a lot quieter and 2yr warranty!
Super informative, no nonsense review Russel, thanks, l have just ordered same, continuous contentment and blessings to you !!!
Glad I could help! :-)
Great video like you say the instructions are awful, i have same compressor. I dont get the bit where it states, as soon as motor is switched off, the air in the discharge pipe should be released throught the release valve under the switch. It says its necessary as the motor can be damaged. But i cant see no release valve under the switch. Do you use a filter system or drain off on your air line set up thanks.
Hi Russ ; my brand new compressor the same as yours. Is hissing when it’s at max capacity . From around the regulator. Area
I've just changed my compressor at 17yrs old for exactly the same reason. The videos showing the result of exploding tanks are frightening. I looked inside the tank of the old one with an endoscope and it was seriously rusty even though water rarely came out of the drain tap after use. It was working perfectly but you can't put a price on peace of mind.👍 I bought a slightly smaller Airmaster (2.5hp-9.5cfm-24L tank) which was the same size tank as the old one but higher CFM and is more than adequate for what I need. My old one had the same design of regulator as yours but my new one has a different, top mounted controller which I think is easier to use.
I'm glad I changed mine! :-)
Hey Russell, you don’t happen to know the power surge this compressor uses on startup? I am trying to run it off of a 3000w inverter and it can’t seem to handle it. The manual states the compressors power as 2.2kw so I thought my inverter would be able to run it. But it seems not. Wondered if you knew the exact surge? Thanks!
Hi Russell, very well demonstrated and clear as usual. Can you check, on mine only one outlet is regulated (left) the one on the right is full pressure. Thanks again for a clear no frills review.
Yes Peter, The right floats on the tank pressure and is not regulated. :-)
Hi Russ ,is that one over kill for DIY bicycle spraying, or would a 25 L be sufficient run time between coats 5 minutes max . Does it stop water getting in the sprayer . If you recommend. A different one I’m all ears cheer Aivor
Hi Russell great review thanks. I have the same but a 2.5 motor.
When i have filled the tank for the first time both gauges read the same (8bar)
Is there a particular outlet i should be using out of the two ?
Lastly did you leave your valve unscrewed permanently in the end ?
Thanks for posting this Russell. You've just persuaded me to order one. 🙂
Enjoy your new compressor! :-)
Noise wise, is it similar to your old unit? As it's a twin head
Excellent review Russell, thanks
nice video .but just wondering how long the spray gun can run without running out of air.
It depends on the air consumption Steven. If you buy a spray gun it should have the average air consumption in the specifications. This compressor delivers 14.6 cfm.
With a 50 litre tank the most spray guns will get a decent run before you have to stop or may not run out of air at all. :-)
Hi folks . What a great video 📹 thank you for all the useful information 🎉 .😊
Could you tell me - is the machine you are talking about, produced in china.
Yes it is Michael. :-)
Thank you! Such a useful educational video for me!
Thank you Russell, this was a very helpful review.🙂
Glad I could help! :-)
I have the same compressor but airmaster.what type of impact wrench do you have only i brought a clarke one with the compressor and its utterly useless.wont touch a wheel nut thats only torqued up to 50 newton metres on maximum power setting.great compressor,really disappointed with the impact wrench tho and thats mainly why i brought it.great review,have subscribed to yourchannel.
Hi Russel. I agree with you that the regulator knob is badly situated. I think I might look for a couple of right angle elbows for th outlets, trouble is where they point is a bit random. Another choice might be swivel connectors just to get the hoses away from the knob.
I think I would use ear deffenders (as I do when using our old compressor) but then the tools make a lot of noise too. I have seen those exploded tank videos too. If you look at the EU standard for pressure tanks it demands a tough steel tather than high strength steel so that the tank is "leak before break". High strenght steels do the opposite. From my experience in engineering I have wittnessed instances of China supplied steel that meets spec for strength but totally fails for toughness. That makes me nervous of China tanks. As I said before our SIP is 1982 (old than yous) and made in Italy and I have been running it outside away from me for the last six months at least, until I can get around to hydraulic testing it.
I don't mean to critise but I think propper eye protestion would be a good idea when making sparks.
Interesting information regarding the steel properties. No excuse for lack of PPE. I will try and remember to wear the appropriate gear. I was an Area Aurhority offshore, responsible for safety and compliance with the HSE regs and procedures, so I should know better! If I was writing a permit for the task it would definitely include goggles and ear defenders! :-)
@@RussellPlatten Hi Russel, I was a 40 year engineer and have been involved in both pressure vessels (eg ASME VIII) and fatigue.
It was interesting in the tank failure vids I've seen how the steel looks great inside except at the low point where the drain is.
Keep up the good work.
:-)
Super helpful, thank you, Russell
Glad I could help Mike! :-)
Nice one Russell...Good explanation too 🙂
Cheers Russ, Mrs P saw that meteor last night! :-)
Good review, thanks.
Cheers Darren! :-)
Very good review
Thank you! :-)
Ive got a 50ltr sgs compressor but its a vertical tank with the motor on the top.
Its hardly been used, maybe 300 18 guage brad nails fired through the nailer i bought with it, plus a bit of use of the air gun for blowing sawdust off my bench.
Came to use it the other day and it just runs and runs without ever building past 2 bar of pressure.
Contacted sgs and theyve asked me for photos/video of the compressor in its working environment. I get that they want to ensure its not being abused, bur like i said, its not had much work to do at all.
Do you have any ideas as to what would cause it to not build up pressure after such light use, and is it something i can repair myself before I have to get into warranty claims and couriers, etc.
My back is knackered and i'd prefer not to have to drag the thing out of the shed, box it up and send it back, if theres a knob i can tighten or something that will get it going again.
Any advice appreciated 👍
My SGS has been retired after seven year's use- The pressure valve/outlet manifold cracked, thanks to crappy monkey metal casting. The spare part is only £30, but l suspect my tank will be rusting, despite draining after use, so I've bought a Hyundai. A little more money than the SGS, but I'm enjoying the silence.
Safety valve confused me aswell
Yes Aaron, it is a weird set up! :-)
I have two of these and they run at 8ish cfm.. one machine will not run two 5cfm tools, hence me buying two machines.
I don't have any issues with mine, it is much better than my old one. :-)
Yes it’s Euro
Cheers BK, I thought it was. :-)
Everything is made in china. Even clarke. Although clarke claim they are made in UK,, they are not,
:-)
They must be. Otherwise, they wouldn't say it.
I bought almost identical compressor (blue colour) under the German brand Güde. They are all made in China.
I'm looking at this compressor from sgs for £250 or £190 from parkerbrand which looks identical bar the stickers, you think there the same compressors from china??@xhobv02
@@TheWhisky81 Yeah i think they are i'm looking at buying the parkerbrand 50l 9.6cfm version at £127 vs sgs at £140 same as the airmaster tiger to XD.
Hi Russle,can you tell me what Db's this gives out, Cheers.
I do not have the equipment to check the sound level myself, but it states 97 dB in the specifications. :-)
14 cfms my ass....probably more like 3 to 4 tops
Have to disagree with that! :-)
I have two of these and they run at 8CFM not 14
14 cfm is the stated air displacement of the engine. FAD is quoted at 8.6 cfm which sounds about right for the given displacement. Just got one of these compressors today. It was very noisy on initial running but after a little use it is actually much quieter than my old 25 litre 2HP comp, although I did go round checking the tightness of all air feed connections and other fittings. Found a couple of pipe unions were quite loose so nipped them up. Quite pleased with it so far.