All it’s doing it’s mechanically breaking up the surface tension and allowing the surface gold to sink and gets trapped by the sluice box. Amazing video! Cheers from California! This is one of those one of kind think outside the box teachers that really know their stuff!
I saw this setup a year or so back when you did a clean up for Chris, you explained the setup/how/why. I immediately ordered a new sluice and vibration motor from that video. Built my own, and love it!! I just now 38 minutes ago found your video, thanks for the set up idea. I’ve always thought adding vibration to the sluice would help settle more gold out. You proved it does. Thank you and God bless you sir‼️
This might be the best gold video on UA-cam, absolutely genius. Furthermore, finally there is somebody that made a gold video that tests the tailings. Everybody wants the ooooos and ahhhhhs from looking at the gold, but nobody seems to want to do the most important work that of testing the tailings. It's like we live in a world of idiots. I can't begin to tell you how happy I am to have found this video, made my day.
So glad I saw this video. I have asked Pat Keene about this very idea and we discussed it at length for not only already being used in commercial setups but how to get it into small personal setups on the go. I have heard about snipers going in after a commercial season and people getting good fines out of their tailings from the season. A lot of these commercial outfits can still benefit and it blows my mind they don’t do this especially since they run so long and run mats that don’t have active exchange and clean outs at more often intervals. Another gentleman was talking about a two stage vibrator that not only changes RPM but also somehow frequency much like a sine wave testing generator for speakers. Meaning going through many frequencies to affect a better length of the box. But it seemed to be cheaper to run more vibrators along the length instead. Nonetheless this was an awesome video and I’m finally glad to see others think like I do and also get good results
Great to see a vibrator on a sluice! I have been experimenting with a wand vibrator in a pail of material to concentrate heavies at the bottom before panning. It works quite well but it's not anywhere near as good as this!
Thank you for sharing this with us totally afflicted fools of gold fever ... It put my mind in a spin of ideas branching out of your excellent innovation It is winter here for the next 3 months , I've plenty of wood for the wood stove and no reason not to go build a sluice with a built on vibrator and start tuning it up . I have a dozen buckets of material containg loads of super fine gold Thanks again !
Wow ! ,im over recycling my tailings through the sluice and panning again and again for this best results. Where i fossick has flour gold just like your dirt no flakes. Thanks for sharing. Bloody champion mate. All the best.
Thanks for the vid.👍 I like your riffle set up, similar to mine. About 8 years ago I was determined to make a riffle tray that could handle a variation in water flow and make the tray angle / pump size not so critical and catch a broader size of gold. To achieve that I had to reduce the size of the tray from 12 " to 8 "width to get the velocity I needed and I made up the riffle rack incorporating the 3 classic riffle designs, 4x Z, 4 x angled and 2 @ right angle. Spent ages making it up out of stainless etc and it was amazing what it captured and worked perfectly. These days Im getting lazy and I replaced it with the dream mat to save on processing time with the massive difference in cons volume. I was pretty proud of what I made but as it is with most things these days there is always someone else one step ahead. As per your vibrator, well done. cheers Johno
The legend is back 👍 Excellent production mate and very informative. Well done getting that extra fine gold 👌 Best part of an extra $500 and absolutely worth the effort. You are a very successful and deserving prospector John.
Super cool idea! some thoughts I had. So if you want more vibration you should try to isolate the sluice from the wood frame with some rubber or other soft material. That will allow the box to move a little more. Also the vibration is getting in the tub your apparatus is sitting on. So it's getting into the tailings bucket so the gold may all settle to the bottom of the bucket.
Absolutely spot on. Use rubber mounts to attach the sluice to the bath and you'll get much more vibration where you want it. It'll be heaps quieter you could possibly turn the vibrator down a notch or use a smaller 12V one.
Yes, yes yes I've been working on a vibration project also mines just a little different it just makes sense to capture as much fine gold b4 it is blown out the end of the sluice it takes a little more effort and patience but much more profiencent great video 👍💖😎✨🏞️🇺🇸
Good job being so thorough in checking and double checking the tailings. I live near an area with loads of super fine gold and this really caught my attention and got me thinking.
I am in the Mississippi river valley area and all we really have here is fine gold. I know a place with a really exceptional amount of it, but I've been struggling to figure out how to recover it. I think you've given me a really good thought though! Thanks for the video. I'm going to take my 9 year old son and my partner to that really good spot early next week. He's never been there but she has. Last time we went though, we really had no clue how to find gold. This time we're going in with a plan and a lot better equipment!
Very well done brilliant, another improvement you could add is a Variarc Transformer hooked into the inverter and the vibrator plugged into the Variarc by doing this you can control the voltage to your vibrator thus giving you many more options of vibration waves, full blast short fast waves turned down slower waves, I use a Variarc Transformer on my clean out sluice and can adjust the water flow Exactly the way I want it, you could do the same with your vibrator and get a variety of Different types of vibration that could even affect the gold better.
Yep. Good suggestion. This model was a fixed speed, but I can definitely see the benefit of a variable speed adjuster as there would most likely be an optimum frequency. Thanks for the input. Regards Aussie
Thats swesome! I am hand panning a bucket full of flour gold and mica tailing and I was so sure that I type of vibration would carry and collect but I don't have your experience or equipment but I will now rig up something and give it a go. Cheers
If you can't afford a concrete vibrator, a cheap orbital palm-sander is a good alternative. Buy a second-hand/used one, as they will trash their bearings if bolted securely. Mount it on springs.
So glad to see your still on to as many ways as possible to recover the finest amount of gold. I have leart so much from all your UA-cam videos ❤it 😊😊😊
We know that we are missing gold, but don't want to admit it to others or worse ourselves. I know that we lose super fine gold in the silty water. Do you feel that the vibration is dropping this float gold? Your other principles of slowing the water and sluice angle are spot on . Years ago we put a small vibrator run off our air supply on my dredge as advised by an old timer who was willing to share his experiences like you are doing. Well done and thanks for sharing!
@@arcticminer32 I've had my own thoughts and theories about how to catch the ultra fine gold particles. One of them is to use alfalfa that has been charged with electrical static and shoved into a laundry bag that has holes everywhere more like a fish net. And as the water passes through this bag particles of metals will be attracted to it. Another one is to have a sluice that gets really wide so it slows down near the bottom of the sluice box. The wider it gets the slower it will become and hopefully allowing the ultra fine gold to drop out and stay in a sluice box. Things I have never tried since coming up with them from other miners knowledge and experience..
In my state of Michigan that’s about the only kind of gold that‘ you will find. A concrete vibratory may be a bit too much for my set up but an electric sander may be the trick. Great info. Thanks.
I found lots of mustard gold here in Idaho where we go for the summer and I'm not telling where at yet but I will at a later date but this is a great idea and I will be using this idea when I get up to the river that I go to good job mate keep it up
Absolute awesomeness!!! Love your idea and you proved it works! Thank you John for that warm Aussie Love! Adore your accent ❤❤❤ Coming from Alberta, Canada 🇨🇦❤ Love Australia 🇦🇺 ❤ Blessings 2U
Great video sir. You’ve got my brain engaged in how to mechanically reproduce the tap tap tap of the pan. Also thought of a table like if you ever played air hockey on. All small holes blowing controllable jets of air with another source of air blowing above the surface so as to blow the light material away while the gold stays. The other idea stems from another series of videos I’ve seen where the table is flat and under it is a speaker. From the speaker they play a constant mhz freq and with each new freq change different distinct geometric patterns forms as it vibrates. Each change results in a different pattern entirely. How would gold react given the different density of the quarts Vs gold. There is a name for these tables but I’m sorry I don’t remember. Basically boiled down to the same sand given changes in mhz would result in distinct new lines being formed. Don’t know if this thinking out loud is helpful but certainly the collective mind can refine over time better than a small number of individuals thinking about the same problem.
get a craftsman oscillating tool. 👀 they come with a real crappy scraper that magically fits that hole in your gold pan. once you drill a 1/4" hole ofc. bolt it together and use a couple rubber washers between the pan and the scraper head. run it on HIGH. no low stuff. it will fling and beat up everything. the key to this is high frequency. drill that hole as close to the end of the scraper bit as possible. i used a carbide burr. stick some lead on top of a hand full of sand and test that bad boy lolol
Crazy experiment that I wouldn't have guessed would have caught any gold, especially with carpet, tiny expanded metal, & big-ish rifles. A shaker sluice that still needs to be panned instead of a one and done shaker table. Hmm; idk; I guess it's good if you can't make a shaker table. No videos for 3 years, No reply for a year; was interesting to think about though. Would like to figure out how to do fine gold recovery or most of it straight away. - Am thinkin tight roller screens to classify fine gold and sand at the moment, never thought about vibration as I thought it would compact or bounce gold out and wash away. Cool vid.
Thanks Aussie Bloke, I'm right now building a new "thing" to concentrate super fine (I work on alluvial flour gold, a litlle bigger than yours here but I know there's a few going away, not a lot but enough to think about it!) and the basis of the idea is to use vibration to get more efficiency! With your video and test and know now I'm on the right way ;) If interested, I could send to you the whole idea when finished. Cheers!
A brilliant setup and careful testing! Does what is needed in the simplest mechanical setup possible. If you are not an engineer or scientist, you may have missed your true calling. Thanks for the video, I'm going to check out the rest of them.
I use felt on the very bottom of my high banker. So far this is working awesome. I also incorporated rare earth magnets. That catches all the black sand that has gold attached. Unbelievable how much gold is connected to the black sand. I'm pulling about a half gram of gold per bucket. Good day !!!
Yea that was cool . Funny I thought about that this morning , and I pulled out the vibra5or and showed it to my brother. Then I came across your video tonight. I just knew it. Premanision !
Aussie block, great video thank you for sharing, I have a couple of Vibco SCR's that are adjustable speed that I use on different pieces of equipment. Since your tailings are clean then you got the direction right. Most people don't know that it does make a difference which way you mount the vibrator, it can help you or hurt you.
@@AussieBlokeProspector Come to think of it, it would interesting for you to try an experiment and rotate your vibrator 180 degree's and see what happens.
I always knew concrete vibrators would be instrumental with gold prospecting/mining back when I saw one in action in construction. :) You should try to rig up a metal rod to stick into a bucket of concentrates with water in it...and then vibrate for 5 minutes and see if it drops all the gold to the bottom of the bucket (or smaller container like gallon milk jug or transparent container that size like quart jar)
Just noting - your tailings bucket is being vibrated throughout the process somewhat, which means that gold will may be settling downward in the tailings bucket, and therefore won't be in a scoop from the top of the bucket. It would be worth panning down further throughout your tailings bucket to understand whether any gold is getting through. The reason I mention this is that you said the material is getting compacted on your sluice, and gold has a very hard time moving through compacted material. Just something too think about. Thanks for your video.
Need to try a setup like that for the gold in my area. Only thing I've found that works on it is to collect by panning and smelting the cons. Nice job dude!!!!
How fine is that gold? My guess is about 300 mesh. I don't use the 'swirlie' reveal on this size gold. If you just start tapping the blondes will travel to the near side of the pan leaving the fine gold behind. I think you will find it easier. Thanks for the idea about the concrete vibrator, it should work well for a vibrating screen also.
@@AussieBlokeProspector Yeah, but it tends to wash away the super fine stuff. Since that is all I deal with, I don't keep going back and forth. When I run into some 50 mesh plus, I can lose it without seeing it since it behaves differently.
Great video mate 👌, if you are ever down in Gippsland look me up, I've got some tools that would help you with your flour gold catching expedition, also have a wave table which is the absolute best for the -100 mesh 🤙just a suggestion which you might like try is, the mount for the vibration motor laying over slightly towards the up stream side of your sluice which should make it act like tapping the top of your pan walking the gold up behind the riffles instead of just straight to the bottom
Fair point you raise.... but yes, through all the testing phases, I did... I just didn't show all that considering how long the vid is...but I probably should have mentioned that. The bottom of the bucket results were no different from the top. Regards Aussie
Love that you don’t make people (at least me🤷🏻♂️)feel they’re being petty about the lil amounts that will actually be a good amount in the end . I always wonder if gravel pit companies even consider collecting gold ?🤷🏻♂️ I’m curious if water temperature helps or if warm water with cold materials or other way around 🤷🏻♂️
Oh, P.S. Sir, I subscribed to your channel and liked the video for you. Keep the Gold videos coming. Liking them alot!!! Someday, I would love to goldmine in Australia. It's so full of the stuff and New Zealand too. Take-Care....Mike.
Just a thought: a non-motorised modification to a river sluice could be possible for use on-site, in the stream flow. Most of the flow energy of the stream's water could be diverted from the sluice channel and converted to the required direction, frequency and magnitude. It'd likely be a linear function of the water volume and flow, and non-mechanical (perhaps using memory-material) as well to comply with some states' fossicking regulations. There's possibly already a device like this being used in other industries such agriculture that can be adapted. Or, someone may have already invented such a device for their sluice.
Perhaps a good application of redirected water. Having said that, the subject here is about making a simple vibration bed, which should not be used in the bush, but at home as part of a Gold recovery arsenal. Thanks or the input. Regards Aussie
good stuff by the way i use vibration for cleaning up gold plated components i in the restoration of antique harps made from a 12 volt car heater fan with an offset piece of metal and a container for the bits with water and cutting compound just a suggestion to save dragging a 200 kilometre extension cord from home or worse still a generator lol cheers from Tasmania
I already do this but I use a twelve volt vibrater with a variable speed controller! For me your vibrator is too fast and your result will be 100% if you slow the vibration down! Cheers Rob!
You can control 240 volt motor buy adjusting the 50hz frequency but a motor control. Look on concrete vibrator and you can see you can buy a speed controller
IF its not too much to ask please help me disect this so I can learn intricate details of what I think I missed by answering the following ? one at a time. Sorry. Just trying to learn more, and this is one awesome video. Thank you already for all youve done for all of us in this learn/share opportunity. Kyle Pa-USA When you first ran the original material through the sluice at the original setpoints, is the material in the buckets at the start of this video all of the tailings from that original run? what was the original batch weight + recovery = kg? My summary of this: You took your orginal tailings, and recrushed them to classify smaller. Then modified the sluice to the 11:1 with vibration and reduced flow and then re ran the cons to concentrate further once you were satisfied that the tailings no longer held any fines (if i am understanding correctly). After all modifications, now knowing what you know....would you suggest that next time you start off by crushing 1st to the 100mesh for consistincy purposes, and then sluice at the modified settings, and finainlly then sluice the cons 1x tand then blue bowl the total cons?
Happy to answer mate... The original run was approx 150 kg for 45 grams which is equivalent to around 9.5 oz....and yep....re-crushed and re-ran. If I was chasing maximum recovery for smelting, then yes I could fast track the process by crushing finer straight off...definitely. Regards Aussie
I wonder if a low frequency oscillator could produce a similar effect?...just a random thought. Thanks for all the great vids too. Best of luck out there 👍🏼👍🏼
It may well. This model was a fixed speed, but I can definitely see the benefit of a variable speed adjuster as there would most likely be an optimum frequency. Thanks for the input. Regards Aussie
Aussie Bloke Prospector Ernst Chladni (and his plate experiments), a German physicist is your man for optimum frequency’s. That’s fully ‘geeking out’ but there may be something useful to be gained. Thanks again for your videos, much appreciated. Champion!!
Very nice. Recovered what, about $400 worth that would have been lost? Brilliant. It's still measured in troy ounces I'm guessing? It's been a long while since my prospecting days. I'd love to get back up the Palmer River again.
That is a huge payback for a simple mod. I was just thinking about doing this myself the other day and this morning your video was suggested. Oddly a cement vibrator also came up on an ad this morning as well. Hmm, must be meant to be.
All it’s doing it’s mechanically breaking up the surface tension and allowing the surface gold to sink and gets trapped by the sluice box. Amazing video! Cheers from California! This is one of those one of kind think outside the box teachers that really know their stuff!
You probably don’t want to think about how much gold you have thrown away over the years. Great idea
I know right.
Oh my goodness.
I saw this setup a year or so back when you did a clean up for Chris, you explained the setup/how/why. I immediately ordered a new sluice and vibration motor from that video.
Built my own, and love it!! I just now 38 minutes ago found your video, thanks for the set up idea. I’ve always thought adding vibration to the sluice would help settle more gold out. You proved it does. Thank you and God bless you sir‼️
This might be the best gold video on UA-cam, absolutely genius.
Furthermore, finally there is somebody that made a gold video that tests the tailings. Everybody wants the ooooos and ahhhhhs from looking at the gold, but nobody seems to want to do the most important work that of testing the tailings. It's like we live in a world of idiots.
I can't begin to tell you how happy I am to have found this video, made my day.
So glad I saw this video. I have asked Pat Keene about this very idea and we discussed it at length for not only already being used in commercial setups but how to get it into small personal setups on the go. I have heard about snipers going in after a commercial season and people getting good fines out of their tailings from the season. A lot of these commercial outfits can still benefit and it blows my mind they don’t do this especially since they run so long and run mats that don’t have active exchange and clean outs at more often intervals.
Another gentleman was talking about a two stage vibrator that not only changes RPM but also somehow frequency much like a sine wave testing generator for speakers. Meaning going through many frequencies to affect a better length of the box. But it seemed to be cheaper to run more vibrators along the length instead.
Nonetheless this was an awesome video and I’m finally glad to see others think like I do and also get good results
Thanks for the extra input mate. Glad you enjoyed it. Regards Aussie
@blech71
Has your buddy Pat Keene gotten in touch with you about your idea's LMAO! God bless mate
John is the real deal🤠. Grab a pen and take notes boys, schools in session lol.
Keep them coming John
Cheers mate
Excellent, you just increased the amount of recovered material by every prospector who watches your video by a minimum of 10%, thank you
Great to see a vibrator on a sluice! I have been experimenting with a wand vibrator in a pail of material to concentrate heavies at the bottom before panning. It works quite well but it's not anywhere near as good as this!
Thank you for sharing this with us totally afflicted fools of gold fever ... It put my mind in a spin of ideas branching out of your excellent innovation
It is winter here for the next 3 months , I've plenty of wood for the wood stove and no reason not to go build a sluice with a built on vibrator and start tuning it up . I have a dozen buckets of material containg loads of super fine gold
Thanks again !
Thanks for that, great clip. You’ve really got great technique at explaining things- best I’ve seen on the net. 👍
Cheers mate. I appreciate the huge compliment. Regards Aussie
I always enjoy to se another man succeed! There are almost always a solution to new challenges..
Cheers mate and too true. Regards Aussie
That is absolutely amazing!! thank you for the detail and time you put into this video. I am gobsmacked at the incredible results
Thank you and you are most welcome. Regards Aussie
Wow ! ,im over recycling my tailings through the sluice and panning again and again for this best results. Where i fossick has flour gold just like your dirt no flakes. Thanks for sharing. Bloody champion mate. All the best.
Glad to help out mate. Regards Aussie
Thanks for the vid.👍
I like your riffle set up, similar to mine. About 8 years ago I was determined to make a riffle tray that could handle a variation in water flow and make the tray angle / pump size not so critical and catch a broader size of gold. To achieve that I had to reduce the size of the tray from 12 " to 8 "width to get the velocity I needed and I made up the riffle rack incorporating the 3 classic riffle designs, 4x Z, 4 x angled and 2 @ right angle. Spent ages making it up out of stainless etc and it was amazing what it captured and worked perfectly. These days Im getting lazy and I replaced it with the dream mat to save on processing time with the massive difference in cons volume. I was pretty proud of what I made but as it is with most things these days there is always someone else one step ahead. As per your vibrator, well done.
cheers Johno
The legend is back 👍
Excellent production mate and very informative. Well done getting that extra fine gold 👌 Best part of an extra $500 and absolutely worth the effort. You are a very successful and deserving prospector John.
Cheers Neil. Thanks for the kind words. All the best. Regards John
Super cool idea!
some thoughts I had. So if you want more vibration you should try to isolate the sluice from the wood frame with some rubber or other soft material. That will allow the box to move a little more. Also the vibration is getting in the tub your apparatus is sitting on. So it's getting into the tailings bucket so the gold may all settle to the bottom of the bucket.
Thanks for the tips! Definitely worth considering. BTW...I did check the buckets..and they were gold free...just didn't show that. Regards Aussie
Absolutely spot on. Use rubber mounts to attach the sluice to the bath and you'll get much more vibration where you want it. It'll be heaps quieter you could possibly turn the vibrator down a notch or use a smaller 12V one.
For me the vibration worked so well that my water was jumping up in the air. I had to add a speed controller on the vibrator.
Yes, yes yes I've been working on a vibration project also mines just a little different it just makes sense to capture as much fine gold b4 it is blown out the end of the sluice it takes a little more effort and patience but much more profiencent great video 👍💖😎✨🏞️🇺🇸
Correct...small gold is far more prolific than big gold and it's amazing how it adds up. Cheers. Regards Aussie
Good job being so thorough in checking and double checking the tailings. I live near an area with loads of super fine gold and this really caught my attention and got me thinking.
Cheers mate. Yep it's amazing how much fine gold is out there. All the best with it. Regards Aussie
One of the Better Videos on the Tube!!!!... and Great Channel.... always learn something here!!!
Wow, thanks mate. Regards Aussie
I am in the Mississippi river valley area and all we really have here is fine gold. I know a place with a really exceptional amount of it, but I've been struggling to figure out how to recover it. I think you've given me a really good thought though! Thanks for the video. I'm going to take my 9 year old son and my partner to that really good spot early next week. He's never been there but she has. Last time we went though, we really had no clue how to find gold. This time we're going in with a plan and a lot better equipment!
Well done Champ, brilliantly described step by step. You're a master.
Thank you kindly! Regards Aussie
good job sonny Jim
Well let's gooo!
So come on, let's goooo !
But you already knew that didn't ya boy
Cook em some eggs n beans jeff
Cheers mate. Regards Aussie
I would have to say 99+ % recovery.
Good job matey. And the best part is it's not expensive modification. 👍👍👍
Thanks mate. and yes cheap and very effective. Regards Aussie
Wow!!!! That was very impressive... I never in a million would have thought you would have gotten that much gold... thanks for sharing
You're welcome. Yep...It's amazing how much fine Gold can escape a conventional set-up. Regards Aussie
Very well done brilliant, another improvement you could add is a Variarc Transformer hooked into the inverter and the vibrator plugged into the Variarc by doing this you can control the voltage to your vibrator thus giving you many more options of vibration waves, full blast short fast waves turned down slower waves, I use a Variarc Transformer on my clean out sluice and can adjust the water flow Exactly the way I want it, you could do the same with your vibrator and get a variety of Different types of vibration that could even affect the gold better.
Yep. Good suggestion. This model was a fixed speed, but I can definitely see the benefit of a variable speed adjuster as there would most likely be an optimum frequency. Thanks for the input. Regards Aussie
Fantastic idea thanks
Hi John,
Well done John, a brilliant idea. Another masterclass.
All the best mate
Mark
Cheers Mark. Regards John
Thats swesome! I am hand panning a bucket full of flour gold and mica tailing and I was so sure that I type of vibration would carry and collect but I don't have your experience or equipment but I will now rig up something and give it a go. Cheers
You showed me how to crevice on you tube
Years ago! You are the boss! Thanks from Texas!
Glad to have helped so far around the globe. Regards Aussie
excellent teachings buddy, have been struggling with flour gold clean up's, this is a great method. thanks mate
Thanks mate. Glad to help. Regards Aussie
If you can't afford a concrete vibrator, a cheap orbital palm-sander is a good alternative. Buy a second-hand/used one, as they will trash their bearings if bolted securely. Mount it on springs.
Thanks for the suggestion. Regards Aussie
So glad to see your still on to as many ways as possible to recover the finest amount of gold. I have leart so much from all your UA-cam videos ❤it 😊😊😊
Absolutely brilliant ! Just ordered my vibrator on ebay. $19.95 AUD and free postage. Great work.
Lol..sounds funny... Cheers for the thumbs up. Regards Aussie
Pretty clever idea using the weight of gold itself, coupled with vibration, to winnow out all you can. Reminds me of the sonic cleaner principle.
Thanks mate. I guess it is really when you consider the frequency of vibration. Regards Aussie
21 years I have been a CFA volunteer here in VIC,we all need time to make ourselves right mate...
Job done well sir, something I've always felt was the biggest loss is all the fine gold. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Very welcome mate. Regards Aussie
We know that we are missing gold, but don't want to admit it to others or worse ourselves. I know that we lose super fine gold in the silty water. Do you feel that the vibration is dropping this float gold? Your other principles of slowing the water and sluice angle are spot on . Years ago we put a small vibrator run off our air supply on my dredge as advised by an old timer who was willing to share his experiences like you are doing. Well done and thanks for sharing!
@@arcticminer32 I've had my own thoughts and theories about how to catch the ultra fine gold particles. One of them is to use alfalfa that has been charged with electrical static and shoved into a laundry bag that has holes everywhere more like a fish net. And as the water passes through this bag particles of metals will be attracted to it. Another one is to have a sluice that gets really wide so it slows down near the bottom of the sluice box. The wider it gets the slower it will become and hopefully allowing the ultra fine gold to drop out and stay in a sluice box. Things I have never tried since coming up with them from other miners knowledge and experience..
This is great for the sulfide ores I am running into in Western States in the US. Thanks brother!
Really glad I could help ...all the way from Oz. Cheers. Regards Aussie
In my state of Michigan that’s about the only kind of gold that‘ you will find.
A concrete vibratory may be a bit too much for my set up but an electric sander may be the trick.
Great info. Thanks.
Give it a go mate. All the best. Regards Aussie
STELLAR!!! Just a galaxy in your pan! Thank you! Brilliant!
Miss your videos mate, hope you're well
I found lots of mustard gold here in Idaho where we go for the summer and I'm not telling where at yet but I will at a later date but this is a great idea and I will be using this idea when I get up to the river that I go to good job mate keep it up
Thanks mate. Sounds great! I hope it works for you. Let me know. Regards Aussie
Another very informative video, John. Really appreciate the time and effort that you put into making this video.
Very welcome and thank you. Regards Aussie
Enjoyed watching your video sir. I got some great ideas for my own projects now. Thank you for taking the time to share. Cheers 🍻
So very impressive mate!
Thanks For Sharing.
I am always experimenting also, but your results are Absolutely Incredible
Absolute awesomeness!!! Love your idea and you proved it works! Thank you John for that warm Aussie Love!
Adore your accent ❤❤❤
Coming from Alberta, Canada 🇨🇦❤ Love Australia 🇦🇺 ❤
Blessings 2U
Just the video I need to watch, last night I was dealing with some powdered gold and was having a horrific time trying to capture it.
Glad to help out mate. Good timing I guess. Regards Aussie
Thank you sooooo much! This is the type of gold we can get here and i needed a solution! Thank you again!
Love your new pup. He is adorable.
He is...and my Little mate. Regards Aussie
Great video sir. You’ve got my brain engaged in how to mechanically reproduce the tap tap tap of the pan. Also thought of a table like if you ever played air hockey on. All small holes blowing controllable jets of air with another source of air blowing above the surface so as to blow the light material away while the gold stays. The other idea stems from another series of videos I’ve seen where the table is flat and under it is a speaker. From the speaker they play a constant mhz freq and with each new freq change different distinct geometric patterns forms as it vibrates. Each change results in a different pattern entirely. How would gold react given the different density of the quarts Vs gold. There is a name for these tables but I’m sorry I don’t remember. Basically boiled down to the same sand given changes in mhz would result in distinct new lines being formed. Don’t know if this thinking out loud is helpful but certainly the collective mind can refine over time better than a small number of individuals thinking about the same problem.
get a craftsman oscillating tool. 👀 they come with a real crappy scraper that magically fits that hole in your gold pan. once you drill a 1/4" hole ofc. bolt it together and use a couple rubber washers between the pan and the scraper head. run it on HIGH. no low stuff. it will fling and beat up everything. the key to this is high frequency. drill that hole as close to the end of the scraper bit as possible. i used a carbide burr. stick some lead on top of a hand full of sand and test that bad boy lolol
Thanks for sharing. Thanks for taking the time to film and edit all that. I enjoyed watching.
Top quality video. You know what your on about, and have a real knack for explaining what your doing! Thanks very much mate.
Thanks a lot for the huge thumbs up mate. Regards Aussie
Dynamite job there, Mate, and explained super clearly....thank you for that and keep on keepin on.....
Bill
Thanks, will do! Regards Aussie
Crazy experiment that I wouldn't have guessed would have caught any gold, especially with carpet, tiny expanded metal, & big-ish rifles. A shaker sluice that still needs to be panned instead of a one and done shaker table. Hmm; idk; I guess it's good if you can't make a shaker table.
No videos for 3 years, No reply for a year; was interesting to think about though. Would like to figure out how to do fine gold recovery or most of it straight away. - Am thinkin tight roller screens to classify fine gold and sand at the moment, never thought about vibration as I thought it would compact or bounce gold out and wash away. Cool vid.
Thanks Aussie Bloke, I'm right now building a new "thing" to concentrate super fine (I work on alluvial flour gold, a litlle bigger than yours here but I know there's a few going away, not a lot but enough to think about it!) and the basis of the idea is to use vibration to get more efficiency! With your video and test and know now I'm on the right way ;)
If interested, I could send to you the whole idea when finished. Cheers!
That's great... I'd very much be interested. You can contact me through my website here: www.eurekaprospecting.com.au/76/contact-us. Regards Aussie
A brilliant setup and careful testing! Does what is needed in the simplest mechanical setup possible. If you are not an engineer or scientist, you may have missed your true calling. Thanks for the video, I'm going to check out the rest of them.
Very good job.
I'm not a prospector but that stuff will increase my knowledge. Thanks
I use felt on the very bottom of my high banker. So far this is working awesome. I also incorporated rare earth magnets. That catches all the black sand that has gold attached. Unbelievable how much gold is connected to the black sand. I'm pulling about a half gram of gold per bucket. Good day !!!
Good for you mate. If it works...keep doin it. Regards Aussie
Really good system that. I will try and incorporate this into the recovery circuit on my Rod Mill along with a fluid bed pulse jig.
Cheers mate. Let me know how it goes. Regards Aussie
Yea that was cool . Funny I thought about that this morning , and I pulled out the vibra5or and showed it to my brother. Then I came across your video tonight. I just knew it. Premanision !
Great idea and well done👊 I've never panned before but I need to give it a go.. Thanks for the video👍
Thanks mate. You should. All the best. Regards Aussie
Aussie block, great video thank you for sharing, I have a couple of Vibco SCR's that are adjustable speed that I use on different pieces of equipment. Since your tailings are clean then you got the direction right. Most people don't know that it does make a difference which way you mount the vibrator, it can help you or hurt you.
Thanks for the tip... I'll bear that in mind for future projects. Regards Aussie
@@AussieBlokeProspector Come to think of it, it would interesting for you to try an experiment and rotate your vibrator 180 degree's and see what happens.
Really cool set up for such fine gold. Keep on digging.
Thank you... and I will. Regards Aussie
Very interesting information and awesome cheap method to obtain gold thank you for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it mate. Regards Aussie
I always knew concrete vibrators would be instrumental with gold prospecting/mining back when I saw one in action in construction. :) You should try to rig up a metal rod to stick into a bucket of concentrates with water in it...and then vibrate for 5 minutes and see if it drops all the gold to the bottom of the bucket (or smaller container like gallon milk jug or transparent container that size like quart jar)
Just noting - your tailings bucket is being vibrated throughout the process somewhat, which means that gold will may be settling downward in the tailings bucket, and therefore won't be in a scoop from the top of the bucket. It would be worth panning down further throughout your tailings bucket to understand whether any gold is getting through. The reason I mention this is that you said the material is getting compacted on your sluice, and gold has a very hard time moving through compacted material. Just something too think about. Thanks for your video.
My my my ... I've got some material to rerun! Good work man!
Need to try a setup like that for the gold in my area. Only thing I've found that works on it is to collect by panning and smelting the cons. Nice job dude!!!!
Let me know how it goes. Regards Aussie
I love this it’s just like you topping the pan pretty much the same but a faster way top job 💪
It is ...just on a larger scale. Cheers. Regards Aussie
How fine is that gold? My guess is about 300 mesh. I don't use the 'swirlie' reveal on this size gold. If you just start tapping the blondes will travel to the near side of the pan leaving the fine gold behind. I think you will find it easier. Thanks for the idea about the concrete vibrator, it should work well for a vibrating screen also.
Superfine. I understand the tapping only, but I love to see the slow reveal using the twirl...can't resist it. Regards Aussie
@@AussieBlokeProspector Yeah, but it tends to wash away the super fine stuff. Since that is all I deal with, I don't keep going back and forth. When I run into some 50 mesh plus, I can lose it without seeing it since it behaves differently.
Great video mate 👌, if you are ever down in Gippsland look me up, I've got some tools that would help you with your flour gold catching expedition, also have a wave table which is the absolute best for the -100 mesh 🤙just a suggestion which you might like try is, the mount for the vibration motor laying over slightly towards the up stream side of your sluice which should make it act like tapping the top of your pan walking the gold up behind the riffles instead of just straight to the bottom
I will do... next time I'm down that way...and great suggestion.. I will try it. Regards Aussie
Thinking out side the box..
Well done Mate..
Hope you and your family are doing well .
Cheers Famo59 👍🍻🤓⛏
Thanks Tony. We are doing well... hope you and yours are doing the same. Regards John
Have you tested the bottom of the tailings bucket? Looks like the whole tub vibrates too- settling any ultrafines to the bottom.
I was going to say the same thing!
Fair point you raise.... but yes, through all the testing phases, I did... I just didn't show all that considering how long the vid is...but I probably should have mentioned that. The bottom of the bucket results were no different from the top. Regards Aussie
Love that you don’t make people (at least me🤷🏻♂️)feel they’re being petty about the lil amounts that will actually be a good amount in the end .
I always wonder if gravel pit companies even consider collecting gold ?🤷🏻♂️
I’m curious if water temperature helps or if warm water with cold materials or other way around 🤷🏻♂️
Wow Awesome Work!!! Thanx4posting!!! Cheers from Idaho!
Glad you enjoyed it mate. Thanks. Regards Aussie
Fantastic innovation mate ! Looks like it does a nice job trapping those fines. Keep up the good work. Cheers !!
Cheers mate. Regards Aussie
That is too cool, hope you find a bunch! Be safe be blessed.
Thank you so much man
I have been looking for a good way to get flour
You just made me an extra 15 plus grams per day easily
Oh, P.S. Sir, I subscribed to your channel and liked the video for you. Keep the Gold videos coming. Liking them alot!!! Someday, I would love to goldmine in Australia. It's so full of the stuff and New Zealand too. Take-Care....Mike.
Great to see you back mate! What an awesome build. 👍👍
Good to be back mate. Regards John
Very Nice Brother I'm gonna have to go one more step with this Thanks 😎👍💯
Cheers mate. Go for it... I'd like to hear how that goes. Regards Aussie
Great video and the comments outstanding. Seems you've collected a pretty savy group. Keep np the good work.
Just a thought: a non-motorised modification to a river sluice could be possible for use on-site, in the stream flow.
Most of the flow energy of the stream's water could be diverted from the sluice channel and converted to the required direction, frequency and magnitude. It'd likely be a linear function of the water volume and flow, and non-mechanical (perhaps using memory-material) as well to comply with some states' fossicking regulations.
There's possibly already a device like this being used in other industries such agriculture that can be adapted. Or, someone may have already invented such a device for their sluice.
Perhaps a good application of redirected water. Having said that, the subject here is about making a simple vibration bed, which should not be used in the bush, but at home as part of a Gold recovery arsenal. Thanks or the input. Regards Aussie
Great vid mate. Something to do on a rainy day. Looks like its worth saving tailings
It sure is. Cheers. Regards Aussie
good stuff by the way i use vibration for cleaning up gold plated components i in the restoration of antique harps made from a 12 volt car heater fan with an offset piece of metal and a container for the bits with water and cutting compound just a suggestion to save dragging a 200 kilometre extension cord from home or worse still a generator lol cheers from Tasmania
Cheers. Thanks for the info. Regards Aussie
spent the day on a river full of super fine gold captured in clay thanks for the tip am working on youre great idea
Just getting better and better. Great stuff John :-)
Cheers Richo. Regards John
That is some seriously fine gold😍 Nice work👍🏻⛏🏴
Isn't it just. Cheers mate. Regards Aussie
@@AussieBlokeProspector Just subscribed👍🏻
Very Nice the Key is to get all the small gold and the gold gods says you are a master on dust gold
Wow an experiment we worth trying,
You probably paid for the vibrator with what you got in gold,
Nice job.
Score you did it Bravo Mate.
I already do this but I use a twelve volt vibrater with a variable speed controller!
For me your vibrator is too fast and your result will be 100% if you slow the vibration down!
Cheers Rob!
I'm pretty sure my results were pretty close to if not at 99.99%. Not possible with this fixed speed unit, but I'll look into it. Regards Aussie
You can control 240 volt motor buy adjusting the 50hz frequency but a motor control. Look on concrete vibrator and you can see you can buy a speed controller
IF its not too much to ask please help me disect this so I can learn intricate details of what I think I missed by answering the following ? one at a time. Sorry. Just trying to learn more, and this is one awesome video. Thank you already for all youve done for all of us in this learn/share opportunity. Kyle Pa-USA
When you first ran the original material through the sluice at the original setpoints, is the material in the buckets at the start of this video all of the tailings from that original run? what was the original batch weight + recovery = kg?
My summary of this: You took your orginal tailings, and recrushed them to classify smaller. Then modified the sluice to the 11:1 with vibration and reduced flow and then re ran the cons to concentrate further once you were satisfied that the tailings no longer held any fines (if i am understanding correctly).
After all modifications, now knowing what you know....would you suggest that next time you start off by crushing 1st to the 100mesh for consistincy purposes, and then sluice at the modified settings, and finainlly then sluice the cons 1x tand then blue bowl the total cons?
Happy to answer mate...
The original run was approx 150 kg for 45 grams which is equivalent to around 9.5 oz....and yep....re-crushed and re-ran. If I was chasing maximum recovery for smelting, then yes I could fast track the process by crushing finer straight off...definitely. Regards Aussie
Gold dust is floating on the surface too amazing set up
I wonder if a low frequency oscillator could produce a similar effect?...just a random thought. Thanks for all the great vids too. Best of luck out there 👍🏼👍🏼
It may well. This model was a fixed speed, but I can definitely see the benefit of a variable speed adjuster as there would most likely be an optimum frequency. Thanks for the input. Regards Aussie
Aussie Bloke Prospector Ernst Chladni (and his plate experiments), a German physicist is your man for optimum frequency’s. That’s fully ‘geeking out’ but there may be something useful to be gained. Thanks again for your videos, much appreciated. Champion!!
Very nice. Recovered what, about $400 worth that would have been lost? Brilliant. It's still measured in troy ounces I'm guessing? It's been a long while since my prospecting days. I'd love to get back up the Palmer River again.
over 7 grams all up...so definitely worth the effort. Yep..Troy ounces. Regards Aussie
Excellent video and a great modification!
Thank you very much mate. Regards Aussie
I classify all through 50 mesh and run through goldcube at shallow angle and pretty much captured everything but this is cool
Great job man, I had thought about something similar to this a few years ago but I haven’t done it yet.
Thanks mate. Never too late to give it a crack. All the best. Regards Aussie
good stuff there is some in NSW as well
Fantastic video mate. Made me rethink a few of my processes
Cheers Ben...yep it get's the old Cogs going that's for sure. Regards John
That is a huge payback for a simple mod. I was just thinking about doing this myself the other day and this morning your video was suggested. Oddly a cement vibrator also came up on an ad this morning as well. Hmm, must be meant to be.
Thanks for this. I have the problem of the same gold.