Thank you - finally some confirmation that fine gold dust can be recovered without creating an environmental disaster. And that small time gold hunters can successfully process this stuff.
I really enjoyed it. I might just try that on the ore I got from you on eBay. That telluride looks to have gold locked up in it. As always, I love your videos about refining! Thanks for sharing.
The process of combining these wonderful pieces of equipment is a great demonstration of how things should work, so thanks for putting it all together. There are some "bottle necks" that weren't discussed such as one hammer mill can't handle the load rate that the rock crusher is producing, a second (finer) rock crusher would put less wear on the hammer mill, one shaker table can't handle the load rate of ore that the hammer mill is producing, another belt is needed to get the auger waste away from the work area and every step needs regular adjustments (labor) as the process continues. Hammer mills are a high maintenance item. When one piece of equipment needs attention, the entire process is brought to a halt. Having "back-up" equipment available is expensive and when one piece of equipment fails and stops the process, labor costs continue, just the same. Most people probably think this is a "safe" process, but exposed machinery has its risks as well as dust from crushing and lead fumes from the furnace. I certainly prefer this process over cyanide or mercury, and, Jason, you did a great job putting it all together for us. Thanks!
I've never done any work with gold at all, but I've worked in a variety of factories. I would definitely prefer this method, as compared to arsenic or mercury processing. Overall, I think that it is a lot safer, in addition to reducing the amount of required paperwork, that is needed. Working with dangerous chemicals requires Hazmat paperwork.
@@tinamathews3379 Using lead as a collector metal in the electric furnace requires the door be left open to permit oxygen to enter. The lead is then encouraged to oxidize and only then will it soak into the very expensive ceramic cup specially made with the addition of calcium phosphate. This cup can only be used once since the phosphate becomes saturated with lead oxide and some lead is also vaporized so you should not be breathing when near the open furnace door. I, too, agree this is about as good as improvements currently exist, but it's a bottleneck in the process, meaning this is a place where the process is slowed down. The shaker table is the first bottleneck. Many very smart people (Jason included) are working on improvements so there is hope. The discarded ceramic cup which is now saturated with lead oxide is not really an environmental hazard since it doesn't contain much and will release its lead into the surrounding landfill at the rate of about a few inches every hundred years.
Yes thank you for the insight. You teach me things I need to learn that I can't learn from anyone that know in person. I have no peers and my knowledge on these subjects are self initiated so I can't thank you enough for all the great experience that you bring to the table when making these vids. Good job. Thanks again.
I really enjoy all of your videos. You're serious but not boring and very knowledgeable and easy to understand. Your videos are very well put together. Thank you for all your knowledge.
New to this whole thing, collecting gold bearing rocks atm while fishing, working on a DIY pan for myself so i can pan the sands. Figure since I use live bait, i got plenty of time between fish to find some gold with my kids 😁
You remind me of the younger me. I'm 60 now and started out as an independent gold miner 40 years ago in Nevada. Not many people can claim that. Your practical approach is just how I learned also. Trial and error. I even built and sold my own shaker tables for a while. You need to look into water flocculants to clean your tail water instantly for re use. That and next time you deal with mercury tails or contamination please don't run them through your hammer mill first. Even running in water you're aerosoling the metal Merc small enough to be breathed. There are much better ways to recover the liquid quick and any lost gold. Always keep in your mind when dealing with lost Merc that without a doubt there will always be abundant amounts methyl Mercury. It's the killer, it's what gets into the fish tissue and then climbs the foot chain. Maybe the one video I watched where you watched Mercury recovery is the only one you deal with mercury at all. I have been dealing with lost Mercury and lost sulfides and thier safe recovery since 1979. Comstock area.
At gold prices today, that 21g is worth $1,374. I see how it took about 2 hours to process, but how about how much time it took to mine it, pack it up, and transport it? I love these videos btw!
He says at one point they ran a one ton capacity Super Sack, and this is a one ton per hour system. So an hour to get the cons, probably 1-2 hours to mine it and fill the Sack, less time if it was from an old tailings pile.
I would like a "table top" size rig.... something to go in the small corner of my back yard. ...Shovel fulls...not tons. Cool video..very informative about utilizing "time", the smart way.
Dang this is mind blowing!! You are getting super small pieces and melting them. I couldn't even see the gold specs. I sluice in a creek by my house and have to get much larger pieces to keep. Wish I understood better what you are doing. I imagine I am throwing a lot of real fine gold back into the creek. Cool video!!
love watching your videos. I am looking hard at my property hoping to have enough gold to justify a set up like you have. Seeing that gold button on the scale would definitely become addicting
Great video with good information. I’ve brought a bucket of sand from a river in Peru and it’s filled with golf lakes. It has taken me forever to separate the gold from a cup worth of sand and I still don’t have pure gold in it. I could send you a video of how much there is on the sand and maybe you can help me with some advise.
lead as a collector lowers the melting point of gold, that is, lead melts faster and envelops the gold inside the lead; gold melts after lead disappears during cupellation свинец как коллектор понижает температуру плавления золото, то есть свинец быстрее расплавится и обволакивает золото внутри свинца золото расплавиться после свинец при купелиловании улетучивается
Have you ever done a comparison of the gold mined in the different parts of the US? From what I've read the amount of gold along the western part is large compared to north Georgia. Yet the Georgia gold is more pure, have heard it's along 22 k.
Wish I could afford this. I found a freshly uncovered rich quartz vein about 10 feet deep in a "young" creek. High mineralization,have gotten about a half gram and I'm only half a foot deep. Hitting it with a pickaxe is easy,grinding it to powder has been the rough part.
Hi Jason! Tell me please? In the video, you (7.07 minutes) without cleaning the concentrate, you melt it with lead, small sand particles burn and the gold turns out clean?
As everything melts, other metals float to the top of the gold and mix with the air, forming oxides which are absorbed by the cupelle. The lead helps displace the base metals from their oxides, and is also absorbed by the cupelle. Any gold or silver (or palladium, or any other "noble" (precious) metals do not oxidize, so are not absorbed. They remain after all the oxidation and absorption are done, as a bead of precious metals.
@@xenaguy01 How long should this process take and at what temperatures? I recently bought an electric Tabletop furnace and would like to try this technique.
I often wonder about guys being so focussed on increasing their recovery rates versus processing more material in the meantime. I get it about the short season and running at the max tons through the plant possible. Hopefully you are getting more gold overall by concentrating on production rates versus recovery rates. To a reasonable level of course.
Hi, what is the purpose of the auger? And what are the holes on the auger blades for? I understand that the auger is moving the material up the screw but what is the purpose with regards to material classification? Thanks.
I found a flood table w a low spot! I scraped all the black sand ripe w gold buy its super, super fine and impossible to even pan! It's acts really weird in water I live on the upper left coast of Oregon in a dead spot no gold but ultra fine but this basin caught an amount to b worth at least saving I'd say a couple ounces worth I need help
Your tailings from the #1 and #2 look a little like silver sulfides. You are catching free mill gold? What about the sulfides? is there any value there? Love your work Jason.
What about having an ultrasonic centrifuge? The idea is that the centripical force and the vibration will allow the gold to migrate to the bottom of the container.
Since his company makes and sells shaker tables, I assume he thinks they are best. From watching videos, I believe centrifuges can process more material faster, but with a higher rate of loss. I believe shaker tables grant higher, but slower rates of recovery.
If you were to use an aluminum oxide crucible and straight NaOH or KOH as the flux, would it be possible for the gold to simple melt out as a bead? Gradual heating required, but I have heated NaOH before in such a vessel above melting point of Au.
How is the gold that is on the table collected? I always see the two buckets of concentrates, but what happens to the line of gold on the shaker table.
Watch some of his other videos. The gold line slowly makes its way to the bottom corner of the table where it is collected in a bucket. That's the #1 cons. The #2 and #3 are also collected and the #3 is usually rerun through the system. After all the material has been run, the table is brushed with a stiff brush to collect all the remaining gold and cons from the table. This is normally high in gold and heavies, so is added to the #1.
I have millions of mt of quartz silica sand discovered the gold content by accident. I stuffed kitchen sink spray nozzle in the sand to wash it and discovered how yellow the water got and sand got whiter and the deeper I went into the sand the more concentrated the gold was. So what you suggest for best way to wash it. I've waisted so much it make one sick if you knew
Can you grind old computor scap??? Ive got alot of pins cpu,s etc around 50 plus tore down been using meradic acid n bleach n have around 30 pds of fiters Theres some junk plastic in some But mustly flakes Plus palitieum chips Plus around 20pbs stuff not yet tore down need pixs i have them id say 7pbs of pins 2pbs palideium chips 5pbs long bars still havent pulled the pins Real old cpu hard drive motors n some brown disks A bunch are platneum coated Around 4pds alot of ram Not yet removed the fingers yet Alot is old school pc stuff These disk are big as my hand Looking for someone to refine it
Thank you - finally some confirmation that fine gold dust can be recovered without creating an environmental disaster. And that small time gold hunters can successfully process this stuff.
True story
I really enjoyed it. I might just try that on the ore I got from you on eBay. That telluride looks to have gold locked up in it. As always, I love your videos about refining! Thanks for sharing.
13:00 So, 96.4% of your recovered gold went into the #1 hole, and 3.6% went into the #2 hole. That's damn good recovery from #1.
Thankyou Jason , for you good helpfull information on recovering and smelting super fine small gold .
The process of combining these wonderful pieces of equipment is a great demonstration of how things should work, so thanks for putting it all together. There are some "bottle necks" that weren't discussed such as one hammer mill can't handle the load rate that the rock crusher is producing, a second (finer) rock crusher would put less wear on the hammer mill, one shaker table can't handle the load rate of ore that the hammer mill is producing, another belt is needed to get the auger waste away from the work area and every step needs regular adjustments (labor) as the process continues. Hammer mills are a high maintenance item. When one piece of equipment needs attention, the entire process is brought to a halt. Having "back-up" equipment available is expensive and when one piece of equipment fails and stops the process, labor costs continue, just the same. Most people probably think this is a "safe" process, but exposed machinery has its risks as well as dust from crushing and lead fumes from the furnace. I certainly prefer this process over cyanide or mercury, and, Jason, you did a great job putting it all together for us. Thanks!
I've never done any work with gold at all, but I've worked in a variety of factories. I would definitely prefer this method, as compared to arsenic or mercury processing.
Overall, I think that it is a lot safer, in addition to reducing the amount of required paperwork, that is needed.
Working with dangerous chemicals requires Hazmat paperwork.
@@tinamathews3379 Using lead as a collector metal in the electric furnace requires the door be left open to permit oxygen to enter. The lead is then encouraged to oxidize and only then will it soak into the very expensive ceramic cup specially made with the addition of calcium phosphate. This cup can only be used once since the phosphate becomes saturated with lead oxide and some lead is also vaporized so you should not be breathing when near the open furnace door. I, too, agree this is about as good as improvements currently exist, but it's a bottleneck in the process, meaning this is a place where the process is slowed down. The shaker table is the first bottleneck. Many very smart people (Jason included) are working on improvements so there is hope. The discarded ceramic cup which is now saturated with lead oxide is not really an environmental hazard since it doesn't contain much and will release its lead into the surrounding landfill at the rate of about a few inches every hundred years.
@@richardrobertson1331 quite interesting. Now I know. Thanks for the information. :)
Yes thank you for the insight. You teach me things I need to learn that I can't learn from anyone that know in person. I have no peers and my knowledge on these subjects are self initiated so I can't thank you enough for all the great experience that you bring to the table when making these vids. Good job. Thanks again.
I really enjoy all of your videos. You're serious but not boring and very knowledgeable and easy to understand. Your videos are very well put together. Thank you for all your knowledge.
I'm about to start processing some gold for a chemistry video I am working on and your videos have really helped me out. Thanks for posting them man.
Nice! Great Video! The shorter videos are easier to watch due to managing time, so Thank You!
You got it figured out, that's for sure.
I liked the video! That borax thing at the end was a trip!
Very practical approach.. Budget design of equipment for small scale miner. Thank you for the info.
Best educational channel on UA-cam.
I enjoy watching all the different methods you use. I’ve never done any refining like this but man that looks fun.
Still one of my favorite videos. Thank you!!
Now that's impressive. I wish I had that setup. Geesh. There wouldn't be a rock around town that's for sure.
New to this whole thing, collecting gold bearing rocks atm while fishing, working on a DIY pan for myself so i can pan the sands.
Figure since I use live bait, i got plenty of time between fish to find some gold with my kids 😁
So c'mon let's go. Love watching you and Jeff collaborating. You sneaky devils lol
You remind me of the younger me. I'm 60 now and started out as an independent gold miner 40 years ago in Nevada. Not many people can claim that.
Your practical approach is just how I learned also. Trial and error.
I even built and sold my own shaker tables for a while.
You need to look into water flocculants to clean your tail water instantly for re use.
That and next time you deal with mercury tails or contamination please don't run them through your hammer mill first. Even running in water you're aerosoling the metal Merc small enough to be breathed. There are much better ways to recover the liquid quick and any lost gold. Always keep in your mind when dealing with lost Merc that without a doubt there will always be abundant amounts methyl Mercury. It's the killer, it's what gets into the fish tissue and then climbs the foot chain. Maybe the one video I watched where you watched Mercury recovery is the only one you deal with mercury at all. I have been dealing with lost Mercury and lost sulfides and thier safe recovery since 1979. Comstock area.
شما کار بلد هستید من ایران هستم در رودخونه طلا هست ولی به کمک فکری نیاز دارم و شما تجربه خوبی دارید امیدوارم منم بتوانم با مشاور شما
Ya what do you need to know
NICE WORK JASON.
Definitely an efficient way to go, really enjoy these videos 👍
Nicely explained , good job done thanks for sharing knowledge.
Jason fabulous video!! Adding the borax was very cool too. Cupel is #1 process, I like your cover cupel to keep splatter in check! Way to ROCK!
At gold prices today, that 21g is worth $1,374. I see how it took about 2 hours to process, but how about how much time it took to mine it, pack it up, and transport it? I love these videos btw!
He says at one point they ran a one ton capacity Super Sack, and this is a one ton per hour system. So an hour to get the cons, probably 1-2 hours to mine it and fill the Sack, less time if it was from an old tailings pile.
Thank you for showing your videos
That is so cool.. love it.. u should sell your end tailings into a paydirt. That'd be awesome..😉😋
Got it work out but is there gold in your black sand.would a fine shaker table get it down to a cleaner gold?
I would like a "table top" size rig.... something to go in the small corner of my back yard. ...Shovel fulls...not tons. Cool video..very informative about utilizing "time", the smart way.
Thanks Jason, very informative. Hope to visit your operation one day, might need some assistance for an upcoming project.
I wish I could adord the set up. The small miner will definitely work a long time to get this set up
Dang this is mind blowing!!
You are getting super small pieces and melting them. I couldn't even see the gold specs. I sluice in a creek by my house and have to get much larger pieces to keep. Wish I understood better what you are doing. I imagine I am throwing a lot of real fine gold back into the creek.
Cool video!!
❤ what is the name of the liquid you are using to clean gold after putting at the clothe, God bless you, this is Zambia.
Over $1200/T..... Extremely good stuff. Totally agree with your production strategy.
love watching your videos. I am looking hard at my property hoping to have enough gold to justify a set up like you have. Seeing that gold button on the scale would definitely become addicting
What mesh should size is recommended for very very fine quartz gold?? Thanks
Thanks Jason very informative
Don't know how I missed this one just the same . Nice work 👍
What is the proper name of that water table and where can I buy on
Great video with good information. I’ve brought a bucket of sand from a river in Peru and it’s filled with golf lakes. It has taken me forever to separate the gold from a cup worth of sand and I still don’t have pure gold in it. I could send you a video of how much there is on the sand and maybe you can help me with some advise.
Nice what kt do you think that flashed out at and did you capella it AGAIN before you took it out of air
Is lead disinfected or is lead used
Why the lead? Does it reduce melting temp?
Question, is it possible with your concentrates to just add nitric acid until the base metals are gone, then use aqua regia to recover the gold?
can you use gold as the collector metal and skip the cupell ?
Man I just found a new spot that is load with gold. All sizes but the real tiny stuff is a lot. What do you do about the tiny gold in the black sand?
Just an FYI. As Cody from Cody's lab found out those electric furnaces need oxygen and if you burn carbon in there it can destroy the elements.
Which is why he keeps the door open
How much cost a rig like the one are you using in this video?
How much lead did you use in your cupel as a ratio to your gold?
i enjoy your videos very educational..U R A mad scientist.
Great business strategy, and well explained.
Didn't expect that outcome. Not bad at all
Interesting journey
Precious 🌹
why add the lead? wouldn't the gold be left by itself once the paper burnt off?
Look up Cupellation, it's a way of removing base metals from gold & silver. The lead is part of the process.
lead as a collector lowers the melting point of gold, that is, lead melts faster and envelops the gold inside the lead; gold melts after lead disappears during cupellation
свинец как коллектор понижает температуру плавления золото, то есть свинец быстрее расплавится и обволакивает золото внутри свинца золото расплавиться после свинец при купелиловании улетучивается
Can you give me a link to the jaw crusher and the other machine that crushes the rocks?
Good advice on the refining question.
Awesome! I bought a hat!
I think I saw I giant nugget on the conveyor 😁 awesome video. 👍
Great video
What happened to lead ? Did it burn off leaveing just gold ?
How much tons soil after 21 grams gold?
Hi Jason,
Thanks for the great videos! How do you deal with the spent cupelles? Do you have to take them to a hazardous waste facility?
Hi Jason, you might want to update your website in the video description!
This was a good video... i had to save it to watch again later....
What do you do with the lead?m
Great video, need finance to purchase one of these equipments
Awesome video! You're always very creative!
Love your videos Jason. I’ve learned a ton. Keep up the good work. Thanks a million.
where are you sourcing the coupelle's? Are silica crucible's the same thing?
Have you ever done a comparison of the gold mined in the different parts of the US? From what I've read the amount of gold along the western part is large compared to north Georgia. Yet the Georgia gold is more pure, have heard it's along 22 k.
All good points.
WOW HAVE SOME GOLD ON THE TABLE GEEZ LUIZ MAN!ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO BROTHER
Thanks, it's quite inspiring.
You need a PlacerTools refining table instead of a pan. It does well with fine powder gold.
WOW that's what I think fam wow. GOLD SQUAD OUT!!!
Good job jason..
Wish I could afford this. I found a freshly uncovered rich quartz vein about 10 feet deep in a "young" creek. High mineralization,have gotten about a half gram and I'm only half a foot deep. Hitting it with a pickaxe is easy,grinding it to powder has been the rough part.
Excellent. Thanks, Jason.
Wise words. Coming for that table.....
Nice work , and good job..
Hallo Jason .....i am Riyanto from.indonesia ... Like your proses gold ... Efisien dan praktis .... How much 1 set your mesin produksi
Total sekitar 1M an. Rupiah.
Very nice setup thanks
Loved the video.
Great video. Really helpful. Succes
Hi Jason! Tell me please? In the video, you (7.07 minutes) without cleaning the concentrate, you melt it with lead, small sand particles burn and the gold turns out clean?
As everything melts, other metals float to the top of the gold and mix with the air, forming oxides which are absorbed by the cupelle. The lead helps displace the base metals from their oxides, and is also absorbed by the cupelle. Any gold or silver (or palladium, or any other "noble" (precious) metals do not oxidize, so are not absorbed. They remain after all the oxidation and absorption are done, as a bead of precious metals.
@@xenaguy01 How long should this process take and at what temperatures? I recently bought an electric Tabletop furnace and would like to try this technique.
@@chrismontano390 My knowledge is mostly from Jason's channel. Watch his videos and learn like I did. He has several where he cupels at the end.
I often wonder about guys being so focussed on increasing their recovery rates versus processing more material in the meantime.
I get it about the short season and running at the max tons through the plant possible.
Hopefully you are getting more gold overall by concentrating on production rates versus recovery rates. To a reasonable level of course.
I like your videos as much as Ian's
Hi, what is the purpose of the auger? And what are the holes on the auger blades for? I understand that the auger is moving the material up the screw but what is the purpose with regards to material classification? Thanks.
The auger collects waste solids, which dry out as they climb. The holes are for water to escape.
@@xenaguy01 cool, save water and weight of the waste. Thanks for the explanation.
did the borax go back in the furnace? And remelt with gold?
Yes. It dissolved the layer of slag, and was cupelled with it into the dish.
I found a flood table w a low spot! I scraped all the black sand ripe w gold buy its super, super fine and impossible to even pan! It's acts really weird in water I live on the upper left coast of Oregon in a dead spot no gold but ultra fine but this basin caught an amount to b worth at least saving I'd say a couple ounces worth I need help
Nice video
great video ty
Did u make those runs yourself or buy them?
2 1/2 hours is good time
Thank you for another great video.
Your tailings from the #1 and #2 look a little like silver sulfides. You are catching free mill gold? What about the sulfides? is there any value there? Love your work Jason.
What about having an ultrasonic centrifuge? The idea is that the centripical force and the vibration will allow the gold to migrate to the bottom of the container.
What's better Centrifugal force ( centrifuge ) or a shaking Table?
Since his company makes and sells shaker tables, I assume he thinks they are best.
From watching videos, I believe centrifuges can process more material faster, but with a higher rate of loss. I believe shaker tables grant higher, but slower rates of recovery.
If you were to use an aluminum oxide crucible and straight NaOH or KOH as the flux, would it be possible for the gold to simple melt out as a bead? Gradual heating required, but I have heated NaOH before in such a vessel above melting point of Au.
How is the gold that is on the table collected? I always see the two buckets of concentrates, but what happens to the line of gold on the shaker table.
Watch some of his other videos. The gold line slowly makes its way to the bottom corner of the table where it is collected in a bucket. That's the #1 cons. The #2 and #3 are also collected and the #3 is usually rerun through the system. After all the material has been run, the table is brushed with a stiff brush to collect all the remaining gold and cons from the table. This is normally high in gold and heavies, so is added to the #1.
@@xenaguy01 thanks for the explanation. Do you own and operate this table?
@@MP57719
_"Do you own and operate this table?"_
No and no. I have watched many of Jason's videos where he explains it's operation.
@@xenaguy01 thank you for getting back to me
I have millions of mt of quartz silica sand discovered the gold content by accident.
I stuffed kitchen sink spray nozzle in the sand to wash it and discovered how yellow the water got and sand got whiter and the deeper I went into the sand the more concentrated the gold was.
So what you suggest for best way to wash it. I've waisted so much it make one sick if you knew
Way faster and easier than getting gold from electronics!
Can you grind old computor scap???
Ive got alot of pins cpu,s etc around 50 plus tore down been using meradic acid n bleach n have around 30 pds of fiters
Theres some junk plastic in some
But mustly flakes
Plus palitieum chips
Plus around 20pbs stuff not yet tore down need pixs i have them id say 7pbs of pins
2pbs palideium chips
5pbs long bars still havent pulled the pins
Real old cpu hard drive motors n some brown disks
A bunch are platneum coated
Around 4pds alot of ram
Not yet removed the fingers yet
Alot is old school pc stuff
These disk are big as my hand
Looking for someone to refine it