nowadays in bigger cities you can be a college educated young professional and feel like you’re on the brink of living like the “bottom out of sight” class.
I feel like now in modern times college educated people aren’t seen as a separate class. They are just seen as everyone else since anyone can get a college degree
Socioeconomic mobility in USA has been sharply declining since 1980. Richard G. Wilkinson: "If Americans want to live the American dream, they should go to Denmark."
Once I was lost in Eton Square. It was raining... pouring....I was trying to find Victoria Station. I saw a man walking twords me in the opposite direction. He had on a dark suit, black bowler hat, carrying a briefcase and umbrella. I figured he knew where he was going and the area so I approached him as he was passing me. I asked him standing there, in front of him, soaking wet, obviously lost, "excuse me, do you know the way to Victoria Station" he said "yes", and kept on walking. I was 20 years young, and on vacation in London, from LA, California......I learned something that day.
To be fair mate, that’s pretty standard in London 😂 I’m working class from the north of England and have had interactions like that in London with many different ‘classes’. London can be a very impersonal city at times
@@DomiD666 I did feel humility, but I got it.....after that I asked....the next person.... "Could you please tell me the way to Victoria station".... And ended up in London for 20 years!
Meritocracy leads to aristodracy. The children of 'self-mmade" rich are sent to the best schools for networking into power (Ivy leahue). They enter the same careers/industries where their parents have power and connections. Over time the same people - a small group - come to control all wealth, property and industries. Society becomes an inheritance social system.
@@jonpaulcox4954And 2-3 generations down the road they are broke again, because of «economic illiteracy», and lack of cultural and social capital drags them back down. Class is in reality about « downloaded» rutines, habits, ways of consumption and socialising. Not wealth alone. If the wealth is not secured with compund interest growt it will soon be gone
@@jonpaulcox4954 lie. Bill Gates? Parents- rich. Elon Musk? Father owned a diamond mine. 99,9% of all rich people including "self made" ones have rich parents or powerful and rich parents.
I liked Winter's Bone it reminds me of my childhood. That's been my social class for 44 years. My grandpa was a successful radiologist who had nine kids. My mom was a college dropout who was unemployed after I turned five.
I remember reading Paul Fussell's treatise on the American class structure and absolutely crying with laughter at his biting analysis of the country's social pecking order!
It would be interesting to also see origins of family power and wealth…..war, weapons, agriculture, production of manufactured goods, media, natural resources, financial systems.
So Spot On…a brilliant and peppy portrait that affords access to the enduring commodity and complexity that is the knowledge of modern civilization . I could not ignore placing your template atop such dynasties like the Sackler family and some of the early Transportation and Chemical /Science families here in America like Dow, Johnson & Johnson, Colgate, and Corning as well as those at the top tiers of Rail and Air both commercial and public. Would to hear the conversation broadened to include the vital importance of the sectors of Advance Legions who were essentially slaves. Included would be the Rail workers and the Southern crop workers, primarily tobacco and alcohol associated. Thank you for the excellent contribution you are making.
I met a lesser Kennedy cousin, a genXer. In hindsight sight he no doubt stemmed from RFK's lineage. That was a weird night at the bar. He sort of took over the corner of the bar and "enlightened" us little people with conspiracy theories, networked for an upcoming music event for stage production, and gave us allusions to the burden of bleeding wealth and a degrading family name. It's gotta suck to be at that level when other people died and fell from grace for you, and then you're just a weird nobody trying to make something out of what little is left.
In USA, skilled working class are homeowners and quite prosperous, more so if they become successful entrepreneurs in their fields as sub-contractors or contractors.
I was born and raised in a small city in northern Minnesota. Our family was middle class, as almost all citizens were. It was interesting to see people who had just a bit more than others try and become social elites. I have seen this played out over and over again in my working career in Minneapolis. People who had managerial jobs lorded it over others. One time I went up to one snotty woman and asked her if her parents were farmers as I knew she was from a small city in western Minnesota. She almost sheepishly admitted they were. I told her I miss people like that- honest and hard working. She became much nicer as I had 'outed' her. At my age I just realize that it is human nature to try and be above other people in the hopes of not being one who dies.
Jackie Chan, Olivia Newton-John, and Ian Anderson are all in the same category -- English knights. How about doing an episode on that category that embraces everyone of their ilk. Olivia is of an MI-5 or 6 family, confirming the relationship between espionage/subterfuge/destabilization and entertainment. For instance, Eddie Albert, Yoko Ono, Kate Middleton, and Harry Houdini were all espionage agents.
👏👏👏👏👏👏Frightully interesting and jolly nice English without an accent !😉 When I was young I looked after my uncle's ponies at Cowdray Park Polo Club, and everybody there spoke just like you !😀 Felicitaciones y muchos saludos, Mariano Scotti Olivos, Buenos Aires, Argentina 🇦🇷🇬🇧🇦🇷🇬🇧🇦🇷🇬🇧
My aunt used to run the parties for the intellectual, culturtal and media elite of New York City. David Rockefeller tried to get her to r8n his parties. She said no. He was persistent. SHe finally got blunt with him, telling him "David, your friends are boring. I only do parties for interesting people where i can be part of the conversations."
When a legal case was threatening to supply the public with a cheap alternative to cancer, called "vitamin B17", Olivia recorded a song, "Please, Mr., please, don't play B17". That is one of the ways wherein the subterfuge has been operated. That would have costed the American Cancer Society millions, maybe billions, in donations. The society has thriven by blocking any curings to cancer and rewarding vain and resoource-wasting "insiders" with researching grants.
something like a tradesman electrician or HVAC guy in a major economic area of America are probably closer to "free range" Middle class and even upper middle class (if they run their own business) in the current social climate. They are probably better off then the standard middle class considering knowledge based education is useless now since we have the internet and soon to be AI heavy economy
Joe Kennedy was boss of the first five moguls in hollywood. He visited the pope once each month to get instruction, until the grand orient/zevite takeover of vatican in conclaves of '58 and '63.
No matter how many changes there are in society, a social class pecking order will always be created. From social class system of King's and Queens, to day's class system of the rich and powerful, its all the same. No matter how many wars are fought, no matter how much the lower classes struggles or how much money the higher classes spend a social class system of pecking order will always remain. That's just human nature.
I lived on a sidestreet in a small 1920's bungalow surrounded by much larger homes and older friendly neighbors. As they died, real estate boomed from an influx from other states and countries. The new neighbors wouldn't speak when passed while taking a walk. Literally put nose in the air and stonewalled. I still don't get it.
Thatt's about four and a half million for each member of DuPont. My kinswoman Cora Belle True wedded into that family, several generations before my birth, so I am blood kin to them, though inot in favor of pollution and contamination of food as they have been.
To be honest though that’s a good start. America has a royal family. The Kardashians. But imagine if Americas royals were still the Vanderbilt’s ?! That would be a nightmare. We want to worship the Kardashians for some reason. But imagine if in 2120 we are expected to keep worshipping their lineage. By 2100 the Kardashians will no longer be a royal family and they will have lost most of their money like the Vanderbilt’s. Someone else will be wealthy and famous by then
My grandfather was spawn predominately of Anglo-Norman landlo'wards of every known surname, though there were some captives from Battle of Dunbar who were indentured to American farmers, and one family of clothiers who harbored Queen Mary on her first night of exile. We gave, to her, a dress. Inside sources suggest that her execution was fraudulently reported, we assume it was a deal -- she would keep quiet and not be slain. We were on Jersey, and were first cousins to Baldwin, first king of Jerusalem. We were the sister to the owner and namer of New Jersey, who was also Chancellor of the Exchequer of the navy of Charles 2, who stayed in our house on Jersey early in his exile.
Fascinatingly ironic. While the well-heeled patrons pay the ultimate premium price for court-side floor seats, the cheap seats in the high-rafftered nose bleed section of the stadium are reserved for the peasants. The rigid dichotomy between wealth and poverty is truly humanly idiotic.
Am I the only who thought of what was said in Caddy Shack. “The world needs ditch diggers too”. I can see the upper class saying this with a straight face.
You try to tell people this s*** about both political parties but as soon as you try to disenchant them about their political party very selective at that point... in the main reason why people are so hopeless Betty even hold on to the illusion at their political party is it better than the other is better than nothing to them😂
At this point I don’t think you can say the top out of sight are necessarily out of sight. We really gonna say the Astors and the Vanderbilts were secluded and out of sight? Idk I think some of these people are the most well known. Like is Bill Gates in the class with the Kennedys? But I kinda see where they are going.
I feel that politics nowadays is mainly operating on these pigionhole - thinking of stereotypes 😢. Humans could be and are much more than members their "classes", who is benefitting from this way of thinking in pigionholes? Answer?
Upper proletariat. Truckers make good money and are skilled labor, but they’re blue collar unlike the middle and upper middle classes. However the money you guys earn is comparable to the middle class
nowadays in bigger cities you can be a college educated young professional and feel like you’re on the brink of living like the “bottom out of sight” class.
I feel like now in modern times college educated people aren’t seen as a separate class. They are just seen as everyone else since anyone can get a college degree
While wanting blue collar workers to pick up their tab whole cloth, by the way
Socioeconomic mobility in USA has been sharply declining since 1980. Richard G. Wilkinson: "If Americans want to live the American dream, they should go to Denmark."
Once I was lost in Eton Square. It was raining... pouring....I was trying to find Victoria Station. I saw a man walking twords me in the opposite direction. He had on a dark suit, black bowler hat, carrying a briefcase and umbrella. I figured he knew where he was going and the area so I approached him as he was passing me. I asked him standing there, in front of him, soaking wet, obviously lost, "excuse me, do you know the way to Victoria Station" he said "yes", and kept on walking. I was 20 years young, and on vacation in London, from LA, California......I learned something that day.
You Met Sadly An Arse Who Should Have Ensured You Arrived Safely To The Station As A Minimum 🌞
To be fair mate, that’s pretty standard in London 😂 I’m working class from the north of England and have had interactions like that in London with many different ‘classes’. London can be a very impersonal city at times
@@CB-dl1vg so true and "stuck up".....
@@DomiD666 I did feel humility, but I got it.....after that I asked....the next person.... "Could you please tell me the way to Victoria station".... And ended up in London for 20 years!
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Most important line of this very interesting video, “They are individuals.”
Meritocracy leads to aristodracy. The children of 'self-mmade" rich are sent to the best schools for networking into power (Ivy leahue). They enter the same careers/industries where their parents have power and connections. Over time the same people - a small group - come to control all wealth, property and industries. Society becomes an inheritance social system.
It’s more nuanced than this. “Aristodracy”?
Most millionaires in America are self made.
@@jonpaulcox4954And 2-3 generations down the road they are broke again, because of «economic illiteracy», and lack of cultural and social capital drags them back down.
Class is in reality about « downloaded» rutines, habits, ways of consumption and socialising. Not wealth alone. If the wealth is not secured with compund interest growt it will soon be gone
@@jonpaulcox4954 lie. Bill Gates? Parents- rich. Elon Musk? Father owned a diamond mine. 99,9% of all rich people including "self made" ones have rich parents or powerful and rich parents.
Maybe all organizations should have a shelf life, and start over.
I liked Winter's Bone it reminds me of my childhood. That's been my social class for 44 years. My grandpa was a successful radiologist who had nine kids. My mom was a college dropout who was unemployed after I turned five.
I remember reading Paul Fussell's treatise on the American class structure and absolutely crying with laughter at his biting analysis of the country's social pecking order!
I must find and read this.
Thanks for sharing.
@@bethbartlett5692 You'll fall down laughing!!!
“Class” is a great book - I’ve read and consulted my copy many times.
It would be interesting to also see origins of family power and wealth…..war, weapons, agriculture, production of manufactured goods, media, natural resources, financial systems.
Yup
+1
So Spot On…a brilliant and peppy portrait that affords access to the enduring commodity and complexity that is the knowledge of modern civilization . I could not ignore placing your template atop such dynasties like the Sackler family and some of the early Transportation and Chemical /Science families here in America like Dow, Johnson & Johnson, Colgate, and Corning as well as those at the top tiers of Rail and Air both commercial and public.
Would to hear the conversation broadened to include the vital importance of the sectors of Advance Legions who were essentially slaves. Included would be the Rail workers and the Southern crop workers, primarily tobacco and alcohol associated.
Thank you for the excellent contribution you are making.
I met a lesser Kennedy cousin, a genXer. In hindsight sight he no doubt stemmed from RFK's lineage. That was a weird night at the bar. He sort of took over the corner of the bar and "enlightened" us little people with conspiracy theories, networked for an upcoming music event for stage production, and gave us allusions to the burden of bleeding wealth and a degrading family name. It's gotta suck to be at that level when other people died and fell from grace for you, and then you're just a weird nobody trying to make something out of what little is left.
Great content, great narration (the speaker has an unmistakable voice), and great research. Would you ever consider doing a video on the Bilderbergs?
Thanks Jimmy! Sure we would enjoy that!
In USA, skilled working class are homeowners and quite prosperous, more so if they become successful entrepreneurs in their fields as sub-contractors or contractors.
Completely fascinated! So well presented, I’m subbed forever!
Awesome, thank you! Welcome to the family :)
I was born and raised in a small city in northern Minnesota. Our family was middle class, as almost all citizens were. It was interesting to see people who had just a bit more than others try and become social elites. I have seen this played out over and over again in my working career in Minneapolis. People who had managerial jobs lorded it over others. One time I went up to one snotty woman and asked her if her parents were farmers as I knew she was from a small city in western Minnesota. She almost sheepishly admitted they were. I told her I miss people like that- honest and hard working. She became much nicer as I had 'outed' her. At my age I just realize that it is human nature to try and be above other people in the hopes of not being one who dies.
I truly enjoyed this documentary. Absolutely learned a lot
Glad you enjoyed it!
Stuffed to the brim with information, loved it.
Love this documentary I learned so much
So glad!
My mother Feared I would become a hermit. Thank You Mom.
I made it.
Good morning from a fellow hermit in Northern Newfoundland!!!
Jackie Chan, Olivia Newton-John, and Ian Anderson are all in the same category -- English knights. How about doing an episode on that category that embraces everyone of their ilk. Olivia is of an MI-5 or 6 family, confirming the relationship between espionage/subterfuge/destabilization and entertainment. For instance, Eddie Albert, Yoko Ono, Kate Middleton, and Harry Houdini were all espionage agents.
👏👏👏👏👏👏Frightully interesting and jolly nice English without an accent !😉
When I was young I looked after my uncle's ponies at Cowdray Park Polo Club, and everybody there spoke just like you !😀
Felicitaciones y muchos saludos,
Mariano Scotti
Olivos, Buenos Aires, Argentina
🇦🇷🇬🇧🇦🇷🇬🇧🇦🇷🇬🇧
My aunt used to run the parties for the intellectual, culturtal and media elite of New York City. David Rockefeller tried to get her to r8n his parties. She said no. He was persistent. SHe finally got blunt with him, telling him "David, your friends are boring. I only do parties for interesting people where i can be part of the conversations."
Around what years did she do this?
Without challenge, people become boring fast.
while youtube soclist who belong to their own class try to tell you NONE of this exist & YOU SHOULD ignore this system that is still alive
My situation: low middle class and working to be a doctor > upper middle class.
When a legal case was threatening to supply the public with a cheap alternative to cancer, called "vitamin B17", Olivia recorded a song, "Please, Mr., please, don't play B17". That is one of the ways wherein the subterfuge has been operated. That would have costed the American Cancer Society millions, maybe billions, in donations. The society has thriven by blocking any curings to cancer and rewarding vain and resoource-wasting "insiders" with researching grants.
So insightful!
something like a tradesman electrician or HVAC guy in a major economic area of America are probably closer to "free range" Middle class and even upper middle class (if they run their own business) in the current social climate. They are probably better off then the standard middle class considering knowledge based education is useless now since we have the internet and soon to be AI heavy economy
Joe Kennedy was boss of the first five moguls in hollywood. He visited the pope once each month to get instruction, until the grand orient/zevite takeover of vatican in conclaves of '58 and '63.
It's is not a horse shoe but in fact a circle.
Funny, slavery never was mentioned in the accumulation of the vast amount of wealth achieved. HARD WORK?!, etc. Please!
I was waiting on him to mention slavery
Mellons are now descendants of foster children of Mellons, not blood.
That's why they've all gone underground
No matter how many changes there are in society, a social class pecking order will always be created. From social class system of King's and Queens, to day's class system of the rich and powerful, its all the same. No matter how many wars are fought, no matter how much the lower classes struggles or how much money the higher classes spend a social class system of pecking order will always remain. That's just human nature.
No, its the nature of some humans.
No, its the nature of some humans that we need to bring under control.
Could you name a social class pecking order in communist China? I cannot.
What brutal honesty
Most Indigenous cultures retain some degree of differentiation in social standing
Hierarchical structure is a must in all animals to maintain order and for survival.
Y is it a must@@sonnylambert4893
Incredible work!
Very insightful
This is valuable information
I lived on a sidestreet in a small 1920's bungalow surrounded by much larger homes and older friendly neighbors.
As they died, real estate boomed from an influx from other states and countries.
The new neighbors wouldn't speak when passed while taking a walk. Literally put nose in the air and stonewalled.
I still don't get it.
Jerry sienfields net worth is legit 900 million and some how he is the embodyment of middle class WHAT
Thatt's about four and a half million for each member of DuPont. My kinswoman Cora Belle True wedded into that family, several generations before my birth, so I am blood kin to them, though inot in favor of pollution and contamination of food as they have been.
American's didn't get rid of royalty. They just got rid of titles.
To be honest though that’s a good start. America has a royal family. The Kardashians. But imagine if Americas royals were still the Vanderbilt’s ?! That would be a nightmare. We want to worship the Kardashians for some reason. But imagine if in 2120 we are expected to keep worshipping their lineage. By 2100 the Kardashians will no longer be a royal family and they will have lost most of their money like the Vanderbilt’s. Someone else will be wealthy and famous by then
Just wondering if the provenance of this film is available somewhere? What year was it made? who funded it/for what purpose was it created?
youtube.com/@oldmoneyluxury?si=TUMSERVb1W_BAOZ0
A police chief, even in a small town, is considered mid-proletarian?
Berry Gordy Jr.
My grandfather was spawn predominately of Anglo-Norman landlo'wards of every known surname, though there were some captives from Battle of Dunbar who were indentured to American farmers, and one family of clothiers who harbored Queen Mary on her first night of exile. We gave, to her, a dress.
Inside sources suggest that her execution was fraudulently reported, we assume it was a deal -- she would keep quiet and not be slain. We were on Jersey, and were first cousins to Baldwin, first king of Jerusalem. We were the sister to the owner and namer of New Jersey, who was also Chancellor of the Exchequer of the navy of Charles 2, who stayed in our house on Jersey early in his exile.
Serpent class.
Liked the use of characters from cinema as examples...
Except Margie is high proletariat. Police work isn't semi-skilled labor.
Fascinatingly ironic. While the well-heeled patrons pay the ultimate premium price for court-side floor seats, the cheap seats in the high-rafftered nose bleed section of the stadium are reserved for the peasants. The rigid dichotomy between wealth and poverty is truly humanly idiotic.
And it's by design 😮
The old money riches of Anglo Saxon American families and British rich affluent families in the UK and the world 🌎 🎉 need to help others in world
Am I the only who thought of what was said in Caddy Shack. “The world needs ditch diggers too”. I can see the upper class saying this with a straight face.
You try to tell people this s*** about both political parties but as soon as you try to disenchant them about their political party very selective at that point... in the main reason why people are so hopeless Betty even hold on to the illusion at their political party is it better than the other is better than nothing to them😂
At this point I don’t think you can say the top out of sight are necessarily out of sight. We really gonna say the Astors and the Vanderbilts were secluded and out of sight? Idk I think some of these people are the most well known. Like is Bill Gates in the class with the Kennedys? But I kinda see where they are going.
I am from sri lanka i need help can you help me
The Caribbean Sea
I feel that politics nowadays is mainly operating on these pigionhole - thinking of stereotypes 😢. Humans could be and are much more than members their "classes", who is benefitting from this way of thinking in pigionholes? Answer?
I fired my chaffeur the other day. I found his constant chatter quite boorish.
Is there something wrong with me? I like to walk alone and stretch alone and lift weights ... alone. But I also like to socialize. 😮
ambivert
So us truckers are not even on the scale 😢
Upper proletariat. Truckers make good money and are skilled labor, but they’re blue collar unlike the middle and upper middle classes. However the money you guys earn is comparable to the middle class
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If mark zuckerberg is upper middle class I’m not poor
Dumpster Fire.....
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High proletarian
So, when can we play Candy land. Monopoly is boring! 😞
Today more American than Anglo lol maybe soon Chinese lol 🤣
If only there was a way of describing the privilege that comes with this group’s relation to whiteness
In my life I have never seen a more absurd piece of misinformation than this video. What in the actual fuck is this
Soros and "class" mix like vinegar and water.
Like comparing Chardonnay and grape juice
@@jackylynn Soros is a leftist self-hating Jew who turned in fellow Jews during Nazi tyrrany.
不管美英内部的系统关系。犯法,犯罪,犯死刑也要死刑判决,不到你们横行霸道,一直用国家武力抗拒不还国家债务。知法犯法高官,不但自己的犯罪贪污影响家庭的隐藏财產也要死刑判决生效。