Most Archers Aim Too Much | Stop Aiming your Bow!
Вставка
- Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
- When coaching a common thing that has been coming up, the question of how much to aim or how hard to aim your bow. The sight picture on a bow is not as important to performance as it may seem and aiming only gets you in trouble.
For more info on Joel Turner and the Shot IQ visit his website:
www.shotiq.com
Chapters:
00:00-1:17 Intro
1:17-2:51 Stop Aiming so Hard
2:51-4:45 How Hard Should You Aim
4:45-5:46 Aiming = Stress
5:46-8:20 Summary
Consider Supporing my Channel
UA-cam Membership: / @jakekaminskiarchery
Check out my website jakekaminski.com for the many ways to support my channel; Books, Apparel, Patreon, Digital Coaching and more!
Check out new Apparel:
www.zazzle.com/store/Jake_Kam...
Support this channel on Patreon:
/ jakekaminski
*Send Cool Stuff To:
Jake Kaminski
P.O. Box 742
Micanopy, FL 32667
Send me Cryptocurrency!
Bitcoin Wallet: bc1q43y5ktt760gf2e4g6rclwv4hkg6hm5ljg4ldhx
Ethereum Wallet: 0x4144237C85978c43671206D69D666fe6E0e50355
Dogecoin: DJf31rygfsWwSRqudLCC9FYekJfLBXVAQJ
Bitcoin Cash: qz2wy3568wnfp3dzmk6m5h7nq2u8wm34xq3urkppzz
Ethereum Classic: 0x118A4a0cA5Ad03FE401Db5059f83E28D61859cc6
(if you have others I can post other wallets)
Social media links:
/ kaminskijake
/ jake_kaminski_
**Disclaimer: Jake Kaminski participates in the Amazon Associates Program, Links to amazon.com or amazon businesses and advertising fees are given to the owner of this channel. Affiliate links are helpful to this channel, and is a way for you, the individual to contribute to this channel by clicking on links and doing normal amazon shopping (without spending any money outside of your norm.)
*Items sent to my P.O. Box cannot be returned.
When I stopped aiming my groups improved by so much
This is EXACTLY why I try to encourage new archers to start off with open rings instead of sight pins. I've found it really helps reduce the urge to over-aim :)
Thank you, Jake!
Great info thanks for sharing!
This is an excellent video. Thanks Jake
Thanks for this tip.
Thank you, I will try it today while practicing
thank you mr. Jake.. i ll try this
Great video! Fortunately I instinctively do this. I recognized this many years ago and it feels so much better to relax and put the attention and energy into form and other variables.
He can give his background target to me- it is like a new one for my skills...
Absolutely great information on the aiming process! I would add that a forgiving bow setup will help or compliment this shot process.
This video is timely as I've been trying to work on aim and becoming more accurate with my shots. I recently listened to a podcast where Joel Turner was explaining aim/float. Thanks for going a bit deeper with this Jake. It's very helpful.
Looking forward to the more detailed stabiliser setup video. I recently upgraded my stabilisers and while I have played a bit with their setup would always be good to get some of your wonderful insight.
One day I forgot to bring my glasses to range for practice. Thinking to myself, I can't see the target clearly anyways, why not just aim roughly to the target and release. Then I broke my PB......
lmao jake is quickly becoming the jeff cavaliere of archery, "aiming is KILLING your GAINS"
😂😂😂
It makes sense...Will try
thank you so much for ❤
Super cool video,,, it's going to help
All of this is so true.
I set my aim & it’s just another step in my sequence. Once it’s done it’s done.The key is you don’t jump back & forth between the aim & your shot process. Never let your pin or Aim be a reason to shoot it’s only one part of the process.Set your Aim & move on to complete focus on executing a perfectly controlled shot!
Just a side note this was also taught years ago by the great Terry Wunderle who I advise checking out his coaching. Brilliant Archer & Coach!
Awesome!! I can remember when I came back to shooting a few years back, standing on the line and out loud telling myself to "stop aiming", which was something I used to do years ago to reinforce a relaxed sight picture. The bloke I was shooting with almost had a heart attack when he heard me. I am now using a open ring which is about 12mm wide and am shooting the best groups I have ever shot just letting it float. I sometimes refer to the action as "aiming with my clicker", maintaining the expansion so the bow is being pushed and pulled to the 10 rather than trying to get perfect aim.
Nice video! I had these problems in 1982, so I bought Al Hendersons book, Understanding Winning Archery, which changed my abilities tenfold. I was shooting freestyle limited AA compound fingers, he said the same thing you say, let the pin bounce around the ten ring while concentrating on the X ring. Sure was a game changer for me. Thanks for all the videos and advice to my 75 year old brain..
Jake, among all videos you made so far, for me this is the most important video - Mindblower!!! There are so many keys behind what you just said that even with a huge gap I had in archery, I can definitely understand the concept and improve my mindset. Yes, for me archery is not predominant by physical form, it's 95% mind control & only 5% shape form. Thanks for that. Cheers!
Over the last few weeks my practice arrows have been consistently more accurate than those I shot when scoring. Over-aiming and over-thinking. Took this lesson on board, went out last night and improved my previous best score over 50/40 yards by 20% - shooting was more relaxed and way more enjoyable. Thank you.
I love Joel turners stuff, and case in point his son is doing great. In your video about trad archery you were talking about just shooting and having fun which is great, which I agree with, but I feel like a lot of trad/Primitive guys could use more precision through things like what Joel Turner and Tom Clum Sr. teach.
Awesome tip - thanks for bringing Joel’s insight to your viewers attention !!!
Ps: Id love more tips for barebow. Not string walking. Instinctive.
It’s not instinctive for me….
Thanks
IT GOT WORSE FOR ME TOO BRO. THANKS MUCH !
Just like Byron Ferguson said be the arrow.😮👍🏹🎯
great video
I've noticed this phenomenon many times. This is really good advice, especially as it applies to a gap shooter looking at their arrow point.
For me longer aim time usually means my shot process went wrong. Trying to aim perfect to compensate when I should let down.
So yes. I still do it wrong occasionally but not always.
Zen “no mind” approach
When I first started shooting I discovered I was a natural instinctive snap shooter. Even with very little experience I could pretty much destroy the gold in a few sessions. After watching Utube I realised I was doing it all wrong and set about changing everything to be more like everyone else After a year I'm still not as accurate as I was and after watching this I'm going back to how I started
I just finished watching the Joel Turner episode of JRE and this is the first video that pops up when I go to youtube... Google knows too much. Definitely seen improvements talking myself through it. Like Joel says, it's simple... but not easy
Crazy timing on this video. Had no idea Joel was about to drop into the JRE
Great information Jake! What about short distances? Should I focus more on my technique that on aiming?
Thank you!
I have shot indoor 300’s for decades. My cousin and I learned about 40 years ago, to stare at the X and pull. We use back tension releases the way they were intended. It’s not easy. It would seem sometimes when my release went off, that I seemed to be on the outer part of the white, but my
Arrow would end up in the X ring. The same
Thing with a recurve. Stare at the middle holding where you can. Let it float and pull until the clicker goes, then release. I have not had a
Single bit of target panic since I used a back tension decades ago. Now I can pick up any release with a trigger, and even when someone watches me, they cannot see me set it off. I squeeze soooo slooow so it surprises me. It has to surprise you are you are not doing it right. Compound or recurve and yes I have shot recurve just to show the men o shot against could see I could outshoot them. They didn’t get it. I knew the tricks just from shooting compound and learning on my way to the top on the state. My cousin even won the state indoor twice.
Thanks for that info
It's sometimes just interesting how both the body and brain work...
Nice video for breakfast by the way.... It's always a good time to refresh the basics.
Thanks Jake!💪🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I wanted to take the opportunity to ask, regarding your supplements video: Besides drinking your protein powder right after your training sessions, do you also consider to drink your protein powder and collagen during your rest days, no matter if you're doing nothing in such days?
Greetings and thanks again.
I've noticed a big difference in shooting a typical scoring ring foam target, and stump shooting. I feel 0 pressure to hit a small leaf or stump at 30 yards, and can nail it without much thought...but shooting a target ring...it might as well be 100 yards.
Like you say, I'm over thinking/aiming, and I'm aware of what I'm doing but keep doing it🤦
I'd love a longer video on this if possible, with you shooting showing the impact points of both to showcase the difference on target. Its an issue I have once I'm about to release, I focus too much on Aiming which is due to my perfection complex always chasing that perfect X shot. Even though the best I ever shot was when I was going through my shot process focused on form rather than the target. FYI I'm a para archer from a wheelchair aiming to compete in the 2032 paragames in Brisbane Australia. Cheers, mate.
Also if you could do some para archery stuff one day thatd be cool too.
Fighting my archery friend
Not sure if it’s similar, but when I’m on good form (where I can activate the right muscle most of the shots) my shots group really well. But when I’m not in shape or haven’t shoot for weeks, unconsciously I notice I put slightly more focus in aiming and not activating the right muscle and there goes my grouping.
Hey Jake, could you please make a Review on the Win&Win Winex 2021 25' inch riser.
I shot way better groupings when gap-shooting on a trad bow than I do with sights, stabilizers, peep sight, etc. on a compound, it really feels like a different sport entirely.
Shooting a bow is like throwing a ball, you don't aim when throwing a ball, neither should you when shooting a bow. Use the sight to confirm only.
Jake, it has truly changed my perception of aiming and I feel relieved like 3 times more. One quick question, we normally witness archers shoot the very instant the clicker clicks, Boom. How can I connect the idea of this video with the other video you created about clicker? May be clicker clicks earlier but I havent yet spotted the 10 ring. Should I wait or what?
Float is the magic word... Someone gave me advice about two years ago... He said that he just lets the arrow tip Float out there and when it feels right release... My accuracy has gotten much tighter when I do this...
hi,
from draw to release, it takes 4 seconds to me
from 18 to 50 meters it's the same, i watch a coloured zone, the heigth and ziiiiiiiiiip !!
thank you for your advices !
Excellent Coaching
I would like to know how breathing affects your shooting, like releasing on an inhale or exhale, and how long is to long to hold a breath while aiming?
To make this point, my coach flipped the target over and said “let’s just focus on form for a minute, put it anywhere on the paper”. Afterwards he flipped it over and I’d scored my highest ever, something like 8 or 10 arrows. 😊
I sometimes shoot a target at 25-30m in the dark, barely seeing its shape. A correct posture makes me shoot better than in full daylight.
HIi Jake can I add to this aiming discussion please Im having a horrid time trying shoot both eyes open any advice? my arrows go about 8 inches left from shooting with my dominant eye only
How do you align the bow string and the arrow ???
I ask students to hold an arrow out, nock end up, and observe the ten ring between the ears of the nock while focusing on the ten ring. Take a moment to observe how much movement you perceive, then change your focus to the nock itself and see how much it's actually moving. IT'S BARELY MOVING AT ALL! Let go of that worry and keep moving through your shot cycle. It's great when the switch goes on and you learn that leaving the 'aim at center' up to your subconscious is not just less stressful, but WAY better than "Trying" to aim. "Aim small, miss small" was a good movie quote. "Aim small, miss big" is reality. Guy
Just watched Joel on Joe Rogan talking about how little to focus on aim. Dudley talks about this too, “trust the float”. It’s the most difficult part of archery for me.
For sure. It’s challenging and when you get it, it’s what you chase with the next arrow. That feeling of being free of the aim is where it’s at.
@@JakeKaminskiArchery thank you for enforcing this concept, and for all the videos that have helped me figure out my bare bow! 🤘
My 11-year-old son just started experimenting with using a recurve sight. I wanted him just to play around with getting used to using the sight pin as a reference point, seeing where the arrows fly, making lateral and vertical adjustments to the sight. His coach came over and tried to get my son immediately to change a variety of mechanics for use with the sight. I just wanted my son to do whatever he was doing before, but to experiment on his own with using the sight and playing around with sight adjustments. The coach, who is not necessarily an accomplished archer but more of a physical education coach, and I got into a brief argument over this.
Is there a need to dramatically reconfigure head position and anchor point when transitioning to shooting with a sight?
I stopped going to work and now I'm rich! Thanks Jake!
I discovered as a child that I could shoot a 22 off the hip as I could through the sights. I still don't understand why.
Aiming to much causes target panic and target panic causes scores to drop.
Jake - did you do Joel’s class or in person or going off videos on youtube? Just wondering
I don’t use bow sights! I was always more concerned about the alignment between ends. The stress of getting the sight setup right distracted me from actually shooting. So l shoot bare bow. So do the same rules apply? Aim less, and shoot by (as it were) feel?
Hi Jake,
Could you do a video on seeing a sight pin that is very blurry. I have struggled with this since the beginning of starting archery. I'm almost certain my problem is that my eye dominance is very balanced such as 45% left, 55% right (I'm a right-handed archer).
Maybe your video could include details around squinting with the less dominant eye, the best sight pins to solve an archer's specific problems, etc.
I recently shot a frostbite and the angle of the sun made my sight pin much clearer and I broke the county record. Given that success I had, I really need to confront this issue.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for all your hard work.
By the way, I have watched your video on sight pins but you don't cover the issue of having a sight pin that is too blurry, which is likely caused by my rather balanced eye dominance.
P.s. I don't wear or need glasses.
What can I do when I aim and my eyes just try to over focus to my dominant eye? I shoot right handed but my dominant eye is the left, I've shot for years by just closing the left but realized it makes my shooting too stiff. Now that I've tried shooting with both eyes open, my shooting has been progressively better form wise but with respect with having a clear target picture it's just everywhere. I see double target(looks like using binoculars that's not focused in the one eye), and string alignment just isn't correct with my string already aligned to the outside of the riser(with the movement of the sun makes it worse for aligning).
Maybe not related to this but not sure if you have more videos with my problem
Hi Jake, Do you and Heather regularly shoot at a local club? What distances and competitions do you go in?
I have a question and was wondering wether you could maybe make a video about it? My clubmembers told me that my drawing elbow should be lower to engage my back more (it was pointing pretty high) but what i struggle with is getting my anchor with a lower elbow. I dont know if its just my jaw shape or am i doing something wrong?
ua-cam.com/video/F52ec-2R0g4/v-deo.html Check out the new video!
Hi jake, i've been wondering why do you kept using AAE compound vanes instead of spin wings or spider vanes like other recurve archers do?
Product Announcement: WAV PRO Vanes | A More Forgiving Vane for Finger Shooters
ua-cam.com/video/tNjFa6zzVKY/v-deo.html check out this video. I break down why I use them.
Thank you for this video, it's great. I believe that an archer's strength lies in flexibility of mind and muscle memory.
No bow is like another, no two distances where you can shoot the same. That's why I encourage beginners to try everything but always own and periodically go back to shooting a simple bow, no shelf, no gadgets, no weights. When aiming, if I go over 3 seconds in full draw I already feel it wrong so I put the bow down and start again because I know it will be a bad release. But if it will be a good shot, I can already feel it in my posture before the full draw.
Horse bows, longbows & selfbows, all bows without shelf are great for learning how to aim without aiming. All I do is get into a correct posture, correct anchor, then I adjust my bow hand relative to the target(love the geometry of aiming) and release.
Also when it comes to aiming ( just as everything else in archery) I stand by my motto: the more you put into the bow, the more you take from the archer. Trust yourself and your posture, be commited to the target but relaxed, be ready to challenge in a second everything you know and start over.
In other words, "Use the Force!"
DONT THINK…FEEL…
It's something the young people never get it. The way they engrained hard is to push themselves focus at aiming but not the whole picture of the shot.
Jake, the way a lot of thousands of years of Asiatic military archer training does not use an anchor. Why? Because it tends to do what you are describing.
The concept behind most Asiatic military archery is like “drawing/pulling” a rubber band. When you stretch a rubber band it is always a straight line. If your “form” of stance and the draw are consistent you release “during the draw”.
Do not stop, pause, or collapse the draw. No traditional draw.
This becomes like learning to throw a rock. You’re developing repeatable accurate form. The only indicator of when to release is when you have drawn so much that you feel the arrow tip touch your bow hand index finger. This is traditionally done shooting “shelfless” Asiatic or longbows. There are any examples of skilled archers using this training and method.