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ER Nurse here - as I was counting up the number of times I’ve had someone else’s poop on me I realized I couldn’t think of a body fluid/waste/goo I HAVENT had on me. Vitreous humor? That’s one. I’ve never had eyeball goo on me. That’s the only one I can think of. Oh - and I wonder what the koalas would think of OUR sex noises. 🤔🤣
@Chooseashorterhandle2 A violent accident involving the eye? Perhaps something that Increased pressure within the eye, to the point of rupture? Or a parasite that.... Y'know what? Never mind. I need to stop this now 😅😅
Fellow nurse here, while this did not happen to me on the job, in A&P II, I did have to dissect a cow eye. I'd say I've never had CSF on me. I think that's the only fluid I can think of not having had on me.
The whole don’t say gay (animals) thing makes me think of my art history classes and the contemporary argument that (say for example) Alexander the Great wasn’t gay or bisexual (because of a very reasonable sociological argument that the concept of homosexuality didn’t exist at the time etc etc) BUT it’s obvious the resistance to that as shorthand term was mostly from homophobia. And, my argument of course being, if homosexual is a modern term that cannot be applied to socially pre-modern people (how you define that is your own battle) so is heterosexual. However since ‘queer’ is a recognized umbrella term to define everything outside the modern hegemonic definition of ‘normal’ sexuality and gender representation, every (premodern) historical figure is and can be accurately described as queer. I think my professors enjoyed my toungue in cheek papers most of all
I was on my local school board for 11 years, but resigned last year over the botching of the attempted banning of the book 'Queer Ducks' by Eliot Shrefer. The book, aimed at middle- and high-school students, discusses much of what you discussed today, and a person in our district -- not even a parent -- made a complaint. The process we had in place for dealing with these complaints was old and outdated for dealing with the politicized world we live in now. But even that process was not followed properly, and homophobic values led to bad outcomes. I ended up resigning over all of it, after -- in my view and the view of others -- I was made a bad guy for criticizing the handling of all the mistakes, and the people who made them, rather than the one looking for a way to improve things for LGBTQ students and their families. I'm a straight, cis, male, 63-years old, whose one child is now an adult. I'm happy to say that I was replaced on the board with someone who has a non-binary child who is currently a student in the district. Even before this person joined the board, but after I left, the policy for handling this kind of thing was made better (though not ideal, to my mind). Maybe, with this new person on the board, they'll be more careful to actually follow their own policy. We should all be able to be -- and to celebrate being -- who we are. Not fitting into the neat, binary roles that have been culturally constructed does not make someone 'unnatural'. At this point, on this point, we should all just be saying 'Duh!' And the continued, ongoing hiding and denial of observed reality by actual scientists is just terrible. This is demonstrably damaging to kids and other queer people. I realize that I'm almost exclusively preaching to the choir in this comment section, but it still disgusts and enrages me when I think about the whole debacle from our district: The woman who made the complaint had not even read the book at the time; she called all of the staff 'groomers' for pedophiles; the principal in charge of the resulting public meeting did not push back on this at all after she made these open comments at the meeting (which, of course, had nothing to do with the book, but made clear where she was coming from), and clearly -- against specific guidance within our policy -- the principal openly injected his own religious and personal opinions into the discussion and decision-making at the public meeting, with his own hand-picked committee. All of this AFTER one of his students -- going through the process of realizing their non-binary identity -- had broken down in tears while making a public statement about being against the ban. AND after another commenter against the ban read out the horrendous results of a survey of our own students and the frequency of destructive thoughts and feelings among those who were queer. (As a board member, I was not even aware of this survey, and still know little about it. As far as I know it was never released publicly). It was clear to all of us at that meeting that this principal had already made up his mind. He didn't listen to anyone, and he hurt a lot of people. And after the meeting, it became clear that there were other things in the hidden background that made it all even worse. Ugh. After trying for weeks to get this resolved, working with plenty of others in the community, I decided that the best way for me to get across just how serious all this was, was to quit the board. At least to an extent, it had become about me. I think it may have helped the situation, and I sure know it helped me. I have always been intolerant of intolerance. I don't even get it. I got physically sick being a part of a group with power that were actively -- even if unwittingly -- causing harm to those it was our job to care for. Sorry for the extra-long comment, but this was spot on for me, and opened some wounds. This community has been so very helpful to me, with its compassionate, thoughtful embrace of all that we can be, and its rejection of suck. Thanks!
@Chooseashorterhandle2 Your comment actually means a lot. And I hope others who read it might get a little hope in knowing they do have people who care deeply.
Appreciate your sharing. I wasn't expecting this comment and, in fact, was mildly surprised to find myself in paragraph 3 and still reading.* At the same time, it also isn't surprising at all. I think a lot of folks have endured some part or version of this experience in the last decade. For myself it was a volunteer gig at the library. While the lower personal stakes are something I'm grateful for, the weight of the stakes for others and broader society was certainly something I experienced strongly. Of course, there are acute victims of these outbursts that need/deserve the priority of recognition and care. But we are all, all of us, target and victim of these attacks … and they are attacks. They aren't misplaced attempts at protecting children. As evidenced by how often the instigators haven't even read the materials they are challenging. They are attacks aimed at breaking down civil society. All of us who value a culture that broadens horizons rather than limits them have to be invested. Unfair as it is (since none of us asked for or deserve any this) we have to do what we can, where we can, for as long as we can to defend it. -- * simply because it was tangential and not the tone or topic I came for; not because it wasn't well written or interesting-as it was both.
@@Psittacus_erithacus Thanks, and I think your own thoughts are spot on. While I resigned from the school board, I haven't stopped caring, researching, sharing, and speaking out.
Todays episode was so informative and inspiring!! I'm a bisexual and want to be a vet (I'm only 16 so we'll see) but i never realised how many people could relate to the same love of animals like i do and not be misogynistic or conceited Have a great week to all if you!! 🏳🌈🏳🌈
Have any of you read about the eagle threesome of 2 males 1 female that is being documented. The first "marriage" was attacked by other eagles and the female fled. The remaining males courted another female to join them and are still being watched.
Do you know what hypopressive muscles are? Take a breath. Tighten your muscles and hold it. Take even more air until your lungs are really full. Hold it. That usually brings back the diaphragm
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I am a gay animal and I approve of this message.
Agreed 🐨🏳🌈
I usually listen to the audio version but the video was worth it to see Hank buffering after “yes Dad”
Thanks for having us on the show! 💖
That poem had me pacing in my kitchen hands on my head 😂
I was like, "jealou-say"? "Acapellow"?! NO, I will not allow such unabashed trashing of rhyme schemes! 😂
@@IceMetalPunk 🤣 to me, the whole poem was such a combo of cringe and majestic i thought i needed a break midway 😂
This could be the greatest poem of scishow poem hall of fame.
This was so delightful as a queer science teacher, lol. Thank you for Gay Science
ER Nurse here - as I was counting up the number of times I’ve had someone else’s poop on me I realized I couldn’t think of a body fluid/waste/goo I HAVENT had on me.
Vitreous humor? That’s one. I’ve never had eyeball goo on me.
That’s the only one I can think of.
Oh - and I wonder what the koalas would think of OUR sex noises. 🤔🤣
@Chooseashorterhandle2 A violent accident involving the eye? Perhaps something that Increased pressure within the eye, to the point of rupture? Or a parasite that....
Y'know what? Never mind. I need to stop this now 😅😅
Fellow nurse here, while this did not happen to me on the job, in A&P II, I did have to dissect a cow eye. I'd say I've never had CSF on me. I think that's the only fluid I can think of not having had on me.
"Was that a tangent? Did I do it?" 🤣
The whole don’t say gay (animals) thing makes me think of my art history classes and the contemporary argument that (say for example) Alexander the Great wasn’t gay or bisexual (because of a very reasonable sociological argument that the concept of homosexuality didn’t exist at the time etc etc) BUT it’s obvious the resistance to that as shorthand term was mostly from homophobia. And, my argument of course being, if homosexual is a modern term that cannot be applied to socially pre-modern people (how you define that is your own battle) so is heterosexual. However since ‘queer’ is a recognized umbrella term to define everything outside the modern hegemonic definition of ‘normal’ sexuality and gender representation, every (premodern) historical figure is and can be accurately described as queer. I think my professors enjoyed my toungue in cheek papers most of all
This is fascinating! I never considered that framing of it as a rebuttal. Can’t wait to use it in the future
The "Science Poem" was absolutely hilarious. Thanks for the laughs!
LOL! 'Was that a tangent?
...Did i do it?'
Precious
I need a “so why not shrimp?” shirt immediately
+5 to Owen for knowing what a bindlestick is.
Letsss goooooo already hyped for the poem, thank yalls❤️
HEY! That poem was very much majestic ✨️ 🎉😂
It was beautiful lmao
The most interesting I've heard (apart from ofc Sam's "blue" Poem 😂 ❤ truly a masterpiece but today it had competition
I was on my local school board for 11 years, but resigned last year over the botching of the attempted banning of the book 'Queer Ducks' by Eliot Shrefer. The book, aimed at middle- and high-school students, discusses much of what you discussed today, and a person in our district -- not even a parent -- made a complaint. The process we had in place for dealing with these complaints was old and outdated for dealing with the politicized world we live in now. But even that process was not followed properly, and homophobic values led to bad outcomes. I ended up resigning over all of it, after -- in my view and the view of others -- I was made a bad guy for criticizing the handling of all the mistakes, and the people who made them, rather than the one looking for a way to improve things for LGBTQ students and their families. I'm a straight, cis, male, 63-years old, whose one child is now an adult. I'm happy to say that I was replaced on the board with someone who has a non-binary child who is currently a student in the district. Even before this person joined the board, but after I left, the policy for handling this kind of thing was made better (though not ideal, to my mind). Maybe, with this new person on the board, they'll be more careful to actually follow their own policy.
We should all be able to be -- and to celebrate being -- who we are. Not fitting into the neat, binary roles that have been culturally constructed does not make someone 'unnatural'. At this point, on this point, we should all just be saying 'Duh!' And the continued, ongoing hiding and denial of observed reality by actual scientists is just terrible. This is demonstrably damaging to kids and other queer people.
I realize that I'm almost exclusively preaching to the choir in this comment section, but it still disgusts and enrages me when I think about the whole debacle from our district: The woman who made the complaint had not even read the book at the time; she called all of the staff 'groomers' for pedophiles; the principal in charge of the resulting public meeting did not push back on this at all after she made these open comments at the meeting (which, of course, had nothing to do with the book, but made clear where she was coming from), and clearly -- against specific guidance within our policy -- the principal openly injected his own religious and personal opinions into the discussion and decision-making at the public meeting, with his own hand-picked committee. All of this AFTER one of his students -- going through the process of realizing their non-binary identity -- had broken down in tears while making a public statement about being against the ban. AND after another commenter against the ban read out the horrendous results of a survey of our own students and the frequency of destructive thoughts and feelings among those who were queer. (As a board member, I was not even aware of this survey, and still know little about it. As far as I know it was never released publicly). It was clear to all of us at that meeting that this principal had already made up his mind. He didn't listen to anyone, and he hurt a lot of people. And after the meeting, it became clear that there were other things in the hidden background that made it all even worse. Ugh.
After trying for weeks to get this resolved, working with plenty of others in the community, I decided that the best way for me to get across just how serious all this was, was to quit the board. At least to an extent, it had become about me. I think it may have helped the situation, and I sure know it helped me. I have always been intolerant of intolerance. I don't even get it. I got physically sick being a part of a group with power that were actively -- even if unwittingly -- causing harm to those it was our job to care for.
Sorry for the extra-long comment, but this was spot on for me, and opened some wounds. This community has been so very helpful to me, with its compassionate, thoughtful embrace of all that we can be, and its rejection of suck. Thanks!
@Chooseashorterhandle2 Your comment actually means a lot. And I hope others who read it might get a little hope in knowing they do have people who care deeply.
Appreciate your sharing. I wasn't expecting this comment and, in fact, was mildly surprised to find myself in paragraph 3 and still reading.* At the same time, it also isn't surprising at all. I think a lot of folks have endured some part or version of this experience in the last decade. For myself it was a volunteer gig at the library. While the lower personal stakes are something I'm grateful for, the weight of the stakes for others and broader society was certainly something I experienced strongly. Of course, there are acute victims of these outbursts that need/deserve the priority of recognition and care. But we are all, all of us, target and victim of these attacks
… and they are attacks. They aren't misplaced attempts at protecting children. As evidenced by how often the instigators haven't even read the materials they are challenging. They are attacks aimed at breaking down civil society. All of us who value a culture that broadens horizons rather than limits them have to be invested. Unfair as it is (since none of us asked for or deserve any this) we have to do what we can, where we can, for as long as we can to defend it.
--
* simply because it was tangential and not the tone or topic I came for; not because it wasn't well written or interesting-as it was both.
@@Psittacus_erithacus Thanks, and I think your own thoughts are spot on. While I resigned from the school board, I haven't stopped caring, researching, sharing, and speaking out.
omg i am so amazed the sparrow fact made it on there. my dad told me about it a few years ago and it’s so amazing to me.
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Such a joyful episode. Thanks to all involved.
i am very pleasantly surprised by this comment section
Todays episode was so informative and inspiring!!
I'm a bisexual and want to be a vet (I'm only 16 so we'll see) but i never realised how many people could relate to the same love of animals like i do and not be misogynistic or conceited
Have a great week to all if you!! 🏳🌈🏳🌈
Thanks for thanking me for my question! This was a great episode! I'm definitely going to check out @CanadalandPodcasts
It all started with giraffes who love giraffes, and look where Hank is now. Beautiful.
The score was 6 to 9. Nice!
The fact that this isn't a furry-focused episode is frankly incredible.
Wonderful guests !
Oh shit! Saree just like Hank and me??? Good day to wear my bi pride shirt
50:48 That's a GREAT book title.
This may be my favorite episode of Tangents so far. Absolutely delightful.
YASSSSSSSSS this is the best episode!
This is so awesome! Great guests and amazing information.
Having a ‘diaper’ that doesn’t contain the poop in the UK is sometimes known as a ‘poonami’ (like a poo tsunami?)
When the host introduces Owen Ever it sounds a bit like he says ‘O what ever’?
Hooligan Cox would be a great drag name
Another wonderful episode
Who are the new guests?? Also I'm very curious to which questions i will have acter watching yhis
The whitethroated sparrow is giving omegaverse
Oh. You said "fraught"
12:30
Have any of you read about the eagle threesome of 2 males 1 female that is being documented. The first "marriage" was attacked by other eagles and the female fled. The remaining males courted another female to join them and are still being watched.
Best poem ever!
Can't wait to hear just how off topic y'all can go this episode 🙈
Alright how many wtfs did yall get during the poem?
Good
Majority gay podcast episode🎉🎉
The whitethroated sparrows are just flagging.... so embarrassing if you end up going home with someone but find out your both tops lmao
I have hiccups.. 😢 started just now. I really wanted to enjoy this.
I held my breath for a while. It relaxed my diaphragm. Crisis averted!
@@kyle20176 Thanks for coming back with an update, I hope you enjoy the episode.
Lemon juice shot
BOOOO!!
Do you know what hypopressive muscles are? Take a breath. Tighten your muscles and hold it. Take even more air until your lungs are really full. Hold it. That usually brings back the diaphragm
#SaveTheMicrocosmos
LOL! 'Was that a tangent?
...Did i do it?'
Precious