When editing this teardown I got to "run this over with your car" and thought "hmmmmmm" the controller had been re-assembled so I went for it! The analog triggers do work, they don't show as analog as a driver oversight. I should do another video where I tear it down again to inspect the damage.
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The wall-wart from the Chromecast Ultra can be used with almost all other Google/Nest stuff that uses USB-Micro for power to give them Ethernet capabilities. I got most of my Home-Minis wired that way.
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You can also use Bluetooth now with the controllers. A firmware update is available that allows you to pair them like a bog standard controller 👍
Apparently Google released a site where you can download software for the stadia controller allowing it to be used as just a generic Bluetooth controller for your PC, and android devices.
Funny to hear about the crazy build quality of the Stadia controller. Makes me feel better that Google released the tool to enable Bluetooth so they can live a second life.
@@BenHeckHacks Yep, you just need to have the controller hardwire connected and go to a website to make the one time permanent switch from wi-fi to bt.
Since Zelda sips power, could you put a capacitor in a Zelda game and see how long it will hold your save data? Even better, do it to a Sega game also and see the difference.
Google has a process to unlock bluetooth on the stadia contollers now. They waited until the service was cancled before allowing it. The little tests I did, it works really good.
those stadia controllers can be updated to a new firmware that uses bluetooth instead of wifi and the technical guys are actually having trouble getting the wifi firmwares for analysis 'gotham' is dead but 'bruce' lives, the update process is a tad annoying but not too difficult edit: the screen on that gameboy did not survive, the nintendo techs swapped it out because they couldnt find anything else seriously wrong with the electronics and figured why not
My hypothesis for why the Stadia controller was built so well was a combination of the fact that 1) they wanted people to get the controller and realize that they really like using it in comparison to the other console controllers which would incentivize them to continue to use the service, and 2) they probably knew that people would be skeptical about the experience as a whole so making the controller really nice would reduce the friction that it would take to win people over.
You know Ben... We have pretty much common. I'd say that in many situations my reaction would be pretty much like yours. And I know how does it when everybody asks you to fix something. Hope to see you soon again!
google have released an update for the controllers to enable it as a bluetooth device for use with pcs etc now... so no longer have to have it connected via usb
Bud probably is acting out and being bad because of disruption to his schedule. You probably got him used to things being one way, then changed something as to how the flow of the day is, and he doesn't like the schedule change. A good way to try and get him to stop with the bad behavior is to give him a little bit of a schedule. Like giving him a small block of time during the day where you purposefully interact with him, like you can get a rechargeable USB laser pointer and have him chase it for a bit before you make your lunch, then he has something to look forward to. There was a study written somewhere (I can't remember where anymore, thanks ADHD.) that cats either have ADHD or autism, which is the reason why there is no such thing as a "normal" cat, and why they get thrown off by disruptions.
My (Google) Nest Indoor camera died from a fall from a coffee table onto a carpeted floor. Hopefully they'll send their controller designers over to their camera division.
I did the math for cloud gaming at one point. Assuming full optical pathways, cabling, processing, etc., with no limitations beyond the speed of light itself, for cloud gaming to match the current performance of locally-rendered online games you would need a server within something like a hundred miles of you _at maximum;_ so just the needed server infrastructure itself doesn't make sense, and this is assuming we're at a technological point where we have full optical between endpoints for the absolute fastest of transfer speeds. Even if we could beam lightspeed data directly from endpoint to endpoint, it still doesn't make sense. And this is just the issue of data transmission, and not getting into the issues of compression and decompression to save on transfer sizes, or other goofy little tricks to streamline the process. Which is why I'm hoping Intel is still working on Continual Compute, which would make setting up thin clients on a thick server so easy anyone could do it, and this is how you get around the limitations of cloud gaming, a local processing server with a thin client; whether that processing server is something in your house, something your employer provides depending on what your workflow requires, something that a school or other institution provides, etc., it could probably even work for modern internet cafes where you bring a low-end device and have access to higher-end computing. I'm also personally hoping that Continual Compute will also be the eventual death of cloud service programs, given how certain companies want to treat their cloud services in recent years.
Yup and then you have additional lag from the wireless controller and the HDMI-to-TV which is always variable. "America just needs better internet" people will say, but sorry but C is a constant! I like MS's approach where XCloud is a feature on something you're already paying for (Game Pass) so it's more acceptable when it's less ideal.
Americium was first sinthesized in a nuclear reactor by Glenn T. Seaborg in 1944, so its named after the country of its first appearance, not discovery since its not a naturally occuring element.
So Google now allows to switch stadia controller into a bluetooth mode! Which is a great news and it gives a second life to the controller. Kudos to Google.
The problem with those led bulbs is if one led goes out then the light dies. You just figure out with one is bad and wrap a thin wire around the blown one to bridge it and the bulb works again
The LED bulbs like that actually run the LEDs in series, not parallel, so when one fails the entire light bulb fails... So most of the time if one of those lights fail, it is just one of the individual LEDs.
Heh. Remember the Radioactive Boy Scout? David Hahn. He built a homemade nuclear breeder reactor in a potting shed in his back yard in the mid 1990's. The materials used were all things you could buy from your local stores. It's an interesting story.
Reduce, Re-use, Recycle. I think Repair should be included but that's part or re-use I guess or recycle for component salvalge. I'm kinda on a repair kick for the new year, repairing kids toys and rc cars mostly.
Were you not getting a measurement on the Sega batteries because there was a conformal coating on the board that needed to be scraped off to make contact?
Google is releasing a firmware upgrade for the stadia controller to allow generic bluetooth use I heard. Edit: I see, already mentioned. If only Google had asked you about the speed of light first :P This was my opinion too, I'm still trying to get better latency with standard gaming. Few people know what it was like to play games on lan, netcode isn't even designed for it anymore. I laughed so hard everytime Google spoke about their negative latency tech.
We have a mini component hifi thing that the tuner has a battery backup I think it was a cr2032 that is directly soldered on the board for the preset and still holds a charge today. That thing was bought on 83 and last used about 2003 or something.
@BenHeckHacks Would you go as far as to say the Stadia controller is well over engineered? I can only assume that thing cost Google a lot to manufacture, and they were basically giving them away for the longest time. It really does show how much of a passion project Stadia was though. It will be missed :(
I'll miss it too, especially because I mostly used it for my kids and they loved that they could just go from streaming youtube or netflix to playing games very seamlessly (without needing an adult to switch inputs on the TV or something), and I didn't have to worry about them messing up a console or scratching discs, etc. It also worked super well for me on fiber optic (like I could hardly tell it wasn't a local console experience), but I tried it at my nephew's house who lives in a rural area and the network was just not up to snuff and it made it frustrating. It was a niche product, but I'd say very well implemented. Also, the controller is my favorite of all the controllers I've used in my life. Glad they get a new life with the bluetooth patch.
@@LarsSveen I played the hell out of Red Dead Redemption 2 on cable internet and had a great experience too. No real lag to speak of... definitely sad to see it go. It was destined to fail though, since everyone (including tech news sites) shit all over it immediately and didn't give it a chance. Super cool of Google to release the Bluetooth patch and to refund the hardware and game purchases!
Ben there is a new update firmware not sure if out or. Or yet. But it will let you use it as a normal usb or Bluetooth handheld controller. Might want to look into that.
My kitchen timer is a tad weird, being it has a numpad for putting the time in. It may be blind (lcd got grilled by the sun at a flea market) but it still works!
I've lived in my new house for more than five years and all the lamps that have insurance bulbs, but I've easily gone through 20-30 LED bulbs in the same time. I have found that the IKEA brand LED bulbs are by far the most reliable - even over Crea and Sylvania.
I've had the same experience with all my battery-backed NES carts; every one of them from childhood still works to this day and have never been opened. We should reconvene in 2 millenia to confirm our calculations.
That's not actually a capacitive dropper in the LED light bulb at 6:32. If you take a closer look at the circuitry, the capacitor is after the bridge rectifier, acting as a smoothing capacitor to reduce flicker (the resistor is just a discharge resistor for that cap to ensure that the light goes out quickly when the power is cut). You need an AC voltage to use a capacitive dropper (as it relies on capacitive reactance, which is not a DC concept), and the capacitor must also be in series with the rest of the circuit (thus it would be nonpolar and be placed before the bridge rectifier). The actual voltage dropper is that IC (the one you called a regulator). It's essentially a constant current regulator, working to drop whatever voltage difference there is between the smoothed, rectified DC supply voltage (~170 VDC in the USA) and the voltage drop of the LED string.
When editing this teardown I got to "run this over with your car" and thought "hmmmmmm" the controller had been re-assembled so I went for it! The analog triggers do work, they don't show as analog as a driver oversight. I should do another video where I tear it down again to inspect the damage.
The wall-wart from the Chromecast Ultra can be used with almost all other Google/Nest stuff that uses USB-Micro for power to give them Ethernet capabilities. I got most of my Home-Minis wired that way.
You can also use Bluetooth now with the controllers. A firmware update is available that allows you to pair them like a bog standard controller 👍
Apparently Google released a site where you can download software for the stadia controller allowing it to be used as just a generic Bluetooth controller for your PC, and android devices.
Amazing. Saving the world one random little kitchen timer at a time.
This is exactly the kind of BHH content I can't get enough of
Funny to hear about the crazy build quality of the Stadia controller. Makes me feel better that Google released the tool to enable Bluetooth so they can live a second life.
Big Clive found that most LED bulbs are over driven, so the LEDs fail. Often a single resistor removed, will can keep them running for a life time.
Ben, Google just released a (one way) wi-fi to bluetooth update.
Wifi to BT? So the controller becomes BT? Can this be done with just the controller? Ie no Chrome cast?
@@BenHeckHacks Yes, you plug it in via USB and go to the webpage with Chrome and it should do it
Yeah, I heard about that from ltt. I only cringed a little when he ran it over because I figured he didn't know about that lmao
Apparently it's a time limited option though, only possible to change it before a specific date.
@@BenHeckHacks Yep, you just need to have the controller hardwire connected and go to a website to make the one time permanent switch from wi-fi to bt.
Is Ben destined to become a crazy cat repair-man?
Tune in again to find out! ;D
I got the image of him repairing a cyborg bud after your comment :P
google has enabled the Bluetooth on the controllers
"Every once in a while I find the need to sew poorly"
Now this is relatable content.
Since Zelda sips power, could you put a capacitor in a Zelda game and see how long it will hold your save data? Even better, do it to a Sega game also and see the difference.
Hey Ben, you can upgrade the Stadia controller to work with Bluetooth now. Google released a thing for it a few days ago.
Code review done. Circumference is 2 * r * pi
Is there a TAU button?
The Louis Rossmann impression made my day.
"Dead kitchen timer. Rise from your Gravy" Made me chuckle far more than it should have.
stadia have since released an update so you can use it as a bluetooth controller now
haha drives over it with car, comedy gold :P
The analog triggers require a fix on windows to work, its a problem with the driver or config. A register trick fixes it.
Ouch! Random Louis burn....
I really enjoy these kind of videos. Keep up the great work.
6:20 I don't think it's a capacitive dropper. They don't use electrolytics for that. That TO-263 is probably a linear regulator.
OMG the car thing had me in tears. 🤣
what's the story wishbone? I got dismembered with a craaaft kniiiife 🎶
My eye starts twitching every time Ben says Big Clyde
Lol. I cackled when you told wishbone he was smuggling drugs.
Bud just needs some hugs man!! Have a similar cat boy.
You can link the bluetooth controller to PCs now, though. They unlocked the bluetooth connectivity.
Google has a process to unlock bluetooth on the stadia contollers now. They waited until the service was cancled before allowing it. The little tests I did, it works really good.
Alright you got me. I did a double-take when I saw the car backing over the controller.
I’m now motivated to perform surgery on my (formerly) talking Taco Bell chihuahua. That thing only went silent a few years ago!
those stadia controllers can be updated to a new firmware that uses bluetooth instead of wifi and the technical guys are actually having trouble getting the wifi firmwares for analysis 'gotham' is dead but 'bruce' lives, the update process is a tad annoying but not too difficult
edit: the screen on that gameboy did not survive, the nintendo techs swapped it out because they couldnt find anything else seriously wrong with the electronics and figured why not
I love random teardowns and repairs
I love the stadia controller. The D pad is S tier. I can't think of a more comfortable and satisfying one.
It's the best controller I've ever used. I'm glad they did at least release the Bluetooth unlock.
My hypothesis for why the Stadia controller was built so well was a combination of the fact that 1) they wanted people to get the controller and realize that they really like using it in comparison to the other console controllers which would incentivize them to continue to use the service, and 2) they probably knew that people would be skeptical about the experience as a whole so making the controller really nice would reduce the friction that it would take to win people over.
Stadia Controller must have been built for lag rage throwing.
Really selling me on a stadia controller right now lol
"Wishbone, I'm gonna need you to take this over the border for me." Lmao
You know Ben... We have pretty much common. I'd say that in many situations my reaction would be pretty much like yours. And I know how does it when everybody asks you to fix something. Hope to see you soon again!
google have released an update for the controllers to enable it as a bluetooth device for use with pcs etc now... so no longer have to have it connected via usb
Google should just sell standalone stadia controllers with hall sticks and Bluetooth enabled. They'd sell thousands.
It's a damn fine controller! Kids would have a hard time destroying these.
Bud probably is acting out and being bad because of disruption to his schedule. You probably got him used to things being one way, then changed something as to how the flow of the day is, and he doesn't like the schedule change. A good way to try and get him to stop with the bad behavior is to give him a little bit of a schedule. Like giving him a small block of time during the day where you purposefully interact with him, like you can get a rechargeable USB laser pointer and have him chase it for a bit before you make your lunch, then he has something to look forward to.
There was a study written somewhere (I can't remember where anymore, thanks ADHD.) that cats either have ADHD or autism, which is the reason why there is no such thing as a "normal" cat, and why they get thrown off by disruptions.
My (Google) Nest Indoor camera died from a fall from a coffee table onto a carpeted floor. Hopefully they'll send their controller designers over to their camera division.
... and it was the best video. Fixing random crap is good content.
Oh hey did you want another "Did you know there is a Bluetooth update for Stadia controller" comment? It looks like you don't have enough of them.
More. Please and thank you.
I did the math for cloud gaming at one point. Assuming full optical pathways, cabling, processing, etc., with no limitations beyond the speed of light itself, for cloud gaming to match the current performance of locally-rendered online games you would need a server within something like a hundred miles of you _at maximum;_ so just the needed server infrastructure itself doesn't make sense, and this is assuming we're at a technological point where we have full optical between endpoints for the absolute fastest of transfer speeds. Even if we could beam lightspeed data directly from endpoint to endpoint, it still doesn't make sense. And this is just the issue of data transmission, and not getting into the issues of compression and decompression to save on transfer sizes, or other goofy little tricks to streamline the process. Which is why I'm hoping Intel is still working on Continual Compute, which would make setting up thin clients on a thick server so easy anyone could do it, and this is how you get around the limitations of cloud gaming, a local processing server with a thin client; whether that processing server is something in your house, something your employer provides depending on what your workflow requires, something that a school or other institution provides, etc., it could probably even work for modern internet cafes where you bring a low-end device and have access to higher-end computing. I'm also personally hoping that Continual Compute will also be the eventual death of cloud service programs, given how certain companies want to treat their cloud services in recent years.
Yup and then you have additional lag from the wireless controller and the HDMI-to-TV which is always variable. "America just needs better internet" people will say, but sorry but C is a constant!
I like MS's approach where XCloud is a feature on something you're already paying for (Game Pass) so it's more acceptable when it's less ideal.
Oh boy! More Ben!!! Thanks Ben for more Ben!
35:15 well i wasn't expecting that, well played Sir
Americium was first sinthesized in a nuclear reactor by Glenn T. Seaborg in 1944, so its named after the country of its first appearance, not discovery since its not a naturally occuring element.
So Bud's going through his Terrible Two's
Guess that's not just a human thing
"We'll radiate you, we'll ra-dee-ate you, when you shop Menaaarddds!"
You should really clip that stadia controller bit dave jones style. Will be a popular video for sure
Quick tip for tying a knot on a needle and thread. Wrap the end around the needle and pull it through.
Nice work
Sounds like Bud is in his teenage years. They get needy and more chaotic for a while.
45 minutes of *comfy*
So Google now allows to switch stadia controller into a bluetooth mode! Which is a great news and it gives a second life to the controller. Kudos to Google.
2:11 Office Olympics is such a great episode
The problem with those led bulbs is if one led goes out then the light dies. You just figure out with one is bad and wrap a thin wire around the blown one to bridge it and the bulb works again
Wishbone was cancelled in 1998 after 3 seasons. They must have got a discount on the merchandising in 99
Thanks for your awesome content! (From a fellow Wisconsinite)
The LED bulbs like that actually run the LEDs in series, not parallel, so when one fails the entire light bulb fails... So most of the time if one of those lights fail, it is just one of the individual LEDs.
33:00 man the tabs are something you would find on some 80's G.I. Joe vehicles
>"This can't be THAT radioactive otherwise they wouldn't let you buy it at Menards"
Did you hear what you just said?
Heh. Remember the Radioactive Boy Scout? David Hahn. He built a homemade nuclear breeder reactor in a potting shed in his back yard in the mid 1990's. The materials used were all things you could buy from your local stores. It's an interesting story.
need you one of them fancy Big Clive Xray devices that lets you see on the inside of stuff (big hammer)
Uncle Ben can be the first electro-comedian.
Reduce, Re-use, Recycle.
I think Repair should be included but that's part or re-use I guess or recycle for component salvalge.
I'm kinda on a repair kick for the new year, repairing kids toys and rc cars mostly.
i torn down one of those fire detectors and i use the weird buzzer with a signal generator to make sounds. it's pretty fun
Were you not getting a measurement on the Sega batteries because there was a conformal coating on the board that needed to be scraped off to make contact?
That Anna Faris joke is kicking my ass
Google is releasing a firmware upgrade for the stadia controller to allow generic bluetooth use I heard.
Edit: I see, already mentioned. If only Google had asked you about the speed of light first :P
This was my opinion too, I'm still trying to get better latency with standard gaming. Few people know what it was like to play games on lan, netcode isn't even designed for it anymore.
I laughed so hard everytime Google spoke about their negative latency tech.
already released
We have a mini component hifi thing that the tuner has a battery backup I think it was a cr2032 that is directly soldered on the board for the preset and still holds a charge today. That thing was bought on 83 and last used about 2003 or something.
Those LEDs probably still work. It would be great if you did something with them (or whatever junk you have) for Earth Day.
Damn now I have Duck Tales in my head.
Your imagination can take you anywhere!
Bud needs a friend.
@BenHeckHacks Would you go as far as to say the Stadia controller is well over engineered? I can only assume that thing cost Google a lot to manufacture, and they were basically giving them away for the longest time. It really does show how much of a passion project Stadia was though. It will be missed :(
I'll miss it too, especially because I mostly used it for my kids and they loved that they could just go from streaming youtube or netflix to playing games very seamlessly (without needing an adult to switch inputs on the TV or something), and I didn't have to worry about them messing up a console or scratching discs, etc. It also worked super well for me on fiber optic (like I could hardly tell it wasn't a local console experience), but I tried it at my nephew's house who lives in a rural area and the network was just not up to snuff and it made it frustrating. It was a niche product, but I'd say very well implemented. Also, the controller is my favorite of all the controllers I've used in my life. Glad they get a new life with the bluetooth patch.
@@LarsSveen I played the hell out of Red Dead Redemption 2 on cable internet and had a great experience too. No real lag to speak of... definitely sad to see it go. It was destined to fail though, since everyone (including tech news sites) shit all over it immediately and didn't give it a chance. Super cool of Google to release the Bluetooth patch and to refund the hardware and game purchases!
You know it's a long video when Ben makes the same joke twice :D
25:30 Yeah, those Maxxell 2032s are seriously legit, they last way beyond their expected lifespan.
35:15 well i wasn't expecting that, well played Sir😝😝
C=2πr. Also Google has since provided a method for enabling bluetooth on the controller
I did enjoyed.
They have the ability to switch the bluetooth on now on the Stadia website now.
The insides of that Stadia controller looks a lot like the 8BitDo Ultimate with hall effect sticks. Weird.
Ben there is a new update firmware not sure if out or. Or yet. But it will let you use it as a normal usb or Bluetooth handheld controller. Might want to look into that.
There are C-shaped needles for this kind of work
Thanks for making me spit my brew out at that controller abuse
My kitchen timer is a tad weird, being it has a numpad for putting the time in.
It may be blind (lcd got grilled by the sun at a flea market) but it still works!
Hey ben, EA manufactured their own cartridges (actually interesting story). So you can say it was EA using cost reduced parts
It should be the 4 R's. Reduce, Reuse, Repair, and Recycle
Nice.
I've lived in my new house for more than five years and all the lamps that have insurance bulbs, but I've easily gone through 20-30 LED bulbs in the same time. I have found that the IKEA brand LED bulbs are by far the most reliable - even over Crea and Sylvania.
Hahahaha I lost it at the car sceen
I have a feeling my NES Zelda saves will still be good well after the earth is blown apart by our sun becoming a red giant.
I've had the same experience with all my battery-backed NES carts; every one of them from childhood still works to this day and have never been opened. We should reconvene in 2 millenia to confirm our calculations.
I had to change the battery on one of my Ruby Sapphire emerald (gen 3?) Pokemon games.
That's not actually a capacitive dropper in the LED light bulb at 6:32. If you take a closer look at the circuitry, the capacitor is after the bridge rectifier, acting as a smoothing capacitor to reduce flicker (the resistor is just a discharge resistor for that cap to ensure that the light goes out quickly when the power is cut). You need an AC voltage to use a capacitive dropper (as it relies on capacitive reactance, which is not a DC concept), and the capacitor must also be in series with the rest of the circuit (thus it would be nonpolar and be placed before the bridge rectifier).
The actual voltage dropper is that IC (the one you called a regulator). It's essentially a constant current regulator, working to drop whatever voltage difference there is between the smoothed, rectified DC supply voltage (~170 VDC in the USA) and the voltage drop of the LED string.
"Oh it isn't that radioactive. Otherwise, they wouldn't let you buy it at Menard's"
Heh. Go look up 'The Radioactive Boyscout'.
24:58
"32. lick it. good 👍." lmfaoo i love this channel
Poor Bud. Just wants attention from his huuumaaaan.
Love these videos even though I have no idea what pop culture references you're making 90% of the time
i think you know already, Google enabled wireless bluetooth via update.