Na, they are changing to bobble heads and hollow vacuum mold figures. They got rid of the kid's meal toys when the U.S. government demonized the clown.
@@guerrillaradio9953 I had always been under the impression that the prop 65 warnings required any product sold in california to be tested for carcinogens, or else have to carry the label. And most of the warnings you see are from companies that just couldn't be bothered.
@@DerrangedGadgeteer It's another one of those things (like everything governments do) that is started for all good reasons, because of lead paint including on toys with no disclosure, etc. Then (like coming in with a SWAT team to arrest people on a farm selling raw milk) the power trip whackadoodles in the police and alphabet agencies (from federal all the way down to county) go full fascist. Don't go full fascist. Or like, AT ALL fascist.
@@DerrangedGadgeteer I wish companies would grow some balls and stop selling their products in California until California repeals that stupid nonsense.
Back in the day I didn't imagine Menards would be the de facto cyberpunk aesthetic but now you can get a free computer using the rebates from the bag sale
@@nobuyukinyuu I still haven't received any rebates back from menards. I've submitted multiple to home depot and got all them. Home depot keeps it hush hush but they usually match menards rebates.
There's a possibility it was updating stock apps is why it's sooo laggy at first, and the battery life fell so quickly. I recommend plugging it in and leaving it for a few hours.
Yet, i belive it can give joy and availability to things like UA-cam - like an entry lvl thing. I remember having portable sad dvd players for the car. This is kinda better.. Just for movies it would be ok.
Reminds me of myself getting one of those cheapy discounter handhelds (the ones with tetris block sized "pixels") instead of a GameBoy when I was young. I can relate :)
I bought this exact same tablet back in 2012 while visiting China, for a comparable price even. It ran Android 4 back then, which it did surprisingly well, considering the prize! Crazy to see this still being sold almost 9 years later though! They probably just upgraded the ARM chip to a newer revision...
1:34 Android Go Edition is a light version of Android that is missing several features. If a device has that, then it's a low-end device. That's why it has all of those "Go" apps. 4:06 That looks like it has the default AOSP square icon shape instead of the Google Pixel round icon shape that I prefer. It also has the AOSP teal accent colour instead of the Pixel blue! 4:33 Yeah, I can tell that the Chinese ODM that made it were lazy with their customisations, as I believe the volume keys on the nav bar are part of the Android sources provided by MediaTek and Rockchip. I enjoy your humour.
it's official: Ben has gone full Ashens mode. he's even on the very same side of the couch. also this thing reeks of Chinese knockoff a million miles away.
My son got one of these for Christmas from his grandmother. I set it up, and actually ended up buying one for myself because I owned no Android devices, yet I support them for my job, so it was well worth the $30 just to have a device I can troubleshoot with handy.
That's like the $20 RC helicopters my dad and I got from Harbor Freight one year on black Friday. They were actually pretty awesome stuff we went back for the next couple of years to get more since the batteries didn't last too long.
@19:25 When you mentioned the Raspberry Pi it struck me that this thing is still cheaper than the cheapest Raspberry Pi 4 Model B - and comes with a charger, a case and even a keyboard.
I would be extremely surprised if your 50 pin LCD wasn't just the standard pinout. I've got a whole box full of 40 pin and 50 pin LCDs and drivers and they're all interchangeable (not 40 to 50 or versa-vice, but all the 40 pin LCDs work with all the 40 pin drivers, and all the 50 pin LCDs work with the 50 pin drivers that I have).
I think the Raspberry Pi was originally designed to be a cheap computer for use in developing nations. Since I use a Pi4 as my main PC, it works really well for that.
@@ArrowRaider You might be right. I thought I remember him saying this in regards to one of the newer console controllers that use USB-C, but I'm way to lazy to do the research, so I'll take the "L". :)
The Rockchip RK3126C contained within this tablet implements the same 32-bit ARM Cortex A7 MPCore as the Raspberry Pi 2 does. Both in a quad-core configuration. By no means powerful, but able to handle simple tasks. Though I feel sorry for anyone in the undeveloped world who gets their hands on this device and upon the first time accessing a network gets treated to advertising sucking up all their bandwidth.
the best thing to do with these really inexpensive old tablets is to use them in the outdoors. some of the older tablets actually have a real HDMI output. great to use with a external video device for the holidays and Halloween. if you scale down everything then it absolutely would work perfectly as a temperature control or HVAC device you could just mount on the wall. but a video doorbell that's cheaper than a regular video doorbell really is kind of the ticket here.
Walmart's 7in ONN tablet is $28 and often $12 on sale. Comparable specs with Android GO 10 (Android for devices with 2GB of RAM or less). Using it now!! The Walmart tablet is quick and responsive. It has become my daily driver for around the house usage, email, YT, Google voice, streaming, music, etc.
My favorite CA prop 65 warning was one I had to post when I worked at a dispensary. It read as follows: “CA Prop 65 Notice: Smoking marijuana may expose you to marijuana smoke, which is known to the state of California to cause cancer, birth directs and reproductive harm.”
It should be simple enough to accelerate it so that it would go as fast (discounting air resistance) as a top-of-the-line desktop computer -- 9.8 metres per second per second (or 32 feet per second per second if you prefer Imperial measurements).
8:00 Google be like: "Oh you tapped the search bar? Please sign in, enter your phone number, birth certificate number, SIN number, and deposit blood sample on the Google DNA blood sample tray."
About 10 years ago I had a similarly cheap 7" Android tablet. I swear it had the exact same housing as yours, right down to the plastic screen. I forget the brand, but it wasn't Sylvania. It had similarly snappy performance to yours.
It's a decent tablet for basic needs. I got similar ones. The ones with charger port also can use USB charger, but are nice to keep using the keyboard.
I've got a couple of the last generation version of these tablets by RCA and Memorex, both destroyed their flash with excessive writes as far as I can tell. If someone finds an adapter to connect the screen and digitizer to Raspberry Pi I'd be interested, assuming it isn't more than $10.
Re: this being a generic tablet layout/screen. The internals look very similar to a budget android tablet I got like 8 years ago (a coby kyros). The board shape is the same with a long rectangle sticking out the bottom to connect to the (generic) LCD ribbon cable, and the external Wi-Fi chip and antenna soldered to the upper corner in the same place. I haven't opened any other tablets so maybe these are just common patterns but I figured I'd share that it's very similar to a totally different brand :)
Wow, I was expecting an ancient overstock tablet with android 4! Android Go is actually a lite version of Android 8 Google developed to replace 4 (cuz of security and stuff)Apparently, from 5 up to 7 Android was too heavy for low-end devices Edit: hey you beat me to it
@@computernerdinside based on what I have seen in the tech demo I do not think you should trust it with your house because it will lag and your house will burn down before it tells you that your house is on fire.
it would be cool to see that screen connected to a rpi, I'm all for that video! even better if you manage to recover the touchscreen controller and connect it as well to it
In a tablet like that you need to close out every app that's open before opening a new app. The memory gets used up really quickly. If I do that with mine it's actually a very usable inexpensive device.
That might be nice for fishing with my son. It kinda sucks doing all the work of loading the boat up with fishing stuff, towing the boat out to the water, launching it, parking the trailer then going fishing to fish for only 1 hour while it take almost 2 to get it ready and put it up with drive time. My son is awesome and loves going fishing but when he not pulling in fish after fish he’s board and I really don’t want to give my 3 year old my iPhone to drop in the water so he can watch some toons. I could use something like it. My boat is a 14’ and kinda small so stuff can get in the water a little to easy if you know what I mean.
I'd be tempted to put the tablet and a slab of expanded polystyrene into a zip-lock bag (so floaty and waterproof) -- dunno whether the touchscreen would still be usable, or the speaker audible, tho... :-)
@@theskett that’s a good idea. I could make it prop up too. I have blue tooth speaker on my boat and sound is really good. I have some plywood left over from rebuilding my boat and that marine grade plywood is expensive and really good wood. Thank you! I just need it to entertain a 3 year old between catching fish when it is slow so I can keep fishing too.
Love this; but beware that (IIRC) there's no BlueTooth on the tablet that Ben reviewed. But yes, BT to speaker(s) would definitely fix the sound issue :-)
Last year I was at Walmart and they their store brand ONN a Tablet for 40 bucks. I bought it. It also had Android Go. I knew it wasn't going to be anything great about it, I bought it to be used as a Keypad for my Smart Home and works just fine for that.
I thought they had a good reputation for lighting, I just checked the logo against a Sylvania LED bathroom light I plan to fit when the days get longer (unless the current one fails first)
@@samuell.foxton4177 I got their color changing LED bulbs and truth be told they are awesome! Far superior to hue and other cheap ones I've tried. Seeing the tablet, though, I suspect Sylvania may simply brand and redistributes wholesale stuff. Who knows?
On further reading, the orange Sylvania (North America) and green Sylvania (Europe etc.) are different companies, but originated making light bulbs some 100 years ago. I'm fairly sure the European one just makes LED and fluorescent lights now
I swear you’re shorting pins together on that display ribbon, wouldn’t that damage the drivers? Or do you have some sort of probe with insulation everywhere but the very tip?
No BGA soldering on SoC makes it look like a '90 circuit board, however with only 1GB of RAM you can't go much far . $29 they worth just for the spare parts you can get from it (not to mention the cover/keyboard), or for "creative" use.
Yeah it was part self deprecating joke, part real. Some people just like the stuff they had as a kid and genuinely enjoyed, some just have a fetishism for stuff they never grew around and don't actually have experienced, but feels nice to them to think about it as cool for some reason. "It's totally 8 bit art, like the NES" except it actually look better than some PS1 game art. Said that, I honestly loathed the Atari VCS despite having played it as a kid the NES was so much better, even when >80% of NES games also being awful, Pitfall 2 just cannot beat SMB or even the simple Ice Climber. The period I grew in people was in between those 2 and the more tech savvy had one of the 8 bit computers, mostly low end MSXs, and Speccy clones.
I bought an android tablet for my dad five or so years ago for him to play music off of. The whole thing, charger and all, showed up to my door for $20. It did it's job though, being a music player with big, easy to read buttons.
One of the things I was using tablets like this for was as a at printer display for my OctoPrint controllers. OctoDroid would work for this. Other options today. This looks like pretty much the same platform as the Archos tablets that were available at MicroCenter, which didn't come with the keyboard.
I didn't have much money growing up and bought many cheap Android tablets. The charging port is there because without a doubt 100% of the time. The micro usb port will become loose, stop working after a while, and require resoldering to fix.
it might be a quad core, but I don't think the cores are up to much. Though "the next billion" sounds like "markets in developing countries" to me. Also, it practically IS hooked up to a Raspberry Pi.
The battery life is recalculated to be more accurate. So if you're using a lot of the CPU power it will drain the battery faster and give you a lower time whereas if the device is idling then the battery life time will go up.
There's a lot more in there than I expected. I've seen much smaller ARM chips in cheap junk tablets and the RAM they must be using some old stock to have 4 chips for 1GB! I rescued one of these screens with a controller off eBay so with a bit of 3d printing I have a mini monitor with HDMI/VGA/Composite. Not using the touch screen digitiser though.
EDIT: 17:24 Insides (PCB & layout) look pretty similar if not identical to the generic tablet described below (I believe the PCB was made by Gigabyte). ----------------- If it is anything like the generic tablet my dad had a while back...... ----------------- It was purchased for about the same price from Office Depot, and was also billed as having 8GB of internal storage. However, the OS took up part of this storage so there was only 5 to 6 GB available. Usually the OS is on a separate part of the nand and not included in the internal storage capacitiy (eg. it is provisioned as 10GB [8GB storage, 1-2 GB OS]) ----------------- But I digress.... Just get ready for the "Go" boot-screen to "go" into an infinite boot loop due to file system errors on the internal nand. That generic tablet used a non-standard boot loader that couldn't be changed without flashing a new image using the World Cup flasher software (AMLOGIC) over usb. Moreover, if you enabled usb debugging you could run e2fsck on the internal nand after using asb to open a remote shell.....however, I decided to disable it when it wasn't needed. That was a big mistake.....it is now a warm brick.
They have to, Sylvania is a company that sells a lot of stuff in Canada, and in Canada it is mandatory to have bilingual text on everything. (French & English)
Yeah maybe do a video about those type of lcds.. I've got maybe 10-15 of these types of screens with 40 pins cables from random different tablets.. Maybe give a general idea of how they are working / pinouts / options to drive them? They would be useful as a control panel and such.. Great video as always thanks!
I think I have that same tablet. Got it as a door buster for $20 at an electronics store that opened in Brooklyn in… must’ve been 2004? Looks the same on the outside, with the same specs (1GB RAM, 8GB storage).
The pinout of the panel is pretty much like every 50 pin parallel lcd out there for example AT070TN92. I've been working on these stuff before. Just buy a universal 50 pin lcd with correct resolution firmware, plug it in and it will work
@@BenHeckHacks When I went to the store they had a large fixture full of bags right inside the front door. If you need stuff for your house can't beat 15% off.
Had this, MTK chip iirc, and once you update, you get a bunch of bluetooth errors, only useful if you plan on flashing own firmware, and its made by em by a cheap chinese company, theres a few dozen clones very similar or the same to this out there
*yep was rockchip, but yeah doesnt have bluetooth, so the daemon flips out, after update, but yeah, look up the fccid, and look up similar tablets, youll find they mostly all come from same warehouse
Ashens voice sounds funny, and he has a new couch.
My first thought too :'D
Ashens American cousin. Lol
and a cat.
about time he got a new couch...
Heckens
This is how I imagine McDonald's Happy Meal toys in five years.
Na, they are changing to bobble heads and hollow vacuum mold figures. They got rid of the kid's meal toys when the U.S. government demonized the clown.
And in 6 years, a barely-covered scandal about it recording video and sending it to a database in China.
darknetdiaries.com/episode/2/
Ben: "Look Bud, I found this for only 29 dollars!"
Bud: "29 dollars for a cardboard box? Seems kinda expensive."
"Digital Android Tablet", hmm I'll take the analog one.
Analog Android tablets are just so much warmer than those new-fangled digital ones.
nah Mechanical Android Tablets are where its at
I'm guessing an analog tablet is an abacus.
@@BrightSpark You kidding me? You can't even tell the difference between an analog tablet and a digital one. It's all snake oil, bro.
@@theofficialczex1708 Look man, I just like my modular tablets. You can do some weird shit with those.
>eats receipt
>sneezes
>steals box
>refuses to elaborate
Bud is an absolute Chad
"The state of California has determined that air can kill you."
Well yeah, have you SEEN the air in California!?
They now even have to put CA Prop 65 warnings on, get this: model airplanes. Because something about wood dust. And reasons.
Actually, yes, the last time I was in L.A. I could see the air - or rather, couldn't see through it.
@@guerrillaradio9953 I had always been under the impression that the prop 65 warnings required any product sold in california to be tested for carcinogens, or else have to carry the label. And most of the warnings you see are from companies that just couldn't be bothered.
@@DerrangedGadgeteer It's another one of those things (like everything governments do) that is started for all good reasons, because of lead paint including on toys with no disclosure, etc. Then (like coming in with a SWAT team to arrest people on a farm selling raw milk) the power trip whackadoodles in the police and alphabet agencies (from federal all the way down to county) go full fascist. Don't go full fascist. Or like, AT ALL fascist.
@@DerrangedGadgeteer I wish companies would grow some balls and stop selling their products in California until California repeals that stupid nonsense.
Did I see a puff of magic smoke at 33:17 ?
Back in the day I didn't imagine Menards would be the de facto cyberpunk aesthetic but now you can get a free computer using the rebates from the bag sale
Wait what? Do tell!
Bag sale is an immediate 15% off, not the normal 11% rebate.
@@Spice no freaking way. I haven't even checked my receipts this week because i never expect that to happen. What's menards without their rebates?
@@nobuyukinyuu I still haven't received any rebates back from menards. I've submitted multiple to home depot and got all them. Home depot keeps it hush hush but they usually match menards rebates.
There's a possibility it was updating stock apps is why it's sooo laggy at first, and the battery life fell so quickly. I recommend plugging it in and leaving it for a few hours.
Imagine a poor kid receiving this from his grandparents for Christmas quickly realizing it isn't the ipad he wished for
Yet, i belive it can give joy and availability to things like UA-cam - like an entry lvl thing. I remember having portable sad dvd players for the car. This is kinda better.. Just for movies it would be ok.
Could be worse "build your own iPad from wood"
Reminds me of myself getting one of those cheapy discounter handhelds (the ones with tetris block sized "pixels") instead of a GameBoy when I was young. I can relate :)
@@jacobdavidcunningham1440 Hey that sounds cool.
I use to get tablets like this i ran Gameboy emulator on it and got hours of fun out of pokemon red
I bought this exact same tablet back in 2012 while visiting China, for a comparable price even. It ran Android 4 back then, which it did surprisingly well, considering the prize! Crazy to see this still being sold almost 9 years later though! They probably just upgraded the ARM chip to a newer revision...
Not since 2004 has someone uttered the phrase " That is so pimp."
Am I the only person in the comments who appreciates Ben's hyperactive cat?
You can get a similar cat for 89p at Poundland.
Pray for Ben that he doesn't get the 'cat scratch fever' that Ted Nugent has long warned us about.
Yeah that fever can quickly make you loose your mind and money, if you're not careful. 🖖
1:34 Android Go Edition is a light version of Android that is missing several features. If a device has that, then it's a low-end device. That's why it has all of those "Go" apps.
4:06 That looks like it has the default AOSP square icon shape instead of the Google Pixel round icon shape that I prefer. It also has the AOSP teal accent colour instead of the Pixel blue!
4:33 Yeah, I can tell that the Chinese ODM that made it were lazy with their customisations, as I believe the volume keys on the nav bar are part of the Android sources provided by MediaTek and Rockchip.
I enjoy your humour.
it's official: Ben has gone full Ashens mode. he's even on the very same side of the couch. also this thing reeks of Chinese knockoff a million miles away.
Chinese yes, knockoff no just a pile of junk glued together
I thought the same
Yeah right
Now Ashens needs a cat to destroy the cheap consumer goods.
@@jaykoerner speaking of "glued", go looking for Dave (EEVBlog) tearing down the worst tablet ever. THAT is embarrassing.
And cringy. And funny.
My son got one of these for Christmas from his grandmother. I set it up, and actually ended up buying one for myself because I owned no Android devices, yet I support them for my job, so it was well worth the $30 just to have a device I can troubleshoot with handy.
That's like the $20 RC helicopters my dad and I got from Harbor Freight one year on black Friday. They were actually pretty awesome stuff we went back for the next couple of years to get more since the batteries didn't last too long.
These Menards adventures are beginning to look like David Jones' dumpster diving videos.
Ben: searches for sloths and complains that it's slow
Actually he searched for "slofs", if my ears are to be believed.
I still have to find a "relatively" low budget android device that doesn't have that weird keyboard delay.
@@IntegerOfDoom modern software*
Android Go? More like Android Slow.
More like Android Gon't amirite
More like Android Go throw it in the recycling bin
Wow I read this in Ben's voice..
Android Wait
I had a phone with android go. I hated it. UA-cam took forever to load I ended up installing regular UA-cam
who else saw the zero ohm resistor smoke when Ben was dragging his probe across the pins XD @33:16
@19:25 When you mentioned the Raspberry Pi it struck me that this thing is still cheaper than the cheapest Raspberry Pi 4 Model B - and comes with a charger, a case and even a keyboard.
"That's me! YEEHA BACON 'N TRUCKS!" :D I love it
I see Ashens got a new couch!
And voice! And hands!
I would be extremely surprised if your 50 pin LCD wasn't just the standard pinout. I've got a whole box full of 40 pin and 50 pin LCDs and drivers and they're all interchangeable (not 40 to 50 or versa-vice, but all the 40 pin LCDs work with all the 40 pin drivers, and all the 50 pin LCDs work with the 50 pin drivers that I have).
Yeah. DE was in the right place, just missing the sync. I should get an adapter.
I think the Raspberry Pi was originally designed to be a cheap computer for use in developing nations.
Since I use a Pi4 as my main PC, it works really well for that.
The Chinese, protecting headphone jack from the beginning.
They have enough EMF over there already.
2:15 I like how the button to enable features to help with vision impairment is a tiny little button in the corner
I'm watching this video on a nexus 2013 tablet! Excellent tablet. It's served me well over the years.🙂
Indeed. I don't really bother keeping mine charged these days. Used to use it to read internet in bed.
I still can't believe Ben prefers micro over USB-C, especially when I just watched him try to insert the micro in backwards...twice.
He said he prefers mini-b, not micro-b. AFAIK
@@ArrowRaider You might be right. I thought I remember him saying this in regards to one of the newer console controllers that use USB-C, but I'm way to lazy to do the research, so I'll take the "L". :)
@@ArrowRaider that still doesn't make sense!
@@onometre mini b is MUCH better than micro, lasts longer than usb c from a cable side as well
My goodness, Bud, you've grown!
The specs for this seem similar to the Nexus 7 2012 that's collecting dust in my house
It likely is. There are only two real reasons for these.
1. E-book reader.
2. Strip for parts for other projects.
"Why does everything need to be hooked to a Raspberry Pi?"
I'm literally looking at Raspberry Pi touch screens in another tab wtf
They are the most commonly known ARM units.
8:41 "Let's search for something! What does the internet love?"
Shows himself on the reflex 😂
The Rockchip RK3126C contained within this tablet implements the same 32-bit ARM Cortex A7 MPCore as the Raspberry Pi 2 does. Both in a quad-core configuration. By no means powerful, but able to handle simple tasks. Though I feel sorry for anyone in the undeveloped world who gets their hands on this device and upon the first time accessing a network gets treated to advertising sucking up all their bandwidth.
Part of the reason it is super slow could be that its running all the first boot initialization stuff
Exactly. Get HE keeps typing away and backing up the que. Never saw a new machine not up before. Maybe if he read the directions.
the best thing to do with these really inexpensive old tablets is to use them in the outdoors.
some of the older tablets actually have a real HDMI output. great to use with a external video device for the holidays and Halloween.
if you scale down everything then it absolutely would work perfectly as a temperature control or HVAC device you could just mount on the wall.
but a video doorbell that's cheaper than a regular video doorbell really is kind of the ticket here.
You know, it is actually kind of hard to find mini portable keyboards that have a USB interface. Most are BT or have a proprietary wireless dongle.
Walmart's 7in ONN tablet is $28 and often $12 on sale. Comparable specs with Android GO 10 (Android for devices with 2GB of RAM or less). Using it now!! The Walmart tablet is quick and responsive. It has become my daily driver for around the house usage, email, YT, Google voice, streaming, music, etc.
My favorite CA prop 65 warning was one I had to post when I worked at a dispensary. It read as follows:
“CA Prop 65 Notice: Smoking marijuana may expose you to marijuana smoke, which is known to the state of California to cause cancer, birth directs and reproductive harm.”
Came for the product review, stayed for the comedy. 😂🙃🤣
with micro usb being as bad as it is, that secondary charger is genius
Although those tiny round plugs break just as easy, but at least it's backup.
It should be simple enough to accelerate it so that it would go as fast (discounting air resistance) as a top-of-the-line desktop computer -- 9.8 metres per second per second (or 32 feet per second per second if you prefer Imperial measurements).
8:00 Google be like:
"Oh you tapped the search bar? Please sign in, enter your phone number, birth certificate number, SIN number, and deposit blood sample on the Google DNA blood sample tray."
Yay! Bud!
holy shit you're alive? i thought you were dead since you stopped showing me how electronics worked....
Loved your potato chip video! Jeez that was 3 years ago, when are you planning a new video?!
Hope all is well man!
About 10 years ago I had a similarly cheap 7" Android tablet. I swear it had the exact same housing as yours, right down to the plastic screen. I forget the brand, but it wasn't Sylvania. It had similarly snappy performance to yours.
This looks exactly like the RCA branded tablets Wal-Mart was selling a couple years ago. The weird wall wart with barrel plug was the same.
It’s a pro scan... they make cheap stuff...
It's a decent tablet for basic needs. I got similar ones. The ones with charger port also can use USB charger, but are nice to keep using the keyboard.
I've got a couple of the last generation version of these tablets by RCA and Memorex, both destroyed their flash with excessive writes as far as I can tell. If someone finds an adapter to connect the screen and digitizer to Raspberry Pi I'd be interested, assuming it isn't more than $10.
Same, if anyone knows where to get boardsfor these cheap tablet screens let me know.
Re: this being a generic tablet layout/screen. The internals look very similar to a budget android tablet I got like 8 years ago (a coby kyros). The board shape is the same with a long rectangle sticking out the bottom to connect to the (generic) LCD ribbon cable, and the external Wi-Fi chip and antenna soldered to the upper corner in the same place. I haven't opened any other tablets so maybe these are just common patterns but I figured I'd share that it's very similar to a totally different brand :)
Wow, I was expecting an ancient overstock tablet with android 4!
Android Go is actually a lite version of Android 8 Google developed to replace 4 (cuz of security and stuff)Apparently, from 5 up to 7 Android was too heavy for low-end devices
Edit: hey you beat me to it
I bought this same tablet about 7yrs ago for almost a hundred dollars. It was horrendous then. I can only imagine what it's like now.
Sylvania still around making electronics!? Family had their old CRT cabinet and VCR back in the 80s. That I saw of them, they make light bulbs.
YES! Sylvania! OOOH, does it come with some lightbulbs?
Come to think of it, this tab might make an okay smarthome control panel.
@@computernerdinside based on what I have seen in the tech demo I do not think you should trust it with your house because it will lag and your house will burn down before it tells you that your house is on fire.
it would be cool to see that screen connected to a rpi, I'm all for that video! even better if you manage to recover the touchscreen controller and connect it as well to it
In a tablet like that you need to close out every app that's open before opening a new app. The memory gets used up really quickly. If I do that with mine it's actually a very usable inexpensive device.
That might be nice for fishing with my son. It kinda sucks doing all the work of loading the boat up with fishing stuff, towing the boat out to the water, launching it, parking the trailer then going fishing to fish for only 1 hour while it take almost 2 to get it ready and put it up with drive time. My son is awesome and loves going fishing but when he not pulling in fish after fish he’s board and I really don’t want to give my 3 year old my iPhone to drop in the water so he can watch some toons. I could use something like it. My boat is a 14’ and kinda small so stuff can get in the water a little to easy if you know what I mean.
I'd be tempted to put the tablet and a slab of expanded polystyrene into a zip-lock bag (so floaty and waterproof) -- dunno whether the touchscreen would still be usable, or the speaker audible, tho... :-)
@@theskett that’s a good idea. I could make it prop up too. I have blue tooth speaker on my boat and sound is really good. I have some plywood left over from rebuilding my boat and that marine grade plywood is expensive and really good wood. Thank you! I just need it to entertain a 3 year old between catching fish when it is slow so I can keep fishing too.
Love this; but beware that (IIRC) there's no BlueTooth on the tablet that Ben reviewed. But yes, BT to speaker(s) would definitely fix the sound issue :-)
Last year I was at Walmart and they their store brand ONN a Tablet for 40 bucks. I bought it. It also had Android Go. I knew it wasn't going to be anything great about it, I bought it to be used as a Keypad for my Smart Home and works just fine for that.
I'm pretty sure I have the exact same one, but it was baught at Menards like 5 years ago.
it ran a differnt rockchip and was single or dual core
Sylvania is the brand on my smart lightbulbs. They feel 200% more sketchy now >.>
I thought they had a good reputation for lighting, I just checked the logo against a Sylvania LED bathroom light I plan to fit when the days get longer (unless the current one fails first)
@@samuell.foxton4177 I got their color changing LED bulbs and truth be told they are awesome! Far superior to hue and other cheap ones I've tried. Seeing the tablet, though, I suspect Sylvania may simply brand and redistributes wholesale stuff. Who knows?
On further reading, the orange Sylvania (North America) and green Sylvania (Europe etc.) are different companies, but originated making light bulbs some 100 years ago. I'm fairly sure the European one just makes LED and fluorescent lights now
33:18 magic smoke released?
Yes there is smoke coming from the resistor
You can even see it leaving a little black dot afterwards
I swear you’re shorting pins together on that display ribbon, wouldn’t that damage the drivers? Or do you have some sort of probe with insulation everywhere but the very tip?
The wall adapter is to allow you to use the keyboard and charge it at the same time, right? The microusb is otherwise occupied
No BGA soldering on SoC makes it look like a '90 circuit board, however with only 1GB of RAM you can't go much far .
$29 they worth just for the spare parts you can get from it (not to mention the cover/keyboard), or for "creative" use.
I'm pretty sure i had this exact tablet in 2013 running android 4 jellybean.
I also have a tablet from 2013 very similar to it, especially inside. Mine has the Rockchip RK3026 CPU.
@@RaduTek Did yours by any chance have a mini hdmi output?
@@scellyyt No, it didn't have HDMI. I think it had 512 MB of RAM and 2 GB of storage.
@@RaduTek Same specs as mine, then. I may make a quick video on it so we can compare.
Similar to the RCA tablet
This would be excellent as an MQTT based remote control for your home automation
ISTR some LCD panels derive HSYNC and VSYNC from the gaps in the active pixel pulses.
Ben: Millennials are obsessed with the past
also Ben: Immediately clicks on Ancient Pyramid Construction.
This man is kneeling in front of his couch doing an Android tablet video.. the dedication..
I just unlocked my game and watch, looking forward to seeing your programming video for it.
"millennials are obsessed with the past"
Next Up: Atari 2600 Junior Single Chip - Ben Heck Hacks
Uhh huhhh.......
Yeah it was part self deprecating joke, part real. Some people just like the stuff they had as a kid and genuinely enjoyed, some just have a fetishism for stuff they never grew around and don't actually have experienced, but feels nice to them to think about it as cool for some reason. "It's totally 8 bit art, like the NES" except it actually look better than some PS1 game art.
Said that, I honestly loathed the Atari VCS despite having played it as a kid the NES was so much better, even when >80% of NES games also being awful, Pitfall 2 just cannot beat SMB or even the simple Ice Climber. The period I grew in people was in between those 2 and the more tech savvy had one of the 8 bit computers, mostly low end MSXs, and Speccy clones.
@@trinidad17wow you spent alot of time in this
I bought an android tablet for my dad five or so years ago for him to play music off of. The whole thing, charger and all, showed up to my door for $20. It did it's job though, being a music player with big, easy to read buttons.
might want to go into developer settings and turn off all them animation effects.
also in keyboard settings, turn off all those auto-correct and search suggestion 'features'
For 30 bucks, it'd make a good customizable clock or notepad. I still use my original iPad as a pretty kick-ass LCARS-themed clock.
It could even be a great second screen for a gaming or work computer. It doesn't need to do any video processing, just display a sent feed
One of the things I was using tablets like this for was as a at printer display for my OctoPrint controllers. OctoDroid would work for this. Other options today. This looks like pretty much the same platform as the Archos tablets that were available at MicroCenter, which didn't come with the keyboard.
I didn't have much money growing up and bought many cheap Android tablets. The charging port is there because without a doubt 100% of the time. The micro usb port will become loose, stop working after a while, and require resoldering to fix.
I love how you are shocked it was priced at 34 but rang up at 29. Look at your receipt it says 15% bag sale discount. Amazing how that works out.
hey ben are you gonna make an Atari vcs laptop? or a mini vcs? 👀
The "Shut up, Mr. Olmsted" line made me sit up and blink. Does Ben know I'm watching??
+30 points for Eiffel 65 reference, even if that stays in my head for way too long than it needs to
it might be a quad core, but I don't think the cores are up to much.
Though "the next billion" sounds like "markets in developing countries" to me.
Also, it practically IS hooked up to a Raspberry Pi.
The battery life is recalculated to be more accurate. So if you're using a lot of the CPU power it will drain the battery faster and give you a lower time whereas if the device is idling then the battery life time will go up.
Aww, Bud is so cute. *Makes grabby hands* I want to snug him.
There's a lot more in there than I expected. I've seen much smaller ARM chips in cheap junk tablets and the RAM they must be using some old stock to have 4 chips for 1GB! I rescued one of these screens with a controller off eBay so with a bit of 3d printing I have a mini monitor with HDMI/VGA/Composite. Not using the touch screen digitiser though.
You have the model of the controller?
It looks like you have a "sh*tty electronics" addiction... 😂
Bud as the product presenter assistant definitely made this worth the price of admission alone.
EDIT: 17:24 Insides (PCB & layout) look pretty similar if not identical to the generic tablet described below (I believe the PCB was made by Gigabyte).
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If it is anything like the generic tablet my dad had a while back......
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It was purchased for about the same price from Office Depot, and was also billed as having 8GB of internal storage.
However, the OS took up part of this storage so there was only 5 to 6 GB available.
Usually the OS is on a separate part of the nand and not included in the internal storage capacitiy (eg. it is provisioned as 10GB [8GB storage, 1-2 GB OS])
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But I digress....
Just get ready for the "Go" boot-screen to "go" into an infinite boot loop due to file system errors on the internal nand.
That generic tablet used a non-standard boot loader that couldn't be changed without flashing a new image using the World Cup flasher software (AMLOGIC) over usb.
Moreover, if you enabled usb debugging you could run e2fsck on the internal nand after using asb to open a remote shell.....however, I decided to disable it when it wasn't needed.
That was a big mistake.....it is now a warm brick.
The French translation on the front box is brilliant as well, they must have blown the budget on that one hahaha!!!
They have to, Sylvania is a company that sells a lot of stuff in Canada, and in Canada it is mandatory to have bilingual text on everything. (French & English)
Yeah maybe do a video about those type of lcds.. I've got maybe 10-15 of these types of screens with 40 pins cables from random different tablets.. Maybe give a general idea of how they are working / pinouts / options to drive them? They would be useful as a control panel and such.. Great video as always thanks!
Do more stuff with microcontrollers. The console was very impressive, would be interesting to see what you could do with a slightly more capable mcu.
Might make a nice Mainsail display for my 3D printer, but not much else. Wonder if it could work as a Raspberry Pi display.
I would be very interested in the screen decoding and possible repurposing it.
Thanks.
I think I have that same tablet. Got it as a door buster for $20 at an electronics store that opened in Brooklyn in… must’ve been 2004? Looks the same on the outside, with the same specs (1GB RAM, 8GB storage).
Hey Ben, are you gonna take a look at the new Atari VCS? I heard it's not that bad of a console/computer, for the price.
The pinout of the panel is pretty much like every 50 pin parallel lcd out there for example AT070TN92. I've been working on these stuff before. Just buy a universal 50 pin lcd with correct resolution firmware, plug it in and it will work
Menards is doing their 15% bag sale... WHOOP! I bought my dogs some treats and plan on going back on Friday to buy some more crap I don't need. :)
Just got my bag in the mail WOOT!
@@BenHeckHacks When I went to the store they had a large fixture full of bags right inside the front door. If you need stuff for your house can't beat 15% off.
You could put a Raspberry Pi inside a 3.5" disk drive housing and hide it in a desktop computer for reasons.
Had this, MTK chip iirc, and once you update, you get a bunch of bluetooth errors, only useful if you plan on flashing own firmware, and its made by em by a cheap chinese company, theres a few dozen clones very similar or the same to this out there
*yep was rockchip, but yeah doesnt have bluetooth, so the daemon flips out, after update, but yeah, look up the fccid, and look up similar tablets, youll find they mostly all come from same warehouse
Not your standard andriod bootloader or android either, its android go
3:07 -- and here I thought I was the only one with that still coming into their heads this day and age hahaha. Damn you, Ben!!