Latter-Day Media Live - Wayne May - NEW RESEARCH!
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- Wayne May discusses the Hopewell civilization that lived during the same Book of Mormon timeframe of 500 BC to 400 AD...the research from the Smithsonian and many NON-Mormons also speaks for much more than presented here.
Welcome to Latter-Day Media Live with Wayne May
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Do those people in the room know how lucky they are to have this presented by Wayne May??!! So awesome!
Wayne May lends so much credibility to the Book of Mormon. I'm greatful for all his hard work sadly many members are ignorant of his findings.
Thank you, Wayne. As a convert to the church, I never could see the reality of South and Central America connecting with the Hill Cumorah. This makes so much more sense!!!
Same. I read a bunch of Sorenson's books and articles and while I found them interesting, I could never really make that connection. All it took was one Heartland book and it simply seemed obvious.
As a lifelong member I appreciate that only Joseph and a few of his contemporaries are on record claiming spiritual knowledge of the locations of the BoM. I too fumbled with the idea that Moroni traveled thousands of miles from the Yucatán (where I served my mission) or Guatemala or more south with any of those artifacts, it’s not possible or efficient to go unnoticed unless he was “cloked” per se. I still don’t claim to know where it occurred, but the evidences and parallels are becoming undeniable that it was near or around or close to where the plates were hidden up in the Hill Cumora. I just don’t know where the mountains are or the rivers exactly, a few other things. But, that has no bearing on my spiritual testimony I received myself from God when I was 19 years old. It’s a precious moment that I can’t deny, lest I lose all that I have.
Well, it doesn't make any sense at all, but however you want to hammer things together to make them fit, go for it! Its your choice to be extremely selective with the information you come across
Wayne May is amazing. His work would easily qualify for a PhD. I say this as one with a PhD who was a professor for 27 years and had over 80 PhD and MS/MA students graduate under my advisorship. I have been working with Wayne for several years and become more impressed with his knowledge each day. Wayne is the best scholar on the topic I know and I would give him his well deserved respect and attention. Dr. Kevin Price.
Wayne may didn't study the bible ! The Hebrew Israelites are not Native ( Americans) Genesis 10:6 ( Judges 3:5), Genesis 42:7 ,29-33, Genesis 50:1-11, , Amos 9:7" all black people in fact the whole region was nothing but black people until the White Chaldean led by King Nebuchadnezzar invade the Area and he was back by God and it wasn't just ( Israel) Jeremiah 25th chapter will tell it all
@@jameswinesgreenspunjhs8954 I can tell you Wayne May knows the Bible very well. As a former Bishop and a 40+ year member who studies the Bible, your comments are bases on your own ignorance. I will forward Wayne your very ignorant comments and see if he can stop laughing. I will be talking to Wayne in a few minutes. I suspect he has more important things to do than respond to comments like yours, but I will see what he has to say. We are planning a conference in the Nauvoo area in mid-August and so he is pretty busy right now. We have some very exciting news, but will wait until after our conference to release the findings. The evidence continues to build and it is becoming overwhelmingly strong to those who are not trying to throw rocks at us.
@@price123456789 the great awakening is upon us!
@@jameswinesgreenspunjhs8954...... you and people like you do far more harm to the Christian cause.
How do I ask Wayne a question?
I am a descendant of the Munsee. My mom's maiden name was Munsee.
Your information is so fascinating!
Thank you very much. I have not ever sat for this long to just listen and learn.
I appreciate all your efforts and knowledge you shared. I also saved it
We've been eagerly awaiting new videos. Thank you.
In Archeology, as in the Gospel, the same principle applies: The last shall be first and the first shall be last.
Thank You many times in a row for your work Wayne!
I was surfing the web and stumbled across Wayne May's videos. I loved them! Ever since I read that Joseph Smith had found some old Nephite bones during Zion's Camp, I knew that parts of the Book of Mormon had to take place in North America. I wrote an adventure for kids that fully supports the Book of Mormon. For kids ages 9-13, and it's fun! At Amazon and titled - Arrowheads, Heroes & Rebels, and Treasure!
I love the work of Wayne May and believe he is inspired and part of his work is to bring about the respect for the remnant of Jacob that is required to take the gospel back to Israel as the day of the gentile is fulfilled.
This is the most convincing model of Book of Mormon geography to me. Thank you Wayne May and Latter-Day Media!
I am a lifelong member of the LDS Church, but a new North America Heartland convert. What changed for me was learning those who support Mesoamerica were all in with the absurd stone in a hat translation. It made me take a closer look at the teachings of Joseph Smith. They have dismissed what he has said for so long that I was blinded against the many detailed statements about North America. There are still problems I see, but not nearly as many as Mesoamerica.
The Apostles starting with Joseph Smith have all spoke of North America as where the Book of Mormon events took place. There are very firm statements from different apostles solidifying North America. Wayne May’s work gives a visualization of the geography using very clear facts. I’d really hoped to make it to the Ohio museum that has helmets, breastplates and fabric this summer but will have to wait until next.
The Museum in Columbus Ohio also has a Mastodon in which they found a human spear! It's right there in the front entrance. ツ
Thanks so much Brother May, for your wonderful work in this archeological endeavor, that we love and appreciate so much. I think you’re consistency hitting the nail on the head! Your work on the “Z” site is absolutely thrilling! I’m waiting for an update on UA-cam whenever you are ready!
The PhD s have led us astray! It took Wayne to make things clear for us!
God bless Wayne May
Thanks for making this available 🙏
Wow. I’ve never heard any of this. I was raised in Herkimer County, New York and found out I have Mohawk Indian ancestry (through books, not DNA yet) and from the Turtle Clan. I really need to do more research, and this is a great start. Thank you for this information.
So fascinating! 👍🏻 There truly is so much to dis-cover!
Hello, fellow saint! We’re everywhere aren’t we? I love Wayne May!
I hope one day to get a chance to take Wayne's Book of Mormon tour. I've never been out of the country, but would be satisfied with this one trip before I die. Nice joy, Wayne.
Me also Francine, I have been listening intently through the last 4-5 years on youtube, I have learned so much, however I would love to some of the mounds. I think that these people went north, like where we see Hill Cumorah and South through South America.
Wayne May has tours available with Latter Day Travel. LDM is a code you can use for $50 off.
I live near the Octagon mounds, and the Alligator mound in Granville. I have always dismissed the Alligator mound as well bc I didn’t understand it! Now I do! This is awesome! I’m still trying to figure out the Serpent mound. I have seen that exact symbol on some ancient artifact online like the Michigan tablets, Burrows Cave artifacts. I wonder what Wayne thinks of that symbol. I’m just curious.
When I joined the Church I was told that Lehi and family settled in meso america I had a hard time rapping my head around that. I exceed that because I knew the church was true. Then the heartland model, appears instant exceptance. Thank you for your dillagence and research in decovering what happened to the Book of Mormon people's and the Myans.
Yes,me too. The BoM is a true record no doubt in my mind. But Cumorah.is in new york and so was Moroni. I'm so glad we are being told the truth now. It makes so much more sense!
Brother May keep doing what you're doing!! Good man! Nice to know we have some honest people trying to get to the truth!
Thankyou Way. We love all the work you do and all you have found and shared with us. Keep up the good work . Very informative.
The native people have had a pretty raw deal in both Canada and the USA such a black mark on the leaders in government and Smithsonian institute and others.
Though not a member of the Church, I have been following Mr. May's work through his UA-cam presentations for years, primarily from a historical fascination with ancient America. His work and others who follow the Heartland model led me to read the BOM, visit the Hill Cumorah and Joseph's homestead when we lived in Western NY.
For those who question if the BOM took place in the USA and parts of Canada, I ask how much more evidence do you need?
In our worldwide travels, we have found a fascination with most people about Ancient America, the Native American cultures, healing ceremonies, traditions, spiritual teachings, etc. Welcome to the club! We love the Book of Mormon and are grateful for all the ways we have been blessed by it and all scripture! :)
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Thank you. I'm happy to be in the club.
Interestingly, I found through Family Seach that my second cousin Melissa Lott was once married to Joseph. Other relatives were in Nauvoo and made the trek west to Utah.
I have watched most if not all of Wayne May’s presentations and it just makes sense. To me it is easy, simple, and poetic in terms of the evidence of Book of Mormon geography being in the heartland. It blows my mind that some people can get contentious over this and think if I follow this data that I’m being deceived. I served a mission in Rancagua Chile and walked through ruins in that country trying to imagine the war chapters in that land. I see it more clearly here in the USA. I may never be able to persuade other members of the church that the Book of Mormon took place here(What an ironic statement), but I am so grateful there are those like Wayne, Jonathan Neville and others who make the effort to uncover this information. I do have a testimony of the restored gospel of Jesus Christ. It is not based on this geography evidence. Thank you for posting this presentation.
Yep. When I think of the Book of Mormon in South America I would get a “stupor of thought”. Bro. Wayne’s research makes me have “a-ha” thoughts. It just makes so much sense!
There shouldn't be members battling over this and creating bad vibes between each other.
I think a major issue is that for over half a century the geographical ambiguity of the BoM has been a great missionary tool; all "indigenous" peoples from Alaska to Chile to the Pacific islands have been told the BoM is about their ancestors. So now you have evidence vs tradition, and I think history has shown that tradition is usually favored.
@@383mazda I agree. I see that being the case.
@@CMZIEBARTH Why do mormons not believe their founder like the urim and Thummim over a piece of gravel? Why don't they believe what he said about North American? IT is what happens when people want to please the world and make friends with the wicked.
What is fascinating is how much Wayne May knows in common with Parley P. Pratt regarding what Parley wrote & preached about as he lived with the saints and taught the gospel far and wide among the people of this nation.
Every ounce of my being tells me America is the promised land!
Doesn't make any sense to be another land. (And I'm not even originally from the us)
Agreed!! ❤️
You are correct. So was Joseph Smith.
You all might want to check out the channels The II LDS Archives and Two Brothers. Amazing things to learn there (church doctrines and what things have been prophecied to happen from now until Jesus is back).
Yes, it is!!
A-Ma-Zing!! Love your research, Bro. May, Thank you!!
That first artifact is awesome. I’ve never seen that before.
I take comfort knowing that the necessary sites will be discovered in due time...I hope that time is in my lifetime...but the efforts of men won't block what is necessary from coming to light.
This answers so many questions I had, love it!
I was so excited to see this video. I was in Cumorah and seen your archeology display and books. I was enthralled with your research. Have followed your info now for years. Thankyou.
"Those little letters that follow their names" Neither did the original 12 that followed the Savior, neither did the greatest of all, neither did the first Prophet of this Dispensation. Surprising how much faith we put in the wisdom of men, when we have been so counseled not to.
Brilliant work though. Love it! Praise God almighty!
The great circle in Ohio has the trench on the inside instead of the outside. It is therefore to keep people in and not out. It may be the prison facility mentioned in the Book of Mormon and Bountiful may be in Ohio.
Amazing!!!
Great job Wayne! Keep up the great work partner. You are helping many people to have a framework for belief. Good luck in Montrose with the temple site!
Fantastic!
I agree with him when he says that not necessarily everyone who is "latino" or "hispanic" has the blood of Laman or Lemuel running in their veins. There are many different peoples on this western hemisphere.
Wayne May presents compelling evidence, which in my estimation is conclusive. I’m a geophysicist with experience in erosion, various earth sensing techniques, and chemical analysis. I’ve also independently researched many facts not presented here. Bottom line is- he’s right.
I don't need this to believe, but if you believe already, this is pretty darn cool stuff, IMO.
So happy Wayne May joined the church. I never thought the MesoAmerica model was right. The Heartland model fits like a glove.
..Northern States Mission, 1907 Edition of the Book of Mormon is an interesting find. It would be equally interesting to examine the scholarship that resulted in the specific footnote references being removed from subsequent editions. Any conclusive references would aid in an in depth study of the record of the people that inhabited the land, but it appears that leaving specific options open to conjecture, was deemed preferable to making specific references.
Thank you
great presentation
Love it
Pretty awesome study and research and archaeology. I listened to a podcast the other day by a Lakota Indian and he said the founding fathers used many of their beliefs in the forming of the USA Constitution. I thought that is pretty cool if true. It makes sense.
I met an old Navaho man. He told me the Mormons stole their religion because it is the same.
Yes, the Iroquois League of NATIONS BEGINS: "We the people, having formed a union..." and that was enough to ignite Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin etc. John Rutledge during the Constitutional Convention brought up the Councils of the Natives in the Great Lakes are that had experienced peace for 400 years. There is so much more about that, but I wanted to validate what you shared. ツ
Love this and want to go on a tour.
Go to this link to see more about Wayne and Bruce Porter's Tour: www.latterdaytravel.com/lostremnants/?campaign=6&sub=ldmedia&Kay_Godfrey_Podcast_26&
@@ComeFollowMeLatterDayMedia There is No Such Language as Reform Egyptian!
Can't wait for another long clip with new info like this
Wayne love your presentations this one is the best so far oh, I want to say thank you, finally someone says the navajos are Mongols they are Asian, you can see it in their facial features. Fukushima in 2011 taught us a very important lesson about archaeology and the movement of ancient people, for some time after the tsunami derelict ships even a concrete floating dock from Japan ended up on the shores Oregon or Washington sorry I don't remember which. They didn't come over a land bridge that is nonsense, the people of Japan live on an island surrounded by water they have been Mariners forever those people either purposely or by accident ended up on our Western Shores, that's where they came from. Thank you very much for bringing that out.
Bryan Maughan here. We might be related.
From the moment I landed in Puerto Rico the whispers of the ancients were there until the time we left. I felt Book of Mormon peoples had been there.
dear Dr. may...thank you for all your great work...i am retired and am completely self sufficient..would love to help out on your dig on the zarahemla excavation... i don't' need any compensation for this...just the great honor in helping out on this project. ... several of my ancestors received their endowment in the original navoua temple...
You may go to: www.LDSArchaeology.com or write to Wayne here: Wayne@ancientAmerican.com
The ‘Anthon Transcript’ is not actually the Anthon Transcript. It’s something Joseph Smith gave to Oliver Cowdrey at the end of the translation of the Book of Mormon for him to keep as a momento. David Whitmer started referring to it as the Anthon Transcript.
Hi Wayne. I came across an interesting name Michmash in Nehemiah chapter 11.
Any connection to the Mikmak tribes in North America?
Sounds like a logical deduction from the Hebrew pronunciation to an anglicized version. There is a book "Gospel of the Great Spirit" by Joshua Bennett who is a former Jew who had access to the Vatican Library in documenting Native American histories and correlations with Biblical and Book of Mormon histories. Toward the end, there is an index which shows some of the characters from the Book of Mormon translation (Anton Script) with the Cherokee letters. It is uncanny the similarities. :) The Mikmaks seemed to have more purity in some of their stories and traditions from what I have seen, as they were more northward and isolated. :)
I am proud I got to shake his hand
Great video!!
The book of Mormon took place over all of America, North and South America. Even the book of Mormon says so, they filled the entire land north and south. The evidence is just now starting to show this. These people lived on this continent for around 900 years, that’s a long time to populate a continent. We’ve only been in America for around 400 years, since the Mayflower. By the way the Book of Mormon people are still here, we call them Native Americans.
I think President Nelson said the same thing.
I live near the Octagon mounds, and the Alligator mound in Granville. I have always dismissed the Alligator mound as well bc I didn’t understand it! Now I do! This is awesome! I’m still trying to figure out the Serpent mound. I have seen that exact symbol on some ancient artifact online like the Michigan tablets, Burrows Cave artifacts. I wonder what Wayne thinks of that symbol. I’m just curious.
Don't worry, Joseph Smith didn't have to those special letters after his name either.
Well.... interesting.
Mulekites two sets of people at the same time north and south lands
we hear in texas have bigger mounds then that along the red river in cooke co. I REMEMBER A TIME WHEN LARGE SHIP COULD SAIL DOWN IT its right next to the old toll bridge my great grand father owned
Why would God chart a course for Lehi and his family across the Indian Ocean, China Sea, through the Philippines and the vast Pacific Ocean to land in Central America. There is a much shorter course around the African coast to the southern coast of North America. I recently read the Book of Mormon again during this pandemic and I could see the Finger and Great Lakes area as the place were the place of the Nephites and Laminates.
Wayne May Great Work! Are you also the Voice of Ernie from Sesame Street? 😉 You and Jim Henson sound familar. When you were talking about "Grover" I had to Chuckle. 😄
Where can I find one of those 3 hour DVDs?
The world oldest steel Sword was found in jerico dates at around 600 bc or older
Author James Alexander Thom chronicles the voyage of Prince Madoac, son of King Owen Gwnedd, sailed the Gwenth Gorn west of the Pillars of Hercules. The book is called Children of First Man. The book is based on historical fact. It mentions sacred bundles and metal smelting. There is a link I suspect.
Faith does not need books, or history, or experts. You know what you know, it is FAITH. If you start your own bank and print your own script the system lords will put you in a pine box.
Go to this link to see more about Wayne and Bruce Porter's Tour: www.latterdaytravel.com/lostremnants/?campaign=6&sub=ldmedia&Kay_Godfrey_Podcast_26&
One does not even have to be seeking theological justification with all this. This can go as historical revisionism independent of any preconceived religious briefs. It is a case of inquiring into what really happened pre-Colombian. It is reckoned by many that at least some of the North American Indian head dress plumages bore striking resemblance to the head dress attire seen with ancient Egyptian saecophacai.
Also the haplo groups of those same tribes really help reinforce that the Algonquin tribes are connected to the ancient Israelites
Nobel peace prize!
At 1:13:27, Wayne says no missionaries sent south of the Rio Grande River for 75 years. Actually, the first Missionaries to Guatemala was 1947! Did God know where the Lamanites were living in 1830?
Letters behind their name?
2nd Nephi 27: 16 covers that.
1:02:00 , the Dalai Lama was forced to flee Chinese troops. On March 31, 1959, he began a permanent exile in India, settling at Dharamsala,
2 Corinthians chapter 3, all about the mirror image.
😂 oh lord have mercy! Hahaha! This guy. You just know he puts jigsaw puzzles together with a hammer 🔨
All the colleges that give honorary doctorates to celebrities should stop being dinks, & give this guy one.
I am just wondering what you think of the research of Phyllis Olive and her hypothesis that the area of the Book of Mormon takes place in upper New York and Canada around the Great Lakes and Finger Lakes of NY. I enjoy watching her UA-cams as well as yours. It seems her territory is about as much as a Nephite could walk in a day, and not the whole eastern United States and midwest. Her hypothesis is that the Mulekites/Jaredites came through the St. Lawrence River and down around the Great Lakes, and the Lehites came up the Delaware and settled in Pennsylvania before moving upward into New York. She cites the Gadianton Robbers were Celts, Druids, and Vikingesque peoples who were already here with their religions of sun gods and moon gods, and they built the mounds that align with the sun, moon, stars, etc. Then they tried to force their religions on the Nephites/Lamanites. They were in the midwest where the mounds were built. She's been writing books about this since the 1990s, I think. I think both of your hypotheses are very interesting, having lived in Pennsylvania, and attended the Hill Cumorah Pageant since the 1980s (so sad it's not performed anymore). But you both have me convinced the Book of Mormon lands are not in Central America. However, I heard President Nelson telling someone (on a video) that the Book of Mormon takes place in "the ancient Americas." Well, Canada is part of the Americas, too. I appreciate all research in this vein.
Sorry, Lehites sailed up the Susquehanna River, not Delaware.
L. Tom Perry called the United States the Promised Land of the Book of Mormon. He, and most other Latter-day Prophets all believed the Book of Mormon took place in this country, as the fulfillment of Isaiah's end-time prophecies (as well as Daniel, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Joseph Smith etc.). Marion G. Romney was especially vocal about this country being where the Jaredites, Mulekites and Nephites lived.
Does the LDS church own ancient books written on metal plates?
Does anyone know when the next conference will be in Salt lake city Utah or there abouts?
Latter-day Media will be putting on 2 Conferences Sept. 18 in Lehi (Virtual tickets also available), and Oct. 1 in Midway, Utah at the Zermatt, but that announcement has not been made public yet. I think they will send out an email to hold the dates and give more info. if you get on their email list at www.comefollowme2021.com.
@@motivationalmentoring3227 Thank you
Hi there this is Betty redant LaFontaine there is an upcoming BofM conference Sept 23-25 in Sandy Utah Mountain America Expo
@@Yazzie60 Thank you
@@darrisellis8810 you’re most welcome! Hope to see ya in September! 😊
Great talk.. my only question is.. the hopewell people and the people now... what's their dna like is it Jewish?
Obviously you missed last year. When they talked about only in this area of America do you find Hebrew DNA.
The DNA is called Haplo X. It traces to Hebrew origins, and the Ashkenazi Jews (one of the purest bloodlines on the planet) still have the Haplo X DNA today!
@@motivationalmentoring3227 Genesis 10:6, According to the Bible the Hebrew Israelites Look like the ( Cush , The Egyptians , Cush and Mizraim and Phut and Canaan were all brothers ( Black people , That makes The Israelites all 12 tribes black people , So if Lehi existed he was a ( Negro)
@@jameswinesgreenspunjhs8954 very wrong. There are multiple descriptions of Israelites in the scriptures of a ruddy look and red face, and faces that waxed pale, which features only exist in light skinned people.
There are many more proofs in addition to this.
You guys couldn’t find a bigger venue for this? Ha ha. I feel like you’re giving an MLM presentation in Elder’s Quorum President living room.
This was a private setting...and Wayne speaks all over the U.S. at Conferences and Seminars. We have filmed many of those with thousands of people. You can go to LatterDayNetwork.com in the next few weeks to see more. Wayne just happened to be In town in July from Wisconsin. :)
What happens if the Joseph's Hill "Cumorah" isn't Cumorah? I'm sold on Hopewell/ North America Book of Mormon lands, but I don't believe the LDS traditional "Cumorah" is the hill described in Ether and by Mormon.
It isn't where Moroni buried the plates.
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It is certainly where Joseph found the plates , so ??
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I'm not a scholar...but I study and ponder a lot (more that my wife would like 🙂) Resurrected Moroni never referred to "Joseph's Hill" as Cumorah.
The only mention I find of Joseph's referring to it as Cumorah is section 128:20 of D&C.
Oliver Cowdery did write letters about it being Cumorah in 1835.
Some evidence seems to show that the name Cumorah for that hill is LDS tradition.
There are geographical features that show that "Joseph's Hill" doesn't match descriptions of Cumorah and Ramah.
No physical evidence of 2 culture ending battles on and around that Hill.
Study and search! There are a lot of things to learn!!
@@ericnelson3334 So that's like Joseph Smith said that Adam ondi Ahmen in Missouri is the Garden of Eden????? Right! pearl of great price ( Moses chapter 3 why does Joseph Smith give the same location of the Garden of Eden as it is shown in Genesis 2:10-14) ?? Joseph Smith contradict himself
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Adam Ondi Ahman (Spring Hill) is near where The Garden of Eden was.
Please focus on the many truths brought to light through the ministration of Joseph Smith. Don't let questions about tangential details cause doubt.
I do think there are beliefs or habits the church culture has developed that aren't true gospel principles that we need to recognize and let go of.
Hopewell... It's in the first name.. Mordecai
Interesting. Care to elaborate? ツ
@@ComeFollowMeLatterDayMedia So, Mordecai Hopewell was the person who owned the farm where part of an extensive earthwork site was excavated in 1891. Yet the civilisation has been called "The Hopewell civilisation" taken from the surname.
However, if you ditch the surname and use Mordecai you can get Mordecaites. Like Nephites, Jaredites Lamanites etc etc.
Also the name Mordecai is one of the main personalities in the Book of Esther in the Hebrew Bible, the son of Jair, of the tribe of Benjamin. So the name Mordecai itself holds weight from the Bible.
Then if you look at the books of the Old Testament, 2 of the last 3 books are Haggai & Malachi.
Haggai is written about 520 bc
Malachi is written around 430 bc.
Nephi 1 starts around 600 bc
So the time periods not only overlap BUT Haggai & Malachi are the only two in the Old Testament that end in the letter "i".
Seeing as Haggai & Malachi were both Prophets "technically" you could say that lots of people followed these Prophets (Haggaites & Malachites)
The Old Testament comes to an end as the Book of Mormon begins in America then fast forward to 1891 and you get the name of Mordacai Hopewell. Which is an unusual name.
In the 1850 census, the top 20 names for males born in 1801-1810 were: John, William, James, Thomas, George, Joseph, Samuel, Henry, David, Daniel, Jacob, Charles, Benjamin, Robert, Isaac, Peter, Stephen, Nathan, Lewis, Edward. 65%, or 13 out of 20, are Biblical names.
In the same census, the top 20 names for males born in 1841-1850 were: John, William, James, George, Charles, Henry, Thomas, Joseph, Samuel, Robert, David, Edward, Daniel, Jacob, Francis, Benjamin, Albert, Lewis, Frank, Andrew. 55% are Biblical; some non-Biblical names like Edward, Frank, Albert, and Lewis have knocked out Biblical names like Isaac (#21) and Peter (#24). But 16 of the top 20 names in 1801-1810 were still in the top 20 in 1841-1850.
In the Latin alphabet, "Jehovah" begins with an "i".
(Revelation 21:6) says "He said to me, 'It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End'"
The Book of Mormon starts with Nephi and ends with Moroni.
Everything is all interlinked in a very spectacular way.
Doesn’t the LDS church own the hill cumorah property? They could excavate anytime but choose not too for some reason…
The Clovis people didn't come across the Land Bridge either. They began in western surope, and they are known as Sulutrian. Sulutrian is an early form of Clovis technology. Academics can follow their migration based the things they left behind, and we can see how their technology changed over time. After the end of the Cold War, Archaeologists were able to get into Asia and do research. There is NOTHING there resembling Clovis technology. Only Sulutrian is similar to Clovis. And Sulutruan predates Clovis.
Although I'm a heartlander I find it inconvenient that Wayne May is showing drawings of maps instead of real place photos. Or some of them are black and white ones. why don't we have updated pictures?
It’s because these Hopewell forts were documented in the 1800s and many of them i’ve been destroyed by farming, building and other activity.
"En-syne."
Why is there no evidence of a major war near Cumorah?
Even if they were to find a massive battle sight, which is still possible, there would be another complaint after that and another one after that. Those who only seeks signs will never be satisfied.
Ether 4:11-15
11 But he that believeth these things which I have spoken, him will I visit with the manifestations of my Spirit, and he shall know and bear record. For because of my Spirit he shall know that these things are true; for it persuadeth men to do good.
12 And whatsoever thing persuadeth men to do good is of me; for good cometh of none save it be of me. I am the same that leadeth men to all good; he that will not believe my words will not believe me-that I am; and he that will not believe me will not believe the Father who sent me. For behold, I am the Father, I am the light, and the life, and the truth of the world.
13 Come unto me, O ye Gentiles, and I will show unto you the greater things, the knowledge which is hid up because of unbelief.
14 Come unto me, O ye house of Israel, and it shall be made manifest unto you how great things the Father hath laid up for you, from the foundation of the world; and it hath not come unto you, because of unbelief.
15 Behold, when ye shall rend that veil of unbelief which doth cause you to remain in your awful state of wickedness, and hardness of heart, and blindness of mind, then shall the great and marvelous things which have been hid up from the foundation of the world from you-yea, when ye shall call upon the Father in my name, with a broken heart and a contrite spirit, then shall ye know that the Father hath remembered the covenant which he made unto your fathers, O house of Israel.
God will give a personal and spiritual answer to those who ask him. There is knowledge hid from the world until we first have faith.
But also, the natives of the area all tell about their war in their oral histories. That’s good enough for me lol
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Before the Lord visited the Nephite's the land changed dramatically, remember.
@@cherylduarte4399 yes. But the great battle near the end of the book Mormon took place after the great change of the land.
I thought he would discuss monetary systems of ancient central america, or maybe horse bones found there, at the very least where those gold plates are.
43:09 the letters on the coin do look like the letters. But, the reverse of the coin is not the same as the coin. They are so close why cheat?
Not Buffalo. Bison. Bison bison bison.
GuatAmala???? It is GuatEmala. Also, you may want to do more research on the origin of the word GUATEMALA.
Here’s the piece that will help your understanding a bit better. These intelligent civilisations of the past all knew the earth was a non rotating plane. Not a spinning ball tearing through “space”. We live in the great Antarctica basin. The equinoxes and solstices all prove the earth is flat, same with the constellations we see every night in the same place. Think about it, why would they build such magnificent sites so accurately showing where the sun and moon appear only for the course of the sun and moon to move away as we continue moving through space?
7 Foundational Principles of Book of Mormon believers-
1) A Spiritual Witness [aka feelings] is more important and more reliable than material evidence to prove something true and should be prioritized over material evidence.
2) If someone does decide to look for material evidence, despite it being inferior to a Spiritual Witness, he/she must give greater weight to any evidence that supports Book of Mormon historicity and dismiss/ignore evidence that does not support Book of Mormon historicity.
3) One must ignore or dismiss the numerous claims that previous LDS Prophets, Seers, and Revelators made about Book of Mormon origins, archaeological evidence, geography, etc if science has now disproved those claims because they must have all been “speaking as a man” when they made those claims.
4) One must ignore the fact that Joseph Smith used the Seer-stone-in-a-hat method for years to deceive people prior to using the same deceitful method to “translate” the Book of Mormon, because God really did make words appear on the stone in the hat for Joseph to read out loud to his scribe despite Joseph being unable to locate any treasure using the exact same method. In other words, the fraudulent method didn’t work previously but God made it work for the translation of the Book of Mormon because God is omnipotent.
5) One must ignore the fact that Joseph Smith has a long history of dishonesty such as deceiving others about buried treasure and lying to his wife and the members of the Church about having multiple wives, including teen brides as young as 14 years old, because a Spiritual Witness can verify that he was telling the truth about the Book of Mormon.
6) One must ignore the fact that many LDS Prophets, Seers, and Revelators, including Joseph Smith, have made many false claims and even taught things the church now claims are “false doctrines” because those same LDS Prophets, Seers, and Revelators have also promised and testified that they will “always teach the truth”, that, “[t]he Lord will never permit me [President Wilford Woodruff] or any other man who stands as President of this Church to lead you astray”, that “[t]he Lord will never let the General Authorities of this Church lead it astray”, that “[t]he Lord will never let his mouthpiece lead the people astray”, that “[t]he prophet will never lead the Church astray”, that Prophets “won’t lead you astray”, that Prophets won’t “lead anyone astray”, that, “[t]hat’s not what prophets do”, that, “[i]f the President of the church should ever lead people astray, God would take him away”, and that, “God won’t lead you astray, and the prophet will not lead you astray, because God loves you”, and I can trust a Spiritual Witness that those promises and testimonies are true.
7) I can fully trust what LDS Prophets, Seers, and Revelators tell me is true, regardless of their past record of teaching “false doctrine” and making claims that have now been conclusively disproved, because even if I receive a Spiritual Witness that something they are claiming is true is actually false, I can know of a surety that the Spiritual Witness I received was Satan trying to lead me astray because LDS Prophets, Seers, and Revelators have said so.
Was it free or priestcrafted?
I don’t pretend to know where the Book of Mormon lands were but I have three questions that have not been answered regarding the North American location:
1. We are told in the Book of Mormon that the descendants of the Laminites “[shall] go forth among them; and ye shall be in the midst of them who shall be many; and ye shall be among them as a lion among the beasts of the forest, and as a young lion among the flocks of sheep, who, if he goeth through both treadeth down and teareth in pieces, and none can deliver.” The American Indians are no where near fulfilling this prophecy while the people south of the US border are.
2.Columbus visited Middle America but never did visit North America.
3.Snow is never mentioned in the Book of Mormon.
Many things are not mentioned in the Book of Mormon. So what?
@@nogaffin what about the two other points?
astrolen@hotmail.com replies. This is a prophecy of the time when the New Jerusalem is established, it is future, in a few years time. In the Book of Mormon, 3 Nephi 20:16 and 17 you find the quote you are referring to. Look at verses 12 and 13 of same chapter. The house of Israel/Jacob is made up of 12 tribes not just Manasseh. The remnant the Saviour is talking about here are gathered from N,E,S,W. We also know that the "Lost Ten Tribes" will come from the north country singing songs of everlasting joy when they get to New Jerusalem. Me thinks the Saints need to learn to study the scriptures and the words of modern prophets (Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, Orson Pratt, and the Institute manuals) in depth. Happy hours of studying which it will take, but it is good for the testimony. I took an hour for this reply by checking scripture dictionary and cross referencing, + checking other sources mentioned above. Please everyone do the studying. President Nelson is in communication with the the Saviour they know what is about to happen now. Look carefully at his 2020-2021 conference addresses. He knows time is running out and we have to have no chinks in our armour for Satan to deceive us.
@@cassandrawalker8188 thanks, I appreciate the research and your comments.
Just a thought: Alma 46:40 "And there were some who died with fevers, which at some seasons of the year were very frequent in the land-but not so much so with fevers, because of the excellent qualities of the many plants and roots which God had prepared to remove the cause of diseases, to which men were subject by the nature of the climate." What do you see as a season? In Central America they have one season. Hot. Being near the equator it's pretty much the same year round. When does colds/flu usually hit? Ranging from Fall to Spring. North America deals way more with "seasons" than South does. Just my two cents.
While this is all great, Wayne continues to ignore the fact that the native Americans alive today have ASIAN DNA haplotypes and do not have any relation to DNA groups shared by those in the Middle East. The Natives came FROM the Bering sea straight from Asia, which is why they look Asian. They are not eastern.
Perhaps you didn't realize that not all Native tribes are the same in their DNA. It is actually WAYNE who would agree with you when it comes to certain Native American DNA tracing to Asia, with all the research he has done with the Southwest Native Americans. He shows amazing similarities to Cambodian and other Asian buildings, temples, DNA etc. Did you know that?
The EASTERN tribes in the U.S. and Canada are the ones who have the Haplo X DNA that traces directly to the Mideastern and Hebrew peoples, like the Ashkenazi Jews, one of the purest bloodlines in the world. Wayne has done many decades of research. It might help you to visit his website at: www.LDSArchaeology.com.