Sometimes I wonder if my father is a sociopath or something similar. He has zero empathy, and very low impulse control. He also loves to scare and hurt animals and children, basically anything small that can't fight. He also loved to make me feel bad about myself, he would sit there with a glint in his eyes, smirking, while he made me feel so ugly and stupid to the point I'd cry. He liked to launch 'sneak attacks' against me and invade my privacy by going through my stuff, sometimes even stealing my things. To this day as a grown adult I get an almost trigger response to certain things, some common for abuse and others kind of ridiculous. He now lives alone in the woods because no one else can stand to live with him anymore. His mother pays his bills for him but she's scared of him and refuses to even talk to him.
That really sucks. I couldn't imagine how messed up it would feel to live with a person like that especially when you're dependent on them and have no where else to go. Hope you're doing better now.
I can't relate to all of this but the constant sneaking, stealing, and Invasion of privacy stuff I grew up with. If something makes me feel like that's going to happen to me again, I do get irrationally defensive. I think it is because I don't want to feel powerlessness maybe? Idk. The idea of a bigger person kicking a little person when they are down sickness me, it's sounds like you know this well.
I feel sorry for all these incredibly vulnerable people being preyed on. Zero tolerance for a single instance of these behaviours doesn't seem to be the norm, which is frankly a bit confusing to me. Then again it's not like Avoiding Predatory Men 101 is taught in schools 🤔 Also, anyone else really hate the way the DSM twists language to make evil people sound like victims? Just like a sociopath would, ironically. They don't 'have a disorder', they're evil, they know what they're doing, and they enjoy it.
@@aishidoveIt can also be in the brain itself. Psychopaths are supposedly born that way, but sociopaths are supposed to be made that way. I think it’s an oversimplification, but they can actually see differences in the brain in MRIs of psychopaths. But environment has so much to do with how all of them grow up. Even psychopaths can learn how to treat other people and follow the rules when they are brought up in a consistent, loving home. T They do know the difference between right and wrong, so I wouldn’t pity them so much that I would excuse their terrible treatment of others. And I can very much understand why people see them as “evil”. I think that people can be evil no matter what their upbringing was.
My dad is a covert narcissist. I wasn't the main target of the abuse, but even being on the sidelines affected me. My mom realized that he wasn't a good person about a year ago. She retained a lawyer and is in the process of divorcing him. It sucks, growing up in abuse. I'm always on alert, even if I don't realize it. Loud sounds make me flinch and if they go on for a long time, I shut down. Yelling makes me fold in on myself. It's hard to trust people, especially men. I'm in therapy and slowly healing, but I wouldn't wish this on anyone.
I'm fortunate enough not to have had that experience, but I was in a situationship with a covert narcissist for 7 months. It's a sucky experience. The irony is that I had learned about narcissism after meeting her but before getting together, and I had identified a couple of other narcs in my life at that time. I didn't realise she was one until 2 weeks after I ended things. It's been 2 months since the realisation. I'm starting therapy in a few days. I'm sorry you went through that for so long and I hope you're doing well in life.
Yep, same exact situation for me. I stayed in it way longer than I would have liked because I had much younger siblings and I was afraid to leave them alone with just him and my mom. She wasn't as good as dealing with him as me and had a lot of her own issues anyway. I'm out now, we're all adults and it's been years, but there's still so much to heal and unpack. It's awful. I have a wonderful life now but I still suffer a lot from growing up like that.
The sad fact is that no one is immune to abusive relationships. I found myself in one when I was young, and it was terrifying to realize how easily I fell into that trap, especially when I had been so aware of the dangers. But it still happened to me. People no matter their gender or age can find themselves in a vulnerable position and wind up in a very bad place before they even realize what happened. And getting to a place where they can recover & feel like they can trust themselves, much less someone else takes a lot of time and work. And it’s painful.
Regarding the woman who studied psych and just knew she’d recognize the signs, she’s not alone. I was a mental health nurse for a long time and didn’t recognize that I had post partum depression, not even when I told my mother in law that she could go ahead and take my baby with her when she jokingly said she wanted to sneak off with him, that he was just small enough to be able to smuggle him out of our house in her purse. This was said at the breakfast table when our son was only 26 days old. My husband, her, and my dad just looked at me like "wtf?" When I reiterated my sentiment and that I was serious, my husband said "yeaaah, you need to call the doctor right now because things from the last 3 weeks are starting to click and from what the nurse told me to watch out for just before you and the baby were discharged from the hospital, I’m pretty sure you have post partum depression." The moment he said it I knew he was right. I called my OB right then and she kept me on hold while she talked to the doctor. When she came back on the line she told me to come into the office immediately and he’d squeeze me in. I had a script for Lexapro filled and took my first dose before 1 p.m. that same day. I should have recognized it but when it happens to you it can be difficult to see the forest for the trees.
Clinically, they are the same thing. Actually, technically, neither exists. The actual term is "antisocial personality disorder," and both sociopaths and psychopaths fall under that umbrella.
Technically you can't diagnose a story but one thing is for sure they are all a danger to society. What separates a sociopath from a psychopath is a psychopath was born sick where a sociopath was a product of their environment like a narcissist except a narcissist will feel guilty from time to time where the others do not.
@@Tarotqueen-uv1qy Thank you for explaining/detailing my botched up explanation That was what I was trying to get at All sociopaths are narcissists but not all narcissists are sociopaths But, some sociopaths, are not a danger to society as much as their close surroundings Got the t-shirt, could make a living selling it online
I knew someone with sociopathy who was actively in an extremely abusive marriage with another sociopath. It was terrifying. At some point I was over at their house and his wife started shouting at him and I saw her hit him. No regard for the fact I was there.
pretty sure I’m the sociopath, though I’m undiagnosed. i wasn’t even upfront in my mind trying to, and still accidentally just destroyed someone mentally. for that reason, I make sure to tell people I have a lack of empathy and emotion, just so they know what they’re getting themselves into with me. being self aware about it is difficult for me, but I’ll be dammed if I’m not trying. i could genuinely be dangerous if I wasn’t so upfront about it though cause I’m so good at faking things to the point of being able to force myself to cry on a whim. it is really weird being so just blank though, especially when I get praised for things like high quality work or carrying my team in a game, because I just don’t feel anything from it. like I know I should be happy in those situations, but it’s just blank until I remind myself what I should be feeling.
Hey if you're genuinely concerned about this I'd look into getting a psych eval, Antisocial Personality Disorder (the true 100% accurate term for a sociopath) is actually more common than many people realize with 200,000 people in the US alone being diagnosed with it*. If you know what you're dealing with then it might be easier to navigate life. Edit: *this is a yearly number
I recommend a psych evaluation. I felt trouble feeling emotions, people would ask me how I “felt” & I would answer “I feel hot/cold, hungry, other sensory “feelings”, rather than emotional stuff. Also having inappropriate responses in situations (laughing because other people were crying, or if someone was yelling abuse at me). Also the inability to comprehend someone’s emotional pain- someone would be crying & I would ask them “are you ok?” & they would say “no”, so I would ask them if they needed to go to hospital, & when they would respond “no” again, I would reply “so you actually ARE ok”. I could not understand why they say that they weren’t ok. Finally, as an adult, I got diagnosed by 2 separate psychologists as having high functioning autism.
@@arteria023 thanks! A couple of questions: When you say you destroyed someone mentally, without meaning to, can you elaborate what you mean by that? Do you experience cognitive empathy (understanding intellectually what the people around you are feeling, even though you don’t ‘relate’ so to speak) or is it difficult to gauge what people around you are feeling? At what point did you realize that you didn’t experience emotions the same way other people did? How did you react to the realization initially? Is there anything specific you want people to know about you and people like you?
I just want to say a few things so that people don't go villainizing certain things in these posts: 1.) practicing expressions is also something autistic people do because some aren't very outwardly expressive or genuinely don't know how to express themselves, and it can help them fit in better. 2.) Low to no empathy does not make someone evil or secretly a serial killer. There are many condiitons (autism, certain personality disorders, C-PTSD, etc) that can cause someone to have low or no empathy. I've heard cases of people who have suffered extreme trauma developing low / no empathy in order to protect themselves (especially if their empathy was used against them). someone can have low / no empathy and still be a compassionate and caring person. And speaking of compassion: THAT'S what matters, not empathy. You can still be a caring person without fully understanding or feeling what someone else feels. 3.) Same with people with narcissistic personality disorder - or NPD. Not all of them are abusers and it's especially important to remember NPD often forms from extreme abuse. So villainizing NPD and using narcissist / narcissistic as a placeholder for "abusive / abuser" is extremely harmful for those who want to seek out help. Which is why we should stop using terms like narcissistic abuse (which dissappoints me to see the psychologist who responded to this reddit using that term.) Also, the person who coined NPD wasn't even a psychiatrist and was super transphobic / homophobic / misogynistic, so even just the diagnosis itself should be questioned.
Oh my god.... this just showed me that the guy that's asking me to give him a 3rd chance is a sociopath Edit: he gave me a "second chance " then to find out he was just making a joke out of me.
@@kilderok Your thinly veiled judgmental insult does not come off as constructively or nontoxically as you presumably hoped it would. Like, you realize you just victim-blamed right? Oh well, I guess we all learn at different speeds 🙄
One of the biggest ways to protect yourself from an abusive relationship is to never think you're too smart/strong/whatever to find yourself with an abusive person. Anyone can become a victim, and that denial makes you more vulnerable because you think yourself immune. Always be alert and always pay attention to the little details.
Story 4 is very relatable to me, I'm currently friends with someone who I realized a while ago is a Vulnerable Narcissist, specifically. Detaching emotionally was difficult, but learning how is a very valuable skill. Now we can get along and have a good working relationship without me crying about being confused by his emotional inconsistencies all the time, lol.
So a lot of people just say sociopath or psychopath interchangeably, but they are different. A lot of the people being described with a lack of empathy are people who show signs of psychopathy (lack of empathy and remorse) while people who show signs of sociopathy are people who express anger often and disregard rules or laws. Someone can have both of these and neither of them are true diagnostic terms, if you are looking for the diagnosis typically associated with being a socio/psychopath then that would be Antisocial Personality Disorder which can't be given diagnosed until 15 yrs old at the youngest and before that it's known as conduct disorder
My partner is diagnosed with Sociopathy. Not all of them are insane, crazy people. Yes, they have a lack of empathy and deal with that kind of things, but if they're *actually* trying to get better and support, you shouldn't think of them with the sterotype of a dangerous crazy person.
Reminds me of my brother: he's autistic, so empathy doesn't come naturally to him. But he's learned what he calls 'logical empathy', and the ability to be empathetic out of habit
@@byereality7492 Mhm I think it's telling stuff like the second story also just describes common tells of autism. I think it comes down to masking at the end of the day- both groups of people are doing it, but for different (if overlapping) reasons. I'm glad to see someone in the comments saying something about how sociopathy isn't the end-all-be-all of a person. The things people describe in these stories are definitely fucked up, and I don't want to downplay that. I do think we overstigmatize low empathy/low compassion in people tho, specifically people who are trying their best but get pigeonholed into the broader reputation of EeEeEeeEvVvil sociopaths with no capability for connection or w/e. It's,,, rough, this stuff is complicated and painful but y'know, what else are we going to do if not try to be compassionate.
@@byereality7492 I feel like I should correct you on the whole people with autism don't naturally have empathy. In most studies it shows people with autism having empathy but expressing it entirely differently. And I gotta agree with the study. I have plenty of times I feel empathy for people. It just never comes over that way cause of the different way in which I communicate empathy. For me it's a blunt honesty that often comes with a rational observation that can be entirely missing the point or the emotion of everyone else. Because that blunt honesty and rationality is a comfort for me. That's what makes me feel understood and at ease. And just like how others don't pick up on me expressing empathy I don't pick up on other people expressing empathy to me. It feels like they're lying to my face every time they do it and it creeps me out. There's no blunt honesty there's just empty promises and cobbled up lines that are supposed to make you feel better. And sure I learned how to do the same in a social course for people with autism. But that logical empathy and empathy out of habit, is not even how I express honest empathy. It often feels like putting on an act to appease the masses, just to not get kicked out of the group for another day. To have a secure spot. It's pretty lonely when people just assume I don't have empathy naturally cause I feel so much, in such extreme ways it genuinely affects my physical health. All because I express it differently by nature.
Well just like anything, sociopathy is on a spectrum. It's likely the person you're with has mild symptoms that can be treated with consistent therapy. My father is actually a diagnosed narcissist and he's literally the best person in my life and always there for me lol, so these things are definitely possible. Just have to make sure that they keep going to their therapy appointments.
Hi, UnderSparked! While I'm early, I hope you can see this! I just wanted you to know that you help keep me entertained while I heal and draw. I'm definitely grateful that I found your channel.
these story's of yours remind me of the good situation I am in, and every time I feel like something has happened I either watch these videos to remind me of the good experiences i have had or i watch these stories of funny topics to make me laugh. please keep all of your channels as good as they are, you are legendary.
my older brother. He can't control himself, I thought he could kill any of us any time, would give innecesary s***** information about his relationships when I was still a minor, r**** me when I was 6 and he was 16 because "he could" and then (when I remembered because had post traumatic amnesia), he said he couldn't remember because of ptsd amnesia. If u don't know him like me, he's the best guy, really kind and funny...thats what everyone tells me about him and thats why they don't get why I don't talk to him or let him come to my house. But, thankfully, he's almost out of my life even if he tried to be in it.
I am so sorry you went through this😢. I am currently in kinda similar situation, so I am searching for inspiration on what to do now in these comments. Your comment gave me hope that I can break free👍🏻 Have a nice day!😊
@@hehenika5122 U absolutely can! it's really hard but is what u need to do to be happy. The adults around me didn't know and when they knew, just my mom supported me so I needed to put boundaries in place because "my dad didn't know how" bs, u need to be strong to protect yourself if the people around u isn't doing it because u deserve to be happy and free in your own terms
I developed aspd(sociopathy/psychopathy) because of my Adhd, but it’s not necessarily destructive, the problem stems from the lack of regard, it’s like doing good or bad is the same thing. I don’t care about anyone, not even about myself that much, this leads me to form any sort of relationship only if i need something from them, i don’t engage with people nowdays because the effort of putting on a show is not worth is for me anymore because it can exhausting, only if i need money i contact people.
One day reality hit hard, he had nice car etc. but everything children or I needed was too expensive and not important. And everytime going home felt like going to a work or prison after real work. So, I left that manchild but had to do it carefully and play along for a while. Still don't know what diagnosis would fit him but anyone doesn't deserve that kind of abuse. Even if you like to serve your partner you still need to be treated like human with feelings and needs.
Stories like this make me think that empathy chip from Futurama needs to become a real thing, and anyone diagnosed with sociopathy should be required to have it.
@xmlstudios We're not talking about borderline personality disorder, dude. We're talking about people who lack empathy. And I'm saying we could stand to have fewer people without it.
@@CJMoody that guy replying to you is truly a specimen. I grew up with both a (in my opinion) sociopathic step-father and a mom with at the time undiagnosed bpd. Both were harmful to grow up with, but one was definitely worse then the other. He convinced my, easily manipulated, mother that I was a liar and a manipulator at 5 years old. It left me fully vulnerable to his cruelty, since no one ever believed me after that (I'm fully aware it could have been worse though, it never strayed beyond verbal, emotional, and physical). It wasn't until he snapped and almost killed my brother that the rest of my family realized that I might have been on to something. He then drank himself to death out of boredom. I was 14. I lived through 9 years of hell, of him warping my family and my life beyond any semblance of peace. Sure, my mom wasn't a saint either, she would blow up at us for the smallest of things, even to the point of violence, but she was always genuinely upset after. And she's since taken the steps to change, and is a much healthier person. Sociopath and bpd are two entirely different ball parks of messed up.
sociopathy has different degrees myself and both my siblings have difficulty empathising with people we don't know or have any connection to. this hasn't stopped one of my siblings from being happily married with a child
I am suspicious that my sister is sociopath too. I live in hell because of her (she turned into controlling, manipulative and violent bully) and because we share the same room, I have to sleep and stay in the living room now. I hope the lack of my confidence will not attract more people like that into my life (as they say, opposites attract). Better luck in your life and have a nice day!😊
My ex (28 years) , undiagnosed because he would never in a million years go to counseling, exhibited so many of these described behaviors… my daughter tried so hard to tell me he’s just not normal.. my son is presently angry with him for speaking badly about my daughter and I. She accidentally got into a relationship with a horrible narcissist. We tried getting him to,leave but unfortunately they had a physical fight and she lost custody of her children. I don’t think she trusts her own judgement anymore. She’s such a sweet girl. I feel so bad I couldn’t stop the train wreck. My ex has custody of her kids because he has the money to support them, and I’m not sure it’s best for them, but I have no say in what happens. In order to visit the kids I have o see him and it SUCKS.
My friend's dad used to do what he called "pistol shits." There was one window in the kitchen that didn't have a screen, so he'd just sit with his ass out the window and his pants bunched up around his ankles taking a shit down the side of the house. I don't know why he called them pistol shits since it was more like one of those sticky wall-crawling octopus toys, but I mean if that doesn't qualify for sociopath I don't know what does.
I'm married to and currently fleeing a sociopath. In a dV shelter. Everyone loves him and he is so charismatic. Nobody in a million years would believe that he strangles me. And he's not in a loud rage when he does it like you would imagine an attacker would be. He is calm and smiling the entire time.
The scariest thing to think about (aside from them very slowly and methodically breaking down their "significant other" psychologically) is how one of the stories described their abuser as "charming". Even as much sense as it makes (they probably know all the marks to get in with specific social circles), it scary that someone who seems nice and friendly could hide years of abuse and not only would that circle not even humor the idea, but they could say the same thing and have everyone on their side without question.
Aside from the $400 bill, that last story was mine too. To the point I was asking myself- did she date the same sociopath I did? It’s scary how similar they can behave.
I have a good friend who might just me a sociopath. HOWEVER I want to be very clear, he is one of the kindest people I know. He has openly admitted that he is completely unable to feel any form of sympathy or empathy towards others. Humans or animals. But he does not want to be a bad person. He wants to be good and do good, and he is. His family are super kind and empathetic people. His mom is one of the sweetest women I’ve ever met. So I’d say there definitely is a way.
Steal healing from a 2.5 year relationship with a pure narcissist. We started dating when I was 19 and he was 30. Yeah, I didn’t see the signs. The girl before me was 17. It’s been 3 years, and it still feels like I’m trapped. I clicked on this for the sake of catharsis, but I can never figure out if I’m dwelling or healing.
My abusive ex. Probably not an actual sociopath but showed absolutely zero empathy for anyone. I'm not gonna go into it. But, I'm now with a wonderful woman who has helped me heal so much. I'm much happier now.
My ex thought empathy was stupid, he tried to kill me by shooting me up with insulin. He wanted to see what it would do to me and to top it all off you abuse my pets in front of me just to see what would happen.
I've known a couple of people who were almost certainly sociopathic. Others have stated the same. People on the autism spectrum also parrot behaviors, but parroting in these sociopaths was horrific. It's different. When you notice, you feel like either you're watching a bad melodrama at best or a skinwalker at worst. I have no idea of what was real, or if they knew. There were stories that couldn't have been true to get sympathy, but the worst behaviors when they weren't charming. I lost my grip on my mind twice because of these people. While I don't want to see either again, I'm frustrated by the reality. It's almost as if experts writing on them don't have sympathy, but just know the reader wants validation. I hate that there seems to be a psych category of people we just can condemn. I know some can't be saved; I'm not naive. But I wish we could help these people if they can ever recognize the issue. But that seems to be difficult if not impossible. :(
The girl who got cheated on while pregnant: My husband cheated on me with my best friend while I was pregnant.She admitted later that she got close to me so she could get close to him. When I was 5 1/2 months along he brought chlamydia and gardenella home to me. I had to do a 9 shot antibiotic series and my daughter was born with mild to moderate cerebral palsy. Plus I was tested for other STIs and had to be tested for HIV every 6 months for 10 years, no other STIs.Definitely dodged a bullet. All of my kids are grown and we have been divorced for decades. To this day I am mostly celibate, I refuse to bareback and anyone I choose to have relations with must have a recent STI check and a clean bill of health.
Yeah... my ex was a sociopath. I didn't realize how deep the scars were until I joined a sports club 7 years later where a guy happens to be a lookalike. I started shaking and getting sweaty palms whenever I was around the lookalike. Poor dude. Probably a nice guy but I'd rather die then tell him why I'm uneasy around him. So yeah... seven years later and honestly I see this as a possibility to confront my trauma. Edit: No, I don't want to share what my ex did and said... I just want to forget.
Imo me the more you think you're immune to abusive relationships, the deeper your shame will be should you recognise you ended up in one and the less likely you might be to reach out for help. An abuser will find a way. If you have no known insecurities or weaknesses, they'll create one to exploit. I've always been the type to be on my guard and some people managed to break my guard. They ALWAYS find a way in either through kindness, obligation or cruelty, or their enablers may do that for them
I’m closer to the bad guys’ personalities from these stories and I’m always so pissed when I listen: they choose their victims. I’ve never had someone like that (so, basically with my same tendencies) approaching me for more than ten minutes, time required to see trough each other, and when I try to warn other women they don’t listen. Get a friend with a PD or on some sort of spectrum: we can see each other.
I briefly dated a guy that I suspect was a sociopath because when trying to get to know him I asked him what kind of music he likes and he actually said "I don't really listen to music" 😱 that might actually fall under the psychopath category 😂
i can't even, these people are just as broken as me, i have DID and that woman said exactly how i feel about myself, fragmented and lost of self what would i know about love anymore, when these men break and abuse that
I also used to think everyone thought like I did, but in the reverse. I thought everyone else was MORE empathetic. So any light ribbing or insult felt like a personal attack and profound betrayal. Turns out I’m autistic and saw everything as binary: right or wrong, no in between. I got better. 😅
I think there might be something up with my father in law but don't know if he would classify as a sociopath. He once euthanized his kids cat because he was tired of having a cat and when people die he is always shocked when people are still mourning after a week. Just a general lack of empathy.
@@desensitizedanalyser5624 of the sociopaths/psychopaths who really understand what they are doing to people (hi), who likes to be one? who would like others to feel miserable because some urge tells you too? who likes to have a person you might care for break down and being unable to help them because you can't even grasp what they are going through? who would like to be paranoid/on edge most of the time to not snap at people or to actively understand them because you don't have empathic immersion? The people who would like to be one are those overwhelmed with the things we desperately want. to really care and not to have to work on imitating it all the time.
Sociopath here. I in particular don't go around purposely messing with people or animals, but if I did, I don't think I would care in particular. In fact I know I wouldn't. I usually like this guy's comments but tbh on this video I just feel very misunderstood.
For story 1, how were the parents too oblivious to see that their 'evil' son was a liar? How dense do you need to be to know so little about their children? Definitely a parenting fail.
My ex boyfriend was a "psychopath" don't remember if he ever actually got diagnosed with it or not but he was probably the best relationship I had until the one I'm in now, he'd say things that were a bit off and acted a bit strange sometimes but overall he was a good relationship, like he wasn't stupid he knew what would upset me and he didn't wanna do that ever. It probably would have been bad had it been in person but we were an online relationship and I try not to think about what he probably was doing irl because we broke up over 2 years ago and he's since deleted his discord but yeah, i ultimately broke up with him because i was growing up and getting close to reaching a milestone age (21) and he never really showed interest in meeting irl even though we dated a year and some months. But we never have been on bad terms so I'm assuming that's why he's always shown me respect somewhat
I think some of these stories confused Sociopath with Psychopath, like the one about that a lot of "Sociopaths" become successful Doctors, Lawyers or Poloticians, i've always been told its Psychopaths that become successful highly educated people, not Sociopaths.
Ss a sociopath myself, I can confirm not all of us are like this. Mostly we just have no empathy and ar VERY good at getting people to do what we want, mostly because we are very good at hiding our emotions and putting on fake ones to make people happy. Not all of us are bad though.
makes me think if i am a sociopath. i do hide my emotions and am very good at it. but sometimes and only sometimes i would use my good skill to make people get what i want, sometimes the devil takes over, sometimes the angel stays in control, but i always hide my emotions.
@@xanderwalker676It's definitely less about emotions and the fact that you don't care how faking these emotions will effect people. I'm a sociopath, and if theoretically a friend I was close with died, I would be more or less upset that I had spent all that time getting to know them and now it's wasted because they're dead. Empathy is a big part of it.
Was married to one. He never physically hit me, but he beat me nearly to death psychologically. He did things pathologicaly, including setting up scenarios or moving/replacing things, for the sole purpose of convincing me I was "crazy." By the time i finally left, I couldn't tell what was reality or what was a "hallucination." It's taken years, but I've healed a lot. Typed this before story 6. That's exactly what i went through. Sociopathic abuse is distinct in a few ways from narcissistic abuse. Narcissists need the external drama. They often engage in those more outward, hostile, hotheaded behaviors because it's their supply. You see their behavior. Sociopathic abuse is the most insidious. Their supply is pulling a few strings, setting a few traps, and then watching the results from the sideline like story 1. They are voyeurs, not exhibitionists. That is what makes them so hard to sus out, unless and untill you've been abused by one.
@@seansullivan7928 BPD and Sociopathy aren't the same. But I almost feel like some people in the stories are quick to call their partners sociopaths without any professional psychological evaluation. I'm not saying I'm a psychiatrist or anything...but to me it looks like some people spoken about in these stories are showing signs of other mental disorders.Violent or manipulative behavior isn't just specific to sociopathy especially when seemingly other obvious symptoms unrelated to ASPD come into play...
That first one isnt sociopathy. Its attention seeking spurred by the fact that, as a twin, he was not special. In all likelihood, it was a bid to make a mark, some kind of mark that was his, on the world. Tormenting the other twin is also unsurprising, even as it was bad in comparison to normal sibling interaction, as that would equate to him resenting the other. The scapegoating indicates envy; how else do you make someone think someone who is actually a decent person isnt at all a decent person. Sadly, the fact that he succeeded tells me that he was blowing hot air; readily believing the scapegoating without even positing an investigation as to whether its true usually indicates favoritism on the parental's parts
You have it wrong. It sounds like people are talking about psychopaths, not sociopaths. Unlike psychopaths, sociopaths do feel emotion. While they may not have empathy for strangers, they can care about people, friends and loved ones. I have a family member who is a sociopath. He loves animals. Has never tortured them. Does his best to help out friends and family when he can. He has issues, sure, but he is not like the people in these stories. He does have a soul, unlike actual psychopaths, who love no one.
I’m not sure if this person is a sociopath or a narcissist or what, I’m personally thinking narcissist but I don’t know. She was a small youtuber that my best friend used to be a huge fan of. By the time this happened we already knew her to be scummy and wouldn’t have gotten involved with her but a few years ago there was a whole problem with harassment because she had this habit of sending her rabid cult of 14-year-olds after people who pissed her off. I am not going to get into details because this woman is like a freaking shark after blood, she doesn’t know this account is mine but if she happens to find this and has even the slightest suspicion that I’m talking about her I will not know peace. She is in her thirties but her entire staff and team are comprised of minors or people she met when they were minors. I’ve heard horror stories from people who used to work with her, how there’s two types of people in her team: those who worship her and would clean the floor which she walks on with their tongues, and those who are too afraid to leave. She’ll argue that she’s a good person because if she truly were so bad people would be leaving her staff a lot more often, except that people who leave, even for personal reasons such as real life getting busy, have been known to get harassed off of the internet for it. There is not a single former staff member that has a positive thing to say about her. I had the misfortune of being in a call with her to support my friend (18 at the time) as he confronted her about the insane harassment our other friend (14) had been receiving. I honestly cannot believe that this has been going on for so long without police getting involved but I guess that’s why she only works with minors and very young adults. She’s terrifying and we didn’t know what to do, I was 16 at the time, there were like 6 people in that call and not counting her, my friend was the oldest person present at 18, which she then used to get in his head, claiming she would call legal action on my friend for *something*. In hindsight, I don’t think she could have touched us but we were kids, we didn’t know that, she kept us in that call until 4am, we didn’t know what we were doing we were just trying to watch each other’s backs. I do not use the term cult lightly, I have been (indirectly) involved with an actual cult before, I’ve seen the horrors it comes with, I know what it looks like, what this woman has going on in her community looks terrifyingly similar.
People do know tha psychopaths/sociopaths or apd actually have emotions, right? What they lack is empathy... so they do not exactly connect or feel any type of way a bout other beings... but this movie cliché of having to learn and "simulate feelings" is bullshit. While they do tend to manipulate and perform a certain type of way to get what they want... they are still very "normal" per say and can be emotional in certain scenarios.
The less something like this reads as someone telling you something, and the more it reads like the narration of a novel, the less likely it is real. The more like it sounds like prose in a novel, is because it is just that, creative writing.
Yeah… this makes me feel more normal- to be fair I don’t think I’m in the antisocial personality lane, but I’ve been called emotionless before, most likely due to my calmness sometimes when I’m arguing. Like when I was younger my mom and I would get into fights all the time and she often called me heartless and stuff like that- oh well, just want ya to know I’m ranting right now- if any of you met me in person I wouldn’t go up to someone and say ‘hey people have called me emotionless, have you been called that?’ I’ve gotten off topic- those are some extreme cases, but it’s most likely not that bad always… I have a friend who’s a bit like that- likes causing other trouble, started drinking and smoking as a minor and never told anyone, would cut themselves for seeing blood and attempt to cut others, start fights and scam people into getting money and not feel guilty- I dunno, I mean as a kid I supported her in that-I was a rotten child ok? I’m fine now, and I never saw her do it, well the drinking, but in general I only heard about it from her. She’s better now as far as maturing goes. Ok, there’s my list of confessions and rants, feel free to reply or like- not not, I don’t really care. Sorry if that’s rude
Empathy is a front. For example nearly everyone on here will agree that child or slave labor is abhorrent. At the same time use devices produced from such methods to post online about how empathetic they are. If a person was truly empathetic about such a plight they would not compromise their beliefs simply for the validation they receive by posting online. Cognitive dissonance is real. Let me feel your hatred. Worry about your own growth instead of being concerned with where others are in their journey.
Yeah, I've never really understood empathy. I've always figured it's just the punishments you'll receive from acting "badly" towards another person. I've always seen it as you're more concerned that you'll receive consequences than feeling bad for what you've done.
Sometimes I wonder if my father is a sociopath or something similar. He has zero empathy, and very low impulse control. He also loves to scare and hurt animals and children, basically anything small that can't fight. He also loved to make me feel bad about myself, he would sit there with a glint in his eyes, smirking, while he made me feel so ugly and stupid to the point I'd cry. He liked to launch 'sneak attacks' against me and invade my privacy by going through my stuff, sometimes even stealing my things. To this day as a grown adult I get an almost trigger response to certain things, some common for abuse and others kind of ridiculous. He now lives alone in the woods because no one else can stand to live with him anymore. His mother pays his bills for him but she's scared of him and refuses to even talk to him.
That really sucks. I couldn't imagine how messed up it would feel to live with a person like that especially when you're dependent on them and have no where else to go. Hope you're doing better now.
I can't relate to all of this but the constant sneaking, stealing, and Invasion of privacy stuff I grew up with. If something makes me feel like that's going to happen to me again, I do get irrationally defensive. I think it is because I don't want to feel powerlessness maybe? Idk. The idea of a bigger person kicking a little person when they are down sickness me, it's sounds like you know this well.
I feel sorry for all these incredibly vulnerable people being preyed on. Zero tolerance for a single instance of these behaviours doesn't seem to be the norm, which is frankly a bit confusing to me.
Then again it's not like Avoiding Predatory Men 101 is taught in schools
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Also, anyone else really hate the way the DSM twists language to make evil people sound like victims? Just like a sociopath would, ironically.
They don't 'have a disorder', they're evil, they know what they're doing, and they enjoy it.
@@jelly434 you think they chose to be evil? its called childhood trauma love
@@aishidoveIt can also be in the brain itself. Psychopaths are supposedly born that way, but sociopaths are supposed to be made that way. I think it’s an oversimplification, but they can actually see differences in the brain in MRIs of psychopaths.
But environment has so much to do with how all of them grow up. Even psychopaths can learn how to treat other people and follow the rules when they are brought up in a consistent, loving home. T
They do know the difference between right and wrong, so I wouldn’t pity them so much that I would excuse their terrible treatment of others. And I can very much understand why people see them as “evil”.
I think that people can be evil no matter what their upbringing was.
My dad is a covert narcissist. I wasn't the main target of the abuse, but even being on the sidelines affected me. My mom realized that he wasn't a good person about a year ago. She retained a lawyer and is in the process of divorcing him. It sucks, growing up in abuse. I'm always on alert, even if I don't realize it. Loud sounds make me flinch and if they go on for a long time, I shut down. Yelling makes me fold in on myself. It's hard to trust people, especially men. I'm in therapy and slowly healing, but I wouldn't wish this on anyone.
Your comment describes my exact reality. “Always on alert” this, I can’t describe this fear. It’s just too much.
I'm fortunate enough not to have had that experience, but I was in a situationship with a covert narcissist for 7 months. It's a sucky experience.
The irony is that I had learned about narcissism after meeting her but before getting together, and I had identified a couple of other narcs in my life at that time. I didn't realise she was one until 2 weeks after I ended things.
It's been 2 months since the realisation. I'm starting therapy in a few days.
I'm sorry you went through that for so long and I hope you're doing well in life.
Yep, same exact situation for me. I stayed in it way longer than I would have liked because I had much younger siblings and I was afraid to leave them alone with just him and my mom. She wasn't as good as dealing with him as me and had a lot of her own issues anyway.
I'm out now, we're all adults and it's been years, but there's still so much to heal and unpack. It's awful. I have a wonderful life now but I still suffer a lot from growing up like that.
The sad fact is that no one is immune to abusive relationships. I found myself in one when I was young, and it was terrifying to realize how easily I fell into that trap, especially when I had been so aware of the dangers. But it still happened to me. People no matter their gender or age can find themselves in a vulnerable position and wind up in a very bad place before they even realize what happened. And getting to a place where they can recover & feel like they can trust themselves, much less someone else takes a lot of time and work. And it’s painful.
I like that the title says "people who have DATED a sociopath" and then the first story is about twins, lol.
not mutually exclusive
@@CandyKanna shut.
That's usually what happens with a sizeable chunk of answers in these threads. [question with criteria] [answer with criteria ignored]
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No fr I was like “pause 🤨”
Regarding the woman who studied psych and just knew she’d recognize the signs, she’s not alone. I was a mental health nurse for a long time and didn’t recognize that I had post partum depression, not even when I told my mother in law that she could go ahead and take my baby with her when she jokingly said she wanted to sneak off with him, that he was just small enough to be able to smuggle him out of our house in her purse. This was said at the breakfast table when our son was only 26 days old. My husband, her, and my dad just looked at me like "wtf?" When I reiterated my sentiment and that I was serious, my husband said "yeaaah, you need to call the doctor right now because things from the last 3 weeks are starting to click and from what the nurse told me to watch out for just before you and the baby were discharged from the hospital, I’m pretty sure you have post partum depression." The moment he said it I knew he was right. I called my OB right then and she kept me on hold while she talked to the doctor. When she came back on the line she told me to come into the office immediately and he’d squeeze me in. I had a script for Lexapro filled and took my first dose before 1 p.m. that same day. I should have recognized it but when it happens to you it can be difficult to see the forest for the trees.
The first brother wasn't a sociopath. He was a psychopath.
1st ad 2nd story are psychopaths, not sociopath
Clinically, they are the same thing. Actually, technically, neither exists. The actual term is "antisocial personality disorder," and both sociopaths and psychopaths fall under that umbrella.
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But one is ''learned'' behavior and the other, the person was basically born this way
Technically you can't diagnose a story but one thing is for sure they are all a danger to society. What separates a sociopath from a psychopath is a psychopath was born sick where a sociopath was a product of their environment like a narcissist except a narcissist will feel guilty from time to time where the others do not.
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Thank you for explaining/detailing my botched up explanation
That was what I was trying to get at
All sociopaths are narcissists but not all narcissists are sociopaths
But, some sociopaths, are not a danger to society as much as their close surroundings
Got the t-shirt, could make a living selling it online
I knew someone with sociopathy who was actively in an extremely abusive marriage with another sociopath. It was terrifying. At some point I was over at their house and his wife started shouting at him and I saw her hit him. No regard for the fact I was there.
pretty sure I’m the sociopath, though I’m undiagnosed. i wasn’t even upfront in my mind trying to, and still accidentally just destroyed someone mentally. for that reason, I make sure to tell people I have a lack of empathy and emotion, just so they know what they’re getting themselves into with me. being self aware about it is difficult for me, but I’ll be dammed if I’m not trying. i could genuinely be dangerous if I wasn’t so upfront about it though cause I’m so good at faking things to the point of being able to force myself to cry on a whim. it is really weird being so just blank though, especially when I get praised for things like high quality work or carrying my team in a game, because I just don’t feel anything from it. like I know I should be happy in those situations, but it’s just blank until I remind myself what I should be feeling.
Can I ask you some questions, if you’re open to sharing your experiences?
Hey if you're genuinely concerned about this I'd look into getting a psych eval, Antisocial Personality Disorder (the true 100% accurate term for a sociopath) is actually more common than many people realize with 200,000 people in the US alone being diagnosed with it*. If you know what you're dealing with then it might be easier to navigate life.
Edit: *this is a yearly number
I recommend a psych evaluation.
I felt trouble feeling emotions, people would ask me how I “felt” & I would answer “I feel hot/cold, hungry, other sensory “feelings”, rather than emotional stuff. Also having inappropriate responses in situations (laughing because other people were crying, or if someone was yelling abuse at me). Also the inability to comprehend someone’s emotional pain- someone would be crying & I would ask them “are you ok?” & they would say “no”, so I would ask them if they needed to go to hospital, & when they would respond “no” again, I would reply “so you actually ARE ok”. I could not understand why they say that they weren’t ok.
Finally, as an adult, I got diagnosed by 2 separate psychologists as having high functioning autism.
@@abbywolf9701 sorry I took a bit to respond, but as long as they aren’t like super personal I don’t mind.
@@arteria023 thanks! A couple of questions:
When you say you destroyed someone mentally, without meaning to, can you elaborate what you mean by that?
Do you experience cognitive empathy (understanding intellectually what the people around you are feeling, even though you don’t ‘relate’ so to speak) or is it difficult to gauge what people around you are feeling?
At what point did you realize that you didn’t experience emotions the same way other people did? How did you react to the realization initially?
Is there anything specific you want people to know about you and people like you?
I just want to say a few things so that people don't go villainizing certain things in these posts:
1.) practicing expressions is also something autistic people do because some aren't very outwardly expressive or genuinely don't know how to express themselves, and it can help them fit in better.
2.) Low to no empathy does not make someone evil or secretly a serial killer. There are many condiitons (autism, certain personality disorders, C-PTSD, etc) that can cause someone to have low or no empathy. I've heard cases of people who have suffered extreme trauma developing low / no empathy in order to protect themselves (especially if their empathy was used against them).
someone can have low / no empathy and still be a compassionate and caring person. And speaking of compassion: THAT'S what matters, not empathy. You can still be a caring person without fully understanding or feeling what someone else feels.
3.) Same with people with narcissistic personality disorder - or NPD. Not all of them are abusers and it's especially important to remember NPD often forms from extreme abuse. So villainizing NPD and using narcissist / narcissistic as a placeholder for "abusive / abuser" is extremely harmful for those who want to seek out help. Which is why we should stop using terms like narcissistic abuse (which dissappoints me to see the psychologist who responded to this reddit using that term.)
Also, the person who coined NPD wasn't even a psychiatrist and was super transphobic / homophobic / misogynistic, so even just the diagnosis itself should be questioned.
Oh my god.... this just showed me that the guy that's asking me to give him a 3rd chance is a sociopath
Edit: he gave me a "second chance " then to find out he was just making a joke out of me.
Stay strong ❤ I wish you all the best
You gave him a second chance? Well I guess we all learn at different speeds. At least you know now.
Don't
@@kilderok Your thinly veiled judgmental insult does not come off as constructively or nontoxically as you presumably hoped it would. Like, you realize you just victim-blamed right? Oh well, I guess we all learn at different speeds 🙄
@@ItsAsparageese Well spotted.
One of the biggest ways to protect yourself from an abusive relationship is to never think you're too smart/strong/whatever to find yourself with an abusive person. Anyone can become a victim, and that denial makes you more vulnerable because you think yourself immune. Always be alert and always pay attention to the little details.
Story 4 is very relatable to me, I'm currently friends with someone who I realized a while ago is a Vulnerable Narcissist, specifically. Detaching emotionally was difficult, but learning how is a very valuable skill. Now we can get along and have a good working relationship without me crying about being confused by his emotional inconsistencies all the time, lol.
How did you detach emotionally?
So a lot of people just say sociopath or psychopath interchangeably, but they are different. A lot of the people being described with a lack of empathy are people who show signs of psychopathy (lack of empathy and remorse) while people who show signs of sociopathy are people who express anger often and disregard rules or laws. Someone can have both of these and neither of them are true diagnostic terms, if you are looking for the diagnosis typically associated with being a socio/psychopath then that would be Antisocial Personality Disorder which can't be given diagnosed until 15 yrs old at the youngest and before that it's known as conduct disorder
i cant believe he dated his twin brother
IKR 😞
I love how you differentiate sociopaths who are aware and are working on getting better, to those who doesn't recognize their action.
My partner is diagnosed with Sociopathy. Not all of them are insane, crazy people. Yes, they have a lack of empathy and deal with that kind of things, but if they're *actually* trying to get better and support, you shouldn't think of them with the sterotype of a dangerous crazy person.
Reminds me of my brother: he's autistic, so empathy doesn't come naturally to him. But he's learned what he calls 'logical empathy', and the ability to be empathetic out of habit
@@byereality7492 Mhm I think it's telling stuff like the second story also just describes common tells of autism. I think it comes down to masking at the end of the day- both groups of people are doing it, but for different (if overlapping) reasons.
I'm glad to see someone in the comments saying something about how sociopathy isn't the end-all-be-all of a person. The things people describe in these stories are definitely fucked up, and I don't want to downplay that. I do think we overstigmatize low empathy/low compassion in people tho, specifically people who are trying their best but get pigeonholed into the broader reputation of EeEeEeeEvVvil sociopaths with no capability for connection or w/e. It's,,, rough, this stuff is complicated and painful but y'know, what else are we going to do if not try to be compassionate.
@@byereality7492 I feel like I should correct you on the whole people with autism don't naturally have empathy. In most studies it shows people with autism having empathy but expressing it entirely differently. And I gotta agree with the study. I have plenty of times I feel empathy for people. It just never comes over that way cause of the different way in which I communicate empathy.
For me it's a blunt honesty that often comes with a rational observation that can be entirely missing the point or the emotion of everyone else. Because that blunt honesty and rationality is a comfort for me. That's what makes me feel understood and at ease.
And just like how others don't pick up on me expressing empathy I don't pick up on other people expressing empathy to me. It feels like they're lying to my face every time they do it and it creeps me out. There's no blunt honesty there's just empty promises and cobbled up lines that are supposed to make you feel better.
And sure I learned how to do the same in a social course for people with autism. But that logical empathy and empathy out of habit, is not even how I express honest empathy. It often feels like putting on an act to appease the masses, just to not get kicked out of the group for another day. To have a secure spot. It's pretty lonely when people just assume I don't have empathy naturally cause I feel so much, in such extreme ways it genuinely affects my physical health.
All because I express it differently by nature.
Well just like anything, sociopathy is on a spectrum. It's likely the person you're with has mild symptoms that can be treated with consistent therapy. My father is actually a diagnosed narcissist and he's literally the best person in my life and always there for me lol, so these things are definitely possible. Just have to make sure that they keep going to their therapy appointments.
@@junrobin9335 Thanks for correcting me on this!
Hi, UnderSparked! While I'm early, I hope you can see this! I just wanted you to know that you help keep me entertained while I heal and draw. I'm definitely grateful that I found your channel.
these story's of yours remind me of the good situation I am in, and every time I feel like something has happened I either watch these videos to remind me of the good experiences i have had or i watch these stories of funny topics to make me laugh. please keep all of your channels as good as they are, you are legendary.
my older brother. He can't control himself, I thought he could kill any of us any time, would give innecesary s***** information about his relationships when I was still a minor, r**** me when I was 6 and he was 16 because "he could" and then (when I remembered because had post traumatic amnesia), he said he couldn't remember because of ptsd amnesia. If u don't know him like me, he's the best guy, really kind and funny...thats what everyone tells me about him and thats why they don't get why I don't talk to him or let him come to my house. But, thankfully, he's almost out of my life even if he tried to be in it.
Seems more like a phycopath
@@EmcoGaming I think so too...he has a lot of the characteristics
I am so sorry you went through this😢. I am currently in kinda similar situation, so I am searching for inspiration on what to do now in these comments. Your comment gave me hope that I can break free👍🏻
Have a nice day!😊
@@hehenika5122 U absolutely can! it's really hard but is what u need to do to be happy. The adults around me didn't know and when they knew, just my mom supported me so I needed to put boundaries in place because "my dad didn't know how" bs, u need to be strong to protect yourself if the people around u isn't doing it because u deserve to be happy and free in your own terms
I developed aspd(sociopathy/psychopathy) because of my Adhd, but it’s not necessarily destructive, the problem stems from the lack of regard, it’s like doing good or bad is the same thing. I don’t care about anyone, not even about myself that much, this leads me to form any sort of relationship only if i need something from them, i don’t engage with people nowdays because the effort of putting on a show is not worth is for me anymore because it can exhausting, only if i need money i contact people.
I love that in story 4 OP battled their faked emotions by faking emotions and... Yeah, I mean, they wouldnt know the difference would they?
One day reality hit hard, he had nice car etc. but everything children or I needed was too expensive and not important. And everytime going home felt like going to a work or prison after real work. So, I left that manchild but had to do it carefully and play along for a while. Still don't know what diagnosis would fit him but anyone doesn't deserve that kind of abuse.
Even if you like to serve your partner you still need to be treated like human with feelings and needs.
Stories like this make me think that empathy chip from Futurama needs to become a real thing, and anyone diagnosed with sociopathy should be required to have it.
@xmlstudios We're not talking about borderline personality disorder, dude. We're talking about people who lack empathy. And I'm saying we could stand to have fewer people without it.
@xmlstudios Yeah, they aren't the same dude. Stop replying to me please.
@@CJMoody that guy replying to you is truly a specimen. I grew up with both a (in my opinion) sociopathic step-father and a mom with at the time undiagnosed bpd. Both were harmful to grow up with, but one was definitely worse then the other. He convinced my, easily manipulated, mother that I was a liar and a manipulator at 5 years old. It left me fully vulnerable to his cruelty, since no one ever believed me after that (I'm fully aware it could have been worse though, it never strayed beyond verbal, emotional, and physical). It wasn't until he snapped and almost killed my brother that the rest of my family realized that I might have been on to something. He then drank himself to death out of boredom. I was 14. I lived through 9 years of hell, of him warping my family and my life beyond any semblance of peace. Sure, my mom wasn't a saint either, she would blow up at us for the smallest of things, even to the point of violence, but she was always genuinely upset after. And she's since taken the steps to change, and is a much healthier person. Sociopath and bpd are two entirely different ball parks of messed up.
sociopathy has different degrees myself and both my siblings have difficulty empathising with people we don't know or have any connection to. this hasn't stopped one of my siblings from being happily married with a child
My sister is a sociopath, then I went through years of awful relationships with sociopaths.
I am suspicious that my sister is sociopath too. I live in hell because of her (she turned into controlling, manipulative and violent bully) and because we share the same room, I have to sleep and stay in the living room now. I hope the lack of my confidence will not attract more people like that into my life (as they say, opposites attract).
Better luck in your life and have a nice day!😊
I love this channel! So many cool stories, and new ones every day!
My ex (28 years) , undiagnosed because he would never in a million years go to counseling, exhibited so many of these described behaviors… my daughter tried so hard to tell me he’s just not normal.. my son is presently angry with him for speaking badly about my daughter and I. She accidentally got into a relationship with a horrible narcissist. We tried getting him to,leave but unfortunately they had a physical fight and she lost custody of her children. I don’t think she trusts her own judgement anymore. She’s such a sweet girl. I feel so bad I couldn’t stop the train wreck. My ex has custody of her kids because he has the money to support them, and I’m not sure it’s best for them, but I have no say in what happens. In order to visit the kids I have o see him and it SUCKS.
My friend's dad used to do what he called "pistol shits." There was one window in the kitchen that didn't have a screen, so he'd just sit with his ass out the window and his pants bunched up around his ankles taking a shit down the side of the house. I don't know why he called them pistol shits since it was more like one of those sticky wall-crawling octopus toys, but I mean if that doesn't qualify for sociopath I don't know what does.
Sounds more like he's got a bad case of "Florida Man Syndrome". I would get that checked immediately if I were you.
i don't think your dad is a sociopath based on that alone - that just sounds disgusting as fuck flkjsjk
I'm married to and currently fleeing a sociopath. In a dV shelter. Everyone loves him and he is so charismatic. Nobody in a million years would believe that he strangles me. And he's not in a loud rage when he does it like you would imagine an attacker would be. He is calm and smiling the entire time.
I am a little unsettled by how much I relate to the sociopaths lol
That was truly impressive. And accurate. I’ve lived it twice over.
And I’m still kind of living in it unfortunately
Title: “have you ever dated anyone who was a sociopath”
1st story: “My twin brother…”
The scariest thing to think about (aside from them very slowly and methodically breaking down their "significant other" psychologically) is how one of the stories described their abuser as "charming".
Even as much sense as it makes (they probably know all the marks to get in with specific social circles), it scary that someone who seems nice and friendly could hide years of abuse and not only would that circle not even humor the idea, but they could say the same thing and have everyone on their side without question.
The psych student’s account was perfect. I knew it academically and anecdotally. Frog in the pot.
Aside from the $400 bill, that last story was mine too. To the point I was asking myself- did she date the same sociopath I did? It’s scary how similar they can behave.
100000% learned something!! Thank you! ❤
I have a good friend who might just me a sociopath. HOWEVER I want to be very clear, he is one of the kindest people I know. He has openly admitted that he is completely unable to feel any form of sympathy or empathy towards others. Humans or animals. But he does not want to be a bad person. He wants to be good and do good, and he is. His family are super kind and empathetic people. His mom is one of the sweetest women I’ve ever met. So I’d say there definitely is a way.
Steal healing from a 2.5 year relationship with a pure narcissist. We started dating when I was 19 and he was 30. Yeah, I didn’t see the signs. The girl before me was 17. It’s been 3 years, and it still feels like I’m trapped. I clicked on this for the sake of catharsis, but I can never figure out if I’m dwelling or healing.
My abusive ex. Probably not an actual sociopath but showed absolutely zero empathy for anyone. I'm not gonna go into it. But, I'm now with a wonderful woman who has helped me heal so much. I'm much happier now.
My ex thought empathy was stupid, he tried to kill me by shooting me up with insulin. He wanted to see what it would do to me and to top it all off you abuse my pets in front of me just to see what would happen.
I've known a couple of people who were almost certainly sociopathic. Others have stated the same. People on the autism spectrum also parrot behaviors, but parroting in these sociopaths was horrific. It's different. When you notice, you feel like either you're watching a bad melodrama at best or a skinwalker at worst. I have no idea of what was real, or if they knew. There were stories that couldn't have been true to get sympathy, but the worst behaviors when they weren't charming. I lost my grip on my mind twice because of these people. While I don't want to see either again, I'm frustrated by the reality. It's almost as if experts writing on them don't have sympathy, but just know the reader wants validation. I hate that there seems to be a psych category of people we just can condemn. I know some can't be saved; I'm not naive. But I wish we could help these people if they can ever recognize the issue. But that seems to be difficult if not impossible. :(
So-see-AHH-puthy is how to pronounce sociopathy.
Sociopaths are mostly aware of what they're doing. Accidentally befriended one..that went to hell like 2 years later so ran for the hills
Its really so common people completely confuse sociopaths with psychopaths,
The girl who got cheated on while pregnant: My husband cheated on me with my best friend while I was pregnant.She admitted later that she got close to me so she could get close to him. When I was 5 1/2 months along he brought chlamydia and gardenella home to me. I had to do a 9 shot antibiotic series and my daughter was born with mild to moderate cerebral palsy. Plus I was tested for other STIs and had to be tested for HIV every 6 months for 10 years, no other STIs.Definitely dodged a bullet. All of my kids are grown and we have been divorced for decades. To this day I am mostly celibate, I refuse to bareback and anyone I choose to have relations with must have a recent STI check and a clean bill of health.
Yeah... my ex was a sociopath. I didn't realize how deep the scars were until I joined a sports club 7 years later where a guy happens to be a lookalike. I started shaking and getting sweaty palms whenever I was around the lookalike. Poor dude. Probably a nice guy but I'd rather die then tell him why I'm uneasy around him.
So yeah... seven years later and honestly I see this as a possibility to confront my trauma.
Edit: No, I don't want to share what my ex did and said... I just want to forget.
Does having a sister that used you to get around can be a sociopath ? Yes I drive my sister doesn't
Imo me the more you think you're immune to abusive relationships, the deeper your shame will be should you recognise you ended up in one and the less likely you might be to reach out for help. An abuser will find a way. If you have no known insecurities or weaknesses, they'll create one to exploit. I've always been the type to be on my guard and some people managed to break my guard. They ALWAYS find a way in either through kindness, obligation or cruelty, or their enablers may do that for them
I’m closer to the bad guys’ personalities from these stories and I’m always so pissed when I listen: they choose their victims. I’ve never had someone like that (so, basically with my same tendencies) approaching me for more than ten minutes, time required to see trough each other, and when I try to warn other women they don’t listen.
Get a friend with a PD or on some sort of spectrum: we can see each other.
I briefly dated a guy that I suspect was a sociopath because when trying to get to know him I asked him what kind of music he likes and he actually said "I don't really listen to music" 😱 that might actually fall under the psychopath category 😂
A lot of these actually sound more like a psycopath, not a sociopath
i can't even, these people are just as broken as me, i have DID and that woman said exactly how i feel about myself, fragmented and lost of self what would i know about love anymore, when these men break and abuse that
I think my brother could be one ... I don´t want to let him in my life anymore.
I also used to think everyone thought like I did, but in the reverse. I thought everyone else was MORE empathetic. So any light ribbing or insult felt like a personal attack and profound betrayal. Turns out I’m autistic and saw everything as binary: right or wrong, no in between. I got better. 😅
I think there might be something up with my father in law but don't know if he would classify as a sociopath. He once euthanized his kids cat because he was tired of having a cat and when people die he is always shocked when people are still mourning after a week. Just a general lack of empathy.
Ooo lets see whats in store today!
I don’t need to know what it’s like to date a sociopath, I am one.
Same here. Though...I don't want to be a sociopath.
@@desensitizedanalyser5624 of the sociopaths/psychopaths who really understand what they are doing to people (hi), who likes to be one? who would like others to feel miserable because some urge tells you too? who likes to have a person you might care for break down and being unable to help them because you can't even grasp what they are going through? who would like to be paranoid/on edge most of the time to not snap at people or to actively understand them because you don't have empathic immersion? The people who would like to be one are those overwhelmed with the things we desperately want. to really care and not to have to work on imitating it all the time.
It is ABSOLUTELY traumatizing 😩😩😩
Sociopath here. I in particular don't go around purposely messing with people or animals, but if I did, I don't think I would care in particular. In fact I know I wouldn't. I usually like this guy's comments but tbh on this video I just feel very misunderstood.
For story 1, how were the parents too oblivious to see that their 'evil' son was a liar? How dense do you need to be to know so little about their children? Definitely a parenting fail.
My dad’s grandfather died and my grandmother used it to try to get back into contact with him.
NOT EVERY SOCIOPATH HURTS ANIMALS!!!!!!! SOMELIKE THEM BETTER THAN HUMANS!!!!! and sociopaths do have empathy. Psychopaths do not.
I'm a sociopath and I don't have very much empathy. Psychopaths are more violent, sociopaths are less caring towards other people/animals.
Antisocial means violent and manipulative behaviour with little to no empathy. Antisocial is psychopathy.
My ex boyfriend was a "psychopath" don't remember if he ever actually got diagnosed with it or not but he was probably the best relationship I had until the one I'm in now, he'd say things that were a bit off and acted a bit strange sometimes but overall he was a good relationship, like he wasn't stupid he knew what would upset me and he didn't wanna do that ever. It probably would have been bad had it been in person but we were an online relationship and I try not to think about what he probably was doing irl because we broke up over 2 years ago and he's since deleted his discord but yeah, i ultimately broke up with him because i was growing up and getting close to reaching a milestone age (21) and he never really showed interest in meeting irl even though we dated a year and some months. But we never have been on bad terms so I'm assuming that's why he's always shown me respect somewhat
I think some of these stories are about narcissists instead of psychopaths/socipaths.
I think some of these stories confused Sociopath with Psychopath, like the one about that a lot of "Sociopaths" become successful Doctors, Lawyers or Poloticians, i've always been told its Psychopaths that become successful highly educated people, not Sociopaths.
hmm this is a new kind of. Video nice
Not just any sibling in story #1 but a twin!!!!
i'm autistic, not a sociopath, and empathy seems so fake to me 😂 i don't understand it
Thanks for sharing your stories... glad you are all ok...and you have escaped from these predators and monsters ❤
Ss a sociopath myself, I can confirm not all of us are like this. Mostly we just have no empathy and ar VERY good at getting people to do what we want, mostly because we are very good at hiding our emotions and putting on fake ones to make people happy. Not all of us are bad though.
makes me think if i am a sociopath. i do hide my emotions and am very good at it. but sometimes and only sometimes i would use my good skill to make people get what i want, sometimes the devil takes over, sometimes the angel stays in control, but i always hide my emotions.
@@xanderwalker676It's definitely less about emotions and the fact that you don't care how faking these emotions will effect people. I'm a sociopath, and if theoretically a friend I was close with died, I would be more or less upset that I had spent all that time getting to know them and now it's wasted because they're dead. Empathy is a big part of it.
Was married to one. He never physically hit me, but he beat me nearly to death psychologically. He did things pathologicaly, including setting up scenarios or moving/replacing things, for the sole purpose of convincing me I was "crazy." By the time i finally left, I couldn't tell what was reality or what was a "hallucination." It's taken years, but I've healed a lot.
Typed this before story 6. That's exactly what i went through. Sociopathic abuse is distinct in a few ways from narcissistic abuse. Narcissists need the external drama. They often engage in those more outward, hostile, hotheaded behaviors because it's their supply. You see their behavior. Sociopathic abuse is the most insidious. Their supply is pulling a few strings, setting a few traps, and then watching the results from the sideline like story 1. They are voyeurs, not exhibitionists. That is what makes them so hard to sus out, unless and untill you've been abused by one.
10:05 that ladies hole story sounds like shes the sociopath
If anything she says is true, it sounds more like her partner had Borderline Personality Disorder than Sociopathy.
@Iamasmartass isnt that what sociopathy is
@@seansullivan7928 BPD and Sociopathy aren't the same. But I almost feel like some people in the stories are quick to call their partners sociopaths without any professional psychological evaluation. I'm not saying I'm a psychiatrist or anything...but to me it looks like some people spoken about in these stories are showing signs of other mental disorders.Violent or manipulative behavior isn't just specific to sociopathy especially when seemingly other obvious symptoms unrelated to ASPD come into play...
Yes. She's currently trying to "opswitch" me. Or at least I assume it is them or maybe some other psycho ex or girl or something.
I couldn't make it through the whole video, I made it to 8:58.
It was describing my first relationship to a t..
I over enunciate certain syllables including T like I'm parroting a human. I'm pretty sure its just cause I'm autistic though 🤭🙃
That first one isnt sociopathy. Its attention seeking spurred by the fact that, as a twin, he was not special. In all likelihood, it was a bid to make a mark, some kind of mark that was his, on the world. Tormenting the other twin is also unsurprising, even as it was bad in comparison to normal sibling interaction, as that would equate to him resenting the other. The scapegoating indicates envy; how else do you make someone think someone who is actually a decent person isnt at all a decent person. Sadly, the fact that he succeeded tells me that he was blowing hot air; readily believing the scapegoating without even positing an investigation as to whether its true usually indicates favoritism on the parental's parts
you know some of these are people who are psychotic not sociopaths.
I'm pretty sure my sis in law is a sociopath
You have it wrong. It sounds like people are talking about psychopaths, not sociopaths. Unlike psychopaths, sociopaths do feel emotion. While they may not have empathy for strangers, they can care about people, friends and loved ones. I have a family member who is a sociopath. He loves animals. Has never tortured them. Does his best to help out friends and family when he can. He has issues, sure, but he is not like the people in these stories. He does have a soul, unlike actual psychopaths, who love no one.
wow, this is a hard topic
I’m not sure if this person is a sociopath or a narcissist or what, I’m personally thinking narcissist but I don’t know. She was a small youtuber that my best friend used to be a huge fan of. By the time this happened we already knew her to be scummy and wouldn’t have gotten involved with her but a few years ago there was a whole problem with harassment because she had this habit of sending her rabid cult of 14-year-olds after people who pissed her off. I am not going to get into details because this woman is like a freaking shark after blood, she doesn’t know this account is mine but if she happens to find this and has even the slightest suspicion that I’m talking about her I will not know peace.
She is in her thirties but her entire staff and team are comprised of minors or people she met when they were minors. I’ve heard horror stories from people who used to work with her, how there’s two types of people in her team: those who worship her and would clean the floor which she walks on with their tongues, and those who are too afraid to leave. She’ll argue that she’s a good person because if she truly were so bad people would be leaving her staff a lot more often, except that people who leave, even for personal reasons such as real life getting busy, have been known to get harassed off of the internet for it. There is not a single former staff member that has a positive thing to say about her. I had the misfortune of being in a call with her to support my friend (18 at the time) as he confronted her about the insane harassment our other friend (14) had been receiving. I honestly cannot believe that this has been going on for so long without police getting involved but I guess that’s why she only works with minors and very young adults. She’s terrifying and we didn’t know what to do, I was 16 at the time, there were like 6 people in that call and not counting her, my friend was the oldest person present at 18, which she then used to get in his head, claiming she would call legal action on my friend for *something*. In hindsight, I don’t think she could have touched us but we were kids, we didn’t know that, she kept us in that call until 4am, we didn’t know what we were doing we were just trying to watch each other’s backs.
I do not use the term cult lightly, I have been (indirectly) involved with an actual cult before, I’ve seen the horrors it comes with, I know what it looks like, what this woman has going on in her community looks terrifyingly similar.
Story 6. 😢
I am the sociopath sibling
there are things called mental hospitals for these type of people
People do know tha psychopaths/sociopaths or apd actually have emotions, right? What they lack is empathy... so they do not exactly connect or feel any type of way a bout other beings...
but this movie cliché of having to learn and "simulate feelings" is bullshit. While they do tend to manipulate and perform a certain type of way to get what they want... they are still very "normal" per say and can be emotional in certain scenarios.
hold on…
in story one, the first sentence is “my twin brother.”
read the title of the video again.
Sweet home, alabama.
@@ARealLifePersondamn, that was quick.
I was about to say that lol
but the og post was “have you ever been involved with a sociopath?”
@@servantbee. ah, ok. makes a whole lot more sense (and is much more vague allowing for more unique stories).
The less something like this reads as someone telling you something, and the more it reads like the narration of a novel, the less likely it is real. The more like it sounds like prose in a novel, is because it is just that, creative writing.
Story 6: Whats with the poetry? That's really annoying. But i agree they should go be a poet ir an English teacher.
Stop saying unalived!!! It drives me crazy ! It's kill !!
He does it so that his videos can he monitized. Saying kill can demonitize the videos.
Yeah… this makes me feel more normal- to be fair I don’t think I’m in the antisocial personality lane, but I’ve been called emotionless before, most likely due to my calmness sometimes when I’m arguing. Like when I was younger my mom and I would get into fights all the time and she often called me heartless and stuff like that- oh well, just want ya to know I’m ranting right now- if any of you met me in person I wouldn’t go up to someone and say ‘hey people have called me emotionless, have you been called that?’ I’ve gotten off topic- those are some extreme cases, but it’s most likely not that bad always… I have a friend who’s a bit like that- likes causing other trouble, started drinking and smoking as a minor and never told anyone, would cut themselves for seeing blood and attempt to cut others, start fights and scam people into getting money and not feel guilty- I dunno, I mean as a kid I supported her in that-I was a rotten child ok? I’m fine now, and I never saw her do it, well the drinking, but in general I only heard about it from her. She’s better now as far as maturing goes. Ok, there’s my list of confessions and rants, feel free to reply or like- not not, I don’t really care. Sorry if that’s rude
my ex husband
1400 bill op why
*promosm* 😜
7th comment
If you want to terrify someone with minimal effort, just start practicing how emote in the mirror. Jesus that creeeepy.
Empathy is a front.
For example nearly everyone on here will agree that child or slave labor is abhorrent. At the same time use devices produced from such methods to post online about how empathetic they are. If a person was truly empathetic about such a plight they would not compromise their beliefs simply for the validation they receive by posting online.
Cognitive dissonance is real.
Let me feel your hatred.
Worry about your own growth instead of being concerned with where others are in their journey.
Found the psycho
Yeah, I've never really understood empathy. I've always figured it's just the punishments you'll receive from acting "badly" towards another person. I've always seen it as you're more concerned that you'll receive consequences than feeling bad for what you've done.
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