Death Stranding M1/M2 iPad Performance Review - AAA Gaming on iPad!
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- Death Stranding has come to M-series iPads… How is the performance and how does it compare to Mac? Let’s take a look!
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See raw performance here: • DEATH STRANDING iPhone...
How I measure FPS:
- Performance HUD: developer.apple.com/documenta...
0:00 - Introduction
0:26 - Supported Devices
0:34 - iPadOS Tech
3:55 - Control Options
6:41 - Playing on External Display
7:27 - Performance
18:28 - FINAL THOUGHTS!? - Ігри
I will look at Mac version maybe later in the week or possibly next week. Just need a break for a few days. Cheers
Hi MrMacRight. I know you could use your break, but yet I will try to ask. Since you have the access to the copy, I think a video about performance on MacOS would really help us here. The release is coming very shortly on our heads and any information about its performance can help the possible buyers to decide. Like myself on an M3 Pro chip.
I hope you will read this, and consider my thoughts. I do understand you are just a human like the rest of us, but the power you hold can bring us priceless information.
Thank you for your work so far!
@@petrmalik1700 why did bro write a formal email in the comments
You can turn touch UI transparency to 0 in mouse and keyboard setup
If anyone is interested, I’m playing the game right now on M2 Max. 21:9 ratio, 3360x1440. Everything on max/on. MetalFX temporal on ultra. Never seen it go under 60FPS. Usually stays around 70+. The FPS range is between 60 and 90.
I barely finished the prologue, I’m doing the very first delivery.
I play on external display, 4k144 with VRR and HDR on and it looks good. Difficult to compare with a PS5 on a big TV, also I’m not the guy you want to trust judging visual details. 😂
Looking forward to a comprehensive review video. Cheers, mate.
Edit: typo
@DavideDavini One question: Can you cook a steak on that macbook?
the fact that this runs at all on a 3 year old, fan-less tablet is impressive
it's also nice that it’s a universal app (& it’s only around $20 atm)
Nothing impressive about this at all when you consider the bigger picture.
These are only 3~4 token AAA games that are already old, when there are handhelds like the Switch and handheld PCs now that can run ALL AAA games.
Android devices can run AAA console games like Switch with emulation and those are fanless as well.
Apple is the reason why iPhones/iPads will NEVER be good gaming devices, let alone be a device to play AAA games.
Simply because Apple has wall gardened and gatekept iOS/iPadOS.
Think about.
IF Apple's Wall garden and monopoly App store was broken up and consumer was given freedom to buy, download and install from elsewhere this would give MASSIVE incentive for AAA developers to make their game playable on iPhones/iPads because they will not have to go through Apple's App store and deal with Apple's monetizing bull$#!t.
How powerful do iPads need to be until people begin to question how come there are not a whole lot of AAA games on iPads, even old ones?
It will no longer be a technical issue, so what could it be?
its a small world out there
@AdmiralBison the switch can run all AAA games?
@@AdmiralBisonits actually impress, apple did a good job when bringing aaa games to there device, android like you said its a open gate but why they dont have aaa game ? Because people can download from outside store, apk and no one will buy there game, apple had to close the gate to attract more game developer and force people buy there game
@@tranquility6789 No. Handheld gaming PCs can. The Switch can play Nintendo AAA games and some third party which is WAY more than the iPad.
There is no escaping it hey.
Apple is the problem why iPhones/iPads for 14 years are still not good gaming devices.
We can be here in another 5 years and ooh and aah over 3 old AAA games that sort of run on the iPad/iPhone while the Switch 2 and Handheld gaming Pcs play them all.
I pre-ordered this game for my M1 iPad Air 5th Gen. I mainly bought it to support developers of AAA games for iPadOS and iOS, but thanks to this review it looks pretty enjoyable! My iPad has taken over my other electronics.
No way
Me too, my iPad has taken over my other electronic devices
@@EricHoffmann I work IT, so I replaced like 3 Windows PC’s with this iPad. I use it for normal stuff, communications, emails, etc for work, remote into PC’s and servers. I take it home, plug it into the dock, and game on it with mouse/keyboard or controller on an external display. I edit videos on it. I use it to control the live stream for several events each week with camera switchers and all that. I also edit photos on it with the Apple pencil. It’s basically like 10 things in one at this point.
How many gb iPad?@metaversebuilding6188
@@EricHoffmann Is Ipad better than any other device (including gaming PC and console)?
V1.1.1 fixed A LOT of these graphical and stuttering issues. Ran beautifully with no frame drop and no thermal issues using my 11” M2 iPad Pro using an external display with the iPad docked. Incredible. This is truly an amazing feat to see on a tablet!
I cannot get past the shower scene in chapter 2 on my Ipad pro m2 it just freezes
Looks good for a tablet. I pre-ordered the game for my iPad Air. I have already finished RE 4 Remake and RE Village and I should say, it’s so good that we can play these games on such devices. I bought my iPad for my education, but I’m glad to be able to play these games.
your ipad 64gb or 256gb?
@@hatimhusaini2618 It’s 256 gb. I solved the problem by the way. Beta iPadOS was causing the problem, so I just installed official OS. It works now.
Rip battery
@@hatimhusaini2618 256
@@Roach23257 Nah. It lets me play for about 4 hours with full charge which is more than enough for me.
This is the future of gaming. More AAA needs to release on mobile devices
Divinity OS2 actually is a masterpiece
"Requiring a *total* of approximately 50GB of additional downloads".
Great video. Thanks for the capture work
Great review! Thank you!
Well, you sold me. Might wait a few days for the initial patches before I dig in (12.9 iPad Pro M2)
Great video as always. What’s your dogs name?
Looks okay for an iPad. Just got this for my iPad for mobile gaming! Hope to see more games in Apple!
He speaks like severus snape from HP
Isn’t it so good to see this kind of game running on 3 year old iPad? Let’s hope we see more of this kind of thing.
Not really, the m1 ipad has more processing power than the steam deck and a bit more tflops as well.
Okay, what does this game run like on the Deck?@@oo--7714
@@oo--7714 The M1 Ipad doesn't have a fan and throttles long term to the same performance as the steam deck.
@@oo--7714Keep whining. The iPad is razor thin and usable for work or school. It also happens to play games decently well. What is there to complain about?
This is amazing!
You can get rid of the virtual controller when using a mouse by turning down the opacity to 0. It’s a dumb workaround but it at least works
Saw the iPhone video for this. It seems the same with the frame rate drops at low 20’s whether M1 iPads or iPhone 15 pro. Only the M2 iPads are better and obviously Macs.
I think the most impressive is that it’s a universal app/game for three different machines, iPhone, iPad and MacBook. This will only get better, I really hope Apple focuses more on games in the future.
Can’t wait to play on my m4 iPad Pro!
How did you manage to get haptic feedback and adaptive triggers working on the DualSense controller when connected to an iPad? I've tried it myself, but only adaptive triggers seem to work on Mac version.
I'm looking to get a new iPad mini when it's released, but unless I see something more interesting arriving on the bigger iPads, I'll pass for now.
I'm a big fan of this game. I enjoyed 80 hours on ps5 and 50 hours on PC. If I have a low spec PC or not have a PS5, I'd probably buy an iPad version. The iPad seems to be struggling a little, but it seems to run relatively well. Enjoyed the video!
”Have a good one” :D
Severus is that you? Jokes aside great vid. Love you voice
Lol im glad im not the only one who noticed that
wow. It's not as good as it was when I played it on my PS4 Pro but this is still incredible. Imagine 3-5 years from now. Apple gaming will surely be significantly more amazing
Great video! The takeaway is, passive cooling is holding back all their devices when it comes to gaming. So then Apple should just make a gaming console when they’re on the M4 or M5 with an actively cooled SoC and the best performing and with the versions with the best fidelity would be found there. Save of course the high end Mac versions of the games. Apple has laid the ground work and a foundation for it all to happen. When you want to continue your game on the go in lower fidelity you can use your iPhone with a controller. Your save will be there. Or they could go the Switch route, make an actively cooled hybrid, but then the argument of having a portable version on iPhone would be lesser. What if they just made the cooling solutions in iPads and iPhones better going forward? They have quite a few options to really get into gaming seriously. Does anyone actually know what their gaming division is doing, are they just support for studios and Metal API teams?
does it work with the magic keyboard or do you need a controller?
Are you working on a M4 update for this beauty?
Have the ps3 n xbox bloom effect and im in love ❤😅
I’m going to get the iPad ultra
Just got the air M1 def gonna play resident evil while slow at work on it!
Nice paintings
Since now they adding support some AAA games on the ipad.. can at least apple lets us install game on external SSD and only games... with the base Ipad pro 128gb with that size is too much especially when u do install other apps/keeping projects file on ur ipad.
Hello! Great video. Thank you! Tell me, if I buy a game for iphone, can I play it on my mac?
Not necessary, biggest example - resident evil village. U need to check it from the games description if the purchase is a universal one. Resident evil 4 is.
Yes, it is a universal purchase. Your save will also transfer between devices.
Is this a full game playable from start to finish as in with its console/pc counterparts?
Yes. It’s the exact same experience. Just with a lower res and frame rate
I would like to see more AAA games on Apple 🤯
I would like to see an ultimate test on iPad Pro with M3 and later: Cyberpunk 2077 Ultimate Edition, to take full advantage of ray tracing and MetalFX TAAU on M3 family of chips, cuz I have a lot of college classmates holding Macs and iPads, especially those newer M1 and later Macs and iPads :)
Honestly i have not expected a huge fps difference between m2 mba and mbp. I never thought the fan in this machine could make a huge difference like this. Thank you, nice video 🙏🏼
fans always make a huge difference.
Are you delusional or something??
It's common sense that devices with passive cooling will run games WORSE than devices with active cooling.
You can put thermopads inside to spread heat on macs backplate and it's not stutter anymore. I have even found a 1.5mm copper plates and with some thermal paste and thermopads i have fixed no fan issue. Now the performance is like on pro. There are tutorials on youtube how to do it.
I saw a post in China uses the screenshots of your video without mentioning or identifying your channel, should I report him?
Obviously
It really quite incredible that this was ported to IPad OS. The differences we are seeing to MacBook performance will be a result of being fan less. The true power of the M2 in an iPad should do much more if it was actively cooled. I honestly think apple should make a games console at this point. Or make the Apple TV super powerful. Also jump starting the ARM gaming revolution
Hoping this works on vision pro
I am very impressed. Under the hood tech will get better and we will see improvements in the future. This is what Phil Spencer and XB was talking about. Gaming will be different in the future
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Hmm 54GBs for Death Stranding Director’s Cut is definitely the most storage any Apple console game has ever been currently apart from the 32GBs and 16GBs of the RE Apple console games. I think now with these massive leaps in in-game storage, we’ll finally see big storage CGI/open world games such as the Batman Arkham series or FF 13 series on Apple devices soon if Death Stranding and R34R are anything to go off of as Re8 to me didn’t have that many CGI cutscenes on the shorter RE game length side
I would have said “Great video Stewie” but I think you know that by now…I honestly don’t know
Resident evil 4 remake is near 70 gb on my iPad Pro 12,9 M2
I’m wanting to upgrade my iPad I have the 10.2 inch and use it a lot at work. For games and this. What would u recommend the 12 inch pro??
wait for the new ones, they ‘re coming soon
@@MLTAKOS not until the second quarter or the start of the third. But yeah still waiting a bit is the best option
@@Bruh01699 they are coming in march
Man, I wouldn’t recommend buying iPad for games, this game can be played with much better graphics on PS4 which is like $100 on eBay. iPads are cool (I’m typing this on my 12.9 iPad Pro) but they are not really for gaming. For starters you will need to buy a controller and make sure you keep your tablet on charge for gameplay sessions. Moreover, there were only three AAA games since last year - and they are from a couple developers who are known for bringing their games to M-series MacBooks (namely this game and Resident Evil series). Will there even be more? Look at gaming on MacBooks, one game announced in two years. No signs of enthusiasm from video game community paints a similar picture.
@@aafawfawfawf6272 he said he uses it a lot at work. You do realize that people buy iPads and mobile devices for things beyond games, right?
can i use my magic keyboard as a controller?
I can't hear any sound on iPad Air, any solutions?
what about on Mac M1 Pro and later?
Does it throttle?
The problem with apple is not performance, but heating issues, which the device then powers down brightness and performance to try and reduce it. Only time this doesn’t happen is if I put a fan blowing directly on the iPad to keep it cool. Even worse on phones
Im gonna test on my iMac m1 8/256
😁😁😁
I dream with cuphead and Hollowknight in my IPad Air 5 :(
Does it support impulse triggers on Xbox controller?
13:44 hey what's going on it actually can run pretty well on M1 Mac, both great resolution and quality, but pretty poor on M1 iPad? Are they doing this just to save battery?😅
😂
If so , then they should add with charger plugged in mode with more Wattage rhen device get overheated maybe then they should add time limit to that which they cant so lets just stuck with something else for a while
Cooling
Cross buy? I.e., can I buy it and play it on ipad or my MBP M1 PRO?
Yes, this is a Universal App - so it’s one purchase for all your devices.
Does it transfer the same data across the devices too?
hey buddy would plz mind making a video for Apple Macbook Pro 16" 16 Cores and 40 Gpu Cores???
He will do it in the Mac video
They should trademark "Sexy Showers" 😂
I bought this game today. I tried to play this game on a MacBook m1 max and iPad pro m2 16gb with a PS4 joystick. On a MacBook the game runs very well and looks decent, I liked it. The game looks bad on the iPad. I deleted it from the iPad and didn’t even bother testing it on the iPhone, I think it will be even worse.
These all look like memory issues for some reason. Out of the blue, your GPU times increase like crazy, like it doesn’t have what it needs on vram, so the GPU is late to everything. Fortunately this sounds fixable tho.
does support only in 30 fps? 😏😏😏😥
Great review. I'm thinking of requesting for a refund. I played 1 hour, but the performance is not what I expected.
You have unrealistic expectations for a game running on a phone/tablet with PASSIVE cooling.
🤣🤣🤣
@@PSYCHOV3N0M Apple's commercial footage looked a lot better than what I see on my own iPad Pro.
Haha I can't really play it on my m1 iPad Air really cuz it's got only 64gb of storage space
You can still try. Delete all the other Apps you rarely use (You can re-install them some time later! ) and leave around 60G on your iPad. I did this and play RE4 remake on my 64G iPad Air m1 successfully.
Apple still sells a 64GB device? JFC…
Your M1 iPad Air performs better because it has lower brightness compared to iPad Pro when you turn the brightness to MAX. I don't think it needs 600nit to play on iPad
Why would brightness affect performance
@@GreatistheWorld The LCD/miniLED screen on iPads consumes much energy. For example, iPad Pro 12.9 consumes ~ 8 watts even if at the brightness of 300nits(1000nits needs 20 watts). The device gets hotter at a higher brightness, which is easier to get thermal throttling. iPad Pro 12.9 gets throttling at ~14 watts. If the screen takes more power, the chip gets less power. Thus it affects the performance of gaming.
@@frankguIt's called Mini LED LCD.
LCD is a panel type.
Mini LED is a backlight type.
The slightly higher resolution on the 11” M1 compared to the 12.9” M2 is probably accounting for some of the difference in performance.
nice
I would have been more hyped if I didn't buy a rog ally. Still nice to see though
Waiting for No Man's Sky on iPad
It better be the enhanced edition
What about Vision Pro
Looking forward to the M3 iPad Pro‘s, hope they release a „higher Resolution“ mode for M3 iPad Pro‘s, currently it looks really muddy 🫤
The rog ally runs this at 40fps 1080p(no upscalling) at high settings.
At 900p is going to be 55 - 70 fps at high but if you know how to change the settings.
My ipad air 5 gen has only 64gb😢
Pass, next generation maybe
I wonder why apple strongy recommends (forces) devs to use metal fx when AMDs/ Intels open source tech is just better.
FSR is meh and XeSS is pretty heavy on my 2017 Nvidia GTX 1070 powered laptop.
MetalFX likely does better leveraged Apple's own products... one would hope. Even so the ability to use different AA methods or change resolutions and even cap FPS at 20 or 25 would be welcome... obviously, Apple wouldn't allow that either. They wouldn't want their devices to look weak... even though it's abundantly clear.
it's really sad to see how poorly implemented the touch controls are on these ports. just look at how xbox game pass games have custom UIs which sometimes even allow you to use direct touch input to scroll / move the camera and change depending on what the game is doing
I’m sad that it not work on air 4th gen 😢
Um gonna download it p on my laptop
The alien isolation game is the only triple A game that’s actually enjoyable on iPad
Why dont they just port old great games. No storage and graphical problems atleast.
And great experience for the new players.
I'd smack a peltier cooler on the iPads back over the SoC
they really gonna brag about it in the march event
Poor optimization, the graphics chip is not loaded more than 40%
is it playable on magic keyboard and trackpad? and if so do you still need to look at those onscreen touch icons?
Definitely not recommending any 3rd or 1st person adventure game with the trackpad
UI in Death Stranding is already a nightmare, I can't even begin to inagine the horrors of using a touchscreen to navigate it.
The iPad settings of iPad are best Who the dayone
but the framerate and resolution... i will keep playing this with my 180$ rx6600 in 144fps )))))))
honestly aaa gaming on m1 ipad pro (8gb) is just way too blurry to enjoy...I rather just stream games from xcloud
no HDR is a travesty
This game is boring to me but I did download it for my iPad to show support
honestly seeing this and the video on iPhone, i think this game might just be badly optimized.
I’ll never understand when people say ‘it doesn’t look good’…it looks FANTASTIC for an iPad Pro…cmon people, what were you expecting?
"for an iPad Pro"
That's not the compliment you think it is.
Keep reaching. 🤣🤣🤣
i'm so disappointed you didnt include m2 max performance, was watching the whole video just to realise there wouldnt be m2 max benchmark
It is an iPad performance video, and there are no iPads with M2 Max.
@@MathieuRohaly then why is there a macbook pro 13' in the video ?
@@yanmarinich3373the m1 pro is using the base m1 chipset. It is used as a comparison to the macbook air m1 using no fan and the ipad with no fan.
Apple is WHY iPhone/iPads will NEVER EVER, EVER be gaming devices.
iOS/iPadOS is wall gardened and gatekept by a MONOPOLY App store.
When the EU and other countries around the world break up Apple's monopoly, anti-consumer, anti-competitive App store and wall garden THEN you will see gaming really open up on iPhones/iPads
Full game stores like.
- Steam
- GoG
- Epic
etc...
will come out on iPhones/iPads.
This WILL give incentive for developers to make their AAA games also playable on the iPhone/iPad because they are no longer gatekept by Apple and monetized by Apple and consumers will have the freedom to buy, download and install from elsewhere.
Let's think about it.
The iPad at least is able to play much older AAA games.
So why isn't there a massive influx of those games on the iPad?
Developers would make massive amount of bank having their older games also playable on a huge install base of iPhones/iPads.
Consumers will also be able to "sideload" what THEY want on THEIR iPhones/iPads NOT what Apple approves of.
Apple is what's holding back gaming on iPhones/iPads because they monetized everything that goes through it and restricts consumers choices as a result.
BWAHAHAHAHA 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Why is there no steam on android then, or gig etc. There isn’t a market lol.
Imagine if apple products took advantage of expandable memory.. (Not counting icloud (i paid) or whatever)
Expandable storage.
NOT memory.
Memory = RAM.
Nothing impressive about this
This game is super optimized and runs at 100+ fps on my 10 year old pc on mixed settings (many options set to ultra)
It runs much better on even steam deck than this
Considering steamdeck costs less than 1/10th of these ipads, this is more or less just horrible performance and more evidence that Apple devices are just very low quality devices with poor performance and no futureproofing
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Eh, it is just this port though, the m1 iPad runs resident evil village better than the steam deck according to digital foundry.
Just to inform You THIS,
That Aaa game is working on Android pretty awesome, Like If you can play PC games Like God of war 2018 Pc version , At 30 Fps/40 fps Then It's Aaa game and You'll be wonder to know it This games run at very old Chip Like Snapdragon 870
Now It's Snapdragon 8G4 era but
Mostly pc games 70/80 Gb Android can handle easily just imagine in 2030 We all Android users gonna play 120 Gb games at 30/20Fps, And In 2028 Maybe Android can run ps3 games at 60 fps
Then you woke up
Learn how to use a period when you write.
@@PSYCHOV3N0Mguy is just yapping
Disappointed by m1 iPad performance…………
It is a AAA title on a fanless tablet
@@RiccardoMerloVeganhaving no fans is probably the main reason when the m1 macbook pro runs this way better, like it runs it better than the steam deck.
It's cool but very ugly on ipad
The game is shit and pretentious
this is a complete failure
30fps, low quality graphics, but same full price 😮 these should be 20 bucks, plus it eats up your devices storage.
Buy a Macbook air M2 or wait for mba M3 chip 🙃🙂
@@sam95bjk3 I play it on my Mac Pro 100fps @4k 😉🤘
@@MacSoundSolutions i will test it on my iphone 15 pro 😃
4 year old game runs like garbage on current Mac hardware. Quelle surprise
yea it's kinda sad, the m1 can't even get the performance level in DS like the 1050 ti which is it's biggest GPU comparison
Wut it is just locked to 30fps and hits it well it is stil running better than the deck at a higher resolution. But the rog ally is a bit better.
@@sxifster2144it won't when it has no cooling and uses 15 watts of total power, put 2 and 2 together. And the m1 isn't current it was released 3 years ago.
you do know that the m1 is 3 years old & ipads don’t have any fans right? the fact that this runs at all is surprising
@@fckSashka I couldn’t give a shit.
Terrible game - interesting concept doesn’t amount to anything when the story and gameplay elements are garbage.
That said, ignoring the game itself, this port done by 505 Games is… kind of terrible too? There are zero reasons for why iPad Air would display higher resolution (if it’s just few pixels higher) compared to iPad Pro with twice as much RAM. If the numbers you provided are correct, the worst version of the game is on the latest 12.9 inch iPad Pro with M2 inside. This is ridiculous. They clearly didn’t test it well enough, just did the bare minimum job and called it a day.
It also explains why the touch controls are so terribly placed (and, having played the game on PS4, I find it easy to believe that playing it this way would be impossible - you often have to hold multiple buttons at once). And the weird bugs when playing with keyboard.
I wonder if the game could play at a higher quality if ported properly. I find it hard to believe that low graphics 30FPS is all the M1 is capable of, let alone M2. The game was developed for hardware from 2013 after all.