It wasn't the 'practicality', Jesus was a humble man so it made sense that only the most humble and simple of the cups would be the correct one whereas the fancy, excessive ones were just red herrings
Also Jesus was a carpenter, not rich by any means and according to the Christian bible not interested in money so the real holy grail would've been either made of either clay or wood.
Walter Donavon is the picture perfect classic cinema villain, every way shape & form. He deceived the audience early enough in the film where you thought he was an ally until he strikes when the moment is right at the perfect time to show his true colours. Criminally underrated in my opinion! Thanks for your analysis.
One other thing that potentially corrupted Donovan is the nihilism of the times he lived in. He had seen the previously inconceivable loss of life in World War I, and knowing that another great war was on the horizon, was concerned only with his own survival and viewed the rest of humanity as doomed to self destruct.
Except that when it came time to acquire the Holy Grail he didn’t know what it looked like n trusted Elsa Schneider to pick out the right 1 only to b given the wrong cup which lead to his death
Even if Henry Jones Sr let the Grail go, you can see in his face that he'd be frustrated by not being able to talk to the 700 year old knight (maybe implying ppl are more important then objects)
I think the most defining moment was in the chamber with the Grail, where Donovan was meant to choose, but he didn't know which was the real Grail. Ever since he learned of it's existance and it's power, he was obsessed with it - he betrayed his own country for the sake of having enough manpower to get it. He was willing to kill a man with his own hands just to obtain it. But in the end, on the last step, he didn't knew what the object he oh so desired looked like.
He was attracted to the idea of the Grail, to immortality. He cared not for its history or meaning, and therefore didn't even know what it looked like.
Walter Donovan was a twist villain done right. Henry Jones Sr obsessed over the grail for the lore and its mythical significance. Poured most of his life over it, doing most of the legwork in uncovering the details on how to retrieve it. Walter Donovan obsessed over it because of its promise in providing everlasting life.. in the more literal sense. He had significant wealth and influence, but contributed next to nothing in its recovery, even with the resources which he could amass at short notice (considering his allegiances). While Donovan was able to maintain an amiable relationship with the Germans, he did not care for them, as it was all just playing cordial. They were villainous figures, yes, but they were a means to an end for him.. If he could acquire the grail for himself, and satisfy his obsession. What I also like about him as a character is that he does start off with a more noble demeanor; partially to mislead the audience in his true intentions, but also (possibly) show that he was once a more compassionate man. This includes the presence of a wife and marriage he serves in good standing with and donating various artifacts; the reason for the latter is likely because he doesn't value them in the same way as he yearns for immortality (the grail). The relics he gave away couldn't sustain him like they used to, as they are only material, memories of distant ages. The holy grail, as he sees it, is the key to outliving the war, the potential global conquest, and his own mortality.
I think that Donovan started out as a good person and probably his interest with the grail was first more like Henry Jones Sr. fascination but over time he wanted the grail to become immortal and became corrupted by greed. He allied him with the nazis because he needed their resources and manpower and not out of sympathy for their goals (Is this now good or bad ?) He could have simply used his own resources to start an expedition without betraying his country and could have drank from the grail to became immortal if he was honest to Indiana and his father about his goal.
3:53 Not necessarily. The Grail could presumably be used any number of times by any number of people. So there's no reason he couldn't use it to keep his loved ones alive as well.
i got a suggestion for you for this Analyzing Evil parody you got here. William Boone from The Jungle Book 1994. Can't really suggest it to yuor Patreon since it seems your page is gone.
I actually like that you do "Analyzing Evil" videos on real-life people (like Kathleen Kennedy and Bob Iger) and movie characters. Same with the "Analyzing Good" videos.
It wasn't the 'practicality', Jesus was a humble man so it made sense that only the most humble and simple of the cups would be the correct one whereas the fancy, excessive ones were just red herrings
Exactly.
Also Jesus was a carpenter, not rich by any means and according to the Christian bible not interested in money so the real holy grail would've been either made of either clay or wood.
Donovan was an excellent twist villain done right, and I wonder if his wife knew of his alliance with the Nazees, or was completely oblivious.
Walter Donavon is the picture perfect classic cinema villain, every way shape & form. He deceived the audience early enough in the film where you thought he was an ally until he strikes when the moment is right at the perfect time to show his true colours. Criminally underrated in my opinion! Thanks for your analysis.
One other thing that potentially corrupted Donovan is the nihilism of the times he lived in. He had seen the previously inconceivable loss of life in World War I, and knowing that another great war was on the horizon, was concerned only with his own survival and viewed the rest of humanity as doomed to self destruct.
Walter Donovan was a good villain. 10/10
Except that when it came time to acquire the Holy Grail he didn’t know what it looked like n trusted Elsa Schneider to pick out the right 1 only to b given the wrong cup which lead to his death
Even if Henry Jones Sr let the Grail go, you can see in his face that he'd be frustrated by not being able to talk to the 700 year old knight (maybe implying ppl are more important then objects)
I think the most defining moment was in the chamber with the Grail, where Donovan was meant to choose, but he didn't know which was the real Grail. Ever since he learned of it's existance and it's power, he was obsessed with it - he betrayed his own country for the sake of having enough manpower to get it. He was willing to kill a man with his own hands just to obtain it. But in the end, on the last step, he didn't knew what the object he oh so desired looked like.
He was attracted to the idea of the Grail, to immortality. He cared not for its history or meaning, and therefore didn't even know what it looked like.
I would say that Donovan should’ve let Indy find the grail first, but his pride got in the way and drank the wrong grail.
Walter Donovan was a twist villain done right.
Henry Jones Sr obsessed over the grail for the lore and its mythical significance. Poured most of his life over it, doing most of the legwork in uncovering the details on how to retrieve it.
Walter Donovan obsessed over it because of its promise in providing everlasting life.. in the more literal sense. He had significant wealth and influence, but contributed next to nothing in its recovery, even with the resources which he could amass at short notice (considering his allegiances). While Donovan was able to maintain an amiable relationship with the Germans, he did not care for them, as it was all just playing cordial. They were villainous figures, yes, but they were a means to an end for him.. If he could acquire the grail for himself, and satisfy his obsession.
What I also like about him as a character is that he does start off with a more noble demeanor; partially to mislead the audience in his true intentions, but also (possibly) show that he was once a more compassionate man. This includes the presence of a wife and marriage he serves in good standing with and donating various artifacts; the reason for the latter is likely because he doesn't value them in the same way as he yearns for immortality (the grail). The relics he gave away couldn't sustain him like they used to, as they are only material, memories of distant ages.
The holy grail, as he sees it, is the key to outliving the war, the potential global conquest, and his own mortality.
Very well said! Walter Donavan was a complex character, for sure.
Even the desire for immortality can cause even the best men in archeology to turn to the side of evil
GREAT J.J.PLAGIARISMS ANALYSIS EVIL 😈 WAITER DONOVAN FROM INDIANA JONES.
It's possible Donovan helped fund the expedition to find the Grail which is why Vogel was much more polite to him than Dietrich to Belloq
Walter Donovan chose poorly.
“General Veers, prepare your men.”
Should have analyzed Elsa, that treacherous little minx.
@@crowbar_the_skull I wanted to do her before I touch on Irina Spalko
@@j.j.plagiarisms7149Ive wanted to do her for 35 years! 😊
@j.j.plagiarisms7149 Did anyone know that originally Elsa Schneider was going to be the main antagonist and play a more villainous role
@@IHateHoldo So what?
I love his death in the film so much.
Last Crusade was the last good Indiana Jones film. 😊
And it's my personal favorite Indiana Jones movie
💯💯. Same here
Crystal Skull was the last good Indy film
@ Crystal Skull was OK.
@Wade_Tyler and gave Indy a good ending which DOD ruined
An awesome film, filled with awesome characters. Just and epic fun trilogy.
great video! you totally need to do an Analyzing Evil episode on Penguin if you're interested! that ending, man.
Since Lucasfilm belongs to Disney now, does that make make Elsa Schneider a crossover Disney Princess from Frozen? I say Yes. Yes it does.
I think that Donovan started out as a good person and probably his interest with the grail was first more like Henry Jones Sr. fascination but over time he wanted the grail to become immortal and became corrupted by greed.
He allied him with the nazis because he needed their resources and manpower and not out of sympathy for their goals (Is this now good or bad ?)
He could have simply used his own resources to start an expedition without betraying his country and could have drank from the grail to became immortal if he was honest to Indiana and his father about his goal.
3:53 Not necessarily. The Grail could presumably be used any number of times by any number of people. So there's no reason he couldn't use it to keep his loved ones alive as well.
What's the song called that's in the end of the video?
"Cities in Dust" by the Everlove
i got a suggestion for you for this Analyzing Evil parody you got here. William Boone from The Jungle Book 1994. Can't really suggest it to yuor Patreon since it seems your page is gone.
I actually like that you do "Analyzing Evil" videos on real-life people (like Kathleen Kennedy and Bob Iger) and movie characters.
Same with the "Analyzing Good" videos.
You sound muffled compared to your other videos. I know, because I've been binging.
Small, admittedly minuscule, nitpick but could Donovan really be said to have sold out his country if America and Germany were not at war at the time?
Then we got indiana jones 5 which sucked
Hitler wanted grail for power
Donovan wanted youth
Elsa wanted retain beauty
Henry jones just wanted to find it
Indy didn't want it at all.
Elsa wanted it for the sake of having it
Henry Jones Sr. wanted it to be in a museum for its historical significance.
He chose poorly.
A copy.
A poor copy.