I have a place in my heart for Green Day because it reminds me of being a young child in the early 2000s and watching my edgy, brooding (dearly departed) teenage cousin listening to Green Day on on his non-skip portable CD player. I thought he was the coolest and wanted to be just like him. I hear my 15 year old brother singing along to Green Day with his obnoxious teenage guy friends while he plays games online and I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s a young teen rite of passage to listen to Green Day and hate the world
The problem I had with green day is they didn't seem edgy at all part of it for me was Billie Joe and his baby face I couldn't take him seriously I was much more of a screeching weasel fan they had Mike dirnt play with them on one album but Ben weasel was what I needed
My band opened for them in Regina in 1992. Tre-Cool was dressed as a woman and was hitting on anything that moved. He stripped my hi-hat stand and Billie Joe left a $300.00 long distance phone bill to my singer's house, calling his girlfriend in L.A. And DAMN do they suck.
They also think the Velvet underground is punk. Which legit mak s even LESS dense. How the fuck is I'll be your mirror classified as punk but basket case isn't?!
When you said "Fuck Time" I thought it was about "Fuck the _concept_ of time, it sucks" and I was like "that sounds a little interesting" before you guys kept talking and realized "oh..."
Nah Blink 182 is the old guys writing for kids. Green Day mostly write about heavy subjects like the political climate and substance abuse. They haven’t talked about teenage stuff in years.
@@erickh6587 not the majority. They still have a few pop punk songs on every record but for the most part, there sounds more closely related to the kinks The Beatles rush and The Who.
Randomly stumbled on this video and just gotta say that I respect your opinion on GD. Its always fun to hear a different perspective on things. That being said, I have been a fan of them since I was in the 3rd Grade and they were the band that inspired me to pursue music. So im forever grateful to them for that.
I agreed with most of this but "when I come around isn't punk becuases it's mellow and radio friendly" doesn't hold up. The Song 'should I stay or should I go' hold alot of the same qualities of 'When I Come Around' and yet The Clash are still considered a punk band and 'should I stay or should I go' is still considered a punk song
@@BananaBoats161 there have been plenty of amazing guitarists who do vocals while they play, vocals should not dictate the creativity or difficulty of the songs, case in point Chuck schuldiner of death, even guitar aside Billy's vocals aren't anything worth writing home about
Yeah Iiked Kerplunk and Dookie when I was a kid but quickly grew past it and never bothered with them again. Green Day is the epitome of a band that kids just eventually grow out of liking.
Not true for me. Loved them when I was 12, stopped listening to them for awhile and still love them now (22). It could just be nostalgia but Billie Joe is genuinely a really great writer. And they have great songs (some bad ones too, but a lot of great ones).
Okay Genesis put out a double album called The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway... it's a double disc and while it might be slightly too long, it's still an incredible double album.
If you're thinking "Why would an American rock band want to put on British accent?", I guess after the '60s Brit. Invasion, you had U.S. pop bands wanting to be the Beatles etc. to the point of imitating the singing voices and sounding a bit British. Same goes for Bowie later. But when it comes to punk, well I mentioned Joey Ramone deliberately trying to sound British like Peter Noone of Herman's Hermits singing "I'm Henry VIII", but I think there's more reason for U.S. bands to sing punk in a British accent than that they're trying to imitate the Pistols or the Clash, I think angry British accents sound a bit harsher than angry U.S. accents, I'm sure a lot of Yanks, besides trying to copy the Pistols and the Clash, just thought that the British accent sounds more punk. I'm from New Zealand and possibly the Australian accent is even more harsh and dare I say "more punk". Midnight Oil is a good example. Then there's the South African accent...even more punk?🤔
All of your critisizm is solid. The reason why I love the music so much is because I'm 19 and I'm at a point in my life where most of their early music is very relatable to my life on a lyrical level. I love how the songs have an aspect to anger to them. When I play Green Day songs on my guitar I feel like I'm getting my anger out through music. But in my head they disbanded after 2004. Everything before nimrod is kinda sounds the same but I love all of those songs and I can listen to them over and over. Nimrod and Warning are great because they are musically more complex and the lyrics take a step up. Then American Idiot is great but I only want to hear those songs in the context of the album, I never just want to listen to Jesus of Suburbia randomly. They just should have moved on after that.
This entire episode could have been about Father of all Motherfuckers, it just had the rotten luck of coming out two years too early. I think I had some sentimental Fugees and Funyuns love for Green Day for a long time, because I honestly haven't enjoyed more than maybe three songs they've done this century. And after that shit show album and the singles they've done since, I honestly think they should be put out to pasture.
Indeed. Guilty. But consider this: it could have been good. It could have been accurate and funny. They seem like incredibly bright guys, so I can only assume that "crap" was a conscious choice.
I agree with your character assessment and their discography in general, but there are songs some of us listened to in our preteens. Shenanigans was one of my earliest introductions to "punk", it's true! No, Green Day aren't pioneers of the genre, and they didn't help me graduate musically. However, I grew up so far removed from western music and wasn't familiar with much before my time. I understand music very differently now, after years of heavy listening. The music I'm into now (and you can check my playlists on here) just wouldn't make sense to compare to Green Day, but I would never go after them!
Whatever proto-punk literally means, I took it to mean pre-punk e.g. comparable to later bands like Ramones or Sex Pistol, not punk in the same way, but I guess partly responsible for those and other punk bands. On "Is punk U.S. or British?", well the Ramones' self-titled debut was at the start of '76, quite far ahead of the Sex Pistols' and The Damned's first releases, singles, at the end of '76. I'll also mention The Dictators Go Girl Crazy! one year ahead of the Ramones and I would call that punk, not proto-punk. But the thing about the Ramones is, Joey was clearly putting on a bit of a British accent. I read up on that and he apparently said that he was trying to sing like Peter "Herman" Noone of Herman's Hermits, he may have named "I'm Henry VIII" in particular, which brings me to the influence that some '60s British pop/rock bands had on punk. I always felt "I'm Henry VIII" sounded a bit punk, but also "My Generation", I guess "You Really Got Me" and the Stones in general. I could go on, but I'll just say it's a massive simplification to say "Punk is American, not British!". It's that kind of attitude that makes me a little bit proud of the Beatles for having outsold so many U.S. bands regardless of how little I think of their music.
I still like the band just because of the sound I don’t look at politics for music wise because my beliefs differ compared to Green Day. However, I like this video. You guys have good points
They are musically consistent , and they never have claimed to be a punk band , they have stayed in there lane for 30 years and it's there job , they have a huge catalog that they make money from and touring is there bread and butter . Even highley rated bands like Queen ( the newly formed Queen with remaining members) operate on the same principles . Green day is trash now , but they know they will always have fans. American idiot was a decent album . But it's very dated music I agree . To give Billy Joe Armstrong his credit tho he was a pretty good songwriter, listen to songs like "she" . Especially since most of his hits were written when he was under 25
If Billie Joe's fake accent bugs you guys, you REALLY need to do an episode on Rancid! Depending on the song, Tim Armstrong either sounds like a Brooklyn hardass or a Cockney punker (neither; he's from fucking California). I like Rancid a lot but I'd love to hear you roast them. Also AFI, who I fucking love, but who in recent years have just turned into a Smiths tribute act with a less obnoxious vegan frontman. Thank you please.
My brother used to work at a Tower Records for roughly a month way back in the late 90’s, and in that short period of time, he got to meet Davey Havok (lead singer of AFI). I asked my brother how it went, and this is what he told me. “I went to shake his hand, and all he gave me was this limp wristed, faggy movement, where he just placed his hand on top of mine…as if he was waiting for me to kiss it or something.” LOL!!! I will say that the album “Black Sails on the Sunset” is one of my favorite punk themed records of all time.
Regretfully this came out before Father of all... because I am as sure as the day is long that the rant that blasphemous abomination would have sparked between you guys would have been the stuff poets hundred of years from now would have spoken about.
Nobody cared about Bad Religion back in the day. So many of these bands have more cred now than they ever had back then. Younger people just like them cause they are from that era.
This episode aged like a fine wine after whatever the fuck Green Day's done as of late. The longer their together the more damage they do to a genre they godfathered.
Green day used to be an amazing band, and one of my favorites. They are absolute trash now, but I will always remember Jesus of Suburbia and Good Riddance.
I was 12 when Dookie came out. I loved that and the first few albums before that, then I turned 14. Nope, just got worse and worse with every release afterward. At least on the first 2 releases they tried. Found commercial with Dookie and have tried so hard to stay radio relevant since then that it’s just pathetic
I still like Dookie, and am lukewarm on Nimrod, but goddamn when I heard grenade-album, I realized I was over that band. Worth noting, I was still a teenager when I heard that.
@@zackspiker_ The lyrics went down hill and sound became generic once they became ultra political. Dookie is overrated, Insomniac was their best album, Nimrod was decent and Waiting was good enough. American Idiot sounded more generic and it affected 90% of their releases after it. That album was ok for what it was at the time. White Stripes were also always shit. A lot of bands weren't very good.
I was a teen in the 1990s, & I vividly remember the moment I lost intetest in this band. I was in college, Warning came out, I bought it then after a few songs I thought "this is a weak watered down version of Dookie. Meh. Well THAT wont happen again.." then, few years later Nimrod came out, I bought it, after a few songs I said "FUCK, they did it again😑!!!!" Havent bought their albums since then. When I heard Nirmrod I realized they are the McDonalds of punk rock.
I love old green day stuff from 1991-2000, I mostly hate all of the popular green day songs, i hate all of the American idiot songs except for governator and I love the underrated stuff from 1991-2000 the most.
Green Day= hit me with your best shot + Boston.... You could throw in: love is a battle field + One Way Or Another Mainly Pat Benatar + Tom Sholz "Rockman" (LOL precanned guitar tone
From a green day fan, I agree billy joe not good at live, and I also dont like his political veiws, and their new stuff is not that good. But im still a fan because nimrod sounds good, but thats just my opinion.
Lmao, about the Fuck Time argument: On Kerplunk- their secong album- they have the song "Dominated Love Slave" written by Tre Cool which is a self explanatory filler track literally put to a country instrumental with Tre putting on a Southern accent. That's the 6th track on the album. They got it right the first time but couldn't do it right 20 years later. After Green Day's gimmick stops being them being stupid kids making catchy music, I really start loosing interest, honestly
12:25 mike was just being funny and that’s like the funniest part of the vid. I hate these podcasts and they are toxic to great bands. Like how could you say Led Zeppelin is a bad band you don’t have to like them but they are still a great band along with a ton of other people you guys say suck
Did you watch their led Zeppelin episode? They basically said that "this is the best rock and roll can do as a genre but it doesn't mean they can't suck" take what you will from that
I used to be a big fan of them when I was 12 and arguably didn't know any better, or anything else for that matter. Lately I relish in people dragging them, even though they're honestly one of the easiest bands in the world to mock. You guys nailed it with this one.
This was a great listen. I remember fawning over them and listening to most of their discography up until 21st CB, as I never really found myself interested with their later albums. I watched "funny moments" compilations and always thought I wanted to be a rockstar like them, someday. Of course, after months of listening exclusively to them almost non-stop, I got bored and ventured out for greener pasture. I dipped my toes into other artists and bands. I never really had another "favorite band" after GD again, because I realized I would fall into the same pattern of infatuation and disillusion. And that's where I stand today... It was nice to look at a band I once unconditionally admired with a new set of eyes. I don't have much clue about how and whatever's going on in politics, so I never found myself really siding with Billie's ideals and chants of "No Trump", all that crap. I also hate the debate of whether or not a band is truly "punk" and has "sold out", so I was glad I'm not alone in sharing that sentiment. I think the idea of being a "punk" or embodying it is gimmicky, edgy, and stupid. I simply looked at GD as a "rock band", nothing more or less. One thing I was not ready to learn was the fact that they had plagiarized many songs from other artists. I thought it was only few and between, like Warning and Broken Dreams. So yeah...that was quite something.
I was like fuck this at first, not gonna change my mind at green day but I damn near busted a gut at what are you mad about? Has me wanting to check out more of your stuff XD
Green Day is awesome, but so is hearing someone who in elementary school sat with his friends to see who could sing like "Billie Joe the best." and also felt like if you wanted to kiss a girl, you had to have a Billie Joe impression, shit all over them on a podcast. This is fun.
a whole half hour and almost no actual points were made about their music all you did was insult superfluous shit that has nothing to do with the quality of their songs. Also, American Idiot isn't all that politically charged but you conveniently gave no mention to 21st Century Breakdown which is an overtly politically charged album
@@kishwarhasin803 I like Green Day and I don’t care what people say about me or them but this just seems too pushed. Like the stuff they say about them seems like there trying to much to say bad things about them. Idk
i heard fuck time for the first time and i honestly like it. i can't forgive how they treat others though, so i'm not stupid. but there are a lot of personally unlikable musicians just like this who happen to make good music. Mozart was a fucking brat but i don't hear the music world complain about him. (probly cause he's dead). basically yes i still like their music, and that's by choice. i probly won't be going to concerts or buy albums cause i never did anyway from not having money as a kid. that's what free download converters are for. edit: sucks that they stole shit but honestly i still like those songs anyway and didn't even know they were similar to other songs. i still don't think their music's shitty overall and i'm an outcast with alota thing in life
Honestly, I really enjoy their discography from their debut to about 2004. I feel like as a pop punk band, their music isn’t the worst and it’s not really bad enough to skip past if it shows up on Pandora or my Spotify shuffle. I feel like Jimmy Eat World faced a similar problem, but they avoided it by “growing up” with their audience. Bleed American and Futures were standard fare pop punk albums but their later albums don’t really stick to that ear friendly music which made them famous. The same applies to Hawthorne Heights after Casey Calvert died.
I remember when Green Day first record came out. I was bored to tears. Another cliche' band with no soul and I can't remember one song, just like so many bands
I’m 24 I’ve lived greenday since day one Fuck you I love greenday! My favorite song is “Oh love” because it proves all along he could have don’t pop and radio hits by hitting 1 high note and chose this style. They did what they wanted and love what they do and fight for the underdog, that’s exactly why they’re a great band and should not get near the hate nickelback does and currently in 2023 it’s close. I will always defend this bad till I freaking drop and will die with a greenday heart grande tattoo
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Billie Joe Armstrong go to rehab lol alchy fuckboy
@t4yl3z080805 I feel that.
I did not die.
Nathan Sciarone fuck you mate
David Spade was like “I thought Green Day was cool until I realized they weren’t British”
Damn LMAO
I have a somewhat similar view of them as Mister David spade. I was into greenday until I realized they weren't actually punk.
Sounds like a deep guy.
I loved green day, then i turned 14
This is the way
My story on a nutshell
I was 13 and i didn't like them anymore by the time i was 14. I liked new Kids on the block longer...
I hated Green Day... and I still hate them
LMAO
Don't forget that their biggest hit, their Signature Song, "Basketcase" is straight up Pachelbel's Canon in D Major.
Billy's singing melody is surprisingly similar to the melody in this classical piece.
I have a place in my heart for Green Day because it reminds me of being a young child in the early 2000s and watching my edgy, brooding (dearly departed) teenage cousin listening to Green Day on on his non-skip portable CD player. I thought he was the coolest and wanted to be just like him. I hear my 15 year old brother singing along to Green Day with his obnoxious teenage guy friends while he plays games online and I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s a young teen rite of passage to listen to Green Day and hate the world
Ah the 2000's. The worst decade.
The problem I had with green day is they didn't seem edgy at all part of it for me was Billie Joe and his baby face I couldn't take him seriously I was much more of a screeching weasel fan they had Mike dirnt play with them on one album but Ben weasel was what I needed
Bevis and Butt-head with an education. Great podcasts.
@P K Butt-head's illiterate best friend.
Haha
Such a good comparison! I'm addicted to this series now after this episode, such a good idea.
My band opened for them in Regina in 1992. Tre-Cool was dressed as a woman and was hitting on anything that moved. He stripped my hi-hat stand and Billie Joe left a $300.00 long distance phone bill to my singer's house, calling his girlfriend in L.A. And DAMN do they suck.
Fat lie
Bullshit I don’t like these dudes but this just reeks of bullshit
@@chasemorley4091 Unfortunately, it isn't.
@@Plutonic_Blue Funny how things go.
@Chris Seymour Why do you think I want people to know who I am? That's weird.
I love Green Day, but it's fun to hear others opinions that are different than yours.
Whattyatalkinbeet? Greenday do suck ass..
@@nathansciarone5627 they used to be good but they are complete shit now
I call Green Day FratPunk... It's not exactly punk, but almost every frat bro seems to love it.
Well, then you're stupid. How does it feel to be stupid?
Ew
LOL. The people in the comments section are like people who think wrestling is real.
They also think the Velvet underground is punk. Which legit mak s even LESS dense. How the fuck is I'll be your mirror classified as punk but basket case isn't?!
This is my favorite band but this is really entertaining I know Im gonna just binge watch all of these
Your favorite band sucks
I will never believe you Daniel Walsh
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hahahahahhahahahaha your favorite band is greenday wtf is wrong with you
@@DazeyChaineMusic he isn't poser like you thats what wrong with him
When you said "Fuck Time" I thought it was about "Fuck the _concept_ of time, it sucks" and I was like "that sounds a little interesting" before you guys kept talking and realized "oh..."
Haha same 😂
Glad I am not the only person who feels this way.
I live in Ecuador, and there's a McDonald's down the street from my apartment.
A bunch of 12 year olds are gonna be mad!
Lucky for us i have sheilds
Bick look just cause I’m 13 don’t mean I like them because I’m ‘edgy’ I genuinely love their music
Hahaha
FUCK YOU
I’m 13
Nah Blink 182 is the old guys writing for kids. Green Day mostly write about heavy subjects like the political climate and substance abuse. They haven’t talked about teenage stuff in years.
Their sound is targeted for teens though
@@erickh6587 not the majority. They still have a few pop punk songs on every record but for the most part, there sounds more closely related to the kinks The Beatles rush and The Who.
@@K37-h1z I don’t have nostalgia for Green Day. They’re just excellent
Love this podcast my hatred for the chilli peppers brought me here keep up the good work
You should roast Avenged sevenfold
Wolf 90 no
@@heavymetalcompilations4784 mhm
I lost all respect for A7X when they became a Call of Duty rock band.
Please do. Fucking trash radio rock.
Wolf 90 mm
I was laughing so hard at the vagina part 😂
Yeah they're more Avril Lavigne punk.
Randomly stumbled on this video and just gotta say that I respect your opinion on GD. Its always fun to hear a different perspective on things. That being said, I have been a fan of them since I was in the 3rd Grade and they were the band that inspired me to pursue music. So im forever grateful to them for that.
I agreed with most of this but "when I come around isn't punk becuases it's mellow and radio friendly" doesn't hold up. The Song 'should I stay or should I go' hold alot of the same qualities of 'When I Come Around' and yet The Clash are still considered a punk band and 'should I stay or should I go' is still considered a punk song
of course it is, this is all bullshit
I can't stand that song
I mean, I still dig em
no
@@YourFavoriteBandSucksPodcast yea
I was just innocently go through life happily oblivious to the fact Fuck Time existed. Thanks guys.
Same here. Holy cringe.... I made it about 35 seconds before turning it off.
Every photo I've seen of Billy Joe playing guitar, he's doing a basic power chord
@@BananaBoats161 i wouldnt call his guitar skills amazing
@@BananaBoats161 I wouldn't call his singing skills amazing
@@BananaBoats161 there have been plenty of amazing guitarists who do vocals while they play, vocals should not dictate the creativity or difficulty of the songs, case in point Chuck schuldiner of death, even guitar aside Billy's vocals aren't anything worth writing home about
Saying music is bad just because artists use power chords or four chord structures is the musical equivalent of phone bad book good
Brian Stucki yeah, but that doesn’t make their music any better. It’s still a pice if shit
Yeah Iiked Kerplunk and Dookie when I was a kid but quickly grew past it and never bothered with them again. Green Day is the epitome of a band that kids just eventually grow out of liking.
Not true for me. Loved them when I was 12, stopped listening to them for awhile and still love them now (22). It could just be nostalgia but Billie Joe is genuinely a really great writer. And they have great songs (some bad ones too, but a lot of great ones).
Growing up listening to Black Flag and the Misfits, I couldn't stand one second of this awful pop garbage.
man green day was the absolute shit when i was 11. anyone past the age of 16 listening to green day probably needs help
No.
I am 54 and still listen to green day once in a while
Yes! I totally agree. Green day are tween mall rock / corporate pop punk.
I don't need help
@@gerardway4562 your username is gerard way. you need more than help if you are over 13 😂
I love Green Day, I won’t defend them bc I don’t care enough, and I’m pretty sure they don’t care either
Okay Genesis put out a double album called The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway... it's a double disc and while it might be slightly too long, it's still an incredible double album.
Their first album and Dookie are good albums. Everything else is either the same as the others, or outright terrible.
dookie is dookie
Who wrote Holden caulfield I wrote Holden caulfield
If you're thinking "Why would an American rock band want to put on British accent?", I guess after the '60s Brit. Invasion, you had U.S. pop bands wanting to be the Beatles etc. to the point of imitating the singing voices and sounding a bit British. Same goes for Bowie later. But when it comes to punk, well I mentioned Joey Ramone deliberately trying to sound British like Peter Noone of Herman's Hermits singing "I'm Henry VIII", but I think there's more reason for U.S. bands to sing punk in a British accent than that they're trying to imitate the Pistols or the Clash, I think angry British accents sound a bit harsher than angry U.S. accents, I'm sure a lot of Yanks, besides trying to copy the Pistols and the Clash, just thought that the British accent sounds more punk. I'm from New Zealand and possibly the Australian accent is even more harsh and dare I say "more punk". Midnight Oil is a good example. Then there's the South African accent...even more punk?🤔
All of your critisizm is solid. The reason why I love the music so much is because I'm 19 and I'm at a point in my life where most of their early music is very relatable to my life on a lyrical level. I love how the songs have an aspect to anger to them. When I play Green Day songs on my guitar I feel like I'm getting my anger out through music. But in my head they disbanded after 2004. Everything before nimrod is kinda sounds the same but I love all of those songs and I can listen to them over and over. Nimrod and Warning are great because they are musically more complex and the lyrics take a step up. Then American Idiot is great but I only want to hear those songs in the context of the album, I never just want to listen to Jesus of Suburbia randomly. They just should have moved on after that.
This entire episode could have been about Father of all Motherfuckers, it just had the rotten luck of coming out two years too early. I think I had some sentimental Fugees and Funyuns love for Green Day for a long time, because I honestly haven't enjoyed more than maybe three songs they've done this century. And after that shit show album and the singles they've done since, I honestly think they should be put out to pasture.
Wtf you guys are idiots greenday has lots of hits what have you ever done with your life besides talk mad crap.
Greenday is absolutely the most overrated band ever since they came out 🤦🏼♀️ “don’t wanna be an American idiot!!!” Omg so deep. They get me. 🤦🏼♀️
Except they were one of the most idiotic Ramonescore bands I ever heard lol
Annnnnd in typical Green Day fan fashion, they have no sense of humor and took this video way too seriously
Indeed. Guilty. But consider this: it could have been good. It could have been accurate and funny. They seem like incredibly bright guys, so I can only assume that "crap" was a conscious choice.
Death is my favourite band
Make fun of them
I'd pay a fat hundo to listen to Tyler or Mark vocalize the riffs on the Leprosy album.
That’s a hard one...every single album they’ve released is amazing.
They're dead.
@@vinceneilisfat431 no kidding
I agree with your character assessment and their discography in general, but there are songs some of us listened to in our preteens. Shenanigans was one of my earliest introductions to "punk", it's true! No, Green Day aren't pioneers of the genre, and they didn't help me graduate musically. However, I grew up so far removed from western music and wasn't familiar with much before my time. I understand music very differently now, after years of heavy listening. The music I'm into now (and you can check my playlists on here) just wouldn't make sense to compare to Green Day, but I would never go after them!
Insomniac is still pretty fire IMO but I get it 🤣
minute in and I'm already choking on my food lol
Whatever proto-punk literally means, I took it to mean pre-punk e.g. comparable to later bands like Ramones or Sex Pistol, not punk in the same way, but I guess partly responsible for those and other punk bands.
On "Is punk U.S. or British?", well the Ramones' self-titled debut was at the start of '76, quite far ahead of the Sex Pistols' and The Damned's first releases, singles, at the end of '76. I'll also mention The Dictators Go Girl Crazy! one year ahead of the Ramones and I would call that punk, not proto-punk. But the thing about the Ramones is, Joey was clearly putting on a bit of a British accent. I read up on that and he apparently said that he was trying to sing like Peter "Herman" Noone of Herman's Hermits, he may have named "I'm Henry VIII" in particular, which brings me to the influence that some '60s British pop/rock bands had on punk. I always felt "I'm Henry VIII" sounded a bit punk, but also "My Generation", I guess "You Really Got Me" and the Stones in general. I could go on, but I'll just say it's a massive simplification to say "Punk is American, not British!". It's that kind of attitude that makes me a little bit proud of the Beatles for having outsold so many U.S. bands regardless of how little I think of their music.
I still like the band just because of the sound I don’t look at politics for music wise because my beliefs differ compared to Green Day. However, I like this video. You guys have good points
If that's the sound you like you should listen to more music
@@aryavart296 I do
holy shit this channel is growing lol
They are musically consistent , and they never have claimed to be a punk band , they have stayed in there lane for 30 years and it's there job , they have a huge catalog that they make money from and touring is there bread and butter . Even highley rated bands like Queen ( the newly formed Queen with remaining members) operate on the same principles . Green day is trash now , but they know they will always have fans. American idiot was a decent album . But it's very dated music I agree . To give Billy Joe Armstrong his credit tho he was a pretty good songwriter, listen to songs like "she" . Especially since most of his hits were written when he was under 25
He also plays 3 power chords the entire song in she
Queen without freddie mercury is a cash grab pure and simple
Ker Plunk
I Actually LOVE GREENDAY and I have for years
weak
cringe
@@msgesus4518 idc I am seeing them live twice this month
@@gerardway4562 lololol
@@gerardway4562 you do you boo
Green Day sucks so bad, that I would rather sit for 24 hours listening to cats and dogs taking a shit than hear one more Green day song.
@super shy guy Cole too hell with you.
@@seanboland2162 wth, no u. Have any of you who hate Green Day even HEARD "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" or "21 Guns"!?
Yea i have, both cheesy, shitty and annoying^
If Billie Joe's fake accent bugs you guys, you REALLY need to do an episode on Rancid! Depending on the song, Tim Armstrong either sounds like a Brooklyn hardass or a Cockney punker (neither; he's from fucking California). I like Rancid a lot but I'd love to hear you roast them.
Also AFI, who I fucking love, but who in recent years have just turned into a Smiths tribute act with a less obnoxious vegan frontman. Thank you please.
you listen to afi lmao what’s wrong with you
lol i was going to comment on this stupid post about how afi is so shit but looks like i already beat myself to it
My brother used to work at a Tower Records for roughly a month way back in the late 90’s, and in that short period of time, he got to meet Davey Havok (lead singer of AFI).
I asked my brother how it went, and this is what he told me. “I went to shake his hand, and all he gave me was this limp wristed, faggy movement, where he just placed his hand on top of mine…as if he was waiting for me to kiss it or something.” LOL!!!
I will say that the album “Black Sails on the Sunset” is one of my favorite punk themed records of all time.
@@DazeyChaineMusic Says the person with an Oasis playlist.
Greendays first 4 major albums were great. They had personality, unlike bands nowadays. People who hate on greenday, hows your band doing??
😂
Regretfully this came out before Father of all... because I am as sure as the day is long that the rant that blasphemous abomination would have sparked between you guys would have been the stuff poets hundred of years from now would have spoken about.
I agree with you saying the stooges and new York dolls are the first punk bands I think raw power is the first punk album
I got a right was the punk song
The first girl I ever loved was obsessed with Green Day. Needless to say, it didn't work out. The band fucking sucks.
Green Day is not bad. It is simple music done well. This is why cookie cutter bands fall short of them.
Same thing goes to AC/DC really.
Nobody cared about Bad Religion back in the day. So many of these bands have more cred now than they ever had back then. Younger people just like them cause they are from that era.
Green Day is fun. Therefore I like it 🤷
This episode aged like a fine wine after whatever the fuck Green Day's done as of late. The longer their together the more damage they do to a genre they godfathered.
Green day used to be an amazing band, and one of my favorites. They are absolute trash now, but I will always remember Jesus of Suburbia and Good Riddance.
@Taylor Faulkner Nah Green Day used to make bangers.
Dookie and Nimrod are good albums.
I liked Green Day as a kid as they were one of my first rock bands, but I quickly lost interest due to how normie they are
Green days so dam good
no
no, they are dog shit
I was 12 when Dookie came out. I loved that and the first few albums before that, then I turned 14. Nope, just got worse and worse with every release afterward. At least on the first 2 releases they tried. Found commercial with Dookie and have tried so hard to stay radio relevant since then that it’s just pathetic
They have at least 5 or 4 good songs every album after dookie but after the trilogy
*read more*
UNO DOS TRE are so horrible.
You wouldn't even know it was Green day if the album covers didn't tell us
I still like Dookie, and am lukewarm on Nimrod, but goddamn when I heard grenade-album, I realized I was over that band. Worth noting, I was still a teenager when I heard that.
Also, on both albums, I can’t believe the singles.
@@zackspiker_ The lyrics went down hill and sound became generic once they became ultra political. Dookie is overrated, Insomniac was their best album, Nimrod was decent and Waiting was good enough. American Idiot sounded more generic and it affected 90% of their releases after it. That album was ok for what it was at the time. White Stripes were also always shit. A lot of bands weren't very good.
@@jangoescoricky9393 fam white stripes are better than green day.
@@gereniccc4487 white stripes are definitely better
Dookie and Nimrod are good albums by Green Day. American Idiot is decent, can’t believe that a Broadway musical got made out of it.
I was a teen in the 1990s, & I vividly remember the moment I lost intetest in this band. I was in college, Warning came out, I bought it then after a few songs I thought "this is a weak watered down version of Dookie. Meh. Well THAT wont happen again.." then, few years later Nimrod came out, I bought it, after a few songs I said "FUCK, they did it again😑!!!!" Havent bought their albums since then. When I heard Nirmrod I realized they are the McDonalds of punk rock.
Same, haven’t listened to Green Day like that in years 🫤
(for the record, _Nimrod_ was released before _Warning,_ not after)
@@Ronnie.Raymondooops I forgot haha my mistake.
@@claudiasolomon1123listen to american idiot (if you want, the entire album), cuz that song aged like fine wine
This will keep aging like fine wine lmao
Nah because I love this band 😭
HEY I WAS WITH YOU BACK AT NIVERNA. TALKING SHIT ABOUT GREEN DAY IS SUICIDAL
Dookie is a great album (Tre Cool was a badass drummer back then) but let's face it, they should've retired 25 years ago, pre-American Idiot.
Greenday is not the Network, duh
Hey they are a pretty ok band but god 13 year olds think Billie is a virtuoso
I love old green day stuff from 1991-2000, I mostly hate all of the popular green day songs, i hate all of the American idiot songs except for governator and I love the underrated stuff from 1991-2000 the most.
Fan of bay area punk for decades. Have always thought green day was a pile of shit.
All I know is that I don't know nothin' lol
In short Green Day is the Kraft singles of “punk”
Green Day= hit me with your best shot + Boston....
You could throw in: love is a battle field + One Way Or Another
Mainly Pat Benatar + Tom Sholz "Rockman" (LOL precanned guitar tone
This had to be the easiest episode to write. I can't think of a worse popular band
I loved green day in high school,they are annoying
Bad Religion definitely wrote some shit songs, and even the WORST Bad Religion song is 100% better than any green day song
Green Day has been my favorite band but lately I’m not feeling it anymore.
From a green day fan, I agree billy joe not good at live, and I also dont like his political veiws, and their new stuff is not that good. But im still a fan because nimrod sounds good, but thats just my opinion.
Nimrod and Dookie are solid albums.
Green Day are great Live, sounds exactly like the album, weird comment
Ooooooooh so much hate. They are my favourite band. They have brought me so much joy throughout my life. This made me so sad to hear.
Lmao, about the Fuck Time argument: On Kerplunk- their secong album- they have the song "Dominated Love Slave" written by Tre Cool which is a self explanatory filler track literally put to a country instrumental with Tre putting on a Southern accent. That's the 6th track on the album. They got it right the first time but couldn't do it right 20 years later. After Green Day's gimmick stops being them being stupid kids making catchy music, I really start loosing interest, honestly
I never understand the words to the song
Stupids will not understand
that's pre-AI green day
12:25 mike was just being funny and that’s like the funniest part of the vid. I hate these podcasts and they are toxic to great bands. Like how could you say Led Zeppelin is a bad band you don’t have to like them but they are still a great band along with a ton of other people you guys say suck
Did you watch their led Zeppelin episode? They basically said that "this is the best rock and roll can do as a genre but it doesn't mean they can't suck" take what you will from that
I used to be a big fan of them when I was 12 and arguably didn't know any better, or anything else for that matter. Lately I relish in people dragging them, even though they're honestly one of the easiest bands in the world to mock. You guys nailed it with this one.
what makes green day so easy to mock as opposed to other bands
@@ethanloginov5947 they’re mediocre and overhyped AF, also Billie Joe is an arrogant, minimally talented asshole who thinks way too highly of himself
This was a great listen. I remember fawning over them and listening to most of their discography up until 21st CB, as I never really found myself interested with their later albums. I watched "funny moments" compilations and always thought I wanted to be a rockstar like them, someday.
Of course, after months of listening exclusively to them almost non-stop, I got bored and ventured out for greener pasture. I dipped my toes into other artists and bands. I never really had another "favorite band" after GD again, because I realized I would fall into the same pattern of infatuation and disillusion. And that's where I stand today...
It was nice to look at a band I once unconditionally admired with a new set of eyes. I don't have much clue about how and whatever's going on in politics, so I never found myself really siding with Billie's ideals and chants of "No Trump", all that crap. I also hate the debate of whether or not a band is truly "punk" and has "sold out", so I was glad I'm not alone in sharing that sentiment. I think the idea of being a "punk" or embodying it is gimmicky, edgy, and stupid. I simply looked at GD as a "rock band", nothing more or less.
One thing I was not ready to learn was the fact that they had plagiarized many songs from other artists. I thought it was only few and between, like Warning and Broken Dreams. So yeah...that was quite something.
I like greenday.
Have you two ever heard of a band called "Unwritten Law" and if so, do you think they're better than Green Day? I'm just curious what you'd say.
I was like fuck this at first, not gonna change my mind at green day but I damn near busted a gut at what are you mad about? Has me wanting to check out more of your stuff XD
Green Day is awesome, but so is hearing someone who in elementary school sat with his friends to see who could sing like "Billie Joe the best." and also felt like if you wanted to kiss a girl, you had to have a Billie Joe impression, shit all over them on a podcast. This is fun.
a whole half hour and almost no actual points were made about their music all you did was insult superfluous shit that has nothing to do with the quality of their songs. Also, American Idiot isn't all that politically charged but you conveniently gave no mention to 21st Century Breakdown which is an overtly politically charged album
Cry
have fun getting blocked on twitter
I love Green Day, but Father Of All... sucks so bad.
The father of all song sounds like feeling still by Portugal the man holy shit.
@@aandwdabest 😭
Greenday is the greatest
I love you guys for this vid
Can’t tell if this is real or is it a joke.
i feel like all their episodes are satire lol
@@kishwarhasin803 I like Green Day and I don’t care what people say about me or them but this just seems too pushed. Like the stuff they say about them seems like there trying to much to say bad things about them. Idk
we never joke
@@YourFavoriteBandSucksPodcast that must suck not joking cause you think it would make you look lame. Also can’t tell if this was a sarcastic reply?
@@prouncecat7119 well, it is called "Your Band Sucks"... I doubt they'll be praising them throughout
i heard fuck time for the first time and i honestly like it. i can't forgive how they treat others though, so i'm not stupid. but there are a lot of personally unlikable musicians just like this who happen to make good music. Mozart was a fucking brat but i don't hear the music world complain about him. (probly cause he's dead). basically yes i still like their music, and that's by choice. i probly won't be going to concerts or buy albums cause i never did anyway from not having money as a kid. that's what free download converters are for.
edit: sucks that they stole shit but honestly i still like those songs anyway and didn't even know they were similar to other songs. i still don't think their music's shitty overall and i'm an outcast with alota thing in life
Honestly, I really enjoy their discography from their debut to about 2004. I feel like as a pop punk band, their music isn’t the worst and it’s not really bad enough to skip past if it shows up on Pandora or my Spotify shuffle.
I feel like Jimmy Eat World faced a similar problem, but they avoided it by “growing up” with their audience. Bleed American and Futures were standard fare pop punk albums but their later albums don’t really stick to that ear friendly music which made them famous. The same applies to Hawthorne Heights after Casey Calvert died.
I remember when Green Day first record came out. I was bored to tears. Another cliche' band with no soul and I can't remember one song, just like so many bands
Would've been more satisfying if y'all did this in time for whatever the hell their 2020 album was, but this was actually very well made. damn.
Wait, is Greenday even actually anybody's favorite band?
Finally a band I don’t like good stuff
They're corny
Your tour thing sounds wrong. In any case, they later asked BR to open for them, but they'd already booked their own tour.
I’m 24 I’ve lived greenday since day one
Fuck you I love greenday!
My favorite song is “Oh love” because it proves all along he could have don’t pop and radio hits by hitting 1 high note and chose this style. They did what they wanted and love what they do and fight for the underdog, that’s exactly why they’re a great band and should not get near the hate nickelback does and currently in 2023 it’s close.
I will always defend this bad till I freaking drop and will die with a greenday heart grande tattoo
Side note I know music my dads a dj who toured with Aaron carter.
I love who I love 🤷♂️
@@KARTOONZpdx Nickelback > Green Day 😁